It’s hilarious to me that people pay all this money for these “designer dogs”. Back in the day a mixed breed dog was called a mutt and you could get them for damn near free.😂😂
I had a sheep dog, poodle cross growing up. Got him for not much, he lived almost 20 years. I saw someone selling them on kijiji for $1700. It’s ridiculous, even though mutts are better dogs.
@eddiesaviarycom-fu9me it has nothing to do with spaying or neutering, which by the way is a responsible way to control our domestic animal population. Back in the day, mutts were everywhere before leash laws were thankfully applied. Dogs were allowed roam free, and inevitably they would mate with other dogs that roamed free. These mixed breed puppies were given away or euthanized or, sometimes disposed of in cruel ways…
@@justinturner8278 Mutts are not "better" dogs, in any sense of the word... That may be your opinion and you're entitled to think that but you're objectively wrong. Your personal experience is not evidence to your claim that mutts are inherently better dogs. I'm sure that you have had many great experiences with mutts, as have I, and it's not to say that they are bad dogs, by any means. But in reality, mutts are inferior to purebreds in general, overall, and it's cruel for us to breed them, in many cases. Unfortunately, because of us humans, selfishly wanting to create new breeds for their looks, behavioral characteristics, or their specific performance instincts, we have carelessly caused a lot of suffering in these dogs with major health issues and complications and unfavorable behaviors, due to mixing different conflicting characteristics and natures. It's incredibly irresponsible and inhumane to either deliberately create these new "breeds" or to allow the interbreeding to take place between unspayed and neutered dogs, especially when we know the damage it causes and continue to do it anyway for superficial and/or financial reasons.
I had a puppy who was diagnosed with parvo. Our vet told us it could be from a great many of places but likely it was in our yard. Long story, she lived thru it but it was a year of struggle putting weight on her. She lived a healthy 13 yrs but every once in a while she would drop her weight. Never could figure that out.
We had a puppy that caught parvo and he made it the only thing was one of his eyes turned blue.the vet said a dog can catch parvo by smelling other dogs poop especially if it the poop was from an infected dog
My Rottweiler puppy got Parvo and the Vet saved her life with an IV with fluids and nutrients. I tried paying him and he wouldn't let me. Riley had to be put to sleep many years later because of a cancer tumor. Broke my family's hearts.
When I worked at an animal clinic if there were any dogs with Parvo, all staff had to disinfect their shoes if they went in the kennels. Parvo is contagious! and stays in the local area in dirt or grass.
Yes I had. A Dalmatian back in 1994 that had her first litter of 12 Dalmatian Puppies and at exactly 6 weeks old parvo took the lives of only two I immediately took them too Veterean ASAP they were admitted in hospital under Iv and medication sadly it still took their lives ... We were Renting Home and property and was told We could have our 3 older dogs No problem they would be Fine had a fenced in yard and outdoor guess house and attached room were the mom and puppies were .. The landlord knew the property had previously had A Parvo Problem there and Neglected to Inform Us knowing we raised Pups for resale .. This caused the lives of two all others were fine so goes to show you the same with that pup .. Property Owner Assumed that Parvo was just a seasonal once in so many extended years virus.. Not true Parvo lives in grounds and on any thing it comes in contact with for years... I took and bleac the room out and bleach the concrete area he let me moved ASAP due to health of my dogs and Me not wanting anyone else’s pups to die .. I saved four pups not sold for liability purposes I always do then after all as been picked up and paid in full and waiting my grace period.. But with these I kindly and willingly told all new owners what had happened and that I took them to vet for testing... shots.. worming and complete checkup... Due to the fact Two got Parvo I gave them the choice to back out and if they still wanted their pup I extended the grace period to 30 days if they developed Parvo by some reason but lefted the original grace period the same if anything other than Parvo happened .. I felt I needed to give them the 30 day grace on Parvo to make them feel Protected and I put myself in their shoes if I was purchasing one that the owner be open and honest and held liability on my pup.. I don’t want my reputations Love and care for my pups to be ruined ................ ............ As for the four pups that were held back not sold like others I keep them a additional 2 weeks after 30 day period then the potential buyers on list by availability were contacted then too see if they was still interested in a pup and was given a discount on those pups ... keeping those pups keeps you from getting sued and having a happy buyer and keeps your reputation in good with all buyers future buyers and they will give you a good reference this is how I want to be treated, I want good honest relationships with all my Buyers....it’s worth taking a small lost on those last four instead of being out thousands and court cost by trying to cover up lies. Lies I don’t want to be apart of and I rather profit a little , rather than major and still lose it by not being Honest... Honest is your Best Policy......
Have to disagree with the ruling as yes it was a short incubation but VCA says 3-7 days so that means that the puppy could have picked it up when with the plantiffs.
Yes, it could have. But in civil court, the judge rules by what is MOST likely. It is different than a criminal trial where the standard of proof is “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
@@juliecranford534this isn’t most likely though. There’s no evidence and it could just as easily have come from their own shoes after looking for other dogs, from the vet. Literally anywhere. It’s not most likely it came from the defendant
Dogs can get parvo very quickly and die within days. My daughter got a puppy in AL and brought home to MI. All other puppies in that litter died of parvo. Ours was fine. We took it to vet and got necessary shots right away.
This is a tough one. I’ve nursed nearly 20 dogs through parvo (I run a rescue) and there is really no way to tell where it came from here. Parvo can show up within days and kill a dog within days. I have a major issue with the vet for euthanizing the dog without even trying because it’s absolutely survivable, especially if caught early. I’ve only lost 5 dogs out of all that I’ve cared for and those 5 were far along when I got them. I imagine that the vet told them the cost of treatment and they chose to euthanize. But it could have come from anywhere, honestly, because it can live in the soil and untreated places for years. The puppy could have picked it up from the vet the day they got the dog or it could have come from the breeder and the breeder is lying. It’s impossible to know. More often than not, though, it comes from the breeder
@eddiesaviarycom-fu9me I don’t know where you live but we have lots of breeders around here infected with parvo. It gets in the soil and it’s there for years
My dog was 2 weeks old when i got him and got parvo I paid $275 with a 50/50 chance of survival, he lived 12 more years and I never have regret spending that money.
Stationed in Korea, my husband & I bought two German shepherd puppies from a disgraceful “pet store” for 250$, they we both in a small cage & covered in poop & pee 5 days after buying them one of the babies died from parvo :( we’re now back in the states with his brother & 7 years later. So IMO yes not all dogs in the litter can catch it
Would never pay 500$ for a tiny mix dog. Never. Go to the rescue instead. Hate private puppy mills with ugly mix dogs. Criminals. So many dogs needs homes
🙌!!! My cousins dog got parvo. She couldn’t afford vet care. She slept in the tub with him, made sure he was ingesting baby food and water. She had to force feed him that stuff. But after a week he pulled through.
One of my dogs had parvo I went to tractor supply administered the parvo shot myself and nursed her back to health by giving her gatorade and keeping her away from my other dogs. She is healthy and doing amazing so glad I was able to get rid of the virus.
@leggs4113 what!? You're a huge no no for trying to correct me. I did what I did and I don't regret it bc I still have my dog. Most vet clinics charge over 2000 just to end up putting them down. You're dumb AF GTF off my comment
The defendant has a good point. They could very well have picked up parvo somewhere and were carriers of it. They did see and expose that puppy a few days before purchase, giving it time to effect the puppy and then test positive a few days after bringing the puppy home. If the defendant other dogs didn't have parvo, then I vote the parvo did come from the buyers, via transfer..
The fact that her puppies have ear mites and worms means she is a bad breeder, because they can only have come from the mother dog and therefore she is not de-worming her dog, nor giving it anti-parasite drops, so where does she get off asking for $500 when she is not forking out the slightest cent, and aren't puppies supposed to be sold with a certificate of health, so where was that, oh that's right it would have cost her money to get that from a vet, which she didn't want to do?...
Second options take time and this little puppy was against the clock. Unfortunately, I don’t think anything would have helped her. At 2 pounds parvo was a death sentence 😢
Lol. Why is Douglas - the baliff sleeves so tight? Im knit picking. But everytime i see him- i think he's about to strip & give a show . Wishful thinking on my part
I hate all these makeshift breeders. If y’all want a dog- go to a rescue or a registered/vetted breeder. Too many folks out here getting dogs from people who have no experience with dogs nor can they guarantee the health of the animal.
Wouldn't really recommend a rescue because they lie about the dogs breed all the time to unsuspecting people who have no experience with said breed and also their history is mostly unknown. Vetted Breeders though, totally recommend.
Parvo, like distemper, can be transferred by fomite contamination. Parvo is ubiquitous in the environment, that is but one reason why we vaccinate. It isn't just the parvo, there are intestinal parasites and ear mites too. That reflects very badly on the breeder.
I've raised purebred rottweilers for the last 21 years and had 3 die from parvo (rottweilers are more affected by parvo than most other breeds). The defendant was absolutely right when she said the plaintiff's could have contracted the virus while dog shopping at other kennels that week. A small group of kids stole one of my pups and after offering a reward I was able to recover it after a few days. However, the puppy had been exposed to parvo during that short time period and died after 3 days of me having her back. The parvo lived in my yard for nearly 2 years, even after several treatments and killed 2 more of my dogs during that time. There's no way the parvo came from the defendant's home...the defendant's other dogs (at least one of them) would have certainly tested positive as well. I would bet my bottom dollar the plaintiff's contracted it while dog shopping that week. That's exactly how parvo works.
Also, the dog having worms isn't too much of a surprise. Puppies usually have worms, they get it from the mom, but if they've been dewormed, it's not an issue.
If you keep up with worm treatments for the parents and are responsible, worms are not common. Parvovirus is deadly and something completely different. It can stay in the soil for decades and parvo in this case has an incubation period that doesn’t match very well.
Absolutely not. No puppy should have worms. Puppies get worms from their mother. So the mother should not have worms! If you're a responsible owner, no pet should have worms! The defendent should NOT be breeding. No excuses.
they have parvo in their house now!! They got parvo at the vet's. ....when the other pups have NO parvo, it's almost guaranteed proof that it did NOT come from the breeder's place. Judge Milian needs to study up on animal issues.
Just another unethical breeder, breeding 2 random pets together and throwing micro and teacup on the name to try and get the most money they can. She didn't even treat the dogs for parasites (which takes a breeder a couple bucks to treat). Parvo can literally come from anywhere. So many pet people instantly take their pups to pet stores, groomers, let them run around vet floors, take them to dog parks, etc right after they get them. Within 3-4 days, they can easily show signs of getting it. The smaller the dog, the faster it shows after catching it. Because the pup was showing signs of parvo of around 2 days after having the dog, then yes, I do believe it came from her. Add the fact that there was a huge case of worms, that pup never had a fighting chance. This is what a BYB is.
I feel as if the judge got this one wrong. Its unlikely for just one of the litter to get parvo. I'm betting when they took the dog to the vet the first day is when it picked up the parvo.
Having only one pup from a litter pick up parvo is very unusual. Not an expert so I can't say it's impossible but I've never heard of it. As much as I felt sympathy for the plaintiffs, they didn't meet the burden of proof and should have lost the case.
@@hottuna2006 it happens occasionally but since parvo is so contagious, its very unlikely for just one pup to get it unless they picked up elsewhere. I have a feeling that the pup picked it up elsewhere because of that.
I got 5 puppies shipped across country by a special shipper and there were more dogs on the trip to other homes across state lines . When my puppies arrived one was sick the following day I did test all my 5 puppies and only one had parvo I immediately went to the vet within two days all the 9 week puppies got parvo but initially for 48hrs only one had it and I believe it did come from the shipper. I later found out through the breeder that the day my puppies were shipped was the only day the vet could see them for the health certificate and he had given them their parvo and set of shots that morning so it shouldn’t have been shipped there wasn’t enough time for the parvo shot to protect my puppies. Only two of my puppies didn’t get parvo and one was 10 months old show champion he had all his vaccines up to date and a 12 week old puppy also had all his shots up to day unlike my three 9 week old puppies that were defenseless. The vet treated them and wasn’t sure they survived but with much pedialyte and ambers naturals tinctures paxxaid and vibactra they all survived I saved all my dogs and it cost me less than 100.00 lessons learned never ship your dog go and pick it up it is not worth the trouble
Parvo lives on a human’s hair and that vet could have come into contact with parvo and given it to the puppy when she held it. My dad, a veterinarian, healed many a dog from parvo with correct treatment.
I saved both my puppies that had parvovirus! I literally gave them pedialyte, by day 3 they were up moving around drinking water and eating, by day 5 they were driving me crazy again 😂❤
This is just a PSA to ANYONE who needs it the timeline for parvo is 2 WEEKS 1 week for your dog to get it and start to show signs the first 3 days of week 2 will define wether your dog dies or lives make sure they DO NOT stop drinking water and Pedialyte FORCE them to drink it if you have to but they NEED to be hydrated that is the main reason parvo dogs die and maseca helps build stomach constantly keep where they are CLEAN
I’ve had multiple pups that had Parvo, and they survived. Dehydration is what usually causes a death so idk why the Vet said there wasn’t anything he could do. The treatment is fluids, meds, and rest.
People go on a rant about their story which is irrelevant. She needs facts, people waste time on editorializing. What they think, what they feel, what they were told by someone who's not there, what they suspect happened, etc. is completely irrelevant and she needs to stop them from continuing to speak.
How did the daughter in law get the defendant's number? Also, I'm pretty sure the parvo didn't come from the defendant. No way only one dog has parvo, and none of the other dogs in the house did. The plaintiffs being advised not to get another dog for a year, should have been evidence enought that it didn't come from the defendant.
I had a litter of puppies once. 4 got parvo but the rest of the litter was fine. So totally possible it came from the breeder. I was told that flies can carry parvo too if they landed on poop from a parvo infected dog. I was super careful with them as well, disinfecting everything with bleach. But can't stop flies.. I only lost one puppy from the 4 that were infected, and we really tried with that one pup. Daily IVs, anti nausea shot from the vet, forced feeding. It just wasn't enough 😢
Doug telling the man that he's sorry that the man "will be without a companion for a while." Meanwhile his wife is standing there next to them thinking: "What am I? Chop liver ?" Sound like the plaintiffs have one nasty DIL that stuck her nose in where it didn't belong. Maybe the defendant should find out where the DIL works and the send the DIL's company HR department the nasty letter/text she sent.
Would've been good to see the proof of the other puppy, the granddaughter's one. She only showed the parents and the Mike puppy. Also nothing regarding the worm. Shouldn't they have been wormed?
I so agree!! I've been through this after my son brought his buddies dog to my home..All 6 of my small breed dogs were infected..It was during Covid so I treated all of them at home..I lost 2 of my 3lb Chihuahuas bc they were just too small,,,but I saved the other 4..It's hard work but it was MY JOB to take care of them
Harvey, I'm all for adopting dogs. One time, I adopted a puppy from a shelter. She died two days later due to parvo. I've adopted one other dog since then. Idk, I feel a certain type of way about it all.
Nope parvo is highly contagious if none of the litter had parvo, that puppy could’ve picked it up anywhere. Parvo lingers so it could be in their grass from a neighborhood dog. If the vet didn’t try to save the puppy it was because the plaintiffs didn’t want to pay for the procedure. It isn’t cheap, it’s a process. If you love your pet enough, you’ll do it. It’s like cancer. They can absolutely recover with the right relief
Puppies are likely to have worms transferred from the mother. That's why you always want to deworm them. Nothing dangerous at all, as long as you take care of it.
I seldom disagree with this judge; however, in this case I do. I believe the defendant made a good case that the virus could have been picked up, by the buyers, at another location (I actually had this happen at my home, almost 50 years ago). In my opinion there was actually more evidence that the virus could have transferred off the clothing of the buyers, than had originated in the home where the pups came from. I would have dismissed claims from both sides and tell them that there wasn't enough proof for where the virus came from.
You think the Judge Millian is stupid, a fellow dog owner who has owned many dogs. You have no idea where dogs can parvo. They can get in the breeders back yard.
As much as I felt sorry for the plaintiffs, they definitely didn't meet the burden of proof. None of the breeder's other pups having it should have been enough for improbability of plaintiff's claim.
@@trekgirl65she is often stupid. 🤷♂️lmao There’s no proof it came from her house. If they had proof other dogs from her had it( like testimony from other buyers) then sure but they had nothing. Parvo can come from anywhere
Mmmm I don't see how the puppy died after 5 days if it already had parvo before they got the puppy....seems more likely to me that the plaintiff picked up parvo when looking at other dogs after paying the deposit. And all the pups are fine....strange and sad 😢
Once upon a time a mixed breed puppy was called a 'mongrel' or 'mutt' and was worth nothing, nowadays, they give it a fancy name and charge a fortune, yet it's still a mongrel and you can't breed with it, expecting more puppies identical to the parent, because as with any 'mutt' you never know what you are going to get...
No dog is worth more than a few hundred dollars However mutts are ALWAYS genetically healthier and usually cheaper to care for long term so they are worth it.
Holy sh!t. You don’t have to put a dog down cuz it has parvo! As long as you keep them totally segregated you can help them through it. My cousins dog got parvo. She loved that dog. A WEEK of sleeping in the bathtub with him, making him eat baby food, making him take in fluids. He made it through.
This pup could have totally picked up parvo at the vet. People used to think it was cute to allow their puppy to walk around on the floors in the waiting room. Would you put your newborn on a daycare floor?
Eeh, its highly unlikely it came from the defendant. I definitely think it came from the Plaintiffs. People are not too smart when it comes to new puppies. They'll set them right down in any grass to potty. Have to use your brain... They're too little for that.
I would have awarded the harassment because the daughter got the womans phone number from the parents. If not for that she would not have been able to harass her.
Every "real" breeder I've had dealings with put their self to shame. Dogs were sick, broken tail, you name it. The backyard breeders were more honest, cared about the dogs over money, and I never had an issue.
the pup likely got the virus from the vet...and rescues spay and neuter so young these pups are exposed to it at the spay and neuter clinic which is exactly what happened to my neighbor whos rescue puppy died of parvo 5 days after they had it. Rescue acknowledges pup may have bee nexposed at spay neuter clinic . They reimbused cost of puppy but not the 2k in vet bills
The veterinarian of the defendant stated the dog were "chihuahuas," not chihuahua mixes. I am a bit suspicious of her vet's statement and the dog the vet actually examined.
My puppy I got from a friend caught parvo and I took her to the vet and $450 later she was fine!! They said I brought her in just in time to treat her, if I had waited another day she wouldnt have made it. But it is treatable. Idk why the vet told them it wasnt treatable.
Understand that the daughter-in-law harass that lady and everything like that but the daughter-in-law's not the one getting sued for the countersuit the plaintiffs are in and they didn't write that to the ladies so her case for them automatically goes out the window because she's not doing the right person for harassment
No one stops to consider the pup got it at the vets office. We always keep our pups on our lap in the waiting room. People bring sick Parvo dogs in to the vet for finding out what's wrong with their canine.
@@monaczaplewsli157 That's what I was thinking, I have never seen someone go behind all the animals cleaning and wiping down everywhere. I've seen dogs come in the waiting room, be called back and another person come in and sit with their dog in the same spot the last dog was.
When pitbull owners are idiots and their dogs attack people/dogs, they're going to lose. It has nothing to do with a judge hating pitbulls. Would you rather the pit owners win every time? Is it a "sob story" when dogs/people are maimed or killed by them? Your attitude is why people don't like pitbulls and their owners.
She doesn’t really hate pit bulls. She has issues with crappy dog owners, and respects the fact that a pit bull can cause way more damage than a yorkie.
I disagree with the ruling it doesnt make sense that nun of the other dogs in the litter got parvo but that dog did. I think they gave it to the dog from picking up other dogs.
Pay the market price asked for a puppy from a reputable breeder. If you are looking for a bargain the adopt. Good dogs from reputable breeders cost close to, and more than, $1K.
Shelters our bursting at the seams with animals that need a home. Breeding is annoying in that way (esp back yd breeding)and so are the people who choose that route.
Sorry. But when they did the first fecal it’s not how it works. If it had parvo when it was purchased it would’ve been visible on the first sample. They don’t just “pick and choose “ what they see. And they should’ve went to a different vet bc it absolutely is curable especially if they took it the day after they “noticed symptoms”. The dog I promise you wasn’t locked in the house the whole time they had it.
Just for fun look up how much they are selling dogs for now. Some designer breeds at $3,000 and up. And the smaller they are the more expensive. It’s gotten out of hand. Check out micro puppies. You will be shocked
@ckwind1971 some pure breeds Def have health issues, I've only ever had Labrador Retrievers, German Shepherd and 1 malinois who were pure breed. I've also never paid more than $450, 1 time, for a pup with papers the rest were $200-$350
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It’s hilarious to me that people pay all this money for these “designer dogs”. Back in the day a mixed breed dog was called a mutt and you could get them for damn near free.😂😂
I had a sheep dog, poodle cross growing up. Got him for not much, he lived almost 20 years. I saw someone selling them on kijiji for $1700. It’s ridiculous, even though mutts are better dogs.
@eddiesaviarycom-fu9me it has nothing to do with spaying or neutering, which by the way is a responsible way to control our domestic animal population. Back in the day, mutts were everywhere before leash laws were thankfully applied. Dogs were allowed roam free, and inevitably they would mate with other dogs that roamed free. These mixed breed puppies were given away or euthanized or, sometimes disposed of in cruel ways…
@@justinturner8278 Mutts are not "better" dogs, in any sense of the word... That may be your opinion and you're entitled to think that but you're objectively wrong. Your personal experience is not evidence to your claim that mutts are inherently better dogs. I'm sure that you have had many great experiences with mutts, as have I, and it's not to say that they are bad dogs, by any means. But in reality, mutts are inferior to purebreds in general, overall, and it's cruel for us to breed them, in many cases. Unfortunately, because of us humans, selfishly wanting to create new breeds for their looks, behavioral characteristics, or their specific performance instincts, we have carelessly caused a lot of suffering in these dogs with major health issues and complications and unfavorable behaviors, due to mixing different conflicting characteristics and natures. It's incredibly irresponsible and inhumane to either deliberately create these new "breeds" or to allow the interbreeding to take place between unspayed and neutered dogs, especially when we know the damage it causes and continue to do it anyway for superficial and/or financial reasons.
A lot of the time you could get them for FREE
Not all mutts are better dogs
I had a puppy who was diagnosed with parvo. Our vet told us it could be from a great many of places but likely it was in our yard. Long story, she lived thru it but it was a year of struggle putting weight on her. She lived a healthy 13 yrs but every once in a while she would drop her weight. Never could figure that out.
We had a puppy that caught parvo and he made it the only thing was one of his eyes turned blue.the vet said a dog can catch parvo by smelling other dogs poop especially if it the poop was from an infected dog
@@judyelmer2257 yep I've learned that as well since then. It's like surviving scarlet fever or something for us. Nasty business for the pup.
My Rottweiler puppy got Parvo and the Vet saved her life with an IV with fluids and nutrients. I tried paying him and he wouldn't let me. Riley had to be put to sleep many years later because of a cancer tumor. Broke my family's hearts.
Sorry but an i.v. of fluid and nutrients would not be enough.he had to give the dog antibiotics
“It’s over…you lost!” Damn Doug 😂
When I worked at an animal clinic if there were any dogs with Parvo, all staff had to disinfect their shoes if they went in the kennels. Parvo is contagious! and stays in the local area in dirt or grass.
Yes it can live for a long time in the right conditions
Yes I had. A Dalmatian back in 1994 that had her first litter of 12 Dalmatian Puppies and at exactly 6 weeks old parvo took the lives of only two I immediately took them too Veterean ASAP they were admitted in hospital under Iv and medication sadly it still took their lives ... We were Renting Home and property and was told We could have our 3 older dogs No problem they would be Fine had a fenced in yard and outdoor guess house and attached room were the mom and puppies were .. The landlord knew the property had previously had A Parvo Problem there and Neglected to Inform Us knowing we raised Pups for resale .. This caused the lives of two all others were fine so goes to show you the same with that pup .. Property Owner Assumed that Parvo was just a seasonal once in so many extended years virus.. Not true Parvo lives in grounds and on any thing it comes in contact with for years... I took and bleac the room out and bleach the concrete area he let me moved ASAP due to health of my dogs and Me not wanting anyone else’s pups to die .. I saved four pups not sold for liability purposes I always do then after all as been picked up and paid in full and waiting my grace period.. But with these I kindly and willingly told all new owners what had happened and that I took them to vet for testing... shots.. worming and complete checkup... Due to the fact Two got Parvo I gave them the choice to back out and if they still wanted their pup I extended the grace period to 30 days if they developed Parvo by some reason but lefted the original grace period the same if anything other than Parvo happened .. I felt I needed to give them the 30 day grace on Parvo to make them feel Protected and I put myself in their shoes if I was purchasing one that the owner be open and honest and held liability on my pup.. I don’t want my reputations Love and care for my pups to be ruined ................ ............
As for the four pups that were held back not sold like others I keep them a additional 2 weeks after 30 day period then the potential buyers on list by availability were contacted then too see if they was still interested in a pup and was given a discount on those pups ... keeping those pups keeps you from getting sued and having a happy buyer and keeps your reputation in good with all buyers future buyers and they will give you a good reference this is how I want to be treated, I want good honest relationships with all my Buyers....it’s worth taking a small lost on those last four instead of being out thousands and court cost by trying to cover up lies. Lies I don’t want to be apart of and I rather profit a little , rather than major and still lose it by not being Honest... Honest is your Best Policy......
I just found out recently that parvovirus can stay in a yard 7-9 years!!!!
Have to disagree with the ruling as yes it was a short incubation but VCA says 3-7 days so that means that the puppy could have picked it up when with the plantiffs.
No wrong, the puppy got it from the other animals, or the breeder is lying.
Yes, it could have. But in civil court, the judge rules by what is MOST likely. It is different than a criminal trial where the standard of proof is “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
I think it said the plaintiffs took the animal to doctor within a day or two. Even at the minimum 3 days that would be in breeders care
@@juliecranford534this isn’t most likely though. There’s no evidence and it could just as easily have come from their own shoes after looking for other dogs, from the vet. Literally anywhere. It’s not most likely it came from the defendant
Dogs can get parvo very quickly and die within days. My daughter got a puppy in AL and brought home to MI. All other puppies in that litter died of parvo. Ours was fine. We took it to vet and got necessary shots right away.
This is a tough one. I’ve nursed nearly 20 dogs through parvo (I run a rescue) and there is really no way to tell where it came from here. Parvo can show up within days and kill a dog within days. I have a major issue with the vet for euthanizing the dog without even trying because it’s absolutely survivable, especially if caught early. I’ve only lost 5 dogs out of all that I’ve cared for and those 5 were far along when I got them. I imagine that the vet told them the cost of treatment and they chose to euthanize. But it could have come from anywhere, honestly, because it can live in the soil and untreated places for years. The puppy could have picked it up from the vet the day they got the dog or it could have come from the breeder and the breeder is lying. It’s impossible to know. More often than not, though, it comes from the breeder
I had a dog that survived Parvo. She was a wonderful dog.
I bet they got an estimate for hospitalization and couldn’t afford it so euthanasia was the only other humane option
@eddiesaviarycom-fu9me I don’t know where you live but we have lots of breeders around here infected with parvo. It gets in the soil and it’s there for years
@@chelseac8855 Which is a shame because you don’t have to hospitalize. I’ve always nursed at home.
My dog was 2 weeks old when i got him and got parvo I paid $275 with a 50/50 chance of survival, he lived 12 more years and I never have regret spending that money.
Stationed in Korea, my husband & I bought two German shepherd puppies from a disgraceful “pet store” for 250$, they we both in a small cage & covered in poop & pee
5 days after buying them one of the babies died from parvo :( we’re now back in the states with his brother & 7 years later. So IMO yes not all dogs in the litter can catch it
Never buy dogs from pet stores and don't pay $500 for a mutt. Plenty of free ones at shelters.
@step-n-wolf they rescued them tho from their horrible living situation in the pet store 💔🐕
@@Step-n-Wolf we were in korea, we more got them to save them from that place. It was 250 for both puppies
I love the "" around designer dogs like she thinks its a crazy idea, but she's the one breeding and charging for designer dogs.
Of course you can think it’s crazy or silly but still be about your business…
There's nothing "designer" about her mutts, she just found the right people to sell them to; idiots.
The puppy had ear mites and worms, that seems bad enough to reverse the sale before the Parvo even comes into play.
breeding dogs for sale is such a sick idea
If none of the other pups had Parvo it’s highly unlikely it contracted Parvo before they got it.
I rescued my cat, she was 9 years old, shes the most loving cat ive ever had. Please adopt instead of breed! She cuddles me for hours every night
Would never pay 500$ for a tiny mix dog. Never. Go to the rescue instead. Hate private puppy mills with ugly mix dogs. Criminals. So many dogs needs homes
Do none of these people on this show know that parvo is 60-90% survivable with vet care?
Exactly. I can’t listen to this case
It was stated bybthe judge that the dog probably would have survived if it was older and bigger....a 2lbs puppy could likely die from it
🙌!!! My cousins dog got parvo. She couldn’t afford vet care. She slept in the tub with him, made sure he was ingesting baby food and water. She had to force feed him that stuff. But after a week he pulled through.
beg borrow and steal to save your family...a dog is family...sell the car if needed @@P3rmissionD3ni3d
@@P3rmissionD3ni3dthat is amazing! Glad the pup made it through and props to your cousin
One of my dogs had parvo I went to tractor supply administered the parvo shot myself and nursed her back to health by giving her gatorade and keeping her away from my other dogs. She is healthy and doing amazing so glad I was able to get rid of the virus.
I’m guessing you meant parvo vaccine as there is no actual shot to treat parvo. That’s a huge no no. You should never give vaccines to a sick animal.
@leggs4113 what!? You're a huge no no for trying to correct me. I did what I did and I don't regret it bc I still have my dog. Most vet clinics charge over 2000 just to end up putting them down. You're dumb AF GTF off my comment
The defendant has a good point. They could very well have picked up parvo somewhere and were carriers of it. They did see and expose that puppy a few days before purchase, giving it time to effect the puppy and then test positive a few days after bringing the puppy home. If the defendant other dogs didn't have parvo, then I vote the parvo did come from the buyers, via transfer..
Picked it up and then died within 5 days?
Having a litter of only 3 puppies is a red flag.
@kyled2329 Smaller breeds having small litters are very common.
@@kyled2329 they went to see the puppy days before and put down a deposit. Puppy may have been exposed 7 to 10 days prior to passing.
The fact that her puppies have ear mites and worms means she is a bad breeder, because they can only have come from the mother dog and therefore she is not de-worming her dog, nor giving it anti-parasite drops, so where does she get off asking for $500 when she is not forking out the slightest cent, and aren't puppies supposed to be sold with a certificate of health, so where was that, oh that's right it would have cost her money to get that from a vet, which she didn't want to do?...
The plaintiff looks like he's got parvo 😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
SAVaGE…you said you wanted it over and it’s over…you lose! 😂😂😂😂I live for the end! Lol
I wish pet owners would obtain second opinions. Puppies can be saved with IV treatments. Plain yogurt can help with dehydration, too. How sad.
Second options take time and this little puppy was against the clock. Unfortunately, I don’t think anything would have helped her. At 2 pounds parvo was a death sentence 😢
Lol. Why is Douglas - the baliff sleeves so tight? Im knit picking. But everytime i see him- i think he's about to strip & give a show . Wishful thinking on my part
I hope the defendant sued their daughter
Worms and ear mites aren’t a huge deal. However, if they took it out in public before shots……that’s on them!
They said they didn’t . Soooooo
ITS THE WAY THE PLAINTIFF WEARS HIS GLASSES FOR ME IM DEAD
I hate all these makeshift breeders. If y’all want a dog- go to a rescue or a registered/vetted breeder. Too many folks out here getting dogs from people who have no experience with dogs nor can they guarantee the health of the animal.
Wouldn't really recommend a rescue because they lie about the dogs breed all the time to unsuspecting people who have no experience with said breed and also their history is mostly unknown. Vetted Breeders though, totally recommend.
“It’s over u lost “ . Y is this man like this lmaoooo😩😩😩😩
Parvo, like distemper, can be transferred by fomite contamination. Parvo is ubiquitous in the environment, that is but one reason why we vaccinate. It isn't just the parvo, there are intestinal parasites and ear mites too. That reflects very badly on the breeder.
I've raised purebred rottweilers for the last 21 years and had 3 die from parvo (rottweilers are more affected by parvo than most other breeds). The defendant was absolutely right when she said the plaintiff's could have contracted the virus while dog shopping at other kennels that week. A small group of kids stole one of my pups and after offering a reward I was able to recover it after a few days. However, the puppy had been exposed to parvo during that short time period and died after 3 days of me having her back. The parvo lived in my yard for nearly 2 years, even after several treatments and killed 2 more of my dogs during that time. There's no way the parvo came from the defendant's home...the defendant's other dogs (at least one of them) would have certainly tested positive as well. I would bet my bottom dollar the plaintiff's contracted it while dog shopping that week. That's exactly how parvo works.
Yes Rotts and pits are more prone to it.
Also, the dog having worms isn't too much of a surprise. Puppies usually have worms, they get it from the mom, but if they've been dewormed, it's not an issue.
Not a surprise if you get the puppy from some just worried about money or irresponsible
Parvo is not worms, and there was no need to PTS, for there is treatment and caught early enough, they will survive.
@@trekgirl65 I've brought one of mine through it years ago. It wasn't easy, but I did it.
If you keep up with worm treatments for the parents and are responsible, worms are not common. Parvovirus is deadly and something completely different. It can stay in the soil for decades and parvo in this case has an incubation period that doesn’t match very well.
Absolutely not. No puppy should have worms. Puppies get worms from their mother. So the mother should not have worms! If you're a responsible owner, no pet should have worms! The defendent should NOT be breeding. No excuses.
they have parvo in their house now!! They got parvo at the vet's. ....when the other pups have NO parvo, it's almost guaranteed proof that it did NOT come from the breeder's place. Judge Milian needs to study up on animal issues.
Just another unethical breeder, breeding 2 random pets together and throwing micro and teacup on the name to try and get the most money they can. She didn't even treat the dogs for parasites (which takes a breeder a couple bucks to treat).
Parvo can literally come from anywhere. So many pet people instantly take their pups to pet stores, groomers, let them run around vet floors, take them to dog parks, etc right after they get them. Within 3-4 days, they can easily show signs of getting it. The smaller the dog, the faster it shows after catching it.
Because the pup was showing signs of parvo of around 2 days after having the dog, then yes, I do believe it came from her. Add the fact that there was a huge case of worms, that pup never had a fighting chance. This is what a BYB is.
I'm surprised that so many people don't understand parvo
Why would they if they’ve never dealt with it?
I feel as if the judge got this one wrong. Its unlikely for just one of the litter to get parvo. I'm betting when they took the dog to the vet the first day is when it picked up the parvo.
Having only one pup from a litter pick up parvo is very unusual. Not an expert so I can't say it's impossible but I've never heard of it. As much as I felt sympathy for the plaintiffs, they didn't meet the burden of proof and should have lost the case.
@@hottuna2006 it happens occasionally but since parvo is so contagious, its very unlikely for just one pup to get it unless they picked up elsewhere. I have a feeling that the pup picked it up elsewhere because of that.
I got 5 puppies shipped across country by a special shipper and there were more dogs on the trip to other homes across state lines . When my puppies arrived one was sick the following day I did test all my 5 puppies and only one had parvo I immediately went to the vet within two days all the 9 week puppies got parvo but initially for 48hrs only one had it and I believe it did come from the shipper. I later found out through the breeder that the day my puppies were shipped was the only day the vet could see them for the health certificate and he had given them their parvo and set of shots that morning so it shouldn’t have been shipped there wasn’t enough time for the parvo shot to protect my puppies. Only two of my puppies didn’t get parvo and one was 10 months old show champion he had all his vaccines up to date and a 12 week old puppy also had all his shots up to day unlike my three 9 week old puppies that were defenseless. The vet treated them and wasn’t sure they survived but with much pedialyte and ambers naturals tinctures paxxaid and vibactra they all survived I saved all my dogs and it cost me less than 100.00 lessons learned never ship your dog go and pick it up it is not worth the trouble
@@hottuna2006your wrong
I never got an unhealthy puppy or cat because I adopted them from shelters. They and more had shots but shelters did bleach trays inside and outside..
They took the dog to the Vet the day they picked it up, so they could got it from there
Parvo lives on a human’s hair and that vet could have come into contact with parvo and given it to the puppy when she held it. My dad, a veterinarian, healed many a dog from parvo with correct treatment.
I saved both my puppies that had parvovirus! I literally gave them pedialyte, by day 3 they were up moving around drinking water and eating, by day 5 they were driving me crazy again 😂❤
I wish all the comments about how y'all nursed your dogs through parvo could put pics for me to fawn over "awwwww" God bless you all
This is just a PSA to ANYONE who needs it the timeline for parvo is 2 WEEKS 1 week for your dog to get it and start to show signs the first 3 days of week 2 will define wether your dog dies or lives make sure they DO NOT stop drinking water and Pedialyte FORCE them to drink it if you have to but they NEED to be hydrated that is the main reason parvo dogs die and maseca helps build stomach constantly keep where they are CLEAN
I’ve had multiple pups that had Parvo, and they survived. Dehydration is what usually causes a death so idk why the Vet said there wasn’t anything he could do. The treatment is fluids, meds, and rest.
Why did they go to a different vet each time? Seems rather odd and makes it completely possible they picked it up at one of the vets.
1:40 The judge does this too often. She will ask you want happened in two words into your story she’ll ask you another question.
Tried telling y'all. Now look at you saying the exact same thing. I deserve an apology plus adrian you were right.
She loves to interrupt and then loves to yell at people for interrupting her
you'd make a bad judge then if you can't ask clarifying or follow up questions on the spot.
People go on a rant about their story which is irrelevant. She needs facts, people waste time on editorializing. What they think, what they feel, what they were told by someone who's not there, what they suspect happened, etc. is completely irrelevant and she needs to stop them from continuing to speak.
How did the daughter in law get the defendant's number? Also, I'm pretty sure the parvo didn't come from the defendant. No way only one dog has parvo, and none of the other dogs in the house did. The plaintiffs being advised not to get another dog for a year, should have been evidence enought that it didn't come from the defendant.
The dog didn't die of parvo 4 days after it was found in it and the put it down, there's a difference
I thought the same thing,it didn't die from the parvo in 4 days,as soon as the vet found it,they had it put down.
I believe the defendant was that sweet and concerned. There are no winners in this case
I had a litter of puppies once. 4 got parvo but the rest of the litter was fine. So totally possible it came from the breeder. I was told that flies can carry parvo too if they landed on poop from a parvo infected dog. I was super careful with them as well, disinfecting everything with bleach. But can't stop flies.. I only lost one puppy from the 4 that were infected, and we really tried with that one pup. Daily IVs, anti nausea shot from the vet, forced feeding. It just wasn't enough 😢
Doug telling the man that he's sorry that the man "will be without a companion for a while." Meanwhile his wife is standing there next to them thinking: "What am I? Chop liver ?"
Sound like the plaintiffs have one nasty DIL that stuck her nose in where it didn't belong. Maybe the defendant should find out where the DIL works and the send the DIL's company HR department the nasty letter/text she sent.
Would've been good to see the proof of the other puppy, the granddaughter's one. She only showed the parents and the Mike puppy. Also nothing regarding the worm. Shouldn't they have been wormed?
We had a dog that had Parvo and the vet got her through. It’s cost us $1K to get her through.
She is a miniature Red Pitbull, (25LBS)
I so agree!! I've been through this after my son brought his buddies dog to my home..All 6 of my small breed dogs were infected..It was during Covid so I treated all of them at home..I lost 2 of my 3lb Chihuahuas bc they were just too small,,,but I saved the other 4..It's hard work but it was MY JOB to take care of them
possible but VERY unlikely. If one pup has parvo, all the pups will have parvo.
Cats and dogs ,kittens,puppies Never been to a Vet and Live for almost ever😮😮,loose dogs
Harvey, I'm all for adopting dogs. One time, I adopted a puppy from a shelter. She died two days later due to parvo. I've adopted one other dog since then. Idk, I feel a certain type of way about it all.
Nope parvo is highly contagious if none of the litter had parvo, that puppy could’ve picked it up anywhere. Parvo lingers so it could be in their grass from a neighborhood dog. If the vet didn’t try to save the puppy it was because the plaintiffs didn’t want to pay for the procedure. It isn’t cheap, it’s a process. If you love your pet enough, you’ll do it. It’s like cancer. They can absolutely recover with the right relief
Why isn't the seller required to give the puppy a clean bill of health, that's mad to me!
The lady couldn’t just stop blabbering.
I think it could be they carried it from looking at other puppies, it’s so hard to tell. I feel bad for everyone involved honestly.
Well how do we know someone else wasn’t looking at the puppies and gave it to them; you just don’t know.
I feel bad for everyone in this case.
Puppies are likely to have worms transferred from the mother. That's why you always want to deworm them. Nothing dangerous at all, as long as you take care of it.
I seldom disagree with this judge; however, in this case I do. I believe the defendant made a good case that the virus could have been picked up, by the buyers, at another location (I actually had this happen at my home, almost 50 years ago). In my opinion there was actually more evidence that the virus could have transferred off the clothing of the buyers, than had originated in the home where the pups came from. I would have dismissed claims from both sides and tell them that there wasn't enough proof for where the virus came from.
Agree 100% no proof of where it came from.
You think the Judge Millian is stupid, a fellow dog owner who has owned many dogs. You have no idea where dogs can parvo. They can get in the breeders back yard.
@@trekgirl65she's also from a family of contractors and has proven time and time again she doesn't know shit about construction work
As much as I felt sorry for the plaintiffs, they definitely didn't meet the burden of proof. None of the breeder's other pups having it should have been enough for improbability of plaintiff's claim.
@@trekgirl65she is often stupid. 🤷♂️lmao
There’s no proof it came from her house. If they had proof other dogs from her had it( like testimony from other buyers) then sure but they had nothing.
Parvo can come from anywhere
Mmmm I don't see how the puppy died after 5 days if it already had parvo before they got the puppy....seems more likely to me that the plaintiff picked up parvo when looking at other dogs after paying the deposit. And all the pups are fine....strange and sad 😢
The plaintiff's wife has pretty hair.
He does
You have horrible taste lol
It's dyed isn't it
I was getting so annoyed by the male plaintiff because he just would not put his head up. It was so annoying. lol
Parvo is no joke. My mom's dogs had it and the vet would not release them until they got over it.
Once upon a time a mixed breed puppy was called a 'mongrel' or 'mutt' and was worth nothing, nowadays, they give it a fancy name and charge a fortune, yet it's still a mongrel and you can't breed with it, expecting more puppies identical to the parent, because as with any 'mutt' you never know what you are going to get...
No dog is worth more than a few hundred dollars
However mutts are ALWAYS genetically healthier and usually cheaper to care for long term so they are worth it.
This is a case of no one wins! RIP lil pup! Sorry you lost the fight. 😢 Run free lil one!
I wonder why the vet didn’t hospitalize the pup especially since it was a specialty clinic.
Oh come Marilyn, you can't blame a parent for what a grown child says. That's too much.
JM should turn both of them in and she should never get assistance again.
Holy sh!t. You don’t have to put a dog down cuz it has parvo! As long as you keep them totally segregated you can help them through it. My cousins dog got parvo. She loved that dog. A WEEK of sleeping in the bathtub with him, making him eat baby food, making him take in fluids. He made it through.
This pup could have totally picked up parvo at the vet. People used to think it was cute to allow their puppy to walk around on the floors in the waiting room. Would you put your newborn on a daycare floor?
Eeh, its highly unlikely it came from the defendant. I definitely think it came from the Plaintiffs. People are not too smart when it comes to new puppies. They'll set them right down in any grass to potty. Have to use your brain... They're too little for that.
I would have awarded the harassment because the daughter got the womans phone number from the parents. If not for that she would not have been able to harass her.
This is why you do not work in the justice system.
Backyard breeders are what gives real breeders a bad name
Every "real" breeder I've had dealings with put their self to shame. Dogs were sick, broken tail, you name it. The backyard breeders were more honest, cared about the dogs over money, and I never had an issue.
the pup likely got the virus from the vet...and rescues spay and neuter so young these pups are exposed to it at the spay and neuter clinic which is exactly what happened to my neighbor whos rescue puppy died of parvo 5 days after they had it. Rescue acknowledges pup may have bee nexposed at spay neuter clinic . They reimbused cost of puppy but not the 2k in vet bills
I had the human parvo. It was so painful. Years later parvo shows up on my blood work. I dont wish parvo on any living being
The veterinarian of the defendant stated the dog were "chihuahuas," not chihuahua mixes. I am a bit suspicious of her vet's statement and the dog the vet actually examined.
The “redhead “ is a good example of face not matching the age
The plaintiff not the judge. Judge looks great!
My puppy I got from a friend caught parvo and I took her to the vet and $450 later she was fine!! They said I brought her in just in time to treat her, if I had waited another day she wouldnt have made it. But it is treatable. Idk why the vet told them it wasnt treatable.
Understand that the daughter-in-law harass that lady and everything like that but the daughter-in-law's not the one getting sued for the countersuit the plaintiffs are in and they didn't write that to the ladies so her case for them automatically goes out the window because she's not doing the right person for harassment
I think everyone understands that.
And she even admitted that she does too after the judge explain
Yes that’s exactly what was explained in this video. Good job
$500 for a mixed breed puppy?
I do not believe the breeder is responsible. With a puppy that small the incubation period is actually closer to 2 to 3 days!
No one stops to consider the pup got it at the vets office. We always keep our pups on our lap in the waiting room. People bring sick Parvo dogs in to the vet for finding out what's wrong with their canine.
They do not get parvo from a vet's office. For the keep their office and exams tables clean and sanitary.
@@trekgirl65 How would you know!
@@trekgirl65 I have never sat in a vets waiting room and observed a cleaning technician swab the decks after each canine visitation.
@@monaczaplewsli157 That's what I was thinking, I have never seen someone go behind all the animals cleaning and wiping down everywhere. I've seen dogs come in the waiting room, be called back and another person come in and sit with their dog in the same spot the last dog was.
I dislike dog cases. The judge hates Pitbulls and if you have a sob story even when you’re in the wrong theres a good chance you will win!
When pitbull owners are idiots and their dogs attack people/dogs, they're going to lose. It has nothing to do with a judge hating pitbulls. Would you rather the pit owners win every time? Is it a "sob story" when dogs/people are maimed or killed by them? Your attitude is why people don't like pitbulls and their owners.
When the last time you heard a case on People's Court of a golden retriever attacking someone requiring them to have stitches?
She doesn’t really hate pit bulls. She has issues with crappy dog owners, and respects the fact that a pit bull can cause way more damage than a yorkie.
Could the poor puppy have picked it up from the vets the first day??
I think I'm with the defendant. It could have just as well come from the plaintiffs.
Maybe this is a sign telling her to stop breeding mutts! Plenty of wonderful dogs and cats in shelters needing love!!!
Maybe this is a sign to stop breeding ANY dog breed.
Defendant was nice.
It is so sad how right after they bought the pet it died five days after.😢
I disagree with the ruling it doesnt make sense that nun of the other dogs in the litter got parvo but that dog did. I think they gave it to the dog from picking up other dogs.
Pay the market price asked for a puppy from a reputable breeder. If you are looking for a bargain the adopt. Good dogs from reputable breeders cost close to, and more than, $1K.
Her dogs are older and Parvo usually attacks young puppies.
Shelters our bursting at the seams with animals that need a home. Breeding is annoying in that way (esp back yd breeding)and so are the people who choose that route.
Sorry. But when they did the first fecal it’s not how it works. If it had parvo when it was purchased it would’ve been visible on the first sample. They don’t just “pick and choose “ what they see. And they should’ve went to a different vet bc it absolutely is curable especially if they took it the day after they “noticed symptoms”. The dog I promise you wasn’t locked in the house the whole time they had it.
They are not designer dogs they are mixed breeds and this whole thing is a marketing gimmick, absolutely genius, but a gimmick
She's wrong in this case, the other puppy didnt have it so its more likely they gave it to the dog
I never understand paying $500-1,000 for a mixed breed dog, call it designer but still a mix breed
Just for fun look up how much they are selling dogs for now. Some designer breeds at $3,000 and up. And the smaller they are the more expensive. It’s gotten out of hand. Check out micro puppies. You will be shocked
"Pure-bred" dogs are a worse racket, they have all kinds of issues with health because of inbreeding
@ckwind1971 some pure breeds Def have health issues, I've only ever had Labrador Retrievers, German Shepherd and 1 malinois who were pure breed. I've also never paid more than $450, 1 time, for a pup with papers the rest were $200-$350
Its not a designer dog. Its a mutt
I disagree with this decision I think she got this one wrong
I thought the title for this was a pretty good burn