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How ATLUS Got Dante From Devil May Cry Into Shin Megami Tensei III: NOCTURNE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- In 2003, two of the most popular video game series in their respective genres, Megami Tensei and Devil May Cry, had a legendary crossover allowing the Demifiend to face Dante. To this day, the event is widely beloved by the fanbase and helped cement Nocturne as one of the most iconic games in the series, but people rarely discuss how this actually happened in the first place. This video investigates every public detail about the development process that birthed the collaboration between ATLUS and Capcom.
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Editor: Petabik
Scans: VeskScans
Special Thanks: Dijeh, Faz, Larrue, Nathan, Raccoon, Spider, and Spooks
Executive Producer & Voice Acting: @MarshSMT
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Track List:
Video Continuity (Devil May Cry 3)
Ancient Castle Stage (Devil May Cry 1)
Joint Struggle (Shin Megami Tensei III: NOCTURNE)
Cathedral (Devil May Cry 1)
Divinity Statue (Devil May Cry 5)
Chapters:
Intro - 0:00
Background - 0:38
ATLUS's Proposal - 1:57
Yamai Persuades Capcom - 3:37
Collaboration - 6:07
Nocturne Appearance - 6:51
Setting Document - 7:30
Conclusion - 10:22
While DMC and SMT are both very different types of games, I do still think it's really neat how they got Dante to specifically be in Nocturne, seeing as he's technically half demon half human, it makes for a pretty neat pearler to the Demi-Fiend.
Also, hearing that Atlus staff were feeling that gaming was getting stagnant around the PS2 era is really really funny, considering how much worse that issue is now, with many looking at the PS2 era as really creative these days
God I miss when originality was widely applauded by most everyone
Dante is the closest Kid Capes got in years to actually talk about superheroes
Where's the Mister Miracle video, Kid Capes? The streets need it!
ok crossdress already
One thing that made Dante really work as a character in Nocturne is the fact that in this world, where everyone is on a specturm of angry, depressed, scared and greedy, Dante seems to be the only one enjoying himself. He doesn't care about the world or its politics, he is just having a blast in the apocalypse with his guns and sword. Going around, challenging people to fights, jumping off buildings, killing monsters.
He is a very relaxed and fun character in a game, where every character that isnt a manakin is very likable and always serious. This makes him stand out
Dante in Nocturne acted more in character than DMC2 Dante
"Bros check out my fanfic of our two lads fucking around, isn't this sick?" -> "Hell yeah, let's do it" -> It actually happens
Man... I miss old video games...
Modern Atlus be like " let's put in a new cute girl to draw in people who didn't play the original." 2000 Atlus be like, "let's put in Dante from devil May cry. He will shoot the protagonist with Ebony and ivory and then jump off a building to hunt demons."
The last time I saw game devs doing crossovers just for fun was when Mort the Chicken showed up in Pizza Tower.
Dante being in SMT3 is how I found out about the series. I was a dumb kid obsessed with DMC, and I looked up games with Dante in them and saw that he was in an RPG. I ended up picking up a copy in a used game store and then preceded to get my ass kicked by the game because I had no idea what I was doing.
Tbf as much fun as smt 3 can be, it does an awful job establishing game mechanics, and the difficulty spike for your first candelabra fight is absurd
@@Christopher-eq1rn Nah I think it's overblown. The press turn system is pretty well laid out and Matador can be taken down with a good number of buffs and force resistance. I actually just fought him the other day sort of in anticipation for Vengence.
@@gameguy1337 that's the thing, matador is very early in the game, and nothing up to that point has needed a strategy beyond hitting it's weakness repeatedly. Mind you I'm fully aware the nues you can get a few rooms back are super useful against him, but considering he can very easily 2 shot demifiend without prior prep work makes it a big spike rather than a gradual process
And yeah press turn is decently explained, but recruitment doesn't explain any of the nuances (especially the recruitment demon abilities), let alone the importance of buffing in nocturne
As a fan of DMC, I'm pretty sure this game is how I found out about SMT. I really want to give it a shot, especially since they don't really make RPGs like this anymore!
good work, proud of you and March
As far as DMC references go in SMT3, the only one I could find is this:
By the time the player is able to recruit Dante, Dante asks to flip a coin and play a simple game of heads or tails.
If you win, he joins for free. If you lose, he gets half the players current money.
The coin is double sided. Meaning it will always be the same right/wrong choice everytime.
This is a reference to a scene near the end of DMC 2 where Dante pulls the coin out for Lucia to decide who should jump into a portal to fight Argosax and thus be trapped in the underworld.
Lucia picks, and Dante wins. Thud heading in himself to finish the fight. Tossing her the coin as a parting gift. Upon inspecting it, she sees he set her up with the coin being double sided, ensuring he had to fight on her behalf.
In SMT3, Dante further references this if you guess right saying something like "ha! So you've seen this trick before!"
(I can't for the life of me remember if it was a double sided heads or double sided tales, I played DMC2 in like 2017)
Its double sided heads
Kid Capes nation please stand up
Kid Capes Nocturne Maniax featuring March from the Setting Document series
I love how in the Switch port Reuben did voice acting to Dante
Honestly, I never thought about why the Collab happened up until now. Thank you!
For anyone looking for a transcript of the document to read along with for the video, there's one included on my tumblr post: www.tumblr.com/kidcapes/752288472879054848/how-atlus-got-dante-from-devil-may-cry-into-shin
10:30-10:40 fucking WHAT? The 2000s is THE decade of crossovers! Fighting games ALONE were at their height for this reason.
Life is good with a new Kid Capes video. Thank you for doing this research!
i love small ass videos like this from channels with less than 5K subscribers
I like how whenever dante flips the coin in smt3 its always heads since the coin is double sided heads in dmc2
This was so interesting. We need another crossover of this magnitude in SMT.
Thank you for this.
Your best bet for now is Dx2. They even have a collaboration with Berserk ongoing as we speak.
nice, i was just talking about this somewhere the other day. I don't know much about it other than the Dante design was featured in marvel vs capcom 3. The Kaneko devil triggers look slick. Kaneko's DDS phase I guess.
Glad that they chose DMC2 Dante for that collab
You can say all about DMC2 but that outfit for Dante is AMAZING!
My favorite to this day and I am always upset of why Capcom never put that version of Dante in other crossovers like Marvel vs Capcom, instead they put DMC3 Dante which is in my opinion, Dante's worst design ever.
Duuuuuuude, same, I don't like Dante's DMC3 design at all, so seeing it everywhere is really grating for me, who likes his DMC2 design the best.
I mean, just look at my pfp, lol.
yeah true design wise, DMC 2 Dante is very Cool & badass AF
Nice vid. I had no idea about most of this before.
Marsh jumpscare
so there’s actually another reason this happened in the original version of Nocturne Raidou Kuzunoha would show up in place of Dante but those games hadn’t come out in the west when knocked was released to the west they needed a character about the west was familiar with which is how we ended up with Dante and those devil trigger designs would actually go on to be used in DMC 3 that’s why in that game in particular the devil trigger designs look like SMT demons because they were designed by the same people
You have the timeline wrong. Nocturne Maniax released in 2004, Raidou didn't even exist as a character until 2006. The version of the game you're referring to is Nocturne Maniax Chronicles, which released in 2008 as an add-on to the limited edition of Raidou 2.
This collaboration is truly something special
I really want to see Dante again in SMT
glibbbothy
the best devil trigger design in DMC 3
I remember being 18 shocked about the feature.
I'm glad i got to see it in Real time😊
You could’ve just put the Vinny clip where he goes “DONTE IS GUD” and I would’ve believed you lmfao. Great vid though, you and marsh did great :D
I'm helping!
Would love to see Bayonetta appear in a future SMT game tbh
If you're interested, she's in Dx2.
U gotta play DMC bro!!
Marsh Cameo???,??!??!?!?(!??,?,)?????
Common glib banger
His name is Louis Cyphre? 😆
Yup, nothing suspicious here. I´m sure you can trust him, Dante.
"Immediately starts working on an enhanced version" .....why is atlus like this
Nice video, but why did you not once mention Raidou who was the extra character in the Japanese version 😅 ?
Because that's a different version of the game. I was talking about Nocturne Maniax that released in 2004. You're referring to Nocturne Maniax Chronicles, which was released in 2008 as an addon for the limited edition of Raidou 1.
@@KidCapes Ah dear, sorry, I didn't know there were that many version of the game.... geee 😵
Dante was supposed to be in Soulcalibur 3, I wish it happened.
hi glibbin
How broken the skill called Rebellion
Play Devil May Cry
In my opinion Maniax Chronicle Edition is the better version of Nocturne cause Raidou is better than Dante in every way
The answer to this is very simple : money.
Can you explore the mystery of how they got so much mid packed into Persona 4
You meant Persona 5? They made a whole character based on that.
Easy. Style first and foremost. Then dating high schoolers.
Stop the P5 hate@@Garchomp47
@@Garchomp47 At least Persona 5 doesn't have dedicated sleeping aid characters. I end up falling asleep whenever the sentient pieces of drywall named Yukiko and Chie are speaking.
@@cifers8928 Persona 4 isn't censored like P5, so it wins.