I'm an Indian classical dancer who uses this system and I can assure that everything he's taught is accurate. You have my respect for learning this rhythm system, it isn't easy or typical. For anyone who wants to see how this rhythm is used, there's a rhythmic exploration called Konnakol popular in South India. These artists are honestly so dope, it blows my mind how well versed they are in rhythm. Here's one of my favorite artists: th-cam.com/video/SoPjy6kpi1A/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/7DEADUBo-x8/w-d-xo.html
Wow just checked out those videos, pretty interesting. Would be amazing to see if anyone would be able to make music like that with actual instruments. You know of any artists?
When I was teaching the phrase "Ta Ri Kita Thom" during my Indian dance class in upstate NY. These kids heard it as "Daddy kicked the gnome" they kept singing it like that for 3 months until the camp ended. 🙈😆
well there's a band that incorporates djent and vocals that do these kinda counting , Project Mishram . its a mix of indian classical music with progmetal/djent
yeah that works good also! the beautifull thing i found in these indian phrases is that each syllable really feels like the beat, so f.e.: ta i really a first beat and ka is really an afterbeat as i feel it :)
but banana has a stressed second syllable that is hard to pronounce unstressed when you're trying to accent the first part of the bar (I don't know the proper English for that :()
My suggestion is to write an Indian solfege rap that is catchy to your ear and practicing the lines to the tempo of your pace while you walk. For me, one of the lines was tadinginatom takita kitatakatadingina. If you start at a medium tempo and slowly increase speed with these lines, it will help a lot!
Just an opening of him sniffing a cactus followed by a wide shot of a crazy haired guy standing in a complete bomb site and wearing a lab coat. beautiful.
Love that stuff! Syllables for 3 would usually be TaKiTe instead of TaKiTa, so the musician won’t get lost in stacking 3s upon each other. Also, useful to mention would be that there is a complete freedom in how the musician could build a number. For example, 6 could be TaKaDiMiTaKa instead of TaKiTeTaKiTe, and that purely depends on chosen subdivisions or accents within the measure or a beat. Fun stuff to try: 5/4 cycle comprised of 4, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1 & 1 in 16ths note durations with accent displacement, and that make a hella grove (great for Tabla player you know)
I really love how you explained the Indian method by showing how it can make odd time signatures easier. The guitarist from Marbin talked about this stuff and I didn't really understand the point whenever he did. He was just like, "it's better, learn it". I like your approach, Dr. Levin.
2 notes (or "short" in eastern/balkan system): _Taco_ 3 notes: (or "long" in eastern/balkan system): _Burrito_ I find most music can be expressed entirely with these two. Blue Rondo Ala Turk is in 9/8, grouped as 2,2,2,3 2,2,2,3 2,2,2,3 3,3,3. But it can be performed as: Taco taco taco burrito Taco taco taco burrito Taco taco taco burrito Burrito burrito burrito
In Southern Indian music, everything is based on what we would call a quarter note. So, for example, if a piece was in 4/4 and there was a random 17/16 measure, it would feel like the downbeat is displaced by one 16th note but the true downbeat would remain on the quarter note. Source: Poolvalur Sriji, my Southern Indian Ensemble professor
@@alekisighl7599 Polymeter* Polyrhythm has different division sizes, but he speaks 16th notes over the 4/4, making it a polymeter that repeats every 17 bars
The good chemicals in my brain are having a blast and my heart is blissing on these beats. These rowdy rhythms render a rerouted routine and rich revival. 🥁💛👍Thanks!
I'm Indian, and I'm a real doctor, but I had no idea about this despite having listened to Indian classical music all my life. This is amazing! Makes so much sense while playing music! Thanks!!
Absolutely Incredible. I have been learning all signatures out of 4/4 so some of these are very helpful to me and how I play. Thank you. Time manipulation is the top asset.
You just synthesized the entire John McLaughlin DVD :The Gateway To Rhythm to under 10 minutes. Brilliant! Going to rewatch this again but at a slower speed. Bravo Ben Levin.
I've saw some of your other videos and always found them interesting. Watched this one and thought "seriously,why have I not subscribed yet?" This is gold, I wish I could have been introduced to it when I started playing...
you very clearly explain something that is no easy to understand!! I am teaching my 7th graders about Indian Classical music and this will go perfectly with my lesson on Tala.
I found Life and Back about a year ago and I'm so glad I did. I've learned so much from the content and art you've made and contributed to, and I'm so grateful for it. Thank you!
My roommate plays guitar and introduced me to your videos. As a drummer, this video is incredibly useful and really helpful in helping me explore things like odd meter and polyrhythms. Keep making beautiful and weird music!
Great stuff! You made me play around with your 5-3-3-5 pattern in a step sequencer and I ended up with 5-3-5, which sounds quite "normal" even though it's a 13/16 rhythm. Thank you!
This just shed light on a song I heard from Bela Fleck and the Flecktones at the end of their album "Live at the Quick". Futureman was calling out these rhythms to his band mates and they were calling them back to him and ended up playing those rhythms in the song that followed. I didn't understand whether or not they had what they were saying planned or not but this makes me realize that they likely improvised how they did the parts of the song that included the called out rhythms which makes the last song on that album that much more fascinating! Then again, it still could have been planned but very impressive none the less. Great video, Ben!
This video sparked my interest. On one hand it sounds interesting, on the other it's just substituting note groupings with words that have the same rhythm . However I looked into this and the system is actually way more interesting and useful than you are explaining it. In the original system, each beat has it's own sound. You are right that 4/4 is Ta Ka Di Mi, but 2/4 is Ta Di and 6/4 is Ta Va Ki Di Da Ma. That means that the first beat is always Ta and the middle beat is always Di and so on.
This is the first time I've ever seen Ta Din Gi Na Tom for groups of 5 but I love it. Aaron Edgar (Canadian drummer) related using Ta Ka Din Na Gah for 5 and Ta Ka Din Na Gay Na Gah for 7's but mentioned they weren't the formal syllables and were just what he utilized. Excellent to have an alternative that enables them not to be broken into groups of 2/3/4.
Bro, I've seen only a few of your videos this far and I really love your different approaches to music. You're definitely the kind of person to look at things from every angle and find the most interesting or entertaining ways to do things. I love your style man. Never change!
I can't make my mouth do some of that at speed!! But I do it in my head, and it's interesting how quickly you can break apart a time signature using that method. I listen to a lot of music with unusual time signatures, and as a drummer, I'm always looking for quicker methods of identifying the individual parts of complex rhythms. Thanks for explaining this so well!
It became easier for me to count a fast 19/16 as "takadimi takajono, takadimi takajono takita, takadimi takajono, takadimi takajono takita" than when they teach it like 4/4 + 3/8 or "1, 2, 3, 4, 123-1, 2, 3, 4, 123-1" I'm also being exact counting like that because I'm actually counting the 19 16th notes instead of rearranging everything into 4/4 + something This is good stuff
Very helpful, I’ve been on stuck on this since I can’t grasp the feeling rhythmically in rapping, specially when I’m trying to get the hang of a triplet feel, I can’t improvise, I trip on my words or even slurring them, which in my ears seem sloopy… Hearing this, it’s more understandable which I appreciate you, keep up the good work 👍🏼
I'm an Indian classical dancer who uses this system and I can assure that everything he's taught is accurate. You have my respect for learning this rhythm system, it isn't easy or typical. For anyone who wants to see how this rhythm is used, there's a rhythmic exploration called Konnakol popular in South India. These artists are honestly so dope, it blows my mind how well versed they are in rhythm.
Here's one of my favorite artists: th-cam.com/video/SoPjy6kpi1A/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/7DEADUBo-x8/w-d-xo.html
Wow just checked out those videos, pretty interesting. Would be amazing to see if anyone would be able to make music like that with actual instruments. You know of any artists?
As someone from south india, I enjoyed this video a lot and liked how you naturally did the indian head bob from just jamming along
We humans are all related somewhere along the line.
@@357CLOUDY true.
When I was teaching the phrase "Ta Ri Kita Thom" during my Indian dance class in upstate NY. These kids heard it as "Daddy kicked the gnome" they kept singing it like that for 3 months until the camp ended. 🙈😆
hahahahhahah
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
My mom is looking bizarrely at me for laughing like a seal for 2 minutes straight!!
I'm just imagining Dr. Levin singing these over Djent music, and it is incredible.
I think about this too. :-)
Ha nice!
Check out Mattias IA Eklundh's music!!
@@emmettlukas5360 That was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this video recommendation.
well there's a band that incorporates djent and vocals that do these kinda counting , Project Mishram . its a mix of indian classical music with progmetal/djent
Every drummer should have to watch this video.
It certainly helps!
Every drummer should take tabla lessons!
I learnt it this way:
8notes: mango
triplets: banana
16notes: mississippi ("Manitoba" if you're Canadian)
quintuplet: university
yeah that works good also! the beautifull thing i found in these indian phrases is that each syllable really feels like the beat, so f.e.: ta i really a first beat and ka is really an afterbeat as i feel it :)
instead of Banana I use chocolate
That's cool! Thanks for sharing. University is a great quintuplet. I think I'll be using that to explain it to my musical friends. Thanks! 😉
but banana has a stressed second syllable that is hard to pronounce unstressed when you're trying to accent the first part of the bar (I don't know the proper English for that :()
Atriya Koller use pineapple instead😃
My suggestion is to write an Indian solfege rap that is catchy to your ear and practicing the lines to the tempo of your pace while you walk. For me, one of the lines was tadinginatom takita kitatakatadingina. If you start at a medium tempo and slowly increase speed with these lines, it will help a lot!
Just an opening of him sniffing a cactus followed by a wide shot of a crazy haired guy standing in a complete bomb site and wearing a lab coat. beautiful.
Jacob mv 😂😂😂😂
Funnily enough, That explains nothing!
One's bomb site is the other's homely home...
Adam Nelly brought me here. I'm glad he did
Yay!
same here :-D
Me too also!
Me too....
Adam Nelly is fucking cool.
Love that stuff! Syllables for 3 would usually be TaKiTe instead of TaKiTa, so the musician won’t get lost in stacking 3s upon each other. Also, useful to mention would be that there is a complete freedom in how the musician could build a number. For example, 6 could be TaKaDiMiTaKa instead of TaKiTeTaKiTe, and that purely depends on chosen subdivisions or accents within the measure or a beat.
Fun stuff to try: 5/4 cycle comprised of 4, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1 & 1 in 16ths note durations with accent displacement, and that make a hella grove (great for Tabla player you know)
Thank you! With this I can now decypher Meshuggah!
Thank our lord and savior Adam Neely for bringing light upon Ben Levin!
"what this system is is a system"
Rob Bru can't argue with that one
Hey, when you're right you're right.
People die if they are killed.
That's a Tautology.
Is that what your say at a turtle's funeral?
This seems like it would be a great exercise for rappers trying to develop a chopper style. (e.g. Bone Thugs, Tech N9ne, Busta Rhymes)
Thanks for the idea
Z S yupp
Your so right!
Do Bone Thugs and so on use different tuplets? I would also like to hear reap in 7/8 for example
I really love how you explained the Indian method by showing how it can make odd time signatures easier. The guitarist from Marbin talked about this stuff and I didn't really understand the point whenever he did. He was just like, "it's better, learn it". I like your approach, Dr. Levin.
2 notes (or "short" in eastern/balkan system): _Taco_
3 notes: (or "long" in eastern/balkan system): _Burrito_
I find most music can be expressed entirely with these two.
Blue Rondo Ala Turk is in 9/8, grouped as 2,2,2,3 2,2,2,3 2,2,2,3 3,3,3. But it can be performed as:
Taco taco taco burrito
Taco taco taco burrito
Taco taco taco burrito
Burrito burrito burrito
Every time signature can be expressed by a combination of Ta Ka & Ta Ki Ta.
This made me laugh so much while trying to say quintuples as taco burrito taco burrito :D
this had no business being so funny
Watching this with automatic subtitles is a whole new experience!
Put on subtitles, it's hilarious
Unexpected Cena at 5:04
Jono Ghali "attack with the intention of taking maternity"
talking demon could be 16
Hi my name is Doremi Faso Latido
2:26 tidiness Kentucky to tighten genotype so the corner
This is fucking mind blowing, why have I never thought of it like this? Making interesting drum fills will be much easier now.
What do your neighbors think of you?
I'm not sure...
You would be the best kind of neighbor
Grayson Wilson-Cacciapalle not sure
They think he is an indian and has the tourette Syndrom. Geronimo
Very good explanation of Konnakol.
But, when you were talking about 15/16 and 17/16, you didn’t adjust your downbeats, so that really you were still in 4/4, just with displaced accents.
that's what I was thinking
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manutabora Its called a ployrythm
In Southern Indian music, everything is based on what we would call a quarter note. So, for example, if a piece was in 4/4 and there was a random 17/16 measure, it would feel like the downbeat is displaced by one 16th note but the true downbeat would remain on the quarter note.
Source: Poolvalur Sriji, my Southern Indian Ensemble professor
@@alekisighl7599 Polymeter* Polyrhythm has different division sizes, but he speaks 16th notes over the 4/4, making it a polymeter that repeats every 17 bars
Brilliant. I’ve been trying to understand this for weeks and finally got it from this. Thanks!
The good chemicals in my brain are having a blast and my heart is blissing on these beats. These rowdy rhythms render a rerouted routine and rich revival. 🥁💛👍Thanks!
I'm Indian, and I'm a real doctor, but I had no idea about this despite having listened to Indian classical music all my life. This is amazing! Makes so much sense while playing music! Thanks!!
Man you're awesome and I was so confused to trying to figure out how to fit an odd time or 3/6 to 4/8s, this has helped me a lot
Doctor! I love everything about this. Excellent teaching, content and such honest presentation. Man, awesome.
Found your channel recently and I absolutely love the content. I wish I'd found it years ago. So educational
Why AM I FINDING THIS ABSOLUTE GEM NOW? Awesome Dr. Levin!!
Absolutely Incredible. I have been learning all signatures out of 4/4 so some of these are very helpful to me and how I play. Thank you. Time manipulation is the top asset.
You just synthesized the entire John McLaughlin DVD :The Gateway To Rhythm to under 10 minutes. Brilliant! Going to rewatch this again but at a slower speed. Bravo Ben Levin.
Watch your language, young man
I've saw some of your other videos and always found them interesting. Watched this one and thought "seriously,why have I not subscribed yet?" This is gold, I wish I could have been introduced to it when I started playing...
you very clearly explain something that is no easy to understand!! I am teaching my 7th graders about Indian Classical music and this will go perfectly with my lesson on Tala.
I found Life and Back about a year ago and I'm so glad I did. I've learned so much from the content and art you've made and contributed to, and I'm so grateful for it. Thank you!
Literally... that was so cool. I'm sad its taken me this long to find how awesome this guy is.
So friggin cool. My favorite new TH-cam channel. I don't even know what you say... I'll be sharing this with my muso friends.
Jeez, somebody FINALLY explained this concept in a simple way.
My roommate plays guitar and introduced me to your videos. As a drummer, this video is incredibly useful and really helpful in helping me explore things like odd meter and polyrhythms. Keep making beautiful and weird music!
Thanks for your lesson Ben. Very cool. Takadimi. Konnakol. Rhythmisation. All very cool rhythm systems. Keep the rhythm videos coming.
Ta
Taco
Taquito
Sock it to me
Sock it to me now
Taquito Taquito
Sock it to me Taquito
Sock it to me Taco Bueno
Jesse Augustine Walker- That's a tongue twister! 😜 I ended up like: "tock it to me now...Tatito tatito." 😂
south mexico rhythmic solfege
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!😂😂😂
I'll be using this since it's easier to remember
Sock it to me => Ta-co to me
Ta
Taco
Taquito
Taco to me
Taco to me now
Taquito Taquito
Taco to me Taquito
Taco to me Taco me now
This lesson was freaking mind-blowing...
Thank you, I got tonnes of practice to do...
Great stuff! You made me play around with your 5-3-3-5 pattern in a step sequencer and I ended up with 5-3-5, which sounds quite "normal" even though it's a 13/16 rhythm. Thank you!
This just shed light on a song I heard from Bela Fleck and the Flecktones at the end of their album "Live at the Quick". Futureman was calling out these rhythms to his band mates and they were calling them back to him and ended up playing those rhythms in the song that followed. I didn't understand whether or not they had what they were saying planned or not but this makes me realize that they likely improvised how they did the parts of the song that included the called out rhythms which makes the last song on that album that much more fascinating! Then again, it still could have been planned but very impressive none the less. Great video, Ben!
Very enjoyable ! Loved it ! ❤
This video sparked my interest. On one hand it sounds interesting, on the other it's just substituting note groupings with words that have the same rhythm . However I looked into this and the system is actually way more interesting and useful than you are explaining it. In the original system, each beat has it's own sound. You are right that 4/4 is Ta Ka Di Mi, but 2/4 is Ta Di and 6/4 is Ta Va Ki Di Da Ma. That means that the first beat is always Ta and the middle beat is always Di and so on.
This is the first time I've ever seen Ta Din Gi Na Tom for groups of 5 but I love it. Aaron Edgar (Canadian drummer) related using Ta Ka Din Na Gah for 5 and Ta Ka Din Na Gay Na Gah for 7's but mentioned they weren't the formal syllables and were just what he utilized. Excellent to have an alternative that enables them not to be broken into groups of 2/3/4.
Bro, I've seen only a few of your videos this far and I really love your different approaches to music. You're definitely the kind of person to look at things from every angle and find the most interesting or entertaining ways to do things. I love your style man. Never change!
such a fantastic way to understand the feel of any time signature
Found your channel yesterday, and glad I did. This video is solid fire. Thank you for demystifying the rhythms and counts.
I can't make my mouth do some of that at speed!! But I do it in my head, and it's interesting how quickly you can break apart a time signature using that method. I listen to a lot of music with unusual time signatures, and as a drummer, I'm always looking for quicker methods of identifying the individual parts of complex rhythms. Thanks for explaining this so well!
Tip for drummers - assign different words from this to various drums and cymbals. As long as you make 'ta' a kick, you can get a pretty solid backbeat
One of the most interesting videos I've ever seen.
Dude this is only the 2nd video I've seen on your channel and I'm in love with it. Subbed!
Fantastic writing tool. Thank you for brief and clear breakdown
This might be one of the most useful things I've ever seen in my life. Thank you so much!
Good to see that u understand & u r interested in Indian music. Thnks.
Nice monitor loving the old school!
this guy is the reincarnation of zappa
I thorougly enjoyed this lesson, Dr.!
Perfectly broken down. Understood this instantly. Great teacher
this is a godsend for technical metal improv, thank you for bestowing this knowledge upon us
This is so inspirational! Already I can feel the idiosyncratic possibilities for my work!
Levin, fantastic video. Really helpfull to think out of the box with tempos, thank you.
A great video, Ben. Thanks!
Great lesson, just what I needed; Thank you (Dr) Levin!!!
One of my fav youtube videos of all time.
Your hair is as groovy as Freddy Fender. The room decor is a sign of genius. Nice lesson.
Frigging AWESOME lesson. Very clear. I am trying to do world rhythms on Clawhammer banjo. This is very helpful. THANK YOU!
just blew my mind with this, thanks Ben Levin
i'm subscribed to you because it's like finally getting the music lessons I always wanted from a more awkward frank zappa
wanna clarify that "awkward" wasn't meant as an insult!
Wow that's amazing material !
a cool example of this is "la danse du Bonheur" by John McLaughlin of Shakti! :D
Thanks for the recommendation, I've just listened to it and it's a great piece.
I also love it in Shakti's "Get Down and Sruti."
Really wow.. crash course kinda feel 😍
6:40 is double bass drum part in Tool's song The Grudge from Lateralus album before the verse.
that was beautifully explained thank you !
this is so much easier on the palate & hence flows so much better than the 1 e & - 2 e & a - 3 o e & a etc way of counting. Kool;
Ok my tongue is twisted...cool ideas though for writing..love it thx...you are one clever boy!
This is the most brilliant device for devising the djentiest of djent rhythms! Also I learned it as konnakol wasn't sure if they were the same system.
Dr. You transplanted my brain - the transplant was a success !!! Thanks :)
It became easier for me to count a fast 19/16 as "takadimi takajono, takadimi takajono takita, takadimi takajono, takadimi takajono takita" than when they teach it like 4/4 + 3/8 or "1, 2, 3, 4, 123-1, 2, 3, 4, 123-1"
I'm also being exact counting like that because I'm actually counting the 19 16th notes instead of rearranging everything into 4/4 + something
This is good stuff
Thanks Ethan!
Wow, I'm awestruck. Gonna give it a try, sounds like productive fun - Thank you!
Damn, that intro is just pure gold.
As soon as I saw you shaving the cactus I instantly subscribed.
Thank you Doctor! I feel so much better now!
thanks so much been wanting to learn this for years
Can't draw any tuplets on midi though hmmm
Wow! You are really an excellent teacher!
You rock... I thoroughly love this video hardcore. Excellent work and explanation!
how is this video not more popular??
Very helpful, I’ve been on stuck on this since I can’t grasp the feeling rhythmically in rapping, specially when I’m trying to get the hang of a triplet feel, I can’t improvise, I trip on my words or even slurring them, which in my ears seem sloopy…
Hearing this, it’s more understandable which I appreciate you, keep up the good work 👍🏼
Best rhythm video EVER!
Awesome video. Thanks!
I play bass n from India n wanted to use this ideas for slap bass... found ur video...amazing job..
This is really cool! Just what I was looking for and explained really well. Thanks
Cool video. I have terrible rhythm, and this looks like a great way to internalize rhythm. Thanks.
Thank you Ben for your clarity....:-)))
That was actually REALLY BLOODY HELPFUL
whoa man, this is sweet! I'm having flashbacks to my jazz teacher doing something like this with me when i was a kid. thanks for the lesson!
+Ben Stoneking you are an idiot, but i agree with you completely. this totally shifted my paradigm with rhythms! will be practicing this!