True enough. But I’ve found it helps to buy just a little more than what you think you need. Plus it depends on your needs. For web dev? A laptop will do. For game dev? Probably a decent high-end CPU and GPU. For making your own Linux distro? Get a nice threadripper build like the one here, only consider a 3990x and maxing out the RAM for the motherboard. For machine learning? A decent CPU and the best GPU you can afford, maybe even more than one.
@@christophernugent8492 very true! I am fortunate that I can get away with a decent laptop in what I do. To those who are interested in getting into the field, I always suggest get 10% more than you think you need.
When you're working on consumer software (especially web development) having *too fast* hardware when developing can be a problem - since if you assume everyone has a system as good as yours, there's gonna be a lot of people with a really bad experience on lower end pcs.
@@kenos6939 They work on pretty much any DE as well. But they're still binary blobs that get duct-taped onto the kernel. Collaboration und such is still somewhat difficult. They work, but that's about it.
What I don’t get is that AMD doesn’t really perform well under Linux either, despite of what people say. Nvidia proprietary drivers actually perform quite well.
@@douglas5097 The problems with the nVidia drivers are not about performance. They tend to break easily when tinkering with system stuff and lack some features.
Just wanted to send a shout-out that Anthony did a great job writing and directing this piece. This tickled my engineering side very nicely and was just down right fascinating. More please
I suspected it was him, because over the years, I wondered why Linus didn't do a video on the Linux developer with the same name( Linus loves windows too much).
LTT has not even come close to scratching the surface of anything linux. It is one of the few disappointing things about this channel, lack of linux content and lack of security content.
@@eIicit tbh, LTT is more noob oriented channel and there is nothing wrong with that. It brings new people to the community, and gives them a chance to choose what they want to learn.
I like how ever since Anthony joined ltt, we have gotten a lot more (need I say well thought out and written) videos about linux. Anthony is such a legend
I have to agree ,I'm definitely no Linux expert and only occasionally use it but love to see videos on the subject especially from what by and far my favourite tech channel ( a good balance of entertainment and tech nerds imo)
@@stevenjames7082 100% LLT sort of dives into all the little different tech bits. Not just gaming, or phones. It is nice to see these sorts of things get coverage. I'm a pretty big Linux nerd, so I enjoy those, but even the other odd ball things like the video editing video, or the random Hackintosh. Those sorts of oddball things are what make ltt interesting in my opinion. I hate to say it because I love the other guys, but they tend to get stuck on gpu tests or water cooling and gets pretty repetitive.
@@stevenjames7082 I've been following ltt for A LONG time (about 6? Years) and I must say that Anthony's ideas for videos are a such a welcome addition. Especially since I don't know a whole lot about linux. Makes the videos far more interesting lol
@@klittlet I like the guy, but he is a plain asshole sometimes. Sometimes it looks like he takes the time to word things as offensively. Not that I don't understand that, when having to deal with the bullshit he regularly has to deal with, managing the world's largest open source software project.
As a software engineer I'd like to see them build computers for machine learning. It would make all of the overkill computers they build actually break a sweat. It would also be nice to know what I would need to build a machine that could handle that type of work.
He needs to make a Game Dev focused build. Maybe an Unreal game dev who uses their render pipelines for high def games. Or even Unity users using the HD render pipeline
This was quite possibly the most unexpected videos from LTT. Once again it's great that they're giving Linux(And Torvalds) some coverage, finally more people will know it's an option as a desktop OS.
oh it's an option all right, and a decent one, thing is as a windows user all my life I know every nook and cranny, every shortcut, everything... Going over to a new OS would just be... hard, and very discouraging... it'd take at the very least a year to get used to it, and another 15 years to actually learn it .__.
@@koimaxx Linii would be if Linus was Latin, but the origin is Greek, so just like the right plural of octopus is octopodes, the plural of Linus might be Linodes. Have Linode ever sponsored this channel? Illuminati confirm.
Linus is so lucky to be able to get Linus to build Linus’s computer. I’m sure Linus will make Linus very happy with the build quality and functionality of Linus’s computer.
@@rocke6318 How exactly is Linux bloated? Most distros just come with basic applications and you can uninstall them. And at least it doesn't install ads when you install a distro.
I'm enjoying the increase in Linux content. I primarily use Ubuntu-based distributions myself, but it's mostly to support them for newcomers who want a minimal-issue transition to Linux from Windows. Ubuntu's strong software ecosystem definitely makes it easier
Three and a half minutes! I remember compiling around 1994... If you started the compile when you went to bed, it was usually ready when you came home from the university the next day.
It really depends on how you configured the kernel. per default a lot of drivers are included, but if you compile that kernel only for your specific hardware and therefore deactive everything in the kernel which you don't use, you save a lot of time. And you save that time everytime you compile a new kernel version. I'm a Gentoo Linux user for more than 15 years and am compiling my kernel ever since. On my Ryzen 3700X it only takes a minute to compile a new kernel version (with my config). If I don't configure it and go with defaults, it takes way more than 10 minutes.
That's exactly the reason why I have an RX 480 from some time back. The free nVidia driver (Nouveau) still seems to lock up under some loads leaving the options of a black screen until restart or restart while the AMDGPU driver has no such problem. I don't see myself touching nVidia cards until this gets fixed.
The OSS and even the Mac OS drivers are so good, I wonder what is Radeon Graphics division writing Windows drivers are doing? You guys can't possibly outsource everything you know?
@@deoxal7947 There was a string of drivers at the beginning of the year that caused problems for a significant (~5%) chunk of people. They acknowledged the problem and fixed most of it by February. They still mention the problem in the known issues, as there are multiple system instabilities that can cause the exact same symptoms, but some people are too lazy to just drop XMP or other overclock for diagnosis. My favourite example is this guy who complained about AMDs "shit drivers", until he mentioned that he was undervolting his GPU. Dropping the UV made his system stable...
5:50 Oh no! You forgot to put the thick rubber pads on the 2nd fan! It will whine pretty badly at high RPM with the standard thin pads. Get the thick pads on there, Linus! You can find them in the box of the NH-U14S cooler.
zakius - Or you’re just compiling a massive amount of code. Compiling the Linux kernel is one thing; compiling and entire toolchain and linux distro would take significantly longer. It’s still not uncommon in software development for a clean build of a large codebase to be left running overnight (fortunately, incremental builds are often all that’s necessary).
His thinking was probably that it'd be the only GPU he'd buy for a long while. That card would easily last more than a decade, maybe even 2 if he's got the patience lol
@Qimodis Even a RX 550 would be enough, literally all he needs to do with the graphics card is to output video to a 1080p display. Or even a r7 240, but i don't know if the r7 240 is well supported in linux.
Mighty strong words from a guy that gets so offended by poorly written code that he says stuff like: "Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they not die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"
@@XIXXXVIVIII I case someone is wondering, someone used dd to read one byte at a time from the kernel message ring... which is incredibly stupid considering that most messages are bigger than one byte long and the involved buffers, specially if you are basically writing all that output into a file.
@@Braiam That's completely true, which is why I wrote "offended by poorly written code". I'm not debating whether or not he was justified in being upset, because I know that I personally would be in that same circumstance; what I am saying is that it's silly for him to have such a mantra of "I like offending people because I think people who get offended should be offended." when he, himself is famous for how easily he takes offense.
I know Tux is not "conventionally attractive" either as a logo (which he is not) nor as a mascot, but there is just something about that fat slightly anthropomorphic penguin, that grabs at my heart. I have grown to love him ♥🐧♥ He is not modern , he is not stylish but he is ours.
I mean, The penguin's core concept and personality is there and i think it can be redrawn in completely different styles and ways while keeping his "soul"
I remember being on an 5 hours airplane ride whic had movie screens in front of every seat and halfway through the linux system crashed and kept restarting and i had to stare at the tux penguin for upwards of 2 hours and by the end i wanted to pummel tux to death
@@EpicBoss- that sounds like someone forgot how to properly set a system up, most things out there like that use linux anyways, but it probably only became evident to you on that occassion
Software dev here. This will probably be my next rig. Glad Linus and Linus did the research for me. Except I'll get a better video card. I do game on occasion.
if you think this computer was crazy expensive, you should see the custom rigs some mechanical engineering firms/departments use which makes this thing look like an early 90s iMac in comparison.
@@Talishar well the CPU is still high up there now yeah some need 4 quadro for their workload (or way more but you don't talk about a consumer PC at this point)
@@exanime Actually even for (some) developers, having a good GPU is still important due to AI coding and security cracking. And in any case, a developer shouldn't think about the GPU as something SOLELY for graphics and instead think of it as an absolute ton of very small processors all working in tandem. For some tasks, the CPU is king, and for others, the GPU is. In this case, although Linus indeed probably won't ever really use the GPU much, if at all, I'd say it's still nice to have a good GPU just to keep your options open for the future.
@@dordly yes, you're right, but since Linus would be working on the kernel source code he would have to compile it himself for testing and so on... From my understanding Gentoo is the only distro where you have to compile the kernel.
@@dordly It is always pre compiled(except for maybe gentoo), but linus is a developer, so compiling the kernel is something he probably does often for testing.
linus: "it finished in just over three and a half minutes!" me, compiling firefox on a lenovo x131e: "hahah, it's been eight hours and it's still not done."
/me cries in x120eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ The x140e is my favorite small machine though, it would be so SICK if Lenovo makes an x150e etc.. wtih Zen 2 I'd be all over that...
"Now you might assume that an average software developer really takes the time to get to know the PC hardware but many of them don't even bother" As a software developer, I only bother with my personal builds, not my work ones. My work is done on a generic Dell Latitude laptop.
@@patrickvonderhaar279 depends on what shirt wins, there's a "vote" going on depending on which design wins, he'll either immediatly shave the bear or keep it for the rest of the year
Really appreciate your channel's attitude toward linux. I used linux on an ASUS netbook all throughout high school. Finally built my first PC in 2018, and obviously went with Windows cause I remember the horror stories of getting Wine to work all those years ago. I absolutely hate Windows 10 and your videos about Linux gaming in current times helped me see the light once again. If only my sophomore self could see me playing the RE2 remake on Manjaro
@@mentaloutonline9876 I have sort of an absolutist view of running Linux. Like, if I have to interface with an OS on my computer, I want it to be the only OS. That and I DETEST Windows 10. Its the first OS that made me feel like I didn't own my own hardware.
@@DanTDMJace Pop! is good. Tried it for a few weeks when getting back into Linux. I HIGHLY recommend Manjaro/Elementary/any other user-friendly Arch distro installer. Super easy to install and you get access to the Arch User Repository. The AUR is one of the last remnants of the Linux philosophy thats still widely available to many distros. Half the fun of Linux is getting it to do what you want. My saying is "half the fun of Linux is just getting the games run." It gives you a sense of ownership and freedom that is just awesome. Installed Silent Hill 2 via Lutris and converted it to the HD Remaster. It wasn't days of work, it was merely 30min as I tinkered with settings to get it AS CLOSE to the PS2 version as I can. Gonna try getting Silent Hill 3 to run next.
"He says he is agnostic, with no political affiliation." It took a full five seconds after that sentence to realise he meant that literally, and it wasn't describing his preference between Intel or AMD.
@@elbeetlebeasto you forgot the successful businessman part of the president, I'm sick of you Americans complaining about trump, in the UK here I would kill to live in the US
@@blakeok952 it's the media, they have gone absolutely stupid. You can't tell what is real anymore, they make up so much crap and, unfortunately, we have so many people who will believe anything they hear. Plus, everyone is suddenly an activist, I mean, wth people, find something productive to do!
@@christophernugent8492 to a point, yes. But some are going off the rails. Fixing the policing system is awesome, burning down the city to do it, not awesome. Some people are making the entire "activism" community look bad and change may not come as needed because of that. Vote for actual people to run our country, not career politicians. That right there will get change going. Problem is, nobody is willing to do that. Start at the local level, let's get some regular people in offices and start changing things that way.
11:37 ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS makes me laugh. Nvidia has been caught stealing code from AMD and Linux because they are open source, but refuses to work with anyone in regards to their own code.
@@angelrivera8013 : Consider this. When I was a consultant for AMD, when they were at the top of the heap on performance, etc. they were already working on Open Sourcing a goodly portion of their programming details so they could have an edge in a space that NVidia has issues with (And the cause of the bird flip...which is still pretty much justifiable today...sadly...). In their early days, they had all the details downloadble for the NV1 GPU. Had I been able to lay hands on one of them, I'd have made one of the better supported cards possible for Utah-GLX (Go look it up...first driver framework for OpenGL on Linux...)...but couldn't. Then they closed up tighter than a drum and AMD opened up further as time progressed. This has little to do with this. To be sure, if the silicon development costs weren't still high, the community would be cranking out their own GPU. As it stands, one of the fastest "soft" cores for an FPGA and one of the fastest in-order superscalar CPUs is all Open Source. VexRiscv. Simply put...your notion's wrong.
I absolutely love this. He sought to make a practical system that fit his needs and specifications, found the best price-to-performance/quality parts, and made it happen. He was really smart about it. Rather than just massively overspending/underspending on everything and only caring about how it looks (as is far too common now)
And it's not like Linus T is poor or anything. He has one pretty decent salary I bet. He could easily get the most powerful processor and rig out there, but he prefers to use excellent but decently priced gear.
probably the only time you would of heard from the actual linux linus and would of probably been the same message he gave nvidia.Mind you that said he did say about 20 years ago the second microsoft puts out software for linux I won. Well you can use the linux terminal and kernel on windows now so i guess Linus won.
I would definitely love it if you guys did a developer focused build. Focused on compiler and IDE performance. Those compile times can be pretty detrimental for productivity and focus.
if you're not game developing or working with 3D programming (OpenGL and the likes), the biggest CPU you can buy and a decent amount of ram (currently the "standard" is 16gb, so double that). It also always depends on the type of work you do, as others have said, having a top of the line productivity rig can be detrimental to understand end user experience f.e. web dev (but I say fuck it, they don't read the instructions anyway).
15:50 For my development needs it's pretty simple: for compiles you need a CPU with lots of multithreaded performance, over a long time. That's why I've been using a Thinkpad T420 upgraded with a quad core rather than any of the more "modern" 15W U-series CPUs Intel has put out. Their thermal design is generally garbage, and they get power throttled within a few minutes of full load - making my almost 10 year old 45W quad core significantly more powerful after ~10 minutes. Ryzen 4000 mobile might change that, so I'm pretty excited for those devices to come out.
I got a macbook pro 13 2017. After 5 minutes of coding, i decided to build a pc to code instead. I didnt know intel and especially, Apple got so bad at supporting devs these days
That's a dual core, I'd have sent it back to my boss and said wtf. Currently running a 10900K + 32GB@3200MHz, GPU is a crappy 1030 with 3xDP, just need it to drive screens. Went from a crappy 4770 (4C/8T, 3.4GHz), my stuff compiles a bit over twice as fast, which is nice, and it probably paid itself off within a month or two based on the time difference, should have convinced work to upgrade earlier. Wanted work to get a 3900X instead, but couldn't source enough of them in one go and they didn't want to end up with two different hardware configurations to support. Still strange for Linus not to have gone 2x1TB SSD in Raid 1 considering how much he's spending, personally I keep a VM copy of my environment as a back-up so I can be up and running in the time it takes to copy and expand.
If you get a gaming pc, you can get a 4800H Ryzen based laptop right now. I did that as a compromise because I didn't want to wait. I would have rather gone with a pure APU Ryzen because it would save some power and I don't need super high display performance.
Weird.. I've tinkered with PC's since I was 5 years old and somewhere during my youth lost interest to computers. Now as a health care professional and almost 20 years later, Linus' videos have made me think of another career with computers..
During my young age (now i'm 31), I was a lot into the PC and modding scene... Since I started to work as an IT/Dev/Admin, I don't care what pc I use if the thing allows me to work flawlessly with my current work load. I still using a FX6300 as my main Dev machine (Vm, DBMS, IDEs) and a i3 notebook as my daily driver for the rest. Now days I dont give a crap about overclock or having the very last tech.
my dad went from work in healthcare to healthcare IT around 20yrs ago. Transition is smooth as long as you are interested and ready to learn. I´d say go for it! Good luck!
Linus doesn't want too many fans, doesn't want "pump and bubbling noises" and use a be quiet case... clearly, he is secretly making some dope 8-bits EDM. Can't wait for the album release!
I used to live in the same neighborhood as Linus Torvald, I used to pump his gas as a teen every week when I worked at the gas station in Lake Oswego, Oregon. He's a really cool guy, and his license plate says king of nerds lol
Thank you so much for making this one. Linus Torvalds is certainly a Technological Hero, given almost the entire cloud and hence most of the smart products we use runs on Linux. Do post more Developer Builds, for entire range of budgets, that’s something I’m really interested in, as I’m sure many are.
@@TheGauges420 I suppose that if there are many people in the office, all with machines that sound like mini jet-engines, the noise can become a problem. I mean, there are rules about how high the noise level can be in a workspace before hearing protection become mandatory. Even if the noise level doesn't become that high, eventually the drone of the machines will make it hard to concentrate.
LT is also huge CPU geek, knowing their workings really well and have lately been quite vocal ( [ surprised pikachu face ] ) about how Intel's not having their shit together.
"The other Linus" Funnily enough, that is how he's now known on the internet. When you search Linus, the one that comes up is Linus Sebastian, not Torvalds
I cannot stretch enough how much I respect, like and appreciate the fact that you learned and kept using the correct way of pronouncing Linus's name, acknowledging that the English/American way is not the only way of pronouncing a word. 👍👏👏👏👏👍
Thanks for showing us what a developer would like to build. I’m a software engineer myself and I was always disappointed that basically all the computer building videos on TH-cam were always focused on gamers. That was really informative :)
I mean a dev PC would just be focused a high end CPU If you are doing any AI stuff then you would want a GPU, which may make your PC look like a gaming one anyways.
@@wuokawuoka tbf, a decent gaming rig is essentially a productivity all rounder The only difference will be storage speeds and ram. And if you have the money, a more op CPU, according to linus, the moment you're making money with the computer, you no longer look at $/perf, but at a time saved perspective as time saved ~ money saved. So if a 700$ cpu saves you 30 min/day, it's a worthwhile investment depending on how much you cost per hour That's the difficulty with workstations is that there are so many variables. If you need a remote client, basically a cheap ass chrome book would work. If you're rendering a basic cad once a week, maybe budget gaming pc, vfx, max everything...
17:13 "you don't have to worry about using clips that are 10 years old" while showing a clip of the NASA Space Shuttle taking off... (last flown in 2011), aktchualiiiiy)
@@abramhansen That particular shuttle launch is nearly 40 years old. You can tell it's Columbia (crashed in 2003) because of the black heat tiles on the upper side of the wings, and you know it's one of the first few launches ever because the big external tank in the middle is painted white. They started leaving that an unpainted orange in later flights. So I estimate this launch to be from around 1982 or so.
Useless fact alert: That penguin that inspired the 'brand character' is from a series of electricity board adverts created by Nick Park (Aardman Animations) of Wallace and Gromit fame, in the wake of the short Creature Comforts. One of the most loved ad campaigns of its era before the entire industry was taken over by meerkats and opera singers.
oh hell no there is no way in hell Linus Torvald would appear on a gaming focused show and am sure linus wouldn't appreciate some of Linux linus more sally outburts when he famously called the ubuntu creators a bunch of retards at ubuntu own press event.
I am always a Linux guy , so when a saw LTT in twitter I misread it as Linux tech tips and I followed them. In few days came to realize it's Linus tech tips and guess what , now I'm fan of both Linus es
Linus: "Split personalities are no joke. leenus knows. Just ask him." Leenus: "hey I don't have a split personality, just a love for computers. Just ask Linus, he knows."
A man after my own heart I built an extremely similar PC 6 months ago. Dark Base 700, Be Quiet CPU cooler, 9700k, 5700 XT, Aorus Master, 850w Corsair PSU, etc. I too was going for quiet performance, I love it.
15:40 There's a reason for that. Depending on the developer you can have different needs. If you develop apps/OS for desktop (like word, linux kernel, etc) you would need beefy CPU to compile these programs in a reasonable time. It's similar for enterprise Java stuff. Game developers need that and beefy GPU (I'm talking about Unreal/Unity not RPG maker). Mobile developers also need beefy CPU for virtualization and reliable Internet access (I mean most people need reliable internet since since pretty much every app needs Internet but some more than others). Web developers like myself -really don't need beefy CPU since they don't need to compile anything- could use CPU or not depending on workflow, I care more about reliable Internet and I can theoretically work on a laptop. I do anyway because I game and in case I do freelance stuff that would require compiling. Plus I really like building PCs and its cost effectiveness. Edit: Ok so Web Developers do need to compile but it varies. I mostly work on apps already on the web in test environments and don't recreate them on my personal machine. If you were doing one from the ground up then yes CPU power would be necessary. If your web app is making clients computer's chug, 95% of the time you're doing something wrong. Everyone's tech stack is different and no one web developer has the same workflow as another. Hundreds of tabs seems overkill to me though. Also across all developers RAM is very crucial nowadays.
Soon WebGL/WebGPU will be a requirement for web dev positions much like modern frameworks so low-mid range laptops are going to be out of the question. As a developer the most important thing you need is the targeted architecture and OS. You can cross compile to PPC and run it in QEMU all you want, but unless you have an actual PPC system you don't know if it works.
Of you're a web developer but you don't have to compile you are doing something wrong :). Go, Javascript, php, Java.. Running scss/sass, webpack, lining, bable... I fill 8+ cores easily
I do a lot of ML and its also having a good nvidia gpu (like tensorflow and pytorch that uses cuda) a lot of times to speed up training and running ML models
I'm a game dev, I agree with this but I'd also add that I need a TON of RAM. Unity + Slack + IntelliJ + Rider + Firefox + Discord + Spotify = hungry. I also need a lot of IO for hooking up a bunch of devices for mobile testing. GPU doesn't need to be TOO beefy, but it definitely can't be integrated.
@@jorismak by the time I drag my eyes from code monitor to browser monitor the compiler is done. And if it isn't, put that code into the garbage bin because it doesn't belong into a web browser.
@@swegboii6447 no, because you can't assume that the guy needs a car everyday and loves cars. Some people just don't invest much in cars because they rarely need them. I'd rather buy a $5 membership to support my favourite creator than a $20k car that I don't need. The reason people are broke in America is because of poor financial education (which has nothing to do with this) and people being born into poverty that they can't get out of. Of course, the shitty government is at fault too.
@@nottsoserious the government gave me a $1.2k check for a stimulus and then also gave me a check for $9,400 last week and now pays me $758/wk to sit on my ass.
A point to: "a lot of developers can't be bothered build their own pc": I met a few who don't even know how. Mostly, the graduated from other topics like mathematics or engineering and not computer sience, and now little how a computer actually works. I had a coworker, that was terrified opening her laptop to install an SSD, and instead went for the corporate it support, while I just said "where can I get a screw driver in here".
I just built myself a new pc, saw this video as I was setting up my parts list and went with a be quiet 500tg case, be quiet 750w modular psu and the be quiet dark rock slim cpu cooler, it’s a gorgeously quiet machine. Thanks heaps for the tips guys
When it was announced torvalds was moving to the same setup I have I felt so excited, and this only makes me more excited, can't wait to see what everyone else is doing with the same setup in the near future
I thought this was a great spotlight and introduction to the other Linus (someone who I had no idea existed ). I would love to see this become a series, introducing other prominent people in the tech space, and how they optimized their PCs for themselves. To kickstart the idea, an Animator for feature film and how they would build their PC would be cool since working from home is becoming more prominent in the film industry. Specifically an Animator, and NOT a lighter or compositor because as an animator i don't care about render speed, I care about GPU caching and how fast the rigs are inside maya. Speeding this up has been more nebulous than "put more cores in it for faster rendering" and I literally had an Autodesk employee and Maya Expert come into the office and tell me to "throw more money at it" when I asked him what component specifically would increase my viewport FPS the most; He didn't even know.
"We don't understand the true needs of a developer"
As a developer, I can tell you, neither do we.
sooo true
True enough. But I’ve found it helps to buy just a little more than what you think you need. Plus it depends on your needs. For web dev? A laptop will do. For game dev? Probably a decent high-end CPU and GPU. For making your own Linux distro? Get a nice threadripper build like the one here, only consider a 3990x and maxing out the RAM for the motherboard.
For machine learning? A decent CPU and the best GPU you can afford, maybe even more than one.
@@christophernugent8492 very true! I am fortunate that I can get away with a decent laptop in what I do. To those who are interested in getting into the field, I always suggest get 10% more than you think you need.
When you're working on consumer software (especially web development) having *too fast* hardware when developing can be a problem - since if you assume everyone has a system as good as yours, there's gonna be a lot of people with a really bad experience on lower end pcs.
@@CalvinWalton that's why you do validation on a 2 thread VM running win7 IE 8
The reason why Linus hates Nvidia is because of their proprietary drivers and no collaboration on helping port them to Linux.
At least they now work with plasma
@@kenos6939 They work on pretty much any DE as well. But they're still binary blobs that get duct-taped onto the kernel. Collaboration und such is still somewhat difficult. They work, but that's about it.
At the same time they are begging with all their guts to be part of the ecossystem - hipocrisy at its finest
What I don’t get is that AMD doesn’t really perform well under Linux either, despite of what people say. Nvidia proprietary drivers actually perform quite well.
@@douglas5097 The problems with the nVidia drivers are not about performance. They tend to break easily when tinkering with system stuff and lack some features.
He's not only the creater of linux, he also created git.
5% of the viewer used linux once in their life, and 0.1 know what is git lmao
Torvalds said: "I'm an egotistical bastard, and I name all my projects after myself. First 'Linux', now 'git'."
@@mirsella6204 so you are saying viewers that spend so much time in this channel need a bit of an upgrade in education?
@@mirsella6204 Except you're wrong, because Everyone on the internet is using Linux whether they know it or not.
And changed my lifestyle with his inventions i accualy look up to him
Linus: "I need to re-trace my steps"
Nvidia: "DID SOMEBODY SAY RAYTRACE!?"
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Just wanted to send a shout-out that Anthony did a great job writing and directing this piece. This tickled my engineering side very nicely and was just down right fascinating.
More please
I suspected it was him, because over the years, I wondered why Linus didn't do a video on the Linux developer with the same name( Linus loves windows too much).
What? lay off the shrooms bro.
I'm a developer and a linux user.
I like both Linus(es).
Its been quite satisfying to see you embrace the linux side of things.
both Lini* is the correct term :)
Same here. Love to see them embracing it.
LTT has not even come close to scratching the surface of anything linux. It is one of the few disappointing things about this channel, lack of linux content and lack of security content.
@@eIicit yeah but they at least plant the seed and point people in the right direction like level1techs etc.
@@eIicit tbh, LTT is more noob oriented channel and there is nothing wrong with that. It brings new people to the community, and gives them a chance to choose what they want to learn.
I like how ever since Anthony joined ltt, we have gotten a lot more (need I say well thought out and written) videos about linux. Anthony is such a legend
Anthony Tech Tips!
I have to agree ,I'm definitely no Linux expert and only occasionally use it but love to see videos on the subject especially from what by and far my favourite tech channel ( a good balance of entertainment and tech nerds imo)
@@stevenjames7082 100% LLT sort of dives into all the little different tech bits. Not just gaming, or phones. It is nice to see these sorts of things get coverage.
I'm a pretty big Linux nerd, so I enjoy those, but even the other odd ball things like the video editing video, or the random Hackintosh. Those sorts of oddball things are what make ltt interesting in my opinion.
I hate to say it because I love the other guys, but they tend to get stuck on gpu tests or water cooling and gets pretty repetitive.
Give FreeBSD some time, next
@@stevenjames7082 I've been following ltt for A LONG time (about 6? Years) and I must say that Anthony's ideas for videos are a such a welcome addition. Especially since I don't know a whole lot about linux. Makes the videos far more interesting lol
I thought it would have been cool if Linus Torvald's showed up.
It certainly would have been. Linus is a pretty funny guy.
@@1pcfred and also an asshole sometimes from what I've read, don't know if he has changed though.
@@therealb888 Well if being VERY honest means being an a#$!%le... Yeah... maybe.
@@therealb888 He's just very strong opinionated, so people who can't take different opinions well will think he's an asshole
@@klittlet I like the guy, but he is a plain asshole sometimes. Sometimes it looks like he takes the time to word things as offensively. Not that I don't understand that, when having to deal with the bullshit he regularly has to deal with, managing the world's largest open source software project.
Future "developer focused builds", I'd be into that!
well that really depends on what you develop.
That would be awesome to have software developer based PCs
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As a software engineer I'd like to see them build computers for machine learning. It would make all of the overkill computers they build actually break a sweat. It would also be nice to know what I would need to build a machine that could handle that type of work.
He needs to make a Game Dev focused build. Maybe an Unreal game dev who uses their render pipelines for high def games. Or even Unity users using the HD render pipeline
This was quite possibly the most unexpected videos from LTT. Once again it's great that they're giving Linux(And Torvalds) some coverage, finally more people will know it's an option as a desktop OS.
oh it's an option all right, and a decent one, thing is as a windows user all my life I know every nook and cranny, every shortcut, everything... Going over to a new OS would just be... hard, and very discouraging... it'd take at the very least a year to get used to it, and another 15 years to actually learn it .__.
Sadly since games with anti cheat dont work on it im discouraged from moving.
Yeah. But sadly its3bot an option for me. I don't want to relearn an entire OS and since I game alot a ton of games won't work on it
No Adobe suite = no Linux for me. I'm also happy enough witn Win 10, so no real reason to swap to anything else personally.
I swear if only the adobe suite was on Linux I'd be typing from Pop OS right now...
As a Linus myself, I can safely confirm that the amount of Linus’ are confusing.
So which Linus clone are you? The one who invented linux, or the one who didnt....
I thought there are always 2. No more, no less.
sounds like some highlander crap needs to go down
I thought the plural of Linus was Lini, or was it Linuses?
@@koimaxx Linii would be if Linus was Latin, but the origin is Greek, so just like the right plural of octopus is octopodes, the plural of Linus might be Linodes. Have Linode ever sponsored this channel? Illuminati confirm.
Linus is so lucky to be able to get Linus to build Linus’s computer. I’m sure Linus will make Linus very happy with the build quality and functionality of Linus’s computer.
No. Stohp
Linus's Linus built computer
this was cancer to read my guy
Linus Tech Tips has lately had more Linux content than me... I dig the trend!
KingTiger101 distribution doesn’t matt... oh what do you mean I can’t say that?
@@rocke6318 with a distro like pop! os or ubuntu (which pop! is based on) you can do pretty much everything you'd need to in daily use with the GUI
@@rocke6318 i don't even use linux but is this some kind of bait?
@@nootics it has to be? Linux is the complete opposite of bloated.
@@rocke6318 How exactly is Linux bloated? Most distros just come with basic applications and you can uninstall them. And at least it doesn't install ads when you install a distro.
Really appreciate all the love this channel is giving Linux
Credit to Anthony
Yeah, thank Anthony for that
MarkusTegelane what did he do?
Increasing amount of Linux related content. Good, good.
Says Anthony in an Emporer Palpatine sort of way.....
I'm enjoying the increase in Linux content. I primarily use Ubuntu-based distributions myself, but it's mostly to support them for newcomers who want a minimal-issue transition to Linux from Windows. Ubuntu's strong software ecosystem definitely makes it easier
Three and a half minutes! I remember compiling around 1994... If you started the compile when you went to bed, it was usually ready when you came home from the university the next day.
also no need for room heating!
It really depends on how you configured the kernel. per default a lot of drivers are included, but if you compile that kernel only for your specific hardware and therefore deactive everything in the kernel which you don't use, you save a lot of time. And you save that time everytime you compile a new kernel version.
I'm a Gentoo Linux user for more than 15 years and am compiling my kernel ever since. On my Ryzen 3700X it only takes a minute to compile a new kernel version (with my config). If I don't configure it and go with defaults, it takes way more than 10 minutes.
@@GeNTooFReaK weird flex but ok
@@remasher didn't know 50w is enough to heat the room
@@NUBAS12345WoT just a figure of speech, party popper.
Another reason he would go with an AMD video card:
Better open source drivers.
That's exactly the reason why I have an RX 480 from some time back. The free nVidia driver (Nouveau) still seems to lock up under some loads leaving the options of a black screen until restart or restart while the AMDGPU driver has no such problem. I don't see myself touching nVidia cards until this gets fixed.
That’s actually exactly why he said FU to NVIDIA 😉
The OSS and even the Mac OS drivers are so good, I wonder what is Radeon Graphics division writing Windows drivers are doing? You guys can't possibly outsource everything you know?
@@Seatux I hear a lot about how AMD drivers are bad on Windows but never any details. So why are they bad?
@@deoxal7947 There was a string of drivers at the beginning of the year that caused problems for a significant (~5%) chunk of people. They acknowledged the problem and fixed most of it by February. They still mention the problem in the known issues, as there are multiple system instabilities that can cause the exact same symptoms, but some people are too lazy to just drop XMP or other overclock for diagnosis.
My favourite example is this guy who complained about AMDs "shit drivers", until he mentioned that he was undervolting his GPU. Dropping the UV made his system stable...
5:50 Oh no! You forgot to put the thick rubber pads on the 2nd fan! It will whine pretty badly at high RPM with the standard thin pads. Get the thick pads on there, Linus! You can find them in the box of the NH-U14S cooler.
zakius - Or you’re just compiling a massive amount of code. Compiling the Linux kernel is one thing; compiling and entire toolchain and linux distro would take significantly longer. It’s still not uncommon in software development for a clean build of a large codebase to be left running overnight (fortunately, incremental builds are often all that’s necessary).
Dang, you beat me to it... I had to get a Noctua 120 for my second fan on my D15 to clear RAM and not have a god awful buz.
You know that they just disassemble the builds after they're done, right? LMG doesn't just have 500 random PC's they've built standing around
That system is probably already disassembled by now.
Cap'n Slipp I just want to add, for a taste, install Gentoo in a VM. EVERYTHING gets built from source during the installation. It takes hours.
Linus: "Thank goodness we ended up with the penguin"
Anthony: *Awkward nervous laughing off to the side*
@@vdn2468 I'm questioning, too
RITA , I LOVE SЕЕЕЕХ !!!!! How are you not reported yet ?
@Joshua Manon \*posts kde plasma default desktop ss\*
There's always the Sniper fox in Tooth & Tail. (See Steam)
OMGOSH He said FURRRYY!!!! 😃😃😃(yes I know this was 9 months ago but idk)
Linus: ".... how carefully thought out everything about it is."
Linus Quoting Linus: "Some random Sapphire RX580 graphics card."
Though even his lack of thought into the GPU selection was well thought out, lol.
His thinking was probably that it'd be the only GPU he'd buy for a long while. That card would easily last more than a decade, maybe even 2 if he's got the patience lol
This whole video was essentially "The part I wanted wasn't available so I got some random RAM" XD
@Qimodis rx 580s are listed for almost 1000 on amazon 😭
@Qimodis Even a RX 550 would be enough, literally all he needs to do with the graphics card is to output video to a 1080p display.
Or even a r7 240, but i don't know if the r7 240 is well supported in linux.
"I like offending people because I think people who get offended *should* be offended." - Linus Torvalds
That is something to *live* by.
Mighty strong words from a guy that gets so offended by poorly written code that he says stuff like:
"Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they not die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"
@@XIXXXVIVIII I case someone is wondering, someone used dd to read one byte at a time from the kernel message ring... which is incredibly stupid considering that most messages are bigger than one byte long and the involved buffers, specially if you are basically writing all that output into a file.
@@Braiam That's completely true, which is why I wrote "offended by poorly written code". I'm not debating whether or not he was justified in being upset, because I know that I personally would be in that same circumstance; what I am saying is that it's silly for him to have such a mantra of "I like offending people because I think people who get offended should be offended." when he, himself is famous for how easily he takes offense.
let me ignore this offensively smelling pile of shit in the middle of my room instead of addressing and doing something about it. thank u daddy linuz
Once at a Linux conference: "My name is Linus Torvalds and I am your god." The crowd erupted in cheers and applaus.
lmao i only it was real
@@mirsella6204 your English teacher must be proud
@@SillyWilly-px4bu the dude forgot an F, chill out Mr Smartass
BathRo Master Of BathRooms PooPoo PeePee
Hy Huỳnh PeePoo PeePoo
I know Tux is not "conventionally attractive" either as a logo (which he is not) nor as a mascot, but there is just something about that fat slightly anthropomorphic penguin, that grabs at my heart. I have grown to love him ♥🐧♥
He is not modern , he is not stylish but he is ours.
and there are more versions of tux, it can be drawn in different ways
I mean, The penguin's core concept and personality is there and i think it can be redrawn in completely different styles and ways while keeping his "soul"
*"communism intensifies"*
I remember being on an 5 hours airplane ride whic had movie screens in front of every seat and halfway through the linux system crashed and kept restarting and i had to stare at the tux penguin for upwards of 2 hours and by the end i wanted to pummel tux to death
@@EpicBoss- that sounds like someone forgot how to properly set a system up, most things out there like that use linux anyways, but it probably only became evident to you on that occassion
Software dev here. This will probably be my next rig. Glad Linus and Linus did the research for me. Except I'll get a better video card. I do game on occasion.
For aesthetics, please don't use those ugly fans :)
@@nlx78 Noctua has black fans so it's all good.
@@nlx78 all natural beige-brown fans it is instead of ugly back fans then
@@danzjz3923 putting beige and brown into hi-tech products is so bleh. Reminds me of trying to imitate leather and wood.
@@em_the_bee and? It’s because of the lack of beige and brown cases, not the color itself
Linus: 'If you were to replicate this build...'
Me: *Looks at the price of the Threadripper 3970X*
Wallet: *Crying*
Dude seems to spend his whole life coding. Spend your money where you live, as they say.
dont look what the price of the motherboard adds then lol.
if you think this computer was crazy expensive, you should see the custom rigs some mechanical engineering firms/departments use which makes this thing look like an early 90s iMac in comparison.
@@Talishar well the CPU is still high up there
now yeah some need 4 quadro for their workload (or way more but you don't talk about a consumer PC at this point)
Others: another build video? *yawn*
8:21 Holy crap, Linus could be a falsetto singer with that high octave.
That is some impressive range lol
Msybe he had an accident with the "LawnMower 3.0".... Oh No... I feel a sponsor segue coming on....
"Just how carefully thought out everything about it is..."
"some random graphics card"
hahaha yes, but not caring about a gpu is sort of relevant for a developer's machine
It basically needed the ability to run a desktop. Could've gone with like a 560 and been fine. Are 550s a thing? If so, could've gone with a 550.
@@exanime Actually even for (some) developers, having a good GPU is still important due to AI coding and security cracking. And in any case, a developer shouldn't think about the GPU as something SOLELY for graphics and instead think of it as an absolute ton of very small processors all working in tandem. For some tasks, the CPU is king, and for others, the GPU is. In this case, although Linus indeed probably won't ever really use the GPU much, if at all, I'd say it's still nice to have a good GPU just to keep your options open for the future.
Since the cpu does not have integrated graphics, he just needs something basic to drive the displays.
@@Niarbeht yes there are and they are terribly weak
8:21 balls went back up into his stomach to hit that one
OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
😮 😂😂😂
i was literally scrolling in search for this comment
@@WanganGhostTV Same, I still cant stop laughing 🤣🤣
Looool, I'm dead ☠️😂😂😂
Thumbnail had me hoping for a Linus Torvalds collab :(
Yeah, me too
Me too. Would've been fun to have him backseat-building from home in his bathrobe.
I was not expecting the machine to compile the entire Linux kernel in 3 minutes.
@@dordly yes, you're right, but since Linus would be working on the kernel source code he would have to compile it himself for testing and so on... From my understanding Gentoo is the only distro where you have to compile the kernel.
@@dordly unless you're using Gentoo or LFS it's almost always pre-compiled.
@@dordly It is always pre compiled(except for maybe gentoo), but linus is a developer, so compiling the kernel is something he probably does often for testing.
It was so classy that he compiled the kernel as a benchmark - I was really hoping for that, being a kernel developer myself
@@jamest9128 Nope, there's LFS as well.
linus: "it finished in just over three and a half minutes!"
me, compiling firefox on a lenovo x131e: "hahah, it's been eight hours and it's still not done."
As someone who has an x131e as a secondary low-performance system, AAH! Getting TH-cam out of that thing can be a struggle!
i know that feel, bro
Firefox takes a lot longer to compile than the Linux kernel. Firefox will take 15-20 minutes to compile on a modern i7/i9 with lots of RAM and a SSD.
@@0xEmmy try h264ify it worked a treat on my x120e.
/me cries in x120eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ The x140e is my favorite small machine though, it would be so SICK if Lenovo makes an x150e etc.. wtih Zen 2 I'd be all over that...
"Now you might assume that an average software developer really takes the time to get to know the PC hardware but many of them don't even bother"
As a software developer, I only bother with my personal builds, not my work ones. My work is done on a generic Dell Latitude laptop.
When Linus finally shaves his beard he's going to lose all his newly found powers.
one of them is not dropping anything
What are his new powers 🤔
I don’t think he’s shaving the beard any time soon
@@patrickvonderhaar279 depends on what shirt wins, there's a "vote" going on depending on which design wins, he'll either immediatly shave the bear or keep it for the rest of the year
@@ragepoweredgamer Maybe he needs time to come to terms with the result? I hope it's not to shave the beard.
As a software engineering student I would love to see more developer inspired builds. Great video.
Same!
Same :)
Yeah great video indeed
@@jcfawerd absolutely.. But it's a more perfect build..
Then theirs me who knows nothing about computers and just watching this for fun!
-drops a box while inspecting linux usb
-"Im the wrong linus"
nope, you are the right linus :)
first
@HoloKola no one cares about your Mac pro
Really appreciate your channel's attitude toward linux.
I used linux on an ASUS netbook all throughout high school. Finally built my first PC in 2018, and obviously went with Windows cause I remember the horror stories of getting Wine to work all those years ago.
I absolutely hate Windows 10 and your videos about Linux gaming in current times helped me see the light once again.
If only my sophomore self could see me playing the RE2 remake on Manjaro
just virtual windows 10 on linux and you op my friend
I also switched to Linux Mint a few weeks ago, I'm really happy with my decision
Swapped to Pop! (now Arch) last month. I'm not going back.
@@mentaloutonline9876 I have sort of an absolutist view of running Linux. Like, if I have to interface with an OS on my computer, I want it to be the only OS.
That and I DETEST Windows 10. Its the first OS that made me feel like I didn't own my own hardware.
@@DanTDMJace Pop! is good. Tried it for a few weeks when getting back into Linux.
I HIGHLY recommend Manjaro/Elementary/any other user-friendly Arch distro installer.
Super easy to install and you get access to the Arch User Repository. The AUR is one of the last remnants of the Linux philosophy thats still widely available to many distros.
Half the fun of Linux is getting it to do what you want. My saying is "half the fun of Linux is just getting the games run." It gives you a sense of ownership and freedom that is just awesome.
Installed Silent Hill 2 via Lutris and converted it to the HD Remaster. It wasn't days of work, it was merely 30min as I tinkered with settings to get it AS CLOSE to the PS2 version as I can.
Gonna try getting Silent Hill 3 to run next.
"He says he is agnostic, with no political affiliation."
It took a full five seconds after that sentence to realise he meant that literally, and it wasn't describing his preference between Intel or AMD.
@Andy Young and you're right, but this ain't the place to talk about it
@@elbeetlebeasto you forgot the successful businessman part of the president, I'm sick of you Americans complaining about trump, in the UK here I would kill to live in the US
@@blakeok952 it's the media, they have gone absolutely stupid. You can't tell what is real anymore, they make up so much crap and, unfortunately, we have so many people who will believe anything they hear. Plus, everyone is suddenly an activist, I mean, wth people, find something productive to do!
Dennis Simpson Trying to right a wrong isn’t productive?
@@christophernugent8492 to a point, yes. But some are going off the rails. Fixing the policing system is awesome, burning down the city to do it, not awesome. Some people are making the entire "activism" community look bad and change may not come as needed because of that. Vote for actual people to run our country, not career politicians. That right there will get change going. Problem is, nobody is willing to do that. Start at the local level, let's get some regular people in offices and start changing things that way.
linus has two clones:
The one who invented linux,
and the other one who never invented linux.
you could say the other one dropped their copy of linux
@@FluorescentGreen5 ba dum tss
there was one who likes jensen,
and the other one who said fuck u nvidia!!!!
but both like lisa.
More like the other drops linus *if u know what i mean*
11:37 the birth of a god.
11:37 ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS makes me laugh. Nvidia has been caught stealing code from AMD and Linux because they are open source, but refuses to work with anyone in regards to their own code.
Maybe to avoid being caught or undermined as a company.
This is assumed or proofed?
Angel Rivera its funny that in doing so it actually blew right back in nvidias face and they still got caught and undermined as a company
Well it's just a fact of life that someone will steal your open source code and profit from it.
@@angelrivera8013 : Consider this. When I was a consultant for AMD, when they were at the top of the heap on performance, etc. they were already working on Open Sourcing a goodly portion of their programming details so they could have an edge in a space that NVidia has issues with (And the cause of the bird flip...which is still pretty much justifiable today...sadly...). In their early days, they had all the details downloadble for the NV1 GPU. Had I been able to lay hands on one of them, I'd have made one of the better supported cards possible for Utah-GLX (Go look it up...first driver framework for OpenGL on Linux...)...but couldn't. Then they closed up tighter than a drum and AMD opened up further as time progressed.
This has little to do with this. To be sure, if the silicon development costs weren't still high, the community would be cranking out their own GPU. As it stands, one of the fastest "soft" cores for an FPGA and one of the fastest in-order superscalar CPUs is all Open Source. VexRiscv. Simply put...your notion's wrong.
"The whining or rattling that he associates with lower [quality] fans." -Torvalds
Couldn't agree more Linus
""""The whining or rattling that he associates with lower [quality] fans." -Linus""" - Linus
3:00 "wow that smartphone has thick bezels" 3:05 oh
I thought he had an iPhone 3G in an orange case
I absolutely love this. He sought to make a practical system that fit his needs and specifications, found the best price-to-performance/quality parts, and made it happen. He was really smart about it. Rather than just massively overspending/underspending on everything and only caring about how it looks (as is far too common now)
Torvalds is based all around.
He might be kind of argumentative and overly blunt but one can't deny that he knows what he's doing.
And it's not like Linus T is poor or anything. He has one pretty decent salary I bet. He could easily get the most powerful processor and rig out there, but he prefers to use excellent but decently priced gear.
Except he says he builds a new machine twice a year
Imagine if he put windows on it lol
Betrayed linux
probably the only time you would of heard from the actual linux linus and would of probably been the same message he gave nvidia.Mind you that said he did say about 20 years ago the second microsoft puts out software for linux I won. Well you can use the linux terminal and kernel on windows now so i guess Linus won.
I would definitely love it if you guys did a developer focused build. Focused on compiler and IDE performance. Those compile times can be pretty detrimental for productivity and focus.
if you're not game developing or working with 3D programming (OpenGL and the likes), the biggest CPU you can buy and a decent amount of ram (currently the "standard" is 16gb, so double that).
It also always depends on the type of work you do, as others have said, having a top of the line productivity rig can be detrimental to understand end user experience f.e. web dev (but I say fuck it, they don't read the instructions anyway).
15:50 For my development needs it's pretty simple: for compiles you need a CPU with lots of multithreaded performance, over a long time. That's why I've been using a Thinkpad T420 upgraded with a quad core rather than any of the more "modern" 15W U-series CPUs Intel has put out. Their thermal design is generally garbage, and they get power throttled within a few minutes of full load - making my almost 10 year old 45W quad core significantly more powerful after ~10 minutes.
Ryzen 4000 mobile might change that, so I'm pretty excited for those devices to come out.
Are you considering installing an AMD Ryzen CPU on your Thinkpad T420??? That'd be a great video!
I got a macbook pro 13 2017. After 5 minutes of coding, i decided to build a pc to code instead. I didnt know intel and especially, Apple got so bad at supporting devs these days
That's a dual core, I'd have sent it back to my boss and said wtf.
Currently running a 10900K + 32GB@3200MHz, GPU is a crappy 1030 with 3xDP, just need it to drive screens.
Went from a crappy 4770 (4C/8T, 3.4GHz), my stuff compiles a bit over twice as fast, which is nice, and it probably paid itself off within a month or two based on the time difference, should have convinced work to upgrade earlier. Wanted work to get a 3900X instead, but couldn't source enough of them in one go and they didn't want to end up with two different hardware configurations to support.
Still strange for Linus not to have gone 2x1TB SSD in Raid 1 considering how much he's spending, personally I keep a VM copy of my environment as a back-up so I can be up and running in the time it takes to copy and expand.
Nguyễn Hưng my 15 mbp, did just fine up until recently. I upgraded to an iMac,and I’m in heaven. Ymmv
If you get a gaming pc, you can get a 4800H Ryzen based laptop right now. I did that as a compromise because I didn't want to wait. I would have rather gone with a pure APU Ryzen because it would save some power and I don't need super high display performance.
Weird.. I've tinkered with PC's since I was 5 years old and somewhere during my youth lost interest to computers. Now as a health care professional and almost 20 years later, Linus' videos have made me think of another career with computers..
Ha
Never to late
During my young age (now i'm 31), I was a lot into the PC and modding scene... Since I started to work as an IT/Dev/Admin, I don't care what pc I use if the thing allows me to work flawlessly with my current work load. I still using a FX6300 as my main Dev machine (Vm, DBMS, IDEs) and a i3 notebook as my daily driver for the rest.
Now days I dont give a crap about overclock or having the very last tech.
my dad went from work in healthcare to healthcare IT around 20yrs ago. Transition is smooth as long as you are interested and ready to learn. I´d say go for it! Good luck!
What you're experiencing comes from Linus' from-the-bed hairdo ;)
When Linus shaves his voice will start cracking again when he gets excited
When he murders Francis, you mean.
Linus doesn't want too many fans, doesn't want "pump and bubbling noises" and use a be quiet case... clearly, he is secretly making some dope 8-bits EDM. Can't wait for the album release!
I used to live in the same neighborhood as Linus Torvald, I used to pump his gas as a teen every week when I worked at the gas station in Lake Oswego, Oregon. He's a really cool guy, and his license plate says king of nerds lol
they pump your gas in Oregon?
Did he have a nice car
@@evlee1295 They HAVE to.
I believe they pump your gas in only two states: Oregon and New Jersey
E Lee yes
The other good thing about this build was avoiding RGBs.
No
@@kridengaming Yes
What! That at least triples your performence! Why not?
Thank you, I hate RGBs.
Yeah! Totally
A Dev thing (y)
When Linus waves around a CPU that costs 4 times more than my entire PC and peripherals
Wellll.... I'm pretty chill because 0x4 is equal to 0 •~•
@@exzyla6548 damn thats deep
Oh... Guess the next obvious question is, 'Which Linus?'
Those parts cost like 50% of an appartment where I live.
Thank you so much for making this one. Linus Torvalds is certainly a Technological Hero, given almost the entire cloud and hence most of the smart products we use runs on Linux. Do post more Developer Builds, for entire range of budgets, that’s something I’m really interested in, as I’m sure many are.
Roses are red
Screens give off light
When linus says "speaking of"
I double tap right
Edit: holy linus this is noice
I think I love you
He is the chosen one, he will bring balance to the force
Is it possible to learn this power?
Thank YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
He's too dangerous to be kept alive
The needs of developers:
- fastest nvme ssd
- highest cpu core count
- silence
- stability
Coming from a developer. LT nailed it with this one.
Why do you care so much about silence? Couldn't you just use a headset to listen to things?
@@TheGauges420 If you do serios development, you need to focus. Listening to sound or so is only distracting.
@@TheGauges420 I suppose that if there are many people in the office, all with machines that sound like mini jet-engines, the noise can become a problem.
I mean, there are rules about how high the noise level can be in a workspace before hearing protection become mandatory.
Even if the noise level doesn't become that high, eventually the drone of the machines will make it hard to concentrate.
LT is also huge CPU geek, knowing their workings really well and have lately been quite vocal ( [ surprised pikachu face ] ) about how Intel's not having their shit together.
I've got the same case and storage for my development PC but with a Dark Rock 4 Pro cooling a 3700X, and 32GB of 3600mhz RAM.
for a minute there i thought linus torvalds was boutta come out to build his new PC
If you ever seen Linus the linux one hes a very stand offish type guy hes very outspoken.
Linus: peels off the sticker on the case
Subtitles: (uP bEaT mUsIc)
Is it wrong???
@@perrytheplatypus9386 Not at all lol
"The other Linus"
Funnily enough, that is how he's now known on the internet. When you search Linus, the one that comes up is Linus Sebastian, not Torvalds
Amazing that only 2 people in the world are named Linus.
Linus is actually a common name in Sweeden.
@@jochenliebig1562 yes, it is on the Internet.
That is pretty sad people think of him as the other Linus. Torvalds has done much more for the world Linus Sebastien could ever dream of doing.
@@Rabolisk not true, Sweden isn't a country
Hearing Linus tell me that the secondary Linux mascot was supposed to be a Furry with a keyboard is....
... Something
Switching to Unix now. Wanna get as far away from that damn *thing* as possible.
It's not just that it's a furry, it looks *horny*.
It's a damn shame it didn't win. Could you imagine how Linux would be viewed and the community in it lol.
Yeah
Means u got 1000$ pc that is still a dream for Poor's
This is great. Want MORE Linux content from Linus!
I cannot stretch enough how much I respect, like and appreciate the fact that you learned and kept using the correct way of pronouncing Linus's name, acknowledging that the English/American way is not the only way of pronouncing a word. 👍👏👏👏👏👍
Linus has been doing a lot more Linux stuff lately and I love it!
Thanks for showing us what a developer would like to build. I’m a software engineer myself and I was always disappointed that basically all the computer building videos on TH-cam were always focused on gamers. That was really informative :)
I mean a dev PC would just be focused a high end CPU
If you are doing any AI stuff then you would want a GPU, which may make your PC look like a gaming one anyways.
I'd like to see builds for video, photo, music and all related to CAD
Go check out Craft Computing, great channel that is more for the WS/Server people.
@@wuokawuoka tbf, a decent gaming rig is essentially a productivity all rounder
The only difference will be storage speeds and ram.
And if you have the money, a more op CPU, according to linus, the moment you're making money with the computer, you no longer look at $/perf, but at a time saved perspective as time saved ~ money saved.
So if a 700$ cpu saves you 30 min/day, it's a worthwhile investment depending on how much you cost per hour
That's the difficulty with workstations is that there are so many variables.
If you need a remote client, basically a cheap ass chrome book would work.
If you're rendering a basic cad once a week, maybe budget gaming pc, vfx, max everything...
Andreas Most developers don‘t Need a grafics card. Integrated would be fine.
The last time I was this early, Linus hadnt yet dropped an AMD prototype chip.
RITA , I LOVE SЕХ , WANT SЕХ !!! OPEN MY CANAL !!! Why are you responding with random emojis? Are you a bot?? If you are go back to instragram.
@@MangoMonster2007 More likely a adult website or a place meant for adults
I'm gonna be honest, I thought your channel was called Linux tech tips for the longest time
Me2🤣
yes, and i was confused, because you were not making linux videos at the time
same...
Same
shame on you
2:32
hey lol that's my art!! thx for the little feature hahahaha
Which one, left or right?
R Forde the tweet literally says the original is on the right
@@R_Forde the left! the original design is from the late 90's lol
@@lilacswimmer Lol, stinks that we didn't get a fox for the Linux mascot. Then again, Tux was a good choice too.
@ジョージ様 There was no need for that...
17:13 "you don't have to worry about using clips that are 10 years old" while showing a clip of the NASA Space Shuttle taking off... (last flown in 2011), aktchualiiiiy)
Don't worry my friend. The clip will be taken down the day before hitting 10 years.
@@abramhansen That particular shuttle launch is nearly 40 years old. You can tell it's Columbia (crashed in 2003) because of the black heat tiles on the upper side of the wings, and you know it's one of the first few launches ever because the big external tank in the middle is painted white. They started leaving that an unpainted orange in later flights. So I estimate this launch to be from around 1982 or so.
Useless fact alert: That penguin that inspired the 'brand character' is from a series of electricity board adverts created by Nick Park (Aardman Animations) of Wallace and Gromit fame, in the wake of the short Creature Comforts. One of the most loved ad campaigns of its era before the entire industry was taken over by meerkats and opera singers.
I was looking for this comment to confirm, I recognised the art style immediately 😀
Thanks for the info!
That explains the similarity to the evil penguin from Wallace and Grommit LOL
his name is tux
Useless facts can at times be the best facts.
tux the penguin after being rejected many times: you saved me, why?
linus torvalds: mmmm penguin 🐧
Thought this was going to include Linus Torvalds in the video from the thumbnail!
He doesn't like loud computers, and fancy ones
Looks like you got click baited!
oh hell no there is no way in hell Linus Torvald would appear on a gaming focused show and am sure linus wouldn't appreciate some of Linux linus more sally outburts when he famously called the ubuntu creators a bunch of retards at ubuntu own press event.
8:21
Didn't know his voice could go that high lol
no joke, when i first discovered this channel i thought it's called "linux tech tips"
I am always a Linux guy , so when a saw LTT in twitter I misread it as Linux tech tips and I followed them.
In few days came to realize it's Linus tech tips and guess what , now I'm fan of both Linus es
Same
took a sec to realize he wasn’t making the pc for himself I thought Linux Linus just told him to use a set of parts
That penguin looks picture looks like it was made by the guys behind wallace and gromit
Linus: "Split personalities are no joke. leenus knows. Just ask him."
Leenus: "hey I don't have a split personality, just a love for computers.
Just ask Linus, he knows."
A man after my own heart I built an extremely similar PC 6 months ago. Dark Base 700, Be Quiet CPU cooler, 9700k, 5700 XT, Aorus Master, 850w Corsair PSU, etc. I too was going for quiet performance, I love it.
"Linus builds Linus’ new PC!", THE MOST OBVIOUS TITLE EVER!!!
Imagine having the money to replicate this build
This build is actually not that expensive comparatively. Most expensive part is the Threadripper.
@@PeachHeadOo a $500 motherboard is not exactly cheap.
If "bedhead" is the hot new hairstyle, I've been ahead of my time since quarantine started.
We gotta get a hairstyle vid from super boy
Ive always had that hairstyle
Aight mods ban WoodysGamertag. He has been sneak dissing me all stream.
That plus "cocaine withdrawal eyes" lol
Hi Woody!
8:21 Linus Opera Tips
Hilarious 😂 and true
I thought that was someone in my house lol 😂
That right there is a concert G#5. A formidably high note for a countertenor.
"Linus reads interview while confusing us and himself with Linus and Linus"
This Linus guy sounds crazy
Which Linus?
I’ll let you decide
Lol
Да
B O T H
Epic rap battle of history ~
I'm loving all the Linux love! Thank you Anthony!!!!
15:40 There's a reason for that. Depending on the developer you can have different needs. If you develop apps/OS for desktop (like word, linux kernel, etc) you would need beefy CPU to compile these programs in a reasonable time. It's similar for enterprise Java stuff. Game developers need that and beefy GPU (I'm talking about Unreal/Unity not RPG maker). Mobile developers also need beefy CPU for virtualization and reliable Internet access (I mean most people need reliable internet since since pretty much every app needs Internet but some more than others). Web developers like myself -really don't need beefy CPU since they don't need to compile anything- could use CPU or not depending on workflow, I care more about reliable Internet and I can theoretically work on a laptop. I do anyway because I game and in case I do freelance stuff that would require compiling. Plus I really like building PCs and its cost effectiveness.
Edit: Ok so Web Developers do need to compile but it varies. I mostly work on apps already on the web in test environments and don't recreate them on my personal machine. If you were doing one from the ground up then yes CPU power would be necessary. If your web app is making clients computer's chug, 95% of the time you're doing something wrong. Everyone's tech stack is different and no one web developer has the same workflow as another. Hundreds of tabs seems overkill to me though. Also across all developers RAM is very crucial nowadays.
Soon WebGL/WebGPU will be a requirement for web dev positions much like modern frameworks so low-mid range laptops are going to be out of the question. As a developer the most important thing you need is the targeted architecture and OS. You can cross compile to PPC and run it in QEMU all you want, but unless you have an actual PPC system you don't know if it works.
Of you're a web developer but you don't have to compile you are doing something wrong :). Go, Javascript, php, Java.. Running scss/sass, webpack, lining, bable... I fill 8+ cores easily
I do a lot of ML and its also having a good nvidia gpu (like tensorflow and pytorch that uses cuda) a lot of times to speed up training and running ML models
I'm a game dev, I agree with this but I'd also add that I need a TON of RAM. Unity + Slack + IntelliJ + Rider + Firefox + Discord + Spotify = hungry. I also need a lot of IO for hooking up a bunch of devices for mobile testing. GPU doesn't need to be TOO beefy, but it definitely can't be integrated.
@@jorismak by the time I drag my eyes from code monitor to browser monitor the compiler is done. And if it isn't, put that code into the garbage bin because it doesn't belong into a web browser.
Linus looks exhausted in this video, the man hasn't slept in days
14:52 Linus as a car salesman
"this bad boy have 32 cores and 64 threads"
Still costs more than my car!
Yet you buy Linux membership. People like you are idiots 🤦♂️. No wonder most Americans are broke
I've got a 1000€ car and my setup is all in probably triple that. 😁
@@swegboii6447 what the heck are you talking about
@@swegboii6447 no, because you can't assume that the guy needs a car everyday and loves cars. Some people just don't invest much in cars because they rarely need them. I'd rather buy a $5 membership to support my favourite creator than a $20k car that I don't need.
The reason people are broke in America is because of poor financial education (which has nothing to do with this) and people being born into poverty that they can't get out of.
Of course, the shitty government is at fault too.
@@nottsoserious the government gave me a $1.2k check for a stimulus and then also gave me a check for $9,400 last week and now pays me $758/wk to sit on my ass.
08:21 that note was incredible 😂
Fr
When you thought his voice couldn't get any higher
WHen I first heard about Linus Tech Tips I thought it was made by the other Linus.
Bla Bla same
You mean: The Linus.
This is the other Linus
No, you are “the other” Linus. He is “the” Linus, Linus.
First time I saw the name "Linus tech tips" I thought this channel was all about Linux...
@@Suku1509 me too
Torvald: create Linux
Sebastian: drop things especially the expensive ones
A point to: "a lot of developers can't be bothered build their own pc": I met a few who don't even know how. Mostly, the graduated from other topics like mathematics or engineering and not computer sience, and now little how a computer actually works. I had a coworker, that was terrified opening her laptop to install an SSD, and instead went for the corporate it support, while I just said "where can I get a screw driver in here".
I just realised I have the same RX 580 as Linus Torwalds, I guess that makes me a linux master now.
It's Torvalds with a v.
Amazing how quickly the compile logs were firing at the screen. I can read every single line comfortably while compiling the kernel on my ol' FX 6300
I could type it faster on my old Linux laptop. 😂
8:21 remember, when you buy a beard the voice is not included
I just built myself a new pc, saw this video as I was setting up my parts list and went with a be quiet 500tg case, be quiet 750w modular psu and the be quiet dark rock slim cpu cooler, it’s a gorgeously quiet machine.
Thanks heaps for the tips guys
When it was announced torvalds was moving to the same setup I have I felt so excited, and this only makes me more excited, can't wait to see what everyone else is doing with the same setup in the near future
Container my friend... CONTAINERS !!!!!!!
Keep plugging Linux, you guys will be remembered forever as why Linux finally won the desktop.
Level1techs build the actual machine for Kroah-Hartman, another prominent Linux maintainer.
And let's not forget when Tek Syndicate built a workstation for Eric S. Raymond.
@@JackBandicootsBunker RIP Tek Syndicate...
Love to see more dev focused builds. Could include some software. Maybe even set up a small server on a pi? or a small pc.
I thought this was a great spotlight and introduction to the other Linus (someone who I had no idea existed ). I would love to see this become a series, introducing other prominent people in the tech space, and how they optimized their PCs for themselves.
To kickstart the idea, an Animator for feature film and how they would build their PC would be cool since working from home is becoming more prominent in the film industry. Specifically an Animator, and NOT a lighter or compositor because as an animator i don't care about render speed, I care about GPU caching and how fast the rigs are inside maya. Speeding this up has been more nebulous than "put more cores in it for faster rendering" and I literally had an Autodesk employee and Maya Expert come into the office and tell me to "throw more money at it" when I asked him what component specifically would increase my viewport FPS the most; He didn't even know.
the hard part would be finding someone who bothered building a pc and choosing every component