Hunter legitimately having PTSD for over 5 minutes | The Owl House
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2022
- actually it's complex PTSD
resources:
this is where I got descriptions from: www.webmd.com/mental-health/w...
and here's the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) definition for it if you're interested: icd.who.int/browse11/l-m/en#/...
All footage is from the Owl House created by Dana Terrace. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
hi friends! thank you all for watching and for your comments. i didn't expect this video to get so much attention, but i'm glad that it did and that a lot of you enjoyed it. since this is an educational video and an open space for us all to learn, I wanted to address a couple of things based on some comments down below:
1. Complex PTSD (or c-PTSD) is a disorder similar to PTSD that arises in response to repeated exposure to traumatic events (including abuse and other living situations). C-PTSD symptoms can be present after leaving the situation OR during the ongoing abuse. It includes 6 main criteria: 3 from PTSD (avoidance, re-experiencing the trauma, and hypervigilance), and 3 specific to C-PTSD (low feelings of self-worth, problems with relationships/trust, and emotional dysfunction).
2. You may or may not have been diagnosed despite displaying all of these symptoms because C-PTSD is not a common diagnosis in the United States. While it is a recognized disorder in the International Classification of Diseases (ICD), it is a more recent disorder and is not listed in the DSM-5. Therefore, a lot of counselors in the United States may not consider it a valid diagnosis or may not even know of its existence if they're a little outdated.
3. Someone pointed this out down in the comments, but in the video I misuse the phrase "trauma bond." This was my mistake. I meant to say "shared trauma" (which, if I'll be honest, also has several other meanings) as in the bonds formed between those who experience the same trauma. "Trauma bonding" in its official capacity is an unhealthy psychological response that occurs between an abused person and an abuser and should not apply in the situation I was referencing.
4. I made this video for 2 reasons. First, as someone who struggles with C-PTSD from physical, verbal, and emotional abuse, Hunter's character is one of the first times (if not the first time) I've seen these symptoms accurately portrayed and addressed in a healthy way. I can't imagine having him as representation when I was 16 and I'm so glad kids in bad situations can relate to him now.
And second, I am studying to enter the mental health field, and thought it would be interesting to look at Hunter from that standpoint. I would NEVER condone diagnosing a real person like this, but since it's a fictional character it's alright to look at the resources and make our own judgments. That being said, I am not a professional. If you disagree with any of my attributions or analyses, or anyone else's in the comments, that's totally fine! There's no reason that we can't all respect one another's interpretations of this character without it escalating to negativity.
5. *EDIT (10/13): There have been a couple of questions about the jokes in this video. I wanted to clarify that it was not my intention to trivialize this subject or treat it with any kind of disrespect. I did somewhat intend for this video to be lighthearted, however, because in my experience as someone with C-PTSD I've found it can be less triggering and more accessible to have a bit of levity when discussing a serious topic. Of course that's not the case for everyone, so I do apologize for anything potentially inappropriate.
6. If I made any other mistakes, please please please comment and let me know! The absolute last thing I want to do is spread misinformation. Thank you again for watching and for your comments and I hope that this video helped you learn something new :)
1) Cool video (Hunter quickly became one of my favorites when he debuted .)
2) I have trauma (though not PTSD ; not diagnosed at least) and could *really* relate to Hunter (especially his panic attack that hit very close to home). One things I would like to add to this discussion I guess is that , in the Flyer Derby episode (forgot the name lol) he coped with his trauma by making it sound funny (which is aided by thinking that his treatment is normal )ie “ Hah classic “ to being left on a mountain alone. I also very much tend to do that with mine to cope (and have had other friends with trauma do the same) with humor. And sometimes when I joke about it people are like “Yo what the hell?! Are you good?” and I’m like “Yeah…?”. So, can’t tell if that’s me projecting or not but yeah , Hunter using a bit of humor to cope with trauma is something I noticed.
I learned so much! I didn’t really know the full extent of this, the whole team did a very good job with it.
I relate to.practically all of these
@@thewonderlander1372 i know people who.are like Belos i see them a lot in him. So I relate a lot to.hunter especially the panick attack.bit. that line when Hunter said its hard to trust yourself it felt like a sucker punch.
I have been diagnosed w/ ptsd w/ it recognized by my therapists that it's cptsd, and I've felt the same way with his character. He also covers trauma from a high demand region, which is a newer topic in therapy as well.
I really liked your video and too found him one of the first I could ever relate to.
I'd probably add that the C for cptsd has been known for complex, but it's clinically shifting more towards chronic as it doesn't tend to go away. Also, ptsd stems from a singular event but cptsd is when you can't leave the situation and it continues for an extended duration of time ranging from days to years. This causes things to get more entangled, making it more complex.
The Owl House has a better portrayal of mental illness developing in your than most children’s media. It’s not offensive or inaccurate, they did good.
Yeah, all the characters and their responses to different things happening makes sense and helps you realize how truly awful and traumatic things can be for the five main teens. Like, when Gus starts crying in the rain in the human realm, that’s exactly what any twelve- or thirteen-year-old would do, and as a teen myself it’s crazy to imagine that happening to me, and it helps me empathize with the characters more
Agreed
*than most adult media
*cough* 13 Reasons Why
They did well*
@@RushWheeler I did it like that on purpose-
3:22 This scene always makes me sad:( The only thing Hunter takes pride in is in his knowledge, and he was willing to doubt himself before admitting that Belos is evil
AHHH I WASNT EVEN LOOKING AT IT LIKE THAT 💔💔
Stopppp nooooooooooooo
Things like this are really hard to get through, but what matters is how you are getting the help you need and having friends beside you, I never really had that so count yourself lucky🙂😔
He also feels guilty whenever he wants to infodump about his hyperfixations such as in wild magic because he was always told the knowledge was dangerous and yet, he liked learning about it anyway even if he convinced himself he could never share it.
Now I feel bad for laughing at that part 😭
How could I have not seen that? I love overanalyzing trauma in characters!!!
One of Hunter's worst memories being him accidentally hurting Willow just broke my heart
Wait where I didn’t even see that
@@Insaneandsilly_ 1:10
@@frostyturkey3591 I still don’t see it.
@@KazPlayZz It's when he grabs his head. You can see the jail bars in the background and she's in them? In the lower left corner but it's moving up and to the right
That visual and the rest of the episode reveals that 1) no matter how tough and closed off Hunter tries to present himself to cope, seeing(and blushing at) Willow proves Hunter has a soft spot for her and 2) seeing Willow behind bars in his worst memories shows how he deeply regrets betraying and hurting her
We also need to address that hunters voice actor does an amazing job at displaying hunters severe emotions and feelings. This is important.
Literally his panic attack was so accurate I STARTED FEELING IT MYSELF. While not that’s not the beeest it does show how good a job the voice actor did. Not to mention the writers making him say things like “I need to run I need to hide I need to leave get out of here run away go” those are just SOOO accurate.
I agreeeee Zeno is the best 💖💖 He even mentioned that during eclipse lake, he noticed Hunter had a tooth gap for the first time and starting doing his voice a bit different to add that feature in since it would change how words sound (a good example is at 3:57 when he says "if that's the case" there's a lisp) He has such an attention to detail is great
There’s something else I’ve not seen anyone talk about in Hollow mind. When you see the silhouette of Belos’ hand that has been morphed by the palismen’s souls it focuses on Hunter, and Hunter flinches as if he thinks he’s going to be hit. He’s so used to it that he expects it and that makes me so mad at Philip WhatABitch aka Boolos
Belos more like Bozos
Is that a fellow Elijah watcher I see? I recognize those nicknames xD
@@midnightwolf_13 YES!
@@dragonfly._.doodles Hey, fellow Elijah watchers! :D We are all now connected lol
I think its more because he just saw a bird palisman (which by the way looked a lot like Flapjack) get crushed and so he was probably scared that's what Philip would do if he saw Flapjack, but regardless, it's awful to see just how messed up Hunter is because of Philip
3:19
OML i agree, this scene DOES hit so much harder after Hollow Mind
belos doesn't see hunter as "special" like hunter was raised to believe. belos sees hunter as the next failure in a long line of failures.
and that HURTSSS
😬😬😬😬😬😰😰😰😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
As someone who has c-ptsd from sexual, emotional, and psychological abuse from both of their parents, hunter has always been like looking in a mirror in a way.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for making this video so that people can learn more about ptsd and c-ptsd. I and many others genuinely appreciate it
I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, and I hope things are better now. stay safe wherever you may be.
Sorry to hear about that. You have my best wishes for the future and the same apllies to all who are in a similar situation as you. Hopefully, things end up well for you and for everyone else who suffers from PTSD and, hopefully, examples of good PTSD-dealing representation like The Owl House can help spread awareness over this issue. May God bless you and may God bless us all.
Stay safe 💝💛🤍💜🖤💞💙🧡💛
I hope your getting lots of love ❤️
I hope you're doing well now!
hunter as a character is sort of special to me because i’ve never seen such an accurate depiction of c-ptsd. its just nice to see, after i received a diagnosis of c-ptsd i always felt so misunderstood and out of place in the world, but hunter makes me feel a bit better about that. i am very glad for this portrayal
I feel like a different species than everyone else in the world and Hunter is my comfort character cuz I find myself to be able to relate to him
I like how cartoons like Legend of Korra, Steven Universe and now TOH are beginning to show PTSD as a genuine outcome from a trauma, rather than just brushing it aside once everything is over. It shows that healing isn't so easy as just escaping from a bad situation.
Steven Universe did that terribly, it's one of the worse representations of it. You can't compare that shit to this show.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 I don't think it was that bad. It could have been done a bit better, but i think people really exaggerate stuff when it comes to SU.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 it's not that bad. I say it hits the mark decently well. It gets the deflecting, overreacting, hypervigilant aspects in suf, and the feeling bad things happen because of them on top of steven shouldering all the burden and stuff his mom did on himself in su. Also, flashback. Some parts were done pretty badly imo like when jasper got shattered and when steven kept bailing, but everything else at least hit decently
@@ghostslayer1981
This here is totally unrelated but for a interesting portrayal of real-life PTSD, i really recommend you watch the first Rambo movie (Rambo first blood), nowdays the franchise is famous for being a gory action franchise but the first movie was way more serious than the others and the ending is sad as heck.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 ah ok. I'll take a lookie then
wow...as an autistic person these symptoms just come to me naturally and i didn't even realize it. the trauma i've had is all verbal and from neglect of others around me
“Autism is impossible to separate from trauma because no one has found an autistic person without it” I relate tho and his panic attacks remind me of my meltdowns because of how dry his throat sounds from how hard he’s breathing and my throat hurts when that happens. I fr breath so hard without processing the oxygen that my arms go numb and I almost faint after a while.
Also trauma sensors in the brain are much more sensitive in autistic brains than allistic ones.
Hurrah trauma buddy
Shitttttt
I may have trauma
I've heard that any person who had enough trauma can be misidentified as Autistic. That's fucked up
I have PTSD and hate when shows or other media mis-portrays it. Honestly, The Owl House is probably one of the best portrayals. Hunter, who was technically/legitimately abused by Bellos, shows the signs very accurately. He's a wreck when it attacks and is either scared of Bellos OR subservient. Might be why I relate so hard to this witch. Anyways. Thanks for coming to my tedtalk.
Same. I have PTSD too and mostly relate to Hunter when watching the show
@@greatsageamane1984 Wanna know a bizarre similarity? I have a pet budgie and I'm practicing the sword. It's so funny.
It's probably because of the huge amount of Veteran PTSD that ended badly, with they becoming abusers or killers. Sadly that result is a fault of society for treating they like shit.
I was practically a servant for my gran for 3 years no pay and could hardly leave the house I tried running away more than once. That scene where Gus found hunter at Hexide jit way too close to home. Even now I try to "follow orders" and stay as far from my roomie/distant relatives as i possibly can and do the best to make them comfortable. She actually hit me and everyone just laughed.
@@quasi8180 Yikes, I'm so sorry.
thank you for analyzing this, and leaving resources below! Hunter is my favorite because I myself have C-PTSD. Finally, I can see myself in another character. Nobody knows much about PTSD and its types and it sincerely frustrates me, so I'm really grateful for you bringing this video to the table!
Sorry to hear about that. You and people in a similar situation as you have my best wishes for the future. Hopefully, things end up well for you and for everyone who suffers from PTSD and, hopefully, examples of good PTSD-dealing representation like The Owl House can help spread awareness over this issue. May God bless you and may God bless us all.
Finally? Characters with PTSD are everywhere man. One of the most common mental illnesses to be found in fictional characters
@@themindeclectic9821, we don’t care,🖕
1:43 I don't know if anyone has already said this, but flapjack covers his eyes. I just think that's cute
Kind of
about the eye bags comment at 3:58
I looked back at the footage from previous episodes, and it seems that Hunter consistently has dark circles under his eyes. Aside from the fact that he has to wake up at 6:00 every day, he probably has never slept well, even before the events of Hollow Mind.
i dont think he even wakes up at 6, he considered it sleeping in
Yep, pretty sure he hasn't been sleeping wel for quite some time. Eyebags don't just go away. I can also see him pulling all-nighters. We don't know exactly what his days as Coven head and Golden Guard look like but it can't be healthy and quitr stressful for a sixteen year old teen. Belos had him wrapped around his finger to the point where Hunter would do just about anything for his Uncle, the person he considers most special. Just to prove he's 'useful'. Apparently 6AM is sleeping in so it's not hard to assume he got up at 4 or 5 AM everyday for 264 days. Geez...poor boi.
Finally someone pointed out the eye bags! Going by the amount of work he has to do I estimate that’s he gets 3-5 hours of sleep and a healthy amount of sleep a teen should get is at least 8-10 hours
At 2:40 the voice got this scarily on point. When I get into my panic attacks I have the same voice quaking. Same breathing everything. I’m happy that there is a character that can actually represent where people with Ptsd come from.
That and the voice actor is so damn good at his job! Props to Zeno Robinson for making this character
Also his interpretation of Luz’s emoji text to Amity! He assumed it meant something bad if she didn’t come back with ideal results, likely due to his experiences. 😭
I have so much love for this character. The latest episode broke my heart.
Poor guy is so used to being mistreated that he assumes all relationships are like that!😢
2:18 what really gets me about the panic attack is this moment. the moment where he's unresponsive. got that thousand yard stare, not even reacting to flapjack nudging him. but then when it hits him that he's not safe at the owl house, it kicks in and he panics and flees. jesus christ this is hard to watch.
I have a CPTSD myself & I loved how they handled panic attacks. Hunters reaction is similar to mine. Hyperventilating & that feeling of dread. Except his reaction is flight while mine is freez. Pretty much like at 1:44
Oh & at 0:47
Saying something nonchalantly while everyone else is like "dude....Wtf?"
4:05 pleassee don't misuse the term traumabond like this D:
a trauma bond is not a bond formed over sharing a trauma, it is a medical term for the emotional attachment that a victim will form with their abuser after a repeated cycle of punishment and reward
hi, thanks so much for pointing this out. i went ahead and addressed it in a pinned comment because i'd hate to spread misinformation. thanks again!
Gotta love how Hunter tells Flapjack he loves him, and everyone just goes “AWWW”
I have some trauma but not as bad as Hunter. Just wish we had some titan blood to visit Hunter and just give him his well deserved hugs. I DIDN'T ORDER TRAUMA AND TEARS WITH MY COMFORT CHARACTER! Sorry, I'm just emotional... Great video.
Also, for those who don't know, I saw this tiktok recently and it turns out that the blue bow on Hunter's yellow bag in Labyrinth Runners stands for someone who's been abused in some way. Now... Excuse me while I go cry.
I think the blue ribbon stands for child abuse.
Sorry to hear about you having trauma. You and everyone else who suffers from PTSD have my best wishes for the future. Hopefully, things end up well for you and for everyone else who suffers from PTSD and, hopefully, examples of good PTSD-dealing representation like The Owl House can help spread awareness over this issue. May God bless you and may God bless us all.
Hey remember you don’t need to compare your trauma to other people. What happened to you happened to you, if it was traumatic for you then it was traumatic for you. It doesn’t matter what it was, your reaction is still valid and you’re still deserving of help and support. You’re not alone and you have just as much right to healing and happiness that any other person with trauma does, however it was caused. I hope there are better times ahead for you ☺️
As someone who does deal with this, I can safely say that Hunter is definitely good representation of what it's like. I also think you did well with this video. It helps put it all together really well.
I'm not crying! You are!
In all seriousness, thank you for making this video. It gave me some good insight into how well the Owl House portrayed C-PTSD, and how I might utilize it in my own stories/with my own characters. :)
2:06 I agree that it counts as a flashback as well cause flashbacks aren’t always full blown. Emotional flashbacks are also a thing
I almost teared up when he had the panic attacks and when he was cheering up Gus 😭😭😭
Hunter is my favorite character in the show thanks to the portrayal of PTSD and his struggle to meet the demand and adoration from others, only to realize that it felt wrong in the end. Also, Zeno Robinson’s vocal performance makes him more engaging due to how anime-esque it can get.
Additionally, I’m confused to how come the Puss in Boots 2 vs Velma panic attack discourse happened without mentioning The Owl House panic attack scene. It was all over Twitter months ago yet the latter was absent. So confusing.
YESSS! Thank you! But those two are no contest because Velma is god awful
I have severe anxiety and I've been in a situation similar to Hunter's - father/familial figure abusing me, instilling insecurities just like all of Hunter's. While I have not been diagnosed with it, and therefore can't be sure, I display a lot of C-PTSD symptoms so it felt good to see a character going through the same things as me (minus the magic, of course) in a way that is accurate and does not romanticize it.
I loved how you pointed out all the symptoms he exhibits with an explanation of it. They all hit home for me, but the biggest one is Hunter's/my jumpiness. I expect to be hit whenever someone raises their hand, and just like Hunter, I don't defend myself. Honestly props to the writers of this show for showing the physical abuse Hunter went through without an actual scene of him being beaten - simply his constant flinching. And feeling as though it is normal, just because it was his "normal".
Hunter as a character has unironically helped me so much. From relatability to seeing him as a comfort character, he is my all-time favorite. I frickin love him.
My therapist and I were talking about how I hyper fixate on things/characters i relate to and understand. Prime example
I have never felt so connected to a character without knowing exactly why
i thought hunter had ptsd since he was first introduced, but i never bothered to look further into it and confirm it for myself. so thank you. also, thank you dana terrace and all the other owl house creators for all the great representation in this show.
If you look closely at his first panic attack, you can see that it’s Eda’s hand coming towards him that makes him run. He looks up at her, then at her hand, and then flinches away and runs.
I kin Hunter so much for the similar trauma I experienced and still am experiencing since I also realized I have some of those responses due to my mentally abusive father and how he treated me, my siblings, and my mother.
2:11 “Fun bonus symptoms” 💀💀💀
My friends were not nearly as excited as I was to see the representations of Hunter. I always get super attached to the characters show a lot of my own disordered thought processes. I think it’d be interesting to look at Gus and his trauma as well. I’ve seen no one talk about it but the episode where Gus’s illusions took over the school is another representation of trauma. And to see them show a breathing technique that does often help people calm down was amazing. Sadly breathing techniques don’t work for me often as I have breathing issues and tend to overthink it but it works for a lot of people. This show is honestly amazing and I will always be pissed at Disney for limiting it so much.
I love the representations of Anxiety, trauma, PTSD, and depression in TOH. It's some of the most accurate depictions of each I've ever seen in media, and it taught me a lot about how to deal with those sorts of things. Obviously there are differences in reality, but it's still really nice to see a show actually trying to depict those things accurately.
This sounds really weird, but they did a really good job depicting panic attacks.
coming from someone with ptsd, due to cocsa and mental abuse, I find a lot of myself in Hunter, these clips just solidify that yes, I do heavily relate to this character
Even though I don't have PTSD and was never abused, I have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, depression, and low self esteem. So seeing a character learn to overcome those issues even if he still struggles with them every once in a while is very heart-warming for me. I'm going to be struggling with these mental health issues all my life, but I can learn to deal with them in a healthy manner, and so can Hunter. Hunter is a beacon of hope for all of us who struggle with mental illness.
Honestly thanks for going through and explaining these different symptoms. I recently-ish moved out of my parents house and had to start seeing a psychiatrist for reasons to do with them. It's been a couple years but recently I feel like I've been demonstrating a lot of these symptoms whenever I visit them. Not sure if this means it's PTSD but at least it'll be a good convo to have with my doctor😁
When I was healing this summer, he was such a comfort character for me bc I related to him so much. He’s such a good representation of CPTSD, too, bc he’s not immediately a pitiful character. He fulfills expectations to function, but he does it so well- people don’t even realize there’s something wrong. I hope he gets the righteous healing he deserves in season 3.
"It was a good sandwich."
I love this guy.
Also physical abuse is shown by Hunters actions
First: there’s a scene in the episode “Collecting Palisman” (I think that’s how you spell it)
Where Belos strikes at Hunter and if Hunter weren’t to move his head just slightly he probably would’ve been cut.
Second: It’s the thing’s he says “The emperor is not a merciful man.” “Cause there’s nothing more worse then disappointing someone you thinks your special.” “I can’t go back empty handed!” “Well where I come from even chanced half to be earned.” Ect
Third: Tensing up “Collecting palisman” when Belos strikes Hunter you can see he also tenses up at the end and just lets it happen
Same in the episode “Sports --“ (I forgot the rest) where Darius looks like he’s gonna hit Hunter
He tenses up expecting to get hit, again in “hollow mind” where we see one of Belos’s memories he comes back from eclipse lake giving the key to Belos. Hunter tenses up when he snatches the key from him.
Fourth: there’s a hint he wears a blue ribbon meaning: Child abuse prevention.
I also told my sister about this but she thinks its too dark for a kids cartoon
@@insertunoroginalnamehere6189 as a kid it's perfect
I definitely notice he expects to be hit a lot. You just know those scars aren't just from climbing a mountain or some other test.
I experience...a lot of this? All of it actually? Never been diagnosed but I feel like I should now...
The reason you may not have been diagnosed is because C-PTSD, while a recognized disorder in the International Classification of Diseases (ICD), is a more recent disorder and is not listed in the DSM-5. Therefore, a lot of counselors in the United States may not consider it a valid diagnosis or may not even know of its existence if they're a little outdated. Don't be discouraged if you don't get the diagnosis you need - but a good mental health professional will know what you have and how to help you. Good luck!
In “Labyrinth Runners” I think the only reason Hunter wasn’t effected as much as the others around Gus was because he was used to having flashbacks of horrible memories… probably hurt a little more though since it was magic but not as much as it was hurting for example Grey (as he was literally laying on the ground in pain when he himself is literally the coven head of the illusionists)
The owl house and the show infinity train fr have better portrayal of mental illnesses than most shows
Now see Hunter cry in "Thanks to Them" in season 3 when Luz acknowledges him as her family. He struggled so much before he found those people Amity talked about.
okay so learning about the symptoms have made me question some things and i need to speak to my therapist
I’d also include that scene where he’s plotting how he’ll get the titan blood and he says “and then boom, I’m useful again!” leading to Kikimora overhearing him and shooting at the tree he was hiding behind.
I feel like it’s part of his self esteem issues. His only source of self worth at that point is his ability to serve others. He thinks that if he isn’t “useful” to Belos, then his life doesn’t have any value at all.
Like Hunter says, “There’s nothing worse than disappointing someone who thinks that you’re special.”
to see hunter comforting gus like a bigger brother would to a little brother when he couldn't sort things out himself. A lot of the ppl I know who went through trauma can comfort others well despite being hurt themselves...
I don't think i noticed it before, but Flapjack deliberately lands on Amity's shoulder when she talks about finding people who aren't demanding worth from you. Flapjack is saying she agrees with Amity (literally sides with her)
As a person with PTSD, hunter is my comfort character because I relate a lot to him. I relate too much even.
Someone may have already pointed this out, but the small blue ribbon that Hunter wears on his satchel matches the deep blue ribbon that represents child abuse. The subtle details put into this show are phenomenal
They did so good with portraying their mental illnesses in their characters, they aren't stated all the time either which is refreshing too lol
And I someone with diagnosed ptsd I agree- lmao
Some of the seanes in the new season HURT tho qwq
Thank you so much for this video, I headcanon Hunter to have PTSD, and I'm so happy to see someone cover this topic and spread awareness
Head canon?
It’s so apparent it’s basically confirmed
Not to undervalue you
This is amazing you can see the actual effort out in you deserve so many more subscribers I can’t wait to watch your channel grow
that is so sweet! thank you :)
I don’t have ptsd for all I know but he’s so relatable
I'm sorry I know this is a serious topic but the phrasing of the sentence "They may have trouble feeling happy" made me giggle (from the text around 1:46)
Yah same I have a broken sense of humor help
As someone with sexual assault "trauma" and just finished watching the owl house Hunter is like a comfort character for me because he's like me (kinda) the way he acts around people and his struggles with impressing people and everything. It makes me feel like I'm not alone sometimes
My whole life I thought my guardians were such good ones. Until I finally saw their side of them... that made me deny it. I was living a lie, and just last year I was told they don't love me. They neglected me. It was all a lie. Yes they do love me, but why was I told they don't? Why do they do this to me??? IM LIVING A LIFE FULL OF LIES AND DISAPPOINTMENT!! I relate to hunter with this.... and I think badly of myself often.
1:05 ok I get this is supposed to be a kinda serious video BUT I THOUGHT THIS SAID "ITS FREE REALASTAE" AND I WAS DYING!!
Watching Hunter made me understand myself more.
I thought my father was a good person for a very long time... he wasn't.
Even a decade later, I still wake up in a cold sweat from dreams about him...
I knew I have PTSD for a long time, but I always thought that just meant flashbacks... but now I'm starting to understand how much more it is...
I have cptsd as well and I'll tell you it doesn't get better as you age. You just have to sort of accept that it's never going to go away.
Poor Hunter, I know he feels so, so badly.
3:58
I always thought about anemia like- rapid fatigue, dizziness, pallor and I have noticeable bruises under my eyes regardless of the amount of sleep. The reasons for it are different - from, quite possibly, poor nutrition and lack of vitamins to poisoning with heavy metals. Poor boy
kinda unrelated but the way eda offers a hand to hunter at 2:26 is so sweet. she's really adopting them all, huh
“This. IS. ma ✨grave✨”
“Well mayBe I’m JusT aN IDIOT!”
They are such comical lines. I love this mentally unwell bean
As someone with C-PTSD I absolutely love how it's portrayed in the show and how it's taken seriously and not as a joke
He’s my favorite for a reason. I have PTSD and I have noticed similar symptoms with Hunter. Especially the panic attacks, flashbacks, and nightmares. As a kid I would get those A LOT and it hurts me because even in my dreams I couldn’t stop what was happening. Of course, I still experience this, but it was 10x worse. And it led me to angry outbursts. When someone was yelling or I can hear someone fighting, I tend to run outside and cover my ears.
So, it makes me feel sad whenever I see Hunter experiences the same things as me. I never had anyone like his new friend group so it’s just nice. I should’ve taken that trigger warning though because I almost cried because I tend to be in denial 🧍♀️
An extra detail I've noticed is he also flinches when Belos gently flicks his single hair strand above his forehead in Hollow Mind. Idk if I'm over-analyzing something simple or not, but I just figured I'd point it out just in case.
i dont have ptsd, but i do have severe anxiety, when he had his panic attacks i felt it so hard, i hope he gets better soon :(
My GOODNESS I love the psychology behind Hunter and just psychology in general. I hope Hunter can finally find a solid way to healing soon.
This feels kinda separate but Hunters panic attacks are really accurate, well for me anyway, the urge to just run and hide is overwhelming
This helps me understand why i love Hunter so much, my favorite characters of animated shows are typically the ones i relate to the most
Great job analyzing this!
I fought having trust issues was a normal common thing but wow.
Hunter is my son. He my baby boy. I love him.
As someone that has been a victim of sexual harrasment, being abused, emotional breakdowns, and having low esteem. I never really thought that I got PTSD. I believed that I don't have those signs. But after the suspect did to me (sexual harrasment) I lost my confidence, voice, trust, and to do the things that I've always liked. Anw thank you for making this video tho, I learned a lot from the examples (esp that TOH is my fav show) really relates to the characters who have trauma.
as someone with ptsd, thank you for this video and ty for including the scene w darius specifically. i feel like the fact that he raised a hand in a threatening way at a minor with ptsd gets overlooked a lot bc he fakes out on striking him, but it was a really shitty thing of him to do + seeing fans react to that scene positively and call darius "new dad" bc of it was really disturbing to me. its so messed up how hunter flinches and the whole way its treated like. surprise! i made you think you were in danger but youre not!
Honestly, yeah, I haven’t even properly watched the show, but when I saw a clip of that scene I was pissed and had to pause it before I even saw the actual fake-out part of the fake-out
@@echothenardier8053 honestly i really hate the whole fake-out trope in fiction (and irl?) bc its usually a "gotcha!!! you thought you were in danger but you're not!!!" but yeah originally watching that scene made me so upset, and then reading all the comments where people said shit like "oh i love darius now!" made it worse
Yeah I don’t get why Darius is the fandom’s idea of Hunter’s dad. He’s the least worst to Hunter in the emperor’s coven, but he’s still not “dad” material. More “well someone should probably make sure this punk kid doesn’t do something so stupid he gets himself killed” material.
Hunter, however, has two moms now.
@@nervousbreakdown711 AGREE WITH THE MOMS THING 100%
i think its also maybe because they dont think about the implications of darius raising his hand at him and just take it as like "oh haha! he was being silly! darius would never hit him unlike the emperor! hes actually a nice guy!!"
regardless of whether darius would actually lay a hand on him or not, its horrible to raise a hand at someone with the intention of scaring them to think youre gonna hit them, even if its just a gotcha
I have always kin Hunter, and it wasn't until I got diagnosed with PTSD that I understood why. Hunter is definitely my favorite character.
I want to give him a hug
I personally relate to Hunter a lot. I might have ptsd but am not sure and am planning to talk to my therapist about it. I know I have some trauma, dissociate a lot, have anxiety plus some trouble with panic attacks and have psychosis so stuff is confusing.
Anyways I really liked how you put some facts and did research for this video.
So many of the scenes with Hunter hurting hurt me nearly to the point of tears every time. I really believe it’s not hard to tell that something about him wasn’t “right”, the first few times I saw him/saw his reaction to things.
Thing is; I know (at least starting a few years ago) what plenty of CLOSE people did to me was wrong, but I also don’t always feel like they did anything worth the extreme reactions I got because of me admitting them. I feel like a whiney bitch if I complain or feel something over it, so I try to just laugh at it and myself. No matter how hard I try to make the full me understand that I’m not just a whiney little bitch, it hasn’t worked. Probably because I’m still stuck in a bad environment, but it’s nowhere as bad as it used to be. It doesn’t matter how many times I’m told the things people have done to me were unforgivable, I still cannot feel it. I know they hurt me, but I also don’t. Hunter is more than likely the same in a way, definitely split in more ways than one. Manipulative people just love taking advantage of anyone they can, especially the nice or already hurt people. It’s disgusting
Notice that after he runs away from Belos, he has a little blue ribbon tied around his bag. That signifies abuse awareness, which means that Belos did in fact abuse him behind the scenes 😢
This just helps me understand a lot more about Hunter and ptsd I take appreciate this video and I want to thank you for helping me finally understand what I’m going through with my favorite show to go with it
Idk but when eve Hunter freaks out it makes me super happy. Like I can look at this character who has experienced a similar trauma (albeit in a different realm) react the same way I do to things.
In the scene when hunter says " i love you" to flapjack and the others says " awwwww" make me laugh hard
I want to give this kid a hug so bad :(
If the end of "Hollow Mind" doesn't make you feel for Hunter, I don't know if you have a heart.
I don’t normally cry when watching stuff on movie and tv but this kid sure as hell did!😢
And yes Zeno was fucking amazing as Hunter. Thanks for asking
Man, Zeno was giving his A-game in his portrayal of Hunter.
As someone who has (or, for the most part, thankfully, has had) panic attacks, myself, Hunters attacks are always so viscerally upsetting to watch. But like, in the best way. Like, obviously its not always the exact same for everyone (for example, i tend more towards dissociation that mind-racing) but it hits the nail on the head so hard, without belaboring the point or overly exaggerating it. Its just there. They just happen. And that, alongside a relatively strong portrayal of symptoms, makes them INCREDIBLE
The more of these things I watch the more I relate to Hunter and the more concerned my friends get
I'm so glad this show isn't scared to show real problems in a real way. Like, I don't think I've ever seen actual panic attacks in a kids' show! I'm so mad how it was treated by disney.
3:07 oh WOW, this is such a great detail, I've never realized that!
Oh.... So this is why hunter is my favorite character...
I think I need to get a therapist
After being diagnosed with ptsd over a year ago I’ve never actually related to any character more 😢❤
Hunter also had a blue ribbon on his bag, when hid away from belos, he also had a healing coven box that is next to his bed.
I have PTSD and to see the representation to such disorder, not only gives me a sense of closure, but I can relate, and I hope that kids that DO have PTSD can feel closure from this show.
I'm so happy that presentation is getting better and better.
I wonder if Caleb knew the pain Belos put his “children” for lack of a better word he’d feel just as guilty as Luz
Oooooof....it hurts so much more seeing it all compiled and made apparent.
Seeing hunter have a panic attack really hurt me, it was so similar to what I know
luz and hunter really did say trauma bond