PiKVM! What is it?!
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looking really healthy Wendell
Indeed.
ootl his weight loss or did something happen?
@@realms4219 got bit by a tick and is vegan now? Or something like that
@@realms4219 they never gave much detail. It seems like he was bit by a lone star tick which makes it so you can’t eat red meat anymore. Since then he’s been vegetarian at minimum and possibly vegan.
If tick bite makes you thin so I need to bite the tick to gain more weight got it
Oh man, it blew my mind when I realized I could use keyboard hotkeys to switch inputs over my Pi KVM, instead of having to buy one for each system!
I'm actually working on a scaled-down version of this that lets you plug a Pi Zero W's USB OTG into a KVM switch's hotkey/keyboard USB port, and exposes an HTTP API that lets you actuate the hotkeys over a network.
It's useful for situations like mine, where I have a single long cable connecting my living room TV to several different systems in my server room (i.e. a Windows VM for games, a Kodi/CoreELEC box, and a Linux desktop for everything else) and can switch between the inputs by hitting a button from my phone's browser.
You could use a Pi KVM to accomplish all that, but it would be kind of overkill since you likely wouldn't use any of the remote-display capabilities or fancy hardware beyond a simple SBC.
Effectively, I'm using my Pi to turn my "dumb" KVM switch into a "smart" network-connected one, using USB OTG and some Python glue.
I have a working prototype right now and will be sharing it to Github soon!
I saw a video from Jeff Geerling where installs the PiKVM on his Dad's computer at his radio station(I'm not sure what version it was tho) but it didn't have 4g/5g connectivity but that is AWESOME!! I was actullyu blown away to learn about it being able to actually engage the power and reset button on the MoBo ..... And now that you have cleared up the difference between YOUR KVM and the PiKVM I know which one I would need to use for my cases (it's yours :D )
I remember using a KVM way back in the year 2000 with 12 ports so I could hook up 12 PCs on one mouse and keyboard, doing windows images and other software setups, sure saved a ton of time doing a PC refresh for a gov building.
You look great Wendell!! Keep up the good work☺️
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I made it with 2 hours to spare. I've been wanting one of these guys (an older model) for a while now. Glad I waited a couple of months.
I have bought a PiKVM 3 with the kickstarter a few years ago and I can confirm it's been solid so far. You can hook this up to some cheaper HDMI switches (listed in their wiki) so you can control different systems from the same device
Same here. Can also confirm that the Discord community was a huge help in diagnosing my own wiring screw up...haha
i no enjoi four play this games. pikmin no have four india. only four white four mans and little bit race. i hope four pikmin change and become love four india
Same here! Zero issues other than it looks like my oled screen might be failing but it’s not the PiKVM’s fault. And honestly I never use it but if I wanted to replace it, it’s like an $8 part on Amazon. I have mine hooked up to an ezcoo 4x1 kvm switch and it works great. I was able to enable switching in the PiKVM software so that I can select exactly which machine to go to from a button in the GUI. 10/10 recommend
I jumped on the Kickstarter for the Plus on the day it opened six weeks ago, and it was already 53% funded.
Appreciate the in-depth look into this, Short Circuit just talked about it
This is incredible, thanks for the video!
I'm using pikvm since it was diy only. Then I backed the v3 hat. It's really good product
Yep, I bought one, nicely done Wendell!
I cannot wait to get my V4, love my V3.
Been using the diy version for a few years now, I chose to use a smart plug and boot on power via bios solution vs the hard wire. Works great , I have rebooted my box from all over the world...
Glad I ordered 2 a couple of months ago but this gives me some ideas using a L1-KVM....
Excellent little film thank you ⭐⭐⭐⭐✔✔
I switch on multiple computers via Wake-on-Lan. Even have dedicated buttons in the webui to trigger it from the pikvm
great stuff, i bought 2 instantly, very high use case scenarios for me !
Glad you received everything fine! Happy PiKVM'ing!
Is there a chance in the future to make a PCIe x1 2D dGPU version similar to ASRock Rack PAUL but with more open firmware support?
Make one capable of 4k@120hz, 4:4:4 and hdr over gigabit.
My unreasonable demands must be met!
@@haywagonbmwe46touring54 I'm not the person you must ask to, but you can reach them on Discord!
Still, the issue isn't PiKVM as much as CM4 and Pi4 CSI interface limitations. Who knows, maybe the next PiKVM iteration could use PCIe capture... Is USB-3 fast enough?
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 for PiKVM? Why?
@@ve2mrxB To not have to have a dGPU in the host to connect the PiKVM to…?
Since Ryzen AM4 systems have been a great opportunity for home DIY servers, especially since AMD didn’t cut ECC from their CPUs like Intel did, the APUs are a different story but less interesting due to only going up to PCIe Gen3. But the quality of the few AM4 “Server” motherboards that have onboard IPMI/KVM has been horrible (ASRock Rack), I’ve had much less issues (none) using mature AM4 prosumer motherboards like an ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE and install an ASRock Rack PAUL in it for remote management.
AM5 completely moved to CPUs with iGPUs but AM4 is still more power-efficient (especially the 5950X) if you don’t need the increased maximum performance of Ryzen 7000 CPUs.
I love my pikvm3 bummed I missed the new Kickstarter
Would de nice packing the PiKVM and KVM in a 1U rack mount.
Awe, crap! They closed the project yesterday and I just saw the video this morning. Guess I missed the boat again.
we need to see the pikvm + lvl1 kvm sorcery
There is a really cool RPI KVM kit made by a place called “Geekworm” that shoves it all into a PCI-e card. Perhaps it’s worth a look. Even has POE power.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. I believe you are talking about the PiKVM-A8. I have one and it's fantastic.
I just backed this new project, and the PiKVM V4 comes with the ATX installation brackets to install them into your PC case. The difference is this time it doesn't appear to slot into a pci-e slot.
Amazon sent me one by mistake..doesn't make sense to me. You have Raspi 4 8GB standalone computer that runs on 5V that I can run all day. Why on earth would I want to turn on a PC that consumes more power?
Looking good Wendall
This will come in handy for those older servers that have a lame KVM or BMC, ILOM or what ever they call it.
Engagement sent
A great concept and product PiKVM is, but the price sounds like too much for me. I do appreciate all functionalities and effort put into it, but what sounded great at first was Raspberry Pi + ~30$ HDMI capture card + software = KVM for ~60$. Now we are in range of 200-300$ for supercool features and essentially single remote device access. For multiple devices we need to add additional KVM that probably puts everything to range of 600+$.
the software still supports the DIY route and is free/opensource, so nothing stops anybody from doing a ghetto build.
A lot of people like to pay for the convenience of a turnkey appliance and you can get HDMI KVMs that are supported for less than 100$.
Even if it was 600+$ it would still be cheaper than most professional IP KVMs while having better features
@@marcogenovesi8570 fair points but imo a lot of those points would be stronger with a cost under $200. Also while the software might be turn key the solution requires a lot of cables coming out of both sides of the device. For that cost I’d think a lot of users would prefer a cleaner solution. Also with that many wires coming in and out from all sides I’d be afraid to deploy this many business use cases.
I took a look a the kickstarter and I have to agree it's a bit on the expensive side. Jeff Geerling recently did a review of a KVM that also uses a CM4 but sits in a slot in the PC. I snagged a couple those.
@@mattmichael2441 Why tho. It still costs less than half of any other similar device from "big brands" like say Aten and you are supporting the software developer.
As for the position of the cables I can agree but I frankly don't really care for my usecases. I have zip-tied enough random whatever boxes to SOHO racks that one more or less does not worry me much.
Anything bigger and the server or system has its own management controller already.
Anyway, since you are price-conshious and want more businness-y devices, check out BliKVM, it's a "third party equivalent" aka a chinese company that makes another PiKVM-compatible device that is functionally equivalent. They have a rack-mountable box, and a fake pcie card that lets you mount the kvm inside the server (wasting a pcie slot)
@@vincei4252 That's the BliKVM pcie or PiKVM-A8, it is still running the same PiKVM os image so what you see in this video is also how it works
Dude, you've lost weight! Looking good.
Crowdfunded the v3 and cant wait for the 4 plus
I am lucky, I worked on v4 with the team for the last few months. They are superb!
Stopped playing with KVM's years ago, when they included a ethernet management port on the appliances I ran. Unfortunately, those all required JAVA applets to interface with the boxes. So now I've set aside another old browser running old JAVA on them.
It is dope! Awesome things. Creating my DIY, I can not order one from India
Would this be a good solution for leaving your work computer at home while our of country, because if so this would save me so much frustration as I don't want to get data outside of the US.
Sounds like a sequel to pikmin
I think any RaspberryPi talk needs to go to the backburner until the manufacturing issue is resolved. Price gouging is unacceptable.
I don't think $35 Pis are ever coming back, so get used to it I'd say
@@treyquattro I won't, and I won't stop being one of MANY who complain about it, is what I say.
@@atlantic_love well, I complain about it too, but when demand vastly outstrips supply prices can only go one way (a quick look on Amazon yields only scalpers. Adafruit is still full of empty shelves)
@@treyquattro I think complaining is useful. Stressful for me, but I think that it's worth it if more people are made aware of price gouging. Then, people will stop paying that much if they have any sense. With RaspberryPi it's particularly troubling for me as the whole RaspberryPi concept was founded on being able to do all of these projects at an affordable price.
@@treyquattro I think the Pi Foundation should stop pretending to be an education advocacy organisation and admit that they're now an entirely "for profit" big-tech corporation. I guess they don't for tax reasons.
26 hours to go, go grab yours NOW
have you tried the v4+ with VGA or something like a Avocent rackmount KVM.
4:09 Yes. Oh God this, so much.
I've got the G9 pre-neo, and while I enjoy the real estate, the ability to have four full pages up and readable at the same time, and the immersion of 120hz on a 49" monitor, dear lord that thing is a quirky mess.
When I was working from home I was using a Thunderbolt to Display port adapter so I could hook my work laptop into it and get 5120*1440p and discovered the thing would not turn on if the adapter was in but the laptop not plugged in. I had to go to an HDMI cable, which only supports 3840*1080p, and that was better than having to always have my work PC plugged in to use my desktop...
And that's not to mention the number of recent games that completely lose their marbles on a 32*9 display.
Honestly, if I have to replace this, I'll probably end up getting one of LG's 21:9 UltraGear monitors. High Dynamic range lighting hasn't been a huge thing for me, and I do miss the color gamut of the IPS monitors.
Rather than attempt to shoehorn power and reset for multiple computers/ servers into the piKVM, might I suggest instead a PDU with remote management? I realize I am talking about pulling mains power, but if you can't soft reset a unit with direct KB&M & monitor access, then I would say in most cases you are going to pull the plug anyways.
I've been using an ethernet-controlled relay board for that. When I need to reboot stuff I go to its web interface and click on what relay I want to close to push the button
@@marcogenovesi8570 Interesting. I suppose then you would just need to set up an interface and label the relays with the appropriate system. The PDUs are pretty elegant but admittedly expensive.
@@greenprotag another option is to get a USB-controlled relay board and install the Crelay software on the Raspberry in the PiKVM. I have used Crelay in the past, it is opensource and supports most USB-controlled relays. I do not know if it is available on Arch Linux (the Linux OS running in the PiKVM) but it is easy to just compile from source even on weak devices.
Your weight is rly going down. Congrats!
when will it be able to do HDMI out i would like to have also a local monitor
Does Wendell have a DoD contract we don't know about... 🤔
he'd have to kill you... (although I'm pretty sure Wendell isn't the kill-y type, except for recalcitrant processes that is)
Is it possible to take an online call on a Chrome Book remote controlled via Raspbery, on my other laptop while using camera and microphone of my other laptop?
I remember time when Club3D made GPU's... It was glorious...
I just bought a v3 2 months ago. Ahhhh
The funding is moving up non-stop as I watch it
CA$ 1,011,597 currently
Is it fast enough to stream video games?
=( i miss the kickstarter, anyone know if there will be a v5 anytime soon?
So piKVM is a hdmi to DisplayPort converter?
I earnestly hope this is healthy weight loss Wendell, haven't been on the channel lately to know if it is or not.
he looks much better and healthier, keep up the good work wendell
@@dukekaboom3125 been reading some comments, they say something about a tic bite that has in return restricted his consumption of red meat.
If there's a way to add multiple ATX controllers, I'd be down for this. Maybe using a switch of some sort?
Yeah it really should be a higher priority. At the moment I'm ghetto-ing by with a battery of ethernet-controlled relays. When I need to powercycle stuff I open up the page of the ethernet relay controller. You can get boards like that for less than 50$ (or more) depending on how many relays you want.
I sense a lack of triglycerides on this channel
I'm confused, why KVM and not RDP?
V4 works with swtich too? Thanks
Can it pass through the beep speaker?
I also highly recommend the Geekworm PiKVM-A8. Very compact. Fits inside your case via a PCIE slot without actually needing it to be connected to the PCIE connectors.
The PI foundation is so fscked-up at the moment that this is probably the only way to actually get a Raspberry Pi.
I've been rocking TinyPilot for awhile now and been really happy with it.
This stuff is cool, but very costly. I rather get a server board with build in IPMI. It all depends on your usage. I wish I could afford these, including the Level1 switch.
Damn it. I just got a PiKVM 3
I'm rather happy with my PiKVM 3 though I suppose a PiKVM v4 would be a lovely thing to have too
it's just more bulky but can do the same things.
@@marcogenovesi8570 Well, not exactly the same or they wouldn't have released the v4. No 5G for example. But you're right, the V3 is fine for me. I just have a bit of buyers remorse.
@@MarcelRobitaille you can get a bare USB 2.0-to-mPcie or USB 3.0-to-M.2 for like 10$ (or splurge 20$ if you want a fancy one with the metal casing and antenna mounts).
That's what this feature is, an integrated slot that wires a USB port and a SIM slot to a slot meant for a modem card. You can have that too. It's just more bulky.
@@marcogenovesi8570 Its one of those things that might be nice to have if it were built in but I would never get around to adding it on myself
Can it do dual screen with 1 PC?
So that's where all raspberry pi went to...lol
I have an old PI3 B+ that I'd like to use to simply remotely turn my PC on and off. Is there an easy way to do that?
You can make DIY PiKVM on it: github.com/pikvm/pikvm
I see some other people commenting on your weight loss... and I know from experience that weight loss is not always a good thing. Type 1 diabetes did it for me. Everyone thought I looked great, but in reality my body was slowly starving to death... and I nearly got there before diagnosis. All I'm going to say is that I hope that you've got things in hand and it's not too stressful for you.
I think we should call it "health increase" instead.
He had a tick bite that has made him unable to process certain foods without becoming sick. His weight loss is a result of his healthier diet.
@2:52 You need to shoot with a different lens. The focus is so localized even looking a few inches back and everything is blurry. It makes zero sense to shoot tech products using that setup.
Problem with this is the lack of boot controll.
How so? It's completely independent of the host computer, so if the KVM is "up" then you can power on the monitored system using the front panel control breakout, you can view the bios boot sequence and interact with it using your remote keyboard and mouse... Is this not the case?
It has
Crap missed it 😒.
Still no mention of sound on the Kickstarter. Anyone know of a comparable solution with sound?
It has sound, check out the faq. It's a bit diy but it will stream the audio too
Sound over HDMI should work out-of-the-box with Windows on v4. Make sure your software is up to date, and cross your fingers for Linux.
My server only had VGA
So Supermicro hegemony in homelabs will finally end? Finally we would be able to buy ANY mainboards for our home servers and not have to use our ugly DIY solutions to manage them remotely?
this isn't for "home labs"
Could we have a video comparing AsRock PAUL IPMI card, BliKVM, Pi-KVM, Tiny Pilot, etc.?
BliKVM, Pi-KVM and PiKVM-A8 run the same firmware. Blikvm and PiKVM-A8 are just third party kits/boards
I have the pci version but didn't manage to get a cm4 at stock price so far
Yeah, cool gadget that i dont need.
Just wish they could make it a PCIe x1 2D dGPU version similar to ASRock Rack PAUL but with better firmware support.
You mean like the BliKVM Pcie?
They have one :)
@@Kajukota that's just a Pikvm wasting a pcie slot. It's not a 2D GPU and the pcie is not even used for power
@@marcogenovesi8570 Thanks, was starting to doubt my sanity ;)
There's a pretty cool project called the NeTV2, a FPGA based PCIe card with HDMI in and out, as well as internally facing IO. When it was announced I was hoping more would come of it, like it would be turned into a based FPGA graphics card and, by extension, a fairly powerful internal KVM/IPMI card. Unfortunately it's expensive and I suspect that's why it didn't get this kind of attention.
Really wish people would focus energy into other kinds of boards as well.
most other boards have atrocious software support, unless the manufacturer does something about it they will always get raspberry's sloppy seconds
I know, right? I'm an enthusiast! Why would I buy the *mainstream* board with something like 93% market share? I'd much rather be exclusive and unique and people should support me... but not too many people because then I won't feel special anymore.
@@tim3172 I can't tell if you're joking or not. I definitely don't think it should be about feeling special. I just really worry about RPF and Broadcom keeping the market locked down. The side effect of this is when they have a supply chain issues, prices skyrocket. I feel the same way about the retro fpga community's over reliance on DE10-Nano.
@@tim3172 Given I can't actually GET a raspberry pi at the moment, they have "something like" 0% market share. Given I can actually buy a newly manufactured Commodore 64 board in 2023 it has a bigger market share than the raspberry pi, even if they only sell 1.
Does this support VGA?
I use an adapter w/ mine that works for VGA.
You would need a HDMI to VGA adapter or HDMI to DVI or HDMI to DisplayPort depending on your video requirements.
My wife is going to kill me with the number of kvms I will be buying
That module to remotely turn on a computer makes it even more questionable that Intel and AMD ship their CPU's with that feature. Why ship it to all the customers if this is such a niche feature which probably less than 5% of the customers use and those customers can buy cheap hardware to do set up remote management themselves. I might be missing something but I would rather not have that feature on my CPU.
are those features even active in consumer stuff? Just because the CPU supports the feature by itself does not mean it's active. The motherboard has to support it too (similar to ECC ram support).
AMD calls it DASH and Intel calls it vPRO. Afaik they are available only on businness PCs where it's part of a fleet management application and makes sense.
Yea, they're great, but for 245.00 and 384.00 each? Fucking ridiculous. Everybody wants a Billion dollar yacht and everybody wants to be a Billionaire tomorrow.
For the cost of a PC I can buy an underpowered computer to control my computer.
The name is a bit awkward in Dutch
Day 07 of asking Wendell for my OpenShift content
Quick answer for what a PiKVM is: a moderately featured KVM that cost almost 1/3 (sometimes even half) of fully featured workstation/server board with actual KVM built in.
The Pi 4 itself can cost 2/3 of brand new ryzen iGPU builds 🤣
Overpriced, per $400 you can buy almost new PC LOL
Didn't almost any computer have remote management, for like 10 years now? Intel Vpro and pretty sure AMD has it's own.
I noticed Wendell deploying "blah blah blah" to fill in for detail a lot recently! It was especially noticeable in the recent Moore's Law Is Dead episode starring Wendell
That 5G option to have remote access to an entire network does sound like a security risk, from a business PoV.
sorry what? the 5G option allows you to do remote management without having access to the entire network.
@@marcogenovesi8570 OTOH it means someone who gets access to the wireless, completely out of band interface now has network access to your business through a presumably trusted machine.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Sounds scawwy but... how do you "get access to the wireless completely out of band interface" though.
Unless you do something monumentally dumb like giving it a public IP that is not a thing for 5G (it is more common than you think with true IPMIs, sadly) there is no way to connect to it from the internet anyway.
Such a setup would probably involve a VPN or a virtual wire (Nebula/Zerotier/other) so yeah if someone has the vpn access to get to this device then it's the same as someone having the vpn access to a conventional wired management interface.
Only difference is that this device will not be affected if somebody screws up the wired network, which can be a good thing.
@@marcogenovesi8570 It's not something that particularly scares me, because I don't run air-gapped or otherwise highly secure networks.
In most cases it would be absolutely fine but there are networking scenarios where a completely external network interface randomly connected to your network somewhere is a real security risk. For starters, it's not "5G", it's 3G/4G/5G. 3G has known security flaws, and there's also backhaul exploits that allow attackers to interfere with the communications between devices on mobile networks by communicating with carrier networks directly using SS7, which is still being used on current 5G network deployments. That might not breach a VPN connection but it still allows an attacker to probe the device in ways that might not be directly possible if it were connected over Ethernet only.
None of that is a problem for small scale normies like us but it's still another attack surface that needs to be maintained and could be exposing zero days to an externally accessible network interface. That's a big problem for larger businesses with loads of valuable data at risk.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 None of those exploits are relevant for an encrypted data transmission over a VPN. Yes you can disrupt or jam the wireless communication, surprising nobody.
The modem card is on a USB electrical connection, not pcie (as all modem cards usually are, the slot is wired with USB lines).
Even assuming complete compromise of the modem, USB has no DMA so the only thing the modem can do is screw with the network traffic, that is already encrypted by the raspberry. This is different than most smartphones where the modem is part of the same chipset and sees/uses the same ram as the CPU so a compromised modem can take over the OS easily.
I know nothing is 100% secure and all that, but the average corporate firewall has a bigger attack surface than this.
So this is why all the pi's are sold out! hahaha
only one of the myriad reasons. Personally I blame Jeff Geerling for building a Cray with compute modules
@@treyquattro "Hey look if you we put 300 pi's together it will perform the same as a Ryzen 7900" ha he makes fun vidoes.
@@MegaTechGuy Jeff's a good guy. i don't really blame him
@@treyquattro I blame the Pi Foundation selling almost exclusively to corporations who use the Pi as their platform. I wonder how they're able to maintain their "not for profit" status in the UK when their focus has shifted from education to corporations.
@@ffsireallydontcare "Raspberry Pi Ltd" is the ship they sail and is very much a "for profit" businness. They have a "Raspberry Pi Foundation" they dump money into for charity reasons but that's not their main ship.
It's a pity that you have to be able to basically hardwire/intercept the ATX power controls to be able to power on/power off/reset the system.
If it weren't for that fact, that it would be awesome because then I can just take that and move it around and be able to control any of my systems rather than having to be at least physically close enough to them, to wire in and intercept the ATX power commands.
Bummer.
Moral of the story: if you want to be able to power on/power off/reset your system at will, get a Supermicro, Tyan, ASRock, or Gigabyte server/workstation class motherboard which has built-in IPMI.
The board will cost you more compared to a consumer grade board, but if you want IPMI capabilities with this PiKVM V4, you might end up saving money by just getting the workstation/server class board in the first place (if they're available for the processor that you want to use).
+1 for Club3D cables. Pricy, but you actually get the quality.