By welding the entire crack and turning the steel basically molten, it negates this hole nonsense. With all the extra bracing he added it should also keep the stressed areas from cracking the new welds.
@@dancarlos1216 It's good practice to do the extra step considering it takes just a couple seconds and nullifies any chances since negating the crack depends very much on penetration. I get being pragmatic and saying good enough but considering the trailing arms application it's better to be prudent 🙂
You should replace the power steering reservoir after any system change. They have filters in the bottom of the reservoir and you’ll see consistent rack failures because they will hold debris in the reservoir.
if it got filter and holding debris in the reservoir all would be good, problem would be if debris going from reservoir filter into system. Inspection/cleaning would be good standard practice .
@@mrb1864 the problem with the filter is that it’s a set amount of microns so debris finer than that will get into your system no matter what. it’s a common problem with Hondas, Nissans, Toyotas, etc
I love watching this series of videos. This Civic went from a basic car to an amazing track weapon. Now you are doing this again. Very impressive to say the least. I don't know if you'll win from the gates but I'm routing for you Sir Ben!
Long time viewer and first comment in any TH-cam section ever. Have to say Ben's, your content is really enjoying to watch. But what really makes me burst my comment cherry is the little bracket you order from my current home city. Melbourne Australia. Particularly the company Honed. I know one of the guys who started the business and have to say, these guys are amazing. Top quality gear and always willing to give any advice and help where they can. Was so happy that their gear is getting noticed globally. Keep up the great work with the builds and maybe one day, come on down to the land down under. I'll even let both of you take my nugget for a few hot laps of Winton. Till then 🤙
This has been one of the most entertaining car related videos I have seen in a long time. Love the "normal" feel of it all. Hypes me up to work on my own car.
Dude, this easily the most gratifying watch of the day. I love fab videos, and stoked to see the next evolution of the car moving forward. Y'all have really ramped up the production value this past season. Kudos!👍
Love to see people sticking to a car they like and making it evolve, as driving skills and taste evolve. This car went from a cool street car, to a track toy, to a track car, to time attack car... and now... RACE CAR babeh!
I'm so excited to see you do wheel to wheel racing, i paused just to comment that man. I am HYPED for you, i cannot wait to see what you do and watch you dominate it. Please record everything!
I love the tally marks on each tire to count how many times it's been used. Could you guys do a video going over these sorts of track tips and tricks? Additionally, I would love to hear how you capture and use your data (tire pressure monitoring/racing lines/section times/etc). I recall you installed tire temp sensors on the Civic but I don't recall them ever being talked about again. Love the videos!
bens, i’m curious what the timeline of this looks like. when repairing and maintaining, how long did this whole video take place over time? and how many hours of mechanical work did you take in total during this video?
What a day, came back home bringing 2nd place in my class at todays local Time Attack Championship with my Civic, seeing this video pop up first is just perfect timing and more motivation to keep pushing 💪
S1BUILT in Florida has a few different options to fix your trailing arms issue. From diy reinforcement all the way up to full billet trailing arms. Good luck
a couple of suggestions...wheel to wheel will stress things a lot more than time attack did...so your rear wheel bearings will probably not last as long. Bring a a pair of hubs to the track (you might also want to carry front wheel bearings/hubs and spare brake rotors). Also, your power steering fluid will need to be serviced much more often, probably after every race weekend.
Counting turns definitely doesn’t work when changing inner tie rods. I’ve had them be different lengths such that counting turns resulted in wildly out of spec toe. Better to actually take measurements to get the new tie rods as close as possible to the correct position before going to the alignment shop. Of course this assumes driving the car to the shop. If it’s trailered then obviously it doesn’t matter.
Sounds like a fun plan. I've been watching GLTC season footage from Jeremy Swenson and Luke McGrew on their respective channels thanks to G&G introducing them in their past Time Attack. Enjoy the new adventure guys
Even if the decision to change formats was purely “just for content” (and I’m sure it’s not) this is still really cool. Really pumped to see what you can do this season. Love your work bro! 🤙
Hey there, (just questioning something respectfully as I actually have no idea) is it possible he torques them just a bit more as the type of driving he does requires that extra tightness as it’s under more pressure?
@@Hotpotato11 I understand why you may think that, but no. All wheel bearings come with a torque spec as the manufacturer decided that was the amount of force required to keep the bearing securely in place without crushing the races and causing the bearing to fail prematurely. Now, older vehicles and heavy duty vehicles used taper bearings. These were absolutely essential to not overtighten. This is because the tightness of the nut literally put more tension on the bearings as it was driving the taper further into the race. Taper bearings were put on essentially hand tight and held in with a cotter pin. What you see on Ben's car is a more common roller bearing. Now, most likely Ben is correct and its the stress from track days and hard turns that are killing these bearings and not the fact that he runs the nut in with an impact. The Roller style are not tapered and therefore the torque on the nut LIKELY does not cause extra stress on the bearings inside, though it could if it was like extremely extremely tight. My point at the end of the day was "hey man at least if you torque it you might get a couple more track days out of it." But this has been a debate in every shop I've worked in and its about a 50/50 chance that a technician these days will actually torque one to spec as its not what you would consider extremely important since the nut gets staked and can't back off.
I’m positive he torqued it once it was on the car. In filming there are so many things happening that either - A. You just didn’t get a shot of it. Or B. There was a shot of it but it didn’t make the cut so they didn’t use it for one reason or another. So they don’t show every single thing that happens. If they did, the video would be as long as it takes to actually do the job, which is hours long.
I think you forgot to lock the center lock nut for the wheel bearing right side (19:54 when you put the wheel on, it is still not locked). Maybe that part was just cut out. :-) Thank you for this great channel. :-)
Just ran my first track day with the V730; needs more time to get heat into em but they hold up to some abuse and haven't seen reports of the tread cracking like the RT660. Good luck with your upcoming season.
Loved every second of this but it also made me nervous because I plan on tracking my civic as well but I don’t have access to things like a welder and some other tools to reinforce parts on that car etc.
Nice to see you doing more minor fab work in house. Hopefully over time we see your fabrication skills grow. It's pretty intimidating but I think it's a really good direction to take the channel.
Just welding up the trailing arm wont fix that metal fatigue that caused the crack. I'm really surprised you didn't just buy another (new if available?) one and reenforced that.
The australian company who makes the reinforcement "fix" is also tiny bit part of the problem why it cracks in the first place. Although the rear rca's are a great product function wise, almost everyone who runs it with big tyres is cracking their trailing arms. Other then that nice watch again and cool to see the civic go gltc 👌🏻👌🏻
Hey Boys, if you ever want more motorsports content to film for videos ,my brother and I race Spec Miata’s just north of y’all in the DC region with SCCA. Tight racing 50+ car fields. Could be good content. Much love to G&G and big fan! -Jonathan
Do yourself a favor and get some gloves. The thick latex are great for keeping the hands clean and cut free while maintaining dexterity. Also, not sure if you ever mentioned what steering rack you are using, but the ITR rack had a great ratio on my 98 ex k-swap.
I'm curious about running thicker fluid in Honda transmissions. I have heard and read before that the bearings don't get along with thick fluid because of how tight the tolerances are but I could be wrong. Rooting for you guys and I hope GLTC goes great this season.
I’d be more concerned with the thicker juice slowing down the Syncronizers just a cunt hair and possibly causing gear grind during fast high rpm shifts. 😟😬🫣 There’s a reason these gear boxes come with thin, high anti-friction oil from the factory (although they’re STILL known to grind gears straight outta the box so… ah screw it. Forget what I said, what do I know… 😏
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about I completely forgot about the synchros too. But you are right about the factory grind too, it never gets away from them even after they "fix it" lol We'll just have to see when the time comes
Usually, I'd be conciliatory and say "get both" (and, I mean......he should get both), but he already has an NA Civic race car that's light as a feather and revs to the moon. AND he has a massively powerful STI for the street. What more could he need?
22:02 - Do you have any data on transmission fluid/oil temps? If not, you're actually going to shorten the life of the transmission by running a heavier weight oil. The heavier weight oil will not lubricate as much or as well as the thinner oil, provided the thinner oil's temps were in a good operating range.
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It’s a good idea to drill a hole at the end of the crack to stop it from spreading before it’s welded
Yeah, he definitely should've drilled the end of the crack. Hopefully with the brace it doesn't continue to stress crack 😬
Kinda late for that now
Beat me to it
By welding the entire crack and turning the steel basically molten, it negates this hole nonsense. With all the extra bracing he added it should also keep the stressed areas from cracking the new welds.
@@dancarlos1216 It's good practice to do the extra step considering it takes just a couple seconds and nullifies any chances since negating the crack depends very much on penetration. I get being pragmatic and saying good enough but considering the trailing arms application it's better to be prudent 🙂
You should replace the power steering reservoir after any system change. They have filters in the bottom of the reservoir and you’ll see consistent rack failures because they will hold debris in the reservoir.
Can’t you just clean the screens?
if it got filter and holding debris in the reservoir all would be good, problem would be if debris going from reservoir filter into system.
Inspection/cleaning would be good standard practice .
@@mrb1864 the problem with the filter is that it’s a set amount of microns so debris finer than that will get into your system no matter what. it’s a common problem with Hondas, Nissans, Toyotas, etc
Love seeing those long maintenance type videos
Yup!
With cracks you should drill a small hole at the end of the crack to stop it from growing later.
I love watching this series of videos. This Civic went from a basic car to an amazing track weapon.
Now you are doing this again. Very impressive to say the least. I don't know if you'll win from the gates but I'm routing for you Sir Ben!
Long time viewer and first comment in any TH-cam section ever. Have to say Ben's, your content is really enjoying to watch. But what really makes me burst my comment cherry is the little bracket you order from my current home city. Melbourne Australia. Particularly the company Honed. I know one of the guys who started the business and have to say, these guys are amazing. Top quality gear and always willing to give any advice and help where they can. Was so happy that their gear is getting noticed globally. Keep up the great work with the builds and maybe one day, come on down to the land down under. I'll even let both of you take my nugget for a few hot laps of Winton. Till then 🤙
Love the chillhop music and vibes while showing wrenching on the car. Ahhh so therapeutic. I love it and could watch it all day.
This has been one of the most entertaining car related videos I have seen in a long time. Love the "normal" feel of it all. Hypes me up to work on my own car.
Dude, this easily the most gratifying watch of the day. I love fab videos, and stoked to see the next evolution of the car moving forward. Y'all have really ramped up the production value this past season. Kudos!👍
It's awesome that you're going wheel to wheel racing.
Love to see people sticking to a car they like and making it evolve, as driving skills and taste evolve.
This car went from a cool street car, to a track toy, to a track car, to time attack car... and now... RACE CAR babeh!
It’s always fun to watch Ben tinker on his CTR. More CTR content guys ❤❤❤
Friendly reminder that this is not a CTR
@@fettsk1 Oh yeah definitely forgot that man. It sure look like one though
I'm so excited to see you do wheel to wheel racing, i paused just to comment that man. I am HYPED for you, i cannot wait to see what you do and watch you dominate it. Please record everything!
I love the tally marks on each tire to count how many times it's been used. Could you guys do a video going over these sorts of track tips and tricks? Additionally, I would love to hear how you capture and use your data (tire pressure monitoring/racing lines/section times/etc). I recall you installed tire temp sensors on the Civic but I don't recall them ever being talked about again. Love the videos!
For the spacers, if you can, get HDPE it’ll probably hold up better once those current spacers you have in there wear out
Love these videos. Beginners can learn a lot about preparing a car to the track!
So much hammering in RacecaR
bens, i’m curious what the timeline of this looks like. when repairing and maintaining, how long did this whole video take place over time? and how many hours of mechanical work did you take in total during this video?
Honestly haha, I did roll center adjuster ball joints and all 4 brakes and rotors yesterday and it took a solid 7-8 hours and I was pooped.
Honestly haha, I did roll center adjuster ball joints and all 4 brakes and rotors yesterday and it took a solid 7-8 hours and I was pooped.
23:12 - Valvoline VR1 is likely blue to help identify oil leaks. Otherwise, it's just a harmless dye.
Instead of engine enamel next time use it steel-it. It's a weldable anti corrosion paint and you can get it in black.
I think he's using enamel because it need to be highly abrasion resistant and heat resistant, but steel-it is a good alternative in many cases.
Looking forward to the SCCA VIR video. It was fun seeing you guys there and checking the car out.
It's nice to see u doing most of work yourself. Not many youtubers are still doing that
What a day, came back home bringing 2nd place in my class at todays local Time Attack Championship with my Civic, seeing this video pop up first is just perfect timing and more motivation to keep pushing 💪
S1BUILT in Florida has a few different options to fix your trailing arms issue. From diy reinforcement all the way up to full billet trailing arms. Good luck
a couple of suggestions...wheel to wheel will stress things a lot more than time attack did...so your rear wheel bearings will probably not last as long. Bring a a pair of hubs to the track (you might also want to carry front wheel bearings/hubs and spare brake rotors). Also, your power steering fluid will need to be serviced much more often, probably after every race weekend.
Counting turns definitely doesn’t work when changing inner tie rods. I’ve had them be different lengths such that counting turns resulted in wildly out of spec toe. Better to actually take measurements to get the new tie rods as close as possible to the correct position before going to the alignment shop.
Of course this assumes driving the car to the shop. If it’s trailered then obviously it doesn’t matter.
Ive followed this car since the very beginning and the title had me legitimately crushed
I'm excited to see videos of upcoming races
Far out I wish there was a competiton like all the Gridlife classes and events in Australia
They make funnels that screw into your valve cover. It would probably be useful lol
Ben: "You've got a really nice rack there"
HR: "We'd like you to step into our office..."
You could always try using Dye penetrant to look for other cracks on the trailing arms also.
I’m excited for you Ben, you’re gonna do well in this new class of driving!! 💪🏽 🏁
The second I heard Gridlife........I said Yessssss.
The civic build is my favorite content. Exciting to see you got from club tr to gltc
looking forward to whats to come!
Great content.
Patiently awaiting some evo content. 🤠😇
Yes mate. Can’t wait to see this 💪
Insane stuff Ben, well done keep it up!
Sounds like a fun plan. I've been watching GLTC season footage from Jeremy Swenson and Luke McGrew on their respective channels thanks to G&G introducing them in their past Time Attack. Enjoy the new adventure guys
Short Ben when replacing a part “this new one looks WAY better than the one we are replacing” … every time.. lol
Enjoying the generous use of the death wheels in this one.
nice. im running some V730's myself this year for the 1st time. cant wait to see what they do.
the rack is easily rebuildable but you need the right tools but that is an oem rack you took off that has been rebuilt already
Even if the decision to change formats was purely “just for content” (and I’m sure it’s not) this is still really cool. Really pumped to see what you can do this season. Love your work bro! 🤙
Ben, oh my gawd, those cotter pins are awefull, my gawd xD
Ben, your fabrication skills just keep leveling up. Nice work.
Where is the S2k with ITBs?
Great video, very in-depth with good explanations.
Hey Benz!
You may want to invest in some weld-thru primer for those repairs.
The wheel bearings may fail a bit less frequently if you torque the nut to spec.
Hey there, (just questioning something respectfully as I actually have no idea) is it possible he torques them just a bit more as the type of driving he does requires that extra tightness as it’s under more pressure?
@@Hotpotato11 no. Over torqued anything will fail more quickly.
@@Hotpotato11 I understand why you may think that, but no. All wheel bearings come with a torque spec as the manufacturer decided that was the amount of force required to keep the bearing securely in place without crushing the races and causing the bearing to fail prematurely. Now, older vehicles and heavy duty vehicles used taper bearings. These were absolutely essential to not overtighten. This is because the tightness of the nut literally put more tension on the bearings as it was driving the taper further into the race. Taper bearings were put on essentially hand tight and held in with a cotter pin. What you see on Ben's car is a more common roller bearing. Now, most likely Ben is correct and its the stress from track days and hard turns that are killing these bearings and not the fact that he runs the nut in with an impact. The Roller style are not tapered and therefore the torque on the nut LIKELY does not cause extra stress on the bearings inside, though it could if it was like extremely extremely tight. My point at the end of the day was "hey man at least if you torque it you might get a couple more track days out of it." But this has been a debate in every shop I've worked in and its about a 50/50 chance that a technician these days will actually torque one to spec as its not what you would consider extremely important since the nut gets staked and can't back off.
I’m positive he torqued it once it was on the car. In filming there are so many things happening that either - A. You just didn’t get a shot of it. Or B. There was a shot of it but it didn’t make the cut so they didn’t use it for one reason or another.
So they don’t show every single thing that happens. If they did, the video would be as long as it takes to actually do the job, which is hours long.
I am so here for some wheel to wheel racing. Consider uploading uncut laps somewhere.
If you're not limited to a 200 tw tyre, you should try out the Nankang R compound tyres. Extremely stiff sidewalls and it's a very fast compound.
I think you forgot to lock the center lock nut for the wheel bearing right side (19:54 when you put the wheel on, it is still not locked). Maybe that part was just cut out. :-) Thank you for this great channel. :-)
You're supposed to torque the lower control arms with the suspension pressed to ride height
Just ran my first track day with the V730; needs more time to get heat into em but they hold up to some abuse and haven't seen reports of the tread cracking like the RT660. Good luck with your upcoming season.
This civic is a weapon!
impacts with chrome socket
No more vrooom vrooom, but definetly we'll have VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Loved every second of this but it also made me nervous because I plan on tracking my civic as well but I don’t have access to things like a welder and some other tools to reinforce parts on that car etc.
The kumho is some good stuff,ran the 720’s amazing in the dry,acceptable in the wet
so fucking excited to see this car and your driving along side it progress further 🙏🏎️
Gears & Gasoline is like therapy for me !
Nice to see you doing more minor fab work in house. Hopefully over time we see your fabrication skills grow. It's pretty intimidating but I think it's a really good direction to take the channel.
Wheel to wheel? FCK YEAH!
Just welding up the trailing arm wont fix that metal fatigue that caused the crack. I'm really surprised you didn't just buy another (new if available?) one and reenforced that.
The australian company who makes the reinforcement "fix" is also tiny bit part of the problem why it cracks in the first place. Although the rear rca's are a great product function wise, almost everyone who runs it with big tyres is cracking their trailing arms.
Other then that nice watch again and cool to see the civic go gltc 👌🏻👌🏻
I run the V730 for Autox, you are gonna enjoy them. Cut my times down by 3 seconds plus
Hey Boys, if you ever want more motorsports content to film for videos ,my brother and I race Spec Miata’s just north of y’all in the DC region with SCCA. Tight racing 50+ car fields. Could be good content. Much love to G&G and big fan!
-Jonathan
Finally! Time for real racing!
11:01
Right on the beat, you musician ;)
This is a great overall decision. Time Attack is cool but hard mode for content making.
~Hard work! Well done!
ya know, you always make me feel broke when you tune up the civic 🥹😭
Do yourself a favor and get some gloves. The thick latex are great for keeping the hands clean and cut free while maintaining dexterity. Also, not sure if you ever mentioned what steering rack you are using, but the ITR rack had a great ratio on my 98 ex k-swap.
That Sanders definitely gonna be my next Milwaukee tool
I knew it, you're heading to Nascar with a Honda Civic, whew whew!
never thought you could do weld Ben
Jeez so smooth no problems arise when your working on your car. I swear I run to 1 problem after another screaming profanities 💀
I'm curious about running thicker fluid in Honda transmissions. I have heard and read before that the bearings don't get along with thick fluid because of how tight the tolerances are but I could be wrong. Rooting for you guys and I hope GLTC goes great this season.
I’d be more concerned with the thicker juice slowing down the Syncronizers just a cunt hair and possibly causing gear grind during fast high rpm shifts. 😟😬🫣
There’s a reason these gear boxes come with thin, high anti-friction oil from the factory (although they’re STILL known to grind gears straight outta the box so… ah screw it. Forget what I said, what do I know… 😏
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about I completely forgot about the synchros too. But you are right about the factory grind too, it never gets away from them even after they "fix it" lol
We'll just have to see when the time comes
Love the videos Ben keep making them
definitely a solid choice of tire! had those on my WRX for a long time.
nice man, hope to be racing with you in GLTC next season! you've got a great car for it
This is what I've been waiting for
You should get a GR Corolla.
Hell no new civic type R would be nice
Usually, I'd be conciliatory and say "get both" (and, I mean......he should get both), but he already has an NA Civic race car that's light as a feather and revs to the moon. AND he has a massively powerful STI for the street. What more could he need?
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 yeah you are right about that dude
@@MrCrowley925 to bad its not all wheel drive
@@m4xripper AWD is overrated when the track/road is dry.
Have fun at watkins glen in 3 weeks
PS can't leak if you depower it and lube it w/ axle grease.
22:02 - Do you have any data on transmission fluid/oil temps? If not, you're actually going to shorten the life of the transmission by running a heavier weight oil. The heavier weight oil will not lubricate as much or as well as the thinner oil, provided the thinner oil's temps were in a good operating range.
love maintenance videos
Just remember to crack your fills before your drains.
Bring back Luke with the Honda Fit content…..
(Dooku voice) I’ve been looking forward to this
My guy has the "Something about Mary" nut butter hair going on LMAO😂
Dudeeee I’m so pumped for the road trip 😂
Tyres... Maybe u want to go straight to nankang ar1?
Kumho wasnt the grippiest from some review on friend tracking these often
I love marks rack
yes!!!!!
If class allows try running yokohama a052 / bridgestone re-71rs. Theyre the business
Started video and why did his hair remind me of something about Mary. When she finds the hair gel LoL hanging off his ear scene. 😂😂😂👍
Awww but your civic is so clean! It’s gunna get beat up in big grids like that