The only way this might have happened is if a few dogs got separated for some reason and then returned to the village as they would have under normal circumstances
I think it's highly believable. Remember, the trapper arrived by canoe. If this is just a few families split away from their home tribe and were fisherman, they probably had canoes too. They may have had dogs themselves but not enough room on the canoes now that the dogs had grown. The two starving ones could have been an original breeding pair they brought, but with a full liter of healthy pups there just wasn't room. Especially if you're bringing back a dead family member to be buried in his ancestral land. Maybe they thought like Simon. They respected a human body more than the dogs when it was time to go. Not enough room, pups. I'll leave a few fish out but you're on your own now as I paddle home. This place is bad luck. We lost a man here. (Possibly multiple. I think I heard markers, plural. That's even less people left to paddle. And leaving a disturbed grave with neatly placed markers does kinda imply "We left town. Headed home. Help yourself to anything we couldn't pack. Including these fine Huskies." Also, thats an odd number of dogs. Pick of the litter probably got a ride out.)
Never heard of a brothel 😅 and before you say 'im not paying for it' ...that's exactly what your doing in nightclubs by buying them drinks all night and then not even guaranteed the beaver, most women are whores 👀 some know it and take payment in cash and the ones that don't admit it take payments in shoes/fancy restaurants etc 😅 regardless they all take our hard earned money one way or another 🤷🏼♂️
Villages disappear all the time in Canada. Canada itself disappeared over a weekend in 1978, but then reappeared and everything went pretty much back to normal.
Inuit would not just leave their dogs behind they're far too important/valuable This is one of the best researched versions of this story I've ever come across and while I'm certain that there's some truth to it the idea of the dogs being left to starve is suspect
Not if they are sick or unable to what is needed do to age related problems that dogs routinely suffer from such as bad hips , bad eye sight or blindness . They leave them fuckin dogs quick ,
also there were no footprints, food was being cooked but there were no humans. it was a case of mass abduction, similar incident took place in india. whole village disappeared over night.
On a true note: there was a town in Labrador that was so hard hit by the flu of 1918 that the lone survivor was trapped in her home by loose dogs. First responders had to shoot the dogs from the boat before they could land and rescue her.
@MomPickMeUpImScared-st4wi Yeah, no I understand the problem, but WOW, that's just so sad. Their people die, they wait, they waaaaait...they get hungry and wait even more... But, I mean, it totally makes sense, it's just a horrible sort of sense that it's making.
Inuit have been seasonally nomadic until incredibly recently - within living memory - with summer places good for fish and winter places good for another food source like seals or deer. Some qallunaq coming across a summer place that’s been packed up for the winter and a couple dogs left behind. Another thing, similar to our nomadic tendencies, dogs were often left on their own in the summer to tend to themselves. A few dogs getting left behind when they’re corralled to haul qamutiit in the winter wouldn’t be out of the question if they’d been born or recently or just buggered off chasing hare or something when the men came to harness them up. Just some qallunaq coming across something he’s unfamiliar with and deciding it’s something supernatural.
@@horstnietzsche1923 well if you actually knew about nomadic tribes you would know they went to the same places over and over like birds or other migrating animals... They had left that camp and returned at a later time many times over again... So leaving things is actually normal but apparently they never returned which is the big red flag to say it was not normal everyday travels ... No way in hell you actually thought nomadic people's literally carry everything from one camp to another...
ohhhhhhh Simon, of COURSE we don't have an official forest monster. We have at least baker's dozen of official forest monsters. I don't know if you've heard, but Canada is REALLY big and we have so many different types of forests.
the wendigo is also known as "the hunger that does not end" and may originate in the time of the "hungry moon" (february) where some people ate unnatural things, examples of which may have been covered in videos on the other channel.
Simon doubting that the RCMP wouldn't care about 2000 people disappearing. He needs to dig a bit into the level of concern Canada and the US had for native populations.
Ohh they would care if they disappeared cause if it disappeared them it could disappear anyone. They didn't care cause they know what happened and it probably sucked for the natives and made them look bad.
I would agree that they would very likely have ignored it if those 2000 people had disappeared over a large timeframe like ten or twenty years but had it been instantly I think they would have looked into it
@@japanesehitler Nah, the RCMP famously *hates* natives. We're talking "Kidnapping random people from their reserves and dropping them in the wilderness in the middle of winter" hate.
The format of this show is.....a talented writer presents a script and our talented presenter reads said script and adds rants and side tracks and sometimes fails to fully follow what he's reading but..... we're all here breathlessly waiting for him to get back on track. Simon is absolutely the best in the YouTubiverse. I'm so glad I found him.
My Grandmother was born in Una, Saskatchewan. Try and find it on a map. Lake Angikuni is above the tree line, so Beaver would have a hard time finding food, and trappers would have a hard time finding Beavers (and a hard time getting around by walking). Rather than ask where the village went, you should be asking why it was there in the first place. Hunter gatherers require a LOT of territory. A village this large would strip the territory rapidly of food. If there was a village it would have been established by the government, (which they did do to make control and administration easier), so there would have been an RCMP detachment right there, as well as either a landing strip or a dock for float planes. The total population of Nunavut today is 35K, up for 30k just a few years ago. 90 years ago it was still part of the North West Territories, but population that was to make up Nunavut was probably less then 15K. The disappearance of a sizable percentage of the population would have been noticed. There are so many holes in this story it is obviously nonsense.
And beaver, while they don't hibernate, tend to remain underwater for most of the winter. Their lodge is above water, of course, but the entrances are below the waterline, and they tend to eat food they've stored over the summer and stashed underwater. So if Joe LaBelle was trapping, it probably wasn't beaver.
@@fastinradfordableI reckon he was saying more that a loss of 2k inuit out of 15k would have been exceedingly obvious to the Nunavut community, if not RCMP/census data. To second the point about being above the arctic circle that immediately rang my BS bell was all the graves being dug up. One word - permafrost. The combination of constant freezing temperatures and little to no biology more substantial than fungi, lichen, and bacteria to weather, breakup, or aerate the soil means it can be as solid and substantial as some formulations of concrete. The most vanishingly small possibility of something like what was reported in the beginning to me is that the light in the sky could have been a boloide meteor airburst above the village that might have scared them off (and seen from farther away and therefore less substantially than from the community itself by the father-son hunting party in the sky). But this is merely my own hypothesis based solely on the small set of claims that I consider minimally plausible. But more plausibly it's BS & bravado through a 90+ year game of telephone (which im guessing is the same thing Simon calls 'Chinese whispers' which I reckon was too derogatory to be used in my community as a kid). A dash of an odd occurrence mixed with a century filled cauldron of embellishments and erroneous recollections at best to my mind.
If you make alcohol out of wood, you are more likely to get a lot of methanol in it, which is why it's advisable to make it out of something else. You can try to distill it to separate the methanol from the ethanol and, in fact, this is always what you do when you make alcohol. It's just that there is a whole lot more methanol that results from brewing with wood.
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Gotta go with Danny’s connotation of grave-robbing-think Ed Gein, Burke and Hare, etc.-jewelry and trinkets weren’t all they took! “Grave-robbing" is robbing the grave of its contents, not necessarily just robbing the deceased of their possessions.
in fact for a while in various places the recent dead were worth a lot of money when sold to universities or traveling carnivals for use in public disections (for which tickets were sold). The universities ostensibly did this as anatomical lessons, the traveling carnivals didn't have such sensibilities and advertised it as part of their freak shows. And that's not even going into occult rituals or Chinese (and probably other) folk medicine using parts of dead bodies.
@@harrypothead42024 They began their grisly career by robbing graves, but Knox insisted on only the freshest corpses, and when Burke and Hare couldn't find any, they decided to create their own.
I remember Ed Gein's story and yes, he was Not after valuables. He was really a very.... 'disturbed' man and that is putting it politely. He was found guilty, but ruled clinically insane.
The population of the settlement in 1930 made me instantly skeptical. Even today the third biggest city in Nunavut is only 1300 people. Somewhere along the line someone added one or two zeros (which SImon mentioned right near the end of the video)
You should do a Decoding the Unknown on the Inslaw Affair, it’d be nice to a mystery channel on TH-cam have a video about that scandal created later than the 1990’s. No other TH-camr will touch the subject so you could rack up some serious views.
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a single empty grave with neatly stacked stones sounds more like one that has not yet been used rather than one that has been robbed, especially given that it was winter; it would probably be wise to prepare at least one - just in case it's needed - before the ground is too frozen to dig
My first thought too, it wasn't unheard of in olden days that if somebody was on their deathbed, their family would dig a grave even before they were dead to have it ready when they were gone, and if the ill person recovered, well, you have an empty grave nobody is using.
I love that is so confused that people would care more about dogs than other humans …. It really drives home that he doesn’t actually digest much of what he reads a lot of the time….. man has far too much faith and trust for someone who has “learned” what he has.
@@wingerding 1. Never said it was wrong in any way…. I actually used the word love 2. Simon doesn’t say he likes dogs more than people, and he is surprised to learn that people would value dog life over human life 3. Simon specializes in darker content that you would expect would paint him a certain way, but as he himself says, he does not write the scripts and that he has a terrible reputation for not retaining the things he presents. He has certainly done stories where the idea of pets>people is proposed, but I am pointing out how it is rather humorous that he indeed does not retain the stories he narrates.
@@wingerdingbecause that's not what was said. This means you and Simon are straw manning people. Meaning you know you're wrong so you move the goalposts. I don't care when people die. 25 die every second. Usually from their own actions. When dogs die, it's because of people. So killing dogs is far more sad than people dying.
@@Gus-n9u @augustdice3914 I could reply to any of your statements with a good rebuttal but since your second comment is the most untrue I will stay there. He says he cares more about humans than dogs so many times throughout the show. I can tag you at least 10 links he says that exact thing. Go buy a carbon monoxide detector.
Woo hoo! Thanks for making this one, I knew Simon would enjoy it. I hadn't heard the suggestion about the avalanche before. It's really flat tundra there, so I'm not sure how an avalanche would occur. That idea had to have come from someone with no concept of the geography of that area.
The RCMP are quite infamous for not doing their jobs well, or at all. Especially when it comes to the First Nations or any investigation requiring them to travel to very remote locations. They also suffer problems with nepotism and corruption. Edit: for example, there are multiple cases where they have a missing persons case, they travel to their last known location, get off the plane, walk around, and say (insert animal or natural phenomenon here) killed said missing person before leaving. All without actually finding a body or evidence. There was one case where the body was in a boat on the other side of the lake, almost in view of the camp. The RCMP had said a bear killed him with ever even finding the body. The missing man’s friends went looking, found the body, and it was untouched by animals. There’s a reason hunters, prospectors, and natives don’t have a very high opinion of Mounties.
Interesting, I wonder if there are any historical events that might shed some light on why the RCMP might not leap at the opportunity to search for missing natives 🧐
"The RCMP are quite infamous for not doing their jobs well, or at all." No they bloody aren't. There have been mistakes made over the history of the force, and there have been serious issues in the past with their relationship with native populations that aren't entirely solved in some jurisdictions, but that generalisation of yours is bullshit.
@@agcons let’s go as the natives and rural folk, they might(will) have some very harsh words for them. And that’s not even getting into a how bad things where 30 years ago. I know you city slickers are out of touch with the rural population, so I’ll educate you real quick. The only time the RCMP come round, is when the issue is big enough it’ll hit the news in the cities. And if your missing someone, the first people you call are the local hunters and trappers, then the Mounties. Maybe do some research into the vast bureaucratic para-military government agency your sucking off before you blindly defend them.
I found this kind of interesting, according to Farley Mowat in his book "People of the Deer" about the Canadian Inuit, "Angikuni" means "big ghost". Makes the story sound more mysterious.
No, the RCMP taking one look at this, shrugging their shoulders and wandering off saying it’s unsolvable or was a bear attack is by far the most believable part of the story.
Simon. Do you genuinely think the Canadian government would care about 2000 indigenous people going missing? Especially back when this originally “happened”…..
You make a good point there. With both the American and Canadian governments history with the First Nations being full of tension, racial violence, abuse and anger plus the continued lack of interest by the RCMP in investigating missing persons cases involving women from First Nations I wouldn’t put it past the government at the time to view it as a…how do I put this delicately…I have no word for it. In any case I can see why people who don’t believe this actually happened claim so because they might have bias coloring their viewpoint. Did it actually happen? Yes I believe it did but did it happen on the scale described by the article? I honestly have no clue. I’m also not really familiar with Inuit beliefs about taint and impurity but if something really bad happened that required the entire community to dig up the bodies of the deceased and leave their dogs behind, a creature necessary for dog sledding then it probably had something connected with the religious beliefs of the community. I’m trying to look at it through the open mind of a person who is trying to learn more about the religious beliefs of the First Nations. It’s why I think the legend of the Naha of Nahanni Valley has a basis in truth. I believe the Angikuni Incident did happen but it wasn’t necessarily caused by fantastical forces. I’ll need to do more digging into the presence of oil wells and mineral deposits in the area but if I’m right in what I think is the likely scenario then it would make this event a great tragedy.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 yeah, if there is oil/minerals or a strategic reason for the government to have an interest in the land, I could easily see them orchestrating something
This. The idea that the RCMP, or any equivalent in the US, would care what happened to a large group of First Nations people is ludicrous. At that time, weren't both countries actively trying to eradicate natives as much as possible?
@@beckybequette8212 Revisionist nonsense, they viewed the natives as a curiosity and felt compelled to 'civilize' them at best, occasionally hostile nuisance at worst. 'Noble savage' ideation was extremely popular. Why is every third thing in the US a native name and why do reservations exist if this low-resolution worldview of "natives just aren't people and deserve no moral consideration" was real? Its modernist bracket thinking where everything across all time and space neatly fits into categories detached from context like "genocide" and "racism", people from the pre-modern era are so incredibly far removed from both of those (shockingly recent) concepts its laughable. What sounds more plausible: 1930s canadians were sending out death squads to hunt natives because no reason given besides fuck the natives I guess??? OR north american native populations follow the trend of literally all instances where advanced civilizations clash with relatively primitive ones, succumbing to decline due to a variety of factors? and not just deciding your take on history is "the evil white devils murdered everybody brown for no reason, the end"?
As a Belgian, I'm oh so happy to see Eddy Wally live on as an internet meme. The man was a living meme since long before there was anything resembling the internet. WOW, Geweldig!
If he was a newbie fur trapper, maybe what he saw wasn't a grave but a food storage cairn that had been emptied? I also agree with most that they wouldn't have left their dogs. I'm guessing it was an embellishment, or maybe a group of sled dogs whose owner had died while traveling and had been drawn to the settlement by the scent, not actually from there.
European explorers called the Inuit Eskimos when they first met them. The French settlers learned it from the native people of Eastern Canada, but the french spelled it esquimaux. It became Eskimo after that. The native word meant he who laces snowshoes. Poor translation from Ojibway language which the word could mean raw or fresh. Hence Eskimo came to mean eaters of raw/fresh meat.
Almost true, but the earliest French maps of the region have many different spellings and it is not a clear cut situation whereby terms identify peoples. To that point, the esqimaux you refer to, were placed on French maps prior to French/Inuit contact. The esqimaux the maps refer to are likely Innu. Esqimaux is a French word, not Inuit and not Innu either. I can go into much more detail, but the Smithsonian has all this with data and my conclusions.
@@andrewcollins3672 Thank you for your high level of educated knowledge with the topic. Not often we see such in comments-plenty WISHING 😂 & deluding however
Iam cree... During the fur trade, my language was linga franca... Followed by french! 'Eskimo' means 'eater of raw meat' singular... 'Eskimo-ack' means 'people that eat raw meat'. Its older cree. Modern cree is almost identical. 🤔
As someone who watched a lot of Simon's channels i thoroughly enjoy this channel as a look at the real guy, not the fact man. It feels like talking to a friend about weird ass things, really enjoying it :)
How do they know the grave was "dug up" - implying that remains were removed from the grave? Is it possible that what was found was a freshly dug grave with the stones neatly stacked beside for a member of their community who was close to death or perhaps had recently passed away, but hadn't been interred yet? I'm curious how this was determined.
I commented the same thing and I see someone else has pointed out that Inuit tribes would travel between locations by season and it might be too frozen to dig in winter so these things are planned in advance. Makes sense to me.
I can't even imagine the amount of work Simon must have to do to prepare for a 5 day vacation. Like, surely he's already working at max levels of productivity normally to fill his 253 different channels? Working more on top of that to prepare for a vacation just doesn't seem like it would be physically possible. New conspiracy: Simon is a time lord
13:02 YES! Exactly! I’m always annoyed when people mix up grave robbing and body snatching. Grave robbing - stealing things (like jewelry) from graves Body snatching - stealing the corpses, preferably while fresh, from graves Typically, either is done with the intention of selling the stolen goods.
If you haven't covered it on any of your channels yet, please cover Garbo the spy (Juan Pujol Garcia) and his role in WW2. I've heard the story, it's insane and hilarious and I think it'd be great to cover here.
Grave robbing actually often does involve stealing the bodies themselves. There was a long period of time after medical schools required cadavers dissection before allowing a student to be called Doctor, but the schools were not providing the bodies to dissect. Grave robbing was once a rite of passage in medical school.
I will forever find the fact that Simon grew up basically 30mins down then road from me and I recognise a lot of these random places from his tangents somewhat wild
@@wingerding So then, is it Canada goose or Canadian/Canadien goose. btw: How can you trust a spell checker that highlights 'Canadien' as an error? (I'm from New England, but I was a goalie when I played hockey and Patrick Roy was basically a god to me when I was a kid. So this is a transgression that cannot be remedied by polite means >.
@@raymondclark1785 where to? Folks here in Rigolet - until the salmon market dried up - basically went out to their summer places spread our all up and down the bay with their nets and boats, and then go to their trapping lines in the winter. My great-grandparents’ summer places are still mostly standing.
If the Inuit were invited to leave for another planet, one of thier first objections would have been: this is our home, where our ancestors are buried. Assuming there was a valid reason for them to move, digging up ancestors to come with, may have been an acceptable breach of protocol.
Hey I can add another reference in the chain for this one, Disaster Illustrated (1976) by Woody Gelman & Barbara Jackson; I read this book as a kid (still have it on my shelf) and that story was pretty memorable. This version was short but still pretty close to the original (probably sourced from the 1959 Frank Edwards version): population 30, Joe LaBelle's discovery; the empty cairn, abandoned for about 2 months before Joe got there, adds some flavor details about the findings in the hut. But this version has nothing about finding live dogs left; states that the search with the mounties was done with LaBelle there with them and that dogs were found "100 yards from the village, tied to tree stumps-and dead from starvation" but not buried deep in snow though. No mention of alien lights yet either haha.
That's the version I recall. Even then, I wondered about the idea of carrying a long dead relative away, while abandoning living dogs. And as a boy who had grown up in the woodland mountains, you don't leave food behind in winter travel because things can happen to delay your journey, even when it's only a few miles. But this tale still has value as a good campfire story to tell wide eyed grandchildren. And add your own embellishments, everybody else does.😂
Oooh, a Danny script for DtU! How's the basement treating you, Danny? Love your introductions! "It's all the fault of the people who write the stupid books" is my new favourite Factboi quote!
Can we be sure the grave was dug-up instead of just pre-dug for a person who either never went in, or hadn't yet died? It would also explain the gravestones being neatly stacked if they were pre-made or traded.
I've heard about this a million times and always thought it sounded ridiculous. I'm actually glad Simon is covering this because I will probably agree with him.
Lots of fun this video! If you want some "wood-brew" get hold of some Terva. An interesting Finnish drink made from pine sap that translates to "tar". Guess what? It tastes like tar! But it is wood-brew.
A town near me in the US has this big English styled complex for shopping/arts/etc, and it's called Canterbury so I'd believe the real thing is a tourist hotspot
Also grave robbing of actual bodies was definitely a thing people did (and Simon has done a video about! 😂) for dissecting and learning "most times?" 😬😊
Yeah, but doesn't it have it's own word for that? Vandalism maybe? Sorry, English is not my first language. It's just "robbery" implies taking valuables while grave digging/vandalism/whatever this is called is about bodies specifically as in disturbing the dead's rest (which is considered weird, taboo and crime probably anywhere in the world).
Inuit ( Inuktitut) would never leave their sled dogs to starve, they obviously met with some type of violence ( and more than likely by the hands of the RCMP) Let's not forget that starting in the 1920's the RCMP started slaughtering sled dogs to make the Inuit settle in one place ,the RCMP stated that sled dogs were killed bc they were disease ridden However, Inuit who depended on their working dog teams for their survival and well-being were used to managing the health of their dogs, understood about diseases that could affect dogs and dealt with sick dogs proactively. The Canadian government ,the RCMP and churches have persecuted the Inuit and First Nation's Peoples relentlessly it is our deepest shame as a nation .
I'm a fan of Simon's channels, but I love this one, Casual Criminalist and Brain Blaze the most. The writing and editing is fantastic but it's Simon's tangents I come for most of all!! Thanks for always entertaining and educating ne - I ALWAYS check for sources on articles or books too!! 😂😂
I’ve never heard of this one before, but… My line of thinking was “Angikuni doesn’t sound very Inuktitut, but then again I know like two words in that language, so…” -> “The hell kind of Inuit group has a village of two thousand people in 1930?! … or an extremely robust alcohol production system?!” And then it just continues on with the disbelief from there… Tl;dw, the only accurate statement in the whole account is that the Mounties can and will shrug their shoulders at any mystery that takes more than two braincells to solve, especially if it happens to Indigenous people. (Btw the singular of Inuit is Inuk, and the plural of moose is moose!)
Been binging these the last week, great content, and at this point I am just waiting for the book release and Simon to shout: MONEY! It always cracks me up
You, sir, have more common sense than 99% of people then, as the overwhelming majority of these comments reflect 1. an illegitimate claim to knowledge, followed by 2. uncritical acceptable of obvious falsehoods, and 3. an obvious ideological message underlying the base claim itself, namely disparaging remarks towards ethnically white north americans in general and the canadian government in particular who are apparently cartoon villains.
Bingo hay river and yellowknife barley have 10000 people today and are by far the largest towns in canadas north. Hay river maybe had 2000 back then, 2000 people going missing from one settlement is pure bullshit. How the fuck did they feed themselves with that large a population where the land is almost impassable any season but winter.
2:13 Nunavut is not “one of the” most northern territories in Canada. It is THE northernmost territory in Canada as it encompasses Ellesmere Island, which has CFB Alert, the northernmost permanent settlement in the world.
Great video, clearly a lot of research went into it, the script is very well put together and I just love the random outbursts from Simon! 😂😂 Thanks for the great content! 👍👍
Nine dogs is just one team. A single team could end up with no Innuit to pull through any number of accidents. Or say the leader of the tribe dies and they bury him, then change their minds because that leader was the one who thought the location of the village was a good idea. They have a chat, dig him back up, and move back to wherever they moved from. The amount of non-mysterious solutions to this are legion.
Oh, Simon! Continually hearing you talk about people “hunting beaver” is leaving me in stitches! 😂🤣😂🤣 I’m glad my humour hasn’t changed since I was 14…😀😀😀
Just to clarify about animal behavior, domesticated dogs that are trapped when their owner passes away typically won't start to eat their dead owner's body until they are absolutely starving, usually after about two weeks, while cats will start eating their owner almost immediately when they are hungry. It's very likely based on this knowledge that domesticated dogs wouldn't eat the bodies of other domesticated dogs that were their "friends" until they absolutely had to as well.
5:52 Hunt for beaver and a fishy meal, 🤔 , hmmm, for some reason I'm all of a sudden transported back in time to most weekends when I was around 20. Not sure why though... 🤣🤣🤣
simon, graverobbing most definitely was for bodies any jewelry as just a bonus back then doctors and universities would pay good money for bodies to dissect and study
Its still crazy to me people call a waterway that shallow a river because im from the southern states in the US and for us theirs 3 types of constantly moving water smallest being a stream usually no more than few feet wide and maybe a foot deep, next is what we call a creek which is what it looks like Simon was standing in and they can be as shallow as a stream or several feet deep but are usually decently wide and dont usually have much current unless its rained allot or that creek is a runoff for rivers or something else, and a river is like the Mississippi River. Neat the differences in what we call things and others call the same things.
Hey Simon! Long time fan! I have a huge request, im sure you may have heard the story of Boriska Kipriyanovich, a Russian boy, also a Indigo Child, claiming to have originally been from Mars. I would LOVVEEEE to hear you cover this story.
Can you do a video on Nepal’s royal family massacre and the conspiracy behind it. I think it’s a crazy story that the mainstream media really didn’t pick it up
Simon: Focus. No, really, focus. The focus was super crisp, but on the picture frames behind you. You were soft throughout. Just drop your coke can where you're going to sit, swap out to manual focus, set your focus, and go about your business as usual.
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Coke?
Waterproof? There's 2 giant holes in the top!
Wow, I'm dumb. I had to look up the KR abbreviation. I was like "Croatia? No wait, that starts with a C not a K" 😂
@@holyassbutts yup, not for sale in the EU and for good reason. So his claim that they're the best shoes he's ever had is a flat faced lie.
The idea of Inuit simply leaving behind their dogs to starve is enough to make me be highly skeptical of the story in any form.
In any form?
Exactly
The only way this might have happened is if a few dogs got separated for some reason and then returned to the village as they would have under normal circumstances
I think it's highly believable. Remember, the trapper arrived by canoe. If this is just a few families split away from their home tribe and were fisherman, they probably had canoes too. They may have had dogs themselves but not enough room on the canoes now that the dogs had grown. The two starving ones could have been an original breeding pair they brought, but with a full liter of healthy pups there just wasn't room. Especially if you're bringing back a dead family member to be buried in his ancestral land. Maybe they thought like Simon. They respected a human body more than the dogs when it was time to go. Not enough room, pups. I'll leave a few fish out but you're on your own now as I paddle home. This place is bad luck. We lost a man here. (Possibly multiple. I think I heard markers, plural. That's even less people left to paddle. And leaving a disturbed grave with neatly placed markers does kinda imply "We left town. Headed home. Help yourself to anything we couldn't pack. Including these fine Huskies." Also, thats an odd number of dogs. Pick of the litter probably got a ride out.)
@@deviledcake5923they, they would never willingly do that.
“His long quest for beaver” I know where he’s coming from 😂
😅😉😉
Never heard of a brothel 😅 and before you say 'im not paying for it' ...that's exactly what your doing in nightclubs by buying them drinks all night and then not even guaranteed the beaver, most women are whores 👀 some know it and take payment in cash and the ones that don't admit it take payments in shoes/fancy restaurants etc 😅 regardless they all take our hard earned money one way or another 🤷🏼♂️
Shit bro that’s one of those forever quest 😂
Villages disappear all the time in Canada. Canada itself disappeared over a weekend in 1978, but then reappeared and everything went pretty much back to normal.
Did someone turn Canada off and then back on?
Like they'd installed a faulty update patch?
@@RichardWatt Yes, Canada is a lot like that. We used to turn off all the shops on Sundays because shopping wasn't permitted on the Lord's Day.
@@BigZebraComWe did that here in the U.S., too. How odd it was to have only the churches standing around.
Wait und what scp didn't do sh or actually get it back?
@@Imperial_Lizardgirl no one knows.
Inuit would not just leave their dogs behind they're far too important/valuable
This is one of the best researched versions of this story I've ever come across and while I'm certain that there's some truth to it the idea of the dogs being left to starve is suspect
Not if they were old, had some sort of infirmity etc. having lived in Alaska and worked with the Inuit, this is totally normal.
Actually not so much. Dogs to the Inuit are beasts of burden. Not pets.
Not if they are sick or unable to what is needed do to age related problems that dogs routinely suffer from such as bad hips , bad eye sight or blindness . They leave them fuckin dogs quick ,
also there were no footprints, food was being cooked but there were no humans. it was a case of mass abduction, similar incident took place in india. whole village disappeared over night.
"After doing a bit more digging they found evidence that someone had been doing a bit of digging." Not sure why, but I found that hilarious.
On a true note: there was a town in Labrador that was so hard hit by the flu of 1918 that the lone survivor was trapped in her home by loose dogs. First responders had to shoot the dogs from the boat before they could land and rescue her.
Good god, what..? It makes sense, but damn...!
Dogs.. they wait till they gotcha all alone. Shiesty
@@EShirako Imagine those dogs were bad people who deserved this. Feel more easier.
@MomPickMeUpImScared-st4wi Yeah, no I understand the problem, but WOW, that's just so sad. Their people die, they wait, they waaaaait...they get hungry and wait even more...
But, I mean, it totally makes sense, it's just a horrible sort of sense that it's making.
I heard it was aliens that turned some of the town to dogs and abducted the rest but 1
Simon! You looked up a place name pronunciation. I'm so very proud of you. Well done, lad.
Im particularly pleased that it was both Canada and Inuit related 😊
Inuit have been seasonally nomadic until incredibly recently - within living memory - with summer places good for fish and winter places good for another food source like seals or deer. Some qallunaq coming across a summer place that’s been packed up for the winter and a couple dogs left behind.
Another thing, similar to our nomadic tendencies, dogs were often left on their own in the summer to tend to themselves. A few dogs getting left behind when they’re corralled to haul qamutiit in the winter wouldn’t be out of the question if they’d been born or recently or just buggered off chasing hare or something when the men came to harness them up.
Just some qallunaq coming across something he’s unfamiliar with and deciding it’s something supernatural.
This is complete bullshit. Your racist talk is shameful as hell. Real natives do not speak that way.
Maybe learn how to spell your racist term for white people.
And leave tools and food? Especially dogs which are very valuable tools especially for nomads? Idk I lean towards murder.
@@horstnietzsche1923 well if you actually knew about nomadic tribes you would know they went to the same places over and over like birds or other migrating animals... They had left that camp and returned at a later time many times over again... So leaving things is actually normal but apparently they never returned which is the big red flag to say it was not normal everyday travels ... No way in hell you actually thought nomadic people's literally carry everything from one camp to another...
@@KevinSorbo. to be fair, it’s not such a crazy thought to assume that
ohhhhhhh Simon, of COURSE we don't have an official forest monster. We have at least baker's dozen of official forest monsters. I don't know if you've heard, but Canada is REALLY big and we have so many different types of forests.
the wendigo is also known as "the hunger that does not end" and may originate in the time of the "hungry moon" (february) where some people ate unnatural things, examples of which may have been covered in videos on the other channel.
Even as a British person, if you visit a rural village, the locals look at you like they've just been told they're extras in a Wicker Man remake.
Midsommer must have done wonders for the Scandanavians then...
You must be a southerner 😂
"...who was on the hunt for beaver with his two sons..."
That is one good dad!😂
Not if they had "jobs" like, "keep the car running."
A+ video!
Fascinating how a story can endure, change, and continue to change more throughout time while other stories just are forgotten instantly.
Simon doubting that the RCMP wouldn't care about 2000 people disappearing. He needs to dig a bit into the level of concern Canada and the US had for native populations.
Ohh they would care if they disappeared cause if it disappeared them it could disappear anyone. They didn't care cause they know what happened and it probably sucked for the natives and made them look bad.
Ideological babble.
I would agree that they would very likely have ignored it if those 2000 people had disappeared over a large timeframe like ten or twenty years but had it been instantly I think they would have looked into it
That's a delicate way to put it.
@@japanesehitler Nah, the RCMP famously *hates* natives. We're talking "Kidnapping random people from their reserves and dropping them in the wilderness in the middle of winter" hate.
The format of this show is.....a talented writer presents a script and our talented presenter reads said script and adds rants and side tracks and sometimes fails to fully follow what he's reading but..... we're all here breathlessly waiting for him to get back on track. Simon is absolutely the best in the YouTubiverse. I'm so glad I found him.
You just described Brain Blaze lol Simon just wanted an excuse to swear and tangent in more videos
He almost unwatchable
No. No. He's unwatchable.
Definitely has some ADD going on
@jeffm1269 if he's unwatchable then why are yo¿u here watching?⁷
My Grandmother was born in Una, Saskatchewan. Try and find it on a map.
Lake Angikuni is above the tree line, so Beaver would have a hard time finding food, and trappers would have a hard time finding Beavers (and a hard time getting around by walking).
Rather than ask where the village went, you should be asking why it was there in the first place. Hunter gatherers require a LOT of territory. A village this large would strip the territory rapidly of food. If there was a village it would have been established by the government, (which they did do to make control and administration easier), so there would have been an RCMP detachment right there, as well as either a landing strip or a dock for float planes. The total population of Nunavut today is 35K, up for 30k just a few years ago. 90 years ago it was still part of the North West Territories, but population that was to make up Nunavut was probably less then 15K. The disappearance of a sizable percentage of the population would have been noticed.
There are so many holes in this story it is obviously nonsense.
And beaver, while they don't hibernate, tend to remain underwater for most of the winter. Their lodge is above water, of course, but the entrances are below the waterline, and they tend to eat food they've stored over the summer and stashed underwater. So if Joe LaBelle was trapping, it probably wasn't beaver.
Your argument “they would have noticed”
Your foundation is faith in your government and for that reason alone we shouldn’t take your word for it
@@fastinradfordableI reckon he was saying more that a loss of 2k inuit out of 15k would have been exceedingly obvious to the Nunavut community, if not RCMP/census data.
To second the point about being above the arctic circle that immediately rang my BS bell was all the graves being dug up. One word - permafrost. The combination of constant freezing temperatures and little to no biology more substantial than fungi, lichen, and bacteria to weather, breakup, or aerate the soil means it can be as solid and substantial as some formulations of concrete.
The most vanishingly small possibility of something like what was reported in the beginning to me is that the light in the sky could have been a boloide meteor airburst above the village that might have scared them off (and seen from farther away and therefore less substantially than from the community itself by the father-son hunting party in the sky). But this is merely my own hypothesis based solely on the small set of claims that I consider minimally plausible. But more plausibly it's BS & bravado through a 90+ year game of telephone (which im guessing is the same thing Simon calls 'Chinese whispers' which I reckon was too derogatory to be used in my community as a kid). A dash of an odd occurrence mixed with a century filled cauldron of embellishments and erroneous recollections at best to my mind.
lol, if i google your gramma's birthplace, i get a pizza restaurant in sktoon, sk
If you make alcohol out of wood, you are more likely to get a lot of methanol in it, which is why it's advisable to make it out of something else. You can try to distill it to separate the methanol from the ethanol and, in fact, this is always what you do when you make alcohol. It's just that there is a whole lot more methanol that results from brewing with wood.
Always? No. Use sugar instead of pectin. Just yeast and sugar and your really should not be creating any methanol.
Simon: "Oh, let's not go here again."
Also Simon: "Okay, so let me explain."
Listen, fact boi, your Vessi ads are VERY compelling. These shoes seem to be exactly what I need. And you're right, I really do not want to miss this one.
But you really need to tell them to start shipping to Europe!
Gotta go with Danny’s connotation of grave-robbing-think Ed Gein, Burke and Hare, etc.-jewelry and trinkets weren’t all they took!
“Grave-robbing" is robbing the grave of its contents, not necessarily just robbing the deceased of their possessions.
in fact for a while in various places the recent dead were worth a lot of money when sold to universities or traveling carnivals for use in public disections (for which tickets were sold).
The universities ostensibly did this as anatomical lessons, the traveling carnivals didn't have such sensibilities and advertised it as part of their freak shows.
And that's not even going into occult rituals or Chinese (and probably other) folk medicine using parts of dead bodies.
Burke and Hare didn't Rob Graves
@@harrypothead42024 They began their grisly career by robbing graves, but Knox insisted on only the freshest corpses, and when Burke and Hare couldn't find any, they decided to create their own.
Body snatching
I remember Ed Gein's story and yes, he was Not after valuables. He was really a very.... 'disturbed' man and that is putting it politely. He was found guilty, but ruled clinically insane.
The population of the settlement in 1930 made me instantly skeptical. Even today the third biggest city in Nunavut is only 1300 people. Somewhere along the line someone added one or two zeros (which SImon mentioned right near the end of the video)
If you think a lone mountain man would estimate populations accurately you’ve never spent much time alone.
Seeing 500 he may think oh thousands
The original article claimed 6 tents and a population of 25. I don't know where the idea of thousands comes from.
You should do a Decoding the Unknown on the Inslaw Affair, it’d be nice to a mystery channel on TH-cam have a video about that scandal created later than the 1990’s. No other TH-camr will touch the subject so you could rack up some serious views.
The best part of Simon's videos is watching him have an argument with himself.
I think Simon had tested some woodbrew just before doing this video
I told my husband about how much you like Vessi’s shoes and so he ordered a pair. He has a lot of trouble with pain in his feet and most shoes bother him after a few minutes of walking in them but not his new Vessi hightop tennis shoes. He says they are super comfortable for walking and that is really a big deal because he hated walking cuz it always hurt.
Simon could be getting robbed by someone and he’d just stop and say “I don’t believe it” “Fake” 😂
a single empty grave with neatly stacked stones sounds more like one that has not yet been used rather than one that has been robbed, especially given that it was winter; it would probably be wise to prepare at least one - just in case it's needed - before the ground is too frozen to dig
My first thought too, it wasn't unheard of in olden days that if somebody was on their deathbed, their family would dig a grave even before they were dead to have it ready when they were gone, and if the ill person recovered, well, you have an empty grave nobody is using.
Quotes taken out of context:
You know who loved dogs more than humans? HITLER!
-Simon Whistler 2023
I love that is so confused that people would care more about dogs than other humans …. It really drives home that he doesn’t actually digest much of what he reads a lot of the time….. man has far too much faith and trust for someone who has “learned” what he has.
@@Gus-n9u he's reporting his personal experience, in which many people told him dogs were more important than humans. What's wrong with that?
@@wingerding
1. Never said it was wrong in any way…. I actually used the word love
2. Simon doesn’t say he likes dogs more than people, and he is surprised to learn that people would value dog life over human life
3. Simon specializes in darker content that you would expect would paint him a certain way, but as he himself says, he does not write the scripts and that he has a terrible reputation for not retaining the things he presents. He has certainly done stories where the idea of pets>people is proposed, but I am pointing out how it is rather humorous that he indeed does not retain the stories he narrates.
@@wingerdingbecause that's not what was said. This means you and Simon are straw manning people. Meaning you know you're wrong so you move the goalposts.
I don't care when people die. 25 die every second. Usually from their own actions. When dogs die, it's because of people. So killing dogs is far more sad than people dying.
@@Gus-n9u @augustdice3914 I could reply to any of your statements with a good rebuttal but since your second comment is the most untrue I will stay there. He says he cares more about humans than dogs so many times throughout the show. I can tag you at least 10 links he says that exact thing. Go buy a carbon monoxide detector.
Woo hoo! Thanks for making this one, I knew Simon would enjoy it. I hadn't heard the suggestion about the avalanche before. It's really flat tundra there, so I'm not sure how an avalanche would occur. That idea had to have come from someone with no concept of the geography of that area.
Two DtU episodes in one week? Truly a blessed time.
The RCMP are quite infamous for not doing their jobs well, or at all. Especially when it comes to the First Nations or any investigation requiring them to travel to very remote locations. They also suffer problems with nepotism and corruption.
Edit: for example, there are multiple cases where they have a missing persons case, they travel to their last known location, get off the plane, walk around, and say (insert animal or natural phenomenon here) killed said missing person before leaving. All without actually finding a body or evidence. There was one case where the body was in a boat on the other side of the lake, almost in view of the camp. The RCMP had said a bear killed him with ever even finding the body. The missing man’s friends went looking, found the body, and it was untouched by animals. There’s a reason hunters, prospectors, and natives don’t have a very high opinion of Mounties.
Interesting, I wonder if there are any historical events that might shed some light on why the RCMP might not leap at the opportunity to search for missing natives 🧐
@@radeon8461 - The solve rate for native murders is 88%. The solve rate for non-native murders in 89%.
"The RCMP are quite infamous for not doing their jobs well, or at all."
No they bloody aren't. There have been mistakes made over the history of the force, and there have been serious issues in the past with their relationship with native populations that aren't entirely solved in some jurisdictions, but that generalisation of yours is bullshit.
@@JayM409 So within margin of error identical.
@@agcons let’s go as the natives and rural folk, they might(will) have some very harsh words for them. And that’s not even getting into a how bad things where 30 years ago. I know you city slickers are out of touch with the rural population, so I’ll educate you real quick. The only time the RCMP come round, is when the issue is big enough it’ll hit the news in the cities. And if your missing someone, the first people you call are the local hunters and trappers, then the Mounties. Maybe do some research into the vast bureaucratic para-military government agency your sucking off before you blindly defend them.
Googling "woodbrew alcohol Inuit " took me to the stories about "The Angikuni" LOL. A rather circular reference.
I found this kind of interesting, according to Farley Mowat in his book "People of the Deer" about the Canadian Inuit, "Angikuni" means "big ghost". Makes the story sound more mysterious.
No, the RCMP taking one look at this, shrugging their shoulders and wandering off saying it’s unsolvable or was a bear attack is by far the most believable part of the story.
I think the moose could be considered Canada's official forest monster. Iv seen videos of how much havoc they can cause.
Simon. Do you genuinely think the Canadian government would care about 2000 indigenous people going missing? Especially back when this originally “happened”…..
You make a good point there. With both the American and Canadian governments history with the First Nations being full of tension, racial violence, abuse and anger plus the continued lack of interest by the RCMP in investigating missing persons cases involving women from First Nations I wouldn’t put it past the government at the time to view it as a…how do I put this delicately…I have no word for it. In any case I can see why people who don’t believe this actually happened claim so because they might have bias coloring their viewpoint. Did it actually happen? Yes I believe it did but did it happen on the scale described by the article? I honestly have no clue. I’m also not really familiar with Inuit beliefs about taint and impurity but if something really bad happened that required the entire community to dig up the bodies of the deceased and leave their dogs behind, a creature necessary for dog sledding then it probably had something connected with the religious beliefs of the community. I’m trying to look at it through the open mind of a person who is trying to learn more about the religious beliefs of the First Nations. It’s why I think the legend of the Naha of Nahanni Valley has a basis in truth. I believe the Angikuni Incident did happen but it wasn’t necessarily caused by fantastical forces. I’ll need to do more digging into the presence of oil wells and mineral deposits in the area but if I’m right in what I think is the likely scenario then it would make this event a great tragedy.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 yeah, if there is oil/minerals or a strategic reason for the government to have an interest in the land, I could easily see them orchestrating something
They’d probably assume it was just another department that did it.
This. The idea that the RCMP, or any equivalent in the US, would care what happened to a large group of First Nations people is ludicrous. At that time, weren't both countries actively trying to eradicate natives as much as possible?
@@beckybequette8212 Revisionist nonsense, they viewed the natives as a curiosity and felt compelled to 'civilize' them at best, occasionally hostile nuisance at worst. 'Noble savage' ideation was extremely popular. Why is every third thing in the US a native name and why do reservations exist if this low-resolution worldview of "natives just aren't people and deserve no moral consideration" was real? Its modernist bracket thinking where everything across all time and space neatly fits into categories detached from context like "genocide" and "racism", people from the pre-modern era are so incredibly far removed from both of those (shockingly recent) concepts its laughable. What sounds more plausible: 1930s canadians were sending out death squads to hunt natives because no reason given besides fuck the natives I guess??? OR north american native populations follow the trend of literally all instances where advanced civilizations clash with relatively primitive ones, succumbing to decline due to a variety of factors? and not just deciding your take on history is "the evil white devils murdered everybody brown for no reason, the end"?
As a Belgian, I'm oh so happy to see Eddy Wally live on as an internet meme.
The man was a living meme since long before there was anything resembling the internet.
WOW, Geweldig!
When Simon said "cool, a corpse!" A lost it lol
If he was a newbie fur trapper, maybe what he saw wasn't a grave but a food storage cairn that had been emptied? I also agree with most that they wouldn't have left their dogs. I'm guessing it was an embellishment, or maybe a group of sled dogs whose owner had died while traveling and had been drawn to the settlement by the scent, not actually from there.
Look, when I’m watching a scary/murder movie….I’m like….don’t kill the dog!
Me too!
The little shoes on the highway in ROAD WARRIOR
Giving a like just for Simon’s rant about dogs. Would watch a full 2 hour video of just that.
European explorers called the Inuit Eskimos when they first met them. The French settlers learned it from the native people of Eastern Canada, but the french spelled it esquimaux. It became Eskimo after that. The native word meant he who laces snowshoes. Poor translation from Ojibway language which the word could mean raw or fresh. Hence Eskimo came to mean eaters of raw/fresh meat.
Almost true, but the earliest French maps of the region have many different spellings and it is not a clear cut situation whereby terms identify peoples. To that point, the esqimaux you refer to, were placed on French maps prior to French/Inuit contact. The esqimaux the maps refer to are likely Innu. Esqimaux is a French word, not Inuit and not Innu either. I can go into much more detail, but the Smithsonian has all this with data and my conclusions.
@@andrewcollins3672 Thank you for your high level of educated knowledge with the topic.
Not often we see such in comments-plenty WISHING 😂 & deluding however
Iam cree... During the fur trade, my language was linga franca... Followed by french! 'Eskimo' means 'eater of raw meat' singular... 'Eskimo-ack' means 'people that eat raw meat'. Its older cree. Modern cree is almost identical. 🤔
@@Erniethomas43 Thank you!
As someone who watched a lot of Simon's channels i thoroughly enjoy this channel as a look at the real guy, not the fact man.
It feels like talking to a friend about weird ass things, really enjoying it :)
How do they know the grave was "dug up" - implying that remains were removed from the grave? Is it possible that what was found was a freshly dug grave with the stones neatly stacked beside for a member of their community who was close to death or perhaps had recently passed away, but hadn't been interred yet? I'm curious how this was determined.
I commented the same thing and I see someone else has pointed out that Inuit tribes would travel between locations by season and it might be too frozen to dig in winter so these things are planned in advance. Makes sense to me.
Oooh good one
I can't even imagine the amount of work Simon must have to do to prepare for a 5 day vacation. Like, surely he's already working at max levels of productivity normally to fill his 253 different channels? Working more on top of that to prepare for a vacation just doesn't seem like it would be physically possible. New conspiracy: Simon is a time lord
Lol, I Iike the idea of Simon as a Time lord, though to be honest, I believe he has a team he works with behind the scenes.
(Simon backwards)No-Mis Simon is time itself.
13:02 YES! Exactly! I’m always annoyed when people mix up grave robbing and body snatching.
Grave robbing - stealing things (like jewelry) from graves
Body snatching - stealing the corpses, preferably while fresh, from graves
Typically, either is done with the intention of selling the stolen goods.
If you haven't covered it on any of your channels yet, please cover Garbo the spy (Juan Pujol Garcia) and his role in WW2. I've heard the story, it's insane and hilarious and I think it'd be great to cover here.
He already did (on his Biographics channel).
It was really good, too.
Wood brew? They all died of methanol poison!?
Grave robbing actually often does involve stealing the bodies themselves. There was a long period of time after medical schools required cadavers dissection before allowing a student to be called Doctor, but the schools were not providing the bodies to dissect. Grave robbing was once a rite of passage in medical school.
in medical school in europe or maybe just in great britain?!
The enchanted cupboard reference is from the "Indian in the Cupboard" books by Lynne Reid Banks published in 1980.
I will forever find the fact that Simon grew up basically 30mins down then road from me and I recognise a lot of these random places from his tangents somewhat wild
Without knowing where You live, that's not very helpful.
One Assumes you know where you live . . .
☆
The plural of moose is moose in case anyone was wondering. (just as the plural of deer is deer)
Meese or Meeses should be right in my world.
@@beastshawnee Just as Goose is Geese.
I've always heard meese here in Canada, and spell checker in Canadian hasn't corrected me.
@@wingerding So then, is it Canada goose or Canadian/Canadien goose.
btw: How can you trust a spell checker that highlights 'Canadien' as an error? (I'm from New England, but I was a goalie when I played hockey and Patrick Roy was basically a god to me when I was a kid. So this is a transgression that cannot be remedied by polite means >.
Do nomadic tribes not tend to have several villages which they can move between depending on the season. That makes sense. Great post Simon.
When I lived in Labrador there were hunting and fishing lodges but not enough for the whole village to go too.
they take everything with them. Everything includes food stores and animals.
@@raymondclark1785 where to?
Folks here in Rigolet - until the salmon market dried up - basically went out to their summer places spread our all up and down the bay with their nets and boats, and then go to their trapping lines in the winter. My great-grandparents’ summer places are still mostly standing.
Not leaving their dogs tied up though.
Also - the RCMP would have known about semi-nomadic life.
I knew it was a Vessi ad before Simon said the name. No other sponsor gets that much authentic praise.
For good reason. They are amazing shoes.
Backblaze does too whenever that actually happens
Magic spoon too. He loves that cereal lol
If the Inuit were invited to leave for another planet, one of thier first objections would have been: this is our home, where our ancestors are buried. Assuming there was a valid reason for them to move, digging up ancestors to come with, may have been an acceptable breach of protocol.
If "Wood brew" is anything like wood alcohol, than I think I know what happened to the villagers.
Hey I can add another reference in the chain for this one, Disaster Illustrated (1976) by Woody Gelman & Barbara Jackson; I read this book as a kid (still have it on my shelf) and that story was pretty memorable. This version was short but still pretty close to the original (probably sourced from the 1959 Frank Edwards version): population 30, Joe LaBelle's discovery; the empty cairn, abandoned for about 2 months before Joe got there, adds some flavor details about the findings in the hut. But this version has nothing about finding live dogs left; states that the search with the mounties was done with LaBelle there with them and that dogs were found "100 yards from the village, tied to tree stumps-and dead from starvation" but not buried deep in snow though. No mention of alien lights yet either haha.
That's the version I recall. Even then, I wondered about the idea of carrying a long dead relative away, while abandoning living dogs. And as a boy who had grown up in the woodland mountains, you don't leave food behind in winter travel because things can happen to delay your journey, even when it's only a few miles.
But this tale still has value as a good campfire story to tell wide eyed grandchildren. And add your own embellishments, everybody else does.😂
Oooh, a Danny script for DtU! How's the basement treating you, Danny? Love your introductions!
"It's all the fault of the people who write the stupid books" is my new favourite Factboi quote!
It's like the ultimate game of hide and seek.
Maybe it was like that old Monty Python thing -aliens turned everybody into Scotsmen and they all walked away to Scotland.
Can we be sure the grave was dug-up instead of just pre-dug for a person who either never went in, or hadn't yet died? It would also explain the gravestones being neatly stacked if they were pre-made or traded.
I remember when Simon stared up and he was all mister professional and shit. Now he just barks into the mic. I LOVE IT.
I've heard about this a million times and always thought it sounded ridiculous. I'm actually glad Simon is covering this because I will probably agree with him.
Lots of fun this video! If you want some "wood-brew" get hold of some Terva. An interesting Finnish drink made from pine sap that translates to "tar". Guess what? It tastes like tar! But it is wood-brew.
A town near me in the US has this big English styled complex for shopping/arts/etc, and it's called Canterbury so I'd believe the real thing is a tourist hotspot
I like this less filtered, genuine version of Simon.
I love when I get to watch a new Decoding the Unknown
Also grave robbing of actual bodies was definitely a thing people did (and Simon has done a video about! 😂) for dissecting and learning "most times?" 😬😊
Yeah Burke and Hare being the most famous.
@@tonycowin Great movies too....both of them.
Yeah, but doesn't it have it's own word for that? Vandalism maybe? Sorry, English is not my first language. It's just "robbery" implies taking valuables while grave digging/vandalism/whatever this is called is about bodies specifically as in disturbing the dead's rest (which is considered weird, taboo and crime probably anywhere in the world).
@@mangogo44 Yeah, in some states....maybe all....they've got a crime called something like "corpse abuse" or some such.
@@mangogo44 No specific word other than that I think. Though Burke and Hare had the Biblically poetic epithet of The Resurrection Men.
Inuit ( Inuktitut) would never leave their sled dogs to starve, they obviously met with some type of violence ( and more than likely by the hands of the RCMP)
Let's not forget that starting in the 1920's the RCMP started slaughtering sled dogs to make the Inuit settle in one place ,the RCMP stated that sled dogs were killed bc
they were disease ridden However, Inuit who depended on their working dog teams for their survival and well-being were used to managing the health of their dogs, understood about diseases that could affect dogs and dealt with sick dogs proactively.
The Canadian government ,the RCMP and churches have persecuted the Inuit and First Nation's Peoples relentlessly it is our deepest shame as a nation .
I'm a fan of Simon's channels, but I love this one, Casual Criminalist and Brain Blaze the most. The writing and editing is fantastic but it's Simon's tangents I come for most of all!! Thanks for always entertaining and educating ne - I ALWAYS check for sources on articles or books too!! 😂😂
I’ve never heard of this one before, but… My line of thinking was “Angikuni doesn’t sound very Inuktitut, but then again I know like two words in that language, so…” -> “The hell kind of Inuit group has a village of two thousand people in 1930?! … or an extremely robust alcohol production system?!” And then it just continues on with the disbelief from there…
Tl;dw, the only accurate statement in the whole account is that the Mounties can and will shrug their shoulders at any mystery that takes more than two braincells to solve, especially if it happens to Indigenous people.
(Btw the singular of Inuit is Inuk, and the plural of moose is moose!)
Been binging these the last week, great content, and at this point I am just waiting for the book release and Simon to shout: MONEY! It always cracks me up
You're not crazy Simon, you can both love dogs and value human lives more! You're not alone!!!, also, Trolls gonna Troll
Wood alcohol, I make moonshine and wouldnt even think about making wood alcohol that stuff is just dangerous.
Danny, the beaver bit was quite naughty and not sure Simon noticed
I love how Simon is so confused about our species collective love of Dogs.
It's how we know he is a lizard person.
The fact he denies the existence of lizard people is how we know he's a lizard person 😂
Spot on.
Serious question: are lizard people aliens or native to earth?
@@tubensalat1453 They were here first. We're the aliens.
He made a good point about Hitler, though
11:30 "Let's not go there" Proceeds to go there
So Simon...
I will freely admit to knowing nothing, but 2000 people seems implausibly large for a remote fidhing village in Canada's far north.
You, sir, have more common sense than 99% of people then, as the overwhelming majority of these comments reflect 1. an illegitimate claim to knowledge, followed by 2. uncritical acceptable of obvious falsehoods, and 3. an obvious ideological message underlying the base claim itself, namely disparaging remarks towards ethnically white north americans in general and the canadian government in particular who are apparently cartoon villains.
Bingo hay river and yellowknife barley have 10000 people today and are by far the largest towns in canadas north.
Hay river maybe had 2000 back then, 2000 people going missing from one settlement is pure bullshit.
How the fuck did they feed themselves with that large a population where the land is almost impassable any season but winter.
2:13 Nunavut is not “one of the” most northern territories in Canada. It is THE northernmost territory in Canada as it encompasses Ellesmere Island, which has CFB Alert, the northernmost permanent settlement in the world.
The hunt for beaver 😳😂
The only sport that matters 😅
Love it when Simon compares sections of his audience to Adolf 😂
If he wad drinking wood alcohol, he was probably going blind because nobody should drink wood alcohol.
Methanol is what real men drink… we don’t need your ethanol 😂😂
Great video, clearly a lot of research went into it, the script is very well put together and I just love the random outbursts from Simon! 😂😂 Thanks for the great content! 👍👍
Nine dogs is just one team. A single team could end up with no Innuit to pull through any number of accidents. Or say the leader of the tribe dies and they bury him, then change their minds because that leader was the one who thought the location of the village was a good idea. They have a chat, dig him back up, and move back to wherever they moved from. The amount of non-mysterious solutions to this are legion.
7:54 Wth would you add that!? Its so much louder than everything else. This started my husband & I awake.
Oh, Simon!
Continually hearing you talk about people “hunting beaver” is leaving me in stitches! 😂🤣😂🤣
I’m glad my humour hasn’t changed since I was 14…😀😀😀
"Nice beaver" "Thanks, I just had it stuffed"
The idea of people hunting (or trapping beaver) _where there are no trees_ is funnier.
As a Belgian, I approve of the use of our beloved Eddy Wally's epic "wow". 14:00
Just to clarify about animal behavior, domesticated dogs that are trapped when their owner passes away typically won't start to eat their dead owner's body until they are absolutely starving, usually after about two weeks, while cats will start eating their owner almost immediately when they are hungry. It's very likely based on this knowledge that domesticated dogs wouldn't eat the bodies of other domesticated dogs that were their "friends" until they absolutely had to as well.
I spent a year thanks to the USAF in a Labrador village.
The local Huskies were bred with Wolves. If you fell down you were fair game :(
5:52 Hunt for beaver and a fishy meal, 🤔 , hmmm, for some reason I'm all of a sudden transported back in time to most weekends when I was around 20. Not sure why though...
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simon, graverobbing most definitely was for bodies any jewelry as just a bonus
back then doctors and universities would pay good money for bodies to dissect and study
What do they call it when anthropologists do it?
Oh Simon, you're so funny and delightfully sarcastic! As for sprinklings of curse words, you talk like everyone else I know.
All the innuendo you’ve given us over the years and you manage not to even pause at “on the hunt for beaver”. Shame, shame, shame….
Its still crazy to me people call a waterway that shallow a river because im from the southern states in the US and for us theirs 3 types of constantly moving water smallest being a stream usually no more than few feet wide and maybe a foot deep, next is what we call a creek which is what it looks like Simon was standing in and they can be as shallow as a stream or several feet deep but are usually decently wide and dont usually have much current unless its rained allot or that creek is a runoff for rivers or something else, and a river is like the Mississippi River. Neat the differences in what we call things and others call the same things.
Simon, I do hope that Coca-Cola sponsored you for this read 🙃
Thank you for this video. Very interesting.
Hey Simon! Long time fan! I have a huge request, im sure you may have heard the story of Boriska Kipriyanovich, a Russian boy, also a Indigo Child, claiming to have originally been from Mars. I would LOVVEEEE to hear you cover this story.
Indigo children are bullshit, which is why Simon and his writers won’t cover it.
Indigo children aren’t real. They’re just spoiled kids with serious behavioral issues.
You guys finally fixed the low volume audio, I’m so happy.
Can you do a video on Nepal’s royal family massacre and the conspiracy behind it. I think it’s a crazy story that the mainstream media really didn’t pick it up
Am I the only one that giggled to myself every time Simon said "hunting for beaver"?
Simon: Focus. No, really, focus. The focus was super crisp, but on the picture frames behind you. You were soft throughout. Just drop your coke can where you're going to sit, swap out to manual focus, set your focus, and go about your business as usual.
Oh, LOOK!!! Simon is drinking a can of Coke Zero, SO COOL!!!