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- Shutter Island is a great movie which needs your full involvement and presence of mind. Although there are many opinions on whether Teddy is Andrew Laeddis or not and looks like director also kept it open ended.
But there are lot of clues in the movie which points that Teddy is Andrew Laeddis, and if you watch the movie carefully then you will find that the great acting and expressions of actors are also compliment this thing.
Here are few major scenes in support of the fact that Teddy Daniels is Andrew Laeddis.
Idk why people think this is an open ended scene. Open to interpretation. It’s not. The last scene by itself proves he was sane again.
Some people say its just babbling from an insane patient. In the shutter island books The character stays insane rather then leaving it in a cliffhanger.
Many cases where a person was brainwashed and committed suicide because of the brainwashing. Both real-life and fiction. Nothing strange about such a thought at all. If the narrative suggested in the beginning of the movie stayed through to the end of the movie, that is EXACTLY what would make sense the most. Killing the main character wouldn't be a profound conclusion. But making the main character kill himself is a profound conclusion. What you say proves NOTHING.
yeah but they said it happened before, he has moments of sanity. I think in the end he is in a moment of sanity, but he knows he can fall on insanity again, so he chooses the lobotomy
Yep
Because people are stupid
The last scene was him basically saying he knows what happened and he knows he went insane but he doesn’t what to live with him knowing about his family.
I've understood everything but the last scene, where are they taking him? Please explain
@@vicky8958 They are taking him to labotomize him. Which will make him forget everything and live as a good man
@@ritwikbasak4960 no, coz their facility was at risk, and couldn't control him. They took him to execute.
@@shaunghishing9965 Lobotomize, not execute. He 'died' as in, he was no longer himself.
@@shaunghishing9965 I'm sorry for coming in 4 months late, but how can you possibly think he's sent for an execution? Like holy shit, literally thoughout the whole movie it's told to you that lobotomization is still in use for extremely problematic patients and at the very end, during the final confrontation Dr Cawlet TELLS HIM DIRECTLY that if this role playing experiment does not work and andrew remains insane, the wardens and supervisoes will have him lobotomization. You seriously need to watch the movie again. They do not execute patients in that facility( I can go on and on and give more examples, but hopefully that'd be enough to enlighten you).
There is also a proof that he's Andrew right on the start of the movie. In the scene Teddy is felling sick on the ship because of water. It is reminds him about finding his dead children in the lake.
Actually, is has nothing to do with it until they show us the murder
@The Great Indian Podcast There is a fire and water symbolism throughout the whole movie - whenever there is fire in a scene,he is always hallucinating or some way "escaping" the reality of what truly happen.
Meanwhile water represents the truth,and whenever he has dreams,it is always raining,or when he is on the boat,he is sick,because he doesn't want to live in the truth.-> that is the reason he has sea sickness,he developed PTSD and is afraid of the truth.
Another proof of that is when he is sitting with Mrs Bridget,we see the scene with his eyes,and there is no water in the glass when she's drinknig,but when she gets up and leaves,and from different perspective,the glass is half empty because she drank
I just presumed it was the side effect of the drugs he was given to knock him out, so that they could get him on the boat, and he placeboed himself into thinking it was sea sickness since he's on a boat
Water is the enemy to him and fire the truth
TheMonkeyBusiness no no no this isnt your english teacher drawing symbolism unintended by the author. The fire in his visions is because his wife burned down their apartment building. That was the sign that she was insane that he chose to ignore
How Dicaprio wasn't nominated for an Oscar for this movie, still puzzles me. This movie is probably one of his best performances...
Hell most of his movies were deserved an Oscar we know who the greats are fuck an Oscar
@@itucker269 still don’t know how the Wolf of Wall Street didn’t win him a Oscar
dude that lake scene. Chills
@@itucker269 frrrrr
I think The Aviator was Leo's best work, this might a be a close second, Oscars are bullshit anyway, they don't reflect the quality or talent of people/films they nominate.
The last scene means that he prefers the insanity where he is innocent than admitting he murdered his wife (edit : because she went insane and killed their children.)
marios istambul the last scene is where he knows who is finally and accepts close to death as he finally regrets what he did as he isn't hiding anymore from it he is finally who he is and when the fake cop calls him by his fake name and is ignored is because Leo isn't hiding anymore he is finally sane and accepts his crimes
he only killed is wife. but he is also guilty about is all the lives he had to take when he was a soldier
No it doesn’t lol
They made him insane by drugging him because he was digging under that clinic, how people can be so delusional?
Resa E his wife who had depression killed their children, and he believes it's his fault for not letting her see a doctor
5 scenes? The whole movie proves it dude
they say it explicitly
They didn't say "the ONLY 5 scenes that prove it". This is just 5 scenes that they chose to put in a video... Dude
Yes but these are supposed to be the 5 scenes that proof the most that Teddy Daniels is Andrew Laeddis
The bit where Ben Kingsley tells us was a giveaway 🤣
I was fooled. But I’m always fooled by twists I don’t pay attention correctly I guess.
You forgot the scene that the waterglass is invisible in Mrs. Kearns' hand. Teddy/Andrew blocked it out because of how averse he is to water.
There was no waterglass in Mrs. Kearns' hand. She didn't drank water.
@@reflectingsoul Yes she did. "Chuck" gave her a glass full of water and we saw it outside of Andrew's perspective, which means the glass with water is real and not fabricated by his mind. Then we also can see her putting the (now) empty glass down. It had no water then, so Andrew's mind didn't block it that time.
@@michelle1794 And when she leaves, we see that the glass is not empty.
@Connor Because when we see through Andrews eyes, whenever there is copious water it is always accompanied with unpleasant imagery or it isn't there at all. When he sees the water with all the rats? That's a negative association
so what does that scene in the cave with the "real" rachel mean?
There's also that scene in the beginning of the movie, where Andrew talks about the asylum with Crawley, refering to the patients as prisoners twice, where Crawley then corrected him both times with a smart smile on his face.
So what is the conclusion did you make from that scene?
Vaseleos Anthimiadis that they were not prisoners but patients of the asylum.
Ok and?
@@vaseleosanthimiadis2362 That he views himself as a prisoner.
@@tangbeinpretty sure that means nothing, it’s just he’s a hard marshal
The best movie ever, I love every single scene.
Another one, when the warden picks up Teddy after the cave scene:
Teddy: “I’m not violent.”
Warden: “Yes you are. You’re as violent as they come.”
...
Warden: “Dr. Cawley thinks you’re harmless, that you can be controlled. But I know different.”
Warden is an anagram for Andrew
@@a.jdeets5527 And the warden says he is just as violent as Andrew...
@@gerac.8889 he’s also the guy that plays Buffalo bill , which makes it even better
I just realised did the warden want him to be violent or did he always know he’ll fail
The old lady scene was the scariest part of the whole film. The absence of music adds to the errieness of the whole scene.
Had me watching cartoons after!
@@pabjimz318 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Barnie 😂😂😂😂
@@pabjimz318 hahahaha! Think happy thoughts.....happy thoughts......
To be honest, i wanted his story to be true. 🙄
Leonardo’s performance is so great that you sympathise with him the whole way. Yet he’s a murderer and has harmed patients and workers on the island for 2 years.
@@davidgeisler9885 Undountedly. And the best part was that you don't wholly believe that until last minutes of the movie.
Yes..... I thought that he was brainwashed.... I refused to believe in them. This movie is so well done 💗
I feel like that feeling also relates to the meaning of the film, not wanting to believe reality.
My favorite thing about the movie is that both stories are possible and they both make sense.
The final scene is just so amazing, that I can't resist to watch that clip for a number of times, this one of the best movies I have seen.
You forgot to mention in the interview scene how “Chuck” reacts when Teddy snaps. He looks at the nurses as though he was visually calling them to get ready.
The real monster is Andrew's wife
Fr, free andrew, he did nothing wrong
@Daniel Santos this movie was set in 1960s, how tf is he gonna manage her mental health while working a full time job? #FreeAndrew
@@MrAlexBubba still means it's his fault
@@desireandfire can’t stop crazy, can only tame it
Poor Andrew
4.That guy clearly doesn't say he beat him, he says he is there because of him which could be interpreted in many ways.
My father passed away...and he had the same sickness that's why I think this is my favorite movie....I lived the movie with my dad before ربي يرحموا
You forgot the scene where teddy and Chuck/Sheehan were told to give their guns but chuck/Sheehan was struggling to get the gun out as if he never had a gun before which again proves he was doing a role play
1:13 Mark ruffalo’s acting was brilliant here
Watching this for the 2nd time makes much more sense!!!
“Arthur you asked me how I knew inception was possible, well......”
Who did this to you George Noyce?... YOU (Leonardo DiCaprio) .... I figured out the movie plot in totality... That scene confirmed beyond a doubt... Great thriller movie... Leo would have got Oscar award for his performance esp for his action when his wife submerged her kids...
I still don't quite understand why I connected with this movie so much but i really love it and leo's got such an intriguing character to play and mark ruff is solid as the partner/doc and theres a good handful of quotable lines that I still to this day drop here and there and it always grabs the person I'm speaking too.
Good flick this.
The magic of this movie. Is you can defend each point of view to the bitter end. It’s truly open to interpretation
bueno, el hecho de que esta loco no es abierto
It ain't. Get your head out the gutter buddy, you need to face reality like Andrew did in the end.
@PANSY you can defend that Lateis is Teddy
@@theriddler2567 Or maybe Scorsese did to you what the Doc did to Teddy, trying to convince you and him that he is Andrew...
@@akai9401and it’s true, I mean all the evidence against it is little more than delusions that are easily explained
I totally understand that people support the fact that this is actually a building for psychos and that DiCaprio's real name is Andrew,but what if the director actually wanted to brainwash you the way these people did to Teddy? The guards were scared first of all "knowing" that the gun is a toy. A real gun which most likely got replaced with a toy and was put on the table so that Teddy can reach it and,according to plan,make him think that it was actually fake from the beginning. Every move Teddy made was recorded and the people in the island knew how to react before Teddy made his next move. The camera in the end went to the lighthouse,meaning that the whole lobotomy story IS actually true,as a result to Teddy not being brainwashed and living up to the fact that as he couldn't live the island,he'd better die as a good man (a marine that is) than live as a toy to the Nazi's with no personality,but the one that they try to plant in his head. I don't know people,this plot that I just believe that's true seems way more appealing and interesting to me than the Andrew one,although this is really a debatable one. I love this movie,one of the best that have fucked up my mind and leave me wondering.
YES THANK YOU. the obvious answer is that Teddy is Laeddis but really the people who run the facility where up to no good and wanted him out of the picture. So they fabricated this identity and gaslighted him.
Another thing, the movies is called shutter island. There is a lighthouse on the island which is a prominent part of the movie. Lighthouses use SHUTTERS to manipulate light. A lighthouse is a gas powered light. Gas light.
This could actually be very true. Remember the Tie he had that Dolores gave him? If he was actually a patient how would he have it in his possession. He had to have brought it with him. And the whole conversation he had with George in Ward C was hella suspicious. Also the first scene on the boat was questionable because he wouldn't just wake up on a boat without remembering how he got there. Although the Andrew Laeddis story line is more likely to be there are a lot of different ways you can view the movie. Total mind Fuck.
Just watched it and i agree
@@danielalberto6260exactly he was drugged in the boat, that’s why he can’t remember how he got there
If the Nazi thing is true then that means he stayed as a monster since he’s still falling into the personality the “Nazis” gave him
I wish that Sheehan had caught on to what Andrew was saying, and stopped him. This scene could have been played out a lot differently, I would have loved to have seen an alternative scene to this ending.
This movie is golden, I watched while on quarantine
These are accurate, except the first point brought up. It proved at the end of the movie that Teddy’s gun is fake, so it wouldn’t matter regardless of they had taken it.
i had no idea anyone would ever need this vid. its so obvious if you pay enough attention to the movie. once you get to the lighthouse scene, no way you won't get an urge to start the whole movie all over bc everything now makes sense. and once you have watched the movie 3 times, atleast, you start thinking that teddy isn't even insane and the whole thing is just a setup. what a movie. imo, i decide it is a masterpiece when a movie makes the audience want to see it more than twice. what the hell. fine, im gonna watch it now @4pm lololololo
Just watched it again yesterday and it's true, you have to watch it multiple times to understand it better cause you'll miss out on some small things that are important. In the end I believe he was sane, but acted like he wasn't so he could get lobotomized, I feel like the guilt was to much that the only way he could find real peace is by getting lobotomized. An escape from all the guilt, which is why he said towards the end "what would be better, to live as a monster or to die as a hero" basically saying, he saw himself as a monster and what he was becoming from the guilt of his family, and if he died at least he be remembered as a hero who fought in the war. Even Sheehan was confused by what he said, maybe in that brief moment he knew he was sane.
I was always so upset about everyone talking about a “big surprise ending” when this movie first came out. Called he was the patient the second he screamed about there only being x amount of patients, one is missing, etc. great movie, but when given a hint that there’s a surprise ending, really easy to see.
In the last scene, he isn’t insane. He’s “in-full-sane”
this is the most fascinating movie ive ever watched
The writer himself doesnt have a clear answer, and has decided to leave us mindfucked which is why this is one of the best movies I've seen . On one hand , this video shows multiple proofs that teddy is insane , on the other hand there alot of proofs that proves teddy is sane :
1- Why would they let an insane patient roam around the island and climb rocks by himself? He spent an entire night on his own , in a cave, an insane patient? Of course if he is sane they wouldnt mind him roaming around on his own because he has no where to go. Also we saw what he did to the doctor when he showed the sedative, therefore if he really is insane, he cant be trusted on his own which makes me wonder why would they let him roam alone...
2- The pilot on the ship looks like he doesnt have a clue about what's going on and is talking to teddie like he is a real marshal
3- the gun they are showing at the end is chuck's gun
4- Who the hell was the girl in the cave and why does she know alot about what goes on in the hospital? When teddy is hallucinating, the writer made sure we knew he was, but in that cave it looked like she was real...
Teddy is sane/insane but they constantly trying to erase his memory as a U.S Marshal. Dr Cawley did mentioned to Teddy that he have undergo multiple "recovery process" to make Teddy thinks he is Andrew. He slowly losing his sanity due to the so called "recovery process". Remember,this is not the first time Teddy went through those process.
@@andys9566 or all of this could be a lie to make teddy believe he is insane in order to get rid of him because he was investigating in their shady nazi treatment of their patients ...
@@MKaur. I highly doubt that, how in the hell can they plan something like this
@@MKaur. No it’s not, Cawley literally said she wasn’t real.
The entire cave scene was in Teddy’s head. Whenever fire is present, we know that whatever is happening is part of Teddy’s perception of reality. Also Rachel Solano wasn’t a real person, she was an anagram of his wife Dolores.
You forgot to add that scene every time "when a patient from Island used to meet those detectives in a hall THE PATIENTS WERE ALWAYS LOOKED AFTER GUARDS FROM BEHIND" in many scenes
Lol The way he holds his hands while smoking the cigarette 😂 on his way to the island
Why lady in interogation write RUN on his book.
She wanted him to escape the mental asylum as this was a good chance for him
and the woman didn't want chuck too see the paper
@@glitch1080 Nice try!
@@kavallerie1436 exactly
@@kavallerie1436 the lady knew tat teddy is andrew and chuck is leeshan so only she wrote run to indicate dicaprio to escape as. All in the asylum knew except teddy/andrew tat it was an role experiment
Great video. Straight to the point and informative. Keep making these 🙌🏾
This movie.......brilliant! What a masterpiece
Got to be Leo's best performance
why do people still doubt this??
because he is not Andrew
@@leonofleon239 explain. i seriously cant believe some people are denying that teddy is andrew. it is confusing sure but eventually all of the pieces line up
Homeboy8227 because the movie is open for interpretations and there is a lot of evidence that suggest he was actually brainwashed
Gee idk homeboy. maybe cause we literally watch the process of brainwashing happen in plain sight. you should look into it.
Yes My thought is he is not andrew too
The brilliance of this movie is that you could take 5 things that prove He was a U.S Marshall that investigated an experimental facility and was trapped into confinement and lobotomy to keep from exposing it. Laced Cigarettes, Aspirins, and liquids that made him feel insane. Thus believing he was always a patient. That and the PTSD from the war, Teddy or Andrew is a confused soul. Either way the viewer has a choice. A monster or good but broken man
Can you explain to me how they let an insane from section C to ride with Dr Sheehan alone in a boat? and how they let Teddy sleep in the same room with the workers ??
Because it's a delusion. He's not gonna fuck anyone up unless they disagree with his story. Try understanding psychology before you attempt to use it as leverage.
"A paranoid man is a fellow who knows something that's going on."
@@WilliamJohnson-xf8nt what about when dr Sheehan let him Roam around the island alone and climb rocks on his own? would a doctor let an insane person do that by themselves? What about the dr he met in the cave?
@@artembless7914 the doctor he met I the cave was OBVIOUSLY a delusion
TIME wrong, when teddy was hallucinating, the writer made sure that he let us know , think when he used to see his wife, that's delusion. The doctor scene was very normal
@@artembless7914 The writer DID make sure the audience knew that by flat out telling us the truth by the end
"You can't dig out the truth and kill Laedis at the same time. You gotta make a choice, you understand that don't you?!" I mean, my guy literally foreshadows the ending.
All the arguments about the fact that he is crazy crash into 3 impenetrable arguments proving that he is not crazy:
1. According to history, this is the 50s in the USA, why for the sake of 1 psycho who killed his family to arrange such a performance with the participation of the guard, all staff, the boat and patients? Well, he would be the son of the president .... But he is an ordinary person . Wouldn’t it be easier to put it into consumption or to bring the vegetable to the state of the tablets ?! The answer is obvious.
2. How to explain that record of the patient (“run”) if she knew that this was all a representation and an experiment. Why would she intrigue and tug a psycho killer with her notes ?? The answer is obvious.
3. The last frames of the picture clearly show and give us a lighthouse, on which "supposedly nothing is happening." Why show it, all the more outlining such alarming music ?? The answer is obvious.
By the way, in addition, I add that the last phrase of di caprio: "Live a sa monster or die as a good man," can also be interpreted in two ways. On the one hand, he seems to be asking this question to himself (the psycho version), and on the other hand, you can take it in a straightforward way, like referring to a "fake partner" (meaning: "I, am, di-caprio, will die as a good man, but you’re a ruffalo, you will be forced to live as a monster "(plot version)).
As long as any research can receive funding, there is no reason not to go ahead with it.
Maybe those interrogated were really patients. Only Rachel was a nurse.
@@cruxvox like movie: stoneheart assylum
You make great points. To tell you the truth, when I first saw the movie, the last line of the film I immediately took as being a jab at Dr. Sheehan.
Agreed with all of your points but then there r some points which r still confusing fr eg why were they nt able to find the real solando when she was literally there in tht cave which was cud b seen frn afar bcz of tht fire light n the name acronyms if he wasn't laedis
“Right now Marshall, we all are”. Right there!
The pivotal scene in the entire movie is when chuck and teddy find shelter in that catacomb within the forest during the storm. Chuck tells him the truth what if government knows what teddy is up to and wants him finished. The only way chuck can save his life was agreeing to the doctors.
His meeting with Rachel is real. By that time teddy had consumed so much of those drugs through food, smoke and aspirins that everything looked merged.
Alternatively, that Chuck was just digging for the depths of Andrew's delusions and trying to show how inane these conspiracies are.
Yeah I also think that they wanted teddy to be there because he knew that they were experimenting with people, the whole nazi connection and government was a perfect excuse to investigate the island, or maybe that’s just a fantasy created by teddy to think that he was a real cop.
Can watch this movie over and over
This is an underrated movie
During the interrogation you can see Chuck (Mark Ruffalo) wave over the staff to subdue them because he’s actually a psychiatrist that works there.
This is one bloody brilliant movie i hv ever watched in my life.....God!!I was still confused n shocked after watching this movie.count just digest that Andrew was teddy himself the whole time.n i was crying when andrew said those line:'to live as a monster.'.....I even googled the summary after watching it.this movie is just WOW.love it so much.
The music production was on point
I love this movie, it's awesome!
2:03 (clip starts at 1:39): "You can't dig out the truth and kill Laeddis at the same time, you've got to make a choice here"
Implying that if he finds out the truth, he will also bring back to life Laeddis, his real self.
Everything makes sense now. But another thing you forgot to add was Andrew’s conversation with the Warden
INDLIS yep... he states that they’ve known each other for centuries
@@petuniabosetto282 The Warden isn’t real, it’s just another anagram for Andrew.
Watching the movie a second time is like watching a whole new movie because you now soo it from a different perspective
That old woman scene is the most memorable for me. Pure silence. Her eyes, face and the scar on her neck. The shake of the head smiling then as well. Scary shit. Stained in my mind forever 🤣
This Film is so Criminally underrated!
Thanks for explaining the extremely obvious points to us
Look at the glas of water (not in this clip) where he (dicaprio) interrogates the woman (patient) there is no glas
Because of how much he hates water
@@WilliamJohnson-xf8nt or he hate glass
Great movie. Amazing book too. Dennis Lehane is my favorite author. His books are all great. Highly recommend them.
Maybe the last line of the movie was said by teddy is for doctors and chuck not for him. That line is some of the great scene
OK, so the majority are saying that Teddy is in fact Andrew and that the ending scene was him basically accepting reality as he didn't respond to the doctor calling out 'Teddy', BUT there's just one thing I can't seem to understand. Why was the very last thing we see in the film the lighthouse? Doesn't that suggest that the whole lobotomy theory might be true? I mean think about it, this whole film is about detail and the little signs we need to look for. Surely that 2 second lighthouse scene at the very end meant something, or else, whats the point of adding it? Why on earth would it be the last thing we see?
They show the lighthouse because they are going to lobotomize him. In the previous scene the doctor tells him that if he dosent accept reality, they will be forced to do it as they have no hope of bringing him back. That last scene shows that going to happen as he "chooses" to be Teddy.
But a normal hospital wouldn't perform lobotomies in a lighthouse. Why would the film shoot to the lighthouse accompanied by ominous music just after establishing that he's going for the lobotomy? Plus what someone above wrote, how did the main doctor know the line 'Why are you so wet baby?' from Andrew Laeddis's real life when he's supposedly in complete denial about his real life so would never have told the doctor what she said. In other words there's a real case to be made for Teddy Daniels being real.
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First, this wasn't a normal hospital. The doctor knew the line as it was mentioned that he previously had relapses back to reality but it only lasted for awhile. He could have also knew the line as in Teddy's world, Andrew says that line in a different context from the actual story (his wife after drowning the kids) so he could have said it many times while acting as Teddy.
Really? Not a normal hospital? Not according to Teddy, you're right, but according to what you're saying is the real interpretation it is. OK it was a hospital for the criminally insane but it would still have to be run according to official protocol, which would preclude lighthouses as a suitable location for major surgery. And according to Teddy's world he only had a wife, who died in a fire in their apartment, there's no mention of kids. No, the whole point of the reenactment with Rachel Solande is to implant the idea of a wife killing her kids, which with all the drugs they feed him, creates the suggestion in Teddy's mind, by the end of the movie, that his own wife committed such an act. The idea of suggestion is perfectly encapsulated in the line 'Why are you so wet baby?', which is supposed to implant into Teddy's the end of the story between him and his wife. If anyone doubts that Teddy Daniel's is a sane person after they watch this movie they seriously need to rewatch it and account for a lot of facts as given. OK Chuck didn't know how to handle a gun but that's the whole point, he was a plant from the hospital all along. And what about the women's hastily written 'Run'? Why would she bother writing that for a person she knew was a patient and had absolutely no power over the situation? All come backs welcome, I think this is possibly one of the most puzzling and most important movies ever made
Let be honest, we all never thought that he was the insane one
i didnt want to.
Why is it Andrew's fault that George Noyce is in there? That makes no sense. Therefore its clear that back on the mainland Teddy Daniels was involved in George being sent to shutter island.
If you think Ted is Andrew, then you too fell in Cawley’ trap.
Chuck had problems taking out his gun because he was pretending to be a cop when he was actually another psychiatrist.
They wanted Ted in the island because George, when he was outside, spread to much information of the island and Cawley needed to eliminate loose ends.
Facts! Thank you!
That’s the original misleading realization, then the next thing you should have been realizing is he is actually crazy. They are role playing to try to keep him from being lobotomized but in the end he can’t live with the fact of knowing his wife did that and that he killed her. It’s too much to bear so he in his right mind at the end and chooses to kill the part of himself that knows/accepts those things.
Watch again
I only realised why the guards were all looking at him at the start with their guns ready and you can see in their eyes, that they aren't happy with this role play.
A Marshall arriving would not worry the guards at all.
This is the most basic analysis I’ve ever seen lol. Obviously the simpler more obvious answer is Teddy is Laeddis. The whole point of the movie is perspective and the unreliable narrator. Either “Teddy” is insane, or the people running Ashcliff are doing something, either way one is “lying” to the point you can’t tell. Pointing out the most obvious clues to one explanation doesn’t make it correct, if it did this wouldn’t be as good of a film lol
I have a counter argument to the first point.
They were "on edge" and raising their weapons because they were reminding his partner not to cave and tell him what their real plans were.
Not saying this point is right, just another way of looking at it.
TH-cam algorithm is weird. I am planning to watch this film tonight then I saw this
That isn't weird. The algorithm works like this deliberately
The look di caprio gives rufallo at the end is oscar worthy in itself. A 1 second look of I know what I did but I wanna be dead. And thank you for what u tried. I want you to atleast know that your program worked.
In my openion, Teddy is really a Marshall. Everything he believes about what's going on the island is true. And that is also the truth that the director wants to tell us but he prefers a conundrum not to take any responsibility because of accusing the american history
Levent Alp then how do you explain Chuck
Nice try idiot
very good scene, makes me sleepy to this day......
I've never heard about this movie being open ended. How can you possibly interpret it as anything other than Teddy being Andrew? It seems pretty clear cut.
Why didn’t George tell him all of this when they spoke or tell him who he was
aleshia mccaw he told him that all of this is because of you. He says it multiple times that you are the reason all of this is happening
@@poppygloria4835 but that can be because when he told the marshal about these experiments teddy started digging up things n wanted to b on this island thru this disappearance of solando task to know what actually happens since noice told him that n when these authorities got to know about marshals activities n interaction with noice they got him back at the cell to sorta punish him or so tht he won't b able to tell more of their secrets to the marshal n that's y he says because of ur intrigue n interest in their wrk they got me here n now im stuck here bcz of u had u not shown interest in this i wud have been out somewhere
he is also schizophrenic and also believe in Andrew's delusions
You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain
I’d love to know more about how Andrew is when he’s actually “Andrew” and not in his psychosis. I know this isn’t what the movie is about ( and I LOVE the movie) it’s so interesting that I would have loved a prequel.
The book has many more details about his previous life
Why did the doctor call him "Teddy" at the end?
Inti S think about what leddes said last, about living like a monster or finding death as a hero. I think at the end he knew about his condition and wanted to end it because of that
cus he knew teddy knows the truth and the doctor tried to test his identity now so he called teddy and teddy didnt response as he knows his name is andrew
the doctor was testing him. also, andrew made him think that he was delusional again, that's why he nodded to the other doctors.
Omg because he is Teddy, they made him think that he is Laeddis by giving him drugs all the time
@@leonofleon239 right
I cant believe how fucking mind blowing this movie was
look at 0:17, the guy's eyes move, he notices both the people. whihc means they're different
I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Thanks Tom
What's a lobotomy exactly?
@@andriapinto8655 use google
@@andriapinto8655 A lobotomy is when doctors stick an ice pick through the corner of your eye into your brain to make you docile by removing nerve fibers
Shutter Island release date : Feb 19, 2010
Inception release date : Jul 16, 2010
so.....
If he is indeed Andrew, why at the end after that statement he made did his Doctor stand up and call him teddy witch confusion?
Maybe he was confused...and Andrew didn't respond to him being called Teddy
He was playing along with the illusion
I think he was playing along in a last attempt
Zoe Skinner I was thinking that as well. However that look on his face was real reassuring
@@ezekielhoward1564 You didn't understand the last scene. There, Andrew is hinting to his doctor that he is sane how the director of the movie is hinting to us that he is sane in this moment. His doctor realises it, and checks if he's actually sane by calling him "Teddy", if he was insane at that moment, he would've responded to his partner, Chuck. In short: he was sane, choosing to die because he can't live with what he did. The doc is checking if he's actually sane. That's it
You forgot the part where all the guards were sitting around doing nothing outside of the lighthouse, while they were supposed to be searching the grounds...
Yeah that scene, all guard not search anything, just keep watching andrew.
There is no twist. I don't understand why nobody noticed the band-aid at his head? Plaster was there from the start of the movie. It is clearly from the Lobotomy... It is interesting that nobody mentions it?
It’s his Tie!
This movie fills my head with Plot Twist
1 why would they be afraid of him if they'd gave him a toy gun ?
2 why do you think the old lady scene proves he's andrew ?
4 why do you think andrew/teddy really beat noyce maybe they beat him and forced him to play the role to make teddy think he is andrew ? why would noyce tell him about the light house if the experiments at the light house were fake and not real ? that wouldnt help teddy get back to reality that would support his theory of strange things happening on the island
5 i dont get you ppl you say that teddy is living a fake life which his mind created and that all his conspiracy about the experiments inside the light house is just his imagination and not real if that was true why do you think they showed us the light house in the end that means the experiments are in fact real and that they are done inside the light house that MEANS HIS CONSPIRACY THEORY IS REAL
Biofree movies agreed
Then tell me how they created all that bullshit flashbacks he had in the end?
Heartless Girl there was some
Type of projector in the lighthouse when he went up there I believe. That must be how they get em
1 because he is violent as hell, doesn't need a gun to be hurt people
2 it's not proof, just another very logical hint he is indeed a patient: they told the old lady to be quiet, play along and not to leak their little experiment. just like you tell children to keep a secret, it's difficult for them and they also do the 'shhh' motion
regarding your theory: why is the fact they meet at the light house proof his conspiracy theory is true?
other scenes that show he is a patient: a) the doctor (or "his partner") had no clue how to use the gun and the holster when they arrived on the island, the camera really focuses on that in this scene. if he was a detective, he knew how to handle a gun - shows he is just a doctor, doing his best act for andrew. b) the scene with rachel in the cave doesn't make sense. how is she supposed to live unnoticed on the island? how does she find food? clean herself? it's a small island, they'd find her easily. c) there are even more little small scenes, but i haven't seen the film for a while. in the comments are a lot more hints.
Have you ever seen how real cops react to a potential dangerous person with no weapon? A known dangerous person without a gun is still a threat. Anyone would be on edge knowing someone who is violent and highly skilled at fighting is running around free on the island. I guarantee you wouldn't feel safe either.
At the last scene where Teddy confronts Chuck he understands what is awaiting him for not agreeing that he is Andrew. They want to lobotomise him so he does not reveal the dirty things they make at the Shutter Island. At the last scene he says, i dont know whats better to live as a monster or to die as a good man? Chuck then calls him by his name Teddy because he feels bad for plotting him to his doom.
why they are nervous about a guy with a toy gun ??
They're not nervous because of his toy gun, they're nervous because he is a violent schizophrenic
U.S.A. TIME or they’re all in on it to make him look like a psychotic patient so he gets convinced that he’s insane which I’m not saying is or isn’t true. Because people seem to think the ending is a closed interpretation
So, Literally, just number 5 as all others can be explained as "they are targeting him"
Im sorry .. i think hes perfectly normal and the facility tried to get him to look like the crazy guy... for a few reasons..but one being at the end .when he said .hed rather die as a good man than live as a monster ....which imo implies he was taking direct jab at chuck..teddy surrendered completely to the guys on the island ...their was no other way he could resist it .
Another hint: At the beginning Teddy is feeling dizzy at the boat because of the water, according to his words. But actually it is because his family was drown in the lake as we later find out. It's another consequence of his feeling of guilt.
I feel Teddy was acting...he is not Andrew...he was just acting ..so he said that we are too smart for them...
CH D yea...he was acting.. he’s actually leonardo dicaprio
@@seatankoable lol u dumb
@@seatankoable why would he act that way if he knew he would get a labotamy out of it
One thing that bugs me is how did Andrew/teddy knew about george noyce? He talked to him as if they are pals
If you believe in that the teddy is real thatbis the theory on how he knew him:
Teddy said that goerge is the one that told him about the island.
And if you believe that andrew is real that is the theory how he knew him:
Head doctor said that andrew is most dangereous patient and we see teddy mentioning that the place george is at is where they keep the most dangereous patients, so they might know each other from there.
I don't think Leo's character would go so quietly if he wasn't insane, unless he thought he'd make it back to the world some day. And if he was insane they should of thrown at least a vague clue about a memory problem, if not straight up mentioning something from right before his boat ride.
I agree but I didn't think he seemed like the type to go quietly.
With his family, all the reasons to live for had passed. He went with the lobotomy precisely because he was sane. The haunting memories from the times of war and of his family were unbearable, exact reason why he became mad and started to live as a different identity to begin with. Like the psychiatrist said, they played along with the game of detective for it would be the last hope of getting back his sanity. Which it did. The whole point was: "To live as a monster, or to die as a good man"
Definitely a movie you gotta watched multiple times to catch everything.
Common guys...dont think too much..last scene says all the story of movie..he(andrew ) want to be a good man.( to forget his bad man ) .that was the best scene of any movie i watched
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This movie is Insane...
Life is all memory