You’ve just described my best friend of over fifty years…… she died two years ago. Men went nuts over her because they were in her presence. Not especially beautiful but very very bright. Explaining her essence is difficult, but essentially she “always had her keys in her ignition “….. I miss her daily. Even as a friend she is/was irreplaceable.❤
Yeah write about her personality, communication style, behaviour, character and some little spicy things you saw I m sure you can write an essay on her coz the way you tell us about her shows you know much more
Cleopatra was also very intelligent ! Knew several other languages and was well read. I’m sure she could go toe to toe with the best which is why leaders loved her
@@YtdeletesallmycommentsWell Yes and No. She most likely had a mixed complexion. Almost like how they portrayed her in the Rome series from the early 2000’s.
Yes, it's mainly confidence that has that energy. You just have to know how to protect yourself from insecurity and not let other peoples' sayings get into you.
Not confidence.. It’s legit siren 🚨.. like he described.. I had it and didn’t know how describe it until I saw this clip.. You’ll feel it from the back of the room once you look at her. Mostly women, yes. For men we carry confidence not sirens… Sirens are very dangerous. Stay away. I’ve been there.
@@nuggie2253 lol some sirens don’t even know they are sirens. It’s not the confidence you feel when talking to men that’s fine. It’s the feeling men have when talking to you “they feel the siren” not you.. you either know you have it or still don’t know. Or know if have it at all, you may not have it. Only “experienced” men can tell.. I fell for it when I wasn’t. Now I’m experienced I can tell from a mile away.. It comes with experience and knowledge like affectively trying to understand what happened not just move on to next person/ relationship after a failed one
this seems more like a curse, because you're desirable to the extent that you're a mystery. You're a novelty. Novelties, by definition, do not last long. Nobody wants intensity or hazards looming over their heads day to day.
I can tell u first hand sirens are real. Got involved with one & let me tell u their energy can be overwhelming. And when they leave there is a massive void left. I hope I never get involved with another one for as long as I live.
I strongly agree. Just broke up with one recently too.. Very devastating. It’s like they live on sucking your energy and draining you.. Was she bipolar too?? Mine was…. I felt siren with another one at the gym once I saw her and gave me a smile. I went to say hi it was cool conversation like always in the beginning. But boy did I feel same draining energy and siren kept running on for days in my body. I ran with my life. It took couple days to shake it off. Now I see them I look away in couple seconds and it’s over.. I’m much more immunized now. First relationship took a bit over a year.
@@SSKA57 firstly I’m glad you got away from these women, and I can’t say for sure if mine was bipolar but I’m almost positive she was, especially towards the end. The more comfortable they get the more their true nature rears it’s ugly head. And dude yes I know what you mean, now I can spot a siren pretty quickly…something about the eyes with them. And it also took me about a year and half to get over my first encounter.
@@SSKA57 these women are like vampires, and yes vampires are real their just not the fanged blood sucking monsters that Hollywood portrays. No, vampires are more subtle they drain your energy/life force. These sirens/vampires can never have enough, they will bleed you dry if you let them. These sirens have mastered the art of seduction, they embody the essence of female sexuality in the most pervasive ways which is way they’re so dangerous. Good luck to you my friend 💯
@@jy7duality you’re absolutely right something is with their eyes. In particular the pupils , are extremely wide open. I noticed that in her. And I wouldn’t know if she was bipolar if I didn’t ask her by chance then. Now I purposely ask and have it as a red flag. I dated a bipolar before her but it wasn’t this siren energy, and it was short lived. This one sucked me in like black hole about a year and a half today, still living the aftermath recovery of strong magnets to get back god forbid.. But I totally feel you brother. Stay strong. And don’t give up to find the feminine sweet girl. Ask all questions if she’s bipolar or have anxiety etc,, even body count (less is better) and about her past and how she ended each previous relationship if she talk $hit about them she’ll talk the same about you so stay away. Also stay away from feminists. Man I can go on and on. I learned A LOT. But definitely left me heart broken so badly I still hurt after 2 months now. Good luck to you too my friend.
The only time I've ever been blown away by a woman an overweight girl (and I don't just mean chubby, but not morbidly obese either). I was heading out of the club and this girl (a friend of my cousin) handed me a glass of wine as I was saying goodbye to my cousin, and she asked me to stay. The way she said it and carried herself left me in shock, and I've never experienced that since.
When man is in control of himself and I can explain this way because I am a Christian and the Bible says: walk in the spirit and you will not be lured by the desires of the flesh. In such a state you can meet this siren and not be affected by her at all. You can admire her, even like her, but it will have no dominance over you. Because what is in you, the Spirit of God, is stronger than what is in her. This is the story of my life of before and after I met the Lord.
My friend Alex absolutely was textbook Siren. Not at all beautiful (great eyes though!) but the way she moved was kinda fluid, subtle but slinky like a big cat, or when tall grass rippling in a breeze. Hard to describe, but mesmerisizing. We tried to get her to teach us to walk like her but failed miserably 🤣🤣 And she just exuded absolute self confidence. Extraordinary girl. And a real laugh. Not up herself at all. Coolest person I think I’ve ever met. Definitely a bit of a girl crush on her back then.
That’s what ppl don’t get. What creates the siren is usually some sort of trauma, or rather how their personality develops because of the trauma they experienced. What makes them so alluring is that they don’t know what they are doing or the affect they have on people. They are naturally magnetic and don’t know how to turn off the charm.
But some times it's not beauty is what he is saying it's something else it's an attraction that pulls you in to someone who you never thought would call your attention
@@eveapple5959 yeah, the impression I got, from men I worked with a few years ago, was that I was sexy, because I was smart. I think that, for them, I was an anomaly, because they felt, “Heck, she’s smart AND black!” Plus there’s all those stereotypes about how good we are in bed. But, trust me, I am not sexy and I wasn’t trying to be. I was just being me. Apparently, men are not always attracted to women they don’t think are smart.
@@privateprivate8366 Only men who have know education think that way an educated man loves an educated woman because they can have a real conversation about anything and everything and actually talk that's what made you sexy to them and that's what will keep making you sex. But to a man who has very lil education they see you has a threat not because you are but because in a man's world there are two types of men real men or thug's who say they are men. And it's always up to the woman to decide the type she chooses
@@eveapple5959 it can become even more complicated. The guy who was after me the most, was the company president. Not extensively educated. But a college degree. I also had a theory that he might be trying to actually ruin me and my career. Had there been an affair, which would’ve surely gotten out as, even his staring did, I’d have been considered the company slut and he’d have landed on his feet. My parents were black educators and didn’t lead the most private life. As my boss was the type to investigate you and eavesdrop, if he was interested, only to confirm what he’d found, by asking occasional questions, I figured he might know my parents lives pretty well. He may have actually disliked what they were into and, perhaps, thought that, through me, he could blow that all up. Can’t say I ever actually got that vibe from him, but I did consider it. So, there are so many types of situations and complexities out there. But still, it can boil down to the bare minimum. I was considered smart, but I was also unmarried, no children, not dating and, perhaps, a bit of a challenge, because he tried to control me, unsuccessfully. Wasn’t even sure if he fired another guy, because that guy was married, but interested, too. I’ll never know.
I have been described like that to the point I am almost feared. The funny thing is I am compassionate and kindhearted. People are very surprised that I am spiritual and attend church regularly. I think it is my cool confidence and unbothered vibe that I inherited from my father.
The other person can be whatever. But its always the weakness in you that you allow the other to take over you. So remember even if a siren is around its ur incapability of strength that makes you fall at her feat.
The irony is that Greene says Cleopatra wasn't traditionally/objectively beautiful because of her long nose but a long/aquiline nose in a woman is something I find particularly attractive so I would argue the reason for her being a siren was that she was in fact beautiful but alas, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
This is from the point of view of the damaged Divine Masculine. The damaged Divine Masculine is that one who at first runs away from the divine feminine. The difference is that depending on whether the woman has developed a healthy divine feminine (lots of patience, being unfazed and nom-reactive towards the running away of the damaged divine masculine), or a damaged divine feminine. The trick is to balance within yourself both, your divine feminine and your divine masculine. When both of them are regulated and balanced within yourself, then you don’t develop the negative traits that are attributed to damaged divines masculine and feminine. An unregulated divine feminine for example will either 1. Cut the balls of her man (metaphorically speaking*), that happens when her divine masculine is stronger within herself than her divine feminine. Or 2. Have an anxious attachment style and let herself be disrespected by the divine masculine (that happens when her divine feminine is more prominent than her divine masculine). Men also have this same issue but in reverse. Men with an excess of or unregulated divine masculine see love as a war/battlefield where they must defend, hide, run and protect themselves. That’s an unregulated divine masculine. His divine feminine is less prominent, so he lacks or has less characteristics of the divine feminine. The key is to regulate them within yourself and balance them. When you are feeling “alone” of you are without another person it is because one of your divines is not present or not prominent enough to make you feel balanced within. The greatest objective is to fill up your cup first, give to yourself first all the things that you’d like to give to the other person that you like/love. Your own divine feminine can nourish your divine masculine and your own divine masculine can protect and make your divine feminine feel safe and loved. It seems to me that Robert has an unregulated divine feminine and that’s why he see women as dangerous sirens.
Can’t even lie all the girls I’ve ever really fell for were the ones who were just very pleasant and easy to be around. Yeah they were pretty but their personalities really made me stay longer than I should’ve and it really helped me click with them since they were so pleasant but not overbearing with energy like other girls who are too friendly or very “dry” in response.
My first gf in high school was a siren and I had no idea she was. I was so attracted to her madly, it was just crazy. I read The Art Of Seduction and then I met another girl last year and she gave off the same vibe and it clicked. She was a siren too, I have met 3 sirens in my life and boy their pull is strong.
@vashu A siren is a woman, not necessarily beautiful who has this magentic pull on men. They have this inviting aura about them, they everything with grace, they are smooth , men are attracted to them even though they try to deny or fight it. They are bad news for men An example is Angelina Jolie
I have experienced this energy and seen men falling for her like stars falling 🌠 and getting destroyed emotionally. She is so powerful that men who are 30 years elder to her and also men who are 30 years younger to her, were victim of her intense energy. If you lucky to get her attention and audiance, in her company, its like playing with fire 🔥 which everyone wants a piece of it but no one get that... she just uses them and give them a false hope of her charming lust....that's her beauty.
This is the first time hearing this and it's So true how he explains it . People said I was sensual, sexy. I didn't try to be at all. It affected some of my jobs. It wasn't fair. What are you supposed to do?
I disagree that only women can be sirens, I’ve known a few guys like that. Just exude sexuality and danger about them, not technically good looking, just magnetic auras.
I've met two men like that too. I don't care if you call them a rake or a siren, their energy can be quite dangerous and seductive. And the result is the same regardless of gender.
I clicked on this specifically, because I knew there was gonna be someone saying that “not only women can be sirens” 🙄🙄🙄 men can’t be sirens…they can manipulative but not seductive
In my life I've seen from a distance a couple of women like this. There's something terrifying about them, because you feel an immediate lust (not "love", not "attraction", not "curiosity") towards them but with it also comes the realization that if you were to entangle with them you'd absolutely lose control over every aspect of life, and that it would be the end of you. Very frightening.
The balance is to absolutely under any circumstances not let that women’s sexual energy completely blind you to point of vulnerability. Enjoy her energy for what it is; perhaps a once in a lifetime chance to experience something not attainable everyday…. Let things be what they are instead of trying to twist reality to fit a certain fantasy…. Not that bringing some fantasy to the table in those moments is a bad thing, but just don’t be trapped in to thinking that she will fulfill all of your fantasies…. People are flawed and boring at times. So again, enjoy/explore/exploit that energy all you wish, just don’t place expectations Also, I hope Robert is well now I always liked his content
@Red NLS A lot of phrases like "social convention" (among other's) Rollo quotes are FROM Robert Greene. And if you've read any of his books you can hear it in Rollos speech and understanding. Not trying to downplay Rollo's contribution but I think Robert's knowledge is a degree higher than Rollo's. RG he understands female nature to a degree higher then Rollo.
Modern day Sirens can be identified by how messy her car is. I don’t understand why this is true, but in my experience, it is. The girl with 3 empty coffee cups in the front seat is going to rock your world and possibly ruin your life because you can’t let go of her body. Her sexual charisma is off the charts, otherworldly, once in a lifetime.. if you can tame her, you are a king amongst men.
I Almost married a woman like that, We could walk into any place, without her saying one word, all the men in the room concentrate their attention on her. I never was able to figure out what the reason was until this moment when I watch your video finally I had to give up because it was extremely difficult.
you would have to transition to mother/caretaker archetype to raise a child and siren and mother are opposites really because a mother defends and protects while siren attracts and actively steps into danger, a masculine equivalent would be something like warrior into king archetype these can apply to both men and women but the gender part of it is important for understanding their relationship to other archetypes
@@jonathanmaloney4842 there are those mothers who never did a transition from sirens to mothers…the kids seem to receive the transference, the mother treating them and taking advantage of them as they did with the male partners.
The women in my family are all sirens. I always joke that what if the folklore was true and we have siren blood for real because it’s crazy. We all have this alluring magnetism and as a woman who’s not a user, I can say it hurts more than it helps. If you are a woman who wants to use men or be a sugar baby or something ok but when you don’t care about your looks or attractiveness much and don’t care about attention it’s just a problem. Men want to get to know you and get infatuated and put you on a pedastal. They make you into their fantasy and when they find out you aren’t that, they get very angry. I haven’t had anyone like me for me or get to know me fully. Then all my exes are still obsessed and find some way to contact me every so often. I tell everyone not to give out my new number but obviously some people didn’t listen. I just want someone to see me for me and to like what they see. Give me room to grow and just be and I’ll do the same for them.
I don’t think it’s about reputation. I think the male psyche reaches an apotheosis at the metaphorical level where the theory of the abandon of the self is intoxicating
@Glendolyn Minxalyn because self abandonment means no more responsibilities and no more guilt for past failings. Take the Lion King as an example. "Hakuna matata". Simba abandoned himself when he took on this life motto. He abandoned his identity as heir, the responsibility therein to justly rule the kingdom, and the guilt he felt for his part in his father's death.
@Glendolyn Minxalyn i would say it shouldn't be a cycle at all. Hopefully a person learns that self abandonment is just delaying personal growth. We should accept our pasts as lessons and move forward.
@@nardoritardeau2291 man I'm across the world in asia alone I left my home to really go out and see if I could live without money and reading this comment at 1:22am got me in tears I needed this - no worries -sell everything and follow me
@@bonnsterthemonster It attracks the undesirables. I just now at the age of 49 met a man that brings it. And we are about to take the world by storm. I have finally found a man that has the same essence as me. And truly appreciates me for who I truly am. And values me for all my qualities. I can't wait to tackle the universe with him. I am no longer Isolated into a corner where I serve only one purpose.
Have you guys watched the Documentary done by Pamela Lee? Man, she is a force to be reckoned with. Her personality is so amazing! She lived her life on a razors edge trying to find love. I respect that girl to no end.
I’ve been told this many times from men on a dating app. I’m not trying to be that way & it seems to intimidate a few, I take care of myself, stay fit & petite, I’m polite but, very honest & upfront in my core values. I dress nicely & im a nurse. Yet it seems true Alpha makes are rare
Well, her power came from her looks (youth) and from her personality (daring, bold, confident, illustrious, proud, intelligent, .. ).. so .. without those she wouldn't have power
I completely understand what your saying true red pill. I’ve switched over to this side awhile back… have had measurable success, however being a genuine respectful person walking in authenticity with great friends of 20 years and family, operating this way dissatisfaction games always staying on your toes knowing of there true nature takes the wholesomeness and drive out of the equation for me. This is truth society did a great job covering truth up with Disneyland manipulation. But games aren’t for a genuine soul I don’t accept this BS so I don’t play no more I’m much happier🙏💯
I've been told that I am a siren. And I don't want to be. It's a curse. Being approached all the time by guys/Men is so annoying. I just want to be left alone. I really don't understand it. It's happened my entire life.
Everything make sense now… I am a siren men often tell me I’m “dangerous” and I never understood what they meant by this… I know I have power over a man. I have always believe it was a gift from god… I embrace my sexual energy it truly is my passion. I love that I can take a man’s worry and stress away with Just my presence. It can be dangerous at times as a lot of men I date become addicted to me… I’ve had a few stalkers I am very careful of who I choose to engage with and often offer after care… I do my best to take care of them and treats them with kindness.
Well, yeah! In fact if I'm not mistaken when Marc Anthony went to Egypt to speak with Cleopatra Julius Caesar gave him one piece of advice and that was, "Do not fall in love with with her." Now if you know anything about the history of the two empires you know that it didn't end very well for Antony and Cleopatra
I would never have thought that I would hear that from the man who wrote about the “rake” and the “dandy”. I’ve always thought of them as the male equivalent of the siren.
@@f3042 That’s what I basically said too, with different words. But why would he emphasize that only women Can be sirens. By emphasizing that he is implictly implying that there no male equivalent could ever exist. Do you follow?
@@seamr05 I think that there are qualities specific to women and qualities specific to men. Those differences call for different titles/names to tell them apart.
@@seamr05 If you just think about the normal male/female dynamic in heterosexual relationships/courtships…I think it will make more sense. He explains all that stuff in the many interviews and books one can find.
It does for sure... But when you ooze an intense energy, it has the power to even overshadow your appearance... You can look so-so and seduce the millions... Because in the long run, there is much more than just the exterior
Honestly men can be sirens too. Anyone who has overt sexual energy/physical attraction, it’s common in rappers for example. they even follow the sing song part from the Greek myth too! I usually agree with Robert 100% but it’s kinda dumb to say only women can be something because there are tons of effeminate men and even more masculine women (in recent times) he prolly just don’t look at men and think “oh shit ur sexy and I feel ur sexual energy” cuz he straight. I am too, but I’m still willing to recognize it’s not only women who can have these attributes. Also I am a producer/musician so I have been around a lot of guys who make girls swoooon, and I’ve even been him when I’m in the right spiritual state. He’s spot on with everything he said here except the only women can be it part, but I think whenever you make a absolute statement about earth and reality it’s automatically wrong. People are all different, taking your focus off of yourself and placing it on other people opens the universe to you. u taught me that 1 Robert!!!
I agree with Robert. He's not saying there's not a masculine manifestation he's saying that the female manifestation exudes an overly feminine aura of sexuality. The masculine exist but under a different set of parameters. I'm not so sure but I believe a physically imposing yet welcoming persona is one of these traits.
That’s me , it’s taken me years to actually get a connection with a man that doesn’t feel it in the sexual sense , but rather feels it flow through his chakras Most men I’ve met in the past have blocked root chakras , so I used ti attract men that were purely only attracted sexually because my energy can be so over powering I’m 49 and I’ve met my match
Lots of sirens reading through comments silently.
Lol, I had the same exact thought.
😂😂😂 Thats Me! 😊
@@GreeneChakra that's a lot of us 🤣😂🤣😂
😂😂😂
@@sandywhat2429 LOL Yes. I was going to say, if you recognize this about yourself you do NOT admit it. Lol
You’ve just described my best friend of over fifty years…… she died two years ago. Men went nuts over her because they were in her presence. Not especially beautiful but very very bright. Explaining her essence is difficult, but essentially she “always had her keys in her ignition “….. I miss her daily. Even as a friend she is/was irreplaceable.❤
Very interesting.Can you talk more her please? What was her personality like ?
Write about her. I would read it!
Yeah write about her personality, communication style, behaviour, character and some little spicy things you saw
I m sure you can write an essay on her coz the way you tell us about her shows you know much more
@@aryanyadav3942 Agreed with the second part
I got a kick just reading about her. Thanks for sharing even just a little bit of her.
Cleopatra was also very intelligent ! Knew several other languages and was well read. I’m sure she could go toe to toe with the best which is why leaders loved her
Cleopatra was black
@@LadySekhmet-Returns nope.
@@YtdeletesallmycommentsWell Yes and No. She most likely had a mixed complexion. Almost like how they portrayed her in the Rome series from the early 2000’s.
@@BozeDoesGodsWork😂😂😂😂😂
Or a master manipulator. She worshipped false gods aka Satan rooted. She didn't have any true power though, just worldly kind.
Yes, it's mainly confidence that has that energy. You just have to know how to protect yourself from insecurity and not let other peoples' sayings get into you.
Other way around.
❤
Not confidence.. It’s legit siren 🚨.. like he described.. I had it and didn’t know how describe it until I saw this clip.. You’ll feel it from the back of the room once you look at her. Mostly women, yes. For men we carry confidence not sirens… Sirens are very dangerous. Stay away. I’ve been there.
@@SSKA57 I don't know if this means if I'm a siren or not then
@@nuggie2253 lol some sirens don’t even know they are sirens. It’s not the confidence you feel when talking to men that’s fine. It’s the feeling men have when talking to you “they feel the siren” not you.. you either know you have it or still don’t know. Or know if have it at all, you may not have it. Only “experienced” men can tell.. I fell for it when I wasn’t. Now I’m experienced I can tell from a mile away.. It comes with experience and knowledge like affectively trying to understand what happened not just move on to next person/ relationship after a failed one
this seems more like a curse, because you're desirable to the extent that you're a mystery. You're a novelty. Novelties, by definition, do not last long. Nobody wants intensity or hazards looming over their heads day to day.
True, it is not lasting
It’s a lovely tool to get what you want from people and keep them at arms length.
Sure “lorelei” 😂
U attract others by looks and u keep them by character … lucky are those who got both.
Lasting is a concept of time. Sirens are timeless as we live outside of normal realms. Regular concepts dont apply to us
I agree. Robert is the main seducer.
Lol
CLEOPATRA!!!...All BLACK WOMEN ARE YESSSSSSSS!!!
@@kevinwilliams6587 no
@@kevinwilliams6587 Cleopatra was Greek
@@kevinwilliams6587 No. Statistically speaking when you look at dating sites, black women are less desirable.
I can tell u first hand sirens are real. Got involved with one & let me tell u their energy can be overwhelming. And when they leave there is a massive void left. I hope I never get involved with another one for as long as I live.
I strongly agree. Just broke up with one recently too.. Very devastating. It’s like they live on sucking your energy and draining you.. Was she bipolar too?? Mine was…. I felt siren with another one at the gym once I saw her and gave me a smile. I went to say hi it was cool conversation like always in the beginning. But boy did I feel same draining energy and siren kept running on for days in my body. I ran with my life. It took couple days to shake it off. Now I see them I look away in couple seconds and it’s over.. I’m much more immunized now. First relationship took a bit over a year.
@@SSKA57 firstly I’m glad you got away from these women, and I can’t say for sure if mine was bipolar but I’m almost positive she was, especially towards the end. The more comfortable they get the more their true nature rears it’s ugly head. And dude yes I know what you mean, now I can spot a siren pretty quickly…something about the eyes with them. And it also took me about a year and half to get over my first encounter.
@@SSKA57 these women are like vampires, and yes vampires are real their just not the fanged blood sucking monsters that Hollywood portrays. No, vampires are more subtle they drain your energy/life force.
These sirens/vampires can never have enough, they will bleed you dry if you let them. These sirens have mastered the art of seduction, they embody the essence of female sexuality in the most pervasive ways which is way they’re so dangerous. Good luck to you my friend 💯
@@jy7duality you’re absolutely right something is with their eyes. In particular the pupils , are extremely wide open. I noticed that in her. And I wouldn’t know if she was bipolar if I didn’t ask her by chance then. Now I purposely ask and have it as a red flag. I dated a bipolar before her but it wasn’t this siren energy, and it was short lived. This one sucked me in like black hole about a year and a half today, still living the aftermath recovery of strong magnets to get back god forbid.. But I totally feel you brother. Stay strong. And don’t give up to find the feminine sweet girl. Ask all questions if she’s bipolar or have anxiety etc,, even body count (less is better) and about her past and how she ended each previous relationship if she talk $hit about them she’ll talk the same about you so stay away. Also stay away from feminists. Man I can go on and on. I learned A LOT. But definitely left me heart broken so badly I still hurt after 2 months now. Good luck to you too my friend.
Damn fr?
The only time I've ever been blown away by a woman an overweight girl (and I don't just mean chubby, but not morbidly obese either). I was heading out of the club and this girl (a friend of my cousin) handed me a glass of wine as I was saying goodbye to my cousin, and she asked me to stay. The way she said it and carried herself left me in shock, and I've never experienced that since.
yep; I hear ya. Know exactly what you mean.
So did you nail her or what? 🤷
@@msdemeanour lol
@@msdemeanour 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Could you please describe how that was, did she asked you softly but firm or more dominant and assertive?
Personality is everything.
When man is in control of himself and I can explain this way because I am a Christian and the Bible says: walk in the spirit and you will not be lured by the desires of the flesh. In such a state you can meet this siren and not be affected by her at all. You can admire her, even like her, but it will have no dominance over you. Because what is in you, the Spirit of God, is stronger than what is in her. This is the story of my life of before and after I met the Lord.
Amen brother
Yesss
Reminds me also of proverbs 7🙌
Yeah don't get by the Jezebels
Yeah don't get tempted by the jezebels.
My friend Alex absolutely was textbook Siren. Not at all beautiful (great eyes though!) but the way she moved was kinda fluid, subtle but slinky like a big cat, or when tall grass rippling in a breeze. Hard to describe, but mesmerisizing.
We tried to get her to teach us to walk like her but failed miserably 🤣🤣
And she just exuded absolute self confidence.
Extraordinary girl. And a real laugh. Not up herself at all.
Coolest person I think I’ve ever met. Definitely a bit of a girl crush on her back then.
Do u have her ig? Just curious haha
That’s what ppl don’t get. What creates the siren is usually some sort of trauma, or rather how their personality develops because of the trauma they experienced.
What makes them so alluring is that they don’t know what they are doing or the affect they have on people. They are naturally magnetic and don’t know how to turn off the charm.
Sounds like a person suffering from borderline personality disorder
@@daniellefennell3877 That’s definitely a possibility
you are for sure a human/person with a big empathy!
Don’t know how to turn off charm. Interesting
Accurate
"Beauty is a cruel mistress "
But some times it's not beauty is what he is saying it's something else it's an attraction that pulls you in to someone who you never thought would call your attention
@@eveapple5959 yeah, the impression I got, from men I worked with a few years ago, was that I was sexy, because I was smart. I think that, for them, I was an anomaly, because they felt, “Heck, she’s smart AND black!” Plus there’s all those stereotypes about how good we are in bed. But, trust me, I am not sexy and I wasn’t trying to be. I was just being me. Apparently, men are not always attracted to women they don’t think are smart.
@@privateprivate8366 Only men who have know education think that way an educated man loves an educated woman because they can have a real conversation about anything and everything and actually talk that's what made you sexy to them and that's what will keep making you sex. But to a man who has very lil education they see you has a threat not because you are but because in a man's world there are two types of men real men or thug's who say they are men. And it's always up to the woman to decide the type she chooses
@@eveapple5959 it can become even more complicated.
The guy who was after me the most, was the company president. Not extensively educated. But a college degree.
I also had a theory that he might be trying to actually ruin me and my career. Had there been an affair, which would’ve surely gotten out as, even his staring did, I’d have been considered the company slut and he’d have landed on his feet. My parents were black educators and didn’t lead the most private life. As my boss was the type to investigate you and eavesdrop, if he was interested, only to confirm what he’d found, by asking occasional questions, I figured he might know my parents lives pretty well. He may have actually disliked what they were into and, perhaps, thought that, through me, he could blow that all up. Can’t say I ever actually got that vibe from him, but I did consider it.
So, there are so many types of situations and complexities out there. But still, it can boil down to the bare minimum. I was considered smart, but I was also unmarried, no children, not dating and, perhaps, a bit of a challenge, because he tried to control me, unsuccessfully. Wasn’t even sure if he fired another guy, because that guy was married, but interested, too. I’ll never know.
& exciting muse!
This man i love him so much, thanks for existing Robert!!!
had a siren when I was 23, learned the big lesson with her, not falling for it again
Can you explain more? How was the experience? What did you learn? About her past
I am a siren. Been told about my energy by people. That its either sensual or mysterious or light.
It means appearing like a dirty slut basically...
Or perhaps self absorbed?🤔
@@dollynina8992lmao
I have been described like that to the point I am almost feared. The funny thing is I am compassionate and kindhearted. People are very surprised that I am spiritual and attend church regularly. I think it is my cool confidence and unbothered vibe that I inherited from my father.
The other person can be whatever. But its always the weakness in you that you allow the other to take over you. So remember even if a siren is around its ur incapability of strength that makes you fall at her feat.
THIS … they are predators, they need a weakness to prey upon.
@@salihashahid9526 wrong.
true, relative deprivation at best
The irony is that Greene says Cleopatra wasn't traditionally/objectively beautiful because of her long nose but a long/aquiline nose in a woman is something I find particularly attractive so I would argue the reason for her being a siren was that she was in fact beautiful but alas, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
This is from the point of view of the damaged Divine Masculine. The damaged Divine Masculine is that one who at first runs away from the divine feminine. The difference is that depending on whether the woman has developed a healthy divine feminine (lots of patience, being unfazed and nom-reactive towards the running away of the damaged divine masculine), or a damaged divine feminine. The trick is to balance within yourself both, your divine feminine and your divine masculine. When both of them are regulated and balanced within yourself, then you don’t develop the negative traits that are attributed to damaged divines masculine and feminine. An unregulated divine feminine for example will either
1. Cut the balls of her man (metaphorically speaking*), that happens when her divine masculine is stronger within herself than her divine feminine.
Or
2. Have an anxious attachment style and let herself be disrespected by the divine masculine (that happens when her divine feminine is more prominent than her divine masculine).
Men also have this same issue but in reverse. Men with an excess of or unregulated divine masculine see love as a war/battlefield where they must defend, hide, run and protect themselves. That’s an unregulated divine masculine. His divine feminine is less prominent, so he lacks or has less characteristics of the divine feminine. The key is to regulate them within yourself and balance them. When you are feeling “alone” of you are without another person it is because one of your divines is not present or not prominent enough to make you feel balanced within.
The greatest objective is to fill up your cup first, give to yourself first all the things that you’d like to give to the other person that you like/love. Your own divine feminine can nourish your divine masculine and your own divine masculine can protect and make your divine feminine feel safe and loved.
It seems to me that Robert has an unregulated divine feminine and that’s why he see women as dangerous sirens.
Wow, so valuable information! Thank you for sharing.
🤔 that last part
Wow! Very interesting!, ✨
Get a real hobby instead of this horse crap.
Damn son something always looked off with Robert but I couldn't world it, thanks man
Trust me it’s not fun. I also feel sirens can be healers or destroyers. With Great power comes great responsibility.
Can’t even lie all the girls I’ve ever really fell for were the ones who were just very pleasant and easy to be around. Yeah they were pretty but their personalities really made me stay longer than I should’ve and it really helped me click with them since they were so pleasant but not overbearing with energy like other girls who are too friendly or very “dry” in response.
My first gf in high school was a siren and I had no idea she was. I was so attracted to her madly, it was just crazy. I read The Art Of Seduction and then I met another girl last year and she gave off the same vibe and it clicked. She was a siren too, I have met 3 sirens in my life and boy their pull is strong.
Did you fall in love with all of them??
@@losmit2194 My high sch gf, yes the others NO and that was because I ran.
@@ayoadesina6416what is that energy? Who is a siren? Pliz tell me
@vashu A siren is a woman, not necessarily beautiful who has this magentic pull on men. They have this inviting aura about them, they everything with grace, they are smooth , men are attracted to them even though they try to deny or fight it. They are bad news for men
An example is Angelina Jolie
@@ayoadesina6416 Sonwhat is the man version called?
I feel like one woman can embody all the seductresses to different men. beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Plus it's not necessarily about men. A seducer is a seducer period.
I have experienced this energy and seen men falling for her like stars falling 🌠 and getting destroyed emotionally. She is so powerful that men who are 30 years elder to her and also men who are 30 years younger to her, were victim of her intense energy. If you lucky to get her attention and audiance, in her company, its like playing with fire 🔥 which everyone wants a piece of it but no one get that... she just uses them and give them a false hope of her charming lust....that's her beauty.
Nah, If she is 30 years older than a man, she is over 40, no young man is falling hard for an old Hag, trust me.
@@billyrj973 well i have told the facts ... perhaps it's a very unique situation... One in billion.
Very biblical can't remember which proverbs
It’s all about energy…❤
"The Art of Seduction" is an absolute must read. If haven't already, please do it. 🔥
That book is a pure gold.
THIS IS KNOWLEDGE 101 AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.
This is the first time hearing this and it's So true how he explains it . People said I was sensual, sexy. I didn't try to be at all. It affected some of my jobs. It wasn't fair. What are you supposed to do?
Do you believe in love and relationship?
Treat the siren with honesty and don't betray her.
And what does she do? Does she do anything at all? Or she just is? I met a siren once. She protected a lot of her trauma on me.
Yes, even when she lies & betrays you & when you’re ready to leave, do it with grace.
This is so off topic
you are for sure a human/person with big empathy!
Maybe the siren should do the same. You
Because I think personality is also BEAUTY
Robert u r helping more than anyone. ❤
I disagree that only women can be sirens, I’ve known a few guys like that.
Just exude sexuality and danger about them, not technically good looking, just magnetic auras.
I think he means according to the mythology.
They’re not Sirens, they are Rakes
I've met two men like that too. I don't care if you call them a rake or a siren, their energy can be quite dangerous and seductive. And the result is the same regardless of gender.
Elvis
I clicked on this specifically, because I knew there was gonna be someone saying that “not only women can be sirens” 🙄🙄🙄 men can’t be sirens…they can manipulative but not seductive
In my life I've seen from a distance a couple of women like this. There's something terrifying about them, because you feel an immediate lust (not "love", not "attraction", not "curiosity") towards them but with it also comes the realization that if you were to entangle with them you'd absolutely lose control over every aspect of life, and that it would be the end of you. Very frightening.
How to overcome such situation?
The balance is to absolutely under any circumstances not let that women’s sexual energy completely blind you to point of vulnerability.
Enjoy her energy for what it is; perhaps a once in a lifetime chance to experience something not attainable everyday….
Let things be what they are instead of trying to twist reality to fit a certain fantasy…. Not that bringing some fantasy to the table in those moments is a bad thing, but just don’t be trapped in to thinking that she will fulfill all of your fantasies….
People are flawed and boring at times.
So again, enjoy/explore/exploit that energy all you wish, just don’t place expectations
Also, I hope Robert is well now I always liked his content
I think that’s a spirit, that anyone can embody.
well also she's a leader of a whole nation. maybe that's kinda gives her a LITTLE BIT of come get me aura, yknow.
Chicken or egg. Sirens wrathful song or sailor's purposeful deafness.
The woman is just being herself. Nothing wrong with being confident. Its the men falling for them badly. And guys can be that way too
I fell for a girl like this, almost consciously ran my life into a brick wall😂 lovely experience, don't recommend, but also don't regret it
inlimited sex and she did everything. am I correct? and a psycho😁
🤭
Me making any life decision in general-
"Don't recommend but also don't regret it"
👍🏼🤣
😂😂😂 I can relate….I even wrote letters.
Men also hate that about women. I turned my sexual energy off for my own health and safety and now so many men complain about sexless marriages. 🥴
Yep. They don't know what they want anymore. I've given up.
How do you turn it off?
I live like a monk now. Silent and sexless.
But i cant turn it off. It is me.
PS Men are lying. 🤣🤣🤣
Can you explain why would any man want his wife to turn her sexual energy off?
I can only imagine how he goes through life with the knowledge he has. He should link with Rollo tommasi
Why keep linking why can't we stay to ourselves?!
@Red NLS A lot of phrases like "social convention" (among other's) Rollo quotes are FROM Robert Greene. And if you've read any of his books you can hear it in Rollos speech and understanding. Not trying to downplay Rollo's contribution but I think Robert's knowledge is a degree higher than Rollo's. RG he understands female nature to a degree higher then Rollo.
«Beauty behind the madness» sounds about right.
My ex wife was a siren. I know exactly what he means. I’ve experienced it. She destroyed many men before and after me.
After?
Thank you Mr Green
Modern day Sirens can be identified by how messy her car is.
I don’t understand why this is true, but in my experience, it is. The girl with 3 empty coffee cups in the front seat is going to rock your world and possibly ruin your life because you can’t let go of her body. Her sexual charisma is off the charts, otherworldly, once in a lifetime.. if you can tame her, you are a king amongst men.
LOLOL You aren’t wrong 🤣
😂😂😂
Judging an entire personally because of a car, you sound very smart
These historical precedents are mind-blowing and important to know when operating in today’s society.
I Almost married a woman like that,
We could walk into any place, without her saying one word, all the men in the room concentrate their attention on her. I never was able to figure out what the reason was until this moment when I watch your video finally I had to give up because it was extremely difficult.
Why didn’t you get married? You didn’t like the fact that she received attention?
@@f3042 men dont want an attractive one.
Only a narc as a trophee. For a while. Cant keep her.
Insecure…..
This why every women should move according because of such power.
Watching the video i suddenly remembered a couple of girls who really fit to this description.
Avoid them
@@I_Ace hahaha 🤣
Angelina Jolie comes to mind
SAME!!! That calm “im here… but I don’t need to announce it” presence
Exactly my thoughts!!
Sophia Loren too
@@dantoinettetaylor1663 and Raquel Welch
Yes you are right
It’s a blessing and a curse. What happens when a siren wants to marry and have a traditional life?
She needs to develop a different mindset and personality
siren is archetypal construct, people are people dont identify w labels
you would have to transition to mother/caretaker archetype to raise a child and siren and mother are opposites really because a mother defends and protects while siren attracts and actively steps into danger, a masculine equivalent would be something like warrior into king archetype these can apply to both men and women but the gender part of it is important for understanding their relationship to other archetypes
@@jonathanmaloney4842 I like your description - Dr. Jung
@@jonathanmaloney4842 there are those mothers who never did a transition from sirens to mothers…the kids seem to receive the transference, the mother treating them and taking advantage of them as they did with the male partners.
Brilliant. Love this man.
Instagram doesn’t help…. The sirens just get louder lol
Those are just hoes, not sirens 😂
Yah, those aren’t sirens.. those are THOTs
I really didn't know that Robert Greene was referring to Scorpio Women. 👍🏽 I get it now. I get it.
Nah my mom is a scorpio and she had such horrible luck in love her whole life. No man ever wanted her, she didn’t get married until 50 haha
The women in my family are all sirens. I always joke that what if the folklore was true and we have siren blood for real because it’s crazy. We all have this alluring magnetism and as a woman who’s not a user, I can say it hurts more than it helps. If you are a woman who wants to use men or be a sugar baby or something ok but when you don’t care about your looks or attractiveness much and don’t care about attention it’s just a problem. Men want to get to know you and get infatuated and put you on a pedastal. They make you into their fantasy and when they find out you aren’t that, they get very angry. I haven’t had anyone like me for me or get to know me fully. Then all my exes are still obsessed and find some way to contact me every so often. I tell everyone not to give out my new number but obviously some people didn’t listen. I just want someone to see me for me and to like what they see. Give me room to grow and just be and I’ll do the same for them.
I know exactly what you mean. You’re not alone.
Nah, just live the fantasy! Don't worry about being "real" for the world is fake... Just a game. Just use your power to get you way. That's it
Fun Fact: Cleopatra was also very rich and her power and wealth helped Ceasear.
You missed Anne Boyelyn. Cleopatra was already royality.
I have met many of men who act like this and we don't call them evil or sirens. Women get blamed for everything.
Definitely, I want to have this siren
Cleopatra was beautiful
I’m a siren for sure . When I don’t make the sailors crash into the shore . I’m a nice one . ❤️
I don’t think it’s about reputation. I think the male psyche reaches an apotheosis at the metaphorical level where the theory of the abandon of the self is intoxicating
@Glendolyn Minxalyn Some people want a break from who they are
Sounds like you swallowed a thesaurus and washed it down bourbon.
@Glendolyn Minxalyn because self abandonment means no more responsibilities and no more guilt for past failings. Take the Lion King as an example. "Hakuna matata". Simba abandoned himself when he took on this life motto. He abandoned his identity as heir, the responsibility therein to justly rule the kingdom, and the guilt he felt for his part in his father's death.
@Glendolyn Minxalyn i would say it shouldn't be a cycle at all. Hopefully a person learns that self abandonment is just delaying personal growth. We should accept our pasts as lessons and move forward.
@@nardoritardeau2291 man I'm across the world in asia alone I left my home to really go out and see if I could live without money and reading this comment at 1:22am got me in tears I needed this
- no worries
-sell everything and follow me
It sucks to be viewed this way. Being deemed a siren is very isolating.
Yes but I think you mean ostracized. A siren approaches, not isolates.
We walk the path we choose.
Yes. Because women instantly hate you and the men who will actually talk to you are just watching your lips move. No one can see beyond the obvious.
@@bonnsterthemonster It attracks the undesirables. I just now at the age of 49 met a man that brings it. And we are about to take the world by storm. I have finally found a man that has the same essence as me. And truly appreciates me for who I truly am. And values me for all my qualities. I can't wait to tackle the universe with him. I am no longer Isolated into a corner where I serve only one purpose.
Have you guys watched the Documentary done by Pamela Lee? Man, she is a force to be reckoned with. Her personality is so amazing! She lived her life on a razors edge trying to find love. I respect that girl to no end.
I’ve been told this many times from men on a dating app. I’m not trying to be that way & it seems to intimidate a few, I take care of myself, stay fit & petite, I’m polite but, very honest & upfront in my core values. I dress nicely & im a nurse. Yet it seems true Alpha makes are rare
What if a guy loves you? How to handle that situation?
It wasn’t cleopatras personality or looks - it was her power.
Well, her power came from her looks (youth) and from her personality (daring, bold, confident, illustrious, proud, intelligent, .. ).. so .. without those she wouldn't have power
Power ? Men are not attracted to power.
To have people write her in a way she wanted. LOL.
I completely understand what your saying true red pill. I’ve switched over to this side awhile back… have had measurable success, however being a genuine respectful person walking in authenticity with great friends of 20 years and family, operating this way dissatisfaction games always staying on your toes knowing of there true nature takes the wholesomeness and drive out of the equation for me. This is truth society did a great job covering truth up with Disneyland manipulation. But games aren’t for a genuine soul I don’t accept this BS so I don’t play no more I’m much happier🙏💯
Been reading Robert Green books for 4 years now
Or as Hall and Oates put it, "Maneater".
You got it! 💥💥💥💥
Wow! Amazing wisdom.
There is a song about this type of female « Jolene» .
Yes and the woman wants her too.
I've been told that I am a siren. And I don't want to be. It's a curse. Being approached all the time by guys/Men is so annoying. I just want to be left alone. I really don't understand it. It's happened my entire life.
Once you learn you can see
VERY TRUE !! ❤
❤❤❤very Well Said❤❤❤❤more Power to you Bro.
True, and most beautiful women I've know and just seen did not have sex appeal.
You are really teaching me something new okay and I believe that
We have one in Warsaw, she comes from Baltic sea through river to protect city on it's own against invasion
Are you kidding?
Everything make sense now… I am a siren men often tell me I’m “dangerous” and I never understood what they meant by this… I know I have power over a man. I have always believe it was a gift from god… I embrace my sexual energy it truly is my passion. I love that I can take a man’s worry and stress away with Just my presence. It can be dangerous at times as a lot of men I date become addicted to me… I’ve had a few stalkers I am very careful of who I choose to engage with and often offer after care… I do my best to take care of them and treats them with kindness.
But how love to love a woman like you? What's your age btw?
Absolutely 100% correct
Well, yeah! In fact if I'm not mistaken when Marc Anthony went to Egypt to speak with Cleopatra Julius Caesar gave him one piece of advice and that was, "Do not fall in love with with her." Now if you know anything about the history of the two empires you know that it didn't end very well for Antony and Cleopatra
I love you're gift of info
I would never have thought that I would hear that from the man who wrote about the “rake” and the “dandy”. I’ve always thought of them as the male equivalent of the siren.
They are.
The female version is called a Siren and the male version is called a Rake.
@@f3042 That’s what I basically said too, with different words. But why would he emphasize that only women Can be sirens. By emphasizing that he is implictly implying that there no male equivalent could ever exist. Do you follow?
@@seamr05 I think that there are qualities specific to women and qualities specific to men. Those differences call for different titles/names to tell them apart.
@@f3042 aha! I see. But what are they? He says that the siren as female is the epitome of seduction and not much more…
@@seamr05 If you just think about the normal male/female dynamic in heterosexual relationships/courtships…I think it will make more sense. He explains all that stuff in the many interviews and books one can find.
Excellent content.
Sounds like you describe a narcissist. They are exciting in the beginning😂
Yes. I've been trying to spread this around. Saw comments like"its called self confidence" from girls . Couldn't hold myself.
😂
Looks matter now more than ever.
It does for sure... But when you ooze an intense energy, it has the power to even overshadow your appearance... You can look so-so and seduce the millions... Because in the long run, there is much more than just the exterior
Honestly men can be sirens too. Anyone who has overt sexual energy/physical attraction, it’s common in rappers for example. they even follow the sing song part from the Greek myth too! I usually agree with Robert 100% but it’s kinda dumb to say only women can be something because there are tons of effeminate men and even more masculine women (in recent times) he prolly just don’t look at men and think “oh shit ur sexy and I feel ur sexual energy” cuz he straight. I am too, but I’m still willing to recognize it’s not only women who can have these attributes. Also I am a producer/musician so I have been around a lot of guys who make girls swoooon, and I’ve even been him when I’m in the right spiritual state. He’s spot on with everything he said here except the only women can be it part, but I think whenever you make a absolute statement about earth and reality it’s automatically wrong. People are all different, taking your focus off of yourself and placing it on other people opens the universe to you. u taught me that 1 Robert!!!
Any rappers or musicians you can think of?
Examples perhaps
Im not trying to disagree but remember that by saying "all absolute statements are false" is an absolute statement. 😅
I agree with Robert. He's not saying there's not a masculine manifestation he's saying that the female manifestation exudes an overly feminine aura of sexuality. The masculine exist but under a different set of parameters. I'm not so sure but I believe a physically imposing yet welcoming persona is one of these traits.
Nice description
That’s me , it’s taken me years to actually get a connection with a man that doesn’t feel it in the sexual sense , but rather feels it flow through his chakras
Most men I’ve met in the past have blocked root chakras , so I used ti attract men that were purely only attracted sexually because my energy can be so over powering
I’m 49 and I’ve met my match
Demon!
@@RainbowBandana ??? Please enlighten me
Somewhere there’s a guy in a dress that claims he can be a siren too.
😂😂😂
thank you for your advice. I'm happy every time I hear it. I see your kyninspiration advice to me and I appreciate it
Thats why i crushed on azula
Men can be something like a siren...they call us "Badboys"😎
Robert was Top G before Andrew Tate claimed the title 💪.
It’s called borderline personality disorder
😂😂 good one
@@emilyburford6462 haha thanks🫶
My ex definitely read this shit or was born with it. Its crazy because now its time for me to study both books.
Men can be sirens too ☺️
Sirens are definitely scorpio women😂
Right ✅️
I hate to think that men will shy away from these woman. We need cuddles too.
Lana Del Rey gives huge Siren energy