The boyfriend has a right to set examples for his teenagers. HIS kids can follow his rules, but to force that on a 23 year old, he needs a dose of reality.
100% agree. A very wise child psychologist once pointed out to us that different ages get different privileges. Seems obvious but we were caught up in being fair, and that was wrong because our kids are about 4 years apart. A ten year old gets things a six year old doesn’t. So the guy needs to teach his kids that at 23 you’re an adult and a free agent. In theory, op can move out and support himself. And that’s not even starting on trying to step in and parent someone who lost their dad a year ago. It was a pretty exasperating story.
I think the wedding issue would best be resolved by making the ultimatum that if he really wants to bring his boyfriend, he needs to come clean to his family to get that madness out of the way BEFORE the wedding. Not during.
@ApenasumaARMY BR then those relatives gets uninvited, guy even said he would immediately cut anyone out of his life who tried to give his gay brother a hard time.
There would still be drama, trust me. I have two moms, married, and when my mother came out as gay there was lots of people leaving. It's very possible that op just wanted a day to celebrate with his family. The fight can come after.
That umbrella guy was not an ass. He went to a shop to get an umbrella with them in tow. If they didn't want to get an umbrella after being warmed multiple times, it's their fault. It's not his fault his friend are stubborn and didn't believe him. It's their own punishment for being dense.
the thing is he should have helped his friend. Then he should remind her/him as a joke when they see each other "hey do you remember that time you got soaking wet" and just laugh it off.
@@nicomasello7013 nah man... hes a friend, not a babysitter. if they don't wanna buy an umbrella they can feal with the consequences of not having an umbrella. it's not his job to make sure they're dry when they refuse to take the necessary precautions DESPITE his multiple warnings
Completely disagree with r/ re-wording instead, let's make that, I warned my friends that something bad was gonna happen, how to prevent it from happening, and what the cost would be if they didn't ....then I didn't go out of my way to reduce the negative outcome they had to face which essentially amounted to discomfort because they were being idiots
Lemme rephrase it like a vine skit(I've seen vine vids on TH-cam) OP: Yo guys, you want some umbrellas Friends: We good OP: It's literally going to rain hard! This ain't England. Come get some Friends: We straight OP: Aight, don't come to me LATER Friends: H-Heu, could you share the umbrella? OP: Nope! I warned you fools and you didn't listen! Stuff live baby!
@@75ur15 Op literally had no need, reason, nor purpose to lessen the negative outcome. He had already attempted to lessen it by warning them of the rain and why they would need it. They didn't listen therefore they got soaked. If you won't listen to someone trying to help you once, don't expect them to try to help you again
The boyfriend in the story needs to piss off. If you want to be a step father to kids that’s great, but if you don’t respect them as adults, then they will resent you as one Edit: I’d like to thank everyone for liking my comment! It’s been by far my most liked comment and it’s great to hear everyone here has common sense. Love y’all
It’s so stupid too. The OP is a goddamn adult and I’d tell him to fuck off and he doesn’t even help around the house, nor does he even live there. Who is he to try and act like a father figure to someone he’s not related to?
I saw that story on reddit, he's not even married to the mom and doesn't even live there! Op wrote a response where the boyfriend wanted him to share his car with his daughter and to give it to her instead! He sounds incredibly entitled!
The "Tig Bitties" story reminded me that when my niece was 7, she had a huge unicorn that she named "Badonkadonk" because according to her it means "big" 😂
Hey, I kinda disagree with the rain/umbrella thing. I see it like this. A: Are you hungry, want something to eat B: No, I'm fine, I'm not hungry A: Are you sure you're not hungry, I'm not going to share my food if your saying you're not hungry and don't order B: I'm sure I'm not hungry A-Gets their food B: Oh, that looks good I'll just have a bite A: No, this is my food you could have gotten your own Dude warned them that rain where they are is bad, and kept insisting they get a tool to keep them from dealing with discomfort and they brushed him off on it.
Imo opinion it’s everyone sucks here for the umbrella story with the friends sucking more. Your metaphor would be more apt if he had some food left over and threw it away instead of letting them have some, since he said the umbrella had enough room to comfortably fit 2 people. However he did warn them so they’re the assholes if they felt entitled to being under the umbrella, but since they are friends the dude not being willing to help his friends is a slight asshole like 0.5/5 to his friends 2/5
@@themultiversalassociationo9746 well i mean in my experience it kinda does, it pushes you to be less covered by the umbrella, although i guess that also depend son the size of the people it's being shared with. I'm tiny, 5'1, 128 lbs, and sharing my umbrellas still almost always ends up with me being half in the rain
I think she was just hit with the affection out of nowhere, wasn't accustomed to seeing guys like that, and took the toplessness out of context. Coming from a family that isn't very physical, I'd probably think it was weird, too. However, I wouldn't have made a thing about it until me and my significant other were alone, and would have backed off once I had reasonable context rather than doubling down. I'd maybe pay closer attention to how they interact after that, too, just to make sure the younger brother isn't showing signs of being sexually abused.
@@dahken417 You kinda just proved their second point a little with your last statement, that men - brothers, no less - can't be affectionate with each other without being scrutinised. You just took it a step further; instead of sexual orientation, you went straight for sexual abuse.
@@PixieStorm When an adult has sexual relations with a minor, it is sexual abuse. All Dahken said was that they'd confirm that nothing bad is happening before jumping to conclusions.
Moreover, "I was just stating my opinion and it didn't hurt anyone" b!tch, didn't you see my brother crying because of you? I'm glad OP got rid of such entitled, wait still applies "brat" for her? nah, entitled jerk.
@@sirdrumgun8680 Yes because anything other then beating each other senseless automatically means they're in a sexual relationship. As opposed to healthy non-toxic male affection No one would say this about two sisters no one would say this about mother and her grown daughter. But they'll say it as long as there are two men involved.
Desiree Loveros also you think I don’t have a non toxic male relationship I have to great younger brothers who I love dearly the older of the two i have some fights with but all together we’re good and the younger I have never had any fights with and they both mean the world to me I see op side completely and would be pissed but I would have tried to repair the relationship after I was done being angry
@Channel Description Ah I don't think you read correctly I believe they were talking about the mom's boyfriend trying to boss around the 23 y/o son not the brother and his sister
TALKINGtac0 I'm sure he's a good guy if not a bit clingy (I'm bad with words I didn't know what to say sorry) so yeah I would give him 3/5 at MOST not 5
But the umbrella one is just like this: Parents: Go on the toilet before we go on our trip because we wont stop them! Son: No I dont need to got that bad 2 hours later Son: I need to pee! Parents: We told you to go at home we warned you about it! I don’t understand why this guy was the asshole!
I think that's a semi good comparison but not necessarily apt in this situation. Him letting his friend get soaked is kind of sucky but he DID warn them to buy an umbrella and them getting soaked is the consequence of them not listening. Harmless in the end, and not necessarily an asshole move more of a learning experience. However, in your analogue if a child didn't go to the bathroom, and a parent said I won't stop for you to go, the kid then needs to go the consequence of them not listening would be having to hold it until the parent finds some place to pull over, so not necessarily a direct comparison. If you wanted to make it a direct comparison then the consequence would be the child peeing their pants in the car. That WOULD be harmful and an entirely asshole move, so I don't think that comparison is right. If you're trying to show the lack of assholery it would more likely be a kid going out to, let's say, rollerblade, the parent telling them to wear knee and elbow protection, the kid blowing them off saying they won't need it, only to fall and skid their knees. In the end though, agreed umbrella guy wasn't an asshole, just a little jerky, but that's his friend's own faults for not listening when he warned them multiple times.
@@JM-gj1oe not the first time either, someone freaked out because his girlfriend called his 12 year old sister fat, i dont understand why thats an asshole move to defend your younger sister.
they were being cheap and not trusting his word not willing to spend money on an umbrella, i am personally uncomfortable to be standing under the same umbrella unless the person is ultra close to me, not just a friend. so absolutely not, cus he even warned them that he is not willing to share an umbrella.
4:22 adults have boundaries too, and that man over stepped to the point where I would have just laughed at him, and said, "You don't have the authority over an adult, so if this carries on, I'll go legal over the harassment."
That tiger story reminds me of something like of my brothers did as a kid. He was obsessed with elephants and one of his favorites was Horny the elephant. He's an adult now and we still tease him about it 😂
I disagree with the rain one. Maybe 1/5 buttholes. I am a big believer of people being adults. The friends should have respected the fact that he warned them SO HE DIDNT HAVE TO SHARE and their inability to heed his advice and plan ahead forced him into a situation he didnt want to be apart of.
I agree. He told them to buy it. He warned them that he wouldnt share. That was being a butt hole it was trying to help his friends to make the correct decision
I agree with you, that's not nice but not an absolute butthole either as they have been warned. I can relate to the story op somewhat. See, yknow the person who always seem to have everything on her? That's me. Ppl critiques why I'm bringing shits (backpack full of gadgets and tech and tools and first aids, some on pockets tho) everywhere? For emergency I said, that won't happen they said... we won't need those they said.. Me personally: Starbucks coffee fell on top of labtop, I used my multi tools to take it apart in matter of minutes in that very Starbuck. Do a through out components drying, also wipe things with diluted alcohol (fyi, Starbucks water's their cheapest drink but at crazy mark up price) put them back together and I safely turned them on again by night (I know, risky, but I was also backing things up as I was in a hurry) Friend 1: Is hungry cuz an event taking longer than expected. I brought small snacks and some water. Headache? Stomach ulcer? Got them meds too, over the counter tho. Friend 2: attending same interview as me only to realize his top shirt button had fallen off. I brought sewing kit (with spare buttons, I took his lowest button for the top and the spare button at bottom). Also ripped clothing are frequently cases when hiking which was one of my hobby.. Friends' birthday party turned to disaster: I brought first aid as the hotel's first aid turned to be expired and a new one's pretty far we got emergency.. I even bring a certain type of antiseptic for people with allergy to the normal one (cuz I know a close friend of mine's allergy, I didn't bring much tho) Mom&fam: often didn't have charger, didn't bring umbrella, got cold, etc... All which I can solve with things I brought.. Everyone: phone ran out of battery. I had short cable as phone strap (double function) and power bank in pen case if not pockets. Not 100% like op, but if anyone critiques (teases are fine) my 'fussy'ness, s/he ain't getting anything from me.. unless it's emergency, like the first aid case.
What kind of friend are you if you don't let your FRIENDS under an umbrella? He said there was more than enough room for 2 people, so his 2 friends with no raincoat could've been just fine. He could've proved his point by keeping them in the rain for 10 seconds, after that, you're no friend, you're unreliable, won't be trusted again, might ruin your friendship, maybe your friends will get really ill just because you couldn't act like an ADULT and had act like a toddler about it "haha I was right and you were wrong", and lastly, you're a real asshole
@@nitrothunderbird6740 You act like they're lives were ruined. Its just rain lol. They spent an evening wet because they didn't know how to plan and listen to advice. Sucks. And that makes him unreliable? Aren't they the unreliable ones? No one wants to have liabilities running around. That is exactly what you are when you can't plan ahead and rely on other people to take care of you. If my friends can't be self sufficient then I don't wanna be friends anyway.
If i was his friend, and i thought i knew better and refused his well intentions repeatedly, i would be ashamed of entering under that umbrella even if my friend offered afterwards. I wouldn't even ask for it nor be angry at him and just suck it up as my own stupidity. The fact that he is sharing that story and asking if he is the asshole in the situation means his friend must have asked for it and got angry at him for refusing. That shows what kind of person the friend is. Shameless and won't take responsibility for his actions. Better off without people like that. It may seem like a small incident, but can you put your trust in someone like that in the future for something much more serious? Those kind of people aren't true friends...
I had a friend who once said he liked tig biddies, so I nearly died laughing when I heard this. It was an adult conversations with children nearby, so he chose not to be vulgar-his words, not mine.
As an actual 17-year-old girl, if I found out one of my friends was agreeing to meet up with full-grown dudes they met on Tinder, I would react the exact same way as that girl's brother and dad. And if my family did that to me, yeah I'd be embarrassed, but I'd get over it because if you're actually mature, a little embarrassment shouldn't be enough to ruin your life.
Exactly. She is willing to trick and humiliate any guy who wouldn’t have consented to a minor, so if she feels tricked and humiliated then its just karma, not to mention she could have been raped and murdered by any stranger she met so the fact that all she got was embarrassment she got off LUCKY
The umbrella guy gets 0/5 for me. It's impossible to stay dry sharing and umbrella. You were warned, why should I be punished? The friends were just be stubborn.
The umbrella one.. I would have done the same He warned his friend multiple times etc. But they didn't listen Kinda fits this "better safe than sorry" they could have gotten an umbrella or something by themselfs just incase
I have actually done that one before to two of my friends. If they don't value my opinion on the matter then I have no sympathy if they get screwed over later. My friends had to run in the rain. I laughed. They laughed too but later.
@Maple Leaf lol I didnt even know that. If the three are all straight dudes, that definitely wouldnt work. But I'm a guy that dont trust unbrellas to begin with. Rain jackets ftw
Ok but like, we’re just gonna ignore that a 17 year old girl was trying to get with older guys. Guys, in which could’ve ended up in JAIL because she lied about her age? I give him 2/5
Not even 2/5 1/5 for saving a dudes ass because this idiot wanted to date older guys without their knowledge. The girl gets 3/5 for being awful and wanting to risk other people's lives just for some sex.
...and how does tricking and humiliating her teach her that? The appropriate response would have been to let the parents know from the start. Not play a cruel joke on her.
FightingDuskstalker She knew what she was doing was wrong. If she didn’t she wouldn’t have tried to lie about her age. There was no teaching that could’ve been done, it was just straight giving her a taste of her own medicine at this point.
The rain story was definitely justified. They knew the forecast, STOPPED SOMEWHERE SO THE GUY COULD GET AN UMBRELLA, and they still insisted they were fine and didn't need it. It's on them that they didn't prepare themselves, they're adults. As far as the last story about tinder, I don't think OP was that in the wrong. OP potentially saved her sister, and kept her from ruining a guy's life because she was underage. The execution wasn't the greatest but her sister already didn't trust her as she told OP to mind her business when the tinder notification came up, then lied to her parents on where she was going and staying with. THAT'S SUPER DANGEROUS. To be honest, you should always let someone know who you're going out with and where if meeting for the first time so that if anything happens to you, you have someone who can inform police about the who and where.
Interesting that you’re assuming the last OP was an older sister, ’cause I assumed OP was an older brother. Does it change your view thinking of OP as a guy? Because for me it kinda did when I now realized that they might not be. Somehow I feel more okay with an older sister doing it rather than an older brother.
@Jennifer Wettervik I'm pretty sure the author is female, as they said "my friend was a male model". I doubt a male would feel the need to add "male" in that situation. I personally don't think it makes a difference if it's an older brother or sister.
Coming out on the same day as your brother's wedding? Drama should be kept to a minimum, it's not about you so you shouldn't bring any attention to yourself. If you wanted to come out to the family, you should have done so earlier.
luvondarox puts it well I think the wedding issue would best be resolved by making the ultimatum that if he really wants to bring his boyfriend, he needs to come clean to his family to get that madness out of the way BEFORE the wedding. Not during. of course they could also just go as friends
Really idiots? If for his parents a coming out is a 'drama' they're shitty parents. Wtf I hate people lmaoooo y'all are being ridiculous. If I brought my boyfriend to any place where my family is celebrating without warning them they wouldn't mind, as I'm an adult. So, that is what should happen even if decided to date a girl. Please use some better excuse for your rampant homophobia next time. I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE. It's only a big deal because they decide to make it one. If he's dating someone, it's not "drama" or a big deal or attention seeking ALL HE EVER DID WAS DATE SOMEONE LMAOOOOOOOOOOO KILL ME
@@justagirl9224 Yea but the whole thing would be on the guy's wedding day. This is about him and the bride, NOT the brother. Gay or not, it's still not about him. I agree that the part where it causes "drama" is horrible, that shouldn't be a problem. And he and even supports his brother so much to the fact that he'd even cut the people who have a problem with it out of his life. If that's homophobic then idk what is. Also his parents already know and are really supportive just throwing that out there... Not trying to be homophobic/hateful or anything, I fully support it! Just don't do it on you're siblings wedding day... Weddings are stressful and it's just not the right time to do so. That's all we're trying to say.
@@ZooTycoon2witchdoc1 I mean yeah, sleeping on top of him shirtless is pretty weird, but at the same time there are family's that do much worse. Not to mention 1 weird occurrence doesn't make the whole relationship disgusting
I think it's just an overall misunderstanding. I personally find it gross when families are too close. Especially when it could be misconstrued as something sexual. Incest is just a huge no-no, so I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. I think it was a natural reaction for the gf to be grossed out and try to put a stop to something she saw as an immediate red flag. But afterwards, the bf should have tried to speak with her about their differences. His inability to acknowledge how odd that situation is kind of unfair to the gf. She deserved a chance to 1) explain herself, 2) apologize, 3) agree to try to accept it 4) inform him that it's way too uncomfortable/inappropriate/etc PS, I had a similar situation once but handled it differently, although I still called immediate attention to it
@@missxspencer1538 I agree, I was surprisingly shocked when he said 0/5 for the guy. I found that story extremely uncomfortable especially since the brother is 15.
A coming out is, for many people, a significant social event. To do so at a wedding is like announcing your own engagement at someone's wedding, or announcing a pregnancy at someone's wedding, or using the wedding to announce a big fat job promotion, or that you won $50,000 in the lotto. It's scene-stealing. The groom-to-be was right, and also probably should be a bit miffed at his brother for putting him through this unneeded grief.
Precisely. Coming out is a HUGE FREAKING DEAL and someone ELSE'S day is not the platform for it. The bride and groom did not ask to be pulled into a major incident and it's not fair to ask them to!
Scene? More like family-splitting war- Ok, ok a bit of an exaggeration, *maybe.* But if I can prevent b*tching at my wedding in a civil way, fine. Might not seem like the best way to look at it, but I will take my butthole points to avoid family drama anytime.
As a bisexual woman, I am APPALLED at the brother. You’re afraid coming out is going to be a massive family thing, so you pick your brothers wedding? No. You know damn well that is social upstaging at the best, and likely to ruin one of the happiest days of his life at the worst. Not to mention the shitstorm the boyfriend would have to deal with. OP, you are not the asshole. OP’s brother, you are. OP’s brother’s boyfriend, consider a new SO.
For the umbrella guy, I give 0/5 buttholes. You warned them about the rain, they didn't listen to you. It's their problem they got soaked and they don't have to depend on you.
For the umbrella guy it's a lose-lose situation because either he doesn't share and his friends say he's a butthole or he does share and they learn nothing. Plus now they all get soaked trying to fit 3 people under 1 umbrella or he has to choose between friends to share the umbrella. There is no win in that scenario it all ends bad. As for the catfishing brother I agree with what he did. Not only did the sister put herself in a situation where she could be harmed or murdered but she also potentially put someone else in a situation that could ruin their life. That's 2 people who could face life changing (or ending) consequences because of her stupid decision. What happened to her was possibly the best case scenario since she could have easily become another missing person. But, admittedly, we don't know his sister and this could have made it worse. Or she could even be one of those people who only learn through being humiliated (because frankly your parents yelling at you when you get home is almost completely ineffective). And in my opinion I don't think he told his friends to laugh at her. He probably just wanted the opinion of somebody uninvolved to get a better perspective. Either way it's my opinion that whether he's a butthole or not his sister is an infinitely bigger butthole for possibly ruining 2 lives. For all we know she could've been planning to blackmail some guy. Doubt it but like I said we don't know her.
I think the brother was a bit of an ass with the public call out. But his sister could have gotten some poor guy a statutory rape charge by lying about her age, which is fucked. And then there's the fact that she was meeting a strange man and NOT TELLING ANYONE. That's how you end up on a milk carton. Hopefully she was at least telling one friend.
I feel like if you tried to talk to a teenager about the dangers of online dating they would brush you off. Sister is lucky that all she got was just embarrassment and not ending up sexually assaulted or killed by a stranger.
If I were the last guy and was called “cruel” or a “f-ing a-hole” by female friends, I’d ask them if they’d call a 22 year old guy an a-hole for sleeping with a 17 year old girl if she lied to him about how old she was?
There's already a news article about this. A 23 year old male met a girl who said she was 18 when she was really 14. The guy ended up being on the sex offenders registry due to the girl faking her age.
@@avengermkii7872 yeah some girls are absolutely crazy, once I had a match on tinder were she turned out to be 12. Photos had lots of filters and looked pretty flat but of course you can't state that. Luckily I never met her
OP thought it was all a joke. I feel she didn’t take it with the seriousness it deserved. OP should have gone alone and been firm but loving to her younger sister and that would have been much better
yeah but at the end of the day, he was being a bad friend just so he could be right. Like, he probably got his point across within 30 seconds of heavy rain, instead he decided to let his friend get completely soaked, who knows how sick his friends are going to be now. He let his friends know that they cant count on him.
Agreed. They're an adult, they should know how to take care of themselves. They made the decision not to buy the umbrella, they should accept the consequences.
"you can guarantee that your sister isnt going to trust you with anything" bruh you can also guarantee that his sister is a minor and that she broke her families trust by lying
I mean, I get the groom’s side. The day is about him and his fiancée. His brother could have came out to his family a long time ago and they could have easily weeded out the homophobes before. A wedding isn’t a place to come out, especially one that isnt yours. He is just gonna cause drama.
Bro I disagree with ur judgement on the umbrella dude. Its 100% on the friends for not getting an umbrella when warned multiple times edit: yall it has almost been 2 years u can stop replying its ok
Raven Decker I completely agree with you there. They didn’t want to be prepaired and/or to take precautions. It’s def on the friends. He was trying to help them learn a lesson, it was tough-love.
Eh they were all butt holes in that story. The friends for not listening and dude for not helping out even a little when they clearly stated two people could fit comfortably under the umbrella.
I share umbrellas all the time and its annoying, i agree. The people that think hes an asshole are probably the assholes here. Sharing an umbrella is so annoying.
@@kitchenroam1509 i agree to cause its hard to walk and you both have to be really close together and i just dony like it and the friends know about how hard it rains in japan and they didnt listen
Yeah, I disagree with R/ on this one. It wasn't this dudes responsibility, and he warned his friends of such. His friends are idiots for being sorry rather than safe.
For the rain story let me rephrase this for all of you: I warned my friends it was going to rain I offered to buy them umbrellas I told them I didn’t want to share Repeat They get mad when I warned them exactly what happened 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
Dudd I give you 2.5of 5 and friends also the same If you can share umbrella without getting wet you could share And if they were somewhat close friends you could have bought them the umbrella told them that in the next few days if they use it they should pay you(if it is as bad as you say) You could have also enjoyed the rain if you had normal immune system This was not a way to handle this well It's like they are contractors or something not friends
*THIS* That guy is not an asshole for what he did. There's no reason what so ever as to why he needs to be responsible for someone else's stupidity and ignorance.
I don't think men should be shamed for platonic/familial affection. Touch is really good for you, especially after trauma. Humans are social animals. True, we all require different levels of social and physical interaction, but it's a biological need for almost everyone.
In England its normal to do things like kiss family members on the cheek and give very firm hand shakes too and have a good relation with your brother. Not very strange
Me and brother are a bit over 5 years apart and took baths together til I turned 11, I'm a girl so after I was about 9 I started wearing a bathing suit. He just wasn't ready to take baths alone. I never thought it was weird til people told it was but I don't see anything wrong with it.
Okay, so let me get this straight: The older brother in the last story is "cruel, a bit excessive and awful". That's the gist of this, right? But let's put this into a realistic fashion, which isn't too far off from the scenario that played out in the story. My little sister is meeting up with an older man, without my knowledge, without my parent's knowledge. She has lied to my parents because she knows damn well that a 17 year old has NO business going on a date with a man in his 20s. She meets up with him, agrees to go with him to his place. She's never seen again. And there are no leads, because her friend has no idea where she is, and her brother and her parents thought she was at her friend's house, so there's that little dead end. They can't do anything about her social media, because her phone is missing to find out who "Jim" is, who is nonexistent in the eyes of the authorities, because they don't even know about this 17 year old CHILD having a Tinder account to begin with. But big brother, who actually did the protective brotherly thing, gets 4/5 buttholes, for basically doing the brotherly thing. ANYTHING will humiliate a 17 year old, especially if it involves parents. Even if it was brought up in the confines of the family home, she'll still be humiliated. What they taught her was a pretty valuable lesson. She just knew she was meeting Jim, had no idea who Jim really was beyond a couple of online chats and a profile on a hookup app. Everything that was laid out to her for this "date", is the exact scenario in which you hear those wonderful words, "...and she has been missing ever since that day..." 4/5 buttholes. Are you catching where you're wrong on this one? Not every situation needs the "cookie cutter" do it lightly Full House episode lesson of the day. That kind of scenario, I say they were pretty tame compared what they could have done. If It were me, I would've brought the brother friend to meet her, taken her to his apartment, and threatened to kill her and tie her up, and let he wallow and cry until the parents and big brother come in so she catches on that, "Yeah! THIS could've happened to you!!!" If you ask me, little sister get 4/5 buttholes for being a dumbass and potentially ending her life if her brother hadn't stepped in.
@GPU Gambon Hi there. Would you mind elaborating what you mean by on purpose? Not being sarcastic or anything, I just wanted a little more detail to the statement. Are you saying she's doing it for attention?
@GPU Gambon I see what you mean. I personally think it's a combination of the two. She's stupid, which makes her naive. Glad your sister had much better sense than the one in this story. And I agree, as mad as she is with her brother and parents, hopefully she realized how lucky she was that it didn't go another route.
If they hadn't made a scene about it she would have brushed him off and said they were overreacting and "that doesn't happen in real life." Teens can be very perceptive and make great choices. They can be knowledgeable and conscientious. They also have difficulty understanding that in the long term a lot of things that are horrible or embarrassing to them don't really matter, and the long term consequences for their actions can be life changing or severe. They haven't live long enough to judge time very well.
I was totally with you until the second half of last paragraph. Jesus fucking christ, she needs to learn her lesson, not get mentally scarred and develop a fear of intimacy. And I would be really concerned with my model friend (or any friend who wasn't an accomplished actor) if he was able to OVERPOWER the kid, tie her up, and threaten her all without cracking the façade and crying or apologizing because he felt so bad about what he was doing to her.
The umbrella fella isn't really an asshole. He warned them several times that it was going to rain, he reminded his friends to maybe buy an umbrella and they refused. Serves them right for being so stubborn.
You can read the comments under the post, one of the commenters had a talk with OPs ex-buddies, and he didn't even let them buy an umbrella because he was in a hurry (while he bought his umbrella beforehand without telling them). So he pretty much gloated over his "friends" misfortune. Not to mention that being right and not being an asshole is not the same thing, he had enough space under umbrella for all 3 of them, if they squeezed just a bit, so he is just a petty butt for not letting them in after they learned their lesson.
@@ineedabreak6063 I mean, at least he could stay behind them to get some protection from the rain. According to the description, the guy literally didn't even let them close to him during the whole ordeal and made fun of them along the way.
I’m not sure if it’s *very* but ya maybe he should have come out before and then brought the bf. Like a least kinda warned that he had a bf so it wouldn’t really be the center of attention
Well, it didn't sound like he wanted to come out necessarily, he just wanted to spend that day with people he loved. He would have to explain it to the family, though, that's true, but... if he really didn't want to come out so early and did want to enjoy the company of his boyfriend, maybe he could've gone and pretended the bf was his FRIEND? It was the first thing I though of, and it could've been a compromise. I mean, I wouldn't consider a good day wasted if I had to go out to eat with my wife and didn't have a chance to kiss her, I'd still have fun because I love her for who she is and we were actually best friends for 3 years before dating.
@@aristotlepovey9866 erm no, the brother is trying to help him out and the way it was described in the story he seemed to have tried to handle it well as it was said that he CALMLY explained to his brother the situation. now so that you understand how much of an asshole you are, what you are saying is the exact equivalent of us being friends and one day I allow, as a favour, for you to use my credit card for... I dunno, go to the movies, so you immediately assume that you can use my credit card for anything you want, at any time you want. no, you can't there's a time and place, you need to ask me to use it. when it comes to the brothers, OP was obviously supportive of his brother sexuality and wants him to be happy and not live his life in fear of his family. THAT IS NOT A FREE PASS to do it at the WORST POSSIBLE DATE EVER. It's a wedding not a family get together. It's a day for joy and happiness over the union of two people who love each other and his brother action would lead to be all but that, it would be a day with in fighting, with people shouting and crying and cussing each other DOES THAT SEEM LIKE AN APPROPRIATE DAY TO DO THAT? what next? you're gonna defend the right to wear bright yellow overalls with a clown wig to a funeral? wear a wedding dress in a wedding without being the bride? Everything has a time and place, and I'm not saying the guy had the intention of causing harm. But he sure has hell has bad timing.
I was very divided on what to think with the brother. I know coming out is a stressful thing to do cause u don’t know how your friends and family will take it. But if OP’s family is as conservative as he says, there will most definitely be some drama. Like what OP said, he would support his brother’s decision on any other day, but on his wedding day, where the main focus is the happiness of the couple. It’s their big day. I think both parties could’ve handled it a bit better. I would give 1 butthole to OP because it’s a tough decision, and he does feel regret about it, and I would give 1 butthole to the brother because it took him a bit to realize the potential fallout that could happen on what’s supposed to be his brother’s happiest day.
my only thought is that maybe op could have suggested that his brother sit down with the family in the next two weeks before his wedding and tell them then and then bring his bf to the wedding
7:03 should be re-titled: AITA for saying I'll support my brother coming out to the entire family any day EXCEPT my wedding day? The poor OP is seeing it backwards on this one, not an a-hole at all for wanting his wife to have her big day without drama and distraction from the main event...he wasn't even putting it as his big day or their big day etc. I loved how he wanted it perfect for his wife and other than that one event is happy to support his brother. He sounds like a very kind and considerate person!
He even said in the story that if the brother had done it before the wedding, he'd know who to cut out. He was going above and beyond already. The only thing that could maybe be done is telling the brother that if he comes out beforehand then he can bring the partner to the wedding - even help him do it. That's the only thing I'd add, if the op hadn't already offered that.
Not really a step dad if he didn't get merried to the mom plue he wasn't paying bills at there home so why he thought he had any say so is beyond me plue step dads or in this case the bf needs to know that just because your dating or married to the mother does not make the father father to that kid so you have no right to tell them what to do and op is 23 like step dad needs to sit his ass down somewhere the same goes for the rest of the family they gone feel real shitty when he has no relationship with op because he F it up
For some reason I was shocked when Rslash said that the umbrella person was the A**hole. I think what they did was fine and I don’t think that the friends should have been jerks like dude let them get an umbrella. The reason I was shocked is because I usually have the same opinion as RSlash Edit- tf I made this comment like two years ago and people actually commented on it lol
Yh i was completely shocked too bcuz something like this happened to me before.... Sometimes me and my friends got to the park and hang out and buy lunch from the vendors and shop One time i told one of my friends to bring their own lunch bcuz i didn't know if the vendors were gonna be there. They all brought their lunches with them except hers. She said she wanted some of each of our own lunches bcuz she said she deserved them and that we should've warned her about the shops on strike. I was freaking furious but i was well known for being a generous person but today i had only brought lunch that could feed one person. We all scoffed and told her that we did warn her and that we're not sharing bcuz we didn't bring enough. She threw a fricking tantrum but we all just sat on the picnic basket and watched her embarass herself infront of tons of ppl. When she saw her scheme wasn't gonna work she left and screamed that she's gonna join the cool kids and that we were all buttholes for not sharing when clearly told her before that we weren't sharing but maybe tasting each others foods. I stopped being friends with her after that. I stopped speakin
My counter claim to r/'s opinion on the umbrella story is: Op: I going to start saving and investing money and you should too. Friend: oh I don't need to, I can just do it later. Op: (repeatedly) you should save now, it will definitely help later. The friend doesn't have enough money and starts begging for money from op. OP doesn't have to share his money because his friend made a bad choice.
False equivalency. Giving someone money means you have less money. Letting another person under your two person umbrella means almost nothing. He could have fit one of them with no consequences to himself.
@@godmagnus consequences or not, it's their own damn fault for not getting an umbrella after OP literally asked them repeatedly if they needed it. They knew he wasn't going to share, so he didn't have no obligation to give them shit even if this was looking at his morals. If I ain't gonna share, I ain't gonna share. They're adults, they should've learned this years ago by their parents. They ignored the warnings, and they got shit on by nature for it. That's like going out nude at the beach after watching the weather forecast tell you that it's going to be raining today.
@@tacobanana6538/videos And that's not even mentioning the fact that no matter how big of an umbrella I'm carrying, it's uncomfortable to share it with anyone. You'll have to be hugging each other real tight, walk at the same pace (somehow I'm out of sync with most people), but worst of all, you're more than likely to both get half-wet since umbrellas have "poles" in the *middle* and so the "prime holder" will have to stay in the middle, meaning that while they technically could fit another person under it, that person would have to be sawed in half lengthways with each half placed to each side. I don't feel I would deserve to get half-wet if I can avoid it completely and the other person could too, but decided not to.
FuturePants literally every single college student ever complaining about debt is just like dipshit why tf you go to college to get a degree in archaeology when you know that’s useless
Imagine having an affair, hiding the child with a family member, disowning the child by saying they were adopted, then when the child wants to meet their brothers and sisters tell them that they are being cut off from the family and out of their life.
Tinder brother isn't an asshole. She put herself in a very dangerous situation. I wish my siblings talked me out if some stupid things when I was a teen.
@yerowww666 But the problem is that she lied to everyone and kept it a secret, a) If it turned out to be some psycho, no one would know what happened to her because they didn't know about her tinder. b) If it turned out that the guy was legit and he was being lied to, then he could face jail time for trusting a minor who just lied to him to have sex. How is that fair?
@yerowww666 But so far nothing suggests that the family is stopping her from dating. Just stopping her from dating older men that would get them into legal trouble. We cannot make the assumption that they stopped her from dating at all. As for your b answer, that does not help the situation. At all.
@Alyssa Richardson Yes, that's true on a biological standpoint. But that is the law. If a few months isn't going to change her opinion on doing this, then she should do it when everyone is of legal age and no one could get in trouble for this. She could potentially get a man jail time if they slept together because she is a minor. Even if she doesn't need the protection from the law, we have to think about the other side too. How fair is it that a man has to suffer jail time because of a little white lie that a "mature" person would do? I'm not saying all 18 year olds are instantly more mature, but that is how the legal framework is.
10:09, well, technically, there needs to be 5 people at a wedding, the two actually getting married, the registrar, and the two witnesses, otherwise it's technically not considered a legitimate wedding in the eyes of the law. Although I agree with the sentiment behind the statement
One of my friends years ago called up an escort. Having just moved to that city, he decided to have some fun. When he opened his door, his little sister was there. Very awkward, and that is how he found out his sister was a call girl. I asked him... "how was she?"
The umbrella guy was very much in the right. That's like asking someone what they want for lunch, them saying "nothing" and then they get pissed at you for not ordering their favorite food for them anyways.
The catfishing was def not worth 4/5. Maybe 2/5 for the public confrontation but she's actually committing crimes and endangering herself in massively stupid ways. She's lucky she didn't have a grandma like mine, I'd have been physically driven out of the restaurant like an unruly sheep to a high speed, high volume harangue and probably have a shoe or two thrown at me for good measure. R.I.P Abuelita. A good one, but a mean one.
That's what I think his nay-sayers are ignoring. This girl is committing crimes and putting herself in serious danger sneaking around with grown men. I was stupid like her at that age and the damage of those decisions should never be underestimated.
As a note: If she so readily met with "Jim," how many other men has she been meeting? How long will her luck last regarding a literal gd kidnapping/rape/etc?
Also, she wasn't even called out on it in front of her peers, they were strangers at a restaurant and her family. I think the lesson was well worth it, there are too many creeps on sites like that and even if she meets decent guys she is still potentially screwing them over by lying about her age.
@@im_bchen I think she was as well. Creeps are definitely common, I encountered many of them, hell I'm in my 20s now and I still encounter them online as do my female friends... Catfishes are easy to spot if you know to actually look for em and know signs.
@@JezebelNeverDied statisticsshow what crimes are you on about? Or maybe I should be asking what country you're in, coz here in England the age of consent is 16, so yeah she lied about her age by a couple years but I'm failing to see the crimes here. Also "she's putting herself in danger"? Who isn't when they meet some random people on the net?
I’m a mom and honestly if my son came forward and told me my daughter was not only underage and on a dating app but also lied about where she was to meet a stranger, I would be livid and definitely be meeting her at that restaurant to teach her a lesson on top of other consequences. She’s lucky the person she was meeting was her dad and brother. I think her brother absolutely did the right thing and I’m glad she’s safe.
Tegan ~ I totally agree. As a mum I'd do the catfishing too if it hadn't already been done! I thought the brother and the parents played the entire thing spot on. She was so naive she had no idea the danger she was putting herself into...and also the adult men she was meeting up with too!
@@im_bchen Bruh, what's more important to you? Someone's ego or their life/mental health/ physical health? That girl could have been kidnapped, raped, sold into slavery, killed--and you're worried about her _ego?????_ Pride heals, death or emotional and physical trauma from rape/kidnapping/sex trafficking does not. I understand you fear a girl's psych as 17 is a very crucial year for their self esteem, body image, and development. But being victim to such human cruelty is WAY worse than getting your feelings hurt for a little while. On top of that, she was doing serious law breaking. A 22 year old man having sex with a 19 year old woman is okay. But a 17 year old woman is a jail sentence and life record to some rando who could be a non-pedophilic good dude.
It's not what he did that's the problem, it's how he did it. It should have stayed between the two of them and maybe their parents. Involving so many other people is humiliating and pretty much guarantees that she will never trust him again. He has just permanently alienated his own sister.
@@steveelproBut in the end of the day he still lost his sister. She will never see him in the same way again, and probably resent him for the rest of their lives. And it’s all his fault. While I’m not disagreeing that what she was doing was absolutely wrong, I’m also not gonna defend the brothers actions. She could’ve, and was very well on track to, ruin a man’s life. But the brother should’ve kept this as a family matter, and resolved it within their home by telling their parents. By doing what he did, especially out in public is one of the most embarrassing things that could happen to a person.
you're a dumbass. when it comes to teaching someone a lesson it's not about what you think they deserve, it's about making sure they understand _why_ what they're doing is wrong, and that they completely grasp the gravity of the consequences their actions could cause. public shaming does none of that, all it does is create resentment and anger which could eventually lead to rebellious outbursts and worse behavior. I swear you people who think the point of a punishment is to make a person feel as bad as possible are the reason some kids go down some terrible paths.
@@TALKINGtac0 In this case, there are no medium consequences for her to learn from. Most people, who make mistake of that kind, don't live to tell the story. Some mistakes you can make only once in your life, and getting potentially raped/murdered by stranger is one of them.
@@ceu160193 I agree that the consequences here could have been fatal. But I stand by my point that public humiliation is not something that's gonna make her understand that. It's just going to make her resent her family for making her feel like a fool in front of strangers (granted, she did that herself but she won't see it that way). The best solution here would have been for the brother to tell his parents and for the parents to talk to her and give her some other punishment.
I don’t think OP was the A-hole for cat fishing his sister, she shouldn’t have lied about her age and she shouldn’t be trying to have intercourse with adult men, that being said it isn’t brother’s place to confront her about that, he should’ve left it to dad to take care of it at the restaurant, he did enough catching her trying to sleep with an adult. And bringing friend into it wasn’t right either
1) Her lying about her age is something the OP could have warned her about. 2) She would still go on with the sex thing regardless of her being of legal age most probably. 3) The brother was the best person to help her if hiding what she was doing was part of the plan, except he decided to have fun and told his friends. 4) The confrontation should have never been in a public place, she should have never left the house and the "talk" should have been had hours before she left. 5) Leaving it to the Dad might have been better but it is not clear how the relationship with her dad was. 6) Bring the friend was not the problem, telling the friend what it was for was. But I agree it would be better to not have aquaintance in the mix. 7) He was an AHole for spreading the word to his friends of what his sister was doing just for fun.
Miguel Melo Are you fucking kidding me “Just for Fun” if you didn’t know that is illegal a felony actually and I agree with most of the other stuff the brother shouldn’t have told his friends and it should’ve been in a private place but really that’s insane that girl is Super irresponsible who tf would do that is she really that desperate
Jesus, he went waaaaaaaay too far with it. He humiliated her and totally violated her boundaries. If he was worried about her, he should have had a heart to heart with her or even told her parents so they could talk to her. This was completely cruel. And then he and his friends laughed at it....? Smh.
I posted this as a comment but whatever, For the last story I don’t think I would give OP 4/5 buttholes, here’s why: you were right saying that he went too far, +1 butthole; he did it in public, like what the heck dude, you could have just brought your sister back home and talked to her about it there, you did not need to do it in public, +1 butthole; you laughed about it with your friends, all the stuff before I might understand as brotherly love and protection, but apparently, you thought it was funny +2 buttholes; I guess it was with good intent and you were trying to teach her a lesson -1.25 buttholes. Total: 2.75 buttholes
I think the tinder thing was perfect for the sister. It showed her how easily someone could lie about who they are and with how naive she was, hurt her. Sure, she felt like an idiot. But she was being one.
R/ was right when he said he took it too far, though. I think letting it get to the restaurant, especially, was that step too far. He should have kept it private. It's very likely she's not going to trust him with things any more, during a time when she really needs her family. What else is she going to do and how much more carefully is she going to hide it now rather than if he had actually had a proper talk with her? Hopefully he was able to still turn it around, but it's tough at that age. It feels even weirder for me since 16 is legal in my country, so in this the sister would be able to have sex without it being a problem. She still definitely shouldn't go meeting any guys from online without at least telling people in any case, even if she wasn't a minor :/
@Christopher yrump - I know as a teen I was called out publically for something that while not dangerous, was just very embarassing (it involved looking up certain types of sexual acts - nothing illegal but it was on my older sister's pc and I hadn't figured out to delete my history). It left me feeling unable to open up to anyone about anything in terms of sex as I came to see it as a very embarassing thing. I learned to get better at what I looked up and to hide it well. It has literally taken until my late twenties to even try to learn to be open again with the people that matter. I always think how much better it would have been if my sister had spoken to me in private so I would have known I'd have someone to open up about these things. We've since spoken a lot about this but, as I said, in my late twenties rather than my late teens. While this girl hopefully takes home the lesson about internet safety, it does mean it's very likely she won't trust those around her with important things. It's how people often work. There are better ways to do these things and public humilation is not one of them. I even noted your 'at least for a while'. The second time, she's likely just going to be better at hiding it.
I think the brother and father both lack self-knowledge and are hypocritical. They both probably would have loved doing the same thing at the age of 17. Thus the response shouldn't be humiliation but a reasonable discussion where the possible pitfalls are explained. (They are also misogynic as they have the mindset that girls are something that needs to be protected)
The japan one - I'd let them get a little wet, then share my umbrella... Hey - they *are* your friend after all right? They can buy you a drink later as thanks!
THANK YOU! I completely agree. Almost every other comment is saying that the OP is not the asshole for not sharing, which i can agree with if the people weren't your friends or someone close. I would let them get rained on a little as punishment for not heading my warnings and then share so they don't get completely soaked. It also might come back to bite OP in the butt one day if OP ever needs one of them to share something with OP and they refuse because of the "umbrella incident".
@@grimday666 them being friends is irrelevant, their friend warned them and they ignored him, another comment gave this as the perfect example A: Are you hungry, want something to eat B: No, I'm fine, I'm not hungry A: Are you sure you're not hungry, I'm not going to share my food if your saying you're not hungry and don't order B: I'm sure I'm not hungry A-Gets their food B: Oh, that looks good I'll just have a bite A: No, this is my food you could have gotten your own Dude warned them that rain where they are is bad, and kept insisting they get a tool to keep them from dealing with discomfort and they brushed him off on it
@@egg3073 This is inaccurate. Food is a limited resource that costs you something when sharing it. The umbrella (OP explicitly mentioned 2 people could EASILY fit under it) could have been shared at no cost. OP might have had a bit of discomfort, but that is outweighed by being drenched and potentially ill (this is Japan's monsoon, not a light drizzle)
@@zoremhualngo5708 Yeah it can fit two people but OP warned them and told them the consequences of not heeding his warning. When the situation happened, he followed through with what he said was going to do when warning them, so it's their fault. It's like if someone told someone.... Wait, that comparison probably will be inaccurate in your eyes. Anyways, it doesn't matter that the umbrella can fit two people. OP warned them and followed through with what he said he would do in that situation. In fact, the two friends were warned multiple times in advance to get umbrellas, so it doesn't matter that the umbrella can fit 2 people.
It's a major asshole move. If you are comfortable enough to come out at the wedding, you should do it before so your sibling can have their proper wedding
Why should it matter? Personally of it was my wedding I wouldn't care in fac t I would consider 2 blessings on one day and it would be in everyone a bit closer and I be happy to share it with them
Flixytip because a wedding day is special and meant for it to be the bride and grooms day, it’s rude to attract the attention onto you when you’re supposed to be there for your brother and his wife, not to draw attention to yourself
Flixytip They made it clear in the story that it would be a problem with their family. They don't need to worry about a family brawl at their wedding. Like the groom said, if he would just come out earlier they could weed through the people in their family they still would talk to.
Yeah There’s a few things you don’t do Propose at someone else’s wedding Announce engagement or baby at someone’s wedding And come out at a wedding Basically anything that might be seen as a big announcement or something overly exciting
@@VariedadSandimelon People don't wanna listen to someone's warning, it's on them. I think the umbrella guy taught them a valuable lesson of 'being safe than sorry'. My ma always told me that it's better to have something and not need it, than need it and not have it.
@@VariedadSandimelon he wasn't an ass "i'm not fucking sharing this, if you don't buy yourself one, it's going to rain dumbass" "nah i'm fine" *starts raining* "bro please"... Op wasn't an ass, the friends were entitled
The one about the umbrella reminds me of a similar experience I had a few years ago: I live north of San Francisco, living an hour away, my parents always used it as a "special outing" because we really couldn't afford to go somewhere else. It was mostly window shopping with each of us being allowed to pick one thing from a shop as our "Christmas present" and use our Christmas money to buy anything else we wanted. We would usually just walk around, ride the cable cars, go to Chinatown, stuff like that. My friend had never done that so, one Summer, I decided to give her the tour and as neither of us had cars she convinced two of her friends to join us and one of them would be the driver. Her two friends didn't live there but went to school there so I thought it would be great to have two extra guides. Before we went, I told my friend that the biggest rule when going into "The City" (as most of us call it) was, no matter the time of year or weather, to wear layers. San Fran being a bay city, despite being Cali, even when it's sunny it gets cold and can be even colder when windy. This means Winter was easy because of how foggy or cloudy it got people prepared better, but Summer was a trap because you'd expect it to be warm but most likely wouldn't be. So I went wearing a pair of sunglasses, a tank top, long sleeve shirt, vest with inner pockets (number two rule when going into the city, have your phone and wallet on your person and not in your bag or pants pockets, pro-tip from a friend, put your important cards and/or cash in your sock or shoe, no way anyone will think to check there), jacket, long pants, and brought a scarf, hat, and umbrella and a pair of shorts in my bag just in case. If I got too warm I could easily remove stuff (and switch into the shorts in a bathroom somewhere) and shove them into my bag, and add things back if I got to cold again. My friend only half listened to me coming in jeans, a shirt, an over shirt and hat. Before we left her house to catch a bus to her friend's, I asked her several times if she didn't want to change into something else or add more layers, or to at least bring a bag with layers in it just in case, but she just shrugged me off as her friends told her it was supposed to be sunny so she didn't need to go overboard. On the drive there, the two friends laughed at me the whole way, saying that I was being ridiculous. One of them was wearing a shirt and sweater and shorts, the other was wearing pants but a tanktop and flipflops. I told them to laugh all they wanted, but I was prepared and they'd regret it later. When we got to the city, they mentioned they had never walked across the Golden Gate so said that we should. I said "sure." We parked on the city side figuring we'd walk across and then back before heading into the city proper. It was nice and sunny and might have been warm if there wasn't so much wind coming in off the chilly bay. And because we were walking across the bridge we got the full force of the wind, rather then it being dampened a bit by buildings. They were all shivering and complaining the whole way. I had to start removing clothes part way as I was getting too warm! XD Halfway across they couldn't handle it anymore and asked if we could turn around. I shrugged and we did. When we got back to the car, they were like "we can't believe how cold it was, how did you know Harley?" And I was like "seriously? I used to come into the city once a year with my parents and my mom always made me wear this many layers. You two go to school here every day, how do you not know this?" And one of them sheepishly was like "well, we spend all day in a temperature controlled classroom." I told them they were idiots again, and we swung by a tourist shop so they could all buy sweatshirts, the exact reason why mom always made me layer up before we went to the city because she didn't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a blatant tourist trap of a sweatshirt when I had perfectly good sweatshirts at home.
Honestly, the last one. i think the brother did the right thing. if I found out my sister was dating grown men while In highs school i would've been very pissed and probably would have done something similar.
Jesus Christ. How would you feel if somebody went on your device, saw something very personal to you, and decided to do something like this to you? For example, your sister sees that you are on social medias with a lot of chicks. You are currently 17 when this happens, but your sister is 21. She sets up a profile in social media and catfishes you. She meets you at a public area and breaks the news to you in a cocky and victorious voice. Knowing that you have a problem, you end up sobbing, screaming and run out of the restaurant. If something happens to you, it's on her. The same goes for the douche in this story. Never mess with family's private lives like this. He could have at least spoke to her about it. I mean, for fuck sakes. How could anyone do that to a family member? Then think they are right for doing it? I can tell you something right now, he lost her trust for many years to come. This was the wrong way to deal with that. On the other hand...Thinking about it more, If she did go on a date with an older guy, and the guy had no negative intent, she could have gotten a man in serious trouble for nothing. Could have ruined his life, in fact. Or, as I know a many feminists will try to already say, she could have been hurt, raped or killed by a man. Though, I find the likelihood of this to be much lower... I find it much more possible that she would want sex more than the man in this situation. You would be surprised how many people are just trying to find an actual relationship on tinder, not just sex. This topic is highly controversial, as he did it there, he could have potentially saved her from being raped or hurt, or very possibly saved a man from having his life ruined. However, he lost her trust for a great sum of time. She will learn to forgive him though. On the other hand, If he just talked to her, or revealed that she was actually going on a catfished date with an older man, she would not be in public, so the possibility of her talking about it is increased. However, she will still be upset with you for exposing her infront of her parents. Lastly, If he had done nothing, he would be a total douche. Sorry, obligations as a brother are high. You have to protect your siblings from things like this. She would not have been upset with him, but much more damage could have been done. A man could have been arrested on false charges of rape or sexual assault, or even statutory rape, which would have been a true allegation, provided it was discovered before she turned 18. Sometimes, there is no right answer. You just have to make a decision with the choices you have. He may have made the right decision, or he may not have. Who is to say what would have happened if any other choice was made? All I know is, as a brother, he made the right choice in doing something about it.
Some people don't want to accept responsibility for their actions. The other two knew the risk but figured they'd shun it onto OP. 90% of the problems in America could be solved if people would be responsible enough to accept the consequences of their actions. Instead they want some else (usually the government) to do it for them and want to blame others.
6:55 Biiiitch what? 0/5 He said they would not be allowed to use it multiple times and urged them to get one. It's not OP's fault if his friends are stupid. This same situation happened before with a girl taking her sibling's food and you gave OP 0/5.
6:47 Yo rslash. I too would have done the same thing. I mean, they did not heed his warnings, and since they had made their bed, now they gotta lay in it. So, if you agree, do what you want, like,dislike, I don't care.
Same. If I was the friend being warned and I didn't listen, I'd be more ashamed of myself for my own ignorance. Maybe we're not getting the whole story, but with what we have, I'd be embarrassed if I acted like that towards a friend that previously tried to help me and I actively ignored their warnings
Not to mention the sister met a complete stranger and planned to stay the night based off of profile pics... She could've been kidnapped, raped, and/or murdered
Agreed. Bringing the parents in like that *could* have been too much. But depends on the family. So I won't deduct anything there. But they did a good thing imho
I’m a 17 year old girl myself and I ABSOLUTELY agree. Not only does she need to know how dangerous it is to go home with strange men, but she’s making them unknowingly engage in pedophilia if they’re just nice dudes looking for a cute girl. I literally don’t know any girls my age who would be shitty enough to try this except the school thots
The sister one with Tinder is kind of tricky. 1. If she did do something with an older guy (18 or over) wouldn't that guy get in trouble? Depending where she is, she's still a minor and could get the dude in serious trouble. 2. The brother and father didn't need to do that to her in public though. The proper thing would have been to take her home and scold her there. I know they want her to be safe and all, but at the same time, that should have been a private convo. So its kind of a 40 - 60/50 - 50 thing here
Depends on the age of consent. In Sweden the age of consent is 15 and most wouldn't react to a 17 year old with a 22 year old. As long as consent is given it is fine. And being 17, she could have been a couple of months away from turning 18 or having just turned 17. It makes a difference.
The consent age is the least of the worries. That "22 yo guy" could've been a trap (murderer/rapist/...) and "sleeping" over with him while your parents think you're with friends is dangerous for these situations as well, as it would be much more difficult to localize her in a life-threatening situation. They really didn't need to do that in a public place, even less in a restaurant, so at least 2-3/5 buttholes for that.
It happens, i saw a movie once where the current wife was ill and husband was gonna be with another woman when she passed(i don't FULLY remember the movie but it was clear that one woman was wifey and one was girlfriend, and the kids even knew and were fine), sorta like wife was saying 'id rather you have someone here to help you when i pass then be grieving alone. ' the girlfriend even tried to get to know wife and kids so they'd all be on the same page and understand eachother. I cant remember the movie name but i remember that much.
my mom and father have been separated for 12 years, and my father passed recently. shes been dating someone for a while now, since before my dads passing. we've all lived together since they started dating. i hate it, but it happens.
KnittingGirl28 I think that was Stepmom with Julia Roberts. It sounds like the basic plot, except the parents were divorced for a while (and he was dating his new girlfriend) when they found out the mother had cancer.
@@KnittingGirl28 I saw a movie like that once. It was set on a farm in the 1800s and starred Farrah Fawcett, who was the girlfriend, and Lea Thompson as the wife. Good movie.
I have never heard a case where two “parents” tried to go no-contact with a child! I’m sorry, no, you did terrible things, you don’t get to choose to be no contact
Last story, since when does a sister at 17 listen to anyone? They are at that age where they know everything. Sure, he would have been better off reporting her profile to tinder, who would remove and delete it. He also should have told and shown the parents about the profile and let them handle it. Trust or no it is his place to keep his siblings safe, even from themselves.
@@im_bchen I did state what he should have done in my comment. It is difficult to change a mind that is set on making its own choices regardless of outside guidance. Public humiliation is the splitting maul that can seperate families and make influencible minds impossible to reach by those who need reach it most, no the bother's choice of action was not advisable.
@@im_bchen As I said, public embarrassment is never a great teaching aid. I have to conclude that you then mean to say the parents should have stayed out of the matter all together and the brother should then have tried to deal with his sister on his own? I feel parents have a responsibility to their children to steer them away from bad decisions in life, be they 7 or 70. Your parents should always be a fount of advice for you. I fear that what you seem to suggest is part of the very thing wrong with the world today as a whole. A child is the parents chance to mould a life into the very best they can be, hopefully at the very least to do better than their parents; no matter how well their parents may have already done. Okay, say the brother handled it solo, how do you suggest that should have gone?
You're right, 17 year olds usually don't listen, at least unless a lot of attention is involved (i.e. "Imma be popular", "You ruined my reputation", etc.), so the public humiliation thing kinda seems up her alley
@@im_bchen How about this Instead of going to the restaurant,make Kevin(the guy who the pictures was based off) go to the restaurant.Talk a bit(Nonsexual stuff of course).After their "date",Kevin then drives the Sis home where OP and their father is waiting for them.OP then address Kevin and Kevin responds back(kinda of showing that the sis that this was planned).Then let them go inside and then start the humiliation >:) Keeps the main message clear as day while removing what seems to be the only problem with the story(the public humiliation part) How about it?
I 100% DISAGREE about the umbrella in the rain! He warned them that the rain was serious business, and they ignored him. He suggested they buy umbrellas, and they ignored him. He warned them that he would be keeping his umbrella for himself, and they ignored him. Yes, I would be pissed to get soaked. But I'm also mature enough to recognize when something is actually my own fault. Umbrella guy is 1/5 buttholes TOPS. (Edited because I had hit Enter instead of Space somewhere).
@@plaste3875 So they're already soaked, and then he sacrifices some of his own dryness to prevent an already soaked guy from what exactly? The impact of the rain? Should have listened.
@@plaste3875 Other people's comfort is not my responsibility if it's at the expense of my own comfort, especially if they are warned beforehand about how it's going to play out. I will not pay for the stupidity of others. It's their own fault. Even if it was a big umbrella, I'm not going to do that stupid two person or 3 person shuffle under a single umbrella because then I, the person who didn't intentionally ignore the opportunity to prepare for the oncoming fuckery, would get wet. The other 2 people were idiots and willfully ignored the warning; thus, are responsible for the consequences of their decisions. This was a life lesson that they needed to learn at some point: Preventative measures and self-accountability.
And what exactly has she learned? That her brother is a deceitful, petty, rat fink, prick? All she will learn from this is that she HAS to keep her life secret because her brother will rat her out and humiliate her if she doesn't. She hasn't learned anything about the dangers of meeting up with strange men on tinder because that never happened.
@@lexihatter4937 i tried to check comments in that link and couldn't foe some reason but he did send a warm thank you to one person (whom he does not name) that said they wish a mass shooter shows up at his wedding.
Lexi Hatter Yeah, I thought that, though he’d have to handle it carefully so that she doesn’t look like the butthole instead. The gay brother was being kinda naive, at best.
Chlober I completely agree. Plus she could have Been kidnapped, raped, or even killed. So I don’t think the dad and brother were overstepping or being rude at all.
Still you can manage that without having her to go to restaurant. In the moment she told her parents that she was going to stay with a friend, was the perfect time to tell her that she was catfished. that they know her real plan and the dangers of meeting with strangers that way, specially because she is underage. There. In their house, in private, as a family. Damn, he could just told their parents that she had a Tinder profile where she is lying and show them the proofs, I am pretty sure the account will be banned after a call. And the fake date was over the top, I am not sure how their parents were OK with it. Now she was not thinking about the dangers, but how her family humiliated her, how everybody around knows what happened, how a lot of people will be talking about how many dates she had before she was caught and lots of nasty stuff. And she will be very mad. If she ends running away with a meth head in the next two months and ruins her life, her family was the one to blame because they did´t know how to manage a situation, even if they had the time to think what they are going to do with her.
I would give him 2 out of 5 buttholes because he did warn them, yes. But it stated they the umbrella could easily cover 2 people so I do feel like he should have had the guy/girl without anything, get under the umbrella with him.
Teaching a sibling about online dating by pretending to be someone else is about as effective as teaching the car in front of you how to drive by tailgating them.
Well I kinda support what the last guy did because not only was she lying about her own age but she didn't hesitate to go to meet strangers where she in worst case could be assaulted or kidnapped. People are way too stupid and trusting when it comes to social media. For all you know, a 50 y/o creep could be on the other side of the screen, waiting to drag you into his van.
I agree that he was doing it to protect her and it's good for her to learn that people (predators in particular) could use anyone's photo to lure her into meeting them. I think where he was a dick was that he and his dad lectured her in public which would have been so humiliating. Like could they not have done it at home or at the very least in the car on the way home?
I agree in supporting the last guy. The fact that she was that willing & receptive means she's probably done that before, & if she was lying about her age & in high school, she's probably only 16-17, which could cause legal trouble for the guys, too. I'm in my 20s, and I still wouldn't agree to go to a stranger's house first date. That combined with her lying about where she was going is a perfect recipe for her to end up gone forever. I do think they should have lectured her at the house instead of in public though...
One of my female cousins ended not only pregnant but also being extorted by a total stranger (not the baby's bio-dad) who stole her then boyfriend's phone. Her family found out about the last part when a 40ish-50ish old f-er showed up at their door asking to "see my son". So yeah, I'd rather be an a-hole and public humilliate her than having her raped/pregnant/extorted/murdered by a suposedly prince charming on-line
17 is not a baby. She was going on a date with him first, she may have decided not to have gone back to his place. It was none of her sister's business. The same thing could happen to an 18 year old and older. Are we going to ban them from using tinder? The sister could have just sat down and said in an open and honest way why she thinks that she shouldn't be using tinder, and that's it.
I don't think the catfishing story was actually that much off a butthole. Yes, he really upset her, but I feel like you have to to get the message across. You absolutely cannot be going out and trying to meet with grown adult men online as a seventeen year old girl, at least not without telling your parents where you're going! If something happened to her, or she went to this guy's house and got kidnapped, her parents would have absolutely no clue where she was, who she could have been talking to or why she wasn't where she should have been. It's a message that really needed to be got across.
If it's to teach her a lesson, yes. But he went too far when he told all his friends to have a laugh. Also, teaching someone a lesson doesn't need to be out in public. No one needs to be torn down for others to watch.
@@RRRX18 Nobody's saying that the brother should have done nothing, but the way he went about teaching her a lesson was absolutely bhole. I'm guessing her bad judgement in how to approach dating comes from the same place as the brother's judgement on how to teach lessons. They take things to the extreme, and this kind of lesson is more likely to just escalate that even more in the future.
@@gekko513 Dude, I have 2 little sisters. One day at a mall, one of em tried to play a joke by sneaking merchandise into her pocket. I chewed her out for that. Reason? People were around and, well, we're black. "2 black teens putting unpaid items in their pockets" ain't a good look. She knows that now. She never did it again.
@@RRRX18 The brother handled it well until he starts sharing it to his friends like it's a trophy tale. You're speaking in terms of 'what could have happened and what was prevented'-- but you're also forgetting that he probably asked the public opinion because the consequences of his actions are catching up to him. Public shaming was not necessary at all. Especially for a young teen who starting to be conscious of themselves. A grown man (23?) and their father thinks it's appropriate to lecture her in full view for a restuarant to watch? Does teaching someone a lesson need to be made public to be effective? Like you said, he's rated 1/5 a Asshat. So he should eat that cookie like how he pranced around with his storytelling. Since he never consider lashback of how his sister will respond back, whether she cut ties with the family, suicide, or develop psychological issues in the future-- obviously that's not important enough to be in consideration.
I completely disagree with the last one R/ you do realize that any man she met up with on tinder and had any kind of sexual relationship with would go to jail since she is underage If she was 18 it'd be a different story but she was 17 lying about her age which could have ended with other people getting in iail
I think the problem is the public humiliation, not the confrontation. She definitely needed a talking to about this, but not in a public place surrounded by strangers.
@@Arkalius80 yea but I feel like considering people could have had their entire lives ruined by her doing this he isn't a complete asshole I think maybe 2/5 for choosing the wrong setting but like he may have saved some people from criminal charges
IMO it doesn't take away the buttholes for him, but makes her 5/5 buttholes for trying something like that. There are way better ways to handle something like that.
I dont think the last one was that bad. The friend part definitely was jerk mode but if he had brought the tinder thing up to her and not done the fake account she would have just denied she was going to see them and going to their places. Thats like super dangerous. When she was about to leave he should have stopped her but i dont think hes a huge ass for proving what she was going to do and how easy it can be to lie about who u are online.
Really liked the breakdown of there only needing to be 2 people at a wedding but you need 3 or 4 because you need someone to marry you and most of the time you need a witness
That girl that thought the guy & his brother cuddling is disgusting needs to get her head checked because she has a perverse mind. The way this guy cares for his brother just shows that he will be a good father one day & any son or daughter would be lucky to have him.
@@toomanybagels you *seriously* believe that saying, "hey you shouldn't be doing that* would work with anybody. Really. The hard way is out of the question, him or his parents telling her to stop would outright not work and if you think it would you're on some of that good stuff, and that last one kinda falls under the first.
You just talk to her. She will be 18 soon and will have to make her own decisions. So now instead of learning why she shouldn't be doing something, they laughed at her and publically humiliated her. Talk to her like an actual person. Humiliation just guarantees that if something happens to her(sexual assault, abuse, etc) she won't trust her family to not be angry at her.
Honestly I don't think the brother deserves that high of a score. Yeah, confronting her in the restaurant and bringing his friend into it were butthole moves, but she needed to learn. Roughly 250,000 women and young teens go missing in a year, and a lot of those are due to them meeting the wrong person online. OP's sister could've been one of those girls. At most he deserves only 2 out of 5 buttholes.
I don't think her age matters in that situation, she could have been 18, 24 even 30 and it could have happened. It's more that she's lying to the guys, and they could get in trouble for something they didn't realise they were doing with a minor.
Shame is not the right way to teach dude , he deserves those buttholes + in the story he said it would be funny so it was more about having fun than teaching her a valuable lesson
The boyfriend has a right to set examples for his teenagers. HIS kids can follow his rules, but to force that on a 23 year old, he needs a dose of reality.
I felt the same thing
It would kind of make sense if OP was still a teen or something - but 23?? like bro are you okay?
100% agree. A very wise child psychologist once pointed out to us that different ages get different privileges. Seems obvious but we were caught up in being fair, and that was wrong because our kids are about 4 years apart. A ten year old gets things a six year old doesn’t. So the guy needs to teach his kids that at 23 you’re an adult and a free agent. In theory, op can move out and support himself. And that’s not even starting on trying to step in and parent someone who lost their dad a year ago. It was a pretty exasperating story.
I.K.R
Yeah. I was with a girl with two kids once. One of the ground rules she gave me right away was: you do not parent my kids.
I think the wedding issue would best be resolved by making the ultimatum that if he really wants to bring his boyfriend, he needs to come clean to his family to get that madness out of the way BEFORE the wedding. Not during.
I totally agree
@ApenasumaARMY BR then those relatives gets uninvited, guy even said he would immediately cut anyone out of his life who tried to give his gay brother a hard time.
@ApenasumaARMY BR guess who would get uninvited
There would still be drama, trust me. I have two moms, married, and when my mother came out as gay there was lots of people leaving. It's very possible that op just wanted a day to celebrate with his family. The fight can come after.
@@darkmask5933 Exactly!!!
That umbrella guy was not an ass. He went to a shop to get an umbrella with them in tow. If they didn't want to get an umbrella after being warmed multiple times, it's their fault. It's not his fault his friend are stubborn and didn't believe him. It's their own punishment for being dense.
facts
Big fax
the thing is he should have helped his friend. Then he should remind her/him as a joke when they see each other "hey do you remember that time you got soaking wet" and just laugh it off.
@@nicomasello7013 nah man... hes a friend, not a babysitter. if they don't wanna buy an umbrella they can feal with the consequences of not having an umbrella. it's not his job to make sure they're dry when they refuse to take the necessary precautions DESPITE his multiple warnings
And also it's not life threatening, so really no need to help on that.
On the umbrella story, the op isn’t the a-hole. It’s the friends. He literally warned them that they needed umbrellas and the still didn’t.
Completely disagree with r/ re-wording instead, let's make that,
I warned my friends that something bad was gonna happen, how to prevent it from happening, and what the cost would be if they didn't ....then I didn't go out of my way to reduce the negative outcome they had to face which essentially amounted to discomfort because they were being idiots
Lemme rephrase it like a vine skit(I've seen vine vids on TH-cam)
OP: Yo guys, you want some umbrellas
Friends: We good
OP: It's literally going to rain hard! This ain't England. Come get some
Friends: We straight
OP: Aight, don't come to me
LATER
Friends: H-Heu, could you share the umbrella?
OP: Nope! I warned you fools and you didn't listen! Stuff live baby!
@@75ur15 Op literally had no need, reason, nor purpose to lessen the negative outcome. He had already attempted to lessen it by warning them of the rain and why they would need it. They didn't listen therefore they got soaked. If you won't listen to someone trying to help you once, don't expect them to try to help you again
@@tylerknight6890 I agree, I was saying the narrator r slash said it wrong and I was offering a correction, which correlates to what you just said
@@75ur15 Ah, I thought you mean that Op was being mean by not negating the bad effects. Sorry for the misunderstanding
The boyfriend in the story needs to piss off. If you want to be a step father to kids that’s great, but if you don’t respect them as adults, then they will resent you as one
Edit: I’d like to thank everyone for liking my comment! It’s been by far my most liked comment and it’s great to hear everyone here has common sense. Love y’all
It’s so stupid too. The OP is a goddamn adult and I’d tell him to fuck off and he doesn’t even help around the house, nor does he even live there. Who is he to try and act like a father figure to someone he’s not related to?
My wife has four adult children. I don't try to play daddy to any of them. I am Grandpa to their kids though.
Honestly I can feel how OP felt in that situation but knowing myself I would’ve fought the guy and felt terrible about it
Like R/ said, even if it was the biological father, he can't set a curfew or ground a 23 year old, he's an adult, wtf
I saw that story on reddit, he's not even married to the mom and doesn't even live there! Op wrote a response where the boyfriend wanted him to share his car with his daughter and to give it to her instead! He sounds incredibly entitled!
That wife with the stuffed tiger needs to get a sense of humor. Her son had no idea
She over-reacted for sure, but imagine the kid going to kindergarten and telling his teacher he's going to go home and play with his Tig Bitties lmao
@@shitstainman8231 It's not funny if he clarifies it's a tiger.
@@godmagnus who?
@@wexlerstudios8742 The kid
@@tyrekwit1e205 I mean who's Todd Morrisom
The "Tig Bitties" story reminded me that when my niece was 7, she had a huge unicorn that she named "Badonkadonk" because according to her it means "big" 😂
Is there an alterior meaning to that word? Sorry I'm not a native speaker, ty in advance
@@itzame2127 it means butt, but a more childish version of butt
That made me smile. Thanks
Dig bick
Tiny Tina?
Hey, I kinda disagree with the rain/umbrella thing. I see it like this.
A: Are you hungry, want something to eat
B: No, I'm fine, I'm not hungry
A: Are you sure you're not hungry, I'm not going to share my food if your saying you're not hungry and don't order
B: I'm sure I'm not hungry
A-Gets their food
B: Oh, that looks good I'll just have a bite
A: No, this is my food you could have gotten your own
Dude warned them that rain where they are is bad, and kept insisting they get a tool to keep them from dealing with discomfort and they brushed him off on it.
Issue with this metaphor is that someone eating your food takes away your food,someone being under your umbrella doesn't remove your umbrella
JOEY DOESN'T SHARE FOOD! :-D
Imo opinion it’s everyone sucks here for the umbrella story with the friends sucking more. Your metaphor would be more apt if he had some food left over and threw it away instead of letting them have some, since he said the umbrella had enough room to comfortably fit 2 people. However he did warn them so they’re the assholes if they felt entitled to being under the umbrella, but since they are friends the dude not being willing to help his friends is a slight asshole like 0.5/5 to his friends 2/5
@@themultiversalassociationo9746 well i mean in my experience it kinda does, it pushes you to be less covered by the umbrella, although i guess that also depend son the size of the people it's being shared with. I'm tiny, 5'1, 128 lbs, and sharing my umbrellas still almost always ends up with me being half in the rain
@@OingoDeLaBoingo It has been 5 months, so I don't really remember but I think he mentions they could both fit easily under it
*if sisters can cuddle while sleeping so can brothers damn it*
*men can be affectionate together without being gay*
I think she was just hit with the affection out of nowhere, wasn't accustomed to seeing guys like that, and took the toplessness out of context. Coming from a family that isn't very physical, I'd probably think it was weird, too. However, I wouldn't have made a thing about it until me and my significant other were alone, and would have backed off once I had reasonable context rather than doubling down. I'd maybe pay closer attention to how they interact after that, too, just to make sure the younger brother isn't showing signs of being sexually abused.
@@dahken417 You kinda just proved their second point a little with your last statement, that men - brothers, no less - can't be affectionate with each other without being scrutinised. You just took it a step further; instead of sexual orientation, you went straight for sexual abuse.
@@PixieStorm When an adult has sexual relations with a minor, it is sexual abuse. All Dahken said was that they'd confirm that nothing bad is happening before jumping to conclusions.
@@GoBIGclan are you christian?
BrutusAlbion that really has nothing to do with it but ok.
The one about the brothers losing their parents. The girlfriend should know of the situation so why is she judging
Moreover, "I was just stating my opinion and it didn't hurt anyone" b!tch, didn't you see my brother crying because of you? I'm glad OP got rid of such entitled, wait still applies "brat" for her? nah, entitled jerk.
Freshmint well you could call her a bratty entitled jerk
I agree she’s a bitch but 4/5 she thought it was incest
@@sirdrumgun8680
Yes because anything other then beating each other senseless automatically means they're in a sexual relationship.
As opposed to healthy non-toxic male affection
No one would say this about two sisters no one would say this about mother and her grown daughter. But they'll say it as long as there are two men involved.
Desiree Loveros also you think I don’t have a non toxic male relationship I have to great younger brothers who I love dearly the older of the two i have some fights with but all together we’re good and the younger I have never had any fights with and they both mean the world to me I see op side completely and would be pissed but I would have tried to repair the relationship after I was done being angry
stepdad gets 5/5 for overstepping and being an entitled parent.
@Channel Description Ah I don't think you read correctly I believe they were talking about the mom's boyfriend trying to boss around the 23 y/o son not the brother and his sister
Channel Description you’re thinking about the wrong one bud.
@Channel Description dude the person telling the story with the step dad is a male and they 23 not a child.
TALKINGtac0 I'm sure he's a good guy if not a bit clingy (I'm bad with words I didn't know what to say sorry) so yeah I would give him 3/5 at MOST not 5
Especially when the hit was DESIGNATED DRIVING. Wtf. Id be so proud if my kid did that
But the umbrella one is just like this:
Parents: Go on the toilet before we go on our trip because we wont stop them!
Son: No I dont need to got that bad
2 hours later
Son: I need to pee!
Parents: We told you to go at home we warned you about it!
I don’t understand why this guy was the asshole!
I think that's a semi good comparison but not necessarily apt in this situation. Him letting his friend get soaked is kind of sucky but he DID warn them to buy an umbrella and them getting soaked is the consequence of them not listening. Harmless in the end, and not necessarily an asshole move more of a learning experience. However, in your analogue if a child didn't go to the bathroom, and a parent said I won't stop for you to go, the kid then needs to go the consequence of them not listening would be having to hold it until the parent finds some place to pull over, so not necessarily a direct comparison. If you wanted to make it a direct comparison then the consequence would be the child peeing their pants in the car. That WOULD be harmful and an entirely asshole move, so I don't think that comparison is right.
If you're trying to show the lack of assholery it would more likely be a kid going out to, let's say, rollerblade, the parent telling them to wear knee and elbow protection, the kid blowing them off saying they won't need it, only to fall and skid their knees.
In the end though, agreed umbrella guy wasn't an asshole, just a little jerky, but that's his friend's own faults for not listening when he warned them multiple times.
Same like if it’s urs u don’t have to share if u don’t wanna
Yeah i did think rslash was wrong on that one
@@JM-gj1oe not the first time either, someone freaked out because his girlfriend called his 12 year old sister fat, i dont understand why thats an asshole move to defend your younger sister.
they were being cheap and not trusting his word not willing to spend money on an umbrella, i am personally uncomfortable to be standing under the same umbrella unless the person is ultra close to me, not just a friend. so absolutely not, cus he even warned them that he is not willing to share an umbrella.
R/: "designated driving"
Me: "dungeons and dragons"
I did the same thing! Best part is either one works.
Same here, I straight away thought of Dungeon and Dragons and then went to Stranger Things
I guess I'm old cuz I thought the same thing!!! 😂😂
So did I, and I don't even play it
M O O D
4:22 adults have boundaries too, and that man over stepped to the point where I would have just laughed at him, and said, "You don't have the authority over an adult, so if this carries on, I'll go legal over the harassment."
´you have no power here´
The Dad joke is something that transcends race, religion, age and social status. No matter who you are you won't escape it.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssss
"Dad jokes" are an US thing and completely unknown in Germany for example.
@@taminy2051 oh, interesting, do not know that. Thanks for informing.
SON Gohan knows all about dad jokes.
@@taminy2051 Well it looks like I'm about to raise a family in Germany. You can't stop the Dad Joke Movement.
That tiger story reminds me of something like of my brothers did as a kid. He was obsessed with elephants and one of his favorites was Horny the elephant. He's an adult now and we still tease him about it 😂
This made my day 🤣
I did the same for a moose😂
I named my pet chicken pecker 😐😐 my mom laughed but wouldn’t tell me why....
Children are the most innocent beings in the world, I swear.
Oh, I named a penguin "Poosey" after the French word for baby chicken. I got teased.
17 year old meeting older men off the internet.... Wonder when her episode of Forensic Files will be on tv?
Damn dude that's dark af!
@@nazalz3877 But not entirely inaccurate.
@@nazalz3877 is it wrong?
@@nazalz3877 it's fine for me I love dark humor
God bless ALABAMA
I disagree with the rain one. Maybe 1/5 buttholes. I am a big believer of people being adults. The friends should have respected the fact that he warned them SO HE DIDNT HAVE TO SHARE and their inability to heed his advice and plan ahead forced him into a situation he didnt want to be apart of.
I agree. He told them to buy it. He warned them that he wouldnt share. That was being a butt hole it was trying to help his friends to make the correct decision
I agree with you, that's not nice but not an absolute butthole either as they have been warned. I can relate to the story op somewhat.
See, yknow the person who always seem to have everything on her? That's me. Ppl critiques why I'm bringing shits (backpack full of gadgets and tech and tools and first aids, some on pockets tho) everywhere? For emergency I said, that won't happen they said... we won't need those they said..
Me personally: Starbucks coffee fell on top of labtop, I used my multi tools to take it apart in matter of minutes in that very Starbuck. Do a through out components drying, also wipe things with diluted alcohol (fyi, Starbucks water's their cheapest drink but at crazy mark up price) put them back together and I safely turned them on again by night (I know, risky, but I was also backing things up as I was in a hurry)
Friend 1: Is hungry cuz an event taking longer than expected. I brought small snacks and some water. Headache? Stomach ulcer? Got them meds too, over the counter tho.
Friend 2: attending same interview as me only to realize his top shirt button had fallen off. I brought sewing kit (with spare buttons, I took his lowest button for the top and the spare button at bottom). Also ripped clothing are frequently cases when hiking which was one of my hobby..
Friends' birthday party turned to disaster: I brought first aid as the hotel's first aid turned to be expired and a new one's pretty far we got emergency.. I even bring a certain type of antiseptic for people with allergy to the normal one (cuz I know a close friend of mine's allergy, I didn't bring much tho)
Mom&fam: often didn't have charger, didn't bring umbrella, got cold, etc... All which I can solve with things I brought..
Everyone: phone ran out of battery. I had short cable as phone strap (double function) and power bank in pen case if not pockets.
Not 100% like op, but if anyone critiques (teases are fine) my 'fussy'ness, s/he ain't getting anything from me.. unless it's emergency, like the first aid case.
What kind of friend are you if you don't let your FRIENDS under an umbrella? He said there was more than enough room for 2 people, so his 2 friends with no raincoat could've been just fine. He could've proved his point by keeping them in the rain for 10 seconds, after that, you're no friend, you're unreliable, won't be trusted again, might ruin your friendship, maybe your friends will get really ill just because you couldn't act like an ADULT and had act like a toddler about it "haha I was right and you were wrong", and lastly, you're a real asshole
@@nitrothunderbird6740 You act like they're lives were ruined. Its just rain lol. They spent an evening wet because they didn't know how to plan and listen to advice. Sucks. And that makes him unreliable? Aren't they the unreliable ones? No one wants to have liabilities running around. That is exactly what you are when you can't plan ahead and rely on other people to take care of you. If my friends can't be self sufficient then I don't wanna be friends anyway.
If i was his friend, and i thought i knew better and refused his well intentions repeatedly, i would be ashamed of entering under that umbrella even if my friend offered afterwards. I wouldn't even ask for it nor be angry at him and just suck it up as my own stupidity. The fact that he is sharing that story and asking if he is the asshole in the situation means his friend must have asked for it and got angry at him for refusing. That shows what kind of person the friend is. Shameless and won't take responsibility for his actions. Better off without people like that. It may seem like a small incident, but can you put your trust in someone like that in the future for something much more serious? Those kind of people aren't true friends...
I am laughing hysterically from the tig bitties one
Oh great
I thought it was funny too. I could see myself doing that to my kids, lmao.
I had a friend who once said he liked tig biddies, so I nearly died laughing when I heard this. It was an adult conversations with children nearby, so he chose not to be vulgar-his words, not mine.
Oh yeah :D
I was :-D too
As an actual 17-year-old girl, if I found out one of my friends was agreeing to meet up with full-grown dudes they met on Tinder, I would react the exact same way as that girl's brother and dad. And if my family did that to me, yeah I'd be embarrassed, but I'd get over it because if you're actually mature, a little embarrassment shouldn't be enough to ruin your life.
Exactly. She is willing to trick and humiliate any guy who wouldn’t have consented to a minor, so if she feels tricked and humiliated then its just karma, not to mention she could have been raped and murdered by any stranger she met so the fact that all she got was embarrassment she got off LUCKY
The umbrella guy gets 0/5 for me. It's impossible to stay dry sharing and umbrella. You were warned, why should I be punished? The friends were just be stubborn.
I believe that op said that the umbrella was large enough for two people. Honestly I can't be upset at them either way.
Any way you slice it, it is a little dickish to allow it to go on for half an hour. Five minutes to get the point across is plenty.
The umbrella one.. I would have done the same
He warned his friend multiple times etc. But they didn't listen
Kinda fits this "better safe than sorry" they could have gotten an umbrella or something by themselfs just incase
I have actually done that one before to two of my friends. If they don't value my opinion on the matter then I have no sympathy if they get screwed over later. My friends had to run in the rain. I laughed. They laughed too but later.
@Maple Leaf lol I didnt even know that. If the three are all straight dudes, that definitely wouldnt work.
But I'm a guy that dont trust unbrellas to begin with. Rain jackets ftw
@Maple Leaf FOUND THE WEEABOO!! lol
I agree completely with this I would would sit there for at least 15 - 20 minutes warning them at its better safe than sorry
I agree so much. Nothing wrong by standing by your opinion. She even warned them multiple times. Lesson learned for them.
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A wedding without at least three deaths is considered a dull affair.
Ok but like, we’re just gonna ignore that a 17 year old girl was trying to get with older guys. Guys, in which could’ve ended up in JAIL because she lied about her age? I give him 2/5
Not even 2/5 1/5 for saving a dudes ass because this idiot wanted to date older guys without their knowledge. The girl gets 3/5 for being awful and wanting to risk other people's lives just for some sex.
This_is_Fine o
I’ve been scrolling through the comments looking for this exact response. THANK YOU. Girl needs to get some boundaries.
...and how does tricking and humiliating her teach her that? The appropriate response would have been to let the parents know from the start. Not play a cruel joke on her.
FightingDuskstalker She knew what she was doing was wrong. If she didn’t she wouldn’t have tried to lie about her age. There was no teaching that could’ve been done, it was just straight giving her a taste of her own medicine at this point.
Failing to heed a warning is the fault of he who warns? 0/5 for japeneese umbrellas
Mate ye sounded like a guy telling a tale and I Stan
Right
LOL
This is literally an r/pettyrevenge story.
It is petty revenge
The rain story was definitely justified. They knew the forecast, STOPPED SOMEWHERE SO THE GUY COULD GET AN UMBRELLA, and they still insisted they were fine and didn't need it. It's on them that they didn't prepare themselves, they're adults.
As far as the last story about tinder, I don't think OP was that in the wrong. OP potentially saved her sister, and kept her from ruining a guy's life because she was underage. The execution wasn't the greatest but her sister already didn't trust her as she told OP to mind her business when the tinder notification came up, then lied to her parents on where she was going and staying with. THAT'S SUPER DANGEROUS. To be honest, you should always let someone know who you're going out with and where if meeting for the first time so that if anything happens to you, you have someone who can inform police about the who and where.
Gammas, I started thinking I was the asshole for siding with the umbrella guy. Lol. I feel better now. Thanks.
Thanks for literally stating my opinion, so I didn't have to.
Yea the umbrella thing was deserved, next time it might knock some sense into them.
Interesting that you’re assuming the last OP was an older sister, ’cause I assumed OP was an older brother. Does it change your view thinking of OP as a guy? Because for me it kinda did when I now realized that they might not be. Somehow I feel more okay with an older sister doing it rather than an older brother.
@Jennifer Wettervik I'm pretty sure the author is female, as they said "my friend was a male model". I doubt a male would feel the need to add "male" in that situation.
I personally don't think it makes a difference if it's an older brother or sister.
Coming out on the same day as your brother's wedding?
Drama should be kept to a minimum, it's not about you so you shouldn't bring any attention to yourself.
If you wanted to come out to the family, you should have done so earlier.
Thank you. Come out waaaay earlier, or just after the wedding. But dont ruin the wedding by making it about yourself
cody I agree with the whole he shouldve come out earlier thing
luvondarox puts it well
I think the wedding issue would best be resolved by making the ultimatum that if he really wants to bring his boyfriend, he needs to come clean to his family to get that madness out of the way BEFORE the wedding. Not during.
of course they could also just go as friends
Really idiots? If for his parents a coming out is a 'drama' they're shitty parents. Wtf I hate people lmaoooo y'all are being ridiculous. If I brought my boyfriend to any place where my family is celebrating without warning them they wouldn't mind, as I'm an adult. So, that is what should happen even if decided to date a girl. Please use some better excuse for your rampant homophobia next time. I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE. It's only a big deal because they decide to make it one. If he's dating someone, it's not "drama" or a big deal or attention seeking ALL HE EVER DID WAS DATE SOMEONE LMAOOOOOOOOOOO KILL ME
@@justagirl9224 Yea but the whole thing would be on the guy's wedding day. This is about him and the bride, NOT the brother. Gay or not, it's still not about him. I agree that the part where it causes "drama" is horrible, that shouldn't be a problem. And he and even supports his brother so much to the fact that he'd even cut the people who have a problem with it out of his life. If that's homophobic then idk what is. Also his parents already know and are really supportive just throwing that out there...
Not trying to be homophobic/hateful or anything, I fully support it! Just don't do it on you're siblings wedding day... Weddings are stressful and it's just not the right time to do so. That's all we're trying to say.
Imagine being so insecure you get jealous of your boyfriends 1 5 y e a r o l d brother
probably because its gross? lmfao
@@ZooTycoon2witchdoc1 I mean yeah, sleeping on top of him shirtless is pretty weird, but at the same time there are family's that do much worse. Not to mention 1 weird occurrence doesn't make the whole relationship disgusting
I think it's just an overall misunderstanding. I personally find it gross when families are too close. Especially when it could be misconstrued as something sexual. Incest is just a huge no-no, so I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. I think it was a natural reaction for the gf to be grossed out and try to put a stop to something she saw as an immediate red flag. But afterwards, the bf should have tried to speak with her about their differences. His inability to acknowledge how odd that situation is kind of unfair to the gf. She deserved a chance to 1) explain herself, 2) apologize, 3) agree to try to accept it 4) inform him that it's way too uncomfortable/inappropriate/etc
PS, I had a similar situation once but handled it differently, although I still called immediate attention to it
I mean I have been to the dark side of the internet and that sounds like the beginning of a you know what or my mind is corrupt as fuck
@@missxspencer1538 I agree, I was surprisingly shocked when he said 0/5 for the guy. I found that story extremely uncomfortable especially since the brother is 15.
That wasn't "I don't want my brother to bring his boyfriend" it was "I don't want you to cause a scene at my wedding."
A coming out is, for many people, a significant social event. To do so at a wedding is like announcing your own engagement at someone's wedding, or announcing a pregnancy at someone's wedding, or using the wedding to announce a big fat job promotion, or that you won $50,000 in the lotto. It's scene-stealing. The groom-to-be was right, and also probably should be a bit miffed at his brother for putting him through this unneeded grief.
Precisely. Coming out is a HUGE FREAKING DEAL and someone ELSE'S day is not the platform for it. The bride and groom did not ask to be pulled into a major incident and it's not fair to ask them to!
Scene? More like family-splitting war-
Ok, ok a bit of an exaggeration, *maybe.* But if I can prevent b*tching at my wedding in a civil way, fine. Might not seem like the best way to look at it, but I will take my butthole points to avoid family drama anytime.
The brother could’ve came out at least when they were planning the wedding, so the guy and his fiancé can uninvite homophobic family members
As a bisexual woman, I am APPALLED at the brother. You’re afraid coming out is going to be a massive family thing, so you pick your brothers wedding? No. You know damn well that is social upstaging at the best, and likely to ruin one of the happiest days of his life at the worst. Not to mention the shitstorm the boyfriend would have to deal with.
OP, you are not the asshole.
OP’s brother, you are.
OP’s brother’s boyfriend, consider a new SO.
For the umbrella guy, I give 0/5 buttholes.
You warned them about the rain, they didn't listen to you.
It's their problem they got soaked and they don't have to depend on you.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed
100%! they got warned multiple times, their loss for not listening and getting themselves umbrellas.
Agreed
For the umbrella guy it's a lose-lose situation because either he doesn't share and his friends say he's a butthole or he does share and they learn nothing. Plus now they all get soaked trying to fit 3 people under 1 umbrella or he has to choose between friends to share the umbrella. There is no win in that scenario it all ends bad.
As for the catfishing brother I agree with what he did. Not only did the sister put herself in a situation where she could be harmed or murdered but she also potentially put someone else in a situation that could ruin their life. That's 2 people who could face life changing (or ending) consequences because of her stupid decision. What happened to her was possibly the best case scenario since she could have easily become another missing person. But, admittedly, we don't know his sister and this could have made it worse. Or she could even be one of those people who only learn through being humiliated (because frankly your parents yelling at you when you get home is almost completely ineffective). And in my opinion I don't think he told his friends to laugh at her. He probably just wanted the opinion of somebody uninvolved to get a better perspective. Either way it's my opinion that whether he's a butthole or not his sister is an infinitely bigger butthole for possibly ruining 2 lives. For all we know she could've been planning to blackmail some guy. Doubt it but like I said we don't know her.
I think the brother was a bit of an ass with the public call out. But his sister could have gotten some poor guy a statutory rape charge by lying about her age, which is fucked.
And then there's the fact that she was meeting a strange man and NOT TELLING ANYONE. That's how you end up on a milk carton.
Hopefully she was at least telling one friend.
I feel like if you tried to talk to a teenager about the dangers of online dating they would brush you off. Sister is lucky that all she got was just embarrassment and not ending up sexually assaulted or killed by a stranger.
If I were the last guy and was called “cruel” or a “f-ing a-hole” by female friends, I’d ask them if they’d call a 22 year old guy an a-hole for sleeping with a 17 year old girl if she lied to him about how old she was?
acem556 I hope he goes to jail
Note to self: ask for ID before going on dates
There's already a news article about this. A 23 year old male met a girl who said she was 18 when she was really 14. The guy ended up being on the sex offenders registry due to the girl faking her age.
Deceptive horny little buggers.
@@avengermkii7872 yeah some girls are absolutely crazy, once I had a match on tinder were she turned out to be 12. Photos had lots of filters and looked pretty flat but of course you can't state that. Luckily I never met her
Well, the girl in that situation was going to trick a guy into committing a felony, so...
Totally agree the only bad thing op did was share with his friends
@@jacoby2567 imho the only bad thing op did was public humiliation. should've broke the ice before heading out to the restaurant or sumn
Comet what’s public humiliation compared to time in jail?
That girl totally deserved it
OP thought it was all a joke. I feel she didn’t take it with the seriousness it deserved. OP should have gone alone and been firm but loving to her younger sister and that would have been much better
I don't really think the umbrella dude is a butthole. He warned them repeatedly, and they didn't listen. It's their own fault.
I agree
As do I.
Agreed
yeah but at the end of the day, he was being a bad friend just so he could be right. Like, he probably got his point across within 30 seconds of heavy rain, instead he decided to let his friend get completely soaked, who knows how sick his friends are going to be now. He let his friends know that they cant count on him.
Agreed. They're an adult, they should know how to take care of themselves. They made the decision not to buy the umbrella, they should accept the consequences.
"you can guarantee that your sister isnt going to trust you with anything"
bruh you can also guarantee that his sister is a minor and that she broke her families trust by lying
I mean, I get the groom’s side. The day is about him and his fiancée. His brother could have came out to his family a long time ago and they could have easily weeded out the homophobes before. A wedding isn’t a place to come out, especially one that isnt yours. He is just gonna cause drama.
Bro I disagree with ur judgement on the umbrella dude. Its 100% on the friends for not getting an umbrella when warned multiple times
edit: yall it has almost been 2 years u can stop replying its ok
Raven Decker I completely agree with you there. They didn’t want to be prepaired and/or to take precautions. It’s def on the friends. He was trying to help them learn a lesson, it was tough-love.
Yeah I agree
Eh they were all butt holes in that story. The friends for not listening and dude for not helping out even a little when they clearly stated two people could fit comfortably under the umbrella.
Raven Decker I agree, they had the chance to buy one and didn’t take it
Chalchiuhtlicue Yeah I do agree with them all having some part in it... 75% on the friends and 25% on op then, or something close to that split 👍.
The rain one... not a butthole because, well, they had the opportunity, they were warned multiple times, and sharing an umbrella is awful for everyone
I share umbrellas all the time and its annoying, i agree. The people that think hes an asshole are probably the assholes here. Sharing an umbrella is so annoying.
@@kitchenroam1509 i agree to cause its hard to walk and you both have to be really close together and i just dony like it and the friends know about how hard it rains in japan and they didnt listen
he's not a butthole, but he wouldve been a great guy if he was like "even though i told you i wouldnt share, im gonna share anyways"
Yeah, I disagree with R/ on this one. It wasn't this dudes responsibility, and he warned his friends of such. His friends are idiots for being sorry rather than safe.
Umbrellas: they cause relationships and divorces.
Wait, AXE causes division
I wouldn’t have gave them my umbrella either
Honestly same, they were given multiple warnings and chances to buy an umbrella.
Their fault they were warned so they got soaked
Title: I catfished my sister on Tinder
Me:
_Sweet Home Alabama~_
Oh no....
Like they say: incest is wincest
Alabama 100
@@nsxzlaz8569 its only Alabama if they actually bang.
Lol
For the rain story let me rephrase this for all of you:
I warned my friends it was going to rain
I offered to buy them umbrellas
I told them I didn’t want to share
Repeat
They get mad when I warned them exactly what happened
😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
@Esben M They could have bought their own.
@@muneyotsuki8164 unless they were saving up considering they were in a foreign country?
Dudd I give you 2.5of 5 and friends also the same
If you can share umbrella without getting wet you could share
And if they were somewhat close friends you could have bought them the umbrella told them that in the next few days if they use it they should pay you(if it is as bad as you say)
You could have also enjoyed the rain if you had normal immune system
This was not a way to handle this well
It's like they are contractors or something not friends
Yea man people just can’t keep that same energy then something happens they look dumb as hack
*THIS*
That guy is not an asshole for what he did. There's no reason what so ever as to why he needs to be responsible for someone else's stupidity and ignorance.
In Brazil, those Brothers relationship is not disgusting, it's actually expected.
I don't think men should be shamed for platonic/familial affection. Touch is really good for you, especially after trauma. Humans are social animals. True, we all require different levels of social and physical interaction, but it's a biological need for almost everyone.
I don't know where in Brazil
In England its normal to do things like kiss family members on the cheek and give very firm hand shakes too and have a good relation with your brother. Not very strange
I think she’s the one with disgusting thoughts, to be honest. It’s her problem, not theirs.
Me and brother are a bit over 5 years apart and took baths together til I turned 11, I'm a girl so after I was about 9 I started wearing a bathing suit. He just wasn't ready to take baths alone. I never thought it was weird til people told it was but I don't see anything wrong with it.
Okay, so let me get this straight: The older brother in the last story is "cruel, a bit excessive and awful". That's the gist of this, right? But let's put this into a realistic fashion, which isn't too far off from the scenario that played out in the story.
My little sister is meeting up with an older man, without my knowledge, without my parent's knowledge. She has lied to my parents because she knows damn well that a 17 year old has NO business going on a date with a man in his 20s. She meets up with him, agrees to go with him to his place.
She's never seen again. And there are no leads, because her friend has no idea where she is, and her brother and her parents thought she was at her friend's house, so there's that little dead end. They can't do anything about her social media, because her phone is missing to find out who "Jim" is, who is nonexistent in the eyes of the authorities, because they don't even know about this 17 year old CHILD having a Tinder account to begin with.
But big brother, who actually did the protective brotherly thing, gets 4/5 buttholes, for basically doing the brotherly thing. ANYTHING will humiliate a 17 year old, especially if it involves parents. Even if it was brought up in the confines of the family home, she'll still be humiliated. What they taught her was a pretty valuable lesson. She just knew she was meeting Jim, had no idea who Jim really was beyond a couple of online chats and a profile on a hookup app. Everything that was laid out to her for this "date", is the exact scenario in which you hear those wonderful words, "...and she has been missing ever since that day..."
4/5 buttholes. Are you catching where you're wrong on this one? Not every situation needs the "cookie cutter" do it lightly Full House episode lesson of the day. That kind of scenario, I say they were pretty tame compared what they could have done. If It were me, I would've brought the brother friend to meet her, taken her to his apartment, and threatened to kill her and tie her up, and let he wallow and cry until the parents and big brother come in so she catches on that, "Yeah! THIS could've happened to you!!!" If you ask me, little sister get 4/5 buttholes for being a dumbass and potentially ending her life if her brother hadn't stepped in.
I completely agree, it seems sometimes you have to embarrass them so they wont do it again, bringing his friends in it was kinda a butthole thing tho.
@GPU Gambon Hi there. Would you mind elaborating what you mean by on purpose? Not being sarcastic or anything, I just wanted a little more detail to the statement. Are you saying she's doing it for attention?
@GPU Gambon I see what you mean. I personally think it's a combination of the two. She's stupid, which makes her naive. Glad your sister had much better sense than the one in this story. And I agree, as mad as she is with her brother and parents, hopefully she realized how lucky she was that it didn't go another route.
If they hadn't made a scene about it she would have brushed him off and said they were overreacting and "that doesn't happen in real life." Teens can be very perceptive and make great choices. They can be knowledgeable and conscientious. They also have difficulty understanding that in the long term a lot of things that are horrible or embarrassing to them don't really matter, and the long term consequences for their actions can be life changing or severe. They haven't live long enough to judge time very well.
I was totally with you until the second half of last paragraph. Jesus fucking christ, she needs to learn her lesson, not get mentally scarred and develop a fear of intimacy.
And I would be really concerned with my model friend (or any friend who wasn't an accomplished actor) if he was able to OVERPOWER the kid, tie her up, and threaten her all without cracking the façade and crying or apologizing because he felt so bad about what he was doing to her.
The umbrella fella isn't really an asshole. He warned them several times that it was going to rain, he reminded his friends to maybe buy an umbrella and they refused. Serves them right for being so stubborn.
i 100% agree
You can read the comments under the post, one of the commenters had a talk with OPs ex-buddies, and he didn't even let them buy an umbrella because he was in a hurry (while he bought his umbrella beforehand without telling them). So he pretty much gloated over his "friends" misfortune.
Not to mention that being right and not being an asshole is not the same thing, he had enough space under umbrella for all 3 of them, if they squeezed just a bit, so he is just a petty butt for not letting them in after they learned their lesson.
Andrey Protas nah 2 not 3 raincoat guy goes himself
Andrey Protas To learn your lesson you need to face the consequences, if they were with him, they’ll think ‘hey I can just keep depending on him.’
@@ineedabreak6063 I mean, at least he could stay behind them to get some protection from the rain. According to the description, the guy literally didn't even let them close to him during the whole ordeal and made fun of them along the way.
That’s very selfish of the brother to want to come out at his brothers wedding. Pick a different time man
I’m not sure if it’s *very* but ya maybe he should have come out before and then brought the bf. Like a least kinda warned that he had a bf so it wouldn’t really be the center of attention
Well, it didn't sound like he wanted to come out necessarily, he just wanted to spend that day with people he loved. He would have to explain it to the family, though, that's true, but... if he really didn't want to come out so early and did want to enjoy the company of his boyfriend, maybe he could've gone and pretended the bf was his FRIEND? It was the first thing I though of, and it could've been a compromise. I mean, I wouldn't consider a good day wasted if I had to go out to eat with my wife and didn't have a chance to kiss her, I'd still have fun because I love her for who she is and we were actually best friends for 3 years before dating.
@@aristotlepovey9866 erm no, the brother is trying to help him out and the way it was described in the story he seemed to have tried to handle it well as it was said that he CALMLY explained to his brother the situation.
now so that you understand how much of an asshole you are, what you are saying is the exact equivalent of us being friends and one day I allow, as a favour, for you to use my credit card for... I dunno, go to the movies, so you immediately assume that you can use my credit card for anything you want, at any time you want.
no, you can't there's a time and place, you need to ask me to use it.
when it comes to the brothers, OP was obviously supportive of his brother sexuality and wants him to be happy and not live his life in fear of his family. THAT IS NOT A FREE PASS to do it at the WORST POSSIBLE DATE EVER.
It's a wedding not a family get together. It's a day for joy and happiness over the union of two people who love each other and his brother action would lead to be all but that, it would be a day with in fighting, with people shouting and crying and cussing each other DOES THAT SEEM LIKE AN APPROPRIATE DAY TO DO THAT?
what next? you're gonna defend the right to wear bright yellow overalls with a clown wig to a funeral? wear a wedding dress in a wedding without being the bride?
Everything has a time and place, and I'm not saying the guy had the intention of causing harm. But he sure has hell has bad timing.
I was very divided on what to think with the brother. I know coming out is a stressful thing to do cause u don’t know how your friends and family will take it. But if OP’s family is as conservative as he says, there will most definitely be some drama. Like what OP said, he would support his brother’s decision on any other day, but on his wedding day, where the main focus is the happiness of the couple. It’s their big day. I think both parties could’ve handled it a bit better. I would give 1 butthole to OP because it’s a tough decision, and he does feel regret about it, and I would give 1 butthole to the brother because it took him a bit to realize the potential fallout that could happen on what’s supposed to be his brother’s happiest day.
my only thought is that maybe op could have suggested that his brother sit down with the family in the next two weeks before his wedding and tell them then and then bring his bf to the wedding
7:03 should be re-titled: AITA for saying I'll support my brother coming out to the entire family any day EXCEPT my wedding day? The poor OP is seeing it backwards on this one, not an a-hole at all for wanting his wife to have her big day without drama and distraction from the main event...he wasn't even putting it as his big day or their big day etc. I loved how he wanted it perfect for his wife and other than that one event is happy to support his brother. He sounds like a very kind and considerate person!
He even said in the story that if the brother had done it before the wedding, he'd know who to cut out. He was going above and beyond already. The only thing that could maybe be done is telling the brother that if he comes out beforehand then he can bring the partner to the wedding - even help him do it. That's the only thing I'd add, if the op hadn't already offered that.
Ah yes, defend the sister as she could potentially ruin someones life, grade A judgement
dumbest take ive ever heard
The step dad definitely tried too hard and lost himself an acquaintance as a result
Not really a step dad if he didn't get merried to the mom plue he wasn't paying bills at there home so why he thought he had any say so is beyond me plue step dads or in this case the bf needs to know that just because your dating or married to the mother does not make the father father to that kid so you have no right to tell them what to do and op is 23 like step dad needs to sit his ass down somewhere the same goes for the rest of the family they gone feel real shitty when he has no relationship with op because he F it up
@@kingturtle24k81 I only say "step dad" to differentiate the posts, but you know what I mean
Yea i know what you meant i was just ranting because stepdad was just doing to much
For some reason I was shocked when Rslash said that the umbrella person was the A**hole. I think what they did was fine and I don’t think that the friends should have been jerks like dude let them get an umbrella. The reason I was shocked is because I usually have the same opinion as RSlash
Edit- tf I made this comment like two years ago and people actually commented on it lol
Excactly. They had many opportunities to ge tf an umbrella and they warned them that due to their OWN CHOICES they will handle the rain themselves
Yh i was completely shocked too bcuz something like this happened to me before....
Sometimes me and my friends got to the park and hang out and buy lunch from the vendors and shop
One time i told one of my friends to bring their own lunch bcuz i didn't know if the vendors were gonna be there.
They all brought their lunches with them except hers. She said she wanted some of each of our own lunches bcuz she said she deserved them and that we should've warned her about the shops on strike.
I was freaking furious but i was well known for being a generous person but today i had only brought lunch that could feed one person.
We all scoffed and told her that we did warn her and that we're not sharing bcuz we didn't bring enough.
She threw a fricking tantrum but we all just sat on the picnic basket and watched her embarass herself infront of tons of ppl.
When she saw her scheme wasn't gonna work she left and screamed that she's gonna join the cool kids and that we were all buttholes for not sharing when clearly told her before that we weren't sharing but maybe tasting each others foods.
I stopped being friends with her after that.
I stopped speakin
When Rslash said that he was 10 out of 5 butt holes
Ya 3/5 buttholes for giving the umbrella guy a butthole rating
@@brittneybrat8911 post that on rebbit and credit u/thebattlerocker for now aparent reason
My counter claim to r/'s opinion on the umbrella story is:
Op: I going to start saving and investing money and you should too.
Friend: oh I don't need to, I can just do it later.
Op: (repeatedly) you should save now, it will definitely help later.
The friend doesn't have enough money and starts begging for money from op. OP doesn't have to share his money because his friend made a bad choice.
False equivalency. Giving someone money means you have less money. Letting another person under your two person umbrella means almost nothing. He could have fit one of them with no consequences to himself.
@@godmagnus consequences or not, it's their own damn fault for not getting an umbrella after OP literally asked them repeatedly if they needed it. They knew he wasn't going to share, so he didn't have no obligation to give them shit even if this was looking at his morals.
If I ain't gonna share, I ain't gonna share. They're adults, they should've learned this years ago by their parents.
They ignored the warnings, and they got shit on by nature for it.
That's like going out nude at the beach after watching the weather forecast tell you that it's going to be raining today.
@@tacobanana6538/videos And that's not even mentioning the fact that no matter how big of an umbrella I'm carrying, it's uncomfortable to share it with anyone. You'll have to be hugging each other real tight, walk at the same pace (somehow I'm out of sync with most people), but worst of all, you're more than likely to both get half-wet since umbrellas have "poles" in the *middle* and so the "prime holder" will have to stay in the middle, meaning that while they technically could fit another person under it, that person would have to be sawed in half lengthways with each half placed to each side. I don't feel I would deserve to get half-wet if I can avoid it completely and the other person could too, but decided not to.
FuturePants literally every single college student ever complaining about debt is just like dipshit why tf you go to college to get a degree in archaeology when you know that’s useless
EREX98 not really archeology is still a good career and people have the right to complain about debt.
Imagine having an affair, hiding the child with a family member, disowning the child by saying they were adopted, then when the child wants to meet their brothers and sisters tell them that they are being cut off from the family and out of their life.
Tinder brother isn't an asshole. She put herself in a very dangerous situation. I wish my siblings talked me out if some stupid things when I was a teen.
I think Rslash is a little slow now
@yerowww666 But the problem is that she lied to everyone and kept it a secret,
a) If it turned out to be some psycho, no one would know what happened to her because they didn't know about her tinder.
b) If it turned out that the guy was legit and he was being lied to, then he could face jail time for trusting a minor who just lied to him to have sex. How is that fair?
Sylver Nights and he also prevented her from potential rape and murder. Tel me that doesn’t out do it. I fucking dare you.
@yerowww666 But so far nothing suggests that the family is stopping her from dating. Just stopping her from dating older men that would get them into legal trouble. We cannot make the assumption that they stopped her from dating at all.
As for your b answer, that does not help the situation. At all.
@Alyssa Richardson Yes, that's true on a biological standpoint. But that is the law. If a few months isn't going to change her opinion on doing this, then she should do it when everyone is of legal age and no one could get in trouble for this. She could potentially get a man jail time if they slept together because she is a minor.
Even if she doesn't need the protection from the law, we have to think about the other side too. How fair is it that a man has to suffer jail time because of a little white lie that a "mature" person would do? I'm not saying all 18 year olds are instantly more mature, but that is how the legal framework is.
10:09, well, technically, there needs to be 5 people at a wedding, the two actually getting married, the registrar, and the two witnesses, otherwise it's technically not considered a legitimate wedding in the eyes of the law. Although I agree with the sentiment behind the statement
Sao?
@@SilverVolo sao abridged, the first two season of SAO proper can only really be described at best, as a dumpster fire.
Not everywhere is the US
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 👍🏾 by any chance do you watch gigguk( a ytber)
Depends on the state too. I know some places, the bride and groom can sign the marriage license alone and it's still binding
One of my friends years ago called up an escort. Having just moved to that city, he decided to have some fun. When he opened his door, his little sister was there. Very awkward, and that is how he found out his sister was a call girl.
I asked him... "how was she?"
Hahaha that’s amazing, what was your friends reply.
You...Do realise escorts aren't anonymous, right? Like, you pick the person? I smell bs
@@Veronique2001 lots of em are catfish.
Did they get a Family discount
“sweet home alabama”
The umbrella guy was very much in the right. That's like asking someone what they want for lunch, them saying "nothing" and then they get pissed at you for not ordering their favorite food for them anyways.
Mr. Pokirby like a lot of “nice girls”
The catfishing was def not worth 4/5. Maybe 2/5 for the public confrontation but she's actually committing crimes and endangering herself in massively stupid ways. She's lucky she didn't have a grandma like mine, I'd have been physically driven out of the restaurant like an unruly sheep to a high speed, high volume harangue and probably have a shoe or two thrown at me for good measure.
R.I.P Abuelita. A good one, but a mean one.
That's what I think his nay-sayers are ignoring. This girl is committing crimes and putting herself in serious danger sneaking around with grown men. I was stupid like her at that age and the damage of those decisions should never be underestimated.
As a note: If she so readily met with "Jim," how many other men has she been meeting? How long will her luck last regarding a literal gd kidnapping/rape/etc?
Also, she wasn't even called out on it in front of her peers, they were strangers at a restaurant and her family. I think the lesson was well worth it, there are too many creeps on sites like that and even if she meets decent guys she is still potentially screwing them over by lying about her age.
@@im_bchen I think she was as well.
Creeps are definitely common, I encountered many of them, hell I'm in my 20s now and I still encounter them online as do my female friends... Catfishes are easy to spot if you know to actually look for em and know signs.
@@JezebelNeverDied statisticsshow what crimes are you on about? Or maybe I should be asking what country you're in, coz here in England the age of consent is 16, so yeah she lied about her age by a couple years but I'm failing to see the crimes here. Also "she's putting herself in danger"? Who isn't when they meet some random people on the net?
My heart flat lined for a while when hearing the story of the guy and his brother. Literally what most girls are looking for.
I’m a mom and honestly if my son came forward and told me my daughter was not only underage and on a dating app but also lied about where she was to meet a stranger, I would be livid and definitely be meeting her at that restaurant to teach her a lesson on top of other consequences. She’s lucky the person she was meeting was her dad and brother. I think her brother absolutely did the right thing and I’m glad she’s safe.
Tegan ~ I totally agree. As a mum I'd do the catfishing too if it hadn't already been done! I thought the brother and the parents played the entire thing spot on. She was so naive she had no idea the danger she was putting herself into...and also the adult men she was meeting up with too!
Embarrassed and alive is better than on a milk carton. Sometimes the shock of such a turnaround is actually a good thing in the long run.
@@im_bchen Bruh, what's more important to you? Someone's ego or their life/mental health/ physical health? That girl could have been kidnapped, raped, sold into slavery, killed--and you're worried about her _ego?????_ Pride heals, death or emotional and physical trauma from rape/kidnapping/sex trafficking does not.
I understand you fear a girl's psych as 17 is a very crucial year for their self esteem, body image, and development. But being victim to such human cruelty is WAY worse than getting your feelings hurt for a little while.
On top of that, she was doing serious law breaking. A 22 year old man having sex with a 19 year old woman is okay. But a 17 year old woman is a jail sentence and life record to some rando who could be a non-pedophilic good dude.
@@im_bchen No because she was potentially ruining innocent peoples lives.
No she did that to herself she could have had men sent to prison dumbass
Imagine some guy would've committed a felony so definitely justified. That dude saved a man's life.
It's not what he did that's the problem, it's how he did it. It should have stayed between the two of them and maybe their parents. Involving so many other people is humiliating and pretty much guarantees that she will never trust him again. He has just permanently alienated his own sister.
@@wingracer1614 I mean, in between losing trust and losing a sister...
@@steveelproBut in the end of the day he still lost his sister. She will never see him in the same way again, and probably resent him for the rest of their lives. And it’s all his fault. While I’m not disagreeing that what she was doing was absolutely wrong, I’m also not gonna defend the brothers actions. She could’ve, and was very well on track to, ruin a man’s life. But the brother should’ve kept this as a family matter, and resolved it within their home by telling their parents. By doing what he did, especially out in public is one of the most embarrassing things that could happen to a person.
Dude she is 17 and trolling adult men depending on the state these guys could get jail time SHE deserves her public shaming for lying
you're a dumbass. when it comes to teaching someone a lesson it's not about what you think they deserve, it's about making sure they understand _why_ what they're doing is wrong, and that they completely grasp the gravity of the consequences their actions could cause. public shaming does none of that, all it does is create resentment and anger which could eventually lead to rebellious outbursts and worse behavior. I swear you people who think the point of a punishment is to make a person feel as bad as possible are the reason some kids go down some terrible paths.
I think involving his friends was too far, everything else was necessary.
Definitely both butt holes, but she is worse.
@@TALKINGtac0 In this case, there are no medium consequences for her to learn from. Most people, who make mistake of that kind, don't live to tell the story.
Some mistakes you can make only once in your life, and getting potentially raped/murdered by stranger is one of them.
@@ceu160193 I agree that the consequences here could have been fatal. But I stand by my point that public humiliation is not something that's gonna make her understand that. It's just going to make her resent her family for making her feel like a fool in front of strangers (granted, she did that herself but she won't see it that way). The best solution here would have been for the brother to tell his parents and for the parents to talk to her and give her some other punishment.
I don’t think OP was the A-hole for cat fishing his sister, she shouldn’t have lied about her age and she shouldn’t be trying to have intercourse with adult men, that being said it isn’t brother’s place to confront her about that, he should’ve left it to dad to take care of it at the restaurant, he did enough catching her trying to sleep with an adult. And bringing friend into it wasn’t right either
1) Her lying about her age is something the OP could have warned her about.
2) She would still go on with the sex thing regardless of her being of legal age most probably.
3) The brother was the best person to help her if hiding what she was doing was part of the plan, except he decided to have fun and told his friends.
4) The confrontation should have never been in a public place, she should have never left the house and the "talk" should have been had hours before she left.
5) Leaving it to the Dad might have been better but it is not clear how the relationship with her dad was.
6) Bring the friend was not the problem, telling the friend what it was for was. But I agree it would be better to not have aquaintance in the mix.
7) He was an AHole for spreading the word to his friends of what his sister was doing just for fun.
Miguel Melo Are you fucking kidding me “Just for Fun” if you didn’t know that is illegal a felony actually and I agree with most of the other stuff the brother shouldn’t have told his friends and it should’ve been in a private place but really that’s insane that girl is Super irresponsible who tf would do that is she really that desperate
Jesus, he went waaaaaaaay too far with it. He humiliated her and totally violated her boundaries. If he was worried about her, he should have had a heart to heart with her or even told her parents so they could talk to her. This was completely cruel. And then he and his friends laughed at it....? Smh.
GamerN0TFound • 7 years ago I should assume it’s in the USA because it seems that they though she was a minor
I posted this as a comment but whatever, For the last story I don’t think I would give OP 4/5 buttholes, here’s why: you were right saying that he went too far, +1 butthole; he did it in public, like what the heck dude, you could have just brought your sister back home and talked to her about it there, you did not need to do it in public, +1 butthole; you laughed about it with your friends, all the stuff before I might understand as brotherly love and protection, but apparently, you thought it was funny +2 buttholes; I guess it was with good intent and you were trying to teach her a lesson -1.25 buttholes. Total: 2.75 buttholes
I think the tinder thing was perfect for the sister. It showed her how easily someone could lie about who they are and with how naive she was, hurt her. Sure, she felt like an idiot. But she was being one.
R/ was right when he said he took it too far, though. I think letting it get to the restaurant, especially, was that step too far. He should have kept it private. It's very likely she's not going to trust him with things any more, during a time when she really needs her family. What else is she going to do and how much more carefully is she going to hide it now rather than if he had actually had a proper talk with her?
Hopefully he was able to still turn it around, but it's tough at that age. It feels even weirder for me since 16 is legal in my country, so in this the sister would be able to have sex without it being a problem. She still definitely shouldn't go meeting any guys from online without at least telling people in any case, even if she wasn't a minor :/
@Christopher yrump - I know as a teen I was called out publically for something that while not dangerous, was just very embarassing (it involved looking up certain types of sexual acts - nothing illegal but it was on my older sister's pc and I hadn't figured out to delete my history). It left me feeling unable to open up to anyone about anything in terms of sex as I came to see it as a very embarassing thing. I learned to get better at what I looked up and to hide it well. It has literally taken until my late twenties to even try to learn to be open again with the people that matter. I always think how much better it would have been if my sister had spoken to me in private so I would have known I'd have someone to open up about these things. We've since spoken a lot about this but, as I said, in my late twenties rather than my late teens.
While this girl hopefully takes home the lesson about internet safety, it does mean it's very likely she won't trust those around her with important things. It's how people often work. There are better ways to do these things and public humilation is not one of them. I even noted your 'at least for a while'. The second time, she's likely just going to be better at hiding it.
I agree
@@Mcyxof /r/suddenlyinalabama it could have took a turn in a different direction if the brother showed up alone to the resturant glad it didn't.
I think the brother and father both lack self-knowledge and are hypocritical. They both probably would have loved doing the same thing at the age of 17. Thus the response shouldn't be humiliation but a reasonable discussion where the possible pitfalls are explained. (They are also misogynic as they have the mindset that girls are something that needs to be protected)
The japan one - I'd let them get a little wet, then share my umbrella... Hey - they *are* your friend after all right? They can buy you a drink later as thanks!
THANK YOU! I completely agree. Almost every other comment is saying that the OP is not the asshole for not sharing, which i can agree with if the people weren't your friends or someone close. I would let them get rained on a little as punishment for not heading my warnings and then share so they don't get completely soaked. It also might come back to bite OP in the butt one day if OP ever needs one of them to share something with OP and they refuse because of the "umbrella incident".
@@grimday666 them being friends is irrelevant, their friend warned them and they ignored him, another comment gave this as the perfect example
A: Are you hungry, want something to eat
B: No, I'm fine, I'm not hungry
A: Are you sure you're not hungry, I'm not going to share my food if your saying you're not hungry and don't order
B: I'm sure I'm not hungry
A-Gets their food
B: Oh, that looks good I'll just have a bite
A: No, this is my food you could have gotten your own
Dude warned them that rain where they are is bad, and kept insisting they get a tool to keep them from dealing with discomfort and they brushed him off on it
@@egg3073 This is inaccurate. Food is a limited resource that costs you something when sharing it. The umbrella (OP explicitly mentioned 2 people could EASILY fit under it) could have been shared at no cost. OP might have had a bit of discomfort, but that is outweighed by being drenched and potentially ill (this is Japan's monsoon, not a light drizzle)
@@zoremhualngo5708 Yeah it can fit two people but OP warned them and told them the consequences of not heeding his warning. When the situation happened, he followed through with what he said was going to do when warning them, so it's their fault.
It's like if someone told someone.... Wait, that comparison probably will be inaccurate in your eyes.
Anyways, it doesn't matter that the umbrella can fit two people. OP warned them and followed through with what he said he would do in that situation. In fact, the two friends were warned multiple times in advance to get umbrellas, so it doesn't matter that the umbrella can fit 2 people.
@@egg3073 That example wasn’t accurate.
hi I generally do not comment bu,t no, just no, you do not come out of the closet at your sibling's wedding
It's a major asshole move. If you are comfortable enough to come out at the wedding, you should do it before so your sibling can have their proper wedding
Why should it matter? Personally of it was my wedding I wouldn't care in fac t I would consider 2 blessings on one day and it would be in everyone a bit closer and I be happy to share it with them
Flixytip because a wedding day is special and meant for it to be the bride and grooms day, it’s rude to attract the attention onto you when you’re supposed to be there for your brother and his wife, not to draw attention to yourself
I agree. It's like announcing you're pregnant or proposing at someone else's wedding.
Flixytip
They made it clear in the story that it would be a problem with their family. They don't need to worry about a family brawl at their wedding. Like the groom said, if he would just come out earlier they could weed through the people in their family they still would talk to.
Yeah
There’s a few things you don’t do
Propose at someone else’s wedding
Announce engagement or baby at someone’s wedding
And come out at a wedding
Basically anything that might be seen as a big announcement or something overly exciting
The last one is... eh? Cuz I'd say get permission first, do it ONLY with permission up front.
@@Ephra_wangai The wedding is about the bride and groom. Save your coming out for your time, not theirs.
Wtf rSlash? How is it the person's fault that their friends didnt prepare for the weather after numerous warnings?
Exactly, its their fault.
Nah fam he didn't have to be an asshole.anyways they already knew he was right in the end so
@@VariedadSandimelon People don't wanna listen to someone's warning, it's on them. I think the umbrella guy taught them a valuable lesson of 'being safe than sorry'.
My ma always told me that it's better to have something and not need it, than need it and not have it.
@@VariedadSandimelon he wasn't an ass "i'm not fucking sharing this, if you don't buy yourself one, it's going to rain dumbass" "nah i'm fine" *starts raining* "bro please"... Op wasn't an ass, the friends were entitled
In my opinion, the OP in that story is more concerned about being right than being a good friend
The one about the umbrella reminds me of a similar experience I had a few years ago:
I live north of San Francisco, living an hour away, my parents always used it as a "special outing" because we really couldn't afford to go somewhere else. It was mostly window shopping with each of us being allowed to pick one thing from a shop as our "Christmas present" and use our Christmas money to buy anything else we wanted. We would usually just walk around, ride the cable cars, go to Chinatown, stuff like that. My friend had never done that so, one Summer, I decided to give her the tour and as neither of us had cars she convinced two of her friends to join us and one of them would be the driver. Her two friends didn't live there but went to school there so I thought it would be great to have two extra guides. Before we went, I told my friend that the biggest rule when going into "The City" (as most of us call it) was, no matter the time of year or weather, to wear layers. San Fran being a bay city, despite being Cali, even when it's sunny it gets cold and can be even colder when windy. This means Winter was easy because of how foggy or cloudy it got people prepared better, but Summer was a trap because you'd expect it to be warm but most likely wouldn't be. So I went wearing a pair of sunglasses, a tank top, long sleeve shirt, vest with inner pockets (number two rule when going into the city, have your phone and wallet on your person and not in your bag or pants pockets, pro-tip from a friend, put your important cards and/or cash in your sock or shoe, no way anyone will think to check there), jacket, long pants, and brought a scarf, hat, and umbrella and a pair of shorts in my bag just in case. If I got too warm I could easily remove stuff (and switch into the shorts in a bathroom somewhere) and shove them into my bag, and add things back if I got to cold again. My friend only half listened to me coming in jeans, a shirt, an over shirt and hat. Before we left her house to catch a bus to her friend's, I asked her several times if she didn't want to change into something else or add more layers, or to at least bring a bag with layers in it just in case, but she just shrugged me off as her friends told her it was supposed to be sunny so she didn't need to go overboard. On the drive there, the two friends laughed at me the whole way, saying that I was being ridiculous. One of them was wearing a shirt and sweater and shorts, the other was wearing pants but a tanktop and flipflops. I told them to laugh all they wanted, but I was prepared and they'd regret it later. When we got to the city, they mentioned they had never walked across the Golden Gate so said that we should. I said "sure." We parked on the city side figuring we'd walk across and then back before heading into the city proper. It was nice and sunny and might have been warm if there wasn't so much wind coming in off the chilly bay. And because we were walking across the bridge we got the full force of the wind, rather then it being dampened a bit by buildings. They were all shivering and complaining the whole way. I had to start removing clothes part way as I was getting too warm! XD Halfway across they couldn't handle it anymore and asked if we could turn around. I shrugged and we did. When we got back to the car, they were like "we can't believe how cold it was, how did you know Harley?" And I was like "seriously? I used to come into the city once a year with my parents and my mom always made me wear this many layers. You two go to school here every day, how do you not know this?" And one of them sheepishly was like "well, we spend all day in a temperature controlled classroom." I told them they were idiots again, and we swung by a tourist shop so they could all buy sweatshirts, the exact reason why mom always made me layer up before we went to the city because she didn't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a blatant tourist trap of a sweatshirt when I had perfectly good sweatshirts at home.
"Or bride & bride, or groom & groom"
RSLASH SAID GAY RIGHTS
Honestly, the last one. i think the brother did the right thing. if I found out my sister was dating grown men while In highs school i would've been very pissed and probably would have done something similar.
After all,she is breaking the law. Was it extreme? Maybe but she won't forget it
Yeah! I would’ve and will do the same thing if my little brother did the same thing.
I would've done the same thing dude, rslash lost me on the last one, still love him tho
agreed , she probably got saved from an even worse fate
Jesus Christ. How would you feel if somebody went on your device, saw something very personal to you, and decided to do something like this to you?
For example, your sister sees that you are on social medias with a lot of chicks. You are currently 17 when this happens, but your sister is 21. She sets up a profile in social media and catfishes you. She meets you at a public area and breaks the news to you in a cocky and victorious voice.
Knowing that you have a problem, you end up sobbing, screaming and run out of the restaurant. If something happens to you, it's on her.
The same goes for the douche in this story. Never mess with family's private lives like this. He could have at least spoke to her about it. I mean, for fuck sakes. How could anyone do that to a family member? Then think they are right for doing it? I can tell you something right now, he lost her trust for many years to come.
This was the wrong way to deal with that.
On the other hand...Thinking about it more,
If she did go on a date with an older guy, and the guy had no negative intent, she could have gotten a man in serious trouble for nothing. Could have ruined his life, in fact.
Or, as I know a many feminists will try to already say, she could have been hurt, raped or killed by a man. Though, I find the likelihood of this to be much lower... I find it much more possible that she would want sex more than the man in this situation. You would be surprised how many people are just trying to find an actual relationship on tinder, not just sex.
This topic is highly controversial, as he did it there, he could have potentially saved her from being raped or hurt, or very possibly saved a man from having his life ruined. However, he lost her trust for a great sum of time. She will learn to forgive him though.
On the other hand,
If he just talked to her, or revealed that she was actually going on a catfished date with an older man, she would not be in public, so the possibility of her talking about it is increased. However, she will still be upset with you for exposing her infront of her parents.
Lastly,
If he had done nothing, he would be a total douche. Sorry, obligations as a brother are high. You have to protect your siblings from things like this. She would not have been upset with him, but much more damage could have been done. A man could have been arrested on false charges of rape or sexual assault, or even statutory rape, which would have been a true allegation, provided it was discovered before she turned 18.
Sometimes, there is no right answer. You just have to make a decision with the choices you have. He may have made the right decision, or he may not have. Who is to say what would have happened if any other choice was made? All I know is, as a brother, he made the right choice in doing something about it.
The umbrella dude isn’t a butthole, he warned them multiple times. They didn’t listen not their fault.
He should have asserted dominance by not getting an umbrella but a rain coat.
@@theduckgodwatchesoveryou8831 "lyriq"
@@theduckgodwatchesoveryou8831 the guy who got a rain coat was far from dry
Some people don't want to accept responsibility for their actions. The other two knew the risk but figured they'd shun it onto OP. 90% of the problems in America could be solved if people would be responsible enough to accept the consequences of their actions. Instead they want some else (usually the government) to do it for them and want to blame others.
There his friends tho like that’s what’s friends do you don’t mug them off and get them wet
6:55 Biiiitch what? 0/5 He said they would not be allowed to use it multiple times and urged them to get one. It's not OP's fault if his friends are stupid. This same situation happened before with a girl taking her sibling's food and you gave OP 0/5.
4yrs late but im so glad someone had the same reaction as I did
I can tell your mood by how you say *"welcome to rslash"*
6:47 Yo rslash. I too would have done the same thing. I mean, they did not heed his warnings, and since they had made their bed, now they gotta lay in it. So, if you agree, do what you want, like,dislike, I don't care.
Same. If I was the friend being warned and I didn't listen, I'd be more ashamed of myself for my own ignorance. Maybe we're not getting the whole story, but with what we have, I'd be embarrassed if I acted like that towards a friend that previously tried to help me and I actively ignored their warnings
I like that analogy “you made your bed, now you gotta lay in it”
right???? He warned them multiple times and they didn’t heed his advice. I’d say that even if it is YTA he was absolutely in the right.
Last guy is not a butthole, his sister was possibly jail-baiting someone, the punishment fit the crime.
Not to mention the sister met a complete stranger and planned to stay the night based off of profile pics... She could've been kidnapped, raped, and/or murdered
Agreed. Bringing the parents in like that *could* have been too much. But depends on the family. So I won't deduct anything there. But they did a good thing imho
I’m a 17 year old girl myself and I ABSOLUTELY agree. Not only does she need to know how dangerous it is to go home with strange men, but she’s making them unknowingly engage in pedophilia if they’re just nice dudes looking for a cute girl. I literally don’t know any girls my age who would be shitty enough to try this except the school thots
As someone who has a sister I would also completely humiliate my sister to get her off tinder.
The sister one with Tinder is kind of tricky.
1. If she did do something with an older guy (18 or over) wouldn't that guy get in trouble? Depending where she is, she's still a minor and could get the dude in serious trouble.
2. The brother and father didn't need to do that to her in public though. The proper thing would have been to take her home and scold her there. I know they want her to be safe and all, but at the same time, that should have been a private convo.
So its kind of a 40 - 60/50 - 50 thing here
Depends on the age of consent. In Sweden the age of consent is 15 and most wouldn't react to a 17 year old with a 22 year old. As long as consent is given it is fine. And being 17, she could have been a couple of months away from turning 18 or having just turned 17. It makes a difference.
The consent age is the least of the worries. That "22 yo guy" could've been a trap (murderer/rapist/...) and "sleeping" over with him while your parents think you're with friends is dangerous for these situations as well, as it would be much more difficult to localize her in a life-threatening situation. They really didn't need to do that in a public place, even less in a restaurant, so at least 2-3/5 buttholes for that.
Just another day in Alabama.
:)
*I don't want another day. No more.*
Clapping my cousin cheeks
Internet in a Nutshell Channel You just got 17 likes in 3 seconds
Why Alabama? West Virginia is way worse, it's not even a problem in Alabama.
STORY#2. mother is dating bossy boyfriend only less than a year???
It happens, i saw a movie once where the current wife was ill and husband was gonna be with another woman when she passed(i don't FULLY remember the movie but it was clear that one woman was wifey and one was girlfriend, and the kids even knew and were fine), sorta like wife was saying 'id rather you have someone here to help you when i pass then be grieving alone. ' the girlfriend even tried to get to know wife and kids so they'd all be on the same page and understand eachother. I cant remember the movie name but i remember that much.
Could be a rebound out of grief, lots of people do it.
my mom and father have been separated for 12 years, and my father passed recently. shes been dating someone for a while now, since before my dads passing. we've all lived together since they started dating. i hate it, but it happens.
KnittingGirl28 I think that was Stepmom with Julia Roberts. It sounds like the basic plot, except the parents were divorced for a while (and he was dating his new girlfriend) when they found out the mother had cancer.
@@KnittingGirl28 I saw a movie like that once. It was set on a farm in the 1800s and starred Farrah Fawcett, who was the girlfriend, and Lea Thompson as the wife. Good movie.
I have never heard a case where two “parents” tried to go no-contact with a child!
I’m sorry, no, you did terrible things, you don’t get to choose to be no contact
nah fuck that shit. they are your parents. the fuck do you want him to do. you cant fucking cut off contact with your son because of your mistake.
Last story, since when does a sister at 17 listen to anyone? They are at that age where they know everything. Sure, he would have been better off reporting her profile to tinder, who would remove and delete it. He also should have told and shown the parents about the profile and let them handle it.
Trust or no it is his place to keep his siblings safe, even from themselves.
@@im_bchen I did state what he should have done in my comment. It is difficult to change a mind that is set on making its own choices regardless of outside guidance. Public humiliation is the splitting maul that can seperate families and make influencible minds impossible to reach by those who need reach it most, no the bother's choice of action was not advisable.
@@im_bchen As I said, public embarrassment is never a great teaching aid. I have to conclude that you then mean to say the parents should have stayed out of the matter all together and the brother should then have tried to deal with his sister on his own? I feel parents have a responsibility to their children to steer them away from bad decisions in life, be they 7 or 70. Your parents should always be a fount of advice for you.
I fear that what you seem to suggest is part of the very thing wrong with the world today as a whole. A child is the parents chance to mould a life into the very best they can be, hopefully at the very least to do better than their parents; no matter how well their parents may have already done.
Okay, say the brother handled it solo, how do you suggest that should have gone?
You're right, 17 year olds usually don't listen, at least unless a lot of attention is involved (i.e. "Imma be popular", "You ruined my reputation", etc.), so the public humiliation thing kinda seems up her alley
@@im_bchen how old are you believing it's ok for 17 year olds to lie about their age
@@im_bchen
How about this
Instead of going to the restaurant,make Kevin(the guy who the pictures was based off) go to the restaurant.Talk a bit(Nonsexual stuff of course).After their "date",Kevin then drives the Sis home where OP and their father is waiting for them.OP then address Kevin and Kevin responds back(kinda of showing that the sis that this was planned).Then let them go inside and then start the humiliation >:)
Keeps the main message clear as day while removing what seems to be the only problem with the story(the public humiliation part)
How about it?
I 100% DISAGREE about the umbrella in the rain! He warned them that the rain was serious business, and they ignored him. He suggested they buy umbrellas, and they ignored him. He warned them that he would be keeping his umbrella for himself, and they ignored him.
Yes, I would be pissed to get soaked. But I'm also mature enough to recognize when something is actually my own fault.
Umbrella guy is 1/5 buttholes TOPS.
(Edited because I had hit Enter instead of Space somewhere).
He could leave them 5 min in rain to teach them a lesson not an hour
@@plaste3875
So they're already soaked, and then he sacrifices some of his own dryness to prevent an already soaked guy from what exactly? The impact of the rain?
Should have listened.
@@Richard_Nickerson he said huge umbrela and he should just get them wet bcs thet dont listen not an hour he was kinda an ass hole
@@plaste3875 Other people's comfort is not my responsibility if it's at the expense of my own comfort, especially if they are warned beforehand about how it's going to play out. I will not pay for the stupidity of others. It's their own fault. Even if it was a big umbrella, I'm not going to do that stupid two person or 3 person shuffle under a single umbrella because then I, the person who didn't intentionally ignore the opportunity to prepare for the oncoming fuckery, would get wet. The other 2 people were idiots and willfully ignored the warning; thus, are responsible for the consequences of their decisions. This was a life lesson that they needed to learn at some point: Preventative measures and self-accountability.
@@IndieGamerMonkey chill out , they were his friends and he was a jerk
Could’ve been worse for the Tinder guy; he and his dad could’ve pulled up in a van and kidnapped her to really “teach her a lesson.” Barf!
SEGASister genius
"Am I the ***hole for abducting my sister, taping her to the wall naked for 3 days and deleting her puppy photo collection to teach her a lesson?"
are you crazy? are you out of your mind?
Galen Marek the last part is too far
@@GalenMarekOfficial deleting her puppy collection, only a psychopath would do such a heinous thing.
If the brother hadn't went to those lengths to teach his 17 yr old sister the lesson of not meeting strangers, she wouldn't have learned anything.
And what exactly has she learned? That her brother is a deceitful, petty, rat fink, prick? All she will learn from this is that she HAS to keep her life secret because her brother will rat her out and humiliate her if she doesn't. She hasn't learned anything about the dangers of meeting up with strange men on tinder because that never happened.
I think in the wedding one it would have been worth it to ask his future wife how she felt about the situation
Check the link to the original post, op did talk to his wife and she did agree with him.
KnittingGirl28 oh okay then yeah I don’t think he’s the antagonist
@@lexihatter4937 i tried to check comments in that link and couldn't foe some reason but he did send a warm thank you to one person (whom he does not name) that said they wish a mass shooter shows up at his wedding.
@@KnittingGirl28 wth thats messed up... Unless that guy is racist, superior-race, or a criminal her/himself
Lexi Hatter Yeah, I thought that, though he’d have to handle it carefully so that she doesn’t look like the butthole instead. The gay brother was being kinda naive, at best.
She humiliated herself by screaming in the middle of a restaurant.
Chlober I completely agree. Plus she could have Been kidnapped, raped, or even killed. So I don’t think the dad and brother were overstepping or being rude at all.
0/5 buttholes for older brother catfish
I mean she's fucking underage
Not 0/5 but 2-3/5. While it got the point across, it was clearly a bit harsh.
Still you can manage that without having her to go to restaurant. In the moment she told her parents that she was going to stay with a friend, was the perfect time to tell her that she was catfished. that they know her real plan and the dangers of meeting with strangers that way, specially because she is underage.
There.
In their house, in private, as a family.
Damn, he could just told their parents that she had a Tinder profile where she is lying and show them the proofs, I am pretty sure the account will be banned after a call. And the fake date was over the top, I am not sure how their parents were OK with it. Now she was not thinking about the dangers, but how her family humiliated her, how everybody around knows what happened, how a lot of people will be talking about how many dates she had before she was caught and lots of nasty stuff.
And she will be very mad. If she ends running away with a meth head in the next two months and ruins her life, her family was the one to blame because they did´t know how to manage a situation, even if they had the time to think what they are going to do with her.
Rslash... The umbrella guy is not the butthole because he TOLD his friends to buy one
I would give him 2 out of 5 buttholes because he did warn them, yes. But it stated they the umbrella could easily cover 2 people so I do feel like he should have had the guy/girl without anything, get under the umbrella with him.
@@uncomfysilence3364 or they can buy a 3 dollar umbrella
Teaching a sibling about online dating by pretending to be someone else is about as effective as teaching the car in front of you how to drive by tailgating them.
Well I kinda support what the last guy did because not only was she lying about her own age but she didn't hesitate to go to meet strangers where she in worst case could be assaulted or kidnapped. People are way too stupid and trusting when it comes to social media. For all you know, a 50 y/o creep could be on the other side of the screen, waiting to drag you into his van.
yes!! I think the OP in the last one is ok
I agree that he was doing it to protect her and it's good for her to learn that people (predators in particular) could use anyone's photo to lure her into meeting them. I think where he was a dick was that he and his dad lectured her in public which would have been so humiliating. Like could they not have done it at home or at the very least in the car on the way home?
I agree in supporting the last guy. The fact that she was that willing & receptive means she's probably done that before, & if she was lying about her age & in high school, she's probably only 16-17, which could cause legal trouble for the guys, too. I'm in my 20s, and I still wouldn't agree to go to a stranger's house first date. That combined with her lying about where she was going is a perfect recipe for her to end up gone forever. I do think they should have lectured her at the house instead of in public though...
One of my female cousins ended not only pregnant but also being extorted by a total stranger (not the baby's bio-dad) who stole her then boyfriend's phone. Her family found out about the last part when a 40ish-50ish old f-er showed up at their door asking to "see my son". So yeah, I'd rather be an a-hole and public humilliate her than having her raped/pregnant/extorted/murdered by a suposedly prince charming on-line
17 is not a baby. She was going on a date with him first, she may have decided not to have gone back to his place. It was none of her sister's business. The same thing could happen to an 18 year old and older. Are we going to ban them from using tinder? The sister could have just sat down and said in an open and honest way why she thinks that she shouldn't be using tinder, and that's it.
I don't think the catfishing story was actually that much off a butthole. Yes, he really upset her, but I feel like you have to to get the message across. You absolutely cannot be going out and trying to meet with grown adult men online as a seventeen year old girl, at least not without telling your parents where you're going! If something happened to her, or she went to this guy's house and got kidnapped, her parents would have absolutely no clue where she was, who she could have been talking to or why she wasn't where she should have been. It's a message that really needed to be got across.
If it's to teach her a lesson, yes. But he went too far when he told all his friends to have a laugh. Also, teaching someone a lesson doesn't need to be out in public. No one needs to be torn down for others to watch.
@@nooneisahero594 I'd rather be embarrassed than on a "Missing" poster.
@@RRRX18 Nobody's saying that the brother should have done nothing, but the way he went about teaching her a lesson was absolutely bhole. I'm guessing her bad judgement in how to approach dating comes from the same place as the brother's judgement on how to teach lessons. They take things to the extreme, and this kind of lesson is more likely to just escalate that even more in the future.
@@gekko513 Dude, I have 2 little sisters. One day at a mall, one of em tried to play a joke by sneaking merchandise into her pocket. I chewed her out for that. Reason? People were around and, well, we're black.
"2 black teens putting unpaid items in their pockets" ain't a good look.
She knows that now. She never did it again.
@@RRRX18 The brother handled it well until he starts sharing it to his friends like it's a trophy tale.
You're speaking in terms of 'what could have happened and what was prevented'-- but you're also forgetting that he probably asked the public opinion because the consequences of his actions are catching up to him. Public shaming was not necessary at all. Especially for a young teen who starting to be conscious of themselves. A grown man (23?) and their father thinks it's appropriate to lecture her in full view for a restuarant to watch? Does teaching someone a lesson need to be made public to be effective?
Like you said, he's rated 1/5 a Asshat. So he should eat that cookie like how he pranced around with his storytelling. Since he never consider lashback of how his sister will respond back, whether she cut ties with the family, suicide, or develop psychological issues in the future-- obviously that's not important enough to be in consideration.
I completely disagree with the last one
R/ you do realize that any man she met up with on tinder and had any kind of sexual relationship with would go to jail since she is underage
If she was 18 it'd be a different story but she was 17 lying about her age which could have ended with other people getting in iail
I think the problem is the public humiliation, not the confrontation. She definitely needed a talking to about this, but not in a public place surrounded by strangers.
@@Arkalius80 yea but I feel like considering people could have had their entire lives ruined by her doing this he isn't a complete asshole I think maybe 2/5 for choosing the wrong setting but like he may have saved some people from criminal charges
Arkalius80 The humiliation would keep her from ever trying that shit again. Plus they’re complete random strangers she’ll never see again
IMO it doesn't take away the buttholes for him, but makes her 5/5 buttholes for trying something like that. There are way better ways to handle something like that.
@@davidsprague6578 My impression was that rSlash was giving him the asshole score purely because of the venue chosen to reprimand the sister.
Listening to the commentary at the end of the wedding one made me happy. We love a supportive RSlash
I dont think the last one was that bad. The friend part definitely was jerk mode but if he had brought the tinder thing up to her and not done the fake account she would have just denied she was going to see them and going to their places. Thats like super dangerous. When she was about to leave he should have stopped her but i dont think hes a huge ass for proving what she was going to do and how easy it can be to lie about who u are online.
Madi S I agree with everything you said
Really liked the breakdown of there only needing to be 2 people at a wedding but you need 3 or 4 because you need someone to marry you and most of the time you need a witness
...the one brother's sister could've had a guy sent to prison wtf?
that was my first thought too.
Didn't a hacker trick an athlete into sleeping with an underage model or something
@@mostar1219 I remember that story. I saw a video of it here on YT awhile back.
Nope, she's recorded online giving her age as 19, consenting age everywhere. The case would be dismissed.
@@bcaye All she needs to do is prove her age, and the case is closed. He would be found guilty.
That girl that thought the guy & his brother cuddling is disgusting needs to get her head checked because she has a perverse mind.
The way this guy cares for his brother just shows that he will be a good father one day & any son or daughter would be lucky to have him.
"There are a thousand different ways of how you could have taught her the danger of that situation..." name 5 that are effective.
Exactly. Were he to try a majority of the "thousand different ways," she'd be back on in a week at tops.
1. The hard way
2. Just tell the parents
3. Talk to her yourself
4. The freaking law
5. Sweet home alabama
@@toomanybagels you *seriously* believe that saying, "hey you shouldn't be doing that* would work with anybody.
Really.
The hard way is out of the question, him or his parents telling her to stop would outright not work and if you think it would you're on some of that good stuff, and that last one kinda falls under the first.
You just talk to her. She will be 18 soon and will have to make her own decisions. So now instead of learning why she shouldn't be doing something, they laughed at her and publically humiliated her. Talk to her like an actual person. Humiliation just guarantees that if something happens to her(sexual assault, abuse, etc) she won't trust her family to not be angry at her.
@@Recoil1808 "The hard way" was not telling anybody about it and letting it happen bro
get clapped
Honestly I don't think the brother deserves that high of a score. Yeah, confronting her in the restaurant and bringing his friend into it were butthole moves, but she needed to learn. Roughly 250,000 women and young teens go missing in a year, and a lot of those are due to them meeting the wrong person online. OP's sister could've been one of those girls. At most he deserves only 2 out of 5 buttholes.
I don't think her age matters in that situation, she could have been 18, 24 even 30 and it could have happened. It's more that she's lying to the guys, and they could get in trouble for something they didn't realise they were doing with a minor.
Shame is not the right way to teach dude , he deserves those buttholes + in the story he said it would be funny so it was more about having fun than teaching her a valuable lesson
The girl in the last one needs her phone taken away. That was extremely stupid of her!
the brother still went too far
@@MakeUte I could see how it was bad to snitch, but I'd rather embarrass my sister than just sit idly as I know she's in possible danger.