A lifeline? C'mon now, Hatteberg made very good money prior to this moment, not to mention have been to college. This is Hollywood pulling heartstrings.
First Base is an underrated and undervalued position. You have a job on every single play, and if you mess up that job, the results are often disastrous.
@@DudeLongcouch As long as you can catch a line drive to you on first(which are not that often) and be able to throw to third on occasion, you are good.
This is such a well-constructed little scene: the photos, harking back to a happier time when he could play; the closeup of Scott's despondent face; his wife doing bills at the table, distant and confined in the frame; the fireworks on TV indicating the holiday season, a time of miracles; then Wash's quip about getting one of the fans to play that earns that delayed snort from Billy, "Good one!"; and then that hug at the end - salvation for the family. Masterful, IMO.
Yeah....she looked like she was sitting on a pin cushion, seeing her hubby unemployed, unwanted. Then total relief and glas as he got a job with the A's.
I love that Christ Pratt, the goofball Andy from Parks & Rec turned into this incredible actor. His facial expressions convey everything in this scene. A masterclass of hopelessness, then confusion, then apprehension, then honesty ("I can't throw"), then finally hope. So well done.
I love how Brent Jennings is in a scene with Brad Pitt and Chris Pratt, has only four short lines, and totally steals the scene (even with his eyebrow raise after Billy says he wants Scott to play first base).
@@glennkurtzrock I think it's just a personality quirk. They kinda need Scott too. They're looking for players who are undervalued. There aren't an infinite number of those guys.
It says to me “I’m here to do business and make an offer. I’ve made the offer, now im going.” Same thing as how he dismissively says “Yeah, a daughter” as he pulls out the contract. He’s not there to talk about families. It’s a fantastic performance from Pitt in this movie.
@@StoicTheGeek exactly. It's the way he described himself of how he separate people from business. This was a great example of him being/seaming like an asshole. But keeping it business. He character can't have it both ways. A little true in real life as well. As a super, I have to be mindful of relationships. You can find friends and good people everywhere. It's best to not make them your workers. Makes it tough on you and the employee when moves need to be made.
What makes a great negotiator it's knowing all the elements of your desired outcome. It's much easier to make someone think it's their idea then to convince them that your idea is the correct one. And that's only a particle in comparison to how a master manipulator has already crossed the finish line
Who would've thought that them taking a chance on him would revitalize his career. His career was basically over due to his elbow being jacked, if I remember correctly he ended up playing another 5-7 seasons at first base.
I watch this movie every few months. So many great scenes like this make me feel good. It shows that a well led team is much more effective than just the sum of the individuals within it.
This scene has so much great nuance. I love the little "well" from Scott when Billy is saying "You've thrown your last ball from behind homeplate...is what I would say". Scott KNOWS he can't make that throw, but there is that little part of him as a professional athlete that just WILL NOT allow himself to completely give up. It's in his DNA, he won't quit even though he understands logically he can't do it anymore with his elbow. It's a great moment that conveys his character and it's just a fraction of a second.
I can´t agree more. Him sitting in front of the television, feeling hopeless, his wife doing the finances and feeling pity for her husband. Then, salvations knocks on your door.
Billy is the first to note the girls entrance, doesn't engage in the personal line of conversation when Scott asks if he has kids, eats from the tray Scott's wife brought in, and jokes around with his partner. Absolute class acting
This is a good movie because the stakes were low, I mean who gives a damn about an MLB championship, but because of the writing, director, and acting it made the stakes feel world changing. We need more of these types of movies right now.
I think people too often overlook the stress and devastation men fear/feel when they cant provide for their family. Men carry that around every day… even when things are fine. Scenes like this…. Similar to Cinderella Man… really hammer home the point: We’d rather die than fail.
Sadly this never happened but as many have said this is such a powerful scene. Here we have Scott Hatteberg who was traded from Boston to Colorado then the Rockies cut him. So he's on his couch as his wife is paying the bills. Scott is now unemployed and while he's not destitute at this point(he was paid $1,050,000 by Boston in 2001) he needs to figure out what to do with his life. He knows he can't be a catcher anymore. Then here comes Billy Beane and Ron Washington knocking on his door and they end up offering him $900,000 to play 1st base for the A's. A lifeline. Thanks to the cheapness of the A's which forced Beane to find a place for him and teach him a new position he ends up playing for another 7 seasons but as I said according to Hatteberg himself this scene never happened.
It just boggles me how he seems so reticent about playing first base. Sure, he’s never done it before, but no other club is asking for his services and with the contract, the A’s are paying him several hundred thousand dollars to learn. Then, he’s got a young daughter, a wife and bills to pay… just say “yes.”
He’s lost his confidence and I don’t think his conscience can handle “conning” the A’s and accepting the contact if they don’t know he’s not as good anymore. Billy and the A’s already know that of course but Scott needed the push.
They wanted him for OBP but he couldnt play catcher anymore because his arm was shot for throwing. So he went to first base because that usually doesnt require hard throws
@@KiltBill2they’re looking for incredibly cheap, under the radar and flexible options to fill their roster. Hatteberg is a player who had a high OBP, THAT is the metric they’re wanting. Yes, he’s a catcher by trade, but his arm is shot. Their only chance is to retrain him. Like the other guy said - it’s a ‘better’ role for him hopefully. They don’t ‘know’, but they’re gambling with the hire is the simple answer to your question - with some layer of data. He has some skills needed, but they have to develop him into it. They can’t afford anyone else top level to play natural first base - or any option they COULD afford will be average anyway or won’t have a high OBP.
Ok. This irks me, but where did Scott Hatteberg live during this moment. Was it around Oakland or did Brad Pitt fly across the country for this? It is a bs question, but it still works me.
On the TV you’ll see he was watching news from K5 which is King 5 based in Seattle. That is roughly a 2 hour flight from Oakland to Seattle. East turn and burn flight. Chris Pratt is also a Native to WA state so go hawks
Hatteberg was living in Phoenix at the time, so it would have been a couple of hours flight (usually these guys have access to a corporate jet so no big deal.)
He's sad because he was thinking his career was over and didn't know what else he would be doing with his life at that moment. Monetarily, he would have been fine.
His wife was sitting in the background, fretting over a pile of paperwork on the dining room table...what do you want to bet that those were bills? P.S. You can live in a mansion, right up until it is seized for foreclosure...
Acting like the A's had nobody. They were still loaded with stars after giambi left. It wasn't fuckin hatter erg or Bradford that won all them games. Just stop
@pomerlain8924 zito 23-5cy young. Hudson 18-9, Mulder 19 wins. Chavez gold glove. Tejada .308, 38hr 204hits, 131rbi al MVP. But yeah it was hatterberg justice n frickin Bradford that won it all for them.
This is a good movie because the stakes were low, I mean who gives a damn about an MLB championship, but because of the writing, director, and acting it made the stakes feel world changing. We need more of these types of movies right now.
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That hug at the end always gets to me. A family being given a lifeline. Who'd have thought his greatest baseball career moment was still ahead of him?
Yup: same.
Me too. She's doing bills on the table, and this great opportunity unveils itself. Love it.
…and at Christmas too
And it appears that he and the same lady and their three daughters are doing just fine in Gig Harbor, Washington.
A lifeline? C'mon now, Hatteberg made very good money prior to this moment, not to mention have been to college. This is Hollywood pulling heartstrings.
"It's not that hard Scott, tell him Wash"
"It's incredibly hard"
brilliant
... As all things worth doing are. No beats missed!
First Base is an underrated and undervalued position. You have a job on every single play, and if you mess up that job, the results are often disastrous.
@@DudeLongcouch As long as you can catch a line drive to you on first(which are not that often) and be able to throw to third on occasion, you are good.
@@spartanx169x That's extremely reductive and not at all true, but go off chief.
@ Alright tell me how it is.
"What about the fans?"
"Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them."
😂😂😂
When he pops out with, "It's incredibly hard," I spit out my drink.
The fact that the dialogue has no punchy timing and they get cut off and they have to pick back up makes this so good
might have been off script, brad pitt's reaction was too genuine...
@@BG-mw5pt It was. That was an ad-lib, and Pitt is such a pro he just rolled with it, gave a natural reaction, and finished the scene.
This is such a well-constructed little scene: the photos, harking back to a happier time when he could play; the closeup of Scott's despondent face; his wife doing bills at the table, distant and confined in the frame; the fireworks on TV indicating the holiday season, a time of miracles; then Wash's quip about getting one of the fans to play that earns that delayed snort from Billy, "Good one!"; and then that hug at the end - salvation for the family. Masterful, IMO.
And just a few months later, he turned on that 0-1 fastball and drove it straight into deep-right legendary status.
Wife had zero spoken lines and we still get the hardship, the affection, and the relief.
Yeah....she looked like she was sitting on a pin cushion, seeing her hubby unemployed, unwanted. Then total relief and glas as he got a job with the A's.
The actress playing his wife said so much without saying a single word.
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But she didn't say "a single word" though
I love that Christ Pratt, the goofball Andy from Parks & Rec turned into this incredible actor. His facial expressions convey everything in this scene. A masterclass of hopelessness, then confusion, then apprehension, then honesty ("I can't throw"), then finally hope. So well done.
That relief hug says it all. Pratt nailed that scene.
Married life is great when you get to share victories like that.
I’m loving the resurgence of Moneyball clips. This film is an underrated gem.
TH-cam algorithm is WAY too focused lately. It seems to only feed you things that are nearly identical to what you've already watched.
RIP Oakland A's
It's a process
I love how Brent Jennings is in a scene with Brad Pitt and Chris Pratt, has only four short lines, and totally steals the scene (even with his eyebrow raise after Billy says he wants Scott to play first base).
The whole, " here's a copy of the contract, I sent a copy over towards your agent ,discus it with your wife, give me a call" is just so nonchalant.
He knows Scott needs them a hell of a lot more than they need him, so he's not too worried one way or the other.
@@glennkurtzrock I think it's just a personality quirk. They kinda need Scott too. They're looking for players who are undervalued. There aren't an infinite number of those guys.
It says to me “I’m here to do business and make an offer. I’ve made the offer, now im going.” Same thing as how he dismissively says “Yeah, a daughter” as he pulls out the contract. He’s not there to talk about families. It’s a fantastic performance from Pitt in this movie.
@@StoicTheGeek
exactly. It's the way he described himself of how he separate people from business. This was a great example of him being/seaming like an asshole. But keeping it business. He character can't have it both ways. A little true in real life as well. As a super, I have to be mindful of relationships. You can find friends and good people everywhere. It's best to not make them your workers. Makes it tough on you and the employee when moves need to be made.
What makes a great negotiator it's knowing all the elements of your desired outcome. It's much easier to make someone think it's their idea then to convince them that your idea is the correct one. And that's only a particle in comparison to how a master manipulator has already crossed the finish line
Who would've thought that them taking a chance on him would revitalize his career. His career was basically over due to his elbow being jacked, if I remember correctly he ended up playing another 5-7 seasons at first base.
I watch this movie every few months. So many great scenes like this make me feel good. It shows that a well led team is much more effective than just the sum of the individuals within it.
‘It’s not that hard, Scott. Tell him, Wash.’
“It’s incredibly hard.”
Classic
This scene has so much great nuance. I love the little "well" from Scott when Billy is saying "You've thrown your last ball from behind homeplate...is what I would say". Scott KNOWS he can't make that throw, but there is that little part of him as a professional athlete that just WILL NOT allow himself to completely give up. It's in his DNA, he won't quit even though he understands logically he can't do it anymore with his elbow. It's a great moment that conveys his character and it's just a fraction of a second.
That is the huge of a very grateful man
I love that scene. And when Hatteberg hits the homerun. Brilliant film.
I've watched this scene 20 or 30 times and it always brings a tear to my eye. Beautiful. So beautiful.
Love that hug at the end. Also the BLAST of guitar music because I had my volume turned all the way up. Thanks!
The set-up of this scene is well done. His wife going over finances and so on.
I can´t agree more. Him sitting in front of the television, feeling hopeless, his wife doing the finances and feeling pity for her husband. Then, salvations knocks on your door.
To me it's quite a good example of show don't tell
Despite the inaccuracies I really love this movie. It was really well done.
"Potrei insegnarlo a uno di loro" una delle migliori battute di questo magnifico film
That relief hug hit hard.
Billy is the first to note the girls entrance, doesn't engage in the personal line of conversation when Scott asks if he has kids, eats from the tray Scott's wife brought in, and jokes around with his partner. Absolute class acting
This is a good movie because the stakes were low, I mean who gives a damn about an MLB championship, but because of the writing, director, and acting it made the stakes feel world changing.
We need more of these types of movies right now.
This scene is so good. So funny. Love it.
Oh, and it was $950K for one year. Merry Christmas, Scotty H!
$1.7 million in today's dollars.
Chris Pratt is a legend. Cool dude.
This scene makes me choke up everytime. The wife doing the bills....you can see the stress. Then in the end they hug like.....we have hope.
A masterpiece of Direction. That scene could have been done a dozen different ways. It’s perfect.
Excellent scene from a great film. Thanks. “Happy Holidays,” indeed.
I think people too often overlook the stress and devastation men fear/feel when they cant provide for their family. Men carry that around every day… even when things are fine.
Scenes like this…. Similar to Cinderella Man… really hammer home the point: We’d rather die than fail.
I cried.
“You got kids?”
“Huh? Uhhh yeah a daughter HERE’S YOUR CONTRACT…”
Such a great movie
I love this movie.
Top 3 scenes in the movie.
"Its incredibly hard"
Fans might not run a team but if they get highly upset or opinionated, it can lead to the owner firing a manager, general manager or both.
I saw this movie about 3 years ago and my daughter was 2 years old at the time. This scene always warms me up and I almost get tears every time
It's great that Starlord got a chance to try baseball while on Earth.
Who?
Chris Pratt does his best work when he’s part of an ensemble and not the main guy.
This is what happens when your career in wrangling velociraptors doesn't work out.
Every time I watch clips from this movie it makes me sad that the A’s are no longer in Oakland.
The film went from a dramatised documentary to a work of fiction in a world where the Oakland A's never existed because they don't now
Sadly this never happened but as many have said this is such a powerful scene. Here we have Scott Hatteberg who was traded from Boston to Colorado then the Rockies cut him. So he's on his couch as his wife is paying the bills. Scott is now unemployed and while he's not destitute at this point(he was paid $1,050,000 by Boston in 2001) he needs to figure out what to do with his life. He knows he can't be a catcher anymore. Then here comes Billy Beane and Ron Washington knocking on his door and they end up offering him $900,000 to play 1st base for the A's. A lifeline. Thanks to the cheapness of the A's which forced Beane to find a place for him and teach him a new position he ends up playing for another 7 seasons but as I said according to Hatteberg himself this scene never happened.
Scotts tots scholarship offer
“Discuss it with your wife”
I imagine that was a brief discussion
It's not that hard Scott. Tell him. It's incredibly hard🤣🤣🤣
Excelent acting
This movie had a poor ending but was strong in beautiful little scenes like this one.
Nobody eats on screen like Pitt
I have my whole life ahead of me
That was a 950K life line....
It just boggles me how he seems so reticent about playing first base. Sure, he’s never done it before, but no other club is asking for his services and with the contract, the A’s are paying him several hundred thousand dollars to learn. Then, he’s got a young daughter, a wife and bills to pay… just say “yes.”
He’s lost his confidence and I don’t think his conscience can handle “conning” the A’s and accepting the contact if they don’t know he’s not as good anymore. Billy and the A’s already know that of course but Scott needed the push.
so, if he can't throw, what did he do when he needed to throw it after tagging someone out? 1st basemen do throw sometimes
Solo lo tenia que hacer esporadicamente y el esfuerzo es mucho menor que estar de cacher
@Sam-m8n8s OK, gracias!
Now i will search that Scot guy
Ìncrease the volume
I think any professional ball player would lie through his teeth and say he can play any position needed...
Love Wash
Fun fact that’s the actual wife of Scot.
Star Lord, white Gomora and their family have been given a second chance on earth.
Can anyone explain why they chose Scott to play 1st base? If hes never played it, how can they have any stats to know he can do it?
Because he gets on base
@YoItzAzza but never on 1st, so how are they sure he can get on base on 1st?
They wanted him for OBP but he couldnt play catcher anymore because his arm was shot for throwing. So he went to first base because that usually doesnt require hard throws
@plaidchuck but why hire him at all to play a spot he's not done before?
@@KiltBill2they’re looking for incredibly cheap, under the radar and flexible options to fill their roster. Hatteberg is a player who had a high OBP, THAT is the metric they’re wanting.
Yes, he’s a catcher by trade, but his arm is shot. Their only chance is to retrain him. Like the other guy said - it’s a ‘better’ role for him hopefully.
They don’t ‘know’, but they’re gambling with the hire is the simple answer to your question - with some layer of data. He has some skills needed, but they have to develop him into it. They can’t afford anyone else top level to play natural first base - or any option they COULD afford will be average anyway or won’t have a high OBP.
Ok. This irks me, but where did Scott Hatteberg live during this moment. Was it around Oakland or did Brad Pitt fly across the country for this? It is a bs question, but it still works me.
On the TV you’ll see he was watching news from K5 which is King 5 based in Seattle. That is roughly a 2 hour flight from Oakland to Seattle. East turn and burn flight. Chris Pratt is also a Native to WA state so go hawks
Hatteberg was living in Phoenix at the time, so it would have been a couple of hours flight (usually these guys have access to a corporate jet so no big deal.)
Fix the audio.
You know damn well she was just thinking about divorcing his ass 😂
Stop using auto translator
Dude was a catcher why is he broke?
A catcher that can't throw a baseball is a top hiring prospect, correct?
I don’t see why he looked sad. He lived in a middle class home. I’m sure he had enough money still. They made it seem like they were behind in bills
He didn't look sad, he looked bored, and it's a movie so they 'simplify' for the average moviegoer.
He's sad because he was thinking his career was over and didn't know what else he would be doing with his life at that moment. Monetarily, he would have been fine.
His wife was sitting in the background, fretting over a pile of paperwork on the dining room table...what do you want to bet that those were bills?
P.S. You can live in a mansion, right up until it is seized for foreclosure...
I love how Brad Pitt is eating on the way out.
Why doesn’t he shake their hands when they leave? Really winds me up for some reason
Acting like the A's had nobody. They were still loaded with stars after giambi left. It wasn't fuckin hatter erg or Bradford that won all them games. Just stop
They lost Giambi, Damon and Isringhausen. They had young pitching threesome and Tejada
Name the stars they were loaded with...
@codymoe4986 Hudson Mulder zito tejada chavez
@@pomerlain8924 u mean zito Mulder n Hudson. Three future cy young winners. Tejada and chavez
@pomerlain8924 zito 23-5cy young. Hudson 18-9, Mulder 19 wins. Chavez gold glove. Tejada .308, 38hr 204hits, 131rbi al MVP. But yeah it was hatterberg justice n frickin Bradford that won it all for them.
It’s incredibly hard…..😂
This is a good movie because the stakes were low, I mean who gives a damn about an MLB championship, but because of the writing, director, and acting it made the stakes feel world changing.
We need more of these types of movies right now.