What would YOU do with K♥ J♥ on the turn? Your Stack (SB): 62,000 Their Stack (HJ): 62,000 Pot: 41,200 Board: T♥ 7♦ 5♥ J♦ A) Check B) Bet 10,000 (small) C) Bet 20,000 (medium) D) Bet 62,000 (all in)
I think with thin value + draw, you have to bet. Can get called by T or 7, can spike a heart, can deny equity to As and Qs. How much do I bet? Uhhh, I’m not sure. I’m torn between small (because the value is thin), and big (it’s a draw). Let’s say medium, then. But honestly, I found this one to be a bit awkward.
I would choose B. I want to do a C bet of 20k because we have top pair and we have second nut flush draw (also a diamond draw bluff possibility). Therefore it is a great opportunity to get value out of the other players. The odds are in your favor unless someone has a set or two pair laying around. That's why I would not go all in. Lastly I believe that if you small bet, most players wouldn't fold therefore it gives a chance for players to get lucky on the river.
I like betting small or checking and calling. Betting Large prices out most of the middle/ top pair hands that Faraz is ahead of and only leaves his opponent calling with strong made hands. I think checking is only a good choice if you believe your opponent will bet. Betting 15k probably would’ve been my move. Great video!
The bubble spot Faraz described is precisely why shot clocks should exist. The shortstacks don't have to worry about outstalling each other and the other players don't have to watch paint dry.
This guy talking about stalling every hand you could tell Jonathan didn't really agree with him same dude who coached Robbie with her Jack 4 hand 🤔 makes sense LOL
hi its feburary 2024 - whos watching in 2021? Cashing is pretty important to your bankroll maintenance and you're gunna play the bubble a lot more often than the final table. Also if you have 108 paying and you're a short stack punting on the stone bubble to "play for the win" is pretty stupid cause you're so far from the final table anyway. Ideally you'll not be a short stack on the bubble but sometimes poker happens and you gotta make the best of it.
No one is cool with you stalling 30 seconds every hand. They are just being polite. Also blinding down to 1 bb for a min cash can´t be good strategy. A 1 hour stall for min cash, plz kill me. And actually charging 40$ for him seeing your hand is a douchy move.
The mistake is already done, so all in try to take it down right there, if the guy don’t fold then we have the heart to back you up, looks like he has like 99
Bet small. 13k. The nemesis smooth-called, TWICE, preflop. This is SO weighted towards pocket-pairs, he is basically wearing a sign that says, "I have 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, or 9's!" A check is ridiculous because you have top pair, and the flush redraw. So, on the OFF CHANCE he is slowing playing a set, you still have outs. A big bet is ridiculous because it's going to fold out the portion of his range you're beating with top pair. The ONLY TIME I'D CHECK in that spot is if my opponent is HYPER aggressive and is floating at too high of a frequency. In that case, I'll either go for the check-raise, or check-call, check river to reraise.
At 15:30 Faraz talks about it being less likely that his opponent has a flush draw ... but then he says he thinks it's more likely the opponent has a T or 88, etc. ... but there are 9 hearts remaining and only 3 tens remaining. i get that overall opponent may be more likely to have a marginal made hand than a flush draw, but it seems like he's 3x more likely to have a flush draw than a T. If I'm calculating the odds correctly.
You must look at the actual hand combinations that make sense to calculate the odds. 3 tens left ... but what hands can they form? AT... in 4x3 combinations for example or T9 in 3x4 combinations. Then look at suited heart hands like AhQh that make sense for you... does he play 9h 2h ? No. So it is not so easy as to just say there are 9x8 flush draws possible. Each suited hand is one combination
@soundofsilence21 well I guess this is not the optimal place to ask about odds calc and stuff. Comments will get sorted and have less views over time etc.- maybe a forum or poker discord server makes more sense for such questions
I think checking the turn is good. It controls the pot (and the players only have about a pot sized bet left), and it may induce bluffs or incorrect value bets from tens, pocket 9s, sometimes even 7s.
This is like one of the best flops, and certainly best run outs , you could hope for when squeezing with a marginal hand like this. Far more often, you squeeze, get called, and whiff. Going over the scenarios to C-bet, or check/call or check/raisebluff would have been a bit more helpful.
It’s cool to learn from players who are better than me. Also, I think it’s the first step to becoming a better player in admitting that there are players that are better than you.
It’s pretty gross the way you guys were laughing it up and cracking jokes about the biggest problem with live poker. Cool that you min-cashed, but way to be part of the problem.😡
Games have rules. Some rules are not implemented well. If your goal is to win, you are incentivized to do whatever is allowed within the rules in order to win. Fwiw, REALLY abusing the rules is the best way to get the rules to be changed. If you look at most other "newer" games with more changeable rules, whenever something is clearly broken, it is changed. Poker could easily do the same thing. I personally liked the "play one orbit" rule on the bubble, but it was likely too difficult for tournament staff to keep track of and it convoluted the payouts a bit. It was a step in the right direction IMO. Personally, I think everyone should have a 10 second shot clock for every decision with something like 20 15 second time extensions per day. That said, I don't make the rules.
@@PokerCoaching everything you wrote is completely true. However my point has to do with 2 respected pros, who in many ways are ambassadors of the game teaching beginners bad habits because it provides a few extra dollars of EV. I myself am a recreational player, but you would never find me stalling on a bubble. I have too much respect for the game, my opponents’ time, but most importantly myself. Just because you find a loophole in a rule doesn’t mean you have to exploit it. Stalling has a negative impact on the game overall, and I would think someone as experienced and respected as you would want to do something to make it better, rather than yuk it up and make stalling the punchline of a bad inside joke.
I’m betting big on the turn and preferably end it on the turn. This would accomplish several things at once. It would protect top pair, create equity for my possible flush on the river, charge for his flush draw, and force him to get it all in on the turn.
I agree. But I don’t play against the players with this skill level. I just see so many scare cards. Heck even a King on the river and I like my hand less than I did on the turn. Especially if it’s a diamond. I figure I’m going all the way with this hand so I’d rather get it in and be the aggressor, unless I picked up something from the opponent that caused me to think I might not be good.
I'm happy to just keep betting each street here, all the time my hand improves, something like third, half, or two thirds pot, mixing it up so I don't get too predictable. The turn gives us top pair, so there is motivation to keep betting. I'm trying to keep control of the betting/pot size and when I feel the villain has taken control of the pot considering folding, but this is obviously harder against better players. I very rarely go all-in, as I would rather give my opponent something to think about, but am trying to see more all-in spots so that I remain balanced, as you are giving away equity if your opponent knows you always have when you are all-in.
I think both checking and jamming are fine. By checking we can realize our equity very well by check calling any bet which is good for this particular hand. Jamming is good because if our range is already slightly polarized the optimal bet size with the range we have is all in. What I would do here is very opponent specific as i would be less likely to jam against someone who is playing far from GTO because they would not call off anywhere close to enough in most circumstances.
The small SPR makes me want to check because I feel like we don't want to get raise shoved on and be forced to call it off, my only worry is it potentially makes the river harder to play than betting small would as we are potentially giving up the betting lead. I normally would want to bet here though, as so many worse hands can call.
I would pile it in on that turn card because any other sizing would leave a position where you could have to call off when you have a good idea you are beat most times.
I’d roll my dice, if a 2 or 5 showed up, I would bet 20000, with the intent to shove most rivers that aren’t a diamond, , if a 6 showed up, I would just max out my aggression and shove, which isn’t that bad, the pot is big enough that taking it down now is fine, If any of the remaining numbers showed up, I would check with the intent to shove if bet into , as well as call his jam if he made it,
Listening to Jaka's thoughts on bubble play and stalling is a far cry from my early days on the live circuit, some twenty years ago, when the mentality was to go for the win, with something of a stigma attached to min-cashing.
I’ve already taken control of the pot. Why give it away when my hand improves? I’d bet 2/3 - 3/4 pot. Hopefully taken it down there. If not there are lots of cards that improve my hand better.
Idk I'd prefer to explore the check option... not because I'm afraid to bet/get in KJhh, but moreover because I am afraid to bet/get it in with QQ KK AA. I feel like this card favors the opponent so we should be checking. With that said I am tempted to check jam this particular holding along with KQhh and sets... yes of course we risk running into 89, but we have equity with all those hands, and the 89 is only something opponent can have, he may choose to start betting some of his pair/SD combos or continue with pair Diamond combos and we can stack him on those spots.... and if we have our overpair range we can pot control and not be completley linearly strong by adding in some AK AQ FD turn check/calls as well.
Ok I say bet medium. If you bet large you only get called when dominated. Bet 20k because most hands that call 10k(1/5 pot odds) will call 20k(1/3 pot odds), and we earn twice as much on wins from the bet. The ability for the heart to come in, and top pair itself, also adds a ton of value against *ALL* calling hands for a larger pot size(60k vs 80k) going into the last street of betting. Checking is only banking on them bluffing with whatever they wouldn’t have called your bet with, because another check is a disaster. At this point it seems like it’s more likely that they’d call the bet than bluff the check, so we should give them the best chance to give us their money in this situation. Probably wrong tho
I think I want to check call. I now have some showdown value and want to get there cheap. If he bets, say half pot, I can call with my draw. Then I am set up for a shove on the river.
Ok so if we think about making a better hand fold or a worse hand call. I can’t see worse hand calling in this spot. I also don’t see a better hand folding other than AK off or AQ off. I would dismiss AQ because of the preflop action. Now I understand AK has to fold to a 2/3 bet on the flop unless it’s a suited AK or the naked ace of hearts. Checking the flop is the best option here I think. Original raiser also has a player behind so that’s gonna reveal his hand strength when he acts.
Trying to figure out what villian had that would call 4 times, only to fold in the river. He obviously put hero on flush draw... So perhaps villian started with mid pocket pr?
i've seen somebody pull that freeroll before back when i was playing free bar leagues, the old "i'm going all in 1st hand" then wait for huge hand, if he got it BAM moves in, if not "i was just kidding". of course i've also seen just psychos do that and mean it too regardless of hand strength.
You can see the anger building in JL when he is talking about stalling. JL doesn’t believe in min cashing. He’s there to win or go home. I’ve come to learn that Faraz Jaka’s method here is better when you are short stacked and know a deep run isn’t possible every tourney.
Check for pot control with the plan of check calling about a 10k bet knowing my riveted flush which is 20% is only beat by exactly A5s so the riveted flush will be the nuts almost always. Plus we will be good with turned trips and two pair so we have decent equity when check calling this turn.
I think I am checking.... Not going too fold,too induce. But now that I have showdown, I feel like we don't need to bloat the pot any more.... I don't know
Life is easy when you hit the river. I am not sure if you said what our villain had, but my guess was a set and he knew you were waiting for the flush. You miss the river, your tournament is almost over. But in tournaments you have to play loose in the beginning. So well played, but also kinda lucky
I think this is a solid hand I wanna bet for 2 streets with a good river, so im gonna use geometric sizing- half pot turn and half pot river= 20k turn and 40k river C) 20k
bet middle to deny equity to a flush draw and to see where I am out in the hand. even if I had a good read on the person I would never check in this situation because they may hit that on out they need
I have usually played smaller stakes and recently played in a $2500 buy in tourney. I noticed that the good players will definitely be aware of how important the min cash is to you it really changes everything. I was constantly facing aggression it seemed like, which was exactly what they should have been doing. So I think what you said is true especially with your image to the good players
I never believe anybody who says they are going all in before any cards are dealt because it is an obvious ploy to stack somebody with an unlikely QQ+ and AK
Ide bet big hoping to get callers trying to hit the flush draw. I feel the big 3 bet raise made the pot big enough that even if players fold you get a good stack. As long as a diamond or Ace don't hit the board I should be in the money.
Rip that sucker all in vs a non professional and let them call with whatever they have. No way we're ever folding and I don't think checking will induce them too often.
John I have a question, I see you almost om mtt exploiting the hands. Do you believe sit&Go heads up hypers between €100 and €300 are still relevant? Or is cash game then better like 5-10? I struggle with the exploiment of the hyper games to get an extra edge with gto because it are short games. Can you give me some advice please hoe you think about these games?
The problem with shot clocks is that there is no marginal incentive. If I were managing a tournament, I'd give people N seconds to make a decision (N ~= 30), but then they would be able to bank some fraction of the seconds that they didn't use. They can't bank all of them, or you really don't change anything, but by allowing them to bank some of the time, you create marginal incentives to not use all the time allocated to you. The other neat thing is that you can start to adjust the fraction of unused time that is returned to your bank, depending on how players respond to the incentives.
I think we should distinguish between bluffing and lying. Bluffing is betting with the intent to get someone to fold a better hand. Lying is verbal, and not a necessary part of poker. If you lie at a poker table it's still lying. It's not a bluff. You can only bluff with your chips, you can only lie with language. They are not the same.
Thank you Jonathan and Toilet! *Side-Note* When you need to use the Jon you just gotta use the Toilet. Sorry just had to say that it is too perfect 🤣 Like if you get this joke.
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What would YOU do with K♥ J♥ on the turn?
Your Stack (SB): 62,000
Their Stack (HJ): 62,000
Pot: 41,200
Board: T♥ 7♦ 5♥ J♦
A) Check
B) Bet 10,000 (small)
C) Bet 20,000 (medium)
D) Bet 62,000 (all in)
I think with thin value + draw, you have to bet. Can get called by T or 7, can spike a heart, can deny equity to As and Qs. How much do I bet? Uhhh, I’m not sure. I’m torn between small (because the value is thin), and big (it’s a draw). Let’s say medium, then. But honestly, I found this one to be a bit awkward.
Check call seems good. You don’t fold out better and I don’t think you get much value from worse. We’re not strong enough to go 3 streets.
Bet small
I would choose B. I want to do a C bet of 20k because we have top pair and we have second nut flush draw (also a diamond draw bluff possibility). Therefore it is a great opportunity to get value out of the other players. The odds are in your favor unless someone has a set or two pair laying around. That's why I would not go all in. Lastly I believe that if you small bet, most players wouldn't fold therefore it gives a chance for players to get lucky on the river.
I like betting small or checking and calling. Betting Large prices out most of the middle/ top pair hands that Faraz is ahead of and only leaves his opponent calling with strong made hands. I think checking is only a good choice if you believe your opponent will bet. Betting 15k probably would’ve been my move. Great video!
The bubble spot Faraz described is precisely why shot clocks should exist. The shortstacks don't have to worry about outstalling each other and the other players don't have to watch paint dry.
Still works out the same. Shot clocks in poker are typically 30 seconds any because that's reasonable time
That's why some poker rooms have a hand for hand rule on the bubble
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Thats exactly why he said he will be taking 30 seconds, that is what most shot clocks in poker are set to.
Faraz keeps you entertained as he explains and you never loose focus. Mr. Little you need to get him back. Good job both of you.
This guy talking about stalling every hand you could tell Jonathan didn't really agree with him same dude who coached Robbie with her Jack 4 hand 🤔 makes sense LOL
hi its feburary 2024 - whos watching in 2021? Cashing is pretty important to your bankroll maintenance and you're gunna play the bubble a lot more often than the final table. Also if you have 108 paying and you're a short stack punting on the stone bubble to "play for the win" is pretty stupid cause you're so far from the final table anyway. Ideally you'll not be a short stack on the bubble but sometimes poker happens and you gotta make the best of it.
I think the important lesson here is “20 dollars a card, and I only take cash”
No one is cool with you stalling 30 seconds every hand. They are just being polite. Also blinding down to 1 bb for a min cash can´t be good strategy. A 1 hour stall for min cash, plz kill me. And actually charging 40$ for him seeing your hand is a douchy move.
The mistake is already done, so all in try to take it down right there, if the guy don’t fold then we have the heart to back you up, looks like he has like 99
Bet small. 13k. The nemesis smooth-called, TWICE, preflop.
This is SO weighted towards pocket-pairs, he is basically wearing a sign that says, "I have 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, or 9's!"
A check is ridiculous because you have top pair, and the flush redraw. So, on the OFF CHANCE he is slowing playing a set, you still have outs.
A big bet is ridiculous because it's going to fold out the portion of his range you're beating with top pair.
The ONLY TIME I'D CHECK in that spot is if my opponent is HYPER aggressive and is floating at too high of a frequency.
In that case, I'll either go for the check-raise, or check-call, check river to reraise.
At 15:30 Faraz talks about it being less likely that his opponent has a flush draw ... but then he says he thinks it's more likely the opponent has a T or 88, etc. ... but there are 9 hearts remaining and only 3 tens remaining. i get that overall opponent may be more likely to have a marginal made hand than a flush draw, but it seems like he's 3x more likely to have a flush draw than a T. If I'm calculating the odds correctly.
You must look at the actual hand combinations that make sense to calculate the odds.
3 tens left ... but what hands can they form? AT... in 4x3 combinations for example or T9 in 3x4 combinations. Then look at suited heart hands like AhQh that make sense for you... does he play 9h 2h ? No. So it is not so easy as to just say there are 9x8 flush draws possible. Each suited hand is one combination
@@NeuroticNOOB a year later I get a reply that actually makes perfect sense, thank you!
@soundofsilence21 well I guess this is not the optimal place to ask about odds calc and stuff. Comments will get sorted and have less views over time etc.- maybe a forum or poker discord server makes more sense for such questions
"I stalled for 30 seconds hahaha"
world class poker content this channel is.......
Amateurs see small bet as weak and are going to shove or continue more often. Esp on a draw heavy board.
I think checking the turn is good. It controls the pot (and the players only have about a pot sized bet left), and it may induce bluffs or incorrect value bets from tens, pocket 9s, sometimes even 7s.
Exactly. Betting is kind of dumb.
Faraz talking about stalling an hour from the cash every hand... what a total tool
Hope someone finds this video feb of 2024 and gets spooked
I'll probably be rewatching in '24 after all , it's only 2 years away.
Stalling action should result in a backoff the same way card counting does.
And this guy is stalling an hour before? I doubt his table was happy with that
Bet 20k. Happy with the board - apart from diamond draw - but overall I have enough outs to make the HJ nervous if they are chasing
Nobody gonna acknowledge Farazs hair?
Shove. I would assume pocket 7’s he couldn’t let go of.
bet 20k on turn with flush draw, jam without, imho
This is like one of the best flops, and certainly best run outs , you could hope for when squeezing with a marginal hand like this. Far more often, you squeeze, get called, and whiff. Going over the scenarios to C-bet, or check/call or check/raisebluff would have been a bit more helpful.
Yeah although these videos are great I do feel like we more often see favourable runouts!
It’s cool to learn from players who are better than me. Also, I think it’s the first step to becoming a better player in admitting that there are players that are better than you.
It’s pretty gross the way you guys were laughing it up and cracking jokes about the biggest problem with live poker. Cool that you min-cashed, but way to be part of the problem.😡
Games have rules. Some rules are not implemented well. If your goal is to win, you are incentivized to do whatever is allowed within the rules in order to win. Fwiw, REALLY abusing the rules is the best way to get the rules to be changed. If you look at most other "newer" games with more changeable rules, whenever something is clearly broken, it is changed. Poker could easily do the same thing. I personally liked the "play one orbit" rule on the bubble, but it was likely too difficult for tournament staff to keep track of and it convoluted the payouts a bit. It was a step in the right direction IMO. Personally, I think everyone should have a 10 second shot clock for every decision with something like 20 15 second time extensions per day. That said, I don't make the rules.
@@PokerCoaching everything you wrote is completely true. However my point has to do with 2 respected pros, who in many ways are ambassadors of the game teaching beginners bad habits because it provides a few extra dollars of EV. I myself am a recreational player, but you would never find me stalling on a bubble. I have too much respect for the game, my opponents’ time, but most importantly myself. Just because you find a loophole in a rule doesn’t mean you have to exploit it. Stalling has a negative impact on the game overall, and I would think someone as experienced and respected as you would want to do something to make it better, rather than yuk it up and make stalling the punchline of a bad inside joke.
I’m betting big on the turn and preferably end it on the turn. This would accomplish several things at once. It would protect top pair, create equity for my possible flush on the river, charge for his flush draw, and force him to get it all in on the turn.
I agree. But I don’t play against the players with this skill level. I just see so many scare cards. Heck even a King on the river and I like my hand less than I did on the turn. Especially if it’s a diamond. I figure I’m going all the way with this hand so I’d rather get it in and be the aggressor, unless I picked up something from the opponent that caused me to think I might not be good.
I'm happy to just keep betting each street here, all the time my hand improves, something like third, half, or two thirds pot, mixing it up so I don't get too predictable. The turn gives us top pair, so there is motivation to keep betting. I'm trying to keep control of the betting/pot size and when I feel the villain has taken control of the pot considering folding, but this is obviously harder against better players. I very rarely go all-in, as I would rather give my opponent something to think about, but am trying to see more all-in spots so that I remain balanced, as you are giving away equity if your opponent knows you always have when you are all-in.
I think both checking and jamming are fine. By checking we can realize our equity very well by check calling any bet which is good for this particular hand. Jamming is good because if our range is already slightly polarized the optimal bet size with the range we have is all in. What I would do here is very opponent specific as i would be less likely to jam against someone who is playing far from GTO because they would not call off anywhere close to enough in most circumstances.
" im gonna go all in the firts hand " angle shooting ??
The small SPR makes me want to check because I feel like we don't want to get raise shoved on and be forced to call it off, my only worry is it potentially makes the river harder to play than betting small would as we are potentially giving up the betting lead.
I normally would want to bet here though, as so many worse hands can call.
Isn't this the dude they called "the toilet?"
I would pile it in on that turn card because any other sizing would leave a position where you could have to call off when you have a good idea you are beat most times.
Bet small on the turn, and check river.
I’d roll my dice, if a 2 or 5 showed up, I would bet 20000, with the intent to shove most rivers that aren’t a diamond, , if a 6 showed up, I would just max out my aggression and shove, which isn’t that bad, the pot is big enough that taking it down now is fine, If any of the remaining numbers showed up, I would check with the intent to shove if bet into , as well as call his jam if he made it,
Listening to Jaka's thoughts on bubble play and stalling is a far cry from my early days on the live circuit, some twenty years ago, when the mentality was to go for the win, with something of a stigma attached to min-cashing.
I’ve already taken control of the pot. Why give it away when my hand improves? I’d bet 2/3 - 3/4 pot. Hopefully taken it down there. If not there are lots of cards that improve my hand better.
Idk I'd prefer to explore the check option... not because I'm afraid to bet/get in KJhh, but moreover because I am afraid to bet/get it in with QQ KK AA.
I feel like this card favors the opponent so we should be checking.
With that said I am tempted to check jam this particular holding along with KQhh and sets... yes of course we risk running into 89, but we have equity with all those hands, and the 89 is only something opponent can have, he may choose to start betting some of his pair/SD combos or continue with pair Diamond combos and we can stack him on those spots.... and if we have our overpair range we can pot control and not be completley linearly strong by adding in some AK AQ FD turn check/calls as well.
What would Faraz do if the river is a 7h...?
Faraz must of lost a bet for that haircut
25k
Ok I say bet medium. If you bet large you only get called when dominated. Bet 20k because most hands that call 10k(1/5 pot odds) will call 20k(1/3 pot odds), and we earn twice as much on wins from the bet. The ability for the heart to come in, and top pair itself, also adds a ton of value against *ALL* calling hands for a larger pot size(60k vs 80k) going into the last street of betting.
Checking is only banking on them bluffing with whatever they wouldn’t have called your bet with, because another check is a disaster. At this point it seems like it’s more likely that they’d call the bet than bluff the check, so we should give them the best chance to give us their money in this situation.
Probably wrong tho
Very good content! Love those videos and learning a lot from them. Both entertaining and educational.
Glad you like them!
I think I want to check call. I now have some showdown value and want to get there cheap. If he bets, say half pot, I can call with my draw. Then I am set up for a shove on the river.
Johnathan, can i beat the small stakes if i JUST BUY "Excelling at No-Limit Hold’em" by itself?
No, you have to study.
@@PokerCoaching I meant study the book, sorry
Ok so if we think about making a better hand fold or a worse hand call. I can’t see worse hand calling in this spot. I also don’t see a better hand folding other than AK off or AQ off. I would dismiss AQ because of the preflop action. Now I understand AK has to fold to a 2/3 bet on the flop unless it’s a suited AK or the naked ace of hearts. Checking the flop is the best option here I think. Original raiser also has a player behind so that’s gonna reveal his hand strength when he acts.
well 40 bucks is a REALLY MIN "min cash" when compared to 10000 of course (plus whatever rake they take)
Trying to figure out what villian had that would call 4 times, only to fold in the river. He obviously put hero on flush draw... So perhaps villian started with mid pocket pr?
i've seen somebody pull that freeroll before back when i was playing free bar leagues, the old "i'm going all in 1st hand" then wait for huge hand, if he got it BAM moves in, if not "i was just kidding". of course i've also seen just psychos do that and mean it too regardless of hand strength.
You can see the anger building in JL when he is talking about stalling. JL doesn’t believe in min cashing. He’s there to win or go home. I’ve come to learn that Faraz Jaka’s method here is better when you are short stacked and know a deep run isn’t possible every tourney.
Check call
Check for pot control with the plan of check calling about a 10k bet knowing my riveted flush which is 20% is only beat by exactly A5s so the riveted flush will be the nuts almost always. Plus we will be good with turned trips and two pair so we have decent equity when check calling this turn.
River you can possibly induce with like a 5000 bet… depends on who the opponent is though
I think I am checking.... Not going too fold,too induce. But now that I have showdown, I feel like we don't need to bloat the pot any more.... I don't know
Life is easy when you hit the river. I am not sure if you said what our villain had, but my guess was a set and he knew you were waiting for the flush. You miss the river, your tournament is almost over. But in tournaments you have to play loose in the beginning. So well played, but also kinda lucky
Half your stack
I think this is a solid hand I wanna bet for 2 streets with a good river, so im gonna use geometric sizing- half pot turn and half pot river= 20k turn and 40k river
C) 20k
Same guy who coached Robbie and she called All In with Jack four LOLOL
bet middle to deny equity to a flush draw and to see where I am out in the hand. even if I had a good read on the person I would never check in this situation because they may hit that on out they need
I would check to see where I'm at because I'm not folding with that draw
we are betting for value on the turn, 20k sounds good, lots of worse hands will call.
The look at Faraz's hair @0:15 haha
I am beginning to think the best poker player's are able to take such risks and aggressive moves as they seem to have better outcomes.
Those are at least the ones that are the most visible.
I have usually played smaller stakes and recently played in a $2500 buy in tourney. I noticed that the good players will definitely be aware of how important the min cash is to you it really changes everything. I was constantly facing aggression it seemed like, which was exactly what they should have been doing. So I think what you said is true especially with your image to the good players
I never believe anybody who says they are going all in before any cards are dealt because it is an obvious ploy to stack somebody with an unlikely QQ+ and AK
is there anything to stack to pot ratio in cash?
Yes.
bet small 10k
Ide bet big hoping to get callers trying to hit the flush draw. I feel the big 3 bet raise made the pot big enough that even if players fold you get a good stack. As long as a diamond or Ace don't hit the board I should be in the money.
bet half pot.
Bet moderate.
BB = 600, Pot = 1500 and this program says that is 3 BBs. Odd.
I would bet 20k. If the other player has AJ and pushes, I may fold but probably not.
Bet small??
Bet small B
Bet medium
I'd check out of position on the turn. We have a marginal made hand. If a heart comes on the river we can always raise or check raise.
Bet small
Bet large
A) Check
Top pair and a flush draw I'm probably gonna bet medium
Medium
Check
medium
Check
medium
OOP I’m either donk betting small here or I am betting around 20k
Is there math for 3/4x ‘logic’ ? Thank you for the material 🎉
big
Ck
I am thinking that I would check, with the smallish bet at first.
I think he should have checked the river, to make it look like he missed AK/AQ
12:18 50% pot bet.
Rip that sucker all in vs a non professional and let them call with whatever they have. No way we're ever folding and I don't think checking will induce them too often.
Oh wait I read the spr wrong, nvm not all in. But definitely betting a reasonable size, around half pot
good video, great hearing your thought process
Glad you enjoyed it
Online ur getting a lot off people limping whit AAS KKs and when u 3 bet they just go all in lol
probably checking and then pushing or maybe calling
John I have a question, I see you almost om mtt exploiting the hands.
Do you believe sit&Go heads up hypers between €100 and €300 are still relevant? Or is cash game then better like 5-10? I struggle with the exploiment of the hyper games to get an extra edge with gto because it are short games. Can you give me some advice please hoe you think about these games?
I imagine those games are quite difficult.
A 20K bet sets up a river shove should you want.
The problem with shot clocks is that there is no marginal incentive. If I were managing a tournament, I'd give people N seconds to make a decision (N ~= 30), but then they would be able to bank some fraction of the seconds that they didn't use. They can't bank all of them, or you really don't change anything, but by allowing them to bank some of the time, you create marginal incentives to not use all the time allocated to you.
The other neat thing is that you can start to adjust the fraction of unused time that is returned to your bank, depending on how players respond to the incentives.
Where do you guys play online ? Trying to find a trust worthy site for the US
There are none that are super safe.
too much talking
Ok.
check marginal made hand that can easily call a normal raise
I think we should distinguish between bluffing and lying. Bluffing is betting with the intent to get someone to fold a better hand. Lying is verbal, and not a necessary part of poker. If you lie at a poker table it's still lying. It's not a bluff. You can only bluff with your chips, you can only lie with language. They are not the same.
????? who said the were the same?
Thank you Jonathan and Toilet!
*Side-Note* When you need to use the Jon you just gotta use the Toilet. Sorry just had to say that it is too perfect 🤣 Like if you get this joke.
Cute.