Here's the remastered of the Miramax version. As a reminder from my previous announcement. Starting every last week of the month, the other dubs (that exist) will get the remastered treatment. Timestamps 0:00:00 Miramax Logo 0:00:17 The Beginning with Matthew Broderick 0:02:23 Introducing Tack and Jonathan Winters 0:06:32 Musical Number #1 0:10:06 Throne Room 0:11:48 Zigzag's Plan with Eric Bogosian 0:14:17 The Thief Trash Can, Pipes, and his mom 0:17:24 Pipe Attempt #2 0:18:41 Chase Scene with chattering 0:20:33 Musical Number #2 0:23:04 Polo Games 0:27:01 A Vision (that was shortened) 0:30:59 The Thief on tightrope walking with banter 0:33:08 The Balls are Gone 0:35:54 Preparing an Invasion 0:37:21 Zigzag's Desire 0:39:16 King Nod's Idea 0:41:53 The Brigands 0:44:12 Musical Number #3 0:46:21 One-Eye Camp 0:49:34 Oasis and the Camel's new voice 0:51:03 The Hands of Glory 0:54:18 The Witch, who is now "King" One-Eye's twin sister 0:55:56 Making Plans, now brief 0:57:03 The War Machine, which is mostly skipped 0:58:26 The Destruction, which is barely seen 0:59:35 The Thief after the Golden Balls with inner monologue, Tack vs. Zigzag with added dialogue 1:03:20 Zigzag Dies, "King" One-Eye's death is skipped, and the Golden Balls are saved 1:04:48 The End 1:06:37 Credits
"The voices are annoying, the cuts are irritating, the sound mixing is so bad, and adding more changes are very unnecessary. For some reason, the new voices, music, and sound effects are a lot louder than what was present in the Calvert version, never in my life how I came across such a thing, reminds me of DBZ Ocean Dub." Well if you think this dubbing is bad. This is nothing compared to the film Doogal which has some god awful dubbing where a lots of people hated it.
@@ToonBoom788 just quoting the movie, like the part where the the if is picking up the golden balls for the first time and when he grabs the last one he says he is going to Disney land with it, then he posses and says "okay okay, now who's got the camera". My sister wrote that on a poster that my wife and I had at our wedding
Congratulations, this version is... 🎉 OFFICIALLY NOSTALGIC 🥳 Sorry everyone, I guess you can't say anything bad about the Harvey Weinstein version because it has fallen into this TH-camr's rosed tinted goggles called "NOSTALGIA!" A mysterious void where anything that was once seen as mediocrity becomes a bonafide masterpiece when anything new comes out. Now I know there's that one piece of media from that specific era we grew up with, but regardless what year, what show or media it came out in... THE MIRAMAX VERSION STILL SUCKS. 😅😂
The thing that makes the war machine destruction scene funnier is the fact that throughout the movie, the thief always thinks ahead and plans his heists, which always fail. However, when going after the golden balls, he just acts impulsively and doesn’t think twice. And it’s the one time when he succeeds.
ive watched and seen both versions the original version and this edited one. honestly they both have their own charms. what i like from this version is the thiefs inner monologing lol. for me hes like the best character out of everyone.
I am literally on my knees thanking you for posting this because I just love this version of this movie (because I grew up watching this version) and I just couldn't find it anywhere till now! Thank you once again! 😭🙏
0:35-0:49 That magic pixie dust was animated by the late FX animator, Kathleen Quaife-Hodge for this version of The Thief and the Cobbler. She was best known for her effects animation of water on movies, such as The Land Before Time, Fern Gully, Once Upon a Forest, The Pagemaster, Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Tarzan to name a few.
Tack is adult Simba. Adult Simba is tack. I can't unhear it now neither will you. "REMEMBERRRR!!!" Darth Vader [Oops I mean dead giant Mufasa in clouds in overdramatic echo] "Father don't leave me!!" Adult Simba/Tack Aaaand scene😑🤌🎬.
On its own, without remembering the brilliant silent comedy in the original and the artistry/bias William put into this single character, this version of the Thief cracks me up for nostalgic reasons.
Can we all agree that the "Fearless scout" actually Rid like 2 days on horseback to the golden city while having One Eye's flag pierced through his chest with his life slowly fading away but still had All that energy to make it there to warn the king till his last breath? That scout should be Honored for his bravery and sacrifice to warn the king while dying and Deeply Injured.
DVD CHAPTERS 1. Seize Him! 00:00 2. Princess Yum Yum 06:33 3. Zig Zag's Evil Plan 11:48 4. The Theif Strikes Back 14:19 5. Falling In Love 20:33 6. Trouble Is Brewing 26:44 7. Atop The Minaret 31:01 8. Warn The Princess 35:38 9. The Brigands 41:57 10. The Good Witch 51:08 11. Royal Wedding 1:04:54 12. End Credits 1:06:41
Thank you so much for sharing not only this, but also the Australian dub!! 😊 I grew up with this version, so it has a special place in my nostalgic-heart (The Thief always makes me laugh!). The Australian version was really cool to watch as I’d never seen it. And The Recobbled Cut I’d seen ages ago and it’s so gorgeous! I really, really wish we’d get a 35mm print released for people to see this. ❤ Such a gorgeous film.
My top three favorite scenes were the polo horse scene, the singing brigands (sorry if I misspelled), and the thief rescuing the balls from the One Eyes.
I'm honestly more mixed towards the Miramax edit myself. I watch it on one of those Echo Bridge multipacks for sh*ts and giggles, even though there's no denying it's not quite the masterpiece Rick Williams would have wanted it to be. As for the sound mixing, to my ears, the Princess cut is a bit more louder.
When I first saw trailers and content regarding this production I just figured I would hate ZigZag and the Thief and be interested in the army, the main plot, and ofc rooting for Tack and YumYum... but now I'm sitting here, almost rooting for the Thief and obsessed with his humor and ZigZag's design and both of their voicing, and constantly nearly forgetting there's plot other than this brilliantly created (yet still creepy and frustrating) antagonist and the desperate, foolish, grabby, hilarious pickpotcket. "Oh yeah. This guy's tryna romance a young woman- one who's not only far younger than him, but who's heart fell for someone else. Right. There's supposed to be a massive army that'll cause problems on its way, and they're all doomed if this dork gets his grubby little hands on those balls. ...cough."
The cuts that were added, especially in the songs, are clearly noticeable, both in the character designs and in the animation frames, which are noticeably lower.
Damn, the American version of "The Thief and the Cobbler" has references to Britain Leader during WW2, Aladdin and Disney, although Aladdin was released in 1992, and "The Thief and the Cobbler" in 1993 (although it was created in the 60s).
I think this version is a little over-hated. obviously the original music, cast, scene positioning, animation and movie is way better and there was a lot more effort and love put into it but this isn't that bad in my opinion obviously whenever you think about how this isn't what Richard would have wanted it just rubs everyone the wrong way and that usually makes everyone hate it which happened to me i hated this version and i never watched it but after watching it i kinda like it but its not like this version isn't bad i feel like this is more of a guilty pleasure but i do agree that Richard should have been allowed to finish it his way.
Same with me. This film introduced me into the thief and the cobbler, and without it I wouldn’t be here. It’s obviously bad, but not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
Hi, i've been looking at your videos and edits for some time, it seems that you know this film well, so i have a couple of questions: How do you do your edits?, what programs or tools do you use? What are good sources for footage of the film? I'm mainly interested in original "pre-Calvert" animations and footage (because Calvert animations tend to be inconsistent and more "TV cartoon" quality), or stuff that resembles pencil tests and storyboards? Anyways, i've seen your edit fo the remastered workprint, it sure is nice, hope you can answer, nice day. :)
I use Adobe Premiere Elements 9 for 'The Thief and the Cobbler' videos. The good sources for the film I searched far and wide. The Mark 4 uncompressed can be found on Garrett's forum, though it's best not to give him clicks. The HD Reels used to be on Depositfiles when he was making the Mark 4, but were later removed. The VHS Workprint was originally on his Vimeo account, but his account was terminated. Most of the stuff I've said is on my Google Drive. And thank you.
Do you mind if I use your remastered workprint as a base if I made edits myself? Of course credit would be given if needed. I thought before of using Mk 4 as a source but despite trying to resemble the original version, it does use many Calvert animations, which I kind of not like. There are also blurry pencil tests of Zigzag trying to attack Tack on the horse but looking at the storyboard, i'm not sure if those are original or Calvert animations. I also found a video of the KA Reels (what does KA stand for?) edited to be as a workprint, which has a few unused animations I found interesting, so i might use that. I found a supposed script from 1990 at a site called Orangecow, is it legit? Anyways, i'm sorry if i ask many questions, i just want know things well.
@@al3x2706 Go ahead. I don't mind. Credit of course. The pencil test of Zigzag charging at Tack is unknown who did it. There's a slightly better quality of it in the 1st Calvert Workprint (Early Calvert Workprint, people call it). Don't remember. The KA might be someone's initials who saved the reels from the trash bin. The 1990 script is legit, there's more than that. There's the 1989 script, 'The Thief Who Never Gave Up' script, and 'The Majestic Fool' script.
@@Josh366lol2 Thanks. Can you share what you've got on your Drive? If not, that's ok. What do you mean by "Uncompressed Mk4"? Where do the "This is the first caravan in 30 years" and the "Attack to the sound of the trumpets" storyboards, pencil tests and audio come from? (I also thougt that taking stuff directly from Mk 4, somebody else's edit, wouldn't be nice and rather scummy, so i would prefer to remake scenes from scratch to avoid problems) Are the credits on Mk 4 accurate? Or is there a better list of people who worked on the film? Where can i find the other scripts? Any links? Thanks again for answering.
@@al3x2706 I can share via Google Drive. The extra audio of the Brigands came from a separate VHS tape with its own pencil tests and storyboards. 99% accurate of the credits. It was made before the reveal of the actual voices of Yum-Yum and the Mighty One-Eye. I can share the scripts from Google Drive.
I’m honestly suprised how bad King Nods and Phidos voice actors are. It’s so bad it’s making me cringe. Jeez. Though surprisingly I like Jonathan Winters Performance. Personally, I think most of the other new voices either sound fine or are just mediocre.
I have a theory that Tack and Princess Yum-Yum are Princes Jasmine's parents. Because at the end of the movie Tack becomes the new Sultan and we never got the Sultan's name or Jasmine's mother name, and I guess that why the Sultan allowed Jasmine to marry Aladdin because it reminded him of his relationship with Yum-Yum.
31:13 Rule number one: Keep your eye on the wire and have feet like a monkey. 31:19 Rule number two: It’s always good to wear underwear when you’re up this high. Otherwise you attract a sizable crowd. 31:33 Rule number one: Eyes and feet. 31:35 Rule number two: Underwear.
jeeeze. Ok. There is only 1 thing i liked better in this dub then in the origional. And yet they still screwed it up. Ill admit i like the endung with the thief tring to steal the orbs again, “And i love big distractions like royal weddings” ill admit thats a better ending for the theif ither than him just loosing interest and walking away. It reminds me of a “here we go again” senerio…To bad they added another 30 seconds of an epiloge descirbing how he got aressted and stuff, way to take away from the joke! (and yeah, the dub is no were near as good as the orgional, but in fairness, they did try to make good jokes with the theifs monolaug, some jokes were pretty funny and creative, like when he runs into his mom when crawing up the sewers, 15:54 that good. But yeah, it DOES rake away from the animators efforts to make a mute character expressive. The animators did not have the luxuary of having diolauge for this character to fill in the emotion, they had to animate whatever feeling he (and Tack for that matter) were expressing. The dub isnt the worst thing, but its a oretty big slap in the face to the animators you know?).
The reason for him loosing most likely is because one in the script it says he actually takes notice of all the death and destruction around him and puts two and two together that maybe this all happened because of those balls, it could also be flashbacks from the polo game that helps with his decision lol, Also at one point the movie was called The Thief Who Never Gave Up. I think you can see the obvious joke here
@@IamJustTheBiscuityOfTheSeaity oh my god I love that! I love the idea that the their remembered the polo game, and looked back at the golden balls like “…oh hell no not again!!!! Here u take them!!” 🤣🤣
@@Josh366lol2 ok, well can you do a comparsion of zigzag's plan (not the pencil test) from the original workprint to the recobbled cut (including different lauagages) 👍
@@greedysmile9229 I stopped doing comparisons a long time ago. They all get dated whenever I discover dubs nobody knew (like the Greek dub). And I lost interest making them.
7:21-7:38 I presume that Kathleen Quaife animated the water fountain in this scene. 54:28 - 54:44 and 55:22-55:26 I assume Quaife animated the Witch's smoke trails.
I tried watching the other version I kept falling asleep. Yeah the animation is gorgeous but the story wasn’t doing anything for me… I’m probably the odd ball here 🤷🏼♀️. I could do without all the singing though, was never a fan of that lol
Here's the remastered of the Miramax version. As a reminder from my previous announcement. Starting every last week of the month, the other dubs (that exist) will get the remastered treatment.
Timestamps
0:00:00 Miramax Logo
0:00:17 The Beginning with Matthew Broderick
0:02:23 Introducing Tack and Jonathan Winters
0:06:32 Musical Number #1
0:10:06 Throne Room
0:11:48 Zigzag's Plan with Eric Bogosian
0:14:17 The Thief Trash Can, Pipes, and his mom
0:17:24 Pipe Attempt #2
0:18:41 Chase Scene with chattering
0:20:33 Musical Number #2
0:23:04 Polo Games
0:27:01 A Vision (that was shortened)
0:30:59 The Thief on tightrope walking with banter
0:33:08 The Balls are Gone
0:35:54 Preparing an Invasion
0:37:21 Zigzag's Desire
0:39:16 King Nod's Idea
0:41:53 The Brigands
0:44:12 Musical Number #3
0:46:21 One-Eye Camp
0:49:34 Oasis and the Camel's new voice
0:51:03 The Hands of Glory
0:54:18 The Witch, who is now "King" One-Eye's twin sister
0:55:56 Making Plans, now brief
0:57:03 The War Machine, which is mostly skipped
0:58:26 The Destruction, which is barely seen
0:59:35 The Thief after the Golden Balls with inner monologue, Tack vs. Zigzag with added dialogue
1:03:20 Zigzag Dies, "King" One-Eye's death is skipped, and the Golden Balls are saved
1:04:48 The End
1:06:37 Credits
"The voices are annoying, the cuts are irritating, the sound mixing is so bad, and adding more changes are very unnecessary. For some reason, the new voices, music, and sound effects are a lot louder than what was present in the Calvert version, never in my life how I came across such a thing, reminds me of DBZ Ocean Dub."
Well if you think this dubbing is bad. This is nothing compared to the film Doogal which has some god awful dubbing where a lots of people hated it.
Zack: What Do You Want?
Thief: Hello 👋 Tack.
You say nobody asked for this, but I did lol. This is the version I grew up with and my family and I have so many inside jokes with this show
Like what?
@@ToonBoom788 just quoting the movie, like the part where the the if is picking up the golden balls for the first time and when he grabs the last one he says he is going to Disney land with it, then he posses and says "okay okay, now who's got the camera". My sister wrote that on a poster that my wife and I had at our wedding
@@DalTron001😂That's amazing! Y'all sound like fun
Congratulations, this version is... 🎉 OFFICIALLY NOSTALGIC 🥳
Sorry everyone, I guess you can't say anything bad about the Harvey Weinstein version because it has fallen into this TH-camr's rosed tinted goggles called "NOSTALGIA!" A mysterious void where anything that was once seen as mediocrity becomes a bonafide masterpiece when anything new comes out. Now I know there's that one piece of media from that specific era we grew up with, but regardless what year, what show or media it came out in...
THE MIRAMAX VERSION STILL SUCKS. 😅😂
Tack: Murderer!
The thing that makes the war machine destruction scene funnier is the fact that throughout the movie, the thief always thinks ahead and plans his heists, which always fail. However, when going after the golden balls, he just acts impulsively and doesn’t think twice. And it’s the one time when he succeeds.
The thief’s comments in this version is so hilarious. ‘You returned the golden balls!!’ ‘It’s my civic duty’ lmao
I'm impressed with the "Civic Duty" part and I think they should set up a community Service group called The Civic Duty Rangers ❤
Thief: I Want A Money 💵
ive watched and seen both versions the original version and this edited one. honestly they both have their own charms. what i like from this version is the thiefs inner monologing lol. for me hes like the best character out of everyone.
“hello betty!” is my fav part of him
I'm surprised nobody has tried to do one of those "Reanimated" collabs with ANY version of this movie. It seems like a ripe subject.
I'm surprised nobody has tried to do one of those "Reanimated" collabs with ANY version of this movie. It seems like a ripe subject.
This movie came out when I was a kid. Haven’t seen it in a long time. I actually forgot about it. Nice memories, but this movie is still weird. 😅
My feelings exactly. Granted, I prefer _The_ _Recobbled_ _Cut_ more than _Arabian_ _Knight_ , but there are elements of the latter that I enjoy.
Bro the thief has no right to be that funny 😭😭😭 the voice actor did an amazing job 👏
Comedy legend Jonathan Winters
I am literally on my knees thanking you for posting this because I just love this version of this movie (because I grew up watching this version) and I just couldn't find it anywhere till now! Thank you once again! 😭🙏
I never actually saw this growing up, I found it a few years ago on Netflix. Maybe 5 years ago? And it became one of my favorites. And still is
You see recobbled? This is asss even the poster thinks so read description
0:35-0:49 That magic pixie dust was animated by the late FX animator, Kathleen Quaife-Hodge for this version of The Thief and the Cobbler.
She was best known for her effects animation of water on movies, such as The Land Before Time, Fern Gully, Once Upon a Forest, The Pagemaster, Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Tarzan to name a few.
I went to look and her name is in the credits.
@@Josh366lol2 Yes, I noticed that when I watched it many times in the 2010’s and and early 2020’s.
in fact, most of the animation was crafted by Kroyer Studios
LittleFoot: Wait!
When I saw the chase scene, it made me think of that black and white Loony Land scene in Raggedy Ann and Andy: A Musical Adventure!
Same director
I just found this movie and wow, automatically in my top three.
The Thief has my humor I'm wheezing
Thanks for this! I've been meaning to watch every version of the film to compare them all, and this upload allows me to do so.
I actually loved the Australian version (from last year remastered) but it is kind of a great film, it really does give me nostalgic vibes
Tack is adult Simba. Adult Simba is tack. I can't unhear it now neither will you.
"REMEMBERRRR!!!" Darth Vader [Oops I mean dead giant Mufasa in clouds in overdramatic echo]
"Father don't leave me!!" Adult Simba/Tack
Aaaand scene😑🤌🎬.
The Miramax version is essentially an Abridged Parody Of Thief and the Cobbler before Abridged Parody was invented
Unpopular Opinion:
Jonathan Winters' Thief is Surprisingly Entertaining
On its own, without remembering the brilliant silent comedy in the original and the artistry/bias William put into this single character, this version of the Thief cracks me up for nostalgic reasons.
I love the Thief, He's Funny.
RIP Vincent Price
Horror legend 😎👍🏻
Can we all agree that the "Fearless scout" actually Rid like 2 days on horseback to the golden city while having One Eye's flag pierced through his chest with his life slowly fading away but still had All that energy to make it there to warn the king till his last breath? That scout should be Honored for his bravery and sacrifice to warn the king while dying and Deeply Injured.
15:58 - 16:06 The Thief's mom must have been voiced by Mickie McGowan who voiced the poo-poo platter waitress in A Bug's Life!
The best thing about this movie is the Thief talking 😂
The Thief is like Garfield in this version.
He would also hate Mondays
Does this mean he likes lasagna and pizza? 😂
I know this isn't the directors vision but JOHNATHAN WINTERS AS THE THIEF😂😂
DVD CHAPTERS
1. Seize Him! 00:00
2. Princess Yum Yum 06:33
3. Zig Zag's Evil Plan 11:48
4. The Theif Strikes Back 14:19
5. Falling In Love 20:33
6. Trouble Is Brewing 26:44
7. Atop The Minaret 31:01
8. Warn The Princess 35:38
9. The Brigands 41:57
10. The Good Witch 51:08
11. Royal Wedding 1:04:54
12. End Credits 1:06:41
Thank you so much for sharing not only this, but also the Australian dub!! 😊 I grew up with this version, so it has a special place in my nostalgic-heart (The Thief always makes me laugh!). The Australian version was really cool to watch as I’d never seen it. And The Recobbled Cut I’d seen ages ago and it’s so gorgeous! I really, really wish we’d get a 35mm print released for people to see this. ❤ Such a gorgeous film.
You’re welcome 😇
Yes! This looks great. Is there a way to get it without youtube compression?
My top three favorite scenes were the polo horse scene, the singing brigands (sorry if I misspelled), and the thief rescuing the balls from the One Eyes.
Yes this is the best version
nah
Thief: Hey 👋
0:44 But Simba, I thought it was the Great Kings of the Past that were up there.
Haha Good One
I remember first seeing trailer for it on a Gordy VHS, and I first saw the film in my later elementary school days.
This is the Version that the Nostalgia Critic Hates
I'm honestly more mixed towards the Miramax edit myself. I watch it on one of those Echo Bridge multipacks for sh*ts and giggles, even though there's no denying it's not quite the masterpiece Rick Williams would have wanted it to be.
As for the sound mixing, to my ears, the Princess cut is a bit more louder.
When I first saw trailers and content regarding this production I just figured I would hate ZigZag and the Thief and be interested in the army, the main plot, and ofc rooting for Tack and YumYum...
but now I'm sitting here, almost rooting for the Thief and obsessed with his humor and ZigZag's design and both of their voicing, and constantly nearly forgetting there's plot other than this brilliantly created (yet still creepy and frustrating) antagonist and the desperate, foolish, grabby, hilarious pickpotcket.
"Oh yeah. This guy's tryna romance a young woman- one who's not only far younger than him, but who's heart fell for someone else.
Right. There's supposed to be a massive army that'll cause problems on its way, and they're all doomed if this dork gets his grubby little hands on those balls. ...cough."
Tack and Yum-Yum have confirmed ages from the 1990 script. Tack is 20 and Yum-Yum is 18.
@@Josh366lol2 WOOT WOOT!!! (I meant Zigzag btw! I am not calling Tack a creep) 😰
@@charlidrawz I guess I half-read it when I was going through the notifications.
@@Josh366lol2 OH NO YOU'RE OKAY!
Just like Les Mis!
The cuts that were added, especially in the songs, are clearly noticeable, both in the character designs and in the animation frames, which are noticeably lower.
My favorite movie thanks to Matthew Broderick and Vincent Price ❤
Damn, the American version of "The Thief and the Cobbler" has references to Britain Leader during WW2, Aladdin and Disney, although Aladdin was released in 1992, and "The Thief and the Cobbler" in 1993 (although it was created in the 60s).
I think this version is a little over-hated. obviously the original music, cast, scene positioning, animation and movie is way better and there was a lot more effort and love put into it but this isn't that bad in my opinion obviously whenever you think about how this isn't what Richard would have wanted it just rubs everyone the wrong way and that usually makes everyone hate it which happened to me i hated this version and i never watched it but after watching it i kinda like it but its not like this version isn't bad i feel like this is more of a guilty pleasure but i do agree that Richard should have been allowed to finish it his way.
Same with me. This film introduced me into the thief and the cobbler, and without it I wouldn’t be here. It’s obviously bad, but not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
"Am I feeling love", like Tak and Yumyum were singing "Zag". Needless to express.
I have this version on DVD
Me too.
57:21 When you play the opposing team against your old team
Hi, i've been looking at your videos and edits for some time, it seems that you know this film well, so i have a couple of questions:
How do you do your edits?, what programs or tools do you use?
What are good sources for footage of the film? I'm mainly interested in original "pre-Calvert" animations and footage (because Calvert animations tend to be inconsistent and more "TV cartoon" quality), or stuff that resembles pencil tests and storyboards?
Anyways, i've seen your edit fo the remastered workprint, it sure is nice, hope you can answer, nice day. :)
I use Adobe Premiere Elements 9 for 'The Thief and the Cobbler' videos. The good sources for the film I searched far and wide. The Mark 4 uncompressed can be found on Garrett's forum, though it's best not to give him clicks. The HD Reels used to be on Depositfiles when he was making the Mark 4, but were later removed. The VHS Workprint was originally on his Vimeo account, but his account was terminated. Most of the stuff I've said is on my Google Drive. And thank you.
Do you mind if I use your remastered workprint as a base if I made edits myself? Of course credit would be given if needed.
I thought before of using Mk 4 as a source but despite trying to resemble the original version, it does use many Calvert animations, which I kind of not like. There are also blurry pencil tests of Zigzag trying to attack Tack on the horse but looking at the storyboard, i'm not sure if those are original or Calvert animations.
I also found a video of the KA Reels (what does KA stand for?) edited to be as a workprint, which has a few unused animations I found interesting, so i might use that.
I found a supposed script from 1990 at a site called Orangecow, is it legit?
Anyways, i'm sorry if i ask many questions, i just want know things well.
@@al3x2706 Go ahead. I don't mind. Credit of course.
The pencil test of Zigzag charging at Tack is unknown who did it. There's a slightly better quality of it in the 1st Calvert Workprint (Early Calvert Workprint, people call it).
Don't remember. The KA might be someone's initials who saved the reels from the trash bin.
The 1990 script is legit, there's more than that. There's the 1989 script, 'The Thief Who Never Gave Up' script, and 'The Majestic Fool' script.
@@Josh366lol2
Thanks.
Can you share what you've got on your Drive? If not, that's ok.
What do you mean by "Uncompressed Mk4"?
Where do the "This is the first caravan in 30 years" and the "Attack to the sound of the trumpets" storyboards, pencil tests and audio come from? (I also thougt that taking stuff directly from Mk 4, somebody else's edit, wouldn't be nice and rather scummy, so i would prefer to remake scenes from scratch to avoid problems)
Are the credits on Mk 4 accurate? Or is there a better list of people who worked on the film?
Where can i find the other scripts? Any links?
Thanks again for answering.
@@al3x2706 I can share via Google Drive.
The extra audio of the Brigands came from a separate VHS tape with its own pencil tests and storyboards.
99% accurate of the credits. It was made before the reveal of the actual voices of Yum-Yum and the Mighty One-Eye.
I can share the scripts from Google Drive.
I’m honestly suprised how bad King Nods and Phidos voice actors are. It’s so bad it’s making me cringe. Jeez. Though surprisingly I like Jonathan Winters Performance. Personally, I think most of the other new voices either sound fine or are just mediocre.
The very moment this version became good is 2:57
24:21 To please King Nod, beloved by all, commence the game! In short, PLAY BALL!
FIFA World Cup vibes ⚽️
I have a theory that Tack and Princess Yum-Yum are Princes Jasmine's parents. Because at the end of the movie Tack becomes the new Sultan and we never got the Sultan's name or Jasmine's mother name, and I guess that why the Sultan allowed Jasmine to marry Aladdin because it reminded him of his relationship with Yum-Yum.
How did the Thief come across his mom in the pipes?
Childhood memories
You finally put the Miramax logo in.
Because this is the Miramax version.
I can't believe that old lady was a beef head thanks to her muscular arms 😮
31:13 Rule number one: Keep your eye on the wire and have feet like a monkey.
31:19 Rule number two: It’s always good to wear underwear when you’re up this high. Otherwise you attract a sizable crowd.
31:33 Rule number one: Eyes and feet.
31:35 Rule number two: Underwear.
jeeeze. Ok. There is only 1 thing i liked better in this dub then in the origional. And yet they still screwed it up. Ill admit i like the endung with the thief tring to steal the orbs again, “And i love big distractions like royal weddings” ill admit thats a better ending for the theif ither than him just loosing interest and walking away. It reminds me of a “here we go again” senerio…To bad they added another 30 seconds of an epiloge descirbing how he got aressted and stuff, way to take away from the joke! (and yeah, the dub is no were near as good as the orgional, but in fairness, they did try to make good jokes with the theifs monolaug, some jokes were pretty funny and creative, like when he runs into his mom when crawing up the sewers, 15:54 that good. But yeah, it DOES rake away from the animators efforts to make a mute character expressive. The animators did not have the luxuary of having diolauge for this character to fill in the emotion, they had to animate whatever feeling he (and Tack for that matter) were expressing. The dub isnt the worst thing, but its a oretty big slap in the face to the animators you know?).
The reason for him loosing most likely is because one in the script it says he actually takes notice of all the death and destruction around him and puts two and two together that maybe this all happened because of those balls, it could also be flashbacks from the polo game that helps with his decision lol, Also at one point the movie was called The Thief Who Never Gave Up. I think you can see the obvious joke here
@@IamJustTheBiscuityOfTheSeaity oh my god I love that! I love the idea that the their remembered the polo game, and looked back at the golden balls like “…oh hell no not again!!!! Here u take them!!” 🤣🤣
59:04 when the Solar Eclipse starts
I believe i still have the VHS
1:00:16 - Ha! That was easy. You’re mine, Toots!
1:00:44 - I don’t think he said anything.
48:44 You have to admit, that was a pretty epic speech by Zigzag.
I own this movie on VHS.
Can someone tell me why Tack is so pale in the beginning tho? Like did he never go outside until he went to the desert with princess?
What year did this come out in?
1995.
@@Josh366lol2. Okay 👌
2 months after Pocahontas
28:34 ow! He blew it!
I actually like this version with The Thief who is mute in the original has a voice with funny dialogue
Wait Phido's voice actor is Eric Bogosian?
PRINCESS 👸 HAVE GRAMMY
Can you do a remaster of the earlier calvert workprint?
Currently in development still.
@@Josh366lol2 ok, well can you do a comparsion of zigzag's plan (not the pencil test) from the original workprint to the recobbled cut (including different lauagages) 👍
@@greedysmile9229 I stopped doing comparisons a long time ago. They all get dated whenever I discover dubs nobody knew (like the Greek dub). And I lost interest making them.
Ok. I understand.
Can you do a remaster of the special delievy promo for raggady ann and andy?
13:22/50:38/51:03-51:05 10 hr loophole
IN LOVE 😍 AND CURSH 😍😍
1:01:14 wait the thief is PREGNANT!?
They didn't even bother to make new animation for the thief speaking.
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That girl on the right in the thumbnail looks like Malva. Or am I just weird?
What's the difference between this version and the original??
What?
@@Josh366lol2 I meant the original version of The Thief and the Cobbler.
@@jasminnemcdonald94A Many differences. This link will help.
th-cam.com/video/rguJtmJXfsk/w-d-xo.html
Movie is actually called the cobbler and the thief NOT Arabian knight
The Thief and the Cobbler, it was called, 'Arabian Knight' when it was in theaters.
I love this movie
It’s Better Than
Roger Rabbit Since 1988
But this one’s came out
In 1995 Same Year When I Was Born
7:21-7:38 I presume that Kathleen Quaife animated the water fountain in this scene.
54:28 - 54:44 and 55:22-55:26 I assume Quaife animated the Witch's smoke trails.
35:21 the golden balls are gone
MY KINGDOM WILL COME TO DESTRUCTION AND DEATH!!
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Wait...it's not call the princesses and the cobbler !?
Different version. The one you're looking for is over here.
th-cam.com/video/Bk1Ipropzwc/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygULSm9zaDM2NmxvbDI%3D
Can you do a remastered of the calvert end credits?
It would be impossible because one scene is not in any version whatsoever.
@@Josh366lol2 Ok can you do a comparison of the chase scene and do a remaster of the special delivery raggedy ann and andy promo?
@@greedysmile9229 I've already did the chase scene comparison. I did that under sound effects comparison.
Link?
57:21 final battle begins
I can tell this version was redone by the guy that remade the Magic Roundabout into Doogal because GOD this version sucks. 😅
Yep. Same person, different company.
@@Josh366lol2 I’m glad that Weinstein is in prison!
Anybody like me think Tak looks more tan than white skin is from being in the 🌞?
35:20 the balls are gone
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I tried watching the other version I kept falling asleep. Yeah the animation is gorgeous but the story wasn’t doing anything for me… I’m probably the odd ball here 🤷🏼♀️. I could do without all the singing though, was never a fan of that lol
What year did this come out in?
Correct version: 1995!
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