When uncle Crinacle said he listened to the feedback on the Zero 1 and added MORE BASS, he meant it. For a 25 buck IEM this amount of bass while still having a great tuning is not just fun, it's hilarious and mindblowing!
I whish I would have found your video sooner it is very informative and entertaining as well. I was wondering if getting the zero2 as I have the original would be worth it. Thanks to your video I know that I would probably be disappointed with the zero2 and one I should actually avoid. You addressed the questions I had about details retrieval, how spacious they sound ,imaging, air.. I doubted it being as good then the original from the graphs but due to the new driver I couldn't just assume based on the graph. Thanks again for this wonderful video and keep jazzing.
Nice review! I got my pair in three days ago, and so far, I love em'. Compared to the OG Zero, I actually find the Zero 2s sit more comfortably in my ears. Given the similar shell design, this might come down to the way the wire sits along the top of my ears, and affects the angle of the shells. Sound-wise, I'm super impressed with these. The Zeros were close, but the shoutiness in the upper frequencies made them too fatiguing. Yes, there's a sub and mid-bass boost with this new model, but it's tastefully done, and like you mention, doesn't bleed into the mids. Another note on the cable: this softer material is actually more comfortable, and alleviates one of the issues with the original cable. When wearing glasses, the plasticky bit on the ear hook for the original would rub against them, and the friction would create this unpleasant sound. With the new materials of the Zero 2 cable, this doesn't happen at all. In this price-range, I also own the Chu, Chu 2, Lan (a bit pricier, but close), 7hz Zero and the Truthear Hola. The Zero 2 is now my new personal favorite in this bracket, and frankly, it puts up a respectable performance relative to the Truthear Hexa. The Hexas sound better...but the Zero 2s are slightly more comfortable. For longer sessions, it'll be the Zero 2.
@@primtve_dope9568I do prefer them, yes. The fit is better, more tips included, better cable, and the tuning is more to my liking. It's not a night and day difference, but it's a step up in my view.
I have the original zero and the balance between the bass all the way to highs is wonderful. The treble is a little much but can easily be tamed with thicker narrow bore eartips. I would have liked to see the zero 2 to be like original zero with just 3 or so db less in the treble peek and of course this new style ect..
I have the originals too. I use em with a balanced cable and the fiio btr5. Still blown away by how good they sound for the price. Compared to my shp 9500’s it might not be as good but those are openback and an over the ear pair. Just ordered the Hifiman he200se as well, excited to see how they compare to the shp9500s and my salnotes. I use the salnotes for jamming out while at the office and for meetings and stuff. It’s awesome.
The nozzles on these are a little over 6mm wide. Why? Back when I used IEMs, I had a hard time getting 5mm nozzles to fit comfortably. I thought manufacturers widened nozzles to accommodate multiple balanced armature drivers, but they eventually started making almost all of them with wide nozzles, whether they had BAs or not.
Hey man! Loved the video. Quick question for you: I used to have the SoundMAGIC E10, but it ended up breaking. My main issue with them was the high frequencies around 8 kHz-they felt too harsh, so I always had to tweak the EQ to tone them down. Now, I mostly listen to K-pop (groups like TWICE, aespa, BLACKPINK, female groups), and some pop-punk too. Do you think this one is an upgrade over the E10, or would you suggest anything else around the same price point? Appreciate any tips you can give!
This also has a peak around 8kHz but it never bothered me. I never tried the E10 so I don't know how it compared in treble quality or quantity. I think this should be fine for you, otherwise consider the Kiwi Ears Cadenza.
I am an Oppo Enco Buds 2 user and am planning to buy my first IEM. I mostly listen to EDM and songs by Anirudh. I'm looking for something with good clarity, vocals, and bass that is not overpowering. I was considering the Tanzu Waner SG, but I heard it lacks bass. I've also been thinking about Zero 2. Could you suggest an IEM under ₹2500 that is enjoyable and lively? Thanks!
Sitting comfy on the kiwi cadenza's still, though might cop these as I loved the first set minus the spicy treble and horrid stock cable. Good to see all the improvements :D
Hey, i have never used iem before it will be my first purchase. Soo which iem would you suggest me among the Hola, Waner, Chu 2, Zero, and the Zero 2. I will use my iem for Music, Movie and Gaming (mostly story games)
I wanted to get OG Zero, then heard about Zero 2 so i waited..and waited then i got TRN Conch instead hahaha..perhaps you can review Conch too, pretty good sounding..
zero 2 is better overall, it has more bass, but still mantains clean sound, and also vocals are more lively than wan'er, wan'er's vocals are a little more forward, but the texture is not as good, zero 2 has strong subass with punch, smoother uppermids, better vocals, more lower treble for a more lively sound, and smooth overall frequency response which makes it easy to eq too
I think I'd like this tuning more than the original but I'm not a fan of that shell for use in bed. So far I've only been using my Kiwi Ears Credenza in bed. With all the competition bringing better performance to a lower price, does the Credenza's performance justify its extra $5-10ish dollars over the Zero 2?
I just send back yesterday my truthear zero red because the 7hz zero1 OG, like is just ridiculous that this 7hz zero worked for me like butter and fit with my taste of everything, if i want more bass i just push the bass enhance in my litte fiio dac, i mean is insane, probably i will get this V2 just because the V1 fit amazing and made me send back 3 IEM back. is kind of end game for me... people can call me mediocre but what should i do, after hours of listening always my favorite is 7hz zero...
I buy the ew200 after your suggestion and they are the best budget iems in my collection. At he second place are for me the ccz coffee bean. Thank you for the excellent tip @@PrimeAudioReviews
i have the moondrop chu 2, planning to get this for my ipod, mainly listen to jazz and 80s pop, how would you compare them? the sound signature for both of them are pretty similar. should i get the original salnotes zero instead?
@@PrimeAudioReviews would it still sound good if i use it directly? I heared that to get the best sound of an IEM you have to use something they called "DAC"?
Hi sir i have blon 03 and kz zst x i find zst x too fatiguing for my liking and blon 03 too bassy now for me is which one would u reco salnotes og or salnotes 2 i will also use it for recording purposes
Thanks for the review. Thinking of getting these, waiting for some more reviews to show up 😅 I haven't heard anyone else mention that this set has lower 4-8khz treble compared to the original. I thought the only treble difference was that nasty 10khz peak, which has been reduced How do these compare against the EW200 in terms of resolution? I wonder if the treble on the EW200 could be fatiguing.
gaming is probably the Kinera Celest Wyvern Pro because it comes with extra mic for gaming. all round? actually wyvern pro is also decent for music, but Chu2 and zero2 also sounds good. as for movies, I'll probably go for QKZ HBB or the KZ Castor bass for it's boomy bass
Brother i am new to this kind of audiophile, music listening thing, i like listening to Hip-Hop Music, is The zero 2 better than Tangzu Wan'er when it comes to these kind of music? is it worth it to jump from Redmi Buds 3 Lite to Tangzu Wan'er or 7hz? Thank you very much!
@@PrimeAudioReviews I end up buying the ew 200, do you have other recommendations for gaming/ music for hip hop/EDM under $100. I’m thinking 7hz sonus. Again thank you for your reviews.
6:55 that's straight up a dead giveaway that you're just being wishy-washy with your words💀💀 Having more bass and less treble reduces soundstage, on practically any iem, so new one should be the one with smaller soundstage
@@PrimeAudioReviews but you can tho? I'm confused on so many levels from what you said... More forward midrange? It's midrange shouldn't be particularly more forward tho? When you said that in the video I just chalked it up to a placebo from reduced treble. Cause the mids on both should be somewhat similarly forward if you aren't listening at entirely different volume levels... What does midrange in particular do about the sense of soundstage? From what I know the entire tilt of the frequency response is what matters most for it, midrange in particular doesn't do much on it's own. It's just one of the things I've seen consistently across practically any iem review, darker tilted tuning naturally reduces the perception of soundstage (more intimate sounding apparently). Can you give some clarification on what you said?
What do you mean by “what isn’t these days” like is there a problem with his massively successful and well respected/received colabs because there some of the best colabs on the market.
Many of them consider it a taboo it's often looked down upon. Musicality is now something widely regarded as being coloured or impure. I don't get it either because you can have truly resolving and detailed IEMs that still have a good bass response.
Bass can easily reduce the quality and presence of the other frequencies more importantly the mids followed by the highs which is where most of the music is taking place... If you can hear the bass well that's enough bass no need to feel it or whatnot imo. The original zero had enough of it letting those mids come through very nicely it is a shame that the zero 2 are not as such and instead tuned just like so many other budget iem's. now Zero lost the one characteristic that made them quite unique in the price bracket.
When uncle Crinacle said he listened to the feedback on the Zero 1 and added MORE BASS, he meant it. For a 25 buck IEM this amount of bass while still having a great tuning is not just fun, it's hilarious and mindblowing!
Zero for gaming, Zero2 for everything else
"but what isn't these days" ☠️
Yeah, exactly. 😄
@@PrimeAudioReviewsHope you get your own collab one day...
I whish I would have found your video sooner it is very informative and entertaining as well. I was wondering if getting the zero2 as I have the original would be worth it. Thanks to your video I know that I would probably be disappointed with the zero2 and one I should actually avoid. You addressed the questions I had about details retrieval, how spacious they sound ,imaging, air.. I doubted it being as good then the original from the graphs but due to the new driver I couldn't just assume based on the graph. Thanks again for this wonderful video and keep jazzing.
Thanks for watching!
just got these today....SOOO GOOOOOOD.
How is cables doing so far, is it delicate?
@@v1v9k they are not the best. i would suggest buying a seperate cable. the iems themselves are good.
Nice review! I got my pair in three days ago, and so far, I love em'. Compared to the OG Zero, I actually find the Zero 2s sit more comfortably in my ears. Given the similar shell design, this might come down to the way the wire sits along the top of my ears, and affects the angle of the shells. Sound-wise, I'm super impressed with these. The Zeros were close, but the shoutiness in the upper frequencies made them too fatiguing. Yes, there's a sub and mid-bass boost with this new model, but it's tastefully done, and like you mention, doesn't bleed into the mids.
Another note on the cable: this softer material is actually more comfortable, and alleviates one of the issues with the original cable. When wearing glasses, the plasticky bit on the ear hook for the original would rub against them, and the friction would create this unpleasant sound. With the new materials of the Zero 2 cable, this doesn't happen at all.
In this price-range, I also own the Chu, Chu 2, Lan (a bit pricier, but close), 7hz Zero and the Truthear Hola. The Zero 2 is now my new personal favorite in this bracket, and frankly, it puts up a respectable performance relative to the Truthear Hexa. The Hexas sound better...but the Zero 2s are slightly more comfortable. For longer sessions, it'll be the Zero 2.
Nice. Sounds like you're getting great value from these!
so you prefer these over the chu 2? How much better are they?
@@primtve_dope9568I do prefer them, yes. The fit is better, more tips included, better cable, and the tuning is more to my liking. It's not a night and day difference, but it's a step up in my view.
@@MattDAmours
Did you give the Tangzu Wan'er a try. Heard a lot of good reviews of em.
I have the original zero and the balance between the bass all the way to highs is wonderful. The treble is a little much but can easily be tamed with thicker narrow bore eartips. I would have liked to see the zero 2 to be like original zero with just 3 or so db less in the treble peek and of course this new style ect..
I have the originals too.
I use em with a balanced cable and the fiio btr5.
Still blown away by how good they sound for the price.
Compared to my shp 9500’s it might not be as good but those are openback and an over the ear pair.
Just ordered the Hifiman he200se as well, excited to see how they compare to the shp9500s and my salnotes.
I use the salnotes for jamming out while at the office and for meetings and stuff.
It’s awesome.
Nice one, Bloke 👍
Really enjoyed the review!
Much appreciated!
Those tuning changes look great. A shame though as the shell on the Zeros doesn't work with my ear :/ good review, mate!
Sorry to hear that the fit doesn't work for you! I'd rec the Simgot EW200.
The nozzles on these are a little over 6mm wide. Why? Back when I used IEMs, I had a hard time getting 5mm nozzles to fit comfortably. I thought manufacturers widened nozzles to accommodate multiple balanced armature drivers, but they eventually started making almost all of them with wide nozzles, whether they had BAs or not.
Take a look at Westone IEMs and then it gets even more confusing!
Hey man! Loved the video. Quick question for you: I used to have the SoundMAGIC E10, but it ended up breaking. My main issue with them was the high frequencies around 8 kHz-they felt too harsh, so I always had to tweak the EQ to tone them down. Now, I mostly listen to K-pop (groups like TWICE, aespa, BLACKPINK, female groups), and some pop-punk too. Do you think this one is an upgrade over the E10, or would you suggest anything else around the same price point? Appreciate any tips you can give!
This also has a peak around 8kHz but it never bothered me. I never tried the E10 so I don't know how it compared in treble quality or quantity. I think this should be fine for you, otherwise consider the Kiwi Ears Cadenza.
@@PrimeAudioReviewsThanks for the reply! I ended up ordering the Tangzu Wan’er from AliExpress for 6 USD. Hope it turns out good.
I am an Oppo Enco Buds 2 user and am planning to buy my first IEM. I mostly listen to EDM and songs by Anirudh. I'm looking for something with good clarity, vocals, and bass that is not overpowering. I was considering the Tanzu Waner SG, but I heard it lacks bass. I've also been thinking about Zero 2. Could you suggest an IEM under ₹2500 that is enjoyable and lively? Thanks!
Ziigaat Nuo!
Sitting comfy on the kiwi cadenza's still, though might cop these as I loved the first set minus the spicy treble and horrid stock cable. Good to see all the improvements :D
Fair enough!
Got them for 11 euro on recent ali sale
Will arrive soon
Hey, i have never used iem before it will be my first purchase. Soo which iem would you suggest me among the Hola, Waner, Chu 2, Zero, and the Zero 2.
I will use my iem for Music, Movie and Gaming (mostly story games)
You might wanna go with the latest one zero 2
what is the cable length?
I wanted to get OG Zero, then heard about Zero 2 so i waited..and waited then i got TRN Conch instead hahaha..perhaps you can review Conch too, pretty good sounding..
Unlikely (that I'll review it) but that doesn't matter if you like it!
@@PrimeAudioReviews how come? Trn is out of your list already?
How would you compare with the Tangu Waner? Which is one better to get between this and the waner?
zero 2 is better overall, it has more bass, but still mantains clean sound, and also vocals are more lively than wan'er, wan'er's vocals are a little more forward, but the texture is not as good, zero 2 has strong subass with punch, smoother uppermids, better vocals, more lower treble for a more lively sound, and smooth overall frequency response which makes it easy to eq too
Hello mate, thinkin about buying them zero 2, chu 2 or the holas. Can you reccomend one? Them gonna be my first
I would recommend zero 2 or ziigaat nuo/simgot ew200.
@@PrimeAudioReviewseyy you replied fast
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks mate😁
you gonna look at the Novas? awesome vid!
Yeah, I got the Nova but didn't open the box yet!
55€ Truthear Reds or crinacle zero 2 for 22€?
are these even good for fps games? i want to get a cheap 15 boya mic
Is the cable from the Zero 1 compatible with the Zero 2?
Yes.
@@PrimeAudioReviews absolute legend! Thank you so much! I'll be buying both. Hopefully you have an affiliate link in the bio!
2:15-3:10 my man used every single buzzword
7hz x crinacle zero 2 or Kz zs10 pro x? I aim fidelity and bass
Get zs10 Pro 2 better.
I think I'd like this tuning more than the original but I'm not a fan of that shell for use in bed. So far I've only been using my Kiwi Ears Credenza in bed.
With all the competition bringing better performance to a lower price, does the Credenza's performance justify its extra $5-10ish dollars over the Zero 2?
To be honest, I find the Cadenza a little boring although it's hard to fault. I think the Simgot EW200 is the one to get.
I just send back yesterday my truthear zero red because the 7hz zero1 OG, like is just ridiculous that this 7hz zero worked for me like butter and fit with my taste of everything, if i want more bass i just push the bass enhance in my litte fiio dac, i mean is insane, probably i will get this V2 just because the V1 fit amazing and made me send back 3 IEM back. is kind of end game for me... people can call me mediocre but what should i do, after hours of listening always my favorite is 7hz zero...
what cable would you recommend for Zero 2 ? looking at the Tripowin Zonie, is it better ?
It's certainly better than the stock cable.
@@PrimeAudioReviews i got the NICEHCK 16 Core C16-4 cable that was cheaper
if you love bass. youll love zero 2
zero 2 > chu2 . an upgrade to chu 2 when it comes to bass
Is the Jump in quality between these and the Truthear Crinacle Zero Red big? Because I'm debating on whether to spend more for the Zero Red.
I prefer this lol.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks for the reply! How do they compare to the TRN VX Pro?
I've been hearing alot about the simgot ew200, which do you prefer among the two?
I prefer ew200.
I buy the ew200 after your suggestion and they are the best budget iems in my collection. At he second place are for me the ccz coffee bean. Thank you for the excellent tip @@PrimeAudioReviews
What do you suggest the 7hz crinacle zero 2 or the truthear gate IEMs'?
Zero 2 is better.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thank you so much for the reply 😃
@@PrimeAudioReviews what about the Moondrop Chu II? is it better than both of them?
@@prithviraj9400zero:2 better than chu 2
i have the moondrop chu 2, planning to get this for my ipod, mainly listen to jazz and 80s pop, how would you compare them? the sound signature for both of them are pretty similar. should i get the original salnotes zero instead?
I already compared with Chu 2 here.
Im new to IEM world and im planning to buy this one.. can i use it for my ps4? Im gonna plug it directly to my ps4 controller
Yes, no problem
@@PrimeAudioReviews would it still sound good if i use it directly? I heared that to get the best sound of an IEM you have to use something they called "DAC"?
You can plug it in directly, and it will sound great. Later you can get a cheap dongle DAC if you want to try it.
Hi sir i have blon 03 and kz zst x i find zst x too fatiguing for my liking and blon 03 too bassy now for me is which one would u reco salnotes og or salnotes 2 i will also use it for recording purposes
Salnotes Zero OG.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thank u for that sir youve got a sub
Blon BL03 vs 7Hz Crinacle Zero 2? I am a bass head.
Hmm tough question because I haven't listened to my BL03 for so long. Both are awesome though so you can't lose either way.
How does this compare to the kz zs10 pro (non X)? I wanted to know whether to switch iems or just get a replacement zs10 pro since it got damaged.
You should get the ZS10 Pro 2.
Thanks for the review. Thinking of getting these, waiting for some more reviews to show up 😅
I haven't heard anyone else mention that this set has lower 4-8khz treble compared to the original.
I thought the only treble difference was that nasty 10khz peak, which has been reduced
How do these compare against the EW200 in terms of resolution? I wonder if the treble on the EW200 could be fatiguing.
I'd say the EW200 still outperforms these in every way except for bass impact. It's surprisingly strong on this one.
What are the best IEMs under $40 in each of these categories. Gaming, all round music, and movies?
Simgot EW200 is the best sub $40 right now.
gaming is probably the Kinera Celest Wyvern Pro because it comes with extra mic for gaming. all round? actually wyvern pro is also decent for music, but Chu2 and zero2 also sounds good. as for movies, I'll probably go for QKZ HBB or the KZ Castor bass for it's boomy bass
Brother i am new to this kind of audiophile, music listening thing, i like listening to Hip-Hop Music, is The zero 2 better than Tangzu Wan'er when it comes to these kind of music? is it worth it to jump from Redmi Buds 3 Lite to Tangzu Wan'er or 7hz? Thank you very much!
Yes, Zero 2 is good for hip-hop. I haven't tried buds 3 Lite but it's better than buds 4 for audio quality.
Are this better than Simgot EW200? Idk what to choose.
I prefer EW200.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I end up buying the ew 200, do you have other recommendations for gaming/ music for hip hop/EDM under $100. I’m thinking 7hz sonus. Again thank you for your reviews.
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@@PrimeAudioReviews always😎
6:55 that's straight up a dead giveaway that you're just being wishy-washy with your words💀💀 Having more bass and less treble reduces soundstage, on practically any iem, so new one should be the one with smaller soundstage
It's all relaitve. You can't just ignore the forwardness of the midrange and say that "It has more bass therefore smaller soundstage".
@@PrimeAudioReviews but you can tho? I'm confused on so many levels from what you said...
More forward midrange? It's midrange shouldn't be particularly more forward tho? When you said that in the video I just chalked it up to a placebo from reduced treble. Cause the mids on both should be somewhat similarly forward if you aren't listening at entirely different volume levels...
What does midrange in particular do about the sense of soundstage? From what I know the entire tilt of the frequency response is what matters most for it, midrange in particular doesn't do much on it's own. It's just one of the things I've seen consistently across practically any iem review, darker tilted tuning naturally reduces the perception of soundstage (more intimate sounding apparently).
Can you give some clarification on what you said?
What do you mean by “what isn’t these days” like is there a problem with his massively successful and well respected/received colabs because there some of the best colabs on the market.
He isnt making any negative remarks brother
Don’t know why audiophiles never give preference to bass 😒
Many of them consider it a taboo it's often looked down upon. Musicality is now something widely regarded as being coloured or impure. I don't get it either because you can have truly resolving and detailed IEMs that still have a good bass response.
Bass can easily reduce the quality and presence of the other frequencies more importantly the mids followed by the highs which is where most of the music is taking place... If you can hear the bass well that's enough bass no need to feel it or whatnot imo. The original zero had enough of it letting those mids come through very nicely it is a shame that the zero 2 are not as such and instead tuned just like so many other budget iem's. now Zero lost the one characteristic that made them quite unique in the price bracket.
Zero is far better than this version . Another failed collaboration, I will not named who😂😂😂