Turtles in Time (SNES) vs The Hyperstone Heist (Sega Genesis) James and Mike Mondays

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    James Rolfe and Mike Matei play and compare Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist for Sega Genesis to Turtles in Time for Super Nintendo.
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  • @JamesNintendoNerd
    @JamesNintendoNerd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Check out Mike's complete playthrough of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist!
    th-cam.com/video/_-a26TDU4Js/w-d-xo.html

    • @LassIsolet
      @LassIsolet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FTL: Faster Than Light review please...

    • @adrianhetmanski1832
      @adrianhetmanski1832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both of these games look great boyz.
      3 more great Shooters on SNES, UNsquadron, Cybernator & the awesome Axelay.

    • @yFxLvPvrrEaEzoPlPOLIVWsQxNFdQM
      @yFxLvPvrrEaEzoPlPOLIVWsQxNFdQM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ya'll should play streets of rage 4 for one of these vids! 😃

    • @samuswilliams4576
      @samuswilliams4576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No im good - not a big fan of mikey

    • @jayNicks10
      @jayNicks10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That almost feels like his redemption video for how he played the game in this episode.

  • @gustavolopez2599
    @gustavolopez2599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +853

    Nintendo had Konami by the balls and had an agreement they could not port over their games to other competitors like Sega. So Sega was smart and asked Konami to make their own different game for them so they wouldn't break breach of contract with Nintendo. A win win in my book =)

    • @fernansanchez6331
      @fernansanchez6331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      "Genesis does what nintendon't"

    • @igodreamer7096
      @igodreamer7096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Smart move, indeed

    • @donkeypong1847
      @donkeypong1847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Nintendo might have asked konami to use alot of the mode 7 effect (don't know how the arcade version worked). Same with castlevania 4 and Contra 3. This would make the games hard to port.

    • @610Hobbies
      @610Hobbies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      I really hate it when people talk about Nintendo as if Nintendo was their loving parent, when Nintendo was an asshole company that wanted to be a monopoly.

    • @alexbiehn978
      @alexbiehn978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      only the arcade games they could port , like sunset riders

  • @suchfunstuff
    @suchfunstuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    "Big Apple! Three A.M."

    • @adhitamaprasetya4220
      @adhitamaprasetya4220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      👖👖👖👖👖
      "Welcome to PC Optimiser Pro"

    • @JD4we
      @JD4we 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Starbase where no turtle has gone befo.

    • @gabrielzamudio3001
      @gabrielzamudio3001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol yeeea 🙂

    • @onyxdomainDOTcom
      @onyxdomainDOTcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oddly enough the arcade version doesn't have that vocal sample. Every other stage does though. It's weird.

    • @johndula88
      @johndula88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "Bury my shell at wounded knee"

  • @chubbycatfish4573
    @chubbycatfish4573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    I miss this version of Konami.

    • @goldskula
      @goldskula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You and everybody else mate

    • @Mecha82
      @Mecha82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Don't we all?

    • @random_gamer_guy82
      @random_gamer_guy82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So does hideo kojima

    • @Dj.D25
      @Dj.D25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True, Konami used to be amazing. The only thing I look forward to from Konami now are their music arcade games every year. They only seem to care about arcade games and pachinko machines.

    • @derek-64
      @derek-64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      back in the day when konami actually gave a shit. now it's just fucking pachinko machines. if we could get even a glimpse of the old konami maybe we could get a new Castlevania. no metroid stuff either. just old school, linear Castlevania.

  • @dept-7443
    @dept-7443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    I was 12 years old when I got Turtles In Time on SNES, it was magical. Felt like I had control over the cartoon, great days.

    • @dutchweeks1
      @dutchweeks1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was around 30 when I finally got my hands on a copy. STILL magical :)

    • @luciousthomas6141
      @luciousthomas6141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No doubt me tooooooooo!

    • @joselombana8381
      @joselombana8381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It was 1992 I was 12 when my dad got me and my three brothers this game for xmas. It was the last gift because he died a week later. We still get together till this day and rotate the two controllers to all take part in beating this bad boy in the name of our father.

    • @dept-7443
      @dept-7443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jose Lombana that’s very good way to remember the passing of your father, my friend.

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joselombana8381 I'm sorry for the lost of your father at such a young age. Good to see you and your siblings honor him every year with such an awesome game. ^_^ Thank you for sharing your story.

  • @patriciajacobs8224
    @patriciajacobs8224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    *Either way you look at it, Turtles In Time and The Hyperstone Heist are both stone cold classics!*

    • @christurbed199869
      @christurbed199869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Manhattan project does the same thing the special attacks takes your life bars away

    • @sidneygraham
      @sidneygraham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed I love playing both

    • @michaelbatista2869
      @michaelbatista2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Uh. No. Not even close. Turtles in time is way better. Mainly because the fighting mechanics were much more complete.

    • @StaticTV80
      @StaticTV80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@michaelbatista2869 Actually hyperstone is faster and has more frames of animation and detailed sprites

    • @michaelbatista2869
      @michaelbatista2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StaticTV80 the game pace was close. But the animation frames might be a little faster however the snes port was 1:1 otherwise. Sega's development was vastly different and the level design and bosses werent as interesting

  • @jpr1est783
    @jpr1est783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Streets of Rage 4 for J&MM?

    • @backbeathighway
      @backbeathighway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Absolutely agreed, I had that same thought when Mike mentioned being pissed about how specials take energy because SoR4 handles that problem pretty well in that it gives you a chance to regain that energy.

    • @localmusicians
      @localmusicians 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think because tony and mike already did it, They might not want to do it again, Plus If I remember correctly Mike and James Did Final fight.

    • @danielblake1537
      @danielblake1537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@localmusicians I think they should play Mighty Final Fight that's like my all time favorite beat em up!! Just sucks it's not a 2-player game :/

    • @matthewford3447
      @matthewford3447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jie Pon They all ready did that two weeks ago on M&TT so there's really no point to do it on J&MM.

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SOR3 also made it a little less draining, if you let a bar fill up you could use a special and not lose health.

  • @brandonmiller4595
    @brandonmiller4595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I had a genesis so Hyperstone Heist holds a special place in my heart. I do remember shredder was the same in both versions. Also you have to play both on Hard to get the ‘real’ ending.

  • @AllieRX
    @AllieRX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Turtles In Time has a far better 2020 than the one we got. 😞

    • @lworthy2518
      @lworthy2518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But we don't have neon light-flashing hoverboards. Well, we kinda do, BUT they don't really "hover".

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lworthy2518 exactly you're just agreeing with him

    • @DangerFieldProd
      @DangerFieldProd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@IAm-zo1bo But hey - we do have foot soldiers running in the streets

    • @TheCastellan
      @TheCastellan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank big oil for that. >_>

    • @stanstanstan2597
      @stanstanstan2597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DangerFieldProd The only difference is that ours have gained a massive societal following. See, they went the clever route-they didn’t try to be sneaky about it, and instead they just said they were doing it for social justice.

  • @blakecretens7623
    @blakecretens7623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I didn’t have a Sega growing up, and I just played Castlevania: Bloodlines a couple years ago. I was blown away by some of the graphical effects they achieved. Pretty badass game, and the Sega was a very solid system.

  • @emilianolagioia5843
    @emilianolagioia5843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Keep doing SNES vs genesis videos plz. This one was amazing!

    • @Jack_80
      @Jack_80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      only game i played that genesis wins in drastically is robocop vs terminator. i remember playing it at a friends or something on genesis and loving it, then i got really excited when i found out it was on snes and got it and it sucked. completely different, slower, jankier game. one of the most disappointing games i got as a kid.

    • @thealarm7057
      @thealarm7057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jack_80 I think they already did a J&MM on Robocop vs Terminator for snes, and it was pretty bad indeed.

    • @pogwigginsprod.7702
      @pogwigginsprod.7702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jurassic Park

  • @Alianger
    @Alianger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I remember me and my cousin were so impressed with the character sprites that we used to pause the game in the middle of moves to "show off" certain looks and grimaces
    Honestly I think my fave is TMNT 3 on NES in retrospect, for the variation and unique special moves.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Back when everything wasn't a muddle of hi-res textures and lighting engine nonsense so you could actually see what was going on.

    • @Richard_Nickerson
      @Richard_Nickerson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's so funny to go back and look at what was considered good graphics in the past. I used to put the N64 on such a high pedestal.

    • @olimpicus
      @olimpicus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here the manhattan project was awesome!

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always wished instead of Tournamnet Fighters on Genesis (it sucks for the most part) they would have made a beat em up ground up for the console, like they did witn TMNT III for the NES. Turtles in Time and Hyperstone Hiest to a lesser extent were really good, but ultimatelty made up of mostly of arcade content.

    • @fritospie7982
      @fritospie7982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its, "I remember my cousin and I were so impressed." Would you say, "I remember me was so impressed?" No! you'd sound like an idiot.

  • @luciousthomas6141
    @luciousthomas6141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I loved the original Turtles Arcade game. I loved the Turtles In Time the Arcade game as well. So when I got Turtles in Time on the SNES on X-Mas 92 it was unbelievable. I couldn't believe it when I looked at the box. I couldn't believe it as I opened up the box and started playing it. I just couldn't believe I had this game in my possession and was playing it at home and could play it anytime I wanted to. FOR REAL!

    • @dimitrisbam1132
      @dimitrisbam1132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      m8 you made me go back in time with your vivid description...no pun intended

    • @mysterycupofjoe2670
      @mysterycupofjoe2670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dimitrisbam1132 Ditto. People are also confused about the SEGA version. To me, this was another Arcade game. We need a compilation of all of them, including the Tournament Fighters.

    • @johnnybensonitis7853
      @johnnybensonitis7853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That feeling.....aw man, it's one unique to the time for sure.

    • @j.t.thomas1859
      @j.t.thomas1859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The SNES version is better than the arcade version.

    • @luciousthomas6141
      @luciousthomas6141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j.t.thomas1859 It was! One of the few cases back then!

  • @TheFartsandCrapsShow
    @TheFartsandCrapsShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of the best beat-em-ups ever. I personally think Hyperstone Heist is more fun and much prettier. The set pieces in Turtles in Time are sometimes fantastic and creative, but each stage is over too quickly, but it does depend largely on preference. Specifically, I think the sprites and backdrops and music are much better on Genesis.

    • @gunsharck
      @gunsharck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spec savers mate!

  • @masterman3178
    @masterman3178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Such fond memories of me playing this on the ocean city NJ boardwalk in the 90’s. The boardwalk there actually still has this cabinet, and the arcade is still open. Playing it there in my 30’s really takes me back to my childhood.

    • @cocolokoflacco
      @cocolokoflacco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      fax

    • @FurbyParade226
      @FurbyParade226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ocean City still has 6 player X-Men as well, at least as of a few years ago

  • @blainethemono19
    @blainethemono19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Both solid games, but that SNES soundtrack man... Unbeatable

    • @legion1188
      @legion1188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I concur

    • @dwaynestjohn5324
      @dwaynestjohn5324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agree

    • @ryanheckel37
      @ryanheckel37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto

    • @Karls_Clips
      @Karls_Clips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Idk man as a sega nerd i adore that synth sound and this game has awesome sound regardless.

    • @TheBaioken
      @TheBaioken 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also graphics are smoother and levels/settings just more fun

  • @Untouchaable
    @Untouchaable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    It's time for them to make a new TMNT beat 'em up game.

    • @prox8437
      @prox8437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hopefully. I mean Streets of Rage 4 just came out recently so anything could happen.

    • @TheyCallMeBruce13
      @TheyCallMeBruce13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is a new TMNT arcade game, and it's not terrible.

    • @41dn
      @41dn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They should release the 2012 arcade game to consoles

    • @ProfessorxVile
      @ProfessorxVile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's always 2016's "Mutants in Manhattan", if you can find a copy (it was pulled off the shelves after less than a year).

    • @ZeroB4NG
      @ZeroB4NG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes, but they NEED to get away from 3D... TMNT is just always shit in 3D, even the Nintendo DS that are 2D sidescrollers are better than the big console versions.

  • @gutz1981
    @gutz1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seeing you guys play the game side by side with different characters, makes it feel like one game were the Turtles are out on different missions at the same time.

  • @creativerealms
    @creativerealms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The Technodrome stage is only in the SNES version. You go back in time from the sewer stage. The SNES and Arcade versions of Turtles in time have some different stages and bosses.
    That's why people who only played the SNES version thought that remake from years back removed stages and bosses, it was the arcade version.

    • @Rodzilla97
      @Rodzilla97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i think the snes game is better than the arcade. it's that damn good. it has more bosses, more levels, tighter controls, and a time attack and 2 players vs mode. arcade has slightly better graphics, and sound

    • @stochinblockin
      @stochinblockin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That makes sense because the only way to defeat Shredder in the technodrome was to throw the foot soldiers at the "screen", something the arcade doesn't have the ability to do.

    • @adrenalinex4
      @adrenalinex4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Rodzilla97 true. I also think that mud boss made no sense. Slash was a more fitting boss imo.

    • @TromaDogg
      @TromaDogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only thing I really wish the SNES version had kept from the arcade game is the awesome 'Pizza Power!' intro and theme tune before the title screen pops up. I still go back to the arcade original every now and then just for that. Otherwise, the SNES version was better than the arcade asides from a couple of missing speech samples ('Argh! My toes! My toes!)

    • @creativerealms
      @creativerealms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Rodzilla97 I agree the SNES version was superior.

  • @Mari_Yumishi
    @Mari_Yumishi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    When you were discussing the different personalities of the turtles and you brought up the Leo is the leader but what does that mean. I always looked at it like, that Leo is more level headed and grounded in reason and is able to make decisions with out much emotion getting in the way and clouding his judgement.

    • @kekeke8988
      @kekeke8988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly, just look at any interaction between Leo and Raph.

    • @QJ89
      @QJ89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Insert comparison to Blossom.

    • @sabrinamiller3671
      @sabrinamiller3671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Leo was my fave in the old movies. I think I'm the only one who prefers goofy Raph from the old cartoon to the standard hot-headed lone wolf in nearly all other sources.

    • @JSN117
      @JSN117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leonardo's character is waaaay more fleshed out in the 2003 series. You can even argue its the most developed character in that.

    • @mechazoic
      @mechazoic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed, Leo was always my favourite because he was the most mature and level headed.

  • @silverwings21
    @silverwings21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    24:05 I like the zoom in; I was thinking: "The name is right there on the screen".

  • @BellowDGaming
    @BellowDGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    James - "You didn't see videogames so well resemble the cartoons."
    Konami back in the day TMNT Arcade, Turtles In Time, The Simpsons Arcade, X-Men and The Punisher

    • @ScottWozniak
      @ScottWozniak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Punisher was Capcom.

    • @ArtofZenDigital
      @ArtofZenDigital 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Punisher was incredible. There are so many hidden moves that make it better than most arcade beat em ups. The best thing about it is, outside of Streets of Rage 2 on the Genesis, there weren’t many beat em ups from that era that had that many move sets.

    • @Kourumeme
      @Kourumeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Astérix and bucky o hare

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Welcome To Die!"

  • @sonicmario64
    @sonicmario64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Because of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge" coming out next week, watching this video is a definite way of getting myself all hyped before the game's release. ^^

    • @Justforvisit
      @Justforvisit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And, did it live up to the Hype for you? :D

    • @gunsharck
      @gunsharck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would you need to “hype” yourself for a turtles game???

    • @sonicmario64
      @sonicmario64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gunsharck Well, for one reason, "TMNT: Shredder's Revenge" happens to be an excellent and properly-designed game that had a lot of work put into it, considering the fact that the TMNT video games were often praised for their beat-em-up action during much of the 1990s, and this game was able to deliver exactly what old-school gamers who grew up with the franchise had wanted, especially since a majority of the TMNT games that were released during the 2000s and 2010s had failed to do just that.

  • @markcollins7089
    @markcollins7089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    In order to get the "true" ending James you have to beat it on the hard mode
    I can make it to prehistoric turtlesarus before I need to continue. The technodrome boss battle is a pain where the foot soldiers always block your attacks unless you shoulder check them

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hard mode is awesome in two player mode. On my own, I'd be lucky if I get half way in Prehistoric Turtlesaurus without losing lives. X_X Two player on Hard mode is the way to go.

    • @marmcd2003
      @marmcd2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      34:39 he literally says it.

    • @TheHauntedMouth
      @TheHauntedMouth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Slash is the hardest boss in the game, by far.

    • @chesspunk489
      @chesspunk489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHauntedMouth definitely

    • @geonoberkin
      @geonoberkin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those guy were a pain... until you realize you can just tackle (dash and hit) to take their guard out, then catapult them

  • @enternamehere9355
    @enternamehere9355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It's easier to look at that stuff when you're not playing it" I said exactly that when we had a family gathering about 20 years ago and I was sitting at the computer playing You Don't Know Jack with multiple relatives gathered around and my cousin whom I have been best friends with my whole life, as we were born only three weeks apart, yells an answer out.

  • @TVsMrNeil
    @TVsMrNeil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The home version of Turtles In Time had a bunch of extra levels, including the Technodrome. You actually get sent back in time at the end of the sewer level.
    Hyperstone Heist is more like a compilation of the Turtles arcade games. It has bosses from both arcade cabinets and a bunch of stages from all over the place. I think the Shogun level from the home port of TMNT Arcade makes a partial appearance. Also, the surfing level is from The Manhattan Project. I think it also mixes elements of both sewer levels from Arcade and Turtles In Time.
    Rocksteady is in Hyperstone Heist, but not Bebop. Also, human Baxter Stockman is in the game for some reason. And they included Tatsu from the movie.
    The final boss for both games is interesting. In the Super Nintendo version of Turtles in Time, they changed Shredder to Super Shredder, but in Hyperstone Heist, it has the original Shredder end fight from the arcade Turtles In Time.

    • @RealAlphaDrum
      @RealAlphaDrum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SNES had the Technodrome as the only extra level and the addition of Super Shredder as the final boss.

    • @davezanko9051
      @davezanko9051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, and I forgot, the change of the hoverboard level from side-scrolling to an F-Zero like forward scrolling.

    • @ENiceGeo
      @ENiceGeo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Super Shredder is in the Hyperstone Heist. It's the same fight as in the SNES game.

    • @bishopwalton3122
      @bishopwalton3122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try the turtles in time hack for megadrive

  • @nomikanyo
    @nomikanyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had Hyperstone heist when i was kid, and played it with friends so many times through. I don't think any of us had turtles in time, so didn't get to play it really. But heist always remains one of my favorite games on genesis and now days i of course prefer it over turtles in time, just because it was big part of my childhood.

    • @crazyking1896
      @crazyking1896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ben DC4L It really annoys me that are so many people saying the Snes version is better, we get it you don't have to keep saying its better.

  • @SuperFarmerBros64
    @SuperFarmerBros64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    7:37 James remembers watching a guy at the arcade beat the technodrome level, even though the technodrome level in only on the SNES port...ok.

    • @filmaticpictures9693
      @filmaticpictures9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could definitely be remembering the original arcade game

  • @joerogan368
    @joerogan368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Neon Night Riders had the best song out of any other SNES in my opinion

  • @quezcatol
    @quezcatol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hyperstone Heist was awesome, I had it as a kid and friend had turtles in time- we played through both together!

  • @dirkb9788
    @dirkb9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What a surprise, the Nintendo fan boys like the Nintendo version more.

    • @therealhard8times
      @therealhard8times 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @andywolan
      @andywolan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, the "boss rush" in Hyperstone is a bit of a disappointment.

  • @Zorro3k6
    @Zorro3k6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I played Hyperstone Heist all the time as a kid. My friends and I loved it. I never had a Super Nintendo. So I didn't know about Turtles in Time until years later. That said, I'm still greatly nostalgic for HH. It was fun even though you do end up fighting the same bosses again towards the end. Not sure why they decided to program it like that.

    • @1ButtonDash
      @1ButtonDash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yea i always found that to be weird especially how they had rocksteady in the game but diidn't add Be-Bop. it had to be something due to time contraints or something.

    • @Victory-in-YAHSHUA
      @Victory-in-YAHSHUA ปีที่แล้ว

      Sega Genesis hardware limitations.

    • @KobayashiBrynhild
      @KobayashiBrynhild 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right there with you. I actually beat it on hard and got the true ending, but that was about 30 years ago, when I was 10. I don't think I could do it today, not without lots of practice. I do have cowabunga collection, though, so maybe one day soon I can do it again.

  • @MisterMelange
    @MisterMelange 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait a minute... are we doing this?
    Yes! It's time for... CONSOLE WARS!

  • @HunterPBrown
    @HunterPBrown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Sounds like an episode of Console Wars.

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What a way to go all the way back to the past. O_O

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny thing is back then, the games weren't really competing directly for sales since you didn't have a choice, you bought the game for the console you picked.. instead they were competing for console vs console arguments.

    • @HunterPBrown
      @HunterPBrown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LadyCoyKoi ikr lol I love those guys.

  • @shrews12001
    @shrews12001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    deep irony of the Switch conversation as i listen to this while playing the Cowabunga Collection

  • @villthewillain
    @villthewillain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both great games, I think the controls worked better on turtles in time though

  • @doomislav5791
    @doomislav5791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Poor Mike was having SNES envy - and rightfully so from what I saw

  • @alexhobbs1208
    @alexhobbs1208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Back when konami was gold

    • @Kourumeme
      @Kourumeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bucky o hare, moo-Mesa, Simpsons, and Astérix are good beat em ups from konami via licenses.

    • @Captain_Neckbeard
      @Captain_Neckbeard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Konami and Capcom were the best third party developers. There were also tons of great third party developers back in the 80s-90s. I've grown tired of modern games, and I'm much more enjoying my retro games, now.

    • @Kourumeme
      @Kourumeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Imagine if Konami did a beat em up game on South Park

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back when they actually gave a shit.

  • @chickenquesadilla8139
    @chickenquesadilla8139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Played Hyperstone Heist daily as a kid. Never had the privilege to play Turtles in Time though. Mike seems like he'd have been more receptive if not for the boss gauntlet.

  • @guysafari
    @guysafari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hyperstone is better. It's faster and has better control. I'd love for turtles in time to have a run button. It would make a world of difference.

    • @TheyCallMeBruce13
      @TheyCallMeBruce13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That run button is wasted on the Genesis controller, unfortunately. It's much more difficult to do the run-jump-dive move on the Genesis.

    • @guysafari
      @guysafari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheyCallMeBruce13 you gotta claw bro

    • @TheyCallMeBruce13
      @TheyCallMeBruce13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Daishin no Dōro that doesn't fix the problem

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌🏾

  • @CainNuke
    @CainNuke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The technodrome stage was a SNES exclusive so its very unlikely you have seen it in the arcade. In the arcade version you go straight into time travel right after you finish the sewers.

  • @Syklonus
    @Syklonus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The special move taking away life has been a staple feature in beat 'em ups since Final Fight. It's basically there to stop you spamming the move throughout the whole game. Health pickups usually make up for it.

  • @benhicks7491
    @benhicks7491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Finally got me with the ad 😂. I’m perusing the 1upcard site now

  • @buddabudda
    @buddabudda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Gotta be honest - My mind is kind of blown that James has never heard the term Boss Rush. How is that even possible?

    • @UnoriginalFish
      @UnoriginalFish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is not a gamer in the sense mike is. He is a casual gamer and its like an old hobby he had when he was on high school- collage. I think it surprises you cause people expect him to be a hardcore gamer as he did the avgn series.
      Truth is avgn is like a mini show series or a series of short films. You can see that on board james more easily i think. Because you don't focus on the board games as we focus on video games when we watch the avgn episodes.
      I was suprise like you were until i spend a lot of time on cinemassacre.com watching his movie reviews. He is a director- artist who uses video games as materials to produce movies

    • @Nobunaga1983
      @Nobunaga1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James really isn’t a gamer, he’s a reviewer/casual player

  • @Gladson
    @Gladson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Genesis: "it's really stupid that they did a boss rush where you have to defeat all the bosses again, feels like I could be seeing more characters instead"
    Nintendo, plays any Mega Man: "Wow that's a great idea, fighting all bosses again before the final one!"
    By the way, Zelda reference: in A Link to the Past you must face many bosses for the second time at the end of the game, I wonder if he thinks it's also stupid.

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "Back in the time, when Konami cared about they games"
    Damn, I miss those times! hahahahahaa

    • @Elico-du1oi
      @Elico-du1oi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Licence game

    • @nweditor875
      @nweditor875 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      true there last good Ninja turtles game was on DS 3 Mutant Nightmare.

    • @andrewhunter9119
      @andrewhunter9119 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is it so hard for you to just say 'their' instead of 'they'? Its not any easier. You are legitimately going out of your way to sound like an idiot.

    • @stevethigpen6242
      @stevethigpen6242 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When Konami cared? When did “they” stop? Metal Gear series are some of the best games out there to this day. Snake eater is and always will be in my top 5.

    • @Sparkfist83
      @Sparkfist83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevethigpen6242 Konami is not the same anymore. Snake Eater is one of the "back in the days" games now.

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 years later, not only was the Cowabunga Collection released on Switch (every previous Turtles game, arcade and console), but there is also a new game (Shredder's Revenge).

  • @DoomPlague
    @DoomPlague 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dracula X is fairly different from Rondo of Blood, just like the other konami games of the era. I only remember a few maps being similar. Pretty sure it was just Konami's strategy of saving on development costs by reusing things but still giving platforms exclusives.

    • @kekeke8988
      @kekeke8988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rondo of Blood is Dracula X. That's the full title. Akumajo Dracula X: Chi no Rondo (Rondo of Blood).
      The SNES version is instead called Akumajo Dracula XX, at least in Japan.
      Dracula XX is essentially a rearranged "hard version" of Rondo of Blood. It's like The Lost Levels compared to Super Mario Bros in that regard.

    • @toiletsinjapan9933
      @toiletsinjapan9933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kekeke8988 its also cut down because they couldnt fit everything into a snes cartridge compared to a cd game

    • @ShadowSumac
      @ShadowSumac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dracula X is more like a remake of Rondo - the levels and gameplay are completely different. The only thing is the same are character / enemy / boss sprites and the music. Well, and story.

    • @ShadowSumac
      @ShadowSumac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toiletsinjapan9933 Unlikely. Someone has counted and it seems Rondo could fit on the SNES cart, sans the music of course.

    • @BeerBaron23
      @BeerBaron23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard version? I find Dracula X is way easier than Rondo of Blood...

  • @ScorpioandSebek
    @ScorpioandSebek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hyperstone Hiest was my shit a sibling classic for 90s genesis owners.

    • @ScorpioandSebek
      @ScorpioandSebek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I'm saying it was my shit and a classic game that siblings played together that's all.😉

    • @ScorpioandSebek
      @ScorpioandSebek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Old School 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @r0ckbass
      @r0ckbass 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Old School He's trying really hard to be funny, cut him some slack.

    • @ScorpioandSebek
      @ScorpioandSebek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krisfrederick5001 Oh wow that's insane gotta get with the 90s man

    • @CyberLance26
      @CyberLance26 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got The Hyperstone Heist and me and my friends used to play it all the time on my Sega Mega Drive when i was a kid.

  • @jmn327
    @jmn327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Took awhile but I eventually owned both games; I think I ended up feeling like Hyperstone played a bit better, but Turtles in Time had a lot more features to keep it fresh.

  • @dieinfire920
    @dieinfire920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The special move described near the end of the video, the one you do on most beat’em up by pressing two buttons at the same time, it’s a “crowd control” move, you are supposedly to use only when surrounding or when you are getting your ass kicked. If it don’t take your energy, you’ll abuse it. Some games made this different by adding a separate energy bar that will get depleted when you use these moves ( some versions of the arcade X-men you get items, like shoot’ ups “bombs” to do the special mutant move).
    Also, James has been playing Konami games all his life, can’t believe still didn’t know you always need to beat their games on hard to get the best ending.

  • @itchyisvegeta
    @itchyisvegeta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23:00 - I LOVE the Contra 3 overhead stages! Who is with me?

    • @LarryLopez91
      @LarryLopez91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I don't hate them like a lot of people lol

  • @TheMultiGunMan
    @TheMultiGunMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have Hyperstone Heist for the Genesis and I love it. One of my favorites for the system.

  • @darkenforcer1651
    @darkenforcer1651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Bringing back the gud ole childhood memories cheeeeee

  • @STRAKAZulu
    @STRAKAZulu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see a lot of similar stages from the NES Turtles Arcade game in Hyperstone Heist. Like the garage section, with the car that tries to run you over.

  • @pumpkinking5397
    @pumpkinking5397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For some reason this session really stood out to me. I think it's because amid all this covid-19 insanity, this shows how people can really get together. Even if it's something as simple as video games, even though we're separated, we're not far from each other. Maybe it's because watching them playing old-school games reminds me of the times when I used to play those games next to my friends. This just brings it all back. But that's the point isn't it?

  • @rogerstephenroth8073
    @rogerstephenroth8073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best TMNT game is the arcade game where you could play all 4 turtles at the same time. If I am going to see a new TMNT game a multi player 4 player game is a must do for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft no question.

  • @darkone292
    @darkone292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hyperstone heist was the one I has as a kid. It’s also my favourite

  • @geoffreybrooks6041
    @geoffreybrooks6041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    James has never heard of a boss rush? That's been an official mode in many games for many, many years.

    • @maryjohnson5377
      @maryjohnson5377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been a gamer since Atari in the 80's and I've been through a boss rush in many games, but I don't think I have ever heard anyone call it that until this video.

    • @SkunkStarlight
      @SkunkStarlight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maryjohnson5377 The earliest example I can remember where the term "boss rush" was used within a game was Ristar back in 1995. So the term goes back _at least_ that far.

    • @PigeonHoledByYT
      @PigeonHoledByYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like the name of the level, I always called it a Gauntlet. The Gauntlet from Hyperstone Heist influenced how I viewed boss rush levels in future games.

    • @ENiceGeo
      @ENiceGeo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maryjohnson5377 The earliest I can remember the term was in the portable Castlevania games for the Gameboy Advance. It was an unlockable feature. That was early 2000's.

  • @capswole81
    @capswole81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would like to see a remake of “The Manhattan Project” as well. “Turtles in Time Reshelled” was fun too. I wish it was available in the PlayStation store.

  • @zachcouch8654
    @zachcouch8654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please play Turtles Rescue Palooza

  • @Uglybuttfiend
    @Uglybuttfiend 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't have many friends, so watching these videos is like hanging out with old friends.

  • @jinxkilloo7270
    @jinxkilloo7270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's was fun hanging with you buds. Can't wait to hang with you guys again 🎮

  • @Dasmesee
    @Dasmesee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SNES version is the Arcade one.

    • @amso7169
      @amso7169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except better.

  • @pogue972
    @pogue972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish they would release these remastered on modern systems. I'm still mad Konami removed Simpsons & X-Men from the XBL store.

    • @Athonite
      @Athonite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Konami might not have had a choice, now that Disney owns both of those IPs.

  • @overnightdelivery
    @overnightdelivery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    22:10 James makes a Rookie mistake by not grabbing the Pizza with only 2 health bars left. I know they were just having fun but you notice these things. (;p

  • @thedankens
    @thedankens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hyperstone Heist was always my favorite of the two... never knew why.

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel like hyperstone heist is a bit more of an after thought of a game. Turtles in time feels like it has a plot and your logically going from one stage to the next progressing that plot. Heist just looks like they took the assets from turtles in time and threw them in a blender. Random shit happening in a random order. Also, the repeating bosses thing felt like one of those "oh shit, we gotta finish this quick, reuse some stuff to pad out the play time".

    • @cameronwyda6672
      @cameronwyda6672 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's outsourced. Not developed in house by Konami like Turtles in Time was. Not so much an afterthought but a situation where they didn't have the proper resources to do Genesis games yet. Sonic/Sega's success caught the industry off guard.

  • @erickowiatek
    @erickowiatek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It plays "Pizza Power" from coming out of our shells, not Turtle Power. "Turtle Power" is the end credits song for the 1990 movie, by Partner in Kryme.

  • @Garrett316
    @Garrett316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got Hyperstone Heist from Amazon today. Just played it with my wife and 6 year old daughter. Both loved it.

  • @jacobindy8974
    @jacobindy8974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the episode featuring the yellow xenomorphs was entitled: “Attack of the killer pizzas” but invasion of the pizza snatchers still sounds awesome!

  • @diversityandcomicsbear2625
    @diversityandcomicsbear2625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Konami was getting around their “exclusive titles” deal with Nintendo.

  • @TechCom101
    @TechCom101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Most underrated TMNT character: Irma Langenstein.

  • @AtlasBlizzard
    @AtlasBlizzard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Leonardo's the responsible leader, the one who takes the most after his master and is his obvious successor. In comedy terms, he's the straightman to the other three.

  • @xSABRET00TH
    @xSABRET00TH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not that i don’t own both versions but i love to hear people talk about Hyperstone heist everybody acts like it never existed lol

  • @dennismolina9033
    @dennismolina9033 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I currently have the Cowabunga Collection! Hyperstone Heist is up there with Streets of Rage 2! 😀❤🔥

  • @justblais21
    @justblais21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hyperstone heist was the jam

  • @AbsoluteDeicide
    @AbsoluteDeicide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It only took until 2020 with Streets of Rage 4 for them to figure out the "power moves take your energy away" bullshit.

    • @LeeONardo
      @LeeONardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, SOR3 already did it by having the "OK" meter. Five blocks would fill, once OK shows above it you can use a special without penalty, it would then empty and fill up again. The less blocks you had the more health used.

  • @kbibeast
    @kbibeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't played turtles in time in maybe 15-20 years, but I still remember every song from Turtles In Time

  • @brentgraham2481
    @brentgraham2481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just remember you can go back in time and try the "change things" but that crime record will still be there !😂😂

  • @lucid6519
    @lucid6519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Castlevania dracula x and Rhondo of blood ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT lol you need to do 2 full play throughs of both.

    • @tiagofernandes8389
      @tiagofernandes8389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Akumajo Dracula X chi no rondo is the Japanese name of Castlevania rondo of blood.

  • @orinanime
    @orinanime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's actually "Pizza Power".
    "Pizza Power" plays at the end of the game. That's the song from The "Coming Out of Their Shells" Tour.
    "Turtle Power" is the song from Partners in Krhyme that plays in the 1990 movie.

  • @ericroberts4932
    @ericroberts4932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The song at the end credits of Turtles in Time (that's originally from the "Comming Out of Their Shells" tour) is called "Pizza Power" not "Turtle Power". "Turtle Power" is the name of the song from the end credits of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie.

  • @hisson1984
    @hisson1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Turtles in time hands down

  • @crobinson2624
    @crobinson2624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Think the reason why there were two versions of Turtles between the Genesis and SNES is likely due to exclusivity deals. Nintendo would get a “recreation” of the arcade game and Konami could get around that deal by taking assets from the game and making a different one for Genesis.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh that makes a lot of sense, so it wasn't sega asking for a unique one, it was nintendo asking for an exclusive port

    • @kekeke8988
      @kekeke8988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So why do Hard Corps and Bloodlines use all new assets. They neither look nor play like total rehashes of Contra III and Super CV. Konami went above and beyond for seemingly no reason.

    • @BeerBaron23
      @BeerBaron23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the Genesis runs in a higher res then the SNES, so the assets from the arcade are very easy to port to the Genesis (they share the same res/aspect ratio). Assets/Sprites ported from the arcade to SNES would have to be redrawn.
      Hard Corps and Bloodlines use all new assets as they would have had to be redrawn anyways...

  • @cbake76
    @cbake76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun dumb fact: This game breaks TMNT cartoon continuity. By the time the Turtles met Leatherhead in the cartoon, Baxter Stockman was already a fly -- yet Leatherhead is in this and Baxter is still human.
    Yes, I'm a nerd.

    • @TeHbTeHb
      @TeHbTeHb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baxter was fly but Barney still human

  • @emilyhopemeechem4183
    @emilyhopemeechem4183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adult Nerdy Ninja Gamers!

  • @EarlDogg
    @EarlDogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a veteran of the “Bit Wars” I loved when a Turtles game finally came to my console (Sega Genesis) so I could talk that sh*t to my friends who all had that SNES that my version was better 😂

    • @wesleycrawford7420
      @wesleycrawford7420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The genesis version was never better though.....

    • @thisisJim85
      @thisisJim85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jokes on you. SNES was far superior to the Genesis, despite Sega's propaganda about how Ninen-don't.

  • @zachcouch8654
    @zachcouch8654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More turtles!!!!!

  • @Kenny-wr3ky
    @Kenny-wr3ky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...Hoverboards don't go over water! You gotta have POWER!

  • @Ricardotorres-uc2gp
    @Ricardotorres-uc2gp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Conker bad fur day Lets play

  • @Comandanterufian
    @Comandanterufian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Castlevania SOTN was realesed on PlayStation and Saturn

    • @teecakes
      @teecakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saturn version you could play as Maria and Richter, and had TONS of other bonuses

  • @themadplotter
    @themadplotter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Boss Crush"

  • @Ashkihyena
    @Ashkihyena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And now both games are on the Cowabunga Collection, awesome.

  • @ultrairrelevantnobody1862
    @ultrairrelevantnobody1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They're both equally great. No need to fight over two old games.

  • @trippyskullz6669
    @trippyskullz6669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shmups on genesis is due to BLAST PROCESSING

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More like third party support from companies who produced those types of games, like Toaplan, Technosoft, Compile, and a few other smaller developers.

  • @sawtoothmygrin
    @sawtoothmygrin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Turtles in Time all the wayyyyy!

  • @scotttalarczyk5870
    @scotttalarczyk5870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cinemassacre should do more videos like this! SNES vs Genesis games side by side play through. This is awesome 👏

  • @xSABRET00TH
    @xSABRET00TH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hyperstone heist whooped his ass lmaoooo

  • @truedashfan
    @truedashfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the best turtles game of all time turtles in time