The Complete Guide to Setting Color Space in Photoshop and Lightroom! | Digital Color
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- Now that we understand color space better lets learn how to set it in Photoshop and Lightroom Classic. In this video Carlos takes you through how to set your color space in the different programs and shows you some other places to keep color space in mind.
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0:00 Introduction
0:34 Important Note
0:51 PS Color Settings
1:15 Recommended Settings
2:04 Working Spaces
2:52 Color Management Policies
3:50 Profile Mismatch
5:08 Where do files get a Color Space?
5:44 Set Color Space in Adobe Camera Raw
6:58 Save For Web
7:36 Color Space in Lightroom Classic
8:33 Color Space for Lightroom Export
8:46 Outro
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Great Great content really! thanks! but how to read the color space of an image I already opened in photoshop?
That is a GREAT question, and maybe we’ll make a YT Short about that! But for now if you look at the bottom of your PS workspace, there should be a little section that has doc size info. If you click the arrow to get a drop down there should be an option for document profile. This will tell you what profile you file is set to.
@@TheVisualCenter ooh! That's it! Thanks a lot!
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Hello my client uses an android her image changed colors when I send to her.
But other iPhone users get normal colours when they post on Instagram, Facebook and etc….
Why is that ????
@@kwesilargent4412 first of all how do you know what are "normal" colours? There are no "normal" colours. There are only devices which are consistent whith other devices, and devices which are not. Anyway the reasons might be several, it might be a colour space problem, but usually most cell phones has sRGB space, both iphones and android, so probably the difference in colour depends on different display technologies. This is a problem that is not really solvable, every device will show different colours because there are many different technologies and each of them shows a little bit different colours
Thank you!!! Very useful
Thank you!! This is so helpful.
Glad we could help
BRILLIANT instruction!! Thank you!!
Glad you liked it.
Thank you man! Great video :)
You bet! I’m glad you liked it.
Great!!!!
Thank you , Thank You, thank you I was sending pics to PS from LR ...editing them then saving them back to LR where they looked greenish ... this vid fixed it - subscribing now
Awesome Rob!! We’re glad it was helpful!
@@TheVisualCenter the confusing thing is that I think the change happened after an update. I had exported, edited , saved Lr/Ps/Lr thousands of times … I hadn’t changed any settings
Carlos,
Great video thanks! probably too late to get a response but here are my questions:
1) I have a wide gamut monitor that covers all of sRGB and all (basically) of AdobeRGB1998. I shott RAW exclusively and edit proimarily in Lightroom Classic but will also do some editing in Photoshop CC and when working on HDR images on Photomatic Pro. I produce output for web display (assuming sRGB would be the output space), my personal Samsung TheFrame 2021 TV Art Mode (also assuming sRGB works best for that) and metal prints (assuming that wants to be in AdobeRGB1998 colorspace...) My questions relate to the best comrspace for my monitor while editing, as well as the way to out put the files. Specifically:
1) Do my assumed colorspaces I lost above for each type of output listed above sound optimal to you?
2) What mode do I want to be editing in for each of these output colorspaces? Would I want my monitor to be in sRGB mode while editing for sRGB output? My problem is that the best 'look' I seem to achieve is when displaying sRGB output on my monitor while it is in AdobeRGB mode. The images when output in AdobeRGB mode on my wide gamut monitor and displayed in with the monitor in AdobeRGB mode in Windows 10 always look a bit flatter and unsaturated, kinda the opposite of what I would have expected?
I edit my images in Lightroom and sometimes export it to Photoshop for more edits, then finalize it by exporting in Lightroom as an sRGB file since my images are printed by Mpix (which uses sRGB) or are displayed on my Zenfolio web site. Since I'm exporting all my images in sRGB does it also make sense to set the color mode in my Dell u2413 monitor to sRGB mode for editing images in Lightroom & Photoshop? Thanks and great video.
There is so much mis-information about colour settings! Yours makes sense and is working. Thank you! I have a heap of print ready files that I created with a colour setting of sRGB, ideally the files should be in RGB 1998. Is there any point converting them since there will be less colour information in sRGB, should I leave them as is? It's not like I can add more colour in by converting right?
That’s an excellent question Naomi. And your thinking is right. If you prepared your files with a smaller space, you want to try and avoid going to a bigger one. This can sometimes cause color shifts. However, there are instances where I’ve seen no change at all. It all comes down to the colors hat exist in the photo. But my general rule of thumb would be to leave it.
I highly encourage test prints though ( some shops call them hard proofs). This will allow you to see what the colors will look like printed. I’ve run into a couple of examples where it looked fine on screen but came out with a very obvious color cast. When we switched their file to Adobe98 they could see the problem and then had to edit it.
I do want to mention that while Adobe98 is ideal for print ready, the best thing to do is contact your printer and ask what color space they prefer and match that (some printing services will ask for sRGB). That should give you the best results.
Glad that this video helped. Always try to keep the largest color space possible. You may want to convert prior to the conversion happening automatically for instance, if you’re uploading images to a website that are Adobe RGB 98 the colors may shift a bit. In this situation it may be helpful to convert to sRGB first to preview the shift.
If you’ve already converted your files to sRGB and won’t be editing them any further then just leave them as sRGB. If the colors have shifted and you’re not happy with them then I would convert them back and re-edit.
Hi Carlos, I have question I’m working on a CMYK document in photoshop I have exported the document as a JPG but the colour space is set to RGB. How do I change the colour space to CMYK and do I uncheck sRGB as I want my work to be printed. Also in colour settings in photoshop what would I set the working spaces for RGB and CMYK for print.
Hi Carlos! Great video, thanks :)
What if I have all you describe (LR+PS workflow), but the colours of my exported jpg don't match what I see in Lightroom? Does that mean that my image contains colours outside of the sRGB range?
LR and Photoshop are set as Prophoto RGB, but I convert to sRGB during export.
Thanks!
Hi Samuel! That’s an excellent question, and your initial thought might be right that you are working with colors that are what we call “Out of Gamut”. But there are a few variables we want to account for.
I’m assuming you are working with RAW files? If not let me know that could alter this response. And also, walk me through your process, what exact steps do you take to get from Lightroom edits to sRGB JPEG?
If it is “out of gamut” what you would need to consider is that the jpeg format is what they call a “lossy” file format. Meaning, the file’s data is compressed and information is thrown out to make a smaller file size. Put that in combination with sRGB, a very small color gamut, this could account for the difference in how it looks.
But like I said, let me know your process. This could alter what I am saying if there is something you are doing different.
@@TheVisualCenter hi Carlos, thanks for your answer!
I import my images into LR from the camera, do some edits, right-click -> edit in PS, do some edits, save as psd, back into LR, ctrl-shift-E to export as jpgs with sRGB.
Does that explain my workflow? Is there any specific info you are after?
And yes, I work with raw files :)
Thanks!
Yes, that’s exactly what I was looking for. So I think my initial response stands. It sounds like the colors you are working with have a hard time going from ProPhoto to sRGB. The two gamuts are drastically different in size.
Is there a specific reason you are going to sRGB? If it is for the web one thing you could try is to use Photoshop’s “Save for Web” feature. I know sometimes I get different results than from LrC export.
Another thing you might want to test is going through that whole process with a different color space and see if you have the same issues or if it turns out better. So try setting PS and LR to Adobe98 and then export to sRGB. See how that goes.
@@TheVisualCenter thanks for your insight! I only notice this issue on some images, so I suppose it's indeed a mismatch 🤔
I can try with adobeRGB, see how it goes.
Hi, what about Adobe Lightroom not classic? i can't find any settings
I generally work in Lightroom and export a lot to IOS shared albums using sRGB. I was hoping for some info such that I could edit images in Lightroom while in sRGB color space but I either missed it or it wasn’t covered. Can we work in Lightroom using a specific color space? Thanks for the content.
That’s a good question. Lightroom itself does not have a color space that you work in. It was mostly designed to work with RAW files which do not have a common color space, they’re just raw data. They only get assigned a color space when exported or opened into PS. JPEGs will be assigned a color space in camera, most models will have a choice between sRGB and Adobe98 that you can set. They would then come in to LR with that space and you have the choice to change it when you export.
So there is no “working in a specific color space” in LR. It would be to just keep doing what you are doing and export into sRGB.
I think the answer is to configure monitor to sRGB color space. Do this in conjunction with the proofing option. I have a new monitor I will be calibrating so we’ll see. I still suspect Apple is not converting properly via their win10 app but not sure.
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I’ve calibrated my monitor do I set the working space in PS to my calibrated setting or leave it in Prophoto RGB?
That’s a good question. The working space is something that would be outputted with your file and possibly read by other computers and printers that do not have your Monitor’s same characterizations. So your monitor profile is really only good for you monitor. Your working space should be set to something that would be translatable to other devices. In your instance, that would be ProPhoto RGB.
@@TheVisualCenter brilliant thank you for your fast response 😀
I use Lightroom and Photoshop. I have set the color space up in each software to match each other. My problem is that the same image printed in LR looks different than the one printed in PS. I have my print dialog box setup with the same settings in both software, but always get a different color saturation and brightness between the two software.= in my prints. Any suggestions?
There are a lot of different variables that go into printing and that can cause issues like this. So, some initial questions: what type of printer are you using? Have you installed the correct print drivers for it? In your print settings, what do you have the Color Management set to? (Color handling/printer profile).
Let’s start there and see where to go from there.
@@TheVisualCenter I have used an Epson 3880 for a number of years with all updated drivers. I have the color management set to the paper profiles (Moab Juniper) set in the print dialog box with PS manages color. I use a rendering intent of Relative Colorimetric. Media Type - Ultra Premium Photo Paper Luster. I have double checked my software color settings in PS under edit and in LR preferences, and they are the same. I use a NEC calibrated display. I normally print from PS but on occasions like to use the LR module for different templates. I am always surprised with the difference between a LR print and PS print. It is a mystery. Thanks for your reply
Hi Carlos, could you tell me why when I see raw imported files in Lightroom library mode they have a nice color than I click on develop mode and lightroom suddenly changes colors of the picture? Is that means that lightroom switches color space from cameras raw color space?
No, it’s not switching the color space and this is a very common thing. What is happening is that when your files imported the library generated a JPEG preview of your raw file so you can see it in thumbnail and other modes. JPEGs are compressed and slightly processed files so they can sometimes appear to have a bit more contrast and saturation than the actual RAW file. When you switch to develop this grabs the actual raw data and updates the preview so your adjustments are accurate.
@@TheVisualCenter Thank you !