@@zenabompegrespectfully, Marss isn't on their level in their respective games and they have different circumstances as to why they don't enter. Only similarity is that they don't enter much.
In game 4 it genuinely looked like he had the matchup solved: play aggro, stop Steve from getting his resources and defend the crafting bench, but once he gets his tools, camp him out and let him mine as much as he wants, using flip-jump to play keep-away and racking up damage with Zair. I mean, if he was a worse player he'd still get hit by iron moves, which is why Steve is Steve, but he's Marss. Too bad the Strat didn't work as well on Smashville, even tho he won anyway, but game 4 on Kalos was a fuckin anime checkmate
The fact that marss normally plays making the oponent respect him at all times by doing random things like walking into ftilt or random dairs in disadvantage and completely changed his playstyle so he didn't get hit by steve bs all the time is crazy. Also I was surprised that between games he didn't look drained at all, he looked so calm and it is a thing to admire. Between his level of fundamentals and insane mentality we can say this is the definition of being a profesional, congratulations Marss!
Marss literally saying in a recent video "sometimes players play too fast. Sometimes it's just good to walk or stand there, wait for your opponent to do something, and punish." He played so patiently and calculated. Content creator go brrrr
When Marss comes out of Content Creator mode watching him is as entertaining as watching Mang0 on his A game with falco. Dude's maneuverability with ZSS is incredible
Same, he won with ZSS. Against all odds, Marss is SOOO much better than Onin, he needs to win 3 neutral and Onin only 1 with Steve to make a % differential.
@@CryoKonki could see a world where ZSS zairs and then camps for 8 minutes and its -1 for Steve, if thats the strategy. But honestly think its losing for ZSS, Marss still had to do a lot of out playing to win this set
ofc she wan win this she hard beats steve. Shes way faster and can rush him down, can savely destroy the blocks or jump over, steve cant catch her at all with her flip jump and she completely outranges him. Onin played amazingly for making it as close as it was not Marss. Marss took until game 3 to realize what his gameplan should be and then forgot it again in game 4
@@thecapitalisticdictator2256 I feel like the problem is that when it comes to walls she can't break them down very well in a non-committal way, so Steve ends up having a ton of resources and ZSS just has to play smash like a bullet hell where if she gets hit, she takes 50
Okay, this set is now up there on one of the best sets of Ultimate I've ever watched. Marss is always a treat to watch, and Onin's Steve answers back. The commentators did an amazing job, and it was just overall really hype. GG's all around
spoiler for the end of the game marss' zss is a fkn art form at this point, you don't see people challenging steve minecart with a back air as precise as Zero suit's, his movement and mixups made it possible to not only keep up with Onin's steve, but to actually put them on their back foot. Great game to both players
For real, there’s actually a lot of truth to marss saying ZSS sucks, she’s just so hard to play and requires such precision, but this man still makes it work.
Marss needed to play 2x better than Onin to make up for all the BS minecarts, anvils and up airs. Marss is just so much better than Onin to even win with ZSS against Steve.
@@striker3190not only does she jump so high most of zss attacks only are out for a a frame or 2 at most where mario bair lingers for like 10 frames zss bair is out for 2
It really tells you something that at this stage in Ultimate's lifespan, I actively don't even think there's a chance of an outcome like this happening lmao
My God this was a beautiful set. Steve is the one that is usually recognized as needing to be chased, but Marss turned that on its head here. He goaded Onin into so many bad situations and the adaptation was nuts.
@@jaydenhohman2590smash is a sport, sports are competitive. Stop acting like it's unique to smash. Your post feels like an ego stroke about your motals or something. Humans do this all the time in competitive environments, it's normal behavior.
@@jaydenhohman2590if people dont like something they're going to tell you they don't like it or hate it for (insert reasons) people hate LeBron James for their own reasons, whether that's him being a pussy on the court with penalties or his ego etc..and most smash players hate Steve because hes boring as fuck to watch and cringe to play against..simple.
What an amazing set! Omfg, damn near had a heart attack! That said, I feel that a good chunk of that hype came from this rapid-fire commentary! I felt like a kid watching WWE all over again
@@ProbablyAnEarthbender That doesn't really matter when he's still getting better results than most other Steve mains consistently. You don't get this good by being carried.
@@Rubyfire41 *Watches Onin swing at nothing for 7 seconds in match and then go hide behind blocks to mine* *Never even hears about Onin placing with any other character* Yeah, okay
It's a good day when a Steve loses. Character should never have been added in. No animosity towards anyone who uses him, just hate the character and what he's done to the game.
This is true, and Steve is better than ZSS. But neutral is definitely better for Marss here. ZSS movement let's you set up interactions to be favorable for you most of the time - if you're good enough
@@DGSnowolf if you actually believe that you’re coping 💀 steve doesn’t have a single -2 except maybe sonic, maybe cloud. zss gets hit by every steve move by accident and dies at like 60%
DEFINITELY sonic and cloud. What would make you think theyre not -2. Yes Steve is overtuned yes Steve has walls which is busted, but you guys act like the char can do anything. He cant. He doesnt have range, he doesnt have speed, and he cant jump high. Very clear weaknesses. Cloud boxes him out with his range and out of shield game and Sonic hopelessly outruns Steve and is too fast for Steve to hit, his movement is also invulnerable most of the time. Zss does both, she outspeeds, outmaneuvrs and outranges. Id say the mu is worse than cloud and sonic but atleast equally as bad.@@coolshirtkid
I haven't played smash since the Terry DLC but I am just amazed with how Steve can get away with pretty much anything. Build a wall, mine, attack in the direction of your opponent, repeat.
MARSSS HELL YEAH, THIS FELT LIKE GRAND FINALS. WHAT A GAME. MARSS IS SO MUCH BETTER LOL. MARSS PLAYED OUT OF HIS MIND. MARSS NEEDS TO WIN ALL NEUTRAL, IF HE TRADES HE GETS 30% DAMAGE AND STEVE ONLY 10% Crazy game, big big big respect to Marss.
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I don’t think I’m in the right mindset to see any Steve’s winning ANY sets at all. Lez go MARS u got this🫡
Love how Marss enters like two tournaments a year and beats the defending champion of smashcon
Real
Just content creator things
He’s like the plup and wizzy of ultimate
@@zenabompegrespectfully, Marss isn't on their level in their respective games and they have different circumstances as to why they don't enter.
Only similarity is that they don't enter much.
@@oughtopilot but still, they have the similarity that they all used to go a lot, they stopped attending too much, but still kick ass
Marss' play here was utterly genius. So patient, so calculated, using Steve's strengths against him
So true, I can hear him saying in his head every time steve walls to mine “guess what buddy, YOU have to jump over this wall too hee hee”
@@jackcampbell2021 Exactly. Let him mine, you have the lead. Onin's offense is basically just spamming Fair and Bair, so exploit it
In other words, he dropped his aggressive playstyle for this set in order to actually play the matchup correctly.
Steves biggest strength is that you don't need to be a good player to win with him. Marss really took advantage of the skill gap.
In game 4 it genuinely looked like he had the matchup solved: play aggro, stop Steve from getting his resources and defend the crafting bench, but once he gets his tools, camp him out and let him mine as much as he wants, using flip-jump to play keep-away and racking up damage with Zair. I mean, if he was a worse player he'd still get hit by iron moves, which is why Steve is Steve, but he's Marss.
Too bad the Strat didn't work as well on Smashville, even tho he won anyway, but game 4 on Kalos was a fuckin anime checkmate
The fact that some of these sets are only Top 128 shows how stacked this tournament is
if only guys like leo and kameme were here
@@JColeGlazer754wait Leo’s not here?
@@a5tr4lyeah hes not here cuz he said he was taking a break from tourneys for a while
@@JColeGlazer754or Glutonny and Maister
leo isn't top 3 anymore@@JColeGlazer754
This is the greatest game 5 set of this tournament already.
You must have missed Aaron vs Sparg0 then
@@hl1272 too bad it wasn't streamed, but Marss is the goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@政府の犬-v5s Aaron won spargo is out at 49th I think
@@Tiggy227EE streamed it
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The fact that marss normally plays making the oponent respect him at all times by doing random things like walking into ftilt or random dairs in disadvantage and completely changed his playstyle so he didn't get hit by steve bs all the time is crazy. Also I was surprised that between games he didn't look drained at all, he looked so calm and it is a thing to admire. Between his level of fundamentals and insane mentality we can say this is the definition of being a profesional, congratulations Marss!
Yeah he's a professional. Professional CONTENT CREATOR. Nah jk this was hype as fuck and Marss outplayed Onin here in an amazing way
I love the music counterpick from Marss. More people need to do that
Bro I actually jumped out of my chair what a dub. Let's go Mars
You and me both my guy
Marss hype combined with fighting against the most boring character ever. Nobody was cheering for one trick pony Onin
a content creator for some a hero for many.
Surely this is enough for the LumiRank to rank Marss as 33rd.
WHO? lol
Marss was playing so much safer than he usually does, goes to show how much he wanted this set
Marss literally saying in a recent video "sometimes players play too fast. Sometimes it's just good to walk or stand there, wait for your opponent to do something, and punish." He played so patiently and calculated. Content creator go brrrr
When Marss comes out of Content Creator mode watching him is as entertaining as watching Mang0 on his A game with falco. Dude's maneuverability with ZSS is incredible
easily the most fun ult player to watch. no one else plays like him
@@dean988ong, he's the only one i still watch regularly, and a lil Pnut
LETS GO MARSSSSS💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I was so nervous watching it lolll great clutch
Same, he won with ZSS. Against all odds, Marss is SOOO much better than Onin, he needs to win 3 neutral and Onin only 1 with Steve to make a % differential.
@@Scythra Exactly bro. Now that Sparg0 is out at 49th, we need a new Steve (and Acola) killer
@@jannomeeuwessen4886acola has to play big d tomorrow who beat him at summit, so there’s a chance
@@ONLY_RR7 true true
@ONLY_RR7 Acola destroyed him on the run back so I'm not sure how good those chances will be lol
I popped off when Marss won. Startled the dog lol. Hope he has a monster Sunday.
You can tell marss 100% came into this set with a very strong game plan.
Let's go Marss! Firstly for winning the set, and second proving that zss can win this match up.
I was trying to think, is Steve a bad matchup for ZSS? Seems like -1 for ZSS to me
acola called it Steve’s worst matchup at the gimvitational, but that was a while ago. Usually now I hear it as even or slight ZSS advantage
@@CryoKonki could see a world where ZSS zairs and then camps for 8 minutes and its -1 for Steve, if thats the strategy. But honestly think its losing for ZSS, Marss still had to do a lot of out playing to win this set
ofc she wan win this she hard beats steve. Shes way faster and can rush him down, can savely destroy the blocks or jump over, steve cant catch her at all with her flip jump and she completely outranges him. Onin played amazingly for making it as close as it was not Marss. Marss took until game 3 to realize what his gameplan should be and then forgot it again in game 4
@@thecapitalisticdictator2256 I feel like the problem is that when it comes to walls she can't break them down very well in a non-committal way, so Steve ends up having a ton of resources and ZSS just has to play smash like a bullet hell where if she gets hit, she takes 50
When he just stood there and then hit that back air when steve tried to jump over the wall. He knew. Absolutely killer.
15:42
Honestly marss played so well the sf6 must be paying off
Street Fighter teaches spacing
love seeing josh at 24:50 walk up to marss glad former pandas there to support each other
Okay, this set is now up there on one of the best sets of Ultimate I've ever watched. Marss is always a treat to watch, and Onin's Steve answers back. The commentators did an amazing job, and it was just overall really hype. GG's all around
I think the ‘xan’ player tag is a reference to The effect watching Steves play has on audiences
As if Marss winning wasn’t hype enough, now we get Light vs Marss in top 32 tomorrow!
Its a good weekend for Ultimate!
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This will go down as one of the best tournaments of the year it just HAS to
OH HECK YEAH!
spoiler for the end of the game
marss' zss is a fkn art form at this point, you don't see people challenging steve minecart with a back air as precise as Zero suit's, his movement and mixups made it possible to not only keep up with Onin's steve, but to actually put them on their back foot. Great game to both players
For real, there’s actually a lot of truth to marss saying ZSS sucks, she’s just so hard to play and requires such precision, but this man still makes it work.
Marss needed to play 2x better than Onin to make up for all the BS minecarts, anvils and up airs. Marss is just so much better than Onin to even win with ZSS against Steve.
zs back air isnt even an easy move to hit. she jumps so high that it’s hard to place. amazing stuff all around
@@striker3190not only does she jump so high most of zss attacks only are out for a a frame or 2 at most where mario bair lingers for like 10 frames zss bair is out for 2
fr. onin was spamming anvil and minecarts the whole set but marss adapted so well
Better player alert
He won just by playing neutch
just the precision on marss’ gameplay is insane… catching steve out of up b or minecraft or from a falling anvil with back air or down air is insane
It really tells you something that at this stage in Ultimate's lifespan, I actively don't even think there's a chance of an outcome like this happening lmao
My God this was a beautiful set. Steve is the one that is usually recognized as needing to be chased, but Marss turned that on its head here. He goaded Onin into so many bad situations and the adaptation was nuts.
That's our content creator.
Marss goes soooo stupid good when he plays this game, GOATed
idk if its just me or did onin kinda have a glow up? his haircut rly suits him i think
Facts
Just by movement and Playstyle alone, Marss really showed he is the better player here
I love these long games where there is ALWAYS something happening.
holy shiiiiit what an ending, that one second pause when they clash and you don't know who's gonna die is INSANE
Second to last stock was the cleanest ledge jump read I’ve seen in my life
That was just... WOW! Nail biter of a set.
Even though I think Steve is overtuned, I’m glad to see the player base calm down as more and more people start to learn the matchup
Agreed, I'm also happy to see Onin come back, especially after what happened with him
Had a feeling people would eventually chill out over him
@@justamugofcocoand they aren't rusty even after the break, taking marss to game five is no small feat
@@eret3 when you play the best character in the game by a wide margin it’s really not that hard
@@justamugofcocoWhat happened to him?
マーズ本当にかっこええ
ずっと好きな選手
Marss title of "teenager defeater" is still true after all these years
Marss was fighting flawlessly in that fourth match. Good stuff all around from both players.
Marss is such a cool and collected player I will ALWAYS root for the zss goat
LMAO you can hear Marss mash at 16:00
LETS GOOOOO MARSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Onin fought so well, Marss adapted extremely fast. What an awesome set!
This was a huge W for marss, I’m so happy for him
I felt that pop off in my soul. Such a good set
I was flinching so hard that last game! LETS GOOOOO MARSS!
Good too see that onin has returned to competition.
holy crap that last game was intense. all down to a single clash hit. Nice.
marss could definitely be top 10 if he wanted to, but its clear he enjoys content creation way more than competing which is respectable.
Anyone else kinda dislike how it doesn’t say winners or losers side?
THATS MY CONTENT CREATOR 💪💪
Onin’s defeat was quite something
Sure was, a victory for everyone who thinks Steve is boring as fuck to watch and play against. Marss my goat.
@@G1gaB0mByup, fuck that character. Let’s go Marss!
@@G1gaB0mBYou smash players just love hating everything huh? Why not just relax every once and a while, no need to be so hateful all the time
@@jaydenhohman2590smash is a sport, sports are competitive. Stop acting like it's unique to smash. Your post feels like an ego stroke about your motals or something. Humans do this all the time in competitive environments, it's normal behavior.
@@jaydenhohman2590if people dont like something they're going to tell you they don't like it or hate it for (insert reasons) people hate LeBron James for their own reasons, whether that's him being a pussy on the court with penalties or his ego etc..and most smash players hate Steve because hes boring as fuck to watch and cringe to play against..simple.
What an amazing set! Omfg, damn near had a heart attack! That said, I feel that a good chunk of that hype came from this rapid-fire commentary! I felt like a kid watching WWE all over again
やっぱりマーズ超カッコいいわ
its like poetry, it rhymes
That was an AMAZING set. Let’s go Marss!
24:11 I’d lose 100 times out of 100. Absolutely phenomenal set
history repeats
THE ULT GOAT. FOREVER. CONTENT CREATION CANT HOLD HIM BACK
the light set tomorrow is gonna be insane
WE LOVE MARSS
Thats what you get for being a Steve main! Great job Marss!
One of the best Marrs pop offs
marss is actually really good, he just knows his character cant compete at the level he wants her to
I'm so glad that Onin is back
Marss took notes from that ChatGPT session where it told him to F-smash more 😆
Marss is so good. Watching him win will never get old.
The most hyped I’ve ever been watching a 5 game set with Steve
Marss and mkleo are the only reason why I keep watching smash ultimate tournaments. Great job man 👏🏽
Onin with the crisp cut. Lost some weight too I think.
Damn I knew some crazy shit was about to happen when this was in my recommended
LET'S GO MARSS
My goodness!! Marss back baby! The thrill like old time!
He learned the Steve matchup it's obvious and it's dope how he moves!
Props to Onin. Played great but Marss was just "that guy" this set. Ggs to both.
Makes me sad how much people hate onin. He's put so much time into this game just for people to hate him. Shits crazy
@@jaydenhohman2590I agree, he loves this stuff and people hating for no reason are such downers!
@@jaydenhohman2590 Maybe it's because he's carried by Steve? When has he gotten results like this in the past without the character?
@@ProbablyAnEarthbender That doesn't really matter when he's still getting better results than most other Steve mains consistently. You don't get this good by being carried.
@@Rubyfire41 *Watches Onin swing at nothing for 7 seconds in match and then go hide behind blocks to mine*
*Never even hears about Onin placing with any other character*
Yeah, okay
Holy shit edge of my seat the entire time and especially on game 5.
It's a good day when a Steve loses. Character should never have been added in.
No animosity towards anyone who uses him, just hate the character and what he's done to the game.
New England baby! Let's go Marss!
That game 2 was just beautiful 😮
Wow man what a game and what an ending!!
Mars had to win 15 to 1 interactions to even come close to winning. Steve is so OP.
This is true, and Steve is better than ZSS. But neutral is definitely better for Marss here. ZSS movement let's you set up interactions to be favorable for you most of the time - if you're good enough
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO greatest upset of all fucking time
ZSS is +2 against steve and onin hasnt been at tourneys for a while, not really an upset
@@DGSnowolf if you actually believe that you’re coping 💀 steve doesn’t have a single -2 except maybe sonic, maybe cloud. zss gets hit by every steve move by accident and dies at like 60%
Dude, Spargo lost to the second best Corrin player in Japan in round one of top 128, that's definitively a bigger upset than this.
DEFINITELY sonic and cloud. What would make you think theyre not -2. Yes Steve is overtuned yes Steve has walls which is busted, but you guys act like the char can do anything. He cant. He doesnt have range, he doesnt have speed, and he cant jump high. Very clear weaknesses. Cloud boxes him out with his range and out of shield game and Sonic hopelessly outruns Steve and is too fast for Steve to hit, his movement is also invulnerable most of the time. Zss does both, she outspeeds, outmaneuvrs and outranges. Id say the mu is worse than cloud and sonic but atleast equally as bad.@@coolshirtkid
@@coolshirtkidit's no use bro he is a delusional steve main 💀💀💀
Minecart -> Anvil -> Bair -> Fair, repeat x 9999.
Congrats you're now a " smash prodigy".
Glad to see Onin competing again. This was a really hype set to watch. Great job to both players giving their all!!! 👍
Don't you love it when the good guys win?
great paly from both holy
Commentators trying desperately to make it sound like onin isn't just mashing every option in every situation
Even worse when you see that Marss had to respect all the hit boxes, meanwhile steve getting hit by 3 bairs in a row and not dying
Marssお前、やっぱかっけぇよ
imagine considering yourself a serious fighting game player and your biggest demon is Minecraft Steve
I can hear Marss during the third game, "I'll play elite zss idc'
I haven't played smash since the Terry DLC but I am just amazed with how Steve can get away with pretty much anything. Build a wall, mine, attack in the direction of your opponent, repeat.
Watching Steve makes me want to walk on legos
With Samus's heels
We love a marss pop off
4:58 that double nair is so difficult post nerfs and he still got a combo after. kinda crazy
Glad to see Marss clutch this out!!
This was the marss pop off we didn't know we needed
The pop off was noice
Helll no that’s a winning matchup for Steve. Marss BARELY escaped the Steve death zone time and time again. Absolute skill diff here. Earned this W.
14:04 Nah I don't think it's Onin pushing the buttons too much but definitely marss weaving around so damn well
MARSSS HELL YEAH, THIS FELT LIKE GRAND FINALS. WHAT A GAME.
MARSS IS SO MUCH BETTER LOL.
MARSS PLAYED OUT OF HIS MIND.
MARSS NEEDS TO WIN ALL NEUTRAL, IF HE TRADES HE GETS 30% DAMAGE AND STEVE ONLY 10%
Crazy game, big big big respect to Marss.