True enough. But I’ve found it helps to buy just a little more than what you think you need. Plus it depends on your needs. For web dev? A laptop will do. For game dev? Probably a decent high-end CPU and GPU. For making your own Linux distro? Get a nice threadripper build like the one here, only consider a 3990x and maxing out the RAM for the motherboard. For machine learning? A decent CPU and the best GPU you can afford, maybe even more than one.
@@christophernugent8492 very true! I am fortunate that I can get away with a decent laptop in what I do. To those who are interested in getting into the field, I always suggest get 10% more than you think you need.
When you're working on consumer software (especially web development) having *too fast* hardware when developing can be a problem - since if you assume everyone has a system as good as yours, there's gonna be a lot of people with a really bad experience on lower end pcs.
@@kenos6939 They work on pretty much any DE as well. But they're still binary blobs that get duct-taped onto the kernel. Collaboration und such is still somewhat difficult. They work, but that's about it.
What I don’t get is that AMD doesn’t really perform well under Linux either, despite of what people say. Nvidia proprietary drivers actually perform quite well.
@@douglas5097 The problems with the nVidia drivers are not about performance. They tend to break easily when tinkering with system stuff and lack some features.
@@klittlet I like the guy, but he is a plain asshole sometimes. Sometimes it looks like he takes the time to word things as offensively. Not that I don't understand that, when having to deal with the bullshit he regularly has to deal with, managing the world's largest open source software project.
@@patrickvonderhaar279 depends on what shirt wins, there's a "vote" going on depending on which design wins, he'll either immediatly shave the bear or keep it for the rest of the year
As a software engineer I'd like to see them build computers for machine learning. It would make all of the overkill computers they build actually break a sweat. It would also be nice to know what I would need to build a machine that could handle that type of work.
He needs to make a Game Dev focused build. Maybe an Unreal game dev who uses their render pipelines for high def games. Or even Unity users using the HD render pipeline
His thinking was probably that it'd be the only GPU he'd buy for a long while. That card would easily last more than a decade, maybe even 2 if he's got the patience lol
@Qimodis Even a RX 550 would be enough, literally all he needs to do with the graphics card is to output video to a 1080p display. Or even a r7 240, but i don't know if the r7 240 is well supported in linux.
Just wanted to send a shout-out that Anthony did a great job writing and directing this piece. This tickled my engineering side very nicely and was just down right fascinating. More please
I suspected it was him, because over the years, I wondered why Linus didn't do a video on the Linux developer with the same name( Linus loves windows too much).
Linus is so lucky to be able to get Linus to build Linus’s computer. I’m sure Linus will make Linus very happy with the build quality and functionality of Linus’s computer.
@@exanime Actually even for (some) developers, having a good GPU is still important due to AI coding and security cracking. And in any case, a developer shouldn't think about the GPU as something SOLELY for graphics and instead think of it as an absolute ton of very small processors all working in tandem. For some tasks, the CPU is king, and for others, the GPU is. In this case, although Linus indeed probably won't ever really use the GPU much, if at all, I'd say it's still nice to have a good GPU just to keep your options open for the future.
@@koimaxx Linii would be if Linus was Latin, but the origin is Greek, so just like the right plural of octopus is octopodes, the plural of Linus might be Linodes. Have Linode ever sponsored this channel? Illuminati confirm.
Three and a half minutes! I remember compiling around 1994... If you started the compile when you went to bed, it was usually ready when you came home from the university the next day.
It really depends on how you configured the kernel. per default a lot of drivers are included, but if you compile that kernel only for your specific hardware and therefore deactive everything in the kernel which you don't use, you save a lot of time. And you save that time everytime you compile a new kernel version. I'm a Gentoo Linux user for more than 15 years and am compiling my kernel ever since. On my Ryzen 3700X it only takes a minute to compile a new kernel version (with my config). If I don't configure it and go with defaults, it takes way more than 10 minutes.
Software dev here. This will probably be my next rig. Glad Linus and Linus did the research for me. Except I'll get a better video card. I do game on occasion.
@@rocke6318 How exactly is Linux bloated? Most distros just come with basic applications and you can uninstall them. And at least it doesn't install ads when you install a distro.
I like how ever since Anthony joined ltt, we have gotten a lot more (need I say well thought out and written) videos about linux. Anthony is such a legend
I have to agree ,I'm definitely no Linux expert and only occasionally use it but love to see videos on the subject especially from what by and far my favourite tech channel ( a good balance of entertainment and tech nerds imo)
@@stevenjames7082 100% LLT sort of dives into all the little different tech bits. Not just gaming, or phones. It is nice to see these sorts of things get coverage. I'm a pretty big Linux nerd, so I enjoy those, but even the other odd ball things like the video editing video, or the random Hackintosh. Those sorts of oddball things are what make ltt interesting in my opinion. I hate to say it because I love the other guys, but they tend to get stuck on gpu tests or water cooling and gets pretty repetitive.
@@stevenjames7082 I've been following ltt for A LONG time (about 6? Years) and I must say that Anthony's ideas for videos are a such a welcome addition. Especially since I don't know a whole lot about linux. Makes the videos far more interesting lol
"Now you might assume that an average software developer really takes the time to get to know the PC hardware but many of them don't even bother" As a software developer, I only bother with my personal builds, not my work ones. My work is done on a generic Dell Latitude laptop.
This was quite possibly the most unexpected videos from LTT. Once again it's great that they're giving Linux(And Torvalds) some coverage, finally more people will know it's an option as a desktop OS.
oh it's an option all right, and a decent one, thing is as a windows user all my life I know every nook and cranny, every shortcut, everything... Going over to a new OS would just be... hard, and very discouraging... it'd take at the very least a year to get used to it, and another 15 years to actually learn it .__.
Really appreciate your channel's attitude toward linux. I used linux on an ASUS netbook all throughout high school. Finally built my first PC in 2018, and obviously went with Windows cause I remember the horror stories of getting Wine to work all those years ago. I absolutely hate Windows 10 and your videos about Linux gaming in current times helped me see the light once again. If only my sophomore self could see me playing the RE2 remake on Manjaro
if you think this computer was crazy expensive, you should see the custom rigs some mechanical engineering firms/departments use which makes this thing look like an early 90s iMac in comparison.
@@Talishar well the CPU is still high up there now yeah some need 4 quadro for their workload (or way more but you don't talk about a consumer PC at this point)
LTT has not even come close to scratching the surface of anything linux. It is one of the few disappointing things about this channel, lack of linux content and lack of security content.
@@eIicit tbh, LTT is more noob oriented channel and there is nothing wrong with that. It brings new people to the community, and gives them a chance to choose what they want to learn.
I would definitely love it if you guys did a developer focused build. Focused on compiler and IDE performance. Those compile times can be pretty detrimental for productivity and focus.
if you're not game developing or working with 3D programming (OpenGL and the likes), the biggest CPU you can buy and a decent amount of ram (currently the "standard" is 16gb, so double that). It also always depends on the type of work you do, as others have said, having a top of the line productivity rig can be detrimental to understand end user experience f.e. web dev (but I say fuck it, they don't read the instructions anyway).
Mighty strong words from a guy that gets so offended by poorly written code that he says stuff like: "Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they not die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"
@@XIXXXVIVIII I case someone is wondering, someone used dd to read one byte at a time from the kernel message ring... which is incredibly stupid considering that most messages are bigger than one byte long and the involved buffers, specially if you are basically writing all that output into a file.
@@Braiam That's completely true, which is why I wrote "offended by poorly written code". I'm not debating whether or not he was justified in being upset, because I know that I personally would be in that same circumstance; what I am saying is that it's silly for him to have such a mantra of "I like offending people because I think people who get offended should be offended." when he, himself is famous for how easily he takes offense.
linus: "it finished in just over three and a half minutes!" me, compiling firefox on a lenovo x131e: "hahah, it's been eight hours and it's still not done."
/me cries in x120eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ The x140e is my favorite small machine though, it would be so SICK if Lenovo makes an x150e etc.. wtih Zen 2 I'd be all over that...
Linus doesn't want too many fans, doesn't want "pump and bubbling noises" and use a be quiet case... clearly, he is secretly making some dope 8-bits EDM. Can't wait for the album release!
@@dordly yes, you're right, but since Linus would be working on the kernel source code he would have to compile it himself for testing and so on... From my understanding Gentoo is the only distro where you have to compile the kernel.
@@dordly It is always pre compiled(except for maybe gentoo), but linus is a developer, so compiling the kernel is something he probably does often for testing.
Thank you so much for making this one. Linus Torvalds is certainly a Technological Hero, given almost the entire cloud and hence most of the smart products we use runs on Linux. Do post more Developer Builds, for entire range of budgets, that’s something I’m really interested in, as I’m sure many are.
I cannot stretch enough how much I respect, like and appreciate the fact that you learned and kept using the correct way of pronouncing Linus's name, acknowledging that the English/American way is not the only way of pronouncing a word. 👍👏👏👏👏👍
That's exactly the reason why I have an RX 480 from some time back. The free nVidia driver (Nouveau) still seems to lock up under some loads leaving the options of a black screen until restart or restart while the AMDGPU driver has no such problem. I don't see myself touching nVidia cards until this gets fixed.
The OSS and even the Mac OS drivers are so good, I wonder what is Radeon Graphics division writing Windows drivers are doing? You guys can't possibly outsource everything you know?
@@deoxal7947 There was a string of drivers at the beginning of the year that caused problems for a significant (~5%) chunk of people. They acknowledged the problem and fixed most of it by February. They still mention the problem in the known issues, as there are multiple system instabilities that can cause the exact same symptoms, but some people are too lazy to just drop XMP or other overclock for diagnosis. My favourite example is this guy who complained about AMDs "shit drivers", until he mentioned that he was undervolting his GPU. Dropping the UV made his system stable...
5:50 Oh no! You forgot to put the thick rubber pads on the 2nd fan! It will whine pretty badly at high RPM with the standard thin pads. Get the thick pads on there, Linus! You can find them in the box of the NH-U14S cooler.
zakius - Or you’re just compiling a massive amount of code. Compiling the Linux kernel is one thing; compiling and entire toolchain and linux distro would take significantly longer. It’s still not uncommon in software development for a clean build of a large codebase to be left running overnight (fortunately, incremental builds are often all that’s necessary).
As a software developer, my build is surprisingly similar. I have an older 1920X, RX570 (still overkill) and some random 3200 MHz ram that can only run at 2400 MHz for some reason, probably due to a motherboard or bios issue.
I'm enjoying the increase in Linux content. I primarily use Ubuntu-based distributions myself, but it's mostly to support them for newcomers who want a minimal-issue transition to Linux from Windows. Ubuntu's strong software ecosystem definitely makes it easier
I know Tux is not "conventionally attractive" either as a logo (which he is not) nor as a mascot, but there is just something about that fat slightly anthropomorphic penguin, that grabs at my heart. I have grown to love him ♥🐧♥ He is not modern , he is not stylish but he is ours.
I mean, The penguin's core concept and personality is there and i think it can be redrawn in completely different styles and ways while keeping his "soul"
I remember being on an 5 hours airplane ride whic had movie screens in front of every seat and halfway through the linux system crashed and kept restarting and i had to stare at the tux penguin for upwards of 2 hours and by the end i wanted to pummel tux to death
@@EpicBoss- that sounds like someone forgot how to properly set a system up, most things out there like that use linux anyways, but it probably only became evident to you on that occassion
for the quiet dual fans on U14s, you need to use LNA and the included thicker anti-vibration pads on the pull fan. If not you'll get air turbulence noises.
probably the only time you would of heard from the actual linux linus and would of probably been the same message he gave nvidia.Mind you that said he did say about 20 years ago the second microsoft puts out software for linux I won. Well you can use the linux terminal and kernel on windows now so i guess Linus won.
For me I dont care about noise, for the same reason you said. I care about actual cooling wayyyyyy more, because that can actually affect performance and even your parts if it's really bad
"He says he is agnostic, with no political affiliation." It took a full five seconds after that sentence to realise he meant that literally, and it wasn't describing his preference between Intel or AMD.
@@elbeetlebeasto you forgot the successful businessman part of the president, I'm sick of you Americans complaining about trump, in the UK here I would kill to live in the US
@@blakeok952 it's the media, they have gone absolutely stupid. You can't tell what is real anymore, they make up so much crap and, unfortunately, we have so many people who will believe anything they hear. Plus, everyone is suddenly an activist, I mean, wth people, find something productive to do!
@@christophernugent8492 to a point, yes. But some are going off the rails. Fixing the policing system is awesome, burning down the city to do it, not awesome. Some people are making the entire "activism" community look bad and change may not come as needed because of that. Vote for actual people to run our country, not career politicians. That right there will get change going. Problem is, nobody is willing to do that. Start at the local level, let's get some regular people in offices and start changing things that way.
11:37 ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS makes me laugh. Nvidia has been caught stealing code from AMD and Linux because they are open source, but refuses to work with anyone in regards to their own code.
@@angelrivera8013 : Consider this. When I was a consultant for AMD, when they were at the top of the heap on performance, etc. they were already working on Open Sourcing a goodly portion of their programming details so they could have an edge in a space that NVidia has issues with (And the cause of the bird flip...which is still pretty much justifiable today...sadly...). In their early days, they had all the details downloadble for the NV1 GPU. Had I been able to lay hands on one of them, I'd have made one of the better supported cards possible for Utah-GLX (Go look it up...first driver framework for OpenGL on Linux...)...but couldn't. Then they closed up tighter than a drum and AMD opened up further as time progressed. This has little to do with this. To be sure, if the silicon development costs weren't still high, the community would be cranking out their own GPU. As it stands, one of the fastest "soft" cores for an FPGA and one of the fastest in-order superscalar CPUs is all Open Source. VexRiscv. Simply put...your notion's wrong.
I used to live in the same neighborhood as Linus Torvald, I used to pump his gas as a teen every week when I worked at the gas station in Lake Oswego, Oregon. He's a really cool guy, and his license plate says king of nerds lol
I just built myself a new pc, saw this video as I was setting up my parts list and went with a be quiet 500tg case, be quiet 750w modular psu and the be quiet dark rock slim cpu cooler, it’s a gorgeously quiet machine. Thanks heaps for the tips guys
I absolutely love this. He sought to make a practical system that fit his needs and specifications, found the best price-to-performance/quality parts, and made it happen. He was really smart about it. Rather than just massively overspending/underspending on everything and only caring about how it looks (as is far too common now)
And it's not like Linus T is poor or anything. He has one pretty decent salary I bet. He could easily get the most powerful processor and rig out there, but he prefers to use excellent but decently priced gear.
Would love to see more of developer-oriented specs. Silent machine is very vital, at least the fan should have a non-distracting noise when it revs up. The worst is using laptop.
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Would be great to see a DEV focused build guide for a workstation PC or buying guide for a great laptop. If I could give some direction to go to, focus on the CPU speed and RAM speed as well as capacity. On the topic of capacity, get a lot of fast storage to store the source code, compilers and tools for creating software like cmake, GCC and so on. For the OS pick a Linux distribution with the latest versions of software like Manjaro Linux. Hope it helps. :)
Weird.. I've tinkered with PC's since I was 5 years old and somewhere during my youth lost interest to computers. Now as a health care professional and almost 20 years later, Linus' videos have made me think of another career with computers..
During my young age (now i'm 31), I was a lot into the PC and modding scene... Since I started to work as an IT/Dev/Admin, I don't care what pc I use if the thing allows me to work flawlessly with my current work load. I still using a FX6300 as my main Dev machine (Vm, DBMS, IDEs) and a i3 notebook as my daily driver for the rest. Now days I dont give a crap about overclock or having the very last tech.
my dad went from work in healthcare to healthcare IT around 20yrs ago. Transition is smooth as long as you are interested and ready to learn. I´d say go for it! Good luck!
"The other Linus" Funnily enough, that is how he's now known on the internet. When you search Linus, the one that comes up is Linus Sebastian, not Torvalds
A point to: "a lot of developers can't be bothered build their own pc": I met a few who don't even know how. Mostly, the graduated from other topics like mathematics or engineering and not computer sience, and now little how a computer actually works. I had a coworker, that was terrified opening her laptop to install an SSD, and instead went for the corporate it support, while I just said "where can I get a screw driver in here".
15:50 For my development needs it's pretty simple: for compiles you need a CPU with lots of multithreaded performance, over a long time. That's why I've been using a Thinkpad T420 upgraded with a quad core rather than any of the more "modern" 15W U-series CPUs Intel has put out. Their thermal design is generally garbage, and they get power throttled within a few minutes of full load - making my almost 10 year old 45W quad core significantly more powerful after ~10 minutes. Ryzen 4000 mobile might change that, so I'm pretty excited for those devices to come out.
I got a macbook pro 13 2017. After 5 minutes of coding, i decided to build a pc to code instead. I didnt know intel and especially, Apple got so bad at supporting devs these days
That's a dual core, I'd have sent it back to my boss and said wtf. Currently running a 10900K + 32GB@3200MHz, GPU is a crappy 1030 with 3xDP, just need it to drive screens. Went from a crappy 4770 (4C/8T, 3.4GHz), my stuff compiles a bit over twice as fast, which is nice, and it probably paid itself off within a month or two based on the time difference, should have convinced work to upgrade earlier. Wanted work to get a 3900X instead, but couldn't source enough of them in one go and they didn't want to end up with two different hardware configurations to support. Still strange for Linus not to have gone 2x1TB SSD in Raid 1 considering how much he's spending, personally I keep a VM copy of my environment as a back-up so I can be up and running in the time it takes to copy and expand.
If you get a gaming pc, you can get a 4800H Ryzen based laptop right now. I did that as a compromise because I didn't want to wait. I would have rather gone with a pure APU Ryzen because it would save some power and I don't need super high display performance.
@@TheGauges420 I suppose that if there are many people in the office, all with machines that sound like mini jet-engines, the noise can become a problem. I mean, there are rules about how high the noise level can be in a workspace before hearing protection become mandatory. Even if the noise level doesn't become that high, eventually the drone of the machines will make it hard to concentrate.
LT is also huge CPU geek, knowing their workings really well and have lately been quite vocal ( [ surprised pikachu face ] ) about how Intel's not having their shit together.
there are all sorts of developers out there. maybe a video on workspace setup like multi monitor configs, orientation, chairs, desks and monitor stands to support all that
oh hell no there is no way in hell Linus Torvald would appear on a gaming focused show and am sure linus wouldn't appreciate some of Linux linus more sally outburts when he famously called the ubuntu creators a bunch of retards at ubuntu own press event.
Another pro to going double what you need on your PSU is that power supplies tend to be most efficient at around 50% use which means that at max use your PSU will be running at its most efficient
Whenever i used Noctua in push/pull the pull fan always had some weird whine to it, even tried the black version of their fans. Went back to a single fan.
Yeah, I agree with Torvald's cooling opinion. I've not seen any reason to go water-cooled over air. All you're doing is moving the heat to a different part of the system to be air cooled, so why bother with it at all? Just get more airflow within the case. That's why I got the big ol' ATX and put 120mm fans in it. Can't hear them one bit, but they move so much air I'm looking at 50-60c under load.
"We don't understand the true needs of a developer"
As a developer, I can tell you, neither do we.
sooo true
True enough. But I’ve found it helps to buy just a little more than what you think you need. Plus it depends on your needs. For web dev? A laptop will do. For game dev? Probably a decent high-end CPU and GPU. For making your own Linux distro? Get a nice threadripper build like the one here, only consider a 3990x and maxing out the RAM for the motherboard.
For machine learning? A decent CPU and the best GPU you can afford, maybe even more than one.
@@christophernugent8492 very true! I am fortunate that I can get away with a decent laptop in what I do. To those who are interested in getting into the field, I always suggest get 10% more than you think you need.
When you're working on consumer software (especially web development) having *too fast* hardware when developing can be a problem - since if you assume everyone has a system as good as yours, there's gonna be a lot of people with a really bad experience on lower end pcs.
@@CalvinWalton that's why you do validation on a 2 thread VM running win7 IE 8
Linus: "I need to re-trace my steps"
Nvidia: "DID SOMEBODY SAY RAYTRACE!?"
Haaaaaa, smart one
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The reason why Linus hates Nvidia is because of their proprietary drivers and no collaboration on helping port them to Linux.
At least they now work with plasma
@@kenos6939 They work on pretty much any DE as well. But they're still binary blobs that get duct-taped onto the kernel. Collaboration und such is still somewhat difficult. They work, but that's about it.
At the same time they are begging with all their guts to be part of the ecossystem - hipocrisy at its finest
What I don’t get is that AMD doesn’t really perform well under Linux either, despite of what people say. Nvidia proprietary drivers actually perform quite well.
@@douglas5097 The problems with the nVidia drivers are not about performance. They tend to break easily when tinkering with system stuff and lack some features.
I thought it would have been cool if Linus Torvald's showed up.
It certainly would have been. Linus is a pretty funny guy.
@@1pcfred and also an asshole sometimes from what I've read, don't know if he has changed though.
@@therealb888 Well if being VERY honest means being an a#$!%le... Yeah... maybe.
@@therealb888 He's just very strong opinionated, so people who can't take different opinions well will think he's an asshole
@@klittlet I like the guy, but he is a plain asshole sometimes. Sometimes it looks like he takes the time to word things as offensively. Not that I don't understand that, when having to deal with the bullshit he regularly has to deal with, managing the world's largest open source software project.
He's not only the creater of linux, he also created git.
5% of the viewer used linux once in their life, and 0.1 know what is git lmao
Torvalds said: "I'm an egotistical bastard, and I name all my projects after myself. First 'Linux', now 'git'."
@@mirsella6204 so you are saying viewers that spend so much time in this channel need a bit of an upgrade in education?
@@mirsella6204 Except you're wrong, because Everyone on the internet is using Linux whether they know it or not.
And changed my lifestyle with his inventions i accualy look up to him
When Linus finally shaves his beard he's going to lose all his newly found powers.
one of them is not dropping anything
What are his new powers 🤔
I don’t think he’s shaving the beard any time soon
@@patrickvonderhaar279 depends on what shirt wins, there's a "vote" going on depending on which design wins, he'll either immediatly shave the bear or keep it for the rest of the year
@@ragepoweredgamer Maybe he needs time to come to terms with the result? I hope it's not to shave the beard.
Future "developer focused builds", I'd be into that!
well that really depends on what you develop.
That would be awesome to have software developer based PCs
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As a software engineer I'd like to see them build computers for machine learning. It would make all of the overkill computers they build actually break a sweat. It would also be nice to know what I would need to build a machine that could handle that type of work.
He needs to make a Game Dev focused build. Maybe an Unreal game dev who uses their render pipelines for high def games. Or even Unity users using the HD render pipeline
Linus: ".... how carefully thought out everything about it is."
Linus Quoting Linus: "Some random Sapphire RX580 graphics card."
Though even his lack of thought into the GPU selection was well thought out, lol.
His thinking was probably that it'd be the only GPU he'd buy for a long while. That card would easily last more than a decade, maybe even 2 if he's got the patience lol
This whole video was essentially "The part I wanted wasn't available so I got some random RAM" XD
@Qimodis rx 580s are listed for almost 1000 on amazon 😭
@Qimodis Even a RX 550 would be enough, literally all he needs to do with the graphics card is to output video to a 1080p display.
Or even a r7 240, but i don't know if the r7 240 is well supported in linux.
Just wanted to send a shout-out that Anthony did a great job writing and directing this piece. This tickled my engineering side very nicely and was just down right fascinating.
More please
I suspected it was him, because over the years, I wondered why Linus didn't do a video on the Linux developer with the same name( Linus loves windows too much).
What? lay off the shrooms bro.
Linus: "Thank goodness we ended up with the penguin"
Anthony: *Awkward nervous laughing off to the side*
@@vdn2468 I'm questioning, too
RITA , I LOVE SЕЕЕЕХ !!!!! How are you not reported yet ?
@Joshua Manon \*posts kde plasma default desktop ss\*
There's always the Sniper fox in Tooth & Tail. (See Steam)
OMGOSH He said FURRRYY!!!! 😃😃😃(yes I know this was 9 months ago but idk)
Linus is so lucky to be able to get Linus to build Linus’s computer. I’m sure Linus will make Linus very happy with the build quality and functionality of Linus’s computer.
No. Stohp
Linus's Linus built computer
this was cancer to read my guy
8:21 balls went back up into his stomach to hit that one
OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
😮 😂😂😂
i was literally scrolling in search for this comment
@@WanganGhostTV Same, I still cant stop laughing 🤣🤣
Looool, I'm dead ☠️😂😂😂
"Just how carefully thought out everything about it is..."
"some random graphics card"
hahaha yes, but not caring about a gpu is sort of relevant for a developer's machine
It basically needed the ability to run a desktop. Could've gone with like a 560 and been fine. Are 550s a thing? If so, could've gone with a 550.
@@exanime Actually even for (some) developers, having a good GPU is still important due to AI coding and security cracking. And in any case, a developer shouldn't think about the GPU as something SOLELY for graphics and instead think of it as an absolute ton of very small processors all working in tandem. For some tasks, the CPU is king, and for others, the GPU is. In this case, although Linus indeed probably won't ever really use the GPU much, if at all, I'd say it's still nice to have a good GPU just to keep your options open for the future.
Since the cpu does not have integrated graphics, he just needs something basic to drive the displays.
@@Niarbeht yes there are and they are terribly weak
As a Linus myself, I can safely confirm that the amount of Linus’ are confusing.
So which Linus clone are you? The one who invented linux, or the one who didnt....
I thought there are always 2. No more, no less.
sounds like some highlander crap needs to go down
I thought the plural of Linus was Lini, or was it Linuses?
@@koimaxx Linii would be if Linus was Latin, but the origin is Greek, so just like the right plural of octopus is octopodes, the plural of Linus might be Linodes. Have Linode ever sponsored this channel? Illuminati confirm.
Three and a half minutes! I remember compiling around 1994... If you started the compile when you went to bed, it was usually ready when you came home from the university the next day.
also no need for room heating!
It really depends on how you configured the kernel. per default a lot of drivers are included, but if you compile that kernel only for your specific hardware and therefore deactive everything in the kernel which you don't use, you save a lot of time. And you save that time everytime you compile a new kernel version.
I'm a Gentoo Linux user for more than 15 years and am compiling my kernel ever since. On my Ryzen 3700X it only takes a minute to compile a new kernel version (with my config). If I don't configure it and go with defaults, it takes way more than 10 minutes.
@@GeNTooFReaK weird flex but ok
@@remasher didn't know 50w is enough to heat the room
@@NUBAS12345WoT just a figure of speech, party popper.
Software dev here. This will probably be my next rig. Glad Linus and Linus did the research for me. Except I'll get a better video card. I do game on occasion.
For aesthetics, please don't use those ugly fans :)
@@nlx78 Noctua has black fans so it's all good.
@@nlx78 all natural beige-brown fans it is instead of ugly back fans then
@@danzjz3923 putting beige and brown into hi-tech products is so bleh. Reminds me of trying to imitate leather and wood.
@@em_the_bee and? It’s because of the lack of beige and brown cases, not the color itself
Linus Tech Tips has lately had more Linux content than me... I dig the trend!
KingTiger101 distribution doesn’t matt... oh what do you mean I can’t say that?
@@rocke6318 with a distro like pop! os or ubuntu (which pop! is based on) you can do pretty much everything you'd need to in daily use with the GUI
@@rocke6318 i don't even use linux but is this some kind of bait?
@@nootics it has to be? Linux is the complete opposite of bloated.
@@rocke6318 How exactly is Linux bloated? Most distros just come with basic applications and you can uninstall them. And at least it doesn't install ads when you install a distro.
I like how ever since Anthony joined ltt, we have gotten a lot more (need I say well thought out and written) videos about linux. Anthony is such a legend
Anthony Tech Tips!
I have to agree ,I'm definitely no Linux expert and only occasionally use it but love to see videos on the subject especially from what by and far my favourite tech channel ( a good balance of entertainment and tech nerds imo)
@@stevenjames7082 100% LLT sort of dives into all the little different tech bits. Not just gaming, or phones. It is nice to see these sorts of things get coverage.
I'm a pretty big Linux nerd, so I enjoy those, but even the other odd ball things like the video editing video, or the random Hackintosh. Those sorts of oddball things are what make ltt interesting in my opinion.
I hate to say it because I love the other guys, but they tend to get stuck on gpu tests or water cooling and gets pretty repetitive.
Give FreeBSD some time, next
@@stevenjames7082 I've been following ltt for A LONG time (about 6? Years) and I must say that Anthony's ideas for videos are a such a welcome addition. Especially since I don't know a whole lot about linux. Makes the videos far more interesting lol
"Now you might assume that an average software developer really takes the time to get to know the PC hardware but many of them don't even bother"
As a software developer, I only bother with my personal builds, not my work ones. My work is done on a generic Dell Latitude laptop.
I'm gonna be honest, I thought your channel was called Linux tech tips for the longest time
Me2🤣
yes, and i was confused, because you were not making linux videos at the time
same...
Same
shame on you
linus has two clones:
The one who invented linux,
and the other one who never invented linux.
you could say the other one dropped their copy of linux
@@FluorescentGreen5 ba dum tss
there was one who likes jensen,
and the other one who said fuck u nvidia!!!!
but both like lisa.
More like the other drops linus *if u know what i mean*
11:37 the birth of a god.
This was quite possibly the most unexpected videos from LTT. Once again it's great that they're giving Linux(And Torvalds) some coverage, finally more people will know it's an option as a desktop OS.
oh it's an option all right, and a decent one, thing is as a windows user all my life I know every nook and cranny, every shortcut, everything... Going over to a new OS would just be... hard, and very discouraging... it'd take at the very least a year to get used to it, and another 15 years to actually learn it .__.
Sadly since games with anti cheat dont work on it im discouraged from moving.
Yeah. But sadly its3bot an option for me. I don't want to relearn an entire OS and since I game alot a ton of games won't work on it
No Adobe suite = no Linux for me. I'm also happy enough witn Win 10, so no real reason to swap to anything else personally.
I swear if only the adobe suite was on Linux I'd be typing from Pop OS right now...
Linus: peels off the sticker on the case
Subtitles: (uP bEaT mUsIc)
Is it wrong???
@@perrytheplatypus9386 Not at all lol
Really appreciate your channel's attitude toward linux.
I used linux on an ASUS netbook all throughout high school. Finally built my first PC in 2018, and obviously went with Windows cause I remember the horror stories of getting Wine to work all those years ago.
I absolutely hate Windows 10 and your videos about Linux gaming in current times helped me see the light once again.
If only my sophomore self could see me playing the RE2 remake on Manjaro
just virtual windows 10 on linux and you op my friend
I also switched to Linux Mint a few weeks ago, I'm really happy with my decision
Swapped to Pop! (now Arch) last month. I'm not going back.
Linus: 'If you were to replicate this build...'
Me: *Looks at the price of the Threadripper 3970X*
Wallet: *Crying*
Dude seems to spend his whole life coding. Spend your money where you live, as they say.
dont look what the price of the motherboard adds then lol.
if you think this computer was crazy expensive, you should see the custom rigs some mechanical engineering firms/departments use which makes this thing look like an early 90s iMac in comparison.
@@Talishar well the CPU is still high up there
now yeah some need 4 quadro for their workload (or way more but you don't talk about a consumer PC at this point)
Others: another build video? *yawn*
I'm a developer and a linux user.
I like both Linus(es).
Its been quite satisfying to see you embrace the linux side of things.
both Lini* is the correct term :)
Same here. Love to see them embracing it.
LTT has not even come close to scratching the surface of anything linux. It is one of the few disappointing things about this channel, lack of linux content and lack of security content.
@@eIicit yeah but they at least plant the seed and point people in the right direction like level1techs etc.
@@eIicit tbh, LTT is more noob oriented channel and there is nothing wrong with that. It brings new people to the community, and gives them a chance to choose what they want to learn.
I would definitely love it if you guys did a developer focused build. Focused on compiler and IDE performance. Those compile times can be pretty detrimental for productivity and focus.
if you're not game developing or working with 3D programming (OpenGL and the likes), the biggest CPU you can buy and a decent amount of ram (currently the "standard" is 16gb, so double that).
It also always depends on the type of work you do, as others have said, having a top of the line productivity rig can be detrimental to understand end user experience f.e. web dev (but I say fuck it, they don't read the instructions anyway).
tux the penguin after being rejected many times: you saved me, why?
linus torvalds: mmmm penguin 🐧
"I like offending people because I think people who get offended *should* be offended." - Linus Torvalds
That is something to *live* by.
Mighty strong words from a guy that gets so offended by poorly written code that he says stuff like:
"Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they not die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"
@@XIXXXVIVIII I case someone is wondering, someone used dd to read one byte at a time from the kernel message ring... which is incredibly stupid considering that most messages are bigger than one byte long and the involved buffers, specially if you are basically writing all that output into a file.
@@Braiam That's completely true, which is why I wrote "offended by poorly written code". I'm not debating whether or not he was justified in being upset, because I know that I personally would be in that same circumstance; what I am saying is that it's silly for him to have such a mantra of "I like offending people because I think people who get offended should be offended." when he, himself is famous for how easily he takes offense.
let me ignore this offensively smelling pile of shit in the middle of my room instead of addressing and doing something about it. thank u daddy linuz
linus: "it finished in just over three and a half minutes!"
me, compiling firefox on a lenovo x131e: "hahah, it's been eight hours and it's still not done."
As someone who has an x131e as a secondary low-performance system, AAH! Getting TH-cam out of that thing can be a struggle!
i know that feel, bro
Firefox takes a lot longer to compile than the Linux kernel. Firefox will take 15-20 minutes to compile on a modern i7/i9 with lots of RAM and a SSD.
@@0xEmmy try h264ify it worked a treat on my x120e.
/me cries in x120eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ The x140e is my favorite small machine though, it would be so SICK if Lenovo makes an x150e etc.. wtih Zen 2 I'd be all over that...
"The whining or rattling that he associates with lower [quality] fans." -Torvalds
Couldn't agree more Linus
""""The whining or rattling that he associates with lower [quality] fans." -Linus""" - Linus
Linus doesn't want too many fans, doesn't want "pump and bubbling noises" and use a be quiet case... clearly, he is secretly making some dope 8-bits EDM. Can't wait for the album release!
Thumbnail had me hoping for a Linus Torvalds collab :(
Yeah, me too
Me too. Would've been fun to have him backseat-building from home in his bathrobe.
I was not expecting the machine to compile the entire Linux kernel in 3 minutes.
@@dordly yes, you're right, but since Linus would be working on the kernel source code he would have to compile it himself for testing and so on... From my understanding Gentoo is the only distro where you have to compile the kernel.
@@dordly unless you're using Gentoo or LFS it's almost always pre-compiled.
@@dordly It is always pre compiled(except for maybe gentoo), but linus is a developer, so compiling the kernel is something he probably does often for testing.
It was so classy that he compiled the kernel as a benchmark - I was really hoping for that, being a kernel developer myself
@@jamest9128 Nope, there's LFS as well.
Thank you so much for making this one. Linus Torvalds is certainly a Technological Hero, given almost the entire cloud and hence most of the smart products we use runs on Linux. Do post more Developer Builds, for entire range of budgets, that’s something I’m really interested in, as I’m sure many are.
I cannot stretch enough how much I respect, like and appreciate the fact that you learned and kept using the correct way of pronouncing Linus's name, acknowledging that the English/American way is not the only way of pronouncing a word. 👍👏👏👏👏👍
Even though Linus Torvalds himself has said that both are correct.
Another reason he would go with an AMD video card:
Better open source drivers.
That's exactly the reason why I have an RX 480 from some time back. The free nVidia driver (Nouveau) still seems to lock up under some loads leaving the options of a black screen until restart or restart while the AMDGPU driver has no such problem. I don't see myself touching nVidia cards until this gets fixed.
That’s actually exactly why he said FU to NVIDIA 😉
The OSS and even the Mac OS drivers are so good, I wonder what is Radeon Graphics division writing Windows drivers are doing? You guys can't possibly outsource everything you know?
@@Seatux I hear a lot about how AMD drivers are bad on Windows but never any details. So why are they bad?
@@deoxal7947 There was a string of drivers at the beginning of the year that caused problems for a significant (~5%) chunk of people. They acknowledged the problem and fixed most of it by February. They still mention the problem in the known issues, as there are multiple system instabilities that can cause the exact same symptoms, but some people are too lazy to just drop XMP or other overclock for diagnosis.
My favourite example is this guy who complained about AMDs "shit drivers", until he mentioned that he was undervolting his GPU. Dropping the UV made his system stable...
5:50 Oh no! You forgot to put the thick rubber pads on the 2nd fan! It will whine pretty badly at high RPM with the standard thin pads. Get the thick pads on there, Linus! You can find them in the box of the NH-U14S cooler.
zakius - Or you’re just compiling a massive amount of code. Compiling the Linux kernel is one thing; compiling and entire toolchain and linux distro would take significantly longer. It’s still not uncommon in software development for a clean build of a large codebase to be left running overnight (fortunately, incremental builds are often all that’s necessary).
Dang, you beat me to it... I had to get a Noctua 120 for my second fan on my D15 to clear RAM and not have a god awful buz.
You know that they just disassemble the builds after they're done, right? LMG doesn't just have 500 random PC's they've built standing around
That system is probably already disassembled by now.
Cap'n Slipp I just want to add, for a taste, install Gentoo in a VM. EVERYTHING gets built from source during the installation. It takes hours.
As a software developer, my build is surprisingly similar. I have an older 1920X, RX570 (still overkill) and some random 3200 MHz ram that can only run at 2400 MHz for some reason, probably due to a motherboard or bios issue.
took a sec to realize he wasn’t making the pc for himself I thought Linux Linus just told him to use a set of parts
Increasing amount of Linux related content. Good, good.
Says Anthony in an Emporer Palpatine sort of way.....
I'm enjoying the increase in Linux content. I primarily use Ubuntu-based distributions myself, but it's mostly to support them for newcomers who want a minimal-issue transition to Linux from Windows. Ubuntu's strong software ecosystem definitely makes it easier
Really appreciate all the love this channel is giving Linux
Credit to Anthony
Yeah, thank Anthony for that
MarkusTegelane what did he do?
"Linus reads interview while confusing us and himself with Linus and Linus"
I love that you did a developer set up. Amazing as always.
I know Tux is not "conventionally attractive" either as a logo (which he is not) nor as a mascot, but there is just something about that fat slightly anthropomorphic penguin, that grabs at my heart. I have grown to love him ♥🐧♥
He is not modern , he is not stylish but he is ours.
and there are more versions of tux, it can be drawn in different ways
I mean, The penguin's core concept and personality is there and i think it can be redrawn in completely different styles and ways while keeping his "soul"
*"communism intensifies"*
I remember being on an 5 hours airplane ride whic had movie screens in front of every seat and halfway through the linux system crashed and kept restarting and i had to stare at the tux penguin for upwards of 2 hours and by the end i wanted to pummel tux to death
@@EpicBoss- that sounds like someone forgot how to properly set a system up, most things out there like that use linux anyways, but it probably only became evident to you on that occassion
8:21 Holy crap, Linus could be a falsetto singer with that high octave.
That is some impressive range lol
Msybe he had an accident with the "LawnMower 3.0".... Oh No... I feel a sponsor segue coming on....
for the quiet dual fans on U14s, you need to use LNA and the included thicker anti-vibration pads on the pull fan. If not you'll get air turbulence noises.
Love to see more dev focused builds. Could include some software. Maybe even set up a small server on a pi? or a small pc.
As a software engineering student I would love to see more developer inspired builds. Great video.
Same!
Same :)
Yeah great video indeed
@@jcfawerd absolutely.. But it's a more perfect build..
Then theirs me who knows nothing about computers and just watching this for fun!
-drops a box while inspecting linux usb
-"Im the wrong linus"
nope, you are the right linus :)
first
@HoloKola no one cares about your Mac pro
Linus looks exhausted in this video, the man hasn't slept in days
"Linus builds Linus’ new PC!", THE MOST OBVIOUS TITLE EVER!!!
Imagine if he put windows on it lol
Betrayed linux
probably the only time you would of heard from the actual linux linus and would of probably been the same message he gave nvidia.Mind you that said he did say about 20 years ago the second microsoft puts out software for linux I won. Well you can use the linux terminal and kernel on windows now so i guess Linus won.
Once at a Linux conference: "My name is Linus Torvalds and I am your god." The crowd erupted in cheers and applaus.
lmao i only it was real
@@mirsella6204 your English teacher must be proud
@@SillyWilly-px4bu the dude forgot an F, chill out Mr Smartass
BathRo Master Of BathRooms PooPoo PeePee
Hy Huỳnh PeePoo PeePoo
I used to be a silence freak, but now, I like my PC blowing like a turbine.
I have my headphones on, so I can't hear it anyways.
For me I dont care about noise, for the same reason you said. I care about actual cooling wayyyyyy more, because that can actually affect performance and even your parts if it's really bad
The figurine that Tux is based on is from "Wallace & Gromit - The Wrong Trousers" film and the penguin was called "Feathers McGraw" 😁
3:00 "wow that smartphone has thick bezels" 3:05 oh
I thought he had an iPhone 3G in an orange case
When Linus waves around a CPU that costs 4 times more than my entire PC and peripherals
Wellll.... I'm pretty chill because 0x4 is equal to 0 •~•
@@exzyla6548 damn thats deep
Oh... Guess the next obvious question is, 'Which Linus?'
Those parts cost like 50% of an appartment where I live.
Would love to see some developer focused set up videos, maybe a chance to bring in Luke and the float plane crew
I like how the camera's aperture is approaching the fans' RPM. They look like they're spinning a lot less than they actually are.
"He says he is agnostic, with no political affiliation."
It took a full five seconds after that sentence to realise he meant that literally, and it wasn't describing his preference between Intel or AMD.
@Andy Young and you're right, but this ain't the place to talk about it
@@elbeetlebeasto you forgot the successful businessman part of the president, I'm sick of you Americans complaining about trump, in the UK here I would kill to live in the US
@@blakeok952 it's the media, they have gone absolutely stupid. You can't tell what is real anymore, they make up so much crap and, unfortunately, we have so many people who will believe anything they hear. Plus, everyone is suddenly an activist, I mean, wth people, find something productive to do!
Dennis Simpson Trying to right a wrong isn’t productive?
@@christophernugent8492 to a point, yes. But some are going off the rails. Fixing the policing system is awesome, burning down the city to do it, not awesome. Some people are making the entire "activism" community look bad and change may not come as needed because of that. Vote for actual people to run our country, not career politicians. That right there will get change going. Problem is, nobody is willing to do that. Start at the local level, let's get some regular people in offices and start changing things that way.
11:37 ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS makes me laugh. Nvidia has been caught stealing code from AMD and Linux because they are open source, but refuses to work with anyone in regards to their own code.
Maybe to avoid being caught or undermined as a company.
This is assumed or proofed?
Angel Rivera its funny that in doing so it actually blew right back in nvidias face and they still got caught and undermined as a company
Well it's just a fact of life that someone will steal your open source code and profit from it.
@@angelrivera8013 : Consider this. When I was a consultant for AMD, when they were at the top of the heap on performance, etc. they were already working on Open Sourcing a goodly portion of their programming details so they could have an edge in a space that NVidia has issues with (And the cause of the bird flip...which is still pretty much justifiable today...sadly...). In their early days, they had all the details downloadble for the NV1 GPU. Had I been able to lay hands on one of them, I'd have made one of the better supported cards possible for Utah-GLX (Go look it up...first driver framework for OpenGL on Linux...)...but couldn't. Then they closed up tighter than a drum and AMD opened up further as time progressed.
This has little to do with this. To be sure, if the silicon development costs weren't still high, the community would be cranking out their own GPU. As it stands, one of the fastest "soft" cores for an FPGA and one of the fastest in-order superscalar CPUs is all Open Source. VexRiscv. Simply put...your notion's wrong.
Brilliant video, Thank you for taking the time to build this machine. It was great fun!
Me: *Sees Penguin*
Also Me: "The hardest choices require the strongest wills"
08:21 Soprano Linus! I'm a trained singer and vocal coach and that high Eb is high AF for a grown man, even for some ladies!
At the end of the day, Linus is still 12 yrs old, but his outside might not look that young.
thats a very fine soprano sound right there
I can do it and am AMAB
I'm pretty sure that beard is only glued on :)
I thought Linus lost his nuts training to be a eunuch singer!
I used to live in the same neighborhood as Linus Torvald, I used to pump his gas as a teen every week when I worked at the gas station in Lake Oswego, Oregon. He's a really cool guy, and his license plate says king of nerds lol
they pump your gas in Oregon?
Did he have a nice car
@@evlee1295 They HAVE to.
I believe they pump your gas in only two states: Oregon and New Jersey
E Lee yes
One minor thing: for the second A15 fan for the NH-U14S Noctua provides a thicker pad set and it should be used.
Would love to see more developer content. For example what parts are ideal for working with MS Visual Studio and MS SQL?
Hearing Linus tell me that the secondary Linux mascot was supposed to be a Furry with a keyboard is....
... Something
Switching to Unix now. Wanna get as far away from that damn *thing* as possible.
It's not just that it's a furry, it looks *horny*.
It's a damn shame it didn't win. Could you imagine how Linux would be viewed and the community in it lol.
Yeah
Means u got 1000$ pc that is still a dream for Poor's
When Linus shaves his voice will start cracking again when he gets excited
When he murders Francis, you mean.
I just built myself a new pc, saw this video as I was setting up my parts list and went with a be quiet 500tg case, be quiet 750w modular psu and the be quiet dark rock slim cpu cooler, it’s a gorgeously quiet machine.
Thanks heaps for the tips guys
what do you think of cpu air cooling? "not a fan"
almost spit my soup there xd
That was CPU AIO cooling, but the joke works even better then.
I absolutely love this. He sought to make a practical system that fit his needs and specifications, found the best price-to-performance/quality parts, and made it happen. He was really smart about it. Rather than just massively overspending/underspending on everything and only caring about how it looks (as is far too common now)
Torvalds is based all around.
He might be kind of argumentative and overly blunt but one can't deny that he knows what he's doing.
And it's not like Linus T is poor or anything. He has one pretty decent salary I bet. He could easily get the most powerful processor and rig out there, but he prefers to use excellent but decently priced gear.
Except he says he builds a new machine twice a year
Would love to see more of developer-oriented specs. Silent machine is very vital, at least the fan should have a non-distracting noise when it revs up. The worst is using laptop.
Would be great to see a DEV focused build guide for a workstation PC or buying guide for a great laptop. If I could give some direction to go to, focus on the CPU speed and RAM speed as well as capacity. On the topic of capacity, get a lot of fast storage to store the source code, compilers and tools for creating software like cmake, GCC and so on. For the OS pick a Linux distribution with the latest versions of software like Manjaro Linux. Hope it helps. :)
Maybe the first tiling window manager on LTT ?
Weird.. I've tinkered with PC's since I was 5 years old and somewhere during my youth lost interest to computers. Now as a health care professional and almost 20 years later, Linus' videos have made me think of another career with computers..
Ha
Never to late
During my young age (now i'm 31), I was a lot into the PC and modding scene... Since I started to work as an IT/Dev/Admin, I don't care what pc I use if the thing allows me to work flawlessly with my current work load. I still using a FX6300 as my main Dev machine (Vm, DBMS, IDEs) and a i3 notebook as my daily driver for the rest.
Now days I dont give a crap about overclock or having the very last tech.
my dad went from work in healthcare to healthcare IT around 20yrs ago. Transition is smooth as long as you are interested and ready to learn. I´d say go for it! Good luck!
What you're experiencing comes from Linus' from-the-bed hairdo ;)
"The other Linus"
Funnily enough, that is how he's now known on the internet. When you search Linus, the one that comes up is Linus Sebastian, not Torvalds
Amazing that only 2 people in the world are named Linus.
Linus is actually a common name in Sweeden.
@@jochenliebig1562 yes, it is on the Internet.
That is pretty sad people think of him as the other Linus. Torvalds has done much more for the world Linus Sebastien could ever dream of doing.
@@Rabolisk not true, Sweden isn't a country
8:22 “uuuummmm weeeellll” rung in my ears real good!!!
A point to: "a lot of developers can't be bothered build their own pc": I met a few who don't even know how. Mostly, the graduated from other topics like mathematics or engineering and not computer sience, and now little how a computer actually works. I had a coworker, that was terrified opening her laptop to install an SSD, and instead went for the corporate it support, while I just said "where can I get a screw driver in here".
The other good thing about this build was avoiding RGBs.
No
@@kridengaming Yes
What! That at least triples your performence! Why not?
Thank you, I hate RGBs.
Yeah! Totally
A Dev thing (y)
8:21 remember, when you buy a beard the voice is not included
Should have used the D15 - still two fans, so no extra noise.
13:22 do you really need to turn the fan OFF? Just run it as high RPM as it can before it becomes audible (500RPM usually).
15:50 For my development needs it's pretty simple: for compiles you need a CPU with lots of multithreaded performance, over a long time. That's why I've been using a Thinkpad T420 upgraded with a quad core rather than any of the more "modern" 15W U-series CPUs Intel has put out. Their thermal design is generally garbage, and they get power throttled within a few minutes of full load - making my almost 10 year old 45W quad core significantly more powerful after ~10 minutes.
Ryzen 4000 mobile might change that, so I'm pretty excited for those devices to come out.
Are you considering installing an AMD Ryzen CPU on your Thinkpad T420??? That'd be a great video!
I got a macbook pro 13 2017. After 5 minutes of coding, i decided to build a pc to code instead. I didnt know intel and especially, Apple got so bad at supporting devs these days
That's a dual core, I'd have sent it back to my boss and said wtf.
Currently running a 10900K + 32GB@3200MHz, GPU is a crappy 1030 with 3xDP, just need it to drive screens.
Went from a crappy 4770 (4C/8T, 3.4GHz), my stuff compiles a bit over twice as fast, which is nice, and it probably paid itself off within a month or two based on the time difference, should have convinced work to upgrade earlier. Wanted work to get a 3900X instead, but couldn't source enough of them in one go and they didn't want to end up with two different hardware configurations to support.
Still strange for Linus not to have gone 2x1TB SSD in Raid 1 considering how much he's spending, personally I keep a VM copy of my environment as a back-up so I can be up and running in the time it takes to copy and expand.
Nguyễn Hưng my 15 mbp, did just fine up until recently. I upgraded to an iMac,and I’m in heaven. Ymmv
If you get a gaming pc, you can get a 4800H Ryzen based laptop right now. I did that as a compromise because I didn't want to wait. I would have rather gone with a pure APU Ryzen because it would save some power and I don't need super high display performance.
The needs of developers:
- fastest nvme ssd
- highest cpu core count
- silence
- stability
Coming from a developer. LT nailed it with this one.
Why do you care so much about silence? Couldn't you just use a headset to listen to things?
@@TheGauges420 If you do serios development, you need to focus. Listening to sound or so is only distracting.
@@TheGauges420 I suppose that if there are many people in the office, all with machines that sound like mini jet-engines, the noise can become a problem.
I mean, there are rules about how high the noise level can be in a workspace before hearing protection become mandatory.
Even if the noise level doesn't become that high, eventually the drone of the machines will make it hard to concentrate.
LT is also huge CPU geek, knowing their workings really well and have lately been quite vocal ( [ surprised pikachu face ] ) about how Intel's not having their shit together.
I've got the same case and storage for my development PC but with a Dark Rock 4 Pro cooling a 3700X, and 32GB of 3600mhz RAM.
there are all sorts of developers out there. maybe a video on workspace setup like multi monitor configs, orientation, chairs, desks and monitor stands to support all that
Does that kernel compilation includes all kernel modules? If it does then this setup is really a beast :o
Thought this was going to include Linus Torvalds in the video from the thumbnail!
He doesn't like loud computers, and fancy ones
Looks like you got click baited!
oh hell no there is no way in hell Linus Torvald would appear on a gaming focused show and am sure linus wouldn't appreciate some of Linux linus more sally outburts when he famously called the ubuntu creators a bunch of retards at ubuntu own press event.
8:21 Linus Opera Tips
Hilarious 😂 and true
I thought that was someone in my house lol 😂
That right there is a concert G#5. A formidably high note for a countertenor.
In future CPU comparisons, please include compilation times too. Either Linux kernel or Firefox compilation
8:21 - I honestly tripped out at this part
The last time I was this early, Linus hadnt yet dropped an AMD prototype chip.
RITA , I LOVE SЕХ , WANT SЕХ !!! OPEN MY CANAL !!! Why are you responding with random emojis? Are you a bot?? If you are go back to instragram.
@@toasty8547 More likely a adult website or a place meant for adults
@@toasty8547 Wait who was this in response to?
8:21
Didn't know his voice could go that high lol
Why does this feel like a bedtime story my dad would tell me about some legend that once lived in the mountains.
Another pro to going double what you need on your PSU is that power supplies tend to be most efficient at around 50% use which means that at max use your PSU will be running at its most efficient
That penguin looks picture looks like it was made by the guys behind wallace and gromit
2:32
hey lol that's my art!! thx for the little feature hahahaha
Which one, left or right?
R Forde the tweet literally says the original is on the right
@@R_Forde the left! the original design is from the late 90's lol
@@lilacswimmer Lol, stinks that we didn't get a fox for the Linux mascot. Then again, Tux was a good choice too.
@ジョージ様 There was no need for that...
Whenever i used Noctua in push/pull the pull fan always had some weird whine to it, even tried the black version of their fans. Went back to a single fan.
Yeah, I agree with Torvald's cooling opinion. I've not seen any reason to go water-cooled over air. All you're doing is moving the heat to a different part of the system to be air cooled, so why bother with it at all? Just get more airflow within the case. That's why I got the big ol' ATX and put 120mm fans in it. Can't hear them one bit, but they move so much air I'm looking at 50-60c under load.
Roses are red
Screens give off light
When linus says "speaking of"
I double tap right
Edit: holy linus this is noice
I think I love you
He is the chosen one, he will bring balance to the force
Is it possible to learn this power?
Thank YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
He's too dangerous to be kept alive