Started following Monica's matches when she came back from that horrible incident. Loved her game style, demeaner and personality. She is and will always be my idol ❤❤❤
@carrerau7138 Seles played GS draws of 128 women, which included the likes of Graf, ASV, Sabatini, MJ Fernandez, Navratilova, Martinez, Novotna and Capriati. Maureen literally played against the same 6-8 women at GS and tournaments.
Thank you for this beautiful tribute to the outstanding achievements of the most remarkable tennis player of all time, Monica Seles. Her style was completely unorthodox as was her grunt (though mild in comparison to today’s standards). But her tenacity, her mental strength, her fearlessness-in these areas she was in a category all her own. With more grand slams to her name while still just a teenager than anyone else, male or female, EVER, there is no doubt she was on a trajectory to be the greatest player of all time. Of course it’s difficult to tell her full story adequately because the record books aren’t equipped to deal with the criminal act of violence committed against her, and all the ramifications that would follow. But when all is said and done we must acknowledge that she still had a spectacular career and is universally beloved. How lucky we were to have witnessed all her talent on display!
The most remarkable thing about Seles was her mental weakness. I have never heard of a person who didn‘t go to work after having suffered a minor stab wound that was closed with just one stitch. Do you?
Austin, Hingis, Venus, Henin, Osaka all were on a trajectory to be the greatest player of all time. Then sadly all were stabbed and the history of women’s tennis changed forever. You sad 🤡.
@@carrerau7138 Your comment essentially makes my point for me. The players you mentioned were all great champions, no question about that. I could go on and on about their tennis (especially Henin and her beautiful backhand). But in terms of grand slam legacy, in their ENTIRE careers they don’t amass the amazing number of grand slams Seles garnered JUST BY THE AGE OF 19. None of these players was anywhere near on par with the trajectory Seles had set out for herself while still only a teen. And as you unintentionally point out, none of these great champions were stabbed by a knife-wielding criminal, and during a very prolific part of their careers. This is exactly what happened to Seles-at the rate she was winning, there can be no question she was robbed of many grand slams, even the great Martina Navratilova has said as much. As for the stabbing itself, the basic human instinct is to care about a person who has been physically attacked. This is the basic response, involving sympathy and empathy and all the other characteristics that make us human. It may even be more basic and primal than human, as even mammals have been known to have this kind of reaction. I’m not sure what satisfaction you derive from joking about the attack Seles suffered, that’s a personal issue for you to sort out and it’s not for me to comment, so I would only offer this very general statement: No one anywhere deserves to be stabbed, let alone stabbed on international television, especially not a 19 year old child in the middle of playing a game. Her stabbing marked a failure of the security protocols, and neither the sport of tennis nor the German legal system handled it well. The result was bad for Seles and bad for the fans who had been enjoying the incredible Seles-Graf rivalry unfold. On some level it must have even been bad for Graf, who surely must have struggled to keep her focus (since the criminal claimed to have committed the despicable act for Graf’s benefit). The silver lining is that even despite the criminal act, Seles did overcome the attack and ultimately Seles still did have a great career, and we got to witness her talent on display for as long as we did. Though she never dominated in the same way as she had before the stabbing, she was universally beloved for her amazing tennis and also for the courage and personal strength she showed throughout.
@@netfun8087 There is no trajectory in sports. Hingis had 3 slams at age 16, 5 at age 18. No slams after that. Steffi had 21 slams at age 27. Only one slam after that. Connolly had 9 slams at age 19. No slam after that. Wilander had 7 slams at age 23. No slam after that. It doesn‘t need a stabbing and an (alleged) PTSD to cut off an alleged trajectory. And Seles‘s 8 slams came under unique circumstances: The dominant player had taken a nosedive due to events outside of tennis. And Seles had no other serious competition (Evert gone, Navi too old, ASV not yet peaking, Hingis still a toddler). So she took up the pieces. In no other period from 1969 to 2008 Seles would have won her 8 slam titles.
Monica was a joy as a teenager, bubbly, happy, excited by how far her talents could take her. Today, she is a gracious, poised lady who does a lot of charitable work, among other things. She has a sweet nature, imo, and would undoubtedly have surpassed Graf's GS record, given her youth, if it hadn't been for that crazed Graf fan. Incidentally, he got off with a suspended sentence, which may possibly have been a factor in Monica's lengthy recovery, the sense of injustice she may have felt.
Exactly it was. It was one of her biggest achievements after all those nightmares she went through. Pity that she didn't win her 10th Grand Slam at the French Open 98. She was close
This tally should have been so much higher. Not only were we robbed of Monica's full potential but we were also robbed of a rivalry between Monica and Steffi that could have equalled Chris and Martina.
yeah a lot of these insane fans downplay the stabbing as if Graf would have just rolled right through Monica. Do people even realize that , not only did she win 7 of the 9 slams from 1991-93 but she defended each of the grand slams that she won in that time period.
@@alexpiper1115Look at the history of women‘s tennis in the last 80 years. There were several players who won 7-9 slams within 3 years. What did they win in the NEXT 3 years? Well, about 2.5 slams on average. Only maroons maintain that winning 8 slams in 3 years means that this rate would be upheld. But what the heck - Seles fans generally ARE maroons!
@@carrerau7138 Well two examples of people you cited winning 7-9 Slams in a three year period are Monica Seles and Maureen Connolly. Maureen Connolly's career was cut short with a horse riding accident and while Monica returned to the tour, she was never the same player. Both players would have won so much more had those tragedies not happened. Read her two autobiographies to get some insight into the impact of the stabbing.
@@pablofrank2466 No, I didn‘t count Seles of course. And Connolly shows what can happen. Can we be sure that Seles would not have had a career-ending bicycle accident? Can we be sure that Seles wouldn’t have found the love of her life and founded a family instead of hitting a yellow ball? Can we sure that Seles would not have developed the shoulder injury that hampered her from 1997 on a few years earlier? The point of the stats I mentioned is that winning 7-9 slams in 3 years doesn‘t mean a lot for the next 3 years.
@@pablofrank2466 For me it was an eye-opener that Seles didn‘t provide the court of the Parche trial with her medical records. The judges wanted to know about the impact the stabbing had had on her, the psychological one. A severe trauma would have influenced the sentencing of Parche considerably. Seles didn‘t send the medical records to the judges….
Monica Seles had won EIGHT Grand Slam singles titles shortly after turning 19. Seles had won SEVEN Grand Slam titles at age 18. Martina Hingis had won 5 Grand Slam titles at age 18. Steffi Graf had won 3 at age 18. Boris Becker and Bjorn Borg had both won 2 GS titles at age 18.
Should have been many more majors for her, but fortunately Seles was such a phenomenal force as a teen she still won a solid amount before a psycho got to her.
What hurts even more was the response from the WTA players and the German court rulings... How she have survived it shows how tough she truly is... but
Should have been far less. Most of her slams in the early 90s were blackmail slams - won only because the great Steffi was hampered by a nasty blackmail scandal.
@@carrerau7138 Nope- Monica had eight slams as a teen, with three more to play before she hit 20, when a psycho stabbed her in the back and stopped her momentum. If Seles was really a subpar player who posed no real threat to Graf, no nefarious criminal action would've been necessary to stop Monica from playing. You can put any kind of asinine spin on it you want, but history shows and the public knows exactly what happened to Monica.
@@slc2466 Subpar player? No real threat to Steffi? Who said that? Anyway, when a lunatic sees something as “necessary“ it doesn’t mean that it really IS necessary. Parche had the intellectual level of an average Selestial nutter.
@@jamesr2164 I am actually quite happy. Watching all the videos with Steffi winning 22 slams and the Golden Slam. And making fun of Selestial losers in between.
Short haired Monica is god tier😂. Seles should always be in the top ten of greatest women’s tennis players. She had 8 grand slams as a teen with a strong rival in Steffi and no slouches in vicario, Sabitini, Navratilova, navotna etc. These ladies were always showing up in the quarters semis and finals and seles handle her business. The stab took away here fearlessness and I would say the loss of her dad kinda sealed her career path. She still managed to beat everyone but top 4 or 5 players when came back but the edge and definitely the fitness was gone. Still she’s a gracious champion and I’ll always be a fan.
When Seles won her slams in the early 90s 1) Evert was gone 2) Navratilova was in her mid-30 3) Steffi in the worst slump of her career 4) Sanchez not yet peaking 5) Hingis still a toddler. Kudos to Seles for using that window of opportunity to the max!
@@carrerau7138 all those things you stated can be used define any number of players who rose to the top. Seles still accomplished what she accomplished and was seen as such a threat that someone tried to take her out to benefit a player who was, as you said, slumping.
@@carrerau7138 - Chris Evert had won the Houston Virginia Slims clay court tournament title in 1986, 1987 and 1988. She lost in the finals of the 1989 event to a 15 year old unseeded Monica Seles. This was Monica's first ever WTA title. Just 15 years old... and Seles had beaten the greatest women's clay court player of all time. Evert was 34. Seles lost to Martina Navratilova in the finals at Dallas in September of 1989 (7-6, 6-3) when Monica was 15 and Martina was 33. Monica beat Martina (6-1, 6-1) for the title at the 1990 Italian Open when she was 16 and Martina was 34. Monica beat Martina all 3 times they met in a final in 1990. Martina beat Monica (6-2, 7-6) for the title at Indian Wells in 1991 when Martina was 35 and Monica was 17. But Monica beat Martina (7-6, 6-1) at the US Open later that year. Seles lost to Steffi Graf in the finals of the Brighton International in October of 1989 (7-5, 6-4) when Monica was 15 and Steffi was 20. The next time they played in a final, Monica beat Steffi (6-4, 6-3) at the Berlin Open in May of 1990 - when Seles was 16. They played again just a month later when Monica beat Steffi (7-6, 6-4) in the final at the French Open. Again Monica was just 16 years old. In November of 1990, Monica beat Gabriela Sabatini (6-4, 5-7, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2) in the final to win the WTA Finals at age 16. Sabatini was 20. She would beat Sabatini again in March of 1991 (6-3, 7-5) for the title in Miami. In January of 1991, Monica beat Jana Novotna (5-7, 6-3, 6-1) to win the Australian Open after just turning 17. Novotna was 22. In June of 1991, Monica beat Arantxa Sanchez Vicario (6-3, 6-4) to win the French Open at age 17. Arantxa was 19. Before being stabbed... Monica Seles had made the FINALS of the last eight Grand Slam events she had entered - and WON SEVEN of them. She won EIGHT of the 11 GS events that she played in from 1990 till she was stabbed. All as a teenager. And she still would have had 3 more GS to play - as a teen had she not been stabbed. She was 3-1 vs. Steffi Graf in Grand Slam finals! Amazing how Steffi somehow came out of her "slump"... after Monica was stabbed. The other GS she won in before stabbing... She was 1-0 vs. Martina Navratilova.(Martina beat Graf in the 1991 US Open semis - and Seles beat Capriati in the semis) 2-0 vs. ASV. (ASV beat Graf in the 1991 French semis - and Seles beat Sabatini in the semis). (ASV beat Graf in the QF of the 1992 US Open and then beat Manuela Maleeva in the semis. MJ Fernandez beat Sabatini in the QF - and Seles beat Fernandez in the semis). 1-0 vs. Jana Novotna. (Novotna beat Graf in the QF & ASV in the semis). 1-0 vs. Mary Joe Fernandez. (Fernandez beat Sabatini in the 1992 Ausie semis - and Seles beat ASV in the semis).
@@aBeatleFan4ever Amazing how Seles started to have success right at the beginning of the Graf Blackmail Scandal. And amazing how she didn't have success anymore when Steffi had regain her top form in the mid-1990. Must be just coincidence..... 😜
I think maybe the 1992 French Open was her most impressive win. In the fourth round, Kijimuta was serving for 5-1 in the final set against Monica, then in the quarter finals, semis and final Monica had to beat Capriati, Sabatini and Graf, all of whom had beaten Monica in their previous match against her.
FO 1992 is the proof of her incredible willpower and mental fortitude. My favorite win is AO 93. Both Sabatini and Graf had stretched and beaten Seles in 92 and she completely dominated Gaby in the semis and calmly dispatched Graf despite losing the first set (it was the first time Graf lost to Seles after winning the first set and also the first loss on hard courts).
@@jujumusique1305 The AO had a very slow hard court surface with a high bounce back then, favoring Seles. The AO was Steffi's worst and Seles's best slam.
She was an absolutely phenomenal tennis player. Still to the day in the Open Era no one has won as much and as fast as she did from the moment she turned professional until the stabbing before her 20th birthday. Although we will never know what could have been now, one thing is for certain we were all robbed of a rivalry with Graf that could have been similar to Evert and Navratilova.
No, both players went down post-1996. So we were deprived of about 5 or 6 matches in 1993-95 when Monica didn't want to return to the tour because of a minor stab wound.
Ella hubiese roto muchos récords en este lindo deporte, lástima que un loco con cuchillo destruyó sus sueños. Esa mirada soñadora, es alegría y fortaleza ya no fue la misma. Siempre he admirado a esta magnífica jugadora por su gran actitud de lucha y espectacular tenis ❤
When Monica Seles won the 1992 U.S. Open... she had won SEVEN Grand Slam singles titles at age 18. She had her 19th birthday on December 2nd 1992 - and then won the 1993 Australian Open to put her at EIGHT GS titles as a teen. Monica had won 3 Australian Opens in a row. She had won 3 French Opens in a row. She had won two U.S Opens in a row. Monica had won SEVEN of the last EIGHT Grand Slam events that she had entered. She still had three more Grand Slam events to play as a teen. Then a German man tried to kill Seles during a tennis match in Germany. This person, that some say was hired to remove Seles from the game, didn't even serve any jail time. Some people still believe that Steffi's dad was behind this villainous act. Seles would almost certainly have won 10 Grand Slam titles as a teen (and possibly 11) if not for the pure evil that exists in this world. She might have had twenty by the time she was 23.
Who except Selestial nutters would watch a video about "9 Grand Slam Victories of Monica Seles"? And a tennis historian like me who likes to make fun of these losers? 😂
how many titles were taken away from her? Can I have specific numbers? Already in 1993 it was clear that she was falling to the bottom, even before the attack. If she hadn't been stabbed, she would have taken another 2-3 GS at most.
@@Артур-с9щfalling to the bottom? Seles had one loss in 6 months between summer of 1992 and spring of 1993 and won two slams and the YEC. Ridiculous statement.
Exactly. Monica would have become the greatest tennis player in history had it not been for the Steffi’s maniacal fan, who btw, did not soend one day in jaol for what he has done!
Sie ist die beste Tennisspielerin aller Zeiten niemand konnte sie schlagen wenn das Unglück mit dem messeratacke nicht gewesen wäre dann bestimmt mit meisten Grand Slam siegen geworden schade das sie diese schreckliche Situation erleben musste aber für mich bleib sie die beste Tennisspielerin aller Zeiten ❤❤❤❤
For people that want to erase Monica’s legacy by saying nothing happen to her and that steffi was having daddy issues is ridiculous and a bunch of nazis! She will always be the most exciting tennis player that has ever come to women’s tennis and even today many can’t even match her!
Steffi had “daddy issues“? Could you please elaborate what you know about that? Seles - we do know - suffered a minor stab wound which apparently didn‘t cause any trauma.
of the nine slam titles Seles won, three were contested against Graf, two of which went to three sets (all the rest Monica won in straight sets). Graf beat her in three other slam finals (Wimbledon particularly is missing from Seles's cabinet). perhaps, if Seles did not take too long to get back on court (two and a half years?), she could have gone on to win more slams.
She didn't have the support of the tour or the players. They didn't think she should return as the number 1 player. Seles was wounded physically and psychologically. It's why she chose to come back to the tour on her own terms. Now, players have protected rankings, courtside security, and can grunt in peace. All because this girl everyone was against her because she was almost unbeatable.
@@monica012077 baloney. this victimhood syndrome is getting to be tiresome. on her own terms indeed, like getting fat. and binge-eating. and letting herself go. others have suffered greater trauma (e.g., Petra Kvitova), but they came back with a vengeance a few months after, not like Monica who took MORE THAN TWO YEARS to come back... no wonder the game had outstripped her (Hingis, the Williams Sisters, etc.).
@anthonydecastro6938 Kvitova wasn't a teenage girl, and for you to dismiss Monica's psychological state is disturbing, to say the least. You don't know what she was going through, so no she wasn't coming back to a tour in 94 that didn't want her(and suffered from low ratings) in her absence. And what she made of her 2nd career was her business, she played well and won a GS. Which more than the majority of the tour did. And all the players who outstripped her eventually met their match. And since you're not a Seles fan, wtf are you doing here? Why do you continue to watch footage that troubles you so? Edit: I can tell you don't have any daughters otherwise imagine your teenage daughter stabbed in the back by a 40 year old man and then tell her to get over it. 🙄
@@monica012077 i guess you feel good about yourself now. you needed that, didn't you? i stand by what i said about Monica. and she is one of the greats of the game. it is Seles fans i can't stand. whether they are aware of it or not, they milk her situation so that they can feel good about themselves!!!
We’ll never know how many she’s have won. Pre-stabbing Seles was a very different person. Plus she wasn’t popular due to her quirks and dominance. She often spoke of retiring young and becoming an actress. She came back a much nicer and rounded human being though lacking in the same drive and killer instinct she had as a carefree teenager. I remember 30.04.1993 all too vividly. I was 16 and not a huge fan but I was very sad such an event could happen to the world no.1.
He was very surprised that Seles skipped the tour for more than 2 years. Maybe Seles realized how much Steffi improved in 1993 and was afraid to get destroyed more often as she was in Wimbledon 92? Do you think it is a coincidence that Seles returned exactly in the same month in 1995 when Steffi's dad was arrested for tax evasion? The sly Serb of course thought that she could AGAIN profit from a nasty Graf family scandal. But she miscalculated bigly this time!!
Monica trouve des angles de jeux impossibles à réaliser avec une puissance phénoménale. Aucune autre joueuse ne pouvait réaliser un tel jeux avec autant de frappes sur tous les coins du terrain. De ce fait elle est la plus grande joueuse de tous les temps malgré sa carrière arrêtée par l'effet d'un psychopathe..
I think the presence of Monica Seles at that time brought a new style, but her game didn't progress so that it was easy to read in the next edition, Monica could still be beaten outside of the grandslam.
@@carrerau7138 I can't believe you actually compared something you have no choice, has been taken from you, to something that's in your control but not have the ability to go further... I guess that explains your logic...
@@katarinadicamella What - Steffi had control over the ongoing blackmail scandal but Seles didn’t have control over playing again or not after the stabbing? 🙄
@@katarinadicamella Well said. No need to discuss with this Carrerau guy though, he absolutely hates Monica and stalks all her videos and other opponents of Graf to diminish their accomplishments and to make excuses for all Steffi's losses.
Wow! Here again! Steffi absent? She was absent only in the Australian in 92. She was defeated in three gs finals by Seles. In fact, she kept winning wimbledon. The problem was not her tennis. The problem was Seles. After the stabbing she seemed to start playing her best tennis again. Coincidence? Hahaha.
@@javiernunez8113 The rabid Yankee liar is there again! Steffi was also absent at the AO 96 which Seles won. You think she had a 1-7 win/loss streak in 1990-92 against Sabatini because of Seles but was 28-4 against the Argentinian in other times because Seles was not at her peak? Did Seles scream in the stands in those matches Steffi lost to Gaby? Did she maybe coach her? Or were this Seles‘s great vodoo powers at work? So Seles might be also responsible for Steffi‘s 2-3 win/loss streak against Novotna in 1990-92? A player against whom Steffi was 27-1 otherwise? Wow, the Serbian Screamer must have had enormous parapsychological powers! Some tractor beams which paralyzed poor Steffi perhaps? Can you tell us more?
@@carrerau7138 Yankee? Me? Rabid? Me? Believe what you want to believe. You are the only one believing that. And you are not respectful. Quote: Graf was dominant on tour in Seles' first years, then Seles was dominant at the Grand Slams winning three of the four matches they played between the ages of 17 and 19. During the period where Seles first reached the No. 1 spot in 1991, the head-to-head saw Graf leading 3-2, with all of their matches coming in tournament finals. In April 1993, the rivalry was temporarily halted when a fan of Graf stabbed Seles on-court, prompting her to take a hiatus after recovering.
@@javiernunez8113 OK, a non-Yankee calculated liar. However, your quote here is right. Steffi was better in 1989/90. Seles was better in 1991/92 but worse in her matches against the great Graf 1-3 H2H). In 1993 Steffi was the best but Seles played only for 4 months.
@@carrerau7138 Seles was better until she was stabbed. A german guy in Germany tried to murder her for another German to recover the number one. She suffered psychological trauma and her country was in the war. Her dad was diagnosed with cancer. She was never the same after that but managed to win another GS. Are you German?
There should an asterisk being attached to her slam count. Would never have won so many if it weren’t for the Graf family getting blackmailed and pulled through the gutter by all national tabloids (those rats!).
@@danielkorczyk8181 I'm sure Monica respects Steffi and that, when she will think to her carrer and to the aggression, she will are less angry than a lot of her fans.
Maybe, maybe not. She was a pretty one-dimensional player, so she was rather easy to figure out. That's for example what Hingis and Venus Williams did.
An idol. A legend.
Great Monica!❤ The Final Roland Garros '92 is most beautiful of all times.
Steffi hit a record 66 unforced errors.
Seles, the best player of all time
@@carrerau7138 here's the crazy psycho Graf fan again.
Started following Monica's matches when she came back from that horrible incident. Loved her game style, demeaner and personality. She is and will always be my idol ❤❤❤
Her game style was probably the ugliest in the open era.
Mine too. She was my favourite will always be .
Yeah a psycho fan of Steffi Graff stabbed her. 😢
8 grand slams as a TEENAGER will never be beaten
Maureen Connolly won 9.
And Monica should have had three more majors to play during her teens, but she was attacked before that could happen, of course.
@@carrerau7138 Open Era. Maureen Conolly only played against a handful of women back then.
@@monica012077 So did Seles.
Which opposition did she have in the early 90s??
@carrerau7138 Seles played GS draws of 128 women, which included the likes of Graf, ASV, Sabatini, MJ Fernandez, Navratilova, Martinez, Novotna and Capriati. Maureen literally played against the same 6-8 women at GS and tournaments.
Thank you for this beautiful tribute to the outstanding achievements of the most remarkable tennis player of all time, Monica Seles.
Her style was completely unorthodox as was her grunt (though mild in comparison to today’s standards). But her tenacity, her mental strength, her fearlessness-in these areas she was in a category all her own.
With more grand slams to her name while still just a teenager than anyone else, male or female, EVER, there is no doubt she was on a trajectory to be the greatest player of all time. Of course it’s difficult to tell her full story adequately because the record books aren’t equipped to deal with the criminal act of violence committed against her, and all the ramifications that would follow.
But when all is said and done we must acknowledge that she still had a spectacular career and is universally beloved. How lucky we were to have witnessed all her talent on display!
The most remarkable thing about Seles was her mental weakness.
I have never heard of a person who didn‘t go to work after having suffered a minor stab wound that was closed with just one stitch.
Do you?
Austin, Hingis, Venus, Henin, Osaka all were on a trajectory to be the greatest player of all time.
Then sadly all were stabbed and the history of women’s tennis changed forever.
You sad 🤡.
@@carrerau7138once again here you are. You truly are a sad individual.
@@carrerau7138 Your comment essentially makes my point for me. The players you mentioned were all great champions, no question about that. I could go on and on about their tennis (especially Henin and her beautiful backhand). But in terms of grand slam legacy, in their ENTIRE careers they don’t amass the amazing number of grand slams Seles garnered JUST BY THE AGE OF 19. None of these players was anywhere near on par with the trajectory Seles had set out for herself while still only a teen. And as you unintentionally point out, none of these great champions were stabbed by a knife-wielding criminal, and during a very prolific part of their careers. This is exactly what happened to Seles-at the rate she was winning, there can be no question she was robbed of many grand slams, even the great Martina Navratilova has said as much.
As for the stabbing itself, the basic human instinct is to care about a person who has been physically attacked. This is the basic response, involving sympathy and empathy and all the other characteristics that make us human. It may even be more basic and primal than human, as even mammals have been known to have this kind of reaction. I’m not sure what satisfaction you derive from joking about the attack Seles suffered, that’s a personal issue for you to sort out and it’s not for me to comment, so I would only offer this very general statement: No one anywhere deserves to be stabbed, let alone stabbed on international television, especially not a 19 year old child in the middle of playing a game. Her stabbing marked a failure of the security protocols, and neither the sport of tennis nor the German legal system handled it well.
The result was bad for Seles and bad for the fans who had been enjoying the incredible Seles-Graf rivalry unfold. On some level it must have even been bad for Graf, who surely must have struggled to keep her focus (since the criminal claimed to have committed the despicable act for Graf’s benefit).
The silver lining is that even despite the criminal act, Seles did overcome the attack and ultimately Seles still did have a great career, and we got to witness her talent on display for as long as we did. Though she never dominated in the same way as she had before the stabbing, she was universally beloved for her amazing tennis and also for the courage and personal strength she showed throughout.
@@netfun8087 There is no trajectory in sports.
Hingis had 3 slams at age 16, 5 at age 18. No slams after that.
Steffi had 21 slams at age 27. Only one slam after that.
Connolly had 9 slams at age 19. No slam after that.
Wilander had 7 slams at age 23. No slam after that.
It doesn‘t need a stabbing and an (alleged) PTSD to cut off an alleged trajectory.
And Seles‘s 8 slams came under unique circumstances:
The dominant player had taken a nosedive due to events outside of tennis. And Seles had no other serious competition (Evert gone, Navi too old, ASV not yet peaking, Hingis still a toddler). So she took up the pieces.
In no other period from 1969 to 2008 Seles would have won her 8 slam titles.
Monica was a joy as a teenager, bubbly, happy, excited by how far her talents could take her. Today, she is a gracious, poised lady who does a lot of charitable work, among other things. She has a sweet nature, imo, and would undoubtedly have surpassed Graf's GS record, given her youth, if it hadn't been for that crazed Graf fan. Incidentally, he got off with a suspended sentence, which may possibly have been a factor in Monica's lengthy recovery, the sense of injustice she may have felt.
That 1996 win was incredible such a lesson of strength x
Exactly it was. It was one of her biggest achievements after all those nightmares she went through. Pity that she didn't win her 10th Grand Slam at the French Open 98. She was close
FO91, AO92 and USO 92 were complete walks in the park for Monica. Such dominant runs.
We all know why....
Monica is the most respectful player of Tennis 👍🎾☘️
yes❤❤👍
She was not always respectful towards her opponents.
That's why she was not very popular before the stabbing.
La verdad que sí, super sencilla. She is the GOAT!!
@carrerau7138 it's the crazy psycho Graf fan again, whose from Germany. Go figure.
This tally should have been so much higher.
Not only were we robbed of Monica's full potential but we were also robbed of a rivalry between Monica and Steffi that could have equalled Chris and Martina.
yeah a lot of these insane fans downplay the stabbing as if Graf would have just rolled right through Monica. Do people even realize that , not only did she win 7 of the 9 slams from 1991-93 but she defended each of the grand slams that she won in that time period.
@@alexpiper1115Look at the history of women‘s tennis in the last 80 years.
There were several players who won 7-9 slams within 3 years.
What did they win in the NEXT 3 years?
Well, about 2.5 slams on average.
Only maroons maintain that winning 8 slams in 3 years means that this rate would be upheld. But what the heck - Seles fans generally ARE maroons!
@@carrerau7138 Well two examples of people you cited winning 7-9 Slams in a three year period are Monica Seles and Maureen Connolly.
Maureen Connolly's career was cut short with a horse riding accident and while Monica returned to the tour, she was never the same player. Both players would have won so much more had those tragedies not happened.
Read her two autobiographies to get some insight into the impact of the stabbing.
@@pablofrank2466 No, I didn‘t count Seles of course.
And Connolly shows what can happen. Can we be sure that Seles would not have had a career-ending bicycle accident? Can we be sure that Seles wouldn’t have found the love of her life and founded a family instead of hitting a yellow ball? Can we sure that Seles would not have developed the shoulder injury that hampered her from 1997 on a few years earlier?
The point of the stats I mentioned is that winning 7-9 slams in 3 years doesn‘t mean a lot for the next 3 years.
@@pablofrank2466 For me it was an eye-opener that Seles didn‘t provide the court of the Parche trial with her medical records. The judges wanted to know about the impact the stabbing had had on her, the psychological one. A severe trauma would have influenced the sentencing of Parche considerably.
Seles didn‘t send the medical records to the judges….
Thank you for this video ; love you Monica 💗
Monica Seles had won EIGHT Grand Slam singles titles shortly after turning 19.
Seles had won SEVEN Grand Slam titles at age 18.
Martina Hingis had won 5 Grand Slam titles at age 18.
Steffi Graf had won 3 at age 18.
Boris Becker and Bjorn Borg had both won 2 GS titles at age 18.
Perhaps the best 🎉
#1 Seles vs. Graf 2-5 win/loss.
😅😂🤣😂😅
@@carrerau7138 two before the incident and 5 after!
@@rattata30 2-3 before and 0-2 after the stabbing.
After the stabbing Seles defeated Graf at 1999 Australian Open quarterfinal
@@odaniscabrales3876 Seles wasn‘t #1 in 1999 anymore.
Should have been many more majors for her, but fortunately Seles was such a phenomenal force as a teen she still won a solid amount before a psycho got to her.
What hurts even more was the response from the WTA players and the German court rulings...
How she have survived it shows how tough she truly is... but
Should have been far less.
Most of her slams in the early 90s were blackmail slams - won only because the great Steffi was hampered by a nasty blackmail scandal.
@@carrerau7138 Nope- Monica had eight slams as a teen, with three more to play before she hit 20, when a psycho stabbed her in the back and stopped her momentum. If Seles was really a subpar player who posed no real threat to Graf, no nefarious criminal action would've been necessary to stop Monica from playing. You can put any kind of asinine spin on it you want, but history shows and the public knows exactly what happened to Monica.
@@slc2466 Subpar player?
No real threat to Steffi?
Who said that?
Anyway, when a lunatic sees something as “necessary“ it doesn’t mean that it really IS necessary. Parche had the intellectual level of an average Selestial nutter.
@@carrerau7138the way she got stabbed in a live match by crazy fan of her biggest rival was even nastier.
My most favourite tennis player of all time
GOAT of women’s tennis
Grunter of all time?
So what?
@@carrerau7138here you are once again. What a sad individual you truly are.
@@jamesr2164 I am actually quite happy.
Watching all the videos with Steffi winning 22 slams and the Golden Slam.
And making fun of Selestial losers in between.
@@carrerau7138You are nowhere near happy my guy 😅😉
Short haired Monica is god tier😂. Seles should always be in the top ten of greatest women’s tennis players. She had 8 grand slams as a teen with a strong rival in Steffi and no slouches in vicario, Sabitini, Navratilova, navotna etc. These ladies were always showing up in the quarters semis and finals and seles handle her business. The stab took away here fearlessness and I would say the loss of her dad kinda sealed her career path. She still managed to beat everyone but top 4 or 5 players when came back but the edge and definitely the fitness was gone. Still she’s a gracious champion and I’ll always be a fan.
When Seles won her slams in the early 90s
1) Evert was gone
2) Navratilova was in her mid-30
3) Steffi in the worst slump of her career
4) Sanchez not yet peaking
5) Hingis still a toddler.
Kudos to Seles for using that window of opportunity to the max!
@@carrerau7138 all those things you stated can be used define any number of players who rose to the top. Seles still accomplished what she accomplished and was seen as such a threat that someone tried to take her out to benefit a player who was, as you said, slumping.
@@carrerau7138 - Chris Evert had won the Houston Virginia Slims clay court tournament title in 1986, 1987 and 1988. She lost in the finals of the 1989 event to a 15 year old unseeded Monica Seles. This was Monica's first ever WTA title. Just 15 years old... and Seles had beaten the greatest women's clay court player of all time. Evert was 34.
Seles lost to Martina Navratilova in the finals at Dallas in September of 1989 (7-6, 6-3) when Monica was 15 and Martina was 33. Monica beat Martina (6-1, 6-1) for the title at the 1990 Italian Open when she was 16 and Martina was 34. Monica beat Martina all 3 times they met in a final in 1990. Martina beat Monica (6-2, 7-6) for the title at Indian Wells in 1991 when Martina was 35 and Monica was 17. But Monica beat Martina (7-6, 6-1) at the US Open later that year.
Seles lost to Steffi Graf in the finals of the Brighton International in October of 1989 (7-5, 6-4) when Monica was 15 and Steffi was 20. The next time they played in a final, Monica beat Steffi (6-4, 6-3) at the Berlin Open in May of 1990 - when Seles was 16. They played again just a month later when Monica beat Steffi (7-6, 6-4) in the final at the French Open. Again Monica was just 16 years old.
In November of 1990, Monica beat Gabriela Sabatini (6-4, 5-7, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2) in the final to win the WTA Finals at age 16. Sabatini was 20. She would beat Sabatini again in March of 1991 (6-3, 7-5) for the title in Miami.
In January of 1991, Monica beat Jana Novotna (5-7, 6-3, 6-1) to win the Australian Open after just turning 17. Novotna was 22.
In June of 1991, Monica beat Arantxa Sanchez Vicario (6-3, 6-4) to win the French Open at age 17. Arantxa was 19.
Before being stabbed... Monica Seles had made the FINALS of the last eight Grand Slam events she had entered - and WON SEVEN of them.
She won EIGHT of the 11 GS events that she played in from 1990 till she was stabbed. All as a teenager. And she still would have had 3 more GS to play - as a teen had she not been stabbed.
She was 3-1 vs. Steffi Graf in Grand Slam finals!
Amazing how Steffi somehow came out of her "slump"... after Monica was stabbed.
The other GS she won in before stabbing...
She was 1-0 vs. Martina Navratilova.(Martina beat Graf in the 1991 US Open semis - and Seles beat Capriati in the semis)
2-0 vs. ASV. (ASV beat Graf in the 1991 French semis - and Seles beat Sabatini in the semis). (ASV beat Graf in the QF of the 1992 US Open and then beat Manuela Maleeva in the semis. MJ Fernandez beat Sabatini in the QF - and Seles beat Fernandez in the semis).
1-0 vs. Jana Novotna. (Novotna beat Graf in the QF & ASV in the semis).
1-0 vs. Mary Joe Fernandez. (Fernandez beat Sabatini in the 1992 Ausie semis - and Seles beat ASV in the semis).
@@aBeatleFan4ever Amazing how Seles started to have success right at the beginning of the Graf Blackmail Scandal.
And amazing how she didn't have success anymore when Steffi had regain her top form in the mid-1990.
Must be just coincidence..... 😜
She is at the very top of all of them and we all know this. Fan or not.
I think maybe the 1992 French Open was her most impressive win. In the fourth round, Kijimuta was serving for 5-1 in the final set against Monica, then in the quarter finals, semis and final Monica had to beat Capriati, Sabatini and Graf, all of whom had beaten Monica in their previous match against her.
FO 1992 is the proof of her incredible willpower and mental fortitude. My favorite win is AO 93. Both Sabatini and Graf had stretched and beaten Seles in 92 and she completely dominated Gaby in the semis and calmly dispatched Graf despite losing the first set (it was the first time Graf lost to Seles after winning the first set and also the first loss on hard courts).
@@jujumusique1305 The AO had a very slow hard court surface with a high bounce back then, favoring Seles.
The AO was Steffi's worst and Seles's best slam.
Monica was a genuine prodigy. She was an instinctual champion from the get go. The stabbing changed what could've been.
She was an absolutely phenomenal tennis player. Still to the day in the Open Era no one has won as much and as fast as she did from the moment she turned professional until the stabbing before her 20th birthday. Although we will never know what could have been now, one thing is for certain we were all robbed of a rivalry with Graf that could have been similar to Evert and Navratilova.
No, both players went down post-1996.
So we were deprived of about 5 or 6 matches in 1993-95 when Monica didn't want to return to the tour because of a minor stab wound.
@carrerau7138 here's the crazy psycho Graf fan again.
@carrerau7138 it's the crazy psycho Graf fan again, whose also from Germany no less. Go figure.
Number one...❤
One and only Monica! I adore her. The biggest class act in tennis ever!
She would have the most beautiful record track today if only sicks were locked up in time...
Seles was an amazing champion. Always gracious in victory or defeat. Once in a lifetime talent.
Ella hubiese roto muchos récords en este lindo deporte, lástima que un loco con cuchillo destruyó sus sueños. Esa mirada soñadora, es alegría y fortaleza ya no fue la misma. Siempre he admirado a esta magnífica jugadora por su gran actitud de lucha y espectacular tenis ❤
When Monica Seles won the 1992 U.S. Open... she had won SEVEN Grand Slam singles titles at age 18.
She had her 19th birthday on December 2nd 1992 - and then won the 1993 Australian Open to put her at EIGHT GS titles as a teen.
Monica had won 3 Australian Opens in a row. She had won 3 French Opens in a row. She had won two U.S Opens in a row.
Monica had won SEVEN of the last EIGHT Grand Slam events that she had entered.
She still had three more Grand Slam events to play as a teen.
Then a German man tried to kill Seles during a tennis match in Germany. This person, that some say was hired to remove Seles from the game, didn't even serve any jail time. Some people still believe that Steffi's dad was behind this villainous act.
Seles would almost certainly have won 10 Grand Slam titles as a teen (and possibly 11) if not for the pure evil that exists in this world.
She might have had twenty by the time she was 23.
Love you 😍 Monica the queen
Now that I am reading all the comments, I feel so fine. Carrerau7138 is the only one insulting people and diminishing Monica. So comforting. Hahaha. 😂
Who except Selestial nutters would watch a video about "9 Grand Slam Victories of Monica Seles"?
And a tennis historian like me who likes to make fun of these losers?
😂
He’s a troll and a reminder that people like Parche exist. He’s obsessed with Graf who would be embarrassed if she read the sh*t he’s posting.
So true 👍
Love her so much
Monica ❤❤❤
she was unfairly robbed with greatness. So many titles taken away from her by the stabbing incident
We don’t know that.
how many titles were taken away from her? Can I have specific numbers? Already in 1993 it was clear that she was falling to the bottom, even before the attack. If she hadn't been stabbed, she would have taken another 2-3 GS at most.
@@carrerau7138ok Gunther
@@Артур-с9щfalling to the bottom? Seles had one loss in 6 months between summer of 1992 and spring of 1993 and won two slams and the YEC. Ridiculous statement.
Exactly. Monica would have become the greatest tennis player in history had it not been for the Steffi’s maniacal fan, who btw, did not soend one day in jaol for what he has done!
I am so glad she beat Graf.
Monica seles wonderful play tennis congratulations 😊
She won 8 before she was 20
Hingis won 5 slams until age 18 years and 3 months.
Was on track to win 30-35 slams. But sadly was stabbed in spring 1999, wasn't she?
Maravillosa monica seles ...cambio el tenis femenino
Sie ist die beste Tennisspielerin aller Zeiten niemand konnte sie schlagen wenn das Unglück mit dem messeratacke nicht gewesen wäre dann bestimmt mit meisten Grand Slam siegen geworden schade das sie diese schreckliche Situation erleben musste aber für mich bleib sie die beste Tennisspielerin aller Zeiten ❤❤❤❤
Simplemente la mejor de todas.
Un fenomeno... se non l'avessero accoltellata sarebbe diventa la più vincente... MONICA FOREVER ❤
Italiano pessimo
@@fabiouk6764hai ragione correggo subito 🥴
She was wonderful base line game player .
But her game was butt-ugly.
For people that want to erase Monica’s legacy by saying nothing happen to her and that steffi was having daddy issues is ridiculous and a bunch of nazis! She will always be the most exciting tennis player that has ever come to women’s tennis and even today many can’t even match her!
Reading their comments is a reminder of how something as unthinkable as Hamburg 1993 could even happen.
Sick comment
Steffi had “daddy issues“?
Could you please elaborate what you know about that?
Seles - we do know - suffered a minor stab wound which apparently didn‘t cause any trauma.
@@carrerau7138 her dad and his sex scandals
@@carrerau7138 what do you consider a minor stab? Are you a supporter of Naomi Osaka and her mental status?
If it were not for the stab, she would have been the greatest tennis player in history
Madam sales will be number 1 forever in tennis history. Due to injury only, she got 9 slam only. Otherwise she would won 30 slams.
Monica in the record books already she won 8 grand slams at the age of 19
Esta clarisimo que Seles hubiese sido la mejor de la historia. Su dominio sólo fue aplastado por el hecho trágico que Le sucedió.
should have been like 25
No, only 4 or 5.
Never forget that Monica only won so much because of the nasty Graf Blackmail Scandal.
😢 my favorite
❤ n respect to monica seles
Моника Селеш👍💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
of the nine slam titles Seles won, three were contested against Graf, two of which went to three sets (all the rest Monica won in straight sets). Graf beat her in three other slam finals (Wimbledon particularly is missing from Seles's cabinet). perhaps, if Seles did not take too long to get back on court (two and a half years?), she could have gone on to win more slams.
She didn't have the support of the tour or the players. They didn't think she should return as the number 1 player. Seles was wounded physically and psychologically. It's why she chose to come back to the tour on her own terms. Now, players have protected rankings, courtside security, and can grunt in peace. All because this girl everyone was against her because she was almost unbeatable.
@@monica012077 baloney. this victimhood syndrome is getting to be tiresome. on her own terms indeed, like getting fat. and binge-eating. and letting herself go. others have suffered greater trauma (e.g., Petra Kvitova), but they came back with a vengeance a few months after, not like Monica who took MORE THAN TWO YEARS to come back... no wonder the game had outstripped her (Hingis, the Williams Sisters, etc.).
@anthonydecastro6938 Kvitova wasn't a teenage girl, and for you to dismiss Monica's psychological state is disturbing, to say the least. You don't know what she was going through, so no she wasn't coming back to a tour in 94 that didn't want her(and suffered from low ratings) in her absence. And what she made of her 2nd career was her business, she played well and won a GS. Which more than the majority of the tour did. And all the players who outstripped her eventually met their match. And since you're not a Seles fan, wtf are you doing here? Why do you continue to watch footage that troubles you so?
Edit: I can tell you don't have any daughters otherwise imagine your teenage daughter stabbed in the back by a 40 year old man and then tell her to get over it. 🙄
@@monica012077 i guess you feel good about yourself now. you needed that, didn't you? i stand by what i said about Monica. and she is one of the greats of the game. it is Seles fans i can't stand. whether they are aware of it or not, they milk her situation so that they can feel good about themselves!!!
@@jujumusique1305 i can be if i want to. but i can't stand bleeding heart fanatics, team or no team.
We’ll never know how many she’s have won. Pre-stabbing Seles was a very different person. Plus she wasn’t popular due to her quirks and dominance. She often spoke of retiring young and becoming an actress. She came back a much nicer and rounded human being though lacking in the same drive and killer instinct she had as a carefree teenager. I remember 30.04.1993 all too vividly. I was 16 and not a huge fan but I was very sad such an event could happen to the world no.1.
Único estilo de juego .
🌟❤️🌹💖🏆🎾👏👏👏👏👏👌
Monica would have won a lot more grand Slams if it wasn't for the crazy man who stabbed her. He had a lot to answer for.
He was very surprised that Seles skipped the tour for more than 2 years.
Maybe Seles realized how much Steffi improved in 1993 and was afraid to get destroyed more often as she was in Wimbledon 92?
Do you think it is a coincidence that Seles returned exactly in the same month in 1995 when Steffi's dad was arrested for tax evasion? The sly Serb of course thought that she could AGAIN profit from a nasty Graf family scandal.
But she miscalculated bigly this time!!
Monica solo tenía un rival Steffi, esa partidos eran buenos!!!
We all know Who is the real champion. Seles is the only one.
Maybe in a parallel universe.
But not in this one.
Her only “mistake” was beating the wrong tennis player 😢💔
❤❤❤
Teenage phenom. Incredible from Nick Bolleteri academy
Monica trouve des angles de jeux impossibles à réaliser avec une puissance phénoménale. Aucune autre joueuse ne pouvait réaliser un tel jeux avec autant de frappes sur tous les coins du terrain. De ce fait elle est la plus grande joueuse de tous les temps malgré sa carrière arrêtée par l'effet d'un psychopathe..
I think the presence of Monica Seles at that time brought a new style, but her game didn't progress so that it was easy to read in the next edition, Monica could still be beaten outside of the grandslam.
"Ona je rođena da pobeđuje nepobeđeno, ona je rođena da ostvari san jugoslovenskog tenisa"
Đorđe Balašević
I really hate Steffi Graf and her lunatic fan that destroyed Monica's career
I love Steffi Graf and hate that lunatic who stabbed Monica.
Who destroyed Monica's career???
@@carrerau7138A criminal
если бы не ножевое ранение Селеш,не видать бы Граф 22 победы как собственных ушей
🌹❤️🌟💖🌹🏆🎾👏👏👏👏👏👌
We can not confirm "if". But I really feel sorry for her potential career.
日本語で失礼します。
モニカがあの忌わしく痛ましい事件に巻き込まれなければ
少なくともあと５〜６回はＧＳタイトル獲れてたと思います。
もっと正当な状態でシュテフィとのライバル対決が見たかった。
結果的に犯人の思惑通りになったのが悔しくて堪らないわ💢
Only 9?
Far too many.
@@carrerau7138 you are a sad individual.
It could've been more...
It could've been more...
😤😠
It could have been far less.
Seles profited enormously from Steffi's deep slump in the early 90s (5 losses in a row to Sabatini, come on!).
@@carrerau7138 I can't believe you actually compared something you have no choice, has been taken from you, to something that's in your control but not have the ability to go further...
I guess that explains your logic...
@@katarinadicamella What - Steffi had control over the ongoing blackmail scandal but Seles didn’t have control over playing again or not after the stabbing? 🙄
@@katarinadicamella Well said. No need to discuss with this Carrerau guy though, he absolutely hates Monica and stalks all her videos and other opponents of Graf to diminish their accomplishments and to make excuses for all Steffi's losses.
She would have been the greatest of all time.
Hergrunting annoed many players.Navritilova had complained once
Don't fuck with the pitbull.
But we must not forget that Seles won almost all of her slams because Steffi was absent or playing some of her worst years ever.
Wow! Here again! Steffi absent? She was absent only in the Australian in 92. She was defeated in three gs finals by Seles. In fact, she kept winning wimbledon. The problem was not her tennis. The problem was Seles. After the stabbing she seemed to start playing her best tennis again. Coincidence? Hahaha.
@@javiernunez8113 The rabid Yankee liar is there again!
Steffi was also absent at the AO 96 which Seles won.
You think she had a 1-7 win/loss streak in 1990-92 against Sabatini because of Seles but was 28-4 against the Argentinian in other times because Seles was not at her peak? Did Seles scream in the stands in those matches Steffi lost to Gaby? Did she maybe coach her? Or were this Seles‘s great vodoo powers at work?
So Seles might be also responsible for Steffi‘s 2-3 win/loss streak against Novotna in 1990-92?
A player against whom Steffi was 27-1 otherwise? Wow, the Serbian Screamer must have had enormous parapsychological powers! Some tractor beams which paralyzed poor Steffi perhaps?
Can you tell us more?
@@carrerau7138
Yankee? Me? Rabid? Me? Believe what you want to believe. You are the only one believing that. And you are not respectful.
Quote:
Graf was dominant on tour in Seles' first years, then Seles was dominant at the Grand Slams winning three of the four matches they played between the ages of 17 and 19. During the period where Seles first reached the No. 1 spot in 1991, the head-to-head saw Graf leading 3-2, with all of their matches coming in tournament finals. In April 1993, the rivalry was temporarily halted when a fan of Graf stabbed Seles on-court, prompting her to take a hiatus after recovering.
@@javiernunez8113 OK, a non-Yankee calculated liar.
However, your quote here is right.
Steffi was better in 1989/90.
Seles was better in 1991/92 but worse in her matches against the great Graf 1-3 H2H).
In 1993 Steffi was the best but Seles played only for 4 months.
@@carrerau7138
Seles was better until she was stabbed. A german guy in Germany tried to murder her for another German to recover the number one. She suffered psychological trauma and her country was in the war. Her dad was diagnosed with cancer. She was never the same after that but managed to win another GS.
Are you German?
There should an asterisk being attached to her slam count.
Would never have won so many if it weren’t for the Graf family getting blackmailed and pulled through the gutter by all national tabloids (those rats!).
Here you are again talking crap. You truly are a sad individual.
Lol😂 times infinity only YOU actually believe this as Seles dominated for three years ..that’s a long blackmail
@@bryguy0111 Well, according to Selestial nutters Monica was stabbed for about 10 years.
@@carrerau7138Good remark. These maniac Seles fans fantasizing what if ...
@@danielkorczyk8181 I'm sure Monica respects Steffi and that, when she will think to her carrer and to the aggression, she will are less angry than a lot of her fans.
She won most of those slams only because the Graf family had been blackmailed and Steffi lost her form. Sadly crime is a part of life.
Ok Gunther
@@jujumusique1305 Günter, please.
You clown are butchering the name of the Selesian Church‘s founding father.
@@jujumusique1305 You don't think crime is a part of life?
So Steffi has a valid excuse for slumping in 1990-92?
Poor Monica. She would have won so many more slams if it had not been for that psycho nut that maliciously stabbed her on court in Germany.
Maybe, maybe not.
She was a pretty one-dimensional player, so she was rather easy to figure out.
That's for example what Hingis and Venus Williams did.
No, Steffi, Hingis, Venus, Serena simply were too strong.
Sells would of been right up there behind the goat Martina Navratilova
I don't think Seles would have won 17 slams.
Which would that have been???