Did The Batman Have The Best Clayface?

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  • Batman has featured many versions of the villain Clayface. DC Comics boasts upwards of 8 different Clayfaces. However some fans feel that the best Clayface doesn't come from the comics. Where does he hail from? Some say the animated tv series The Batman. This Clayface was Ethan Bennett, a police officer and childhood friend of Bruce Wayne. His transformation at the hands of the Joker was one the series highlights and his arc stuck with many. We discuss Ethan and whether he is indeed the best Clayface here on Casually Comics!
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  • @CasuallyComics
    @CasuallyComics  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    Does Batman play basketball?

    • @The_Phantasm
      @The_Phantasm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Does Superman like baseball?

    • @chuchmaster23
      @chuchmaster23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Does peacemaker shit in the woods?

    • @WinterRabbit1
      @WinterRabbit1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Batman: Fuck it, we ball

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yes.

    • @tgkafg
      @tgkafg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Why wud Bruce not play basketball? Bruce Wayne ain' no humorless prick, Batman is.
      Also, B-Ball keeps u fit, honestly makes too much sense to git mad @

  • @Calumba1904
    @Calumba1904 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +700

    Honestly the line “Being Ethan Bennet is hard. Being Clayface is easy!” has stuck with me since I was kid. It’s just such a sad and understandable fall to villainy.

    • @Zionswasd
      @Zionswasd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      yeah its a perfect little encapsulation of good vs evil.

    • @DucksAndCatnip
      @DucksAndCatnip 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Zionswasd no it isnt

    • @Zionswasd
      @Zionswasd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@DucksAndCatnip yes it is

    • @TheRealClaylex
      @TheRealClaylex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Kinda reminds me of Supermans msg to Billy Batson that's its easier to do bad things over good things

  • @HellfireClub242
    @HellfireClub242 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +853

    Ethan's Clayface had a good origin story. His fall from grace is one that we sympathise with. I personally agree that his Clayface was the best one. A hero turned villain, turned hero again.

    • @sebastianemond5313
      @sebastianemond5313 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      It was interesting having Ethan go through the Killing Joke "One Bad Day" test that Joker put Commisioner Gordon through with paralyzing Barbara.

    • @JanFWeh
      @JanFWeh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Because they stole Two-Face's story (weren't allowed to use him).
      Ethan's Clayface only functions in a world without Two-Face, because they completely recycled Harvey's story and dynamic with Bruce.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      ​@@JanFWehhonestly that's a victory in of itself. This wouldn't be the first time a character is made very similarly to another (to replace them) and they don't often do well. Ethan did a good job of coming off really well despite being a stand in and in a lot of ways I prefer him to Two Face.

    • @JanFWeh
      @JanFWeh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@vullord666 They did a better job than in other attempts. But they could've also come up with something truly original instead.
      I'm curious. In what ways do you prefer him to Two-Face?

    • @rocketrobie2
      @rocketrobie2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He’s honestly one of my favourite villain to hero guys ever

  • @user-ManofStyle1
    @user-ManofStyle1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +629

    The clifhanger scene of Ethan's face melting right before his eyes, him tryng to call for help while unable to touch anything was just masterful moment of tragedy and body horror. Even BTAS wasn't as scary as this one.

    • @calumhouston3308
      @calumhouston3308 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      I think that scene hooked my brother onto this adaptation. Great scene!

    • @user-ManofStyle1
      @user-ManofStyle1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      @@calumhouston3308 It's a shame that comics/comicbook adaptations kinda lost all sense of bodyhorror and I remember really liking it, like when Spider-Man became Man-Spider in 90's cartoon, that was tense.

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Not to mention the acting as well. He really sold the sense of desperation of being in pain.

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It worked out that Joker's torture was "censored". It adds a lot of shock value when Ethan starts melting; you think this kid's show will avoid graphic content then it hits you with a man melting into putty.

    • @sebastienvondoom8615
      @sebastienvondoom8615 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@user-ManofStyle1Body horror hasn't really gone anywhere, take Immortal Hulk for instance

  • @damianwilliams6446
    @damianwilliams6446 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +352

    I love Ethan Bennett as Clayface. There's so much that just works really well in my opinion. Also, some people get mad at the idea of Bruce Wayne playing basketball? Why wouldn't he play basketball?

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      He received training in all fields of knowledge, including at basketball

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Ethan Bennett is massively underrated.

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      Bruce recieved training from all the best masters, including Micheal Jordan

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@Future_Vantas In the Matsudaverse, that's Canon as far as I'm concerned.

    • @ashleytuchin7693
      @ashleytuchin7693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Because obviously he should only play BAT and ball games. 😉

  • @PettyPrinzeJr
    @PettyPrinzeJr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    THIS is the version of Clayface I think would fit perfectly in Matt Reeves' Batman movie universe, especially with the added focus on the GCPD and the show centered on it. Perfect way to introduce Ethan.

  • @manis1551
    @manis1551 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    What I liked Ethan's Clayface is that not only he had a good origin story but he also had a satisfying ending to his story and I loved that he managed to redeem himself in the end. I do appreciate The Batman for creating interesting original characters in Ethan Bennet and Ellen Yin (its a shame that both of these characters never carried over to the comics like Harley Quinn or Renee Montoya).

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      He slipped into the villain role (with a very good story with Solomon Grundy) but he still got a cure and redemption, that was really good to see. Bruce did not give up on his friend and it payed off.

    • @JanFWeh
      @JanFWeh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because it's a Two-Face knock-off.
      They weren't allowed to use Two-Face and gave his story to Clayface.
      You can't have Ethan in a world where Harvey exists. Too similar to the original.

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@JanFWehthere are copies of characters all over comic book history. Similarity is not the reason. It’s because the Batman is too far beneath TAS' shadow for anyone to dare look at it twice.

    • @MoostachedSaiyanPrince
      @MoostachedSaiyanPrince 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@JanFWehThey have similar origins, but they diverge when it comes to virtually everything else. Ethan had shape shifting powers, Two-Face has burn scars and a complex when it comes to duality and chance. Ethan is a revenge driven monster who wants to kill the man who changed him, Two-Face is a mob boss that is constantly arguing against himself. Yeah, they come from similar backrounds, but their goals, actions, abilities, how they were turned into monsters and even how far gone they are all different. Plus there's already a lot of characters that are practically copycats in the actual DC comics too. Like the multiple Batman villains that are all pretty much knockoffs of him, Clue Master, that one Flash villain with a freeze gun whose name escapes me. Most comic book characters are similar to other characters in one way or another, but there's usually more under the hood to help these characters differentiate themselves.

    • @PeytonBergin-is8bv
      @PeytonBergin-is8bv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@MoostachedSaiyanPrinceBro doesn't know Captain Cold's name 💀

  • @backgroundcharacter0.167
    @backgroundcharacter0.167 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    I’m so happy that The Batman show is getting more recognition nowadays!! I grew up with this show and I’ve adored it ever since! Ethan was definitely one of my favorite characters on the show and Batman playing basketball makes sense with all of his various skills, I would assume that he’s take up some sports to increase his athleticism.

  • @Blackwing_Earth-2_
    @Blackwing_Earth-2_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Ethan's Clayface deserves an official DC Comics introduction

    • @megax1085
      @megax1085 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      agreed

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I kind of wish more Batman properties did something like this, like when Harvey Dent is in a show, it isn’t as tragic because you know at some point he’ll be come Two-Face, but Ethan Bennett was a new character, so his villain turn was more of a shock

    • @GamerSlyRatchet1
      @GamerSlyRatchet1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      They had Harvey Dent as a recurring character in Beware the Batman before his transformation. Though he’s a huge jerk and not sympathetic at all lol. Maybe Caped Crusader will.

    • @kermitgotthesickkicks4265
      @kermitgotthesickkicks4265 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GamerSlyRatchet1 Isn't caped Crusader a canned show?

    • @GamerSlyRatchet1
      @GamerSlyRatchet1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 No. Amazon bought the rights for it and even ordered a season 2.

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Yeah, i haven't heard about Caped Crusader in ages.

    • @kermitgotthesickkicks4265
      @kermitgotthesickkicks4265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CalvinNoire Well My comments a bit dated now because we got a trailer for it legitimately just yesterday but the advertising is so poor.

  • @Shinobin333
    @Shinobin333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    Back when the series aired I loved him, actually wished he would appear even more often and was kinda sad he took the Cure and turned back to normal. But looking back I see what you mean about him not overstaying his welcome. The reason he is so lovable is because his story has a beginning middle and end that wasn't drawn out for too long

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I liked that he was cured. He may have started as a substitute for Harvey Dent but his story did not end the same way. Batman did get to save his friend in the end.

    • @sebastianemond5313
      @sebastianemond5313 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Future_Vantas It was a shame we never saw Two Face in The Batman, or in Gotham.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@sebastianemond5313We do at least know what he would have looked like in the former series thanks to Christopher Jones.

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Eh, for Basil in the series, it wasn't so much that he thought improving his appearance would make him a better actor, it was that he was diluted and thought he WAS a good actor and that the only reason he wasn't getting roles was that he wasn't conventionally attractive, which is why he transforms into a more attractive guy later and still gets turned down and he goes off about how he can look like anyone now.

    • @comicbookreviewer4856
      @comicbookreviewer4856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      To me I kinda saw Basil as a dark counterpart to Bennett as both of theme are quick to make foolish choices or think their actions will make something good out of it but the only difference was Bennett saw the downside of his powers and his self righteous behaviour did to him well Basil saw being a Villain as a golden ticket showing Basil as a warning to what Bennett would become had he fail to see his mistakes

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@comicbookreviewer4856but we already saw that in Meltdown and the Solomon Grundy episode. Bennett was firmly Clayface. You didn’t need to see what a darker version would be, he already was that.

  • @jturner2577
    @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I'm glad The Batman is getting more recognition.

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Definitely deserves the same love as BTAS

  • @HyattHyatt3179
    @HyattHyatt3179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The "I slipped" bit hits really hard especially if you have experience with mental illnesses or addiction. Sometimes it is really just a slip up and it makes you feel so much worse when you've worked hard on something and the moment you make a mistake it's like everyone looses trust in you again. Making it harder to keep trying.
    It's also completely understandable from Bruce's perspective because even just a slip up can have huge consequences on both their life and on everyone around them. It makes Bennet seem very real.
    This show has much deeper plot lines and better writing than I expected.

  • @TimPoultney
    @TimPoultney 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Oh boy! Ethan is certainly a contender for best Clayface in my mind, so glad you finally got him on The Claylist! Shame you didn't show his Meltdown speech about how being Ethan had become so much harder than being Clayface, that's his best speech (next to his best line, "What's become of us?")
    If you want some Batman 2004 episodes worth looking into, try these:
    "Seconds" (Dave Foley as Clock King)
    "Q&A" (a weirdly dark/moody episode with Glen Shadix as Cluemaster)
    "Swamped" (Ron Perlman as Paramilitary Killer Croc, shows the detective side of this batman a bit better)
    "Strange Minds" (The Joker's head episode, plus Hugo Strange voiced by the '66 Riddler!)
    "Cash for Toys" (knock-off Toyman)
    "Riddled/Riddler's Revenge" (Manson Riddler and his origin)

    • @CasuallyComics
      @CasuallyComics  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Meltdown deserves a whole video it's such a great episode!

    • @Able406
      @Able406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hot take, but I think prefer A Matter of Family to the Emmy winning Robin’s Reckoning. A) we don’t have to waste time with a framing device and it’s more concise overall. B) the Haley and John Grayson characters are merged so that Zucco threatens Grayson directly which makes everything more personal. C) Zucco is given more depth when he insinuates he accidentally killed his father in a knife throwing routine gone wrong.
      We also get Kevin Conroy as John Grayson and Mark Hamill as Tony Zucco which is fun. The parents death scene is arguably more graphic than the BTAS version. Don’t get me wrong, I love Robin’s Reckoning, I just think this episode is really good too.

    • @TimPoultney
      @TimPoultney 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@CasuallyComics Meltdown, Strange Minds, Seconds and Riddler's Revenge (along with Rubber Face/ Clay Face) are the standouts for great/darker writing on the show -- the Justice League season really dropped the ball.
      Every Batman show has a couple of bangers -- Even Beware the Batman (the Humpty Dumpty episodes). Most superhero shows can't say that.

    • @TimPoultney
      @TimPoultney 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@CasuallyComics I also just realised there are two episodes in two different series called Meltdown and each is absolutely sublime -- it's Batman 2004 and Batman Beyond (the Mr. Freeze episode)

  • @Dunybrook
    @Dunybrook 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    May the Claylist never end. It brings you so much joy and it's contagious. I feel the Joker toxin deserves its own retrospective as it's almost a separate character with many different iterations.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As do I.

    • @ravenwilder4099
      @ravenwilder4099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Though just doing the Last Laugh event might require its own video.

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Clayface was essentially The Batman's version of Batman: TAS' Two-Face story. And it was a pretty good one too - still annoyed this show isn't talked about more.

  • @Bobbybillybillbob
    @Bobbybillybillbob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Matt Hagen BTAS and Ethan Bennett The Batman have been the two best versions we have received of Clayface. Both had very compelling stories and gruesome origins

    • @aliostrowski1935
      @aliostrowski1935 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But Ethan's story actually had an ending
      Hagen is probably still roaming around as clayface

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As a BTAS diehard, it took me a looong while to warm up to The Batman. But it was the Clayface two-parter that did the trick. A surprisingly strong arc from them, and the best episodes The Batman ever did. And coming from someone who marks "Feat of Clay" (also a two-parter) as my all-time favorite BTAS episode, you can take that to the bank!

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Clayface has incredibly good two-parters it seems.

  • @HolyHadou
    @HolyHadou 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I'd be weirded out if Bruce was that fit and didn't know at least some basics regarding Basketball. Sidenote, I love how almost everyone in The Batman Rouge's Gallery knew martial arts. Penguin and Joker threw hands like a martial arts movie. I loved that.

  • @creativerealms
    @creativerealms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I am glad the comics took that very small period of time from when Hugo Strange was revealed as a villain and Ethan was still Clayface to do an issue where Hugo Strange manipulates him, thinking Strange could help him. I loved this shows take on Clayface and Hugo Strange.

    • @GamerSlyRatchet1
      @GamerSlyRatchet1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I also really liked his other appearance where he posed as Catwoman and committed every crime he once foiled as a detective. A very clever plot.

  • @rodneylindsey849
    @rodneylindsey849 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    IMO if Ethan’s Clayface had been created for BTAS , it would be the gold standard for Clayface going forward…Happy New Year, Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s the honest truth. Everything TAS does is magic. Anything the Batman did is a travesty. At least that’s what the fandom keeps telling me….

    • @AmericanBrit9834
      @AmericanBrit9834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Then the fandom is smoking something. The Batman may not hit the highs of BTAS but it’s still solid

    • @rodneylindsey849
      @rodneylindsey849 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I totally agree!🖖🏾

  • @psiaura1
    @psiaura1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Ethan was such an important part of what made The Batman so impactful to me growing up, I'm so happy to see him getting his dues for being such a well written character

  • @khandimahn9687
    @khandimahn9687 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I feel like The Batman is often underrated, largely because it came out so soon after TAS ended. Which I can relate to, because I had watched TAS since the first episode. It took a little while to warm up to a new take and start to appreciate the differences.

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is a very mature and grown up take. Lots of TAS fans I run into are not so forgiving of this show.

    • @mitchfletcher2386
      @mitchfletcher2386 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After TAS ended? TAS concluded in 1999, it was done for at least 4 years before this one started.

  • @encyclogeekia1865
    @encyclogeekia1865 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    Ah yes! I always thought Bennett was a great Clayface and his story is actually pretty compelling.

    • @JanFWeh
      @JanFWeh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you don't know anything about Two-Face.
      It's a Two-Face knock-off because they weren't allowed to use him.

    • @encyclogeekia1865
      @encyclogeekia1865 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanFWehAh! I didn’t know that! That’s so interesting!

  • @FrankLeeYoung
    @FrankLeeYoung 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It's definitely a lot more heartfelt and tragic with Ethan's Clayface. Because we went along with him for the ride throughout the season, seeing him turn like that felt like slowly losing a friend 😢

  • @TrufanNW
    @TrufanNW 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What the hell? Is this show gaining popularity? I've seen two videos talking about it today. Which isn't a lot. But it is weird that it happened twice. This is great.

  • @cantstopcray
    @cantstopcray 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ethan as Clayface, his backstory is honestly the first thing I think when I think of Clayface

  • @lf7456
    @lf7456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I feel like the Batman’s take on Poison Ivy could be interesting to compare to her current portrayal as she was very much an eco terrorist but also firmly a villain. And Ivy has (in my opinion) really been diluted as of recent years.
    As always great video

  • @alexanderlevi3
    @alexanderlevi3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I absolutely loved this series and how sometimes things could actually get really dark like the origin of clay face in this
    I remember when i first watched that episode and heard Ethan begging for help from people in the street who just ran away from him as he said”please,help me!”every time i hear that i’m almost always on the verge of tears feeling so bad for him and wishing i could help him myself

  • @vullord666
    @vullord666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ethan most likely was a stand in for Harvey at the start, but the writing staff did a REALLY good job layering him into an interesting complex character. Not even realizing what it was, I really enjoyed it the killing joke motif as a kid and looking back I appreciated how he didn't just go back to being good. One of the best versions of the "one bad day" idea. Man, I never realized it but seasons 1&2 of the Batman went hard and just feel so much more different from the later seasons.

  • @roberth.9664
    @roberth.9664 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Ethan is easily my favorite Clayface if only for him being the only one that I could get invested in the story of and I would love to see more video about "The Batman" episodes. I would love to see about season 3 episode with Zeus, that episode is very much crazy action first, but it's still a story that always stuck with and he is a Batman villain I never thing about so that really helps it stand out.

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I want to see a video about the zombie episode. It was a great Hugo Strange outing and a very strong episode.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Future_VantasIt was really a throwback to his earliest stories in the comics. Although it's pretty clear Scarecrow was the intended villain.

  • @The_Phantasm
    @The_Phantasm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My favourite Clayface would probably have to be the Rebirth Basil Karlo Clayface. While there are a lot of things to critique about Rebirth, Clayface I think was one of the best things to come out of it. That version of Clayface felt like the most well thought out and taking inspiration from various of the previous iterations which helped shape the character.

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      His friendship with Cassandra Cain was the best part of Rebirth Detective Comics, they were a great pair.

  • @rowanwalthall9045
    @rowanwalthall9045 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    this show was so damn good!! the villains used/slash interpretations of villains was so interesting, would love to see a video on what versions of the villains in this show you would want to be adapted into the comics, ngl i would love to see this shows version of cluemaster again

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This show is so damn awesome, BTAS is still king of the mountaintop of Batman animated shows but The Batman in my opinion is possibly a very close second on said mountaintop 🤘🔥🦇🦇, also it would be awesome if you did a deep dive on The Batman Vs Dracula someday

  • @moosevelt9148
    @moosevelt9148 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I know that people really like the Mr. Freeze from BTAS, but I think The Batman's Freeze, as a purely villainous character, works well too, from what I remember. The episode of his origin was written by Greg Weissman, Young Justice creator, among other projects.

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Even though I like freeze from BTAS the most
      I really do like this version of freeze as well because he legit has no chill! Eh? Eeehhh?
      But seriously my favorite part of this freeze is that his origin story is thanks to batman
      In this series batman accidentally created Mr freeze and offered to help but freeze basically wanted his revenge and for his case specifically I think he had a right to it

  • @kbar4462
    @kbar4462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yes, please more The Batman videos. Was a huge fan of this show and its so rare to see critical lens analysis on it like these videos have been doing

  • @thomasnowatkowski9178
    @thomasnowatkowski9178 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ethan probably is my favorite version of Clayface. He was my introduction to the character as a kid and has the most emotional and compelling story of any Clayface in my opinion. Also, could you do an episode about The Riddler from this series?

  • @HudsonMedia
    @HudsonMedia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    For me he definitely is. He’s got a more interesting characterisation before his transformation, his design is terrific and he’s by far the most memorable. If he’s ever done in live action I hope they take inspiration from The Batman for Clayface.

  • @Kamikiyoo
    @Kamikiyoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I always felt that both Ethan and Yin deserved to become real characters for future shows like they did with Harley before. I really liked them both

  • @slospop1125
    @slospop1125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The Batman was the first superhero animated show I ever saw, and Ethan was my favorite character in that first season his friendship with Bruce helped humanized the billionaire. I was heartbroken as a kid when I saw him transform into Clayface and when tried to be better only to relapse that was just a gut punch for me.
    I was so happy when he was finally cured and fixed his friendship Bruce.

  • @sinmenon4347
    @sinmenon4347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    The Batman was interesting because it started off as a greedy corporation move to make more toys with all the gadget/costumes reared Batman but it slowly kept on showing a more mature and nuanced storytelling with real progression throughout the seasons. Ethan was one of my favorite characters in the show, hands down. I remember when the episode came out, it was so shocking in a very thrilling and engaging way

  • @Able406
    @Able406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I actually find The Batman season 4 to be one of the more emotional seasons. Riddlers Revenge is absolutely devastating. As is the moment where Tony Zucco reveals he accidentally killed his own father! Also that moment between Alfred and Lucius on the snowy balcony in The Joining always makes me tear up when they talk about young Bruce 😭

    • @creativerealms
      @creativerealms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Season four is my favorite season. It has some of the strongest episodes.

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Season 4 also had Artifacts (the future one with Mister Frost), Strange New World (the zombie one), and Seconds (Deja Vu), all of them very strong episodes. I'll also give a nod to The Breakout (the Black Mask one), it wasnt emotional but it was a fun action piece.

    • @Able406
      @Able406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@creativerealms same

    • @Able406
      @Able406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Future_Vantas Seconds was a great episode! Definitely a TAS-esque tragic backstory for that villain. I always felt like Francis Grey was their version of Temple Fugate.

  • @Undrave
    @Undrave 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    More The Batman would be great, maybe on its version of Batgirl and why it works for her to appear before Robin? Maybe on some of its one shot villains like D.A.V.E. or Maxie Zeus or Everywhere Man?

  • @tristingravin9596
    @tristingravin9596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This has made me revist and rewatch the Claylist. We need a return of the Claylist!

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Even though Basil and Matt are seen more often as Clayface, Ethan was the first one I was really exposed too, and stuck around in my mind decades later. He was used sparingly, but I kinda wish he stayed Clayface, and was like Static Shock's version of Rubberband-Man, who was a villain, but he reformed, and STAYED reformed.

  • @TommyLaoGanMa
    @TommyLaoGanMa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm so glad to see the Claylist back, it's the reason I randomly stumbled across this channel years ago and have been here ever since.

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This series has some brilliant designs

  • @BBmetalhead04
    @BBmetalhead04 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video actually helped resolve an issue I had with Clayface back in the day. As a kid watching this series as it came out (pre-streaming and I didn’t have a DVR) the episode where Ethan posed as Solomon Grundy always felt out of character for me and I chalked it up to bad writing. However, after watching this video did I learn about the episode “Meltdown”, which I never watched. Thank you for filling in that gap.

  • @Jebbtube
    @Jebbtube 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Since you mentioned the Justice League period of The Batman, could you perhaps cover that?
    I kinda liked how Bats was the driving force behind the League coming together, while Superman was reluctant to work with others. A bit of a departure from the usual dynamic of the Batman as the loner archetype.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Seeing Superman being the loner archetype was pretty refreshing.

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jturner2577 Yeah, Superman being the loner is refreshing. And it doesn't seem too out of character.
      It's weird that DC pushes Batman as the loner archetype - Despite having a bigger roster of: "Totally not sidekicks" than Superman.

  • @Polycomical
    @Polycomical 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Claylist" Worth a thumbs up for that alone.

  • @spencernaugle
    @spencernaugle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Give me a Timeline where Batman successfully rehabilitates all his villains who are acting out because of Trauma.

  • @robertwild9447
    @robertwild9447 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When i was a kid, i saw Part 1 of the 2 part season 1 finale on TV when it first aired, but i missed the second part. For weeks I thought Ethan Bennett died horrifically melting to death, and i was traumatized, lol. When i finally caught an episode showing that he actually became Clayface, it completely took me by surprise.

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ironically I missed part 1 when it was aired in my country, and only caught the tailend of the second part and I tuned in to see Batman fighting a clay monster and then it suddenly turned into Ethan and I was like "what the heck! What did I miss?" It was so rewarding when I finally got to see the full finale in all its glory.

  • @FrostTheHobidon
    @FrostTheHobidon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I enjoyed this character and another reason why The Batman 2004 series is one of my favorites, I wish we had more of Ethan in the DC Universe.

  • @kareemissa975
    @kareemissa975 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This show is SO underrated. I know the original animated series is a classic but it’s shadow really buried this show into a hidden gem

  • @FrenchPotato661
    @FrenchPotato661 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m happy you’re covering this show, I’ve always had a lot of love for it.

  • @damienfield8144
    @damienfield8144 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My favorite is the BTAS Clayface. They made Matt Hagen a tragic figure yet one genuinely terrifying because he was losing touch with humanity. While The Batman's Bennett as Clayface has a lot of merit, it pales next to BTAS.

    • @vision4860
      @vision4860 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Acting like two legends can't coexist.

    • @blackshard641
      @blackshard641 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FACTS

  • @dirtydabsandwich7235
    @dirtydabsandwich7235 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my all time favorite episode
    It’s so dark, having that iffy feeling of seeing Yin and Bruce noticing Ethan’s fall to madness by Joker is just so cool

  • @deathskullblood2.077
    @deathskullblood2.077 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Joker: Who you callin tall?
    Us: Ethen fuckin Bennett, gonna chop you down to size.

  • @trevorghalt1881
    @trevorghalt1881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seeing his face melt away and his beautiful eyes Shining through the clay is fantastic

  • @notayoutubechannel.
    @notayoutubechannel. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s a tragic that the Batman is forgotten because the animated series is what comes to mind when it comes to Batman shows and when you hear the name the Batman people will think you’re talking about the movie that is called the batman

  • @radiak55
    @radiak55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This version of Clayface really reminds me a lot of how Sandman had been building up to in the late 90s to almost present day as a reformed villain who was in the path of being in Silver Sable's Wildpack to then going fully as a hero by being put into the reserve list of the Avengers

  • @twistedgabriel4774
    @twistedgabriel4774 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The man who played joker played him so well I honestly thought he actually was the joker. That man should have a raise for his performance!

  • @darkguardian1314
    @darkguardian1314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Another Clayface…Good Lord…”- Batman 😂

  • @ravenwilder4099
    @ravenwilder4099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes! Return of the Claylist!
    Now, c'mon Sasha, you can't tease us with Clownface without giving that its own video.

  • @DJKlickbait
    @DJKlickbait 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More "The Batman" videos. I think I've watched "Batgirl Begins" at least 10 times over the years. I was starved for Babs content!

  • @rocketrobie2
    @rocketrobie2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how much The Batman’s been getting talked about more nowadays. That was the one I grew up on and I LOVED that show

  • @gezeo750
    @gezeo750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've never seen The Batman, and I just stumbled upon your channel. I definitely want that deep dive into this show!

  • @MoramothHauntz
    @MoramothHauntz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the most memorable moments from that series. Some good body horror in there

  • @andrewmitchell2343
    @andrewmitchell2343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ah Ethan...his transformation was nightmarish, watching him stumble around wailing for help like that poor melting bastard from Robocop. It's also interesting how Ethan is the only Clayface who ever got a happy ending.

  • @kinginthenorth1437
    @kinginthenorth1437 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Batman was underrated. A solid show that should be brought up in a positive light more often.

  • @ThePongzilla
    @ThePongzilla 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really want to rewatch this series again. Keep up the videos for The Batman.

  • @igitaq
    @igitaq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember when Basil Karlo became a true clayface. There were so many of them in that storyline, like the saran wrap clayface.

  • @lynnboartsdye1943
    @lynnboartsdye1943 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I knew I wasn’t crazy! Years ago I remember seeing some art (maybe concept art?) of Ethan with that half faced clayface look and anytime I try to find that image again it just isn’t around. Ethan is one of my favourite adaptations of clayface aside from Btas, there’s a beautiful sense of body horror from the origin episodes and I’d love to see more Batman villains either under a different context like Ethan or the og characters are played with in future adaptations. I hope we get to see Bennet and Yin again they were just great characters overall.

  • @phantomflower6749
    @phantomflower6749 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really loved this version of Clayface. I never felt so much sadness when ethan turned

  • @complex2live
    @complex2live 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am finding it so hard to believe that this buildup to Ethan becoming Clayface happened in Season 1. Bloody Brilliant

  • @TheBigE9999
    @TheBigE9999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally love most of the changes made to the villains in the show. The forest nymph was a neat look for Ivy. Freeze looked awesome. And Joker wasn't just some twink in a purple suit. Every villain actually seemed like a one v one with a 6 foot 5 jacked dude in body armor was a decent matchup

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus joker in this series actually fought a lot more instead kf just hitting batman with a bat or something and. Had a really cool way of fighting but still kept the scheming clown thing going

  • @MrBooone
    @MrBooone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember Clayface in this show made me feel super sad, so I'd say I fully agree. Had me crying in the club on a saturday morning

  • @wells5150
    @wells5150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such an underrated show. Great writing, fun vizes.

  • @TheGohanSkywalker
    @TheGohanSkywalker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am all for Sasha's continuing foray into discussing how animation handles certain characters and storylines, be it The Batman or Brave and the Bold.

  • @questworldiangreenknight7455
    @questworldiangreenknight7455 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was surprised at how well they handled this version of Clayface, the addiction allegory was a creative take too. Very in spirit to Batman The Animated Series

  • @nigel_saxon
    @nigel_saxon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ending to the "clayface of tragedy" feel like it was inspired by the ending to the movie " Darkmam".

  • @circleman628
    @circleman628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I started watching The Batman after your last video on it, very pleasantly surprised. Heard good things, but wasn't expecting a show with such a consistent forward momentum and strong focus on Bruce Wayne. I still have to watch season 5 (which I haven't heard great things about) but so far it's definitely stood out as a really strong adaptation.

    • @Able406
      @Able406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Season 5 is the worst season but you should also watch Batman vs Dracula from that series as well

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Season 3 was decent and season 4 and 5 werent that good.
      I rewatched the series last year because it has been years since I had seen it and I had never finished it
      I get why there weren't any women in this version of the justice league for legal reasons due to other projects but man did this batman justice league feel a little sexist due to the lack of women in it

  • @HexxWhat
    @HexxWhat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this particular Batman cartoon has always been my favorite version, it just holds something so special in my heart. (probably because it was the one that I watched air in real time) but even without considering that this particular Clayface has always felt like the most well crafted one.

  • @Zekrel
    @Zekrel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first Batman movie I ever got was this two-part finale to season 1. I was less than 10 when I first saw this and it both scared me and made me obsessed with Batman and Clayface. In fact, this was my introduction to both Batman and Clayface.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think he’s the more interesting because as many form clayface has sorta break the typical mold
    Even his clay was a spooky white with redemption.
    It sorta melt me, not with joker puty but also to tear because I could relate to a little bit.
    Also batman can jump, Bruce has mad hops. This clayface help make, show, mold, Bruce.
    A new mold for claylist, he’s not a monster but a human with creative ideas.

  • @MarvNARK
    @MarvNARK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of the many practical reasons why I like it when original and/or expy characters are put into an adaptation of a pre-existing thing as opposed to changing absolutely anything, especially sexual orientations nowadays, of a pre-existing character that's already in that thing and ruining them because of it.

  • @Vegadra
    @Vegadra 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ethan really proves that having a heroic Clayface is a good idea. Kind of sucks DC made the one of them a Villain again even though they could of used another one. Now hopefully we get Anne next time. :)

  • @sandyscrapwitch2064
    @sandyscrapwitch2064 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's a random fun fact! in the episode where Clayface is on trial his lawyer looks awfully like Aaron Eckhart's Harvey Dent, which i wonder if it was intentional since that episode was written by Greg Weisman who likes to sneak on cameos from the other comics lore

  • @EV_Comics
    @EV_Comics 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how they decided to do something different by making new characters in this show. It's always a gamble doing new stuff, but it paid off big in this telling of Batman. I wish more writers/directors would go this route, instead of rewriting existing characters or race swapping to where they're unrecognizable.

  • @kwk111
    @kwk111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best joke in the show is when Joker drops Ethan Bennett from a rooftop to hear the sound of him going splat, and when Ethan hits the ground as Clayface, Joker is like "Wowza! Now THAT was a splat!"

  • @zachwise476
    @zachwise476 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember the villain Lock Up from TAS? I feel like he isn't utilized enough. He could have been a detective here or something.

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What if Rojas becomes Lock Up?

  • @oosbeckanderson3199
    @oosbeckanderson3199 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yeah, clay-list! And Ethan definitively has one of the best Clayface origins, dynamics and character growth, so I can see him becoming some people's favorite (I do like 52 Karlo a lot more than I should.)
    Also, why WOULDN'T Bruce "Batman" Wayne not be good at all common sports?

  • @matthewmckinnon-gray9957
    @matthewmckinnon-gray9957 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like Ethan but Katherine Karlo from Gotham Academy is probably my favorite take on Clayface

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah she's pretty interesting.

  • @tomjames9681
    @tomjames9681 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really liked a lot of the interpretations of characters in The Batman, however, a lot of the villains suffered from lack of screen time.
    Bennet is built up really well before becoming Clayface, then post transformation, he only has another 3/4 appearances.
    Same with Harley; she doesn’t even have dialogue in most of her subsequent appearances, following her first episode. That first appearance is great, and controversially, I think Hayden Walch is possibly the second best VA for Harley, after Arleen Sorkin.
    The Batman could have definitely struck a better balance between episodic and serialised. I don’t think the Batfamily suffer from this issue, since they pretty much become recurring characters, but the villains only have single episode stories/arcs after season 2, with some exceptions being the end of season villains.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Their version of Posion Ivy and her relationship with Barbara Gordon isn't really touched on after her 2 part debut.

    • @tomjames9681
      @tomjames9681 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jturner2577 Yeah that’s another great example of something that greatly needed a follow up.
      It’s like once she becomes a villain, their history of friendship disappears.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@tomjames9681And even the Batman Strikes barely touched on it.

  • @psgamer-0199
    @psgamer-0199 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Batman's Clayface is the version of the villain I cared about the most. And It's because I cared about Ethan first.
    His story from honest man to the classic villain with a brilliant twist is one of the things that make The Batman such an excellent show.

  • @bobnakedmolerats6271
    @bobnakedmolerats6271 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're making me want to rewatch The Batman.I loved that show as a kid even though Joker gave me nightmares as a kid

  • @Future_Vantas
    @Future_Vantas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awesome vid, glad to see Ethan get some love. Never made the Killing Joke connection until now. Kinda think the censored torture Ethan goes through to be more disturbing; by grounding it it avoids looking too edgy and keeps the focus on Ethan's torment. More The Batman vids please, this series had some unexpected bangers.

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember the ending of part 1. That cliffhanger made my jaw hit the floor. Best moment from the show.

  • @tnperkins4art
    @tnperkins4art 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved Ethan in our show and had great fun doing a lot of design work for his Clayface form. 😊 A great discussion here!🤘