There's an old TH-cam clup of Serena as a little girl being asked who is her idol and she says Monica Seles. Now imagine what a dream come true this has to be for her. Amazing.
@Philip Stacey you obviously don’t know the difference between a frying pan and a tennis racquet...so go drink water from the toilet like you’re used to doing.
@Ilya Kuryakin jealous again you freak because Serena's idol is Monica, not that sore loser queen graf? 🤣🤣🤣 no tennis player on the planet would idolize grafs outdated stylenand soreness of character.
What an incredible match between two legends! I would have loved to witness these two go at it at their prime levels. Serena in 2012/2015 vs. Seles 1991-1993
Resoect her. I can not forget that criminal guy & injustice law who let him live free & imprisones. That is the worst tragedy in tennis history & so weird
She was totally out of shape, years later she would recognize that her stabbing cause her severe anxiety AND therefore she had an eating desorder, It was just until her retierement that she was able to heal AND work on her mental health, since then she looks so slim.
As a (massive) Graf fan it still saddens me to see Seles not really be given her due by the wider sporting and even tennis public. I feel she's too often forgotten. Along with Graf, Serena and Evert she was THE toughest mentally to ever step on the court and out of those four possibly the most fearless. She's too lionised by her own fanatics (who talk about 30+ slams as if it was a given without the stabbing) and forgotten by the rest. Her legacy isn't fully appreciated and I'd like to see that rectified. We can never know what 'may have been' but despite what we, and she, lost there is an ENORMOUS amount that should be remembered and celebrated.
+Inediblehulk but one thing for sure that everybody can agree on, graf would not have 22 slams if it wasn't for the stabbing. graf probably would end up somewhere between 15 to 18 grand slams.
Absolutely! I hate that she is severely overlooked when she was pretty much THE tennis player to beat between say, '91 and early '93. I hate to try to guess "what could have been" but that's all one can think of in regards to that particular part of her career. While she was still pretty much a top-ten player for the rest of her career, I'd like to see her mentioned more in the annals of history for her sheer awesomeness before her injury. I think what sucks even more is that a certain rival of hers was so against her having a protected ranking when she returned to the sport. Venting aside, she easily one of my top three favorite players to watch of all time.
Unfortunately, she's forgotten for the same reason Graf is remembered & celebrated, because of Seles' stabbing. Yes, we'll never really know what Monica would've or could've accomplished but we know about the 22 Grand Slams Graf won largely because of Seles' absence from the game due to her being stabbed. Seles beat Graf at the 1993 Aussie Open then she got stabbed & Graf won the 1993 French Open, Wimbledon & US Open, the 1994 Aussie Open, 1995 French Open & Wimbledon and Monica returned to the tour to compete vs Graf at the 1995 US Open Finals but lost. At least 6 Grand Slams were won by Graf that Seles could have won if she were not stabbed. Steffi Graf would still have been a legend just like Monica Seles but she would not have 22 Grand Slams in her trophy case. Had Monica Seles never been stabbed both she & Steffi Graf probably would have won 15 or 16 Grand Slams.
+stevie69ful I prefer to think they would've gone closer to 18/19 each. Perhaps done a Fed and Nadal and just won EVERYTHING between them for a few years. Had they both stayed fit I do think there's every reason to assume ASV, Pierce, Hingis,Novotna and Majoli wouldn't have won any of the slams they got bewteen '94 and '98. This is obviously an 'alternate timeline' kind of deal and maybe Graf wouldn't have been injured in 97 and 98 so while she may not have won the 10 slams she got in 94-96 she may have perhaps won more in that 97,98,99 period. Seles would've kept going strong too. Who knows. All I know is we missed some GREAT matches. THeir 92 FO and 93 AO (argh both to Seles in an arm-wrestle!) were taking women's tennis to new levels.
+Inediblehulk no1 should ever forget the tragedy that happened to Seles. She was dominating the slams and got stopped by a term you use for the seles fans, a fanatic. just think about it- Novak is winning the slams now and then someone stabs him so federer or nadal can win more slams. ITS JUST NOT RIGHT Now who is to say seles would have won more slams but I could bet my house that she would have won more in 1993 at least.
Ilya Kuryakin I’ll pass on the greatest benefactor of Seles’s stabbing. Steffi probably arranged it. To bad Steffi couldn’t reach that “level” when she lost to Seles at the 92 French.
What a sensational match! I really miss tennis like this. Absolute hell for leather full throttle lights out tennis: just look at the reaction of the crowd - they were buzzing. You can even here Jo Jurie, the female voice, saying that it was one of the best matches she had seen in her life. This kind of tennis is inspirational. It's true, as one person noted, that Seles really was the mother of the power-hitting off both wings, Serena and Venus, in my opinion, her natural successors who took her inspiration to greater heights. The influence Seles had on the game was transformational: even on the men's game too, because of her power, passion, focus and fearlessness. Those are qualities that anyone can look up to in life, and it's what Seles will always be remembered for.
@@mrrogers302 without watching it is impossible to make your judgement. Im Tennis fan and watch Stuff..maybe you can only say positive Things and watch things were you only see greatness...then lucky you
Serena was so much quicker back then compared to now. She could really cover ground, able to win some magnificent rallies here as a result. I miss this young version of Serena. Joy to watch.
These were the days that Serena was "too powerful". She could hit you off the court or miss shots by a mile. 2001, (I think) is the year that she learned to reign in her power.
Nobody will be the GOAT. After a while someone new comes up to beat the old records. Anyway you can't compare the times. I guess it's more justice to leave everybody their time. So there's a Court time, Evert time, Steffi time, Seles also had her time, Hingis, Serena, and who knows what will come up with Naomi etc.
Alyssasrealm Why do you continue to open your mouth with idiotic remarks?? Serena is and will always be the G.O.A.T. None of the newer ladies can consistently play a tournament...and when was the last time any one besides Serena played a GS and won it consecutively? Serena has an all around game...perfect serve, awesome return of serve, lethal groundstrokes, amazing overheads, superb drop shots....and on top of all that she's a mental powerhouse....she's the best come back player ever....none of the newer ladies can compare..not one....and I highly doubt any one of these ladies will reach double digits for GS wins...this is why Serena will reign forever...
Jo Buck87 yeah with the unfortunate born physical conditions she has and all the ‘medicine’ she has to and was granted to take, she’s definitely the best!
huahua290 You are clearly delusional and apparently ignorant. Please silence your moronic remarks until you learn better...which I suspect will be February 31st...pathetic troll...
Seles is the greatest of all time. At 17, she already had 4 grand slams under her belt. At 19, she had total of 8 grand slams. She was such a dominant force. There’s no question in my mind that she would’ve smashed the record 24 grand slams. How magnificent is she even in this loss against Serena. I don’t have to wonder, I know she would’ve smashed that record at a record breaking age.
@@joeyconvery2055 Hmmm 23 slams vs 9 and no Wimbledons. Tough choice, LOL! 15 year old Serena in 1997 even won two 6-1 sets vs Seles in their first ever match. And many players are better than their childhood idol. Graf's childhood idol was Goolagong.
The first set alone made my pulse and heart beat fast. What a great match. Miss Monica on the tour. I'd love to see what she'd do against today's players.
Gabriela Sabatini was the only top level player who supported Seles co ranking- other lesser players who benefitted from her tragedy- looking at u arantxa- didnt support it. telling and sad- Seles is such a champion
Monica's progression was brutally stopped with the attack in Germany. Remember that she was still a child when that happened. She never was the same. But apart from that she is the best young player in history.
Seles put up a hell of a fight-especially as her career was winding down by then. She played her last professional match about 24 months after this. She really showed what she was made of. She had to have been at least 8 years older than Serena. Watching Serena play-power, awesome lethal serve, speed, athleticism, net game- wow. I cannot think of anyone who could have beat her playing at her best. A lot of those one two side to side angled shots from Seles would have finished a point with so many players but Serena was so young and so fast. Both great ladies of tennis. Thanks for putting this out there.
I don’t know, but I’d say these two are THE GREATEST women’s tennis players EVER. Steffi Graf, Martina Navratilova, Helen Wills, Simuzanne Lenglen are close.
I think Monica was to first to really get up to ANY short ball and take it on the rise. Of course there were many power players, but the way Monica played is standard nowadays. A legend!
When you look back at all the opponents Serena has had to face in her career, you kind of understand why she knows she can beat anyone when she plays her best lol
Yeah buddy! And the kinds of complete playes. Davenport Capriati Venus Williams Seles Hingis Pierce Henin Clijsters These were not one dimensional players. Each of these have won multiple slams and have complete all-court games. I think Serena beats the competition so easily because she doesn't "really" have to think that much about it. Sharapova doesn't have a plan B. Nor does Kvitova or the others. Radwanska and Wozniacki I think have the most complete game out of the new players but they just dont have the firepower.
Mr. Jupiterjazz you can also include Graf as Serena defeated Steffi in their last head to head match. If I was not mistaken, Graf defeated her in Sydney of 1999, but Serena defeated her later on in indian wells 1999.
oh my goood i remember this match and the glorius time of women tennis, it all passed ... really missing and seles no matter who thinks but you are best of all time for me, you made me love tennis
seles' game was never the same after the incident. before that, she stayed right at the baseline all the time and hardly hit one-handed shots. her overall movements and aggressiveness were not at the same level.
Ilya Kuryakin Of course, someone has a different opinion than yours and you have to chime in. If you haven’t checked lately, Serena now has MORE GS titles than Graf. Our only consolation is Graf reign as the Open Era leader was short, replaced by Serena.
People talk shit about the golden age of women tennis. They are still the same Serena and Venus playing today. Not like new sets of guys came in. Tennis stays tennis but it is just faster now. The world has also gone faster just lile every other sport (football and race). Serena is older than Seles and Steffi here and she is still beating wannabees. She and Venus pushed so many greats to retirement and still doing so today. Serena is the greatest of all time
I have this match on VHS somewhere! I remember watching it in 2001 and it was probably one of the best matches of that season. It was amazing, high-quality tennis. This was the summer that Seles was playing great tennis and even beat Serena a few weeks before in LA. In the next round, Serena beat Capriati in the final, who had beaten Serena 4 straight times before, and after that Serena had Capriati's number for awhile, too.
I don't think Seles is forgotten. Everybody knows her, people know how good she was, the whole world knows that both, Seles' and Graf's career would have gone a different route without the stabbing. The one who's really forgotten is Margaret Court. Even now, with Williams getting closer to the ultimate number of GS wins, they talk about Graf and Williams, never about Court - who's got the record. By the way, I don't think Seles would have surpassed Court's record, I think she would have retired before. However she would have more than Graf.
Finally, someone I can agree with, one this topic. Steffi Graf was a good player in her own right, however if Monica Seles didn't get stabbed in the Hamburg tournament back in 1993. She could have won multiple majors. Even up to 20, the girl was to bad in the early 90's.
Court is underrated for the same reason Navratilova is so ovverrated. Navratilova being a lesbian is overrated and overpraised simply for being a lesbian. These days people are obsessively in love with the LGBT community and inflate them and treat them with kid gloves compared to the straights. Court daring to stand up for her religious beliefs which are perfectly within her rights and daring to be against the gays is hated and purposely underrated just for that.
I love Serena, but had Monica had the chance to develop her game (serve, net game) with her superior mental game, this wouldn't have been close. Monica made such few errors at her peak. You could see how fear crept into her game post-stabbing, which, of course, is understandable. Monica will always be my favorite.
You are delusional if you think Monica would have ever been destroying Serena, even a before her prime Serena. Seles loonies are easy to smell from miles away.
Douglas Varley - Monica defeated her in WTA Los Angeles in QF same year and after that Hingis in SF and lost only the final to Davenport. If she would have been in better condition she would have won much more. It was not fear but overweight and distraction.
Serena won so many GS with more weight than Seles has ever had and many injuries in her career. Let us not talk about age which is a natural distraction.
My two all time favorite players :) I was so looking forward to their Us Open Semis, but Monica had a bad day at the office and fell to Bedanova in the fourth round :/
That loss is still one that makes me scratch my head to this day. Monica came into the US Open that year playing some of the best stuff we had seen from her in quite some time. She beat Hingis twice and Capriati and then beat Serena in La before losing in this match, and clearly she was playing really well. Then she crashes out to a player few had even heard of... hard to understand.
These two women play incredibly well, with such strength and determination, so many aces by Serena, Monica keeps up with all her guts never losing concentration, relentless until the end. This is the best female match ever.
Seles was adored by all. Serena was never adored... but she did become more popular (in the US) as there were fewer Americans to cheer on. Then, like all oldies, she became a sentimental favorite.
There are a lot of what ifs when it comes to MONICA SELES! But the facts are...she's a legend already when she first played PRO. Shot up to the TOP immediately. Amazing! She could have been the BEST! :)
at 10:10 - Serena's face is like "holy shit this is like the old Monica I am in trouble"..in this period seles had greatly improved her game since the years of 96-2000 and got fitter and the results showed..she was never going to dominate again like she did pre hamburg with the new power era coming up but she was one of very top payers in this tiemframe and could again beat anyone...she still moved faster pre hamburg but hit harder here in 2001...what a match ..monica had just beat sernea weeks prior in LA i and serena had match points and I recall her saying if she gets another match point she would win it right away but in this match in toronto monica saved so many Match points but came up a little short in the end..one of my top 5 matches of all time..a treat to watch
On top of all that this was Monica's 4th tournament in as many weeks, with 2 finals and two semis, and the previous day she splayed two hard fought matches (Dokic, Henin). For the much fitter Serena this was only the 2nd summer hard court tournament, and she only played 1 match the in the previous day. Monica however got only tired in the tie break where she was a break up, but then she hit two doubles.
what a match ! before serena, monica was my favorite player just too bad that guy stabbed her. she got robbed but it is not serena fault . serena was at the begining of her carreer
I like this Serena more. She's more dynamic. SHe's become so ruthlessly efficient in last few years (and good for her!) that she's not as much fun to watch...
Her agility was bananas back then and I think her court positioning was a bit better, as well. She was more willing back then to run a ball down which had us all on the edge of the seat when she played. Lol.
Yeah & top tennis players have to be efficient especially if they want to win big matches, titles & Grand Slams. I'd love to see Serena play more high risk tennis but she'd probably lose more matches than win. After Serena won her 1st Slam at the 1999 US Open, she continued playing her high risk game but she didn't win her 2nd Slam until the 2002 French Open. She played in her 2nd Slam final at the 2001 US Open vs her sister & said she was disappointed that she hadn't won more Grand Slams after her 1st win. She was disappointed & she also said she expected much more from herself. And she's right. She made the adjustments. She made the corrections in her game & she just stopped making unnecessary errors. Serena was the 1st Williams sister to win a Grand Slam but by the time Serena played vs Venus at the 2001 US Open, (& Serena's 2nd Slam final) Venus had already won 3 Grand Slam Finals & was playing in her 5th.
+Inediblehulk I agree , she was fun to watch using that athletic ability and just hitting all out. But this way lost alot of matches for her also. She started winning more when she started putting more spin on that ball and playing the percentages. If she didnt change, she would probably have fewer slams imo.
Outstanding, brilliant,exceptional Monika Seles,the only favored by your back knife was Graf.Tennis is the big loser.Oh yes.Monika will be the best ever.Monika Seles in any case.Miss u so so much!
Wow they are both hitting the s*it out of the ball consistently, Serena's speed is always the difference. I was big Monica fan back in the day, such a gracious and humble champion.
kinda forgot hw quick n althletic serena was, wat a great mtch, seles was sucha gd player, she chanaged womesn tns, hw great she coudl hve been if things were diferent 4 her
Serena does not let racists who root against her in every match she plays due to the color of her skin affect her. Her excellent papa taught her she would deal with it and to stay strong from an early age. The tennis establishment continously tried to put Serena and Venus down and keep them down, keep them passive and non winning like they like the blacks but they stayed strong an would not be differed from being champions.
Serena's serve was just plain superior. And of course Serena moved much better as well, not quite to the standard of Graf but close enough. Mobility was always Seles's weakness; her two-handed shots required just a tad longer time to set up. On clay, Seles would be much better able to handle Serena's powerful forehand, much like she was able to handle Graf's.
What on Earth makes you think Seles would have won more Slams than Steffi? Steffi was always the superior athlete and Monica was unathletic and a bit one-dimensional. Not to mention the fact that she was a lost cause on grass, a surface that historically favored players with the best skills and athleticism.
You have to remeber that Serena in her Prime couldnt beat Justine Henin , who was slight like seles but whacked the ball like an exorcet. Even Serena could not have coped with a prime Seles. Graf couldnt unless it was on Grass
This was a period when Seles played well and was pretty fit. Unfortunately that only happened in spring 98 and autumn 01. Great Monica Seles, even after the stabbing she had some great results, major finals, victory in Melbourne, over 20 tournament wins, beating all top players. That only goes to show how good she would have really been without that horrible attack. It ruined her BIG career. Even so - she is one of the ten greatest in women's Tennis' history.
There's an old TH-cam clup of Serena as a little girl being asked who is her idol and she says Monica Seles. Now imagine what a dream come true this has to be for her. Amazing.
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter?
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@Philip Stacey you obviously don’t know the difference between a frying pan and a tennis racquet...so go drink water from the toilet like you’re used to doing.
@Ilya Kuryakin jealous again you freak because Serena's idol is Monica, not that sore loser queen graf? 🤣🤣🤣 no tennis player on the planet would idolize grafs outdated stylenand soreness of character.
@Ilya Kuryakin links? 🤣🤣🤣 you are full of jealousy and hate just like your idol sore loser queen graf.
@Ilya Kuryakin 🤣🤣🤣 steffi is anything but beauty! Thank you for making me laugh again, you are such a clown! 🤣🤣🤣
Stunning match. Worthy of a grandslam final!
What an incredible match between two legends! I would have loved to witness these two go at it at their prime levels. Serena in 2012/2015 vs. Seles 1991-1993
Seles would wreck her in my opinion she had an Insane work rate
I feel Serena prime was in 2002, in 2012 there werent really great players like in 2002
@@98TheJackInTheBox um no. Serena has a better serve and better athlete. And more power..in fact seles has a horrible record against BOTH sisters
Even tho she lost; Monica Seles was BADASS!!!! One of the greatest to ever do it...love the energy from this match!
I remember Monica love her
Resoect her. I can not forget that criminal guy & injustice law who let him live free & imprisones. That is the worst tragedy in tennis history & so weird
Monica looking out of shape and still being amazingly competitive with the best of the best. One could only imagine...
Monica today. Is smoking hot. It’s odd of all the tennis women she is tbd prettiest today. Check her out
She was totally out of shape, years later she would recognize that her stabbing cause her severe anxiety AND therefore she had an eating desorder, It was just until her retierement that she was able to heal AND work on her mental health, since then she looks so slim.
@@godbyone she looks so skinny.
Its funny that the speed and the angles in 2002 are higher then in 2022. For me Seles is the best tennisplayer ever. She really changed the game.
As a (massive) Graf fan it still saddens me to see Seles not really be given her due by the wider sporting and even tennis public. I feel she's too often forgotten. Along with Graf, Serena and Evert she was THE toughest mentally to ever step on the court and out of those four possibly the most fearless. She's too lionised by her own fanatics (who talk about 30+ slams as if it was a given without the stabbing) and forgotten by the rest. Her legacy isn't fully appreciated and I'd like to see that rectified. We can never know what 'may have been' but despite what we, and she, lost there is an ENORMOUS amount that should be remembered and celebrated.
+Inediblehulk but one thing for sure that everybody can agree on, graf would not have 22 slams if it wasn't for the stabbing. graf probably would end up somewhere between 15 to 18 grand slams.
Absolutely! I hate that she is severely overlooked when she was pretty much THE tennis player to beat between say, '91 and early '93. I hate to try to guess "what could have been" but that's all one can think of in regards to that particular part of her career. While she was still pretty much a top-ten player for the rest of her career, I'd like to see her mentioned more in the annals of history for her sheer awesomeness before her injury. I think what sucks even more is that a certain rival of hers was so against her having a protected ranking when she returned to the sport. Venting aside, she easily one of my top three favorite players to watch of all time.
Unfortunately, she's forgotten for the same reason Graf is remembered & celebrated, because of Seles' stabbing. Yes, we'll never really know what Monica would've or could've accomplished but we know about the 22 Grand Slams Graf won largely because of Seles' absence from the game due to her being stabbed. Seles beat Graf at the 1993 Aussie Open then she got stabbed & Graf won the 1993 French Open, Wimbledon & US Open, the 1994 Aussie Open, 1995 French Open & Wimbledon and Monica returned to the tour to compete vs Graf at the 1995 US Open Finals but lost. At least 6 Grand Slams were won by Graf that Seles could have won if she were not stabbed. Steffi Graf would still have been a legend just like Monica Seles but she would not have 22 Grand Slams in her trophy case. Had Monica Seles never been stabbed both she & Steffi Graf probably would have won 15 or 16 Grand Slams.
+stevie69ful I prefer to think they would've gone closer to 18/19 each. Perhaps done a Fed and Nadal and just won EVERYTHING between them for a few years. Had they both stayed fit I do think there's every reason to assume ASV, Pierce, Hingis,Novotna and Majoli wouldn't have won any of the slams they got bewteen '94 and '98. This is obviously an 'alternate timeline' kind of deal and maybe Graf wouldn't have been injured in 97 and 98 so while she may not have won the 10 slams she got in 94-96 she may have perhaps won more in that 97,98,99 period. Seles would've kept going strong too. Who knows. All I know is we missed some GREAT matches. THeir 92 FO and 93 AO (argh both to Seles in an arm-wrestle!) were taking women's tennis to new levels.
+Inediblehulk no1 should ever forget the tragedy that happened to Seles. She was dominating the slams and got stopped by a term you use for the seles fans, a fanatic. just think about it- Novak is winning the slams now and then someone stabs him so federer or nadal can win more slams. ITS JUST NOT RIGHT
Now who is to say seles would have won more slams but I could bet my house that she would have won more in 1993 at least.
I have to agree that it was one of the best women’s matches I have seen. I forgot how good Monica was!!
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter?
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@Illya Kuryakin What's problem on YOU ?
Ilya Kuryakin I’ll pass on the greatest benefactor of Seles’s stabbing. Steffi probably arranged it. To bad Steffi couldn’t reach that “level” when she lost to Seles at the 92 French.
What a sensational match! I really miss tennis like this. Absolute hell for leather full throttle lights out tennis: just look at the reaction of the crowd - they were buzzing. You can even here Jo Jurie, the female voice, saying that it was one of the best matches she had seen in her life. This kind of tennis is inspirational. It's true, as one person noted, that Seles really was the mother of the power-hitting off both wings, Serena and Venus, in my opinion, her natural successors who took her inspiration to greater heights. The influence Seles had on the game was transformational: even on the men's game too, because of her power, passion, focus and fearlessness. Those are qualities that anyone can look up to in life, and it's what Seles will always be remembered for.
Well said! Totally agree.
One of the best matches in womans tennis history
rishlife one of the best matches period, men or women.
One of the best moaning matches.
IMHO it is fucking annoying.
Qualitativ of the match is not equal to the Power of the shots
@@janstrotmann7686 Then don't watch?
@@mrrogers302 without watching it is impossible to make your judgement.
Im Tennis fan and watch Stuff..maybe you can only say positive Things and watch things were you only see greatness...then lucky you
@@janstrotmann7686 No I just think it doesn’t make sense to spend time on videos you don’t like.
Serena was so much quicker back then compared to now. She could really cover ground, able to win some magnificent rallies here as a result. I miss this young version of Serena. Joy to watch.
Now she makes up for it with her experience and power and when she is on her game, she has no rivals.
These were the days that Serena was "too powerful". She could hit you off the court or miss shots by a mile. 2001, (I think) is the year that she learned to reign in her power.
well she’s has knee surgeries... a broken foot... bilateral embolisms... 36 and now a mother so... things change. meanwhile she still wins.
The older Serena is a much better player than younger Serena. It's not close
I agree...buy I miss more the younger (not yet stabbed) MONICA SELES. A legend on her own! ;)
I love Monica seles she should have been the greatest of all time 😃😃😃
Nobody will be the GOAT. After a while someone new comes up to beat the old records. Anyway you can't compare the times. I guess it's more justice to leave everybody their time. So there's a Court time, Evert time, Steffi time, Seles also had her time, Hingis, Serena, and who knows what will come up with Naomi etc.
Alyssasrealm Why do you continue to open your mouth with idiotic remarks?? Serena is and will always be the G.O.A.T. None of the newer ladies can consistently play a tournament...and when was the last time any one besides Serena played a GS and won it consecutively? Serena has an all around game...perfect serve, awesome return of serve, lethal groundstrokes, amazing overheads, superb drop shots....and on top of all that she's a mental powerhouse....she's the best come back player ever....none of the newer ladies can compare..not one....and I highly doubt any one of these ladies will reach double digits for GS wins...this is why Serena will reign forever...
She sure is!
Jo Buck87 yeah with the unfortunate born physical conditions she has and all the ‘medicine’ she has to and was granted to take, she’s definitely the best!
huahua290 You are clearly delusional and apparently ignorant. Please silence your moronic remarks until you learn better...which I suspect will be February 31st...pathetic troll...
Seles is the greatest of all time. At 17, she already had 4 grand slams under her belt. At 19, she had total of 8 grand slams. She was such a dominant force. There’s no question in my mind that she would’ve smashed the record 24 grand slams. How magnificent is she even in this loss against Serena.
I don’t have to wonder, I know she would’ve smashed that record at a record breaking age.
no she is not....serena and Graf are. GOAT status has always and forever be determined by slams. Not who wins the most the fastest LOL
these are the two best players ever !!!
I'm the third one! 🤣
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter?
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@@spongebobby188 yeah, how many times did you played tennis in your life? Once? Do you know the difference between a racquet and an iron? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@bear-ms3ms maybe more times than u have tried to write witty TH-cam comments! 🤭
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Serena just owned every player since way back - she a fearless badass. Nobody has ever played like her thats why she's the GOAT
Monica is the GOAT...Serena idolized Monica when she was very young.
@@joeyconvery2055 Hmmm 23 slams vs 9 and no Wimbledons. Tough choice, LOL! 15 year old Serena in 1997 even won two 6-1 sets vs Seles in their first ever match. And many players are better than their childhood idol. Graf's childhood idol was Goolagong.
@@dougvader6886 Monica is the GOAT.
I am a tennis expert...stop living in denial.
Monica has 30 Grand Slam titles.
@@joeyconvery2055 30 grand slams on playstation? In the real world she has 9. :)
@@dougvader6886 30 Grand Slams is accurate for Monica.
Look it up.
The first set alone made my pulse and heart beat fast. What a great match. Miss Monica on the tour. I'd love to see what she'd do against today's players.
alexdep monica would cut through the tour like a hot knife through butter
It’s tough to beat the juicers. And some men
most female players today hit like seles did back ven, she raised v bar 4 women players n most copied her.
This was back when you had to PLAY tennis to win - not using Meldonium. Serena and Seles are LEGENDS!!!
Gabriela Sabatini was the only top level player who supported Seles co ranking- other lesser players who benefitted from her tragedy- looking at u arantxa- didnt support it. telling and sad- Seles is such a champion
Please, go farting out of monicas videos, thanks
Yes. I remember that. Gabriella sabatini is very kind. She respects monica seles
Monica's progression was brutally stopped with the attack in Germany. Remember that she was still a child when that happened. She never was the same. But apart from that she is the best young player in history.
She wasn’t even at her peak
Seles put up a hell of a fight-especially as her career was winding down by then. She played her last professional match about 24 months after this. She really showed what she was made of. She had to have been at least 8 years older than Serena. Watching Serena play-power, awesome lethal serve, speed, athleticism, net game- wow. I cannot think of anyone who could have beat her playing at her best. A lot of those one two side to side angled shots from Seles would have finished a point with so many players but Serena was so young and so fast. Both great ladies of tennis. Thanks for putting this out there.
I don’t know, but I’d say these two are THE GREATEST women’s tennis players EVER. Steffi Graf, Martina Navratilova, Helen Wills, Simuzanne Lenglen are close.
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter?
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Monica seles in her short time. Was greatest
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@@ilanplazola1715 if you were watching it happen at the time she was a machine and she didn’t get to her peak time
only one word...wildest cat fight ever......
❤️ Serena still a bad ass ❤️ I love her !
Monica was the TRUTH...I think Serena plays like her.
I think Monica was to first to really get up to ANY short ball and take it on the rise. Of course there were many power players, but the way Monica played is standard nowadays. A legend!
Serena has always mentioned that Monica Seles was her idol
Illya Kuryakin google serena Williams on Monica Seles or check the vogue interview from last year 🙄
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When you look back at all the opponents Serena has had to face in her career, you kind of understand why she knows she can beat anyone when she plays her best lol
Yeah buddy! And the kinds of complete playes.
Davenport
Capriati
Venus Williams
Seles
Hingis
Pierce
Henin
Clijsters
These were not one dimensional players. Each of these have won multiple slams and have complete all-court games. I think Serena beats the competition so easily because she doesn't "really" have to think that much about it.
Sharapova doesn't have a plan B. Nor does Kvitova or the others.
Radwanska and Wozniacki I think have the most complete game out of the new players but they just dont have the firepower.
MrJupiterjazz id add Garbine to the list of knew players who have a more complete game but she is mentally weak.
Mr. Jupiterjazz you can also include Graf as Serena defeated Steffi in their last head to head match. If I was not mistaken, Graf defeated her in Sydney of 1999, but Serena defeated her later on in indian wells 1999.
Monica at her best could beat anyone.
@@robertzsombok7661 you could say the same thing about Serena, Venus, Graf, Henin, Navratilova, many players.
Everybody would be delighted to watch the FULL MATCH of this magnificent battle
Wow this was a good ass match
wow! this is like an all out brawl. reminds me of the Hagler v Hearns fight. Good stuff.
Seles was so tough in this match Serena had to fight ...Seles played every point like match point
one of the best matches ever!
At least the loudest.
oh my goood i remember this match and the glorius time of women tennis, it all passed ... really missing and seles no matter who thinks but you are best of all time for me, you made me love tennis
These girls are not playing around.
11:38 ~ got to be the best volley of Seles' career.
+beauryandrew she hit a few great volley just like that one in Matches late 1992.
seles' game was never the same after the incident. before that, she stayed right at the baseline all the time and hardly hit one-handed shots. her overall movements and aggressiveness were not at the same level.
These are probably the 2 fiercest women to pick up a tennis racket Both much better than Steffi Graf
Ilya Kuryakin Of course, someone has a different opinion than yours and you have to chime in. If you haven’t checked lately, Serena now has MORE GS titles than Graf. Our only consolation is Graf reign as the Open Era leader was short, replaced by Serena.
Seeing Seles' BH go toe-to-toe with a big hitter's FH is always amazing to watch.
Great match from Serena and Seles!
Legendary ladies. We couldn't ask for more. This was a pure beauty in the women tennis. Perfecto.
I wish I could go back in this era in my life.
People talk shit about the golden age of women tennis. They are still the same Serena and Venus playing today. Not like new sets of guys came in. Tennis stays tennis but it is just faster now. The world has also gone faster just lile every other sport (football and race). Serena is older than Seles and Steffi here and she is still beating wannabees. She and Venus pushed so many greats to retirement and still doing so today. Serena is the greatest of all time
I have this match on VHS somewhere! I remember watching it in 2001 and it was probably one of the best matches of that season. It was amazing, high-quality tennis. This was the summer that Seles was playing great tennis and even beat Serena a few weeks before in LA. In the next round, Serena beat Capriati in the final, who had beaten Serena 4 straight times before, and after that Serena had Capriati's number for awhile, too.
Jason Ly well if u have the matches post them - dont be so greedy...😂😂😂
That’s just a shadow of the prime Seles.
That was fantastic. Thanks for posting it!
Remember this match watchin live on tv, what a lovely times in tennins. Love you and missing you Monica
what a match this was....brought back incredible memories watching this!
People forget how great prime Seles was. She won 8 majors in 4 year. Serena's best was 6 majors in 8 years.
What a match...they don't make these type of matches anymore...craziest cat fight ever...
Im sad we never got to see seles at her potential best.
This is my favourite tennis match I ever watched. They played real tennis.
I don't think Seles is forgotten. Everybody knows her, people know how good she was, the whole world knows that both, Seles' and Graf's career would have gone a different route without the stabbing. The one who's really forgotten is Margaret Court. Even now, with Williams getting closer to the ultimate number of GS wins, they talk about Graf and Williams, never about Court - who's got the record. By the way, I don't think Seles would have surpassed Court's record, I think she would have retired before. However she would have more than Graf.
Finally, someone I can agree with, one this topic. Steffi Graf was a good player in her own right, however if Monica Seles didn't get stabbed in the Hamburg tournament back in 1993. She could have won multiple majors. Even up to 20, the girl was to bad in the early 90's.
Court is underrated for the same reason Navratilova is so ovverrated. Navratilova being a lesbian is overrated and overpraised simply for being a lesbian. These days people are obsessively in love with the LGBT community and inflate them and treat them with kid gloves compared to the straights. Court daring to stand up for her religious beliefs which are perfectly within her rights and daring to be against the gays is hated and purposely underrated just for that.
You have to take into consideration that Court did not win all her GS in the Opens. Other than that she is up there with all the greats.
I love Serena, but had Monica had the chance to develop her game (serve, net game) with her superior mental game, this wouldn't have been close. Monica made such few errors at her peak. You could see how fear crept into her game post-stabbing, which, of course, is understandable. Monica will always be my favorite.
You are delusional if you think Monica would have ever been destroying Serena, even a before her prime Serena. Seles loonies are easy to smell from miles away.
Douglas Varley - Monica defeated her in WTA Los Angeles in QF same year and after that Hingis in SF and lost only the final to Davenport. If she would have been in better condition she would have won much more. It was not fear but overweight and distraction.
Serena won so many GS with more weight than Seles has ever had and many injuries in her career. Let us not talk about age which is a natural distraction.
Williams is doped.
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter? Please go farting out of there, thanks
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Gabriella Sabatini my legend from Argentina is beautiful 😘
A great battle between two of my favorite players
My two all time favorite players :) I was so looking forward to their Us Open Semis, but Monica had a bad day at the office and fell to Bedanova in the fourth round :/
That loss is still one that makes me scratch my head to this day. Monica came into the US Open that year playing some of the best stuff we had seen from her in quite some time. She beat Hingis twice and Capriati and then beat Serena in La before losing in this match, and clearly she was playing really well. Then she crashes out to a player few had even heard of... hard to understand.
These two women play incredibly well, with such strength and determination, so many aces by Serena, Monica keeps up with all her guts never losing concentration, relentless until the end. This is the best female match ever.
Seles was such a joy to watch no one has her intesity I will always love her.
Seles was adored by all. Serena was never adored... but she did become more popular (in the US) as there were fewer Americans to cheer on. Then, like all oldies, she became a sentimental favorite.
There are a lot of what ifs when it comes to MONICA SELES! But the facts are...she's a legend already when she first played PRO. Shot up to the TOP immediately. Amazing! She could have been the BEST! :)
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter?
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One of the best hardhitting matches. Legends
it's like a preview of Osaka vs Serena: a generation apart, best vs best
These were hot shots, not the shity point of today players (except from Petra, Serena, Venus, Maria, Vika and Muguruza)
Adam Levine Petra and Muguruza, really?
Very hard shots. The modern tennis ihas already waked up!
Gees both of them were on fire here, amazing.
The hitting here is BRUTAL
Awesome fighting ... impressive.
Monica Seles you are in our hard all your live winner. You are the Best player and women
tremendo partidazo, aguante seles
Fantastic match
Both players giving there all
That's all you can hope for
So incredible!!
Ridiculous athleticism from Serena.
Franchement, tu n'as pas honte?!
this is an excellent game
wow u can see how the crowd was desperate for Seles
Crowds will always cheer for a player with white skin over Serena.
You are right.
Drama queen.
@@douglasvarley3633 Could it have anything to do with Monica being both the sentimental favorite and the underdog? Oh and a legend lol
Monica Matos legend and underdog don’t go together!
at 10:10 - Serena's face is like "holy shit this is like the old Monica I am in trouble"..in this period seles had greatly improved her game since the years of 96-2000 and got fitter and the results showed..she was never going to dominate again like she did pre hamburg with the new power era coming up but she was one of very top payers in this tiemframe and could again beat anyone...she still moved faster pre hamburg but hit harder here in 2001...what a match ..monica had just beat sernea weeks prior in LA i and serena had match points and I recall her saying if she gets another match point she would win it right away but in this match in toronto monica saved so many Match points but came up a little short in the end..one of my top 5 matches of all time..a treat to watch
On top of all that this was Monica's 4th tournament in as many weeks, with 2 finals and two semis, and the previous day she splayed two hard fought matches (Dokic, Henin). For the much fitter Serena this was only the 2nd summer hard court tournament, and she only played 1 match the in the previous day. Monica however got only tired in the tie break where she was a break up, but then she hit two doubles.
monica seles so awesome at toronto sf 2001 highlights !!!!
Monica greatness!Monica unique! Monica the most special number 1 in the world!Moninica magic. Just too good!
what a match ! before serena, monica was my favorite player just too bad that guy stabbed her. she got robbed but it is not serena fault . serena was at the begining of her carreer
is that Varda? cannot everyone see that the light the lives in Serena's face is hers and hers alone?
Conrad Ramirez what u mean though?
Insane level of tennis!
Seles has grown older but she makes less unforced errors than Serena. And in the videos I have seen of her she hardly makes an unforced error.
Phenomenal match. Monica Seles is AMAAAAAAZING. And all credit to Serena Williams for pulling through.
Serena on fire in that first game....love monica seles, bless her
I like this Serena more. She's more dynamic. SHe's become so ruthlessly efficient in last few years (and good for her!) that she's not as much fun to watch...
Her agility was bananas back then and I think her court positioning was a bit better, as well. She was more willing back then to run a ball down which had us all on the edge of the seat when she played. Lol.
Yeah it was just a bit more athletic and dynamic. But that's also the differnce between a 20 year old and a 35 year old.
Agreed!
Yeah & top tennis players have to be efficient especially if they want to win big matches, titles & Grand Slams. I'd love to see Serena play more high risk tennis but she'd probably lose more matches than win. After Serena won her 1st Slam at the 1999 US Open, she continued playing her high risk game but she didn't win her 2nd Slam until the 2002 French Open. She played in her 2nd Slam final at the 2001 US Open vs her sister & said she was disappointed that she hadn't won more Grand Slams after her 1st win. She was disappointed & she also said she expected much more from herself. And she's right. She made the adjustments. She made the corrections in her game & she just stopped making unnecessary errors. Serena was the 1st Williams sister to win a Grand Slam but by the time Serena played vs Venus at the 2001 US Open, (& Serena's 2nd Slam final) Venus had already won 3 Grand Slam Finals & was playing in her 5th.
+Inediblehulk I agree , she was fun to watch using that athletic ability and just hitting all out. But this way lost alot of matches for her also. She started winning more when she started putting more spin on that ball and playing the percentages. If she didnt change, she would probably have fewer slams imo.
Outstanding, brilliant,exceptional Monika Seles,the only favored by your back knife was Graf.Tennis is the big loser.Oh yes.Monika will be the best ever.Monika Seles in any case.Miss u so so much!
Incredible. Every point was so aggressive. If only it had gone to a third. Women’s tennis taken to the next level
Beautiful. SERENA is awesome. Great match
Love Monica my favourite
Wow they are both hitting the s*it out of the ball consistently, Serena's speed is always the difference. I was big Monica fan back in the day, such a gracious and humble champion.
finals please
Monica Seles was the best tennis player ever in her Era and in world
kinda forgot hw quick n althletic serena was, wat a great mtch, seles was sucha gd player, she chanaged womesn tns, hw great she coudl hve been if things were diferent 4 her
The crowd was behind Seles, and after the match SW did as if they were supporting her. Funny.
+Tim Poster Serena always do that to the fans thats against/not supporting her. She is showing them who is the better player. Lol funny you.
Serena does not let racists who root against her in every match she plays due to the color of her skin affect her. Her excellent papa taught her she would deal with it and to stay strong from an early age. The tennis establishment continously tried to put Serena and Venus down and keep them down, keep them passive and non winning like they like the blacks but they stayed strong an would not be differed from being champions.
She used the racists as motivation to her advantage. She was playing the crowd and Seles
THE BEATIFOUL AND THE BEST
Serena's serve was just plain superior. And of course Serena moved much better as well, not quite to the standard of Graf but close enough. Mobility was always Seles's weakness; her two-handed shots required just a tad longer time to set up. On clay, Seles would be much better able to handle Serena's powerful forehand, much like she was able to handle Graf's.
Per quanto mi riguarda ...le due più grandi giocatrici...
Seles was amazing 👍👍👍
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If only ...
Serena would chase the Grand Slam record of Monica but a Graf fan is against the idea! A high quality match performed by the GOAT and the second GOAT!
@Illya Kuryakin woulda coulda shoulda ah, huge dodger?
What on Earth makes you think Seles would have won more Slams than Steffi?
Steffi was always the superior athlete and Monica was unathletic and a bit one-dimensional. Not to mention the fact that she was a lost cause on grass, a surface that historically favored players with the best skills and athleticism.
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You have to remeber that Serena in her Prime couldnt beat Justine Henin , who was slight like seles but whacked the ball like an exorcet. Even Serena could not have coped with a prime Seles. Graf couldnt unless it was on Grass
Strange to see Williams waving to the crowds. Cause they had been supporting Seles.
This was a period when Seles played well and was pretty fit. Unfortunately that only happened in spring 98 and autumn 01. Great Monica Seles, even after the stabbing she had some great results, major finals, victory in Melbourne, over 20 tournament wins, beating all top players. That only goes to show how good she would have really been without that horrible attack. It ruined her BIG career. Even so - she is one of the ten greatest in women's Tennis' history.
@Illya Kuryakin Here again in Monica’s videos, huge farter? Please go farting out of there, thanks
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@@bear-ms3ms you must be a fan of the crazy man who stabbed Monica seles.