Traffic Problems In Dublin City, Ireland 1962
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- In 1961 over 11,000 motorists were prosecuted for minor traffic infringements. In addition, 64,000 motorists were cautioned on the roadside. These figures relate only to those drivers caught in the city of Dublin.
The Rules of the Road are printed by the Department of Local Government but the number of offences raises the question
As to whether most motorists understand what they can do and what they are prohibited from doing.
At the nerve centre of Dublin traffic control at the Garda depot in the Phoenix Park, reporter John Ross meets the chief driving instructor Sergeant Eamon O’Boyle. From the Garda training centre they take to the streets of Dublin to observe some of the mistakes that drivers make when they get behind the wheel of a car.
They witness drivers breaking red lights, driving through pedestrian crossings, failing to indicate correctly, driving too close to the car in front, ignoring white lines, switching lanes erratically, double parking, and opening car doors on to oncoming traffic. These are just some of the mistakes that motorists make, mistakes that could cause accidents and injury.
All of this poses a very real problem indeed.
Superintendent J A McDermott, head of traffic in Dublin, says that the problem relates to the growing number of cars on the roads of Dublin. During the last three years there has been an increase of 19,000 cars registered in the city. Superintendent McDermott believes that constructive measures are necessary to resolve the problem through providing adequate off-street parking in the form of underground or multi-storey car parks.
An RTÉ News report broadcast on 9 March 1962. The reporter is John Ross. - บันเทิง
Thanks for posting. This film brought back so many memories of my early years. I was born in 1951. The first 9 years I lived on the north side of Dublin. My family moved to the UK in 1960. They were simpler times and the way in which this typical information film of that era reflects just how much times have changed. My father worked in Mountjoy Prison we lived in a Prison Avenue, if memory serves me correctly, only one-person had car. My elder brother who returned to Dublin in the early 60’s and witnessed first-hand the massive changes that took place over the following 50 years. I am sure he did not have to pass a test to get a driving license. He used to joke, “Most of the pedestrian traffic injuries were caused by cars overtaking on the pavement”. On the occasional visits back to Dublin, I have noticed there is a large cultural difference, in the way in which the Irish and English relate to their cars. English drivers tend to pamper their cars by regularly cleaning them. They also avoid as much as possible minor bumps and scrapes in the way the park. Irish drivers, based on my last visit 15 years ago are less inclined to be careful and attentive to their cars.
Whist most of the incidents in the film were contrived a lot of the mistakes at that time were born out of naivety or ignorance. Driving a car today is much more complicated and difficult particularly in large cities. Greater numbers of vehicles cramped into infrastructure designed for the horse and carriage. The experience further degraded by a few selfish individual that have no concept of mutually beneficial cooperation strategies for driving through dense city traffic.
Unfortunately, time travel is not yet possible but old b***ards like myself can fondly look back and enjoy moments of melancholic nostalgia through the lens of TH-cam.
I read your comment with the same voice as the man in the video, it was a great report. God bless you good man!
That is my grandfather John Ross.Died in January 1987.
It was that 5th pint that impaired their driving!
60 years later it's still a mess..
60 years later and drivers still don't know how to use their indicators, and some think they're optional extras.
And a lot of them don’t know who to give way to on a roundabout.
I watched a recent documentary about a week ago regarding traffic in Bangladesh and this is very tame!
Don't worry it'll soon be like that with all the immigrants you are taking.
Sargent Amon looked very nervous to be on the telly 😂😂
In 1962 TV was in its infancy and OB units were a very new technology. Today we are used to kids in every school having almost daily access to such video systems and they are not as self concious as these people in 1962 seem to be.
The TV service of RTE only started in january 1962.
3:33 The amusement from the street crew on seeing two of what must've been painfully obviously unmarked Garda cars being driven so badly.
I'm guessing, a pint of Guinness tasted much nicer in 1962, than it does today.
As the old adage goes: 'Guinness has never been the same since they cleaned up the Liffey.'
Yes and cheaper
Those two drivers driving similar make big cars and coincidently very similar registration numbers IZC 947 and IZC 954 appear to be a menace on the roads back in 1962. Wonder if they were ever caught?
I think one of them might be my Dad
😆 No need for dashcam footage with that pair stinking the place up.
@@garryyoung8945 Forgive me for the hyperbole! I have no doubt you are proud of your Dads dedicated service in the Force. This public information footage where your Dad reconstructed poor driver behavior would have been seriously looked at by viewers in 1962 as there was more respect for the law. Driver training was virtually none existent then. People learned from this type of public information. Well done to your Dad.
Er, I suspect they were cop cars filmed in controlled circumstances.
@@officialWWM You don't say 🤔
The thumbnail photo shows it all. They drive like my dad did. Family travel was always fun.
Bring back the horse and cart sure the roads were only built for them anyways
Get ta feck Eamonn I didn't see any crossing there, driver was well within his rights!
My Dad just paid a sum of money at the post office for his driving licence c. 1958. One of his brothers, a farm contractor, taught him to drive to an accompaniment of a few curse words. His teacher was killed as he always stopped his Austin 7 before corner which he'd walk around just in case. Just once, and fatally, he encountered traffic on his short walk to check the corner. The Garda at the end was quite pragmatic. Now an array of quangos and local authorities for city push policy in different directions, meaning far too little is done.
To be fair back then there was no test, no driving lessons. In the north you just had to know a friendly police man, whom you drove around for 15 mins and he then authorised you for a license. Look how empty the roads were. Dublin today is bloody nightmare to drive in.
Dublin in the 1960's had its own problems with people stopping in the middle of the road in cars for long periods of time blocking other cars and double parking causing roads to be reduced to single lane traffic again with long delays.
As a child I remember a trip from Galway to Dublin taking 5 hours often at 40 mph and going through 20 towns and villages on the way. The section from Kinnegad to Dublin alone could take 2 hours. and towns such as Athlone, Ballinasloe and Loughrea each took 1/2 hour to get through.
Even on the main roads the presence of cattle and sheep being driven on foot was a common occurance. Different times.
And by 2016 there were over half a million private cars registered in Dublin!
I'm mere lad of 40, and I still remember the old drink driving culture going strong in the 80's and 90's. People routinely drove to local pubs, or in my Dad's case, 10 miles away, and drank afew pints before driving home. Seat belts were a personal choice, more of a fashion accessory.
Funny, there didn't seem to be anything like the carnage on the road there is now, despite all the sober drivers and heavily enforced regulations.
Probably more to do with the huge numbers of cars now vs 40 years ago though, and the speeds.
'Where there's life, there's hope'
The truck at 2:30 reminds of the FAW trucks I saw in China 15 years ago
Christ no different to the driving today just better cars 😂
Very interesting (!).
until recently, you could drive in Ireland legally without a test/full licence; folks born of Irish parents w/o a full licence could drive in the uk on an irish provisional....or at least the irish travellers did
''Prior to serious reforms in 2007, many people who drove never completed the process of receiving a full licence - 400,000 people held provisional licences in October 2007 when the new Learner Permit system was introduced. Serious crackdowns and a huge increase in testing facilities have brought this number down heavily.''
The reason for the high number of people driving under a Provisional Licence under the old system was because a Provisional Licence holder could drive unaccompanied after obtaining their second Provisional Licence, and many drivers chose this route rather than going through the full testing process. This system was very unusual - most countries' provisional/learner licences require a fully qualified driver to accompany a learner.
With motorbikes there was no reduction in insurance cost between a provisional and a full license. Obviously the requirement for a fully licenced passenger is moot.
Even when I was a lad the saying was that if you could drive through Dublin then you could drive anywhere, I worked with people who would not drive through Dublin City centre they actually paid someone to drive their car for them that’s how bad it was
@@johnmehaffey9953 Which part of Cork are you from?
That's not quite accurate. Under the old system holders of first, third and subsequent provisional licences had to be accompanied. There was a weird anomoly for second provisional licences where on the second licence only solo driving was allowed. I think it came from long ago when licencing was highly influenced by the need for rural populations to be able to get around. The need for drivers to be accompanied on third and subsequent licences was largely ignored beccause it wasn't enforced very much and penalties were small. That's why many people didn't bother doing the test after the second provisional licence.
@@mikekelly5869 I copied my info from wikipedia..
as well as me dad telling me his reasoning for no full licence
Some nice cars there.
First clip looks like where nephin rd meets Navan rd 🤷♂️
We see to be ok with the lack of any lights and bald tyres on the truck at 3:09
I remember it very well, sometimes me and the local kids would have to wait for 5 to 10 seconds before the road would be clear for us to skip, hippy hop, walk sideways, backways, handstands and dance our way across over to the other side of this very busy roadway and share the little bag of glass penny sweets with each other, some were only allowed a lick of a sweet. You often hear people talking about the good old days, not me and my school friends, we had to walk, now kids are delivered to and brought back to their homes from their school and parties in cars with full with deluxe interiors and top safety specifications.,the kids of today do not know how hard we kids from the 1960s had it
Physically hard but I would not swap places with the kids of today. Cyber bullying, exam pressures and exposure to drugs, gang violence and sex crime many times more dangerous than existed in the 1960's.
In the 60's and 70's you could pick up casual employment at the drop of a hat if you were any good and the formalities that exist today did not apply.
I now have neices and nephews who did not get their first paying job until their mid 20's, such is the onerous requirement for 3rd level degrees for most jobs and the requirement to be fully productive from day one.
This of course depended on your family background and the ability of your family and parents to protect you from the now-revealed predatory practices of the clergy and their supporters in keeping crimes against children and vulnerable adults a dirty little secret.
An opportunity was missed to build a fit for purpose underground rail system. Politicians have been proven to be short sighted and still are!. The underground would have been been paid for by now if it was constructed back in either the 60s, 70s or the 80s. Not fair to expect the Gardai to solve the problems of poor planning and poor political leadership.
money and low population too.. an issue; still its quite wealthy today
The country hadn't got an arse in its trousers back then. There was no way that an underground system could have been built. We were paying around 80% tax as it was. The planned metro line to Dublin Airport was a political mess in the first and second decades of the 2000's so your point about political leadership and planning is well made. The planning system remains the same and it really needs an overhaul, not just for infrastructure but to sort out housing and the destruction of towns by bad development. The sooner An Bord Pleanala bites the dust the better.
4:40 Did he get out without looking back AGAIN ?
The Guard sounds like he's straight out of D'Unbelievables.
At least most vehicles were only going at 5mph, so there must have been few fatalities ......
Because of the existence of cloth reinforced cross ply tyres, the absense of seat belts, the presence of zone toughened glass and the poor state of lighting, both on cars and roads, the fatal casualty rates were higher than today. Many safety features we take for granted in cars today were absent in the cars of the 1960's.
Head on collisions on roads were very common and the practices among drivers was chaotic. While young drivers often drove too fast the older drivers often drove way too slow and made huge positioning mistakes, putting themselves in harms way.
The driving test and systematic driver training only came into existence in 1964 and photo ID licences only in the late 1970's. It was a common practice among large families to share driving licences among close family members due to the absence of photos on licences. Also common was drink driving and the police were considered as being unfair if they caught a drunk driver. Most public sympathy at that time would be with the drunk driver!
This attitude has changed radically among the native Irish and is in stark contrast to the attitudes at that time in the UK and US.
Thats John Ross,a regular on Telefis eireann in the sixties
Poor guy had the worst teeth I have ever seen. He must never have been to a dentist
Ah, those were the Days!
60 since the making and They still haven’t learned to turn right at traffic light when the lights are green, still can’t position when turning right at a T junction. Still blocking roundabouts. Everyone should sit a driving education every 5 years
They did learn all that stuff but it's been 60 years and they all got a bit forgetful in old age. Just give them a bit of space and they'll be grand.
These comments are fantastic!
They forgot to mention to give plenty of room to buses just in case they blow up.
Soon it will be too expensive to drive.
Things haven't changed much apart from the cars are much faster now 🤣🤣
Is Ireland worth visiting? If so, when is the best season to visit? What's worth seeing?
Ireland is worth visiting especially the countryside and the whole of the west coast.
Summer is best say temp of 68f/20c and the least rain. Impt on west coast. Only drawback at the moment is the price of hotels and car hire. Both are very high.
The best is the West specially Connemara.
Irreland best seen in Spring,when hotel are cheaper, or summer. Beauty spots to visit are Killarney and Ring of Kerry, Dingle peninsula, Connemara, Doolough valley in Co.Mayo,West Cork and Wicklow. When eating out avoid the tourist spots like Killarney, Dublin and Cork cities, Clifden, Dingle
Donegal is the best in South Derry in the North
I know it's not meant to be funny,but imagine Harry Enfield doing a voice over with this 😆😆😆😆
Brilliant 😂😂😂
Irish people, stay off the road. Know your place!
Lmao
I bet you didn't want to do it like that 😂
Someone tell the women and foreigners that a person already crossing the road, has right of way....especially on our zebra crossings....
Jesu, Chaos Chaos in those Veeeehicles...
fethicles!
@@andrewg.carvill4596 Templemore dialect 😄
Love the two Zodiacs
Go there today and you would find that the situation is 10 times worse.
The situation now is that there are 10 times as many cars on the roads today as there were in the 1960's. Another big problem now is drug driving. The problems of old, badly maintained wrecks has been hugely reduced by NCT and the licencing system is going some way to weeding out incompetent or dagerous drivers. The stats on fatalities and recent reduction in insurance premia for drivers with no claims would seem to suggest Ireland is not an unsafe country in which to drive.
It's the same cars all the way through. It's obviously staged for learning purposes.
Is that you Sherlock?
Apart from one Volkswagen every car in the film was British , no doubt assembled in the Republic . How things have changed . Toured the republic in 1976 as a !earner driver from the North . Boy what an eye opener , not only were the roads terrible ( they'd wreck your car in no time ) but the driving standards were non existent ( no tests I assume ) and here was me trying to pass my gets in the North at least I survived to tell the tale .☺All changed now of course , their driving standards are as good ( or bad ) ad any modern European country .
The huge difference north and south can be guaged by the poor state of the roads now in the North compared to those in the South. This is due in no small part to EU investment in roads in the late 1990's which started a government policy more favourable to personal mobility and fast travel than existed in the 1970's. Today the Republic can be regarded as a single point for jobs. Long distance commuting, to avoid high housing costs in the job-rich urban areas, is now the norm.
On the subject of road building the EU insisted on Asphalt road surfacing which is far more durable than the old roads using surface dressing. Asphalt can last 20-30 years while Surface dressing will only last 5 years.
Money was another big barrier to good roads. Local government tax bases are now much higher than in the 1960's, reflecting Irelands now much more knowledge based economy and the move from Farming and tourism into high tech and pharma which pay better.
Bad roads still exist in Ireland mostly in remote areas of the west and in areas with a difficult geography such as Donegal and parts of Cavan and Monaghan.
@@jgdooley2003 We sold our country to the EU for good roads- our grandchildren will be paying back the money- I'd rather cycle and still have an independent republic for the Irish people- now we're foreigner in our own country and people not a wet day here get free everything and drive around in designer cars!
Down with this sort of thing .
Good thing they can't see South Africa 60 years later.
So it woud appear here, traffic of automobile is a novelty, they have never been abroad, where traffic is , well…traffic, like say in Bangaladesh, Saigon, Mexico city, Nairobi …and beyond, pity the poor Irish. However, one thing I notice here and I am feeling rather homely about it… it is not here a Brit reporter in Ireland telling us all how we should feel and think, thank you for that. I know, I know already I’m sensitive about that but it just irritates the shit outta me,lol
& yet you are happy about all the immigration from all around the world that is taking place?.....you Irish really are a funny bunch.
Ah Joe, you must have had a few scoops too many when you wrote that. He's an Irish reporter.
When Ireland was in the east block.. Where there is life there is hope
*???!!* Since independence Ireland has always been militarily neutral... albeit 'favouring' the Allies in WWII. It has never been a member of the Warsaw Pact. Or NATO, for that matter.
Without any doubt, though, it has always been in the "Americ~O~Sphere"! Sometimes almost embarrassingly so, with the picture of the 'POTUS' having pride of place on the parlour wall, under the Bleeding Heart Jesus picture, and next to the photograph of the Pope! Or the Stars & Stripes invariably flying over the town hotel. You could think of Ireland as being kinda like the kid brother that the gang doesn't want to bring on the adventure, but has to in case he squeals to the UN..!
I can only assume that unless you spent your geography and history classes smoking in the toilets, you must mean Ireland looks poor and drab, oppressive and like it should be in black & white. To be fair, up until roughly the mid - 90's that wouldn't have been a hugely unfair thing to say...
@@richiehoyt8487 Drab,dreary Dublin.Looks like eastern berlin in the early 6o,s. minus the tanks.Its was all just tounge in cheek.
@@df289 If you got something good, you really enjoyed it.
They don't make them like they used to!
Imagine the thick Irish Government removing all the trams in the 60's, fools.
Modern day version, dude sat in back of a van with a camera racking up the cash as cars come round a bend 5 miles an hour over 30
Damn driving the wrong side. ?? W hel ?? Like England? I’d be ded first hour there.
All Ford Consul drivers were the same...they'd drive over you
Consul 3000GT?
Now it's Toyota drivers.
Ford Zodiac 😊
@@seankennedy5502 I can't say your wrong but my Da's friend who had one was a rabbi and he said he owned a consul. I couldn't read as I was five at the time.
I would seriously love to have been born in 1962 or 1963 rather than in 1969
1963 is so much better than 1962! Duh!
I was born in 1960 and would prefer to have been born in 1950.
I was born in 1952. Now there was a year. They don't make years like that anymore.
Why what's wrong with 69? You got to grow up in the 70s and 80s and have lived on both sides of the computer age. Besides aren't you glad you're 53 now rather than 60 😂
Brilliant 🤣🤣🤣
Vintage drunk driving
Year of my birth
✌️🛸
Safety could be improved if car tyres back then weren't the width of a potato.
Tyres in the 1960's were mostly cloth reinforced cross ply structures with a very small cross sectional area and weak sidewalls and prone to blow out catastrophically especially on sharp bends. Bald tyres were common and inspection and enforcement were minimal.
Now cars are universally fitted with steel wire reinforced radials which are much less likely to blow out and have stiffer sidwalls to take corners better without danger.
Inspections make having bald tyres harder and annual NCT inspections make owners change their tyres more often than in the 1960's.
Ye can't be doing that lads !!
Motorists are poor at the best of times. As for motorcyclists, they are on a different level.
@Retrobiker subsonic motor cyclists have no respect for anyone on the roads.
Lol the car indicating turn left and turning right. at 2:15 min . Reg number suggest why is acting like that :))
Agh they're safe at 2mph. Kph.
Your better off with Colin Robertson woes running the British government politically Thomas in England London Britain it his by right Colin Robertson. That best thing Art Bezrukavenko did for Britain.
I would arrest every single one of them
They were doing almost 5mph so was far too risky to try and pull them over.
Back when cars were often referred to as motorcars to distinguish between ass and carts🤣
Lots of fancy cars driven by people with no licence!
driven to drink
It's like a sketch show..
There's going to be an increase in road fatalities within the next few years, There will be hundreds of undocumented migrants on our roads, driving without a license, and the vast majority never driven in their respective countries. That also applies to the legals. The standard of driving in Ireland is within the top 12 in the world, so there's only one way it can go, and that's down, and that means more fatalities.
Farmer FLIIPPIN THE BIRD -- should be jailed
These are the feckin ancestors of the Divis hoods in Belfast.
these days people are killed in car crashes anyway lovely cars in those days
Rainbow crossings and bicycles going threw stop signs noting changes
you can count on both your hands the amount of cars in these snippets, little did they know the chaos we'd see on Irish roads today, they'd be blown away by the amount of deaths and how you see crashes with more vehicles in one incident than you see in these examples. we'll always have ignorant self centered idiots on the roads, at least back then the numbers where far less just because there was far less drivers. you'd think with all the regulation road users would know better these days. truth is, people are just arseholes and care only for what's going on in their immediate universe and feck everyone else. i drive daily for work and a huge amount of drivers speed, a huge amount fail to indicate, a huge amount do not understand the rules of the road, a huge amount of those who use a bicycle seem to be of the understanding that red lights are for everyone else but them! the whole system is broken as fuck and without a huge investment it's not going to be fixed any time soon, training from a very young age is key, the rules of the road where once taught in school here in Ireland, not so sure now. i can't see it being fixed anytime soon, it's something that does take a generation to fix. but watch this space ;) here comes the thousands of electric scooters and bikes, the law see's them as mechanically propelled vehicles yet nobody registers them, insures them or taxes them. i can see this changing for sure, but this still leaves us with potentially thousands of new road users with no clue of the rules, wearing dark clothes and zooming in and out of everywhere while they blast their favorite music in there beats headphones :) here's a situation i bet many many people have seen. if we did a little poll here of how many people have encountered an electric scooter/bike, on the wrong side of the road riding into traffic at night, they've no lights at all in black clothes and you barely missed them by an inch o.0 i'd say 9 out of 10 people have had this happen to them, it's a mess.
Never mind.With all the immigrants flooding in you'll soon have no rules at all. :-)
@@nicholasmorrill4711 Don't be silly. Everywhere has rules for driving. The fact that they're all different just makes things interesting.
@@mikekelly5869 I was'nt just talking about driving.I was referring to the consequences of mass immigration.........which are becoming all too apparent here in the UK but not solely so............I hear miss Ireland is now a black woman.Lol.
@@nicholasmorrill4711 Well, to be fair, Paul McGrath or Phil Lynott are national treasures and they're not on the pale end of the Dulux chart.....
@@mikekelly5869 Never heard of them.What's that got to do with your own Government replacing you with immigrants?
This is staged
Parts of it are yea. It’s an information video. The majority of drivers from this era, were handed driving licences for £1, and never sat a test.
People still don't know how to drive on roundabouts or the motorway. Idiots sit in the overtaking lane and cause a massive tailback, oblivious to their ignorance
May be Irish but he's got those awful 'British teeth'!
Irish teeth of old make Britain look like the BeeGees.
You must be an American .
@@tonemc6047 You're so right! Over here only the destitute and homeless wear such filthy, decayed teeth.
The worst set of choppers I have ever seen.
Hey! Britain gets blamed for anything that has ever happened in Ireland ...but teeth is going too far LOL
Christ Women Drivers were just as bad back then. 🙄🙄🙄🙈
I cycle I'm not paying no body 2€ a litre to sit in a traffic jam I live in Dublin, most people I know drive and they are from Dublin what wrong with people, look at the money your wasting, pollution, tyres oil ,insurance who would want to drive in dublin, so leave the cycling bikes alone they are not killing mother earth, I'll wait for all the smart answers, I know there are fools cycling around 😉
Because I wouldn’t cycle with my children…in my opinion it’s too dangerous….also the weather impacts my decision to drive
I see the bikers are still the same 🤭
Why the Irish are the punchline in jokes about stupid people
Ask Bono or geldof they might educate you then you will not look stupid.
Don't forget that the video is 60 years old. In the meantime we advanced, the US got the Donald Trump phenomenon and the UK got the Boris Johnson motley circus. What was that you said about punchlines?
Weekend warrior
This was such a poorly put together feature in all honesty