TOM WAMBSGANS'S PREVIOUS LIFE | Jane Austen Hater Actually Enjoys Pride and Prejudice (2005)

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  • I don't really mention Succession in this video but I JUST realized that Tom and Mr. Darcy are the same person. THE RANGE.
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  • @kendragarner1987
    @kendragarner1987 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    He asks how one would gain her affection, she says dancing. Next ball he asks her to dance. She later tells him he should practice his conversation skills, next day he tries to do just that and shows up to talk to her, but is so painfully awkward. Both hints, that Lizzy doesn’t pick up on, that he likes her. Poor socially awkward Mr. Darcy.

    • @HealthyObbsession
      @HealthyObbsession 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That and I honestly think he was attracted to her from the start but he started to really fall for Lizzie when she came to Pimberly because she was worried about Jane
      Darcy loves his sister fiercely so this same trait in Lizzie along with other moments but he seems like someone who would see this trait and fall for it in a partner and respect someone for it

    • @walaa8003
      @walaa8003 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She said( she is very fond of walking , he offerd to walk her to the village then came at the end walking to propose . He was awkward yes but he learnt well.

  • @Wanttowrite
    @Wanttowrite ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I'll add a couple of things to give some context. The militia that Wickham is a part of was basically the National Guard of the time. And he had to pay for his position, so he wasn't completely hard up for money. At least not in the way he told it to Lizzy. Also, when you look at Darcy's timeline, you'll realize that the almost elope of his sister to Wickham was only a few months prior to first meeting Lizzy. So a socially awkward person dealing with people he didn't know a few months after the most important person he cares for was nearly taken advantage of by someone he loathes. He was probably hanging around Bingley in hopes of taking his mind off it and possibly arranging a far better match between his best friend and sister. Lizzy was an unexpected complication that he found himself drawn to the more he got to know her, but he couldn't give the best first impression with where his mind was likely at the time.

  • @memoblom2112
    @memoblom2112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    There’s a lot of satire in Jane Austens books (and consequently movies) so I’m always surpriced when they are just categorised as ”Romance”.

    • @angyliv8040
      @angyliv8040 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Jane Austen is the mother of the modern novels. Her books have everything.

    • @TheGennen
      @TheGennen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh she was amazing. Playing on stereotypes and satire but only at the behind level, so that intellectuals could enjoy the comedy of it along with the romance, whilst the more vapid members of society could enjoy only the surface level story.

    • @TheoMurpse
      @TheoMurpse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I urge everyone to read Northanger Abbey, which is teenage Jane Austen taking the piss at every romance trope out there. Here is the Darcy-type romantic interest when he's talking to the female main character: "Thank you; for now we shall soon be acquainted, as I am authorized to tease you on this subject whenever we meet, and nothing in the world advances intimacy so much.”

    • @autumnwinter1462
      @autumnwinter1462 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess you could still call it a satirical romance

  • @caraboo6812
    @caraboo6812 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Okay I know you hate Emma, but the 2020 adaptation starring Anya Taylor-Joy is superb and hilarious

    • @dizzie1813
      @dizzie1813 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Also beautifully shot and has superb character development.

    • @thisisnani18
      @thisisnani18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ugh yesss it’s my favourite movie ever

    • @caggles
      @caggles 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It helps a lot that Emma and Knightley are clearly meant to be the same age in the 2020 version, instead of Knightley being old enough to be her father. All the bits about him watching her grow up and whatever (barf) are either re-written or recontextualized to make it sound like they grew up together. It made a HUGE difference for me in how that movie/romance comes across.

  • @memoblom2112
    @memoblom2112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Btw Jane Austen has stated very clearly that she was against slavery in some of her writing, especially in ”Chawton Novels”.

    • @MaidenOfHusbands
      @MaidenOfHusbands 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder how she felt about gays and lesbians tbh.

  • @melannydayrethratliff1309
    @melannydayrethratliff1309 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The worst part of the introduction is that victorian and edwardian is way later on than where Jane Austen was alive 😭
    This is regency era 😊

    • @doctorcanonvo4647
      @doctorcanonvo4647  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      The more people comment on this fact, the more I realize that my professor just wanted us to read Jane Austen cause the class was definitely about 1900s literature.

    • @melannydayrethratliff1309
      @melannydayrethratliff1309 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@doctorcanonvo4647 hahahahaha my gosh he just give u all an unnecessary trauma. Btw P&P was published 1813 🤣

    • @Littlepea2890
      @Littlepea2890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@doctorcanonvo4647 The 19th century are years 1800 - 1900 though😅

    • @bestwifman
      @bestwifman 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Littlepea2890she wrote 1900’s not 19th century

    • @Littlepea2890
      @Littlepea2890 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bestwifman some people are confused on 1900 vs 19th century. Context clues - she said she wasn't the best student and ALL the authors she listed are 19th century. What makes more sense? That someone who wasn't engaged in the course material and dropped out of that as a major makes a correct off hand comment on a youtube video years later or that she's mistaken about what the course entailed and is mistaking 1900s for 19th century?

  • @gaflene
    @gaflene ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Ive never gotten super into Jane Austen but I reread Pride and Prejudice all the time. This is tonally and thematically a very good adaptation. The coming of age analysis is on point, and that is what it is in the book. Basically what you expect to be in yhe book is what's there - more development of all the characters.

  • @melannydayrethratliff1309
    @melannydayrethratliff1309 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Actually what I love about Jane Austen is that her "romance books" are not mean to be romantic but a social commentary of the era.
    I think people are promoting Jane wrong 😂

    • @isabellafrancine1287
      @isabellafrancine1287 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ikr haha

    • @MonAhgasInsomniAroELF
      @MonAhgasInsomniAroELF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      well i mean, they're meant to be BOTH romance and social commentary. austen wanted her characters to always have happy endings, and if they weren't at all meant to be romance stories, she wouldn't have written romances, since social commentary/satire can come with any genre (mystery, drama, comedy, etc). her stories ARE romances. but they are also satire and social commentary. they are not mutually exclusive 👍

    • @MaidenOfHusbands
      @MaidenOfHusbands 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MonAhgasInsomniAroELFBut maybe it's just strictly social commentary because of the times and marriage being a social thing that had to happen, almost like a job. So maybe that's why I wouldn't be seen as a romance?? But idk

    • @MaidenOfHusbands
      @MaidenOfHusbands 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MonAhgasInsomniAroELFBut maybe it's just strictly social commentary because of the times and marriage being a social thing that had to happen, almost like a job. So maybe that's why I wouldn't be seen as a romance?? But idk

  • @dragontears
    @dragontears ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thank you for feeling the pining stuff and everything. I've watched a lot of reactions that are like oh Darcy thinks she has cooties and stuff lolol. Just COMPLETELY miss it all together because they're expecting modern romance stuff.

  • @freddiegillespie_05
    @freddiegillespie_05 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Jane Austen's work is about social class (which is pretty much impossible for us to relate to today) and money. Mrs Bennet looks crazy to us because she's a very silly woman and it mostly comes out in her desperation to get her daughters married. But, back in the late 18th century, she and her daughter would be left without a home and without money as soon as her husband died. Because their family income is all derived from the estate, and that goes to Mr Collins (the nearest male relation) as soon as Mrs Bennet dies.
    Hence why she wanted Lizzy to marry Mr Collins, which was obviously a big failure to read the room on her part, but which would have stopped her and her daughters from becoming homeless and without money as soon as Mr Bennet dies.
    The Bennets and Mr Darcy are actually in the same social class: landed gentry (aka their money comes from the land they own, but they're not in the aristocracy). The Bennets are just at the lower end of that class while the Darcys are at the higher end of it, revenue-wise. And Mr Darcy (and his family before him) is also better at putting money away, while the book makes it quite clear that Mr Bennet is kind of a lazy steward of his family's money. Like, he could have prevented all of his wife's silliness about wanted her daughters to marry rich men if he'd just been better at managing their finances, but he couldn't be bothered.

    • @lDaNu
      @lDaNu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also remember why Mrs. Bennet was happy that Lydia married. If she didn't after having run away with a man, she would be isolated by society and maybe even forced to a certain ancient profession that wasn't well seen by the time. The Bennet's sisters fate wouldn't be so dire, but by relation their reputations would have suffered severely, specially if they didn't choose to cut ties with her (which Mr. Colling encouraged)

  • @TheBigMe0w
    @TheBigMe0w 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I loved your "subtitles" of their conversations 😂 I love rereading this book around Christmas time. Their banter is great and Lizzie is so savage. I literally cheer while reading lol

  • @johnnehrich9601
    @johnnehrich9601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Technically, this era is called the "Regency," from 1811 to 1820 when George, Prince of Wales, governed the country as "Regent" (sort of a stand-in for a king) during the madness of his father George III. (Book was written in1813 and this movie shifts the time back a bit because they didn't like the fashions of this era as much.) Before that, "Georgian" due to the three King Georges, basically the 1700's. Most of the 1800's (1837-1901) is the "Victorian" era, and after that "Edwardian."
    The Industrial Revolution really kicked in during the Victorian era, with lots of factories, and most notably, railroads. Anything before that was pretty much the same in terms of culture all the way back through the Middle Ages, which gradually changes. Before the Victorian age, almost all wealth was tied up in land, and the old ruling class like Mr. Darcy were called "landed gentry." There is some prejudice against Mr. Bingley, because he made his fortune in "trade." To get himself a more established position in society, that is why he moves to this area and buys the property.
    The rise of the automobile in the 20th century really flipped social norms upside down, and the sexual revolution of the 1970's would have shocked the sensibilities in Jane Austen's time.
    At the time of this movie, everyone of any wealth had servants. The Bentleys are on the lower scale but even they had servants. Servants were always within earshot and any social transgressions they saw, they would gossip to the next-door servants and so on. So there was this very formalized way of speaking because the upper class were always "on stage" in a way. This is why even married people called each other by their last name. Servants would be called by their first or last name, no Miss, Mrs., or Mr. (Not both first and last name, one name only.)
    In the Edwardian era, you'd start seeing the earliest autos and bikes (the modern version invented in the 1880's), gaslights and some electric lights, telephones, typewriters, sewing machines, the early phonographs with those giant horns, player pianos, photographs.

  • @chaptereight2639
    @chaptereight2639 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's true Darcy insulted her to her face and that was NOT the way to go about proposing. But honestly from his perspective everything he said was 100% on point. When his sister married, he would have to pay her husband £30,000, and when his own hypothetical daughters married he'd have to pay their husbands dowries AT LEAST that big to maintain social standing, and he'd need to provide help to any younger sons to establish professions, and he'd have to provide for his wife's income for the rest of her life if he died before her. His job was to marry a woman with a large enough dowry to replace at least some of that money so the estate didn't diminish. By marrying Lizzy, he was doing something insane and financially ridiculous by the standards of the time.
    And Lizzy's parents and sisters showing a "lack of propriety" was a valid concern. Mr. Bennet was a lackadaisal manager who couldn't save money for his daughters' dowries or control his wife's or daughters' behavior. Mrs. Bennet was literally going around stating out loud (very loudly) in public that she expected Jane to have an advantageous marriage to Mr. Bingley. And Lydia and Kitty were essentially feral by the standards of Darcy's society. Their behavior was a poor reflection on Elizabeth, and if Darcy married Elizabeth and took her family into society he'd be essentially a laughing stock, and their behavior would reflect poorly on him, his sister, and any future children.
    I feel like a great example of that is when Mrs. Bennet says how could Lydia do this, no one will take any of you girls when you have a fallen sister, and you were like "That's what you're worried about?!" Yeah. It was. Because these girls HAD to get married or else when their father died be virtually penniless and homeless. And in this time, if you had a sister who was fallen (ran away with a man and lived with him for a while without being married), that sin was imputed to the other daughters and it was assumed they were also loose immoral women. No one would marry them. If Darcy hadn't found Lydia and gotten her married to Wickham, he wouldn't have been able to marry Lizzy without her reputation as a loose woman being to some extent imputed to his own sister and his future children.

    • @thegirlofmanyfandoms99
      @thegirlofmanyfandoms99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And after all that shizz, Darcy STILL wanted to marry Elizabeth and he genuinely loved her.

  • @caraboo6812
    @caraboo6812 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I’m so happy you gave this film a chance, this is one of the best reactions I’ve seen ❤

  • @KB42moomoo
    @KB42moomoo ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'm so glad you enjoyed it! considering you felt like it was highly edited, with lots left to be explored, you could try the 1995 miniseries? it's absolutely my favourite adaptation

  • @caitydid1306
    @caitydid1306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Your reaction to him saying “you have bewitched me body and soul” is my internal reaction every time I hear him say it 😂

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like this observation of the closeness of everyone else's juxtaposed against the isolation of Mr. Darcy.

  • @melannydayrethratliff1309
    @melannydayrethratliff1309 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Emma was more of a satirical and social commentary on rich people, so I recommend you the new adaptation of Emma 2020 with Anya Taylor-Joy.

  • @galmanferguson
    @galmanferguson ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mary just wants her record deal. I spat my tea all over my bed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Natalie-hi9gc
    @Natalie-hi9gc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I absolutely love your text observations. Its an exemplary commentary of the movie 😂

  • @hazell1304
    @hazell1304 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This film is such a special thing between me and my sister. We grew up loving it, and whenever we were having a tough time for whatever reason we'd watch it together. So obviously I'm biased but I ADORE this film.
    Fun fact, the original uk ending had the film finishing after Mr Bennet asked if any one is there to marry the other sisters, "I'm quite at their leisure" which I personally like a lot more (probably because of said bias).
    Anyway as always your commentary is so insightful and clever and hilarious. Thanks the video!

    • @nathanruggles
      @nathanruggles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, but that final scene with Lizzie and Darcy is oh so romantic, don't you think? I can't imagine this film without that final moment.

    • @hazell1304
      @hazell1304 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nathanruggles imo the film does a great job of setting up the expected levels of contact between unmarried men and women, and utilises it to build the tension well. Lizzy and Darcy are obviously in love at the end, the sunrise forehead touch is iconic... the post wedding seen just feels like such a different vibe ya know? It doesn't really feel like it matches the rest of the movie.
      But again that's just me and i do be biased haha

    • @nathanruggles
      @nathanruggles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hazell1304 I see what you're saying, certainly. I just feel it's a natural extension of everything you said as they enter married live, and we get a peek into that new life together as we share with them a blissful moment.
      But to each their own. :)

  • @Julie-rv1ml
    @Julie-rv1ml ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm so glad you enjoyed this version! If you want a more faithful to the book version there is a 1990s bbc mini series (6 eps I think) where collin firth was Mr Darcy. He plays it more to the book who has not just an awkward man but a proud and arrogant man (the pride to her prejudice so to speak).
    He is awkward but he honestly does look down on Elizabeth due to her connections (connections are everything back then as marriage was a business venture) and I found it fascinating the little creative changes they made in the 2005 version such as Mr bingley naming Elizabeth when he is saying shes attractive and Mr Darcy says she is not tolerable enough while in the 1990s version Mr bingley just says sister and bless mary but she was the sister next to lizzie so its left ambigious if he ment lizzie or mary. We see more mr wickham and how he fits into the whole story and more darcy vs lizzie scenes so we get a whole experience of their tension.
    I will say this when Miss bingley (2005 movie version) was throwing shade at lizzie for her family having laughing as a family trait, that was a huge insult. It was seen as vulgar and unbecoming for a person (especially women) to laugh so much as they were seen as fake and bootlickers, along with frivolous.
    Lizzie is famous for saying this line in P&P "I am happier even than Jane; she only smiles, I laugh. " Lizzie was considered very charming not just due to being sassy like in 2005 but because of her arched way of speaking that left the viewer wondering if she was complimenting them or insulting them. She also toes the line by smiling and laughing "just enough to be genuine" while Lydia was famous for laughing so much that she was seen as a wild, stupid , frivolous girl who didn't take anything seriously.
    There is a bit of an age gap between lizzie and charlotte. So shes already almost a certified "spinster" as she's nearly 30(i believe 27) while lizzie is described as being early 20s (so 20-23 max). Mr Darcy is actually about the same age as Charlotte as hes seen as late 20s (26-30).
    I don't know if the movie made this clear for you but the bennets are in a very awkward space socially and financially. technically their home has an income of about 2000 pounds a year which was enough for someone in the landed gentry to be comfortably wealthy. However their home and all of this money is willed to a male heir, in this case Mr collins. He will be the owner of their home and technically can kick them all out the minute mr bennet dies. Women of Mrs bennet and her daughters station didn't have a lot of options to make money honestly and still be accepted by their community and society so the most socially acceptable way is marriage.
    To be frank the real reason the girls will be poor isnt even the fact that mr collins is set to inherit. its that mr bennet and his wife suck at saving money and making a fund for each of them. there is a 4-5% interest during this time in england so when they say "2000 pounds a yr" thats the actual interest amount not the whole worth of the estate. so if they had saved lets say 50 pounds a year and split it to 10 pounds for each girl by the time they married they would have about 1000-2000 pounds as a dowery which if they never married could sustain them for a few years.
    Instead due to mr and mrs bennet bad money handling they are only entitled to mrs bennets dowry at the time of her death (she had 4000 pounds plus an extra 1000 pounds given to her as a gift from mr bennet) so each girl would get 1000 pounds when she dies. Unfortunately the little money their dad did have when he started way too late to save will only give them 50 pounds a yr.
    So let me give you a bit of context: The poorest labourer at that time made roughly 20-30 pounds a year. Meaning the girls literally will be very very poor once their father dies and will only have enough money to live comfortably in their station when their mother dies. This is very awkard for them cause landed gentry are considered just under titled nobles as they're usually descended from older lines.
    Fun fact: The bingleys are new money which is why they're renting the house you see them in. they don't have land and either their father or grandfather was a tradesman (a richer kind of labourer that could accumulate enough wealth to be able to access some nobility only stuff). Its why miss bingley disapproves of jane as a sister in law, she wants to move up in the world (as is expected since she mentions she went to a "finishing school" to Learn how to be a high society lady" and would have been expected by her parents to marry up). Technically jane is higher rank than Miss bingley because her family has land and long history of being land owners, but their lack of wealth and connections makes them technically lower than mr bingely and his sister. So you could argue that mr bingley is marrying up and marrying down at the same time.
    Going back to lydia, the big issue is that reputation is EVERYTHING at this era and unfortunately if one sister messed up and you were unfortunately living in small community? your chances for a good marriage were gone (it was more flexible in cities). Mr Darcy bribed mr wickham to marry lydia so at least they looked like eager love birds instead of a loose woman and a very horny man doing the dirty with no strings attached (which is what Mr Wickham wanted to do and has done before: the fate of these kind of women isn't kind since if they returned to their families they would either be banished to small town or married to the poorest men around who weren't picky about their wives or both; if she had stayed away and hid in the city she would most likely end up as a prostitute or as a maid doing the cheapest labour to survive)
    By doing this all of lizzie's sisters wouldn't have the stigma of being from the "wrong kind of famly" and have a chance to marry.
    Sorry for the rant I hope you enjoyed my explanations and very very general simplifications of this era and all of its nuances. xD

    • @allisonfisher9304
      @allisonfisher9304 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for this explanation, I usually find myself leaving the exact same kind of comment on reaction videos, and you were even more thorough than I😂💖

  • @solamadoo
    @solamadoo ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This made me wish I could go back in time and experience Pride and Prejudice for the first time again, because it's been years since I last watched it with someone who didn't know that Wickham is lying, or that Charlotte marries Mr. Collins, or that Lady Catherine barges in at the end. So much fun to watch it all come together for you. And while a lot of people are recommending the Emma adaptation with Anya Taylor Joy, I gotta say, I did like that movie but for me the best Emma adaptation will always be Clueless.

  • @RhiannonNeale
    @RhiannonNeale ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mary doesn't feel bad for Mr Collins, she's in love with him! It's very understated and background, but if you watch her watch him it's clear.

    • @soyaliovee
      @soyaliovee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I can’t say in love, in the book, it’s clear that she admired his insightfulness and they have some book reading sessions, and it’s true that for her, the idea of marrying Mr. Collins is great cause she just want to have a study buddy, and at least she could satisfy her mother’s wishes. Tho it’s unfortunate that instead of turning to her after Liz rejected him (which Mary anticipated apparently) he chose to marry Charlotte

    • @soyaliovee
      @soyaliovee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The thought of love for Mary isn’t really in his character

  • @caggles
    @caggles 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of my favourite little pieces of trivia about this movie is that the actresses who played the Bennett sisters all lived together during production, to encourage the EXACT sort of family intimacy that you keep mentioning. They really did such an exceptional job with the production of this movie.

  • @2Fangirl
    @2Fangirl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    According to the book, their ages are as follows: Jane 22, Lizzie 20, Mary 18, Kitty 17 and Lydia 15.

  • @kunglaoshat1250
    @kunglaoshat1250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the first reaction I’ve seen from you and I love your energy and commentary. The little notes throughout were hilarious

  • @S0LAVELLANHELL
    @S0LAVELLANHELL ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this movie is what started my pining, feels like unrequited love, and also my descent into other tropes that i adore in books, obsession lol. it really shaped why i adore romance in books, games, tv, etc and why i love romance/romance sub-plots, and why books are my fav thing in the world !

  • @Musicluvr4
    @Musicluvr4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m not a huge fan of Jane Austen either but I’m in LOVE with this movie.

  • @jimmiejam508
    @jimmiejam508 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think you are my absolute dream channel. as a fellow black former english major i'm so glad i stumbled here on a tuesday afternoon. immediately subbing.

  • @trollnystan
    @trollnystan ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Haven't finished the video but just a tiiiiiiny nitpick for the beginning: Jane Austen is Georgian/Regency era, not Victorian or Edwardian. Love, a certified Jane Austen lover (except Mansfield Park)
    EDIT: Also, though I enjoy this movie, my favourite is still the BBC 1995 adaptation. It was my introduction to Austen in the 90's when I was a kid and Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle are just MY Darcy and Elizabeth.
    EDIT 2: I don't think it was a cotillion ball/debutante ball as much as the movie trying to contrast the red of the officers' uniform with the ladies in white. In the book at least it was just a neighbourhood ball hosted by Mr Bingley.
    EDIT 3: To further explain where this is set in time: Georgian era was from the early 1700s to the late 1830s. The part of it that is called Regency, so called because George III's "illness" meant his son acted as regent during some of these years, is a period of 20-30 years from around 1795 to late 1820s, or thereabouts. The Edwardian era however is during King Edward VII's reign and a little after, 1901-1914. Sorry about this btw, but history is one of my interests and I twitch in a neurodivergent way every time you say "Edwardian" lol

    • @nathanruggles
      @nathanruggles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      All right on point! (except maybe the part about the '95 adaptation, if I may say so: for some of us the beauty of the cinematography, music, and oners, along with an amazing cast all around and more make this version our fav.)

    • @trollnystan
      @trollnystan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nathanruggles That is totally valid; the movie is a beautiful piece of art and there are scenes I love in it, like Bingley secretively running his fingers over Jane's ribbon, or the way Darcy flexes his hand after helping Lizzie into the carriage, or the domestic scenes of the Bennets. The '95 version will probably always be my favourite however, as to me it captures the way book makes me feel better.

    • @sherigrow6480
      @sherigrow6480 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, this. Regency,

    • @papercup2517
      @papercup2517 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had to stop watching and come down here to the comments to say the same thing! It's so obvious, even just by looking at the clothing, that it's neither Victorian nor Edwardian - at least if you have any idea at all of fashion history. IMO, that Georgian/Regency period was much more elegant and subtly sexy, clothing-wise, for both women and men.... (I mean, who doesn't prefer a cutaway tailcoat with a ruffled white shirt and long riding boots, to the boring sort of stuff men wear these days...?) 🙂

    • @kimberlyhawkins2674
      @kimberlyhawkins2674 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love the miniseries because it adhered to the book much more closely, ( i.e. Lady Katherine doesn’t visit the Bennett home in the middle of the night) but I prefer this cast, and I wish they could’ve done a miniseries with this cast. As for the fashion, my only objection is when Bingley’s sister wears sleeveless dresses. That didn’t happen in this era.

  • @niamhfox9559
    @niamhfox9559 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    In comparison to the 95 version, they are so much more visually accurate and you can actually see the staff everywhere, the space between each person in each scene is so deliberate. This film did not get the respect it deserved when it came out.
    Oh I forgot the Collins proposal scene. It is horrifying, the giant ham is so well placed. She just feels served up on a platter.

  • @niamhfox9559
    @niamhfox9559 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Collins and Wickham are such odd romance trope competitors for Lizzy, Collins just wanted a wife because Lady Deburgh (sp?) said he should have one and is A GIANT CREEP, and Wickham isn't actually into her, Lizzy is just access to the bloody youngest he can get his hands on. He's the creepiest of all the men in it and no one spots him till the shit hits the fan.

  • @susanb4213
    @susanb4213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As much as I love P & P, my favorite novel and film is Sense and Sensibility. I loved your insights here. I'm glad you liked the story/film!

  • @AzaleaLuna
    @AzaleaLuna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you. You said exactly what I think when I watch videos from romance book readers that say misunderstandings are not realistic. lol. Excuse me. Happens in real life all the time. How can it not be realistic.
    This is one of my favorite movies. I enjoy romance and this really was the first enemies to lovers romance. I also love the cinematography. It's just beautiful.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Husbands and wives are split up at fancy dinners so they can make conversation with other guests, particularly those who might be shy or alone.

  • @crimefite1316
    @crimefite1316 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just wanted to say, this was neither Victorian nor Edwardian- Victorian is from 1837-1901 and Edwardian is 1901-1919. Pride and Prejudice is considered Regency era as it was published in 1813, but it was written in like 1797. Regency era is from 1811-1820, so like WW1 wasn't going to be for another 100 years. Your commentary is really enjoyable though and I love how much you have to say about it. So many YT reactors are just like 'wow' or 'I got chills'. I love hearing about your personal relationship with the material and I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

  • @deannajones3849
    @deannajones3849 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love this movie and the strong woman Keira Knightley portrayed! She stood up for herself in times where it wasn't done!

  • @Becky.Ray14
    @Becky.Ray14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joe Wright is also the director of Atonement another beautifully shot movie, with Kiera Knightly and James MacAvoy. This was his first movie and when he signed on to the film he hadn't read the book nor seen the mini series. he did a beautiful job of evoking the emotion of source material and yes I agree that everything about this movie reinforces how gorgeous England is.

  • @meemo32086
    @meemo32086 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG!! I'd love a rendition of this where Darcy IS a Vampire!

  • @moniquita720
    @moniquita720 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember the version that I watched of this movie ending on the father's face. Which I LOVED. But like, this ending is cute, I just didnt know it existed.

    • @campjinx
      @campjinx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The American version added the final scene of Lizzie and Darcy together. It’s definitely worth checking out.

  • @MrSmokinDragon
    @MrSmokinDragon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    a wonderful example of how judgemental people can be (and I don't mean the characters in the movie...)

  • @NickB5882
    @NickB5882 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Whickham Lydia situation has been explained by the other youtuber comments. I agree with you. It really was different times, different rules, and different ways back then.
    Love that you really liked Mr Bennet. He’s the kind of father I’d like to be for my daughter. His… “I would not have parted with you for any one less worthy” line and execution is killer.
    Also really like the fact that you commented about Rosamund’s / Jane’s tears of joy acting. I think it’s one of my most favorite parts of this movie.

  • @67LMcC
    @67LMcC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad you liked this. Try Emma Thompson's "Sense & Sensibility". Also very very good Austen.

  • @terrylewis_
    @terrylewis_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved all the little editing tidbits you added.

  • @sahnaxp
    @sahnaxp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jane Austen lover here. Great reaction!This film, like the book, is one of my all-time favourites. It took me a good while to warm up to Emma, but it has some great merit. The 2020 adaptation of Emma is brilliant - would love to watch you react to that.

  • @onlyalbatross
    @onlyalbatross 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is legit one of the best movie reactions I've ever seen. I enjoyed every minute. You have a new subscriber. And also maybe Dr Lopez woke up confused in the middle of the night and didn't know why.

  • @GregInHouston2
    @GregInHouston2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would suggest you watch Sense and Sensibility from 1995. But another adaption that you should find fun is "Lost in Austen"; a twist where a 21st century girl trades places with Elizabeth Bennett.

  • @aquiamorgan2416
    @aquiamorgan2416 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have read so much literature from the era that I had quite forgotten how hard the dialogue was to follow at first.

  • @CometTheMicroraptor
    @CometTheMicroraptor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 1995 TV adapation does a GREAT job of getting all the details of the story if you ever want more, but totally understand if it's not quite something you want to visit again lol

  • @khrisbreezy3628
    @khrisbreezy3628 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The only thing I think this movie was missing was Wickham and Lizzie's final conversation. Wickham is more sympathetic to Lizzie's view and the readers after Darcy's actions and they have a nice talk about things and leave on better terms than the movie makes it seem. Tad bit of a redemption and its really heartwarming to my recollection.

  • @LizJasonHEA
    @LizJasonHEA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I know it's been a few months since you posted this but I just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed your reaction to pride and prejudice better than any other I've ever seen. Your sense of humor your engagement with the characters is great. That something I do when watching a film that is engaging. That just means it's a good enough to get me involved.
    Also in love your comment that you would post The cinematic direction and why scenes were shot a certain way. I mean I can say oh I love the way that was filmed I love the cinematography I love the way it was directed but I don't really know why. You really broke that down for me so thank you again.
    I'm a 68-year old semi retired educator. I read the book in college too and I loved it but I didn't really get its significance until much later. Then I realized likely 75 or more % of all romances or dramas are based on it pay homage to either Jane Austen or William Shakespeare.
    Again I say thanks for the entertainment tonight and for making me laugh and appreciate this movie in a different way.

  • @heliotropezzz333
    @heliotropezzz333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first version of Pride and Prejudice I've seen where the actor plays Mr Bingley as a bit of an idiot, an air head.

  • @nickgee461
    @nickgee461 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is set in the Georgian era (specifically the Regency period), almost 100 years before the Edwardian. The novel dates from 1813 - 24 years before Victoria ascended the throne and 88 years before Edward VII.

  • @dragontears
    @dragontears ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 2020 Emma version was really well done, and I say that as an English major Jane Austen hater too. Also very beautiful and great acting. Not as good as this, but Bill Nighy is just ❤.

  • @molls91
    @molls91 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am loving this reaction!!

  • @noaaa7
    @noaaa7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is my first video from you but it certainly won't be the last! You're articulate, knowledgeable and open-minded. All things I love from great reactors!

  • @thewordshifter
    @thewordshifter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved your reaction! It was essentially what I've written in the margins over my many times reading the novel. You picked up on so much that most first timers dont!

  • @isabelnoyer5893
    @isabelnoyer5893 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved this reaction SO much... Girl you are so much fun! I was rolling in the floor with your AITA on-screen text over Bingley's sister hahahaha! Would you consider reacting to 'You've got Mail' (1998)-with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan-at some point? Nora and Delia Ephron's best movie, in my opinion, and it's sort of an adaptation of/homage to Pride and Prejudice...!

  • @leighkamp9457
    @leighkamp9457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved your review. I will look for more...

  • @sherigrow6480
    @sherigrow6480 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have always loved the book. But as I have gone through life, my favorite is now Persuasion. There's never been a good screen adaptation of it tho. Regency times for Austin, 100 years before Edwardian. Mr. Darcy grew up without a mother, for context. The book finishes many storylines. McFayden currently in the series Succession.

    • @audreywineland1426
      @audreywineland1426 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves in “The Lake House” is built around that book.

  • @TheLunaKeat
    @TheLunaKeat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mansfield Park(1999 and 2007) and Emma(1996 and 2020) movies are quite good too. Also "Becoming Jane", a movie lightly about Jane Austen life is great too.

    • @LizzieJaneBennet
      @LizzieJaneBennet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A good Mansfield Park is yet to be done. I don't like those adaptations.
      Becoming Jane is not as interesting as Jane's stories, but it is very pleasant to watch.👍

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to swing on a tire swing like that; it doesn't do the rope any good, let me tell you.

  • @blackeyedlily
    @blackeyedlily 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you truly would be interested in more of an exploration of the main characters and the subplots, the 1995 BBC mini series definitely provides more of that, and the book wraps up all of the subplots quite nicely. The older I get the more that I appreciate Jane Austin’s Persuasion. It is a book about second chances. I was quite interested when you said you were going to cover the Great Gatsby and Romeo and Juliet. I will definitely check those out. They are two of my favorite stories. Not so much for the storylines as for the beautiful prose that each of those stories consist of.

  • @phishcatt
    @phishcatt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Liz is twenty one, so I don't think she looks younger or needs to, even for that time's standards.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was a very fun reaction. You may also want to check out the version of _Sense and Sensibility_ with Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet and maybe the _Persuasion_ with Amanda Root. The _Mansfield Park_ with Frances O'Connor changes a lot (like making the shy heroine a writer--and using Jane Austen's wild juvenilia as her writing) and dealing with the slave trade, somewhat, although I don't know exactly what to say about that. If you don't want to do an official _Emma,_ _Clueless_ is also an adaptation of it. Thanks for your reaction.

  • @orangemarmalade77
    @orangemarmalade77 ปีที่แล้ว

    This title is incredible and I can't wait to watch this when I get home tonight!

  • @ammaleslie509
    @ammaleslie509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a great reaction I watched it twice!

  • @matthewheimerdinger9118
    @matthewheimerdinger9118 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also, this gives you a good excuse to watch "Bride and Prejudice"

    • @SS-ui7by
      @SS-ui7by ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmaoo, as an Indian, I never want to watch that shit ever again.
      Barring the gorgeous Aishwarya Rai, even she was done dirty by that role, everything else was,,, not good. To say the least.

  • @marthawolfsen5809
    @marthawolfsen5809 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fall and winter they were probably at their London townhouses.

  • @MagiBg
    @MagiBg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reaction was priceless!!! I love Darcy so much so I am rooting for Tom in Succession lol

  • @ninnarainha
    @ninnarainha 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now you NEED to watch 'Persuasion'. Like, the top 2 ever.

  • @theresebizabishaka7605
    @theresebizabishaka7605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pride and prejudice was a prescribed novel in my senior year. I loved it and read it and reread it multiple times. I like the 1995 miniseries because it closely mirrors the witt of the novel. The 2005 version is visually stunning. You should read the novel to truely appreciate the genius of Jane Austen who was a social commentator of women in her times.

  • @CarlosRodriguez-pz8qi
    @CarlosRodriguez-pz8qi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi TK (I apologize if I got that wrong) , I've only commented twice on YT, and both were on political news. I also saw a lot of reactions to Pride and Prejudice (one of my favs) and I have to say, I love your reactions! Your authenticity in a field of copy-cats wanting the feed the algorithm was refreshing... Thank you so much! I wish you the best on all that life offers.

  • @SuperDrLisa
    @SuperDrLisa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The British version didn't have the kiss at the end. Elizabeth was about 20 and Darcy is about 27

  • @orangemarmalade77
    @orangemarmalade77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed your reaction to this and now i have to rewatch the movie (which i don't think I've seen since it came out).

  • @SS-ui7by
    @SS-ui7by ปีที่แล้ว +3

    38:10 me EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME I WATCH THIS FILM, ohhhh god its beautiful

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you ever watch the _Anna Karenina_ with Knightley (or if you have already), that has the same director and "Mr. Darcy" appears in the role of Anna's brother.

  • @lethasatterfield9615
    @lethasatterfield9615 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WWI would have occurred about 50 years after these characters were dead. I think the book was published around 1802.

    • @eliza.rose.morrison
      @eliza.rose.morrison 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Written in the late 1790s, published in 1813. 😄

  • @niacasterlow8300
    @niacasterlow8300 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jane Austen's "Sanditon" and I believe "Mansfield Park" too touches on the slave trade discussion, which was ahead of her time.

  • @73005
    @73005 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should read the book! Full of satire! Awesome read.

  • @anne-mariesindruprix4792
    @anne-mariesindruprix4792 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should see sense and sensibility -‘the version with Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant and Alan Rickman among others - it got an.Oscar .

  • @ammaleslie509
    @ammaleslie509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OK now you need to see Emma Thompson's 1995 adaptation of Sense and Sensibility.
    Immediately 😁

  • @deejohnson1880
    @deejohnson1880 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watch the version of Pride and Prejudice made in 1995. It's six one hour episodes. It covets alot that was cut with the movie.

  • @helenalucca6556
    @helenalucca6556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok, hear me out. I'm a big big BIG Austen fan and I think you got it all right. This is awesome. Thanks

  • @paulf2123
    @paulf2123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I subscribed. You have a cool personality

  • @barrymoreblue
    @barrymoreblue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    37:52 LOL! Love Howl and Sophie! 😂❤😂

  • @rincaimo812
    @rincaimo812 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I keep rewatching this reaction cause it is so fun watching you get so PUMPED for their romance. I have a blast watching your reactions and love your thoughts and analysis. Can't wait for Romeo and Juilet/Great Gatsby! Which versions are you going with?

  • @thefantastikbookmaker817
    @thefantastikbookmaker817 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s worth reading the book to read the details of what’s happening. The movie is not detailing all the conversations and dances. The 1995 movie details all from the book but it’s not as enchanting and captivating as this 2005 version.

  • @karidrgn
    @karidrgn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 modern takes on this are You've got Mail... where she is the owner of a small book store and he's the owner of a large chain. They only know each other via email.
    Bride and Prejudice ... which is a bollywood musical.

  • @KathrynElizabethJaneway
    @KathrynElizabethJaneway 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A century too early for WWI.

  • @SweetHooligan1848
    @SweetHooligan1848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The irony is.......your reaction to this film IS very Mrs Bennett!!

  • @MonAhgasInsomniAroELF
    @MonAhgasInsomniAroELF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i know i am 6 months late to this and you may never see this but first, i'm glad you enjoyed this one! it's one of my fav movies, and my "sick movie" (i watch it every time i'm sick, it just makes me feel a little better). also you mentioned BLs and not being super into romances that are just all romance, you like some action and politics in the plot, and omg same! there are some BLs i just can't get into regardless of how popular they are because i find the solo romantic plot, while sweet, to be just a bit too boring. i like my romance as a side plot to action/mystery/drama. so i have two BLs that i HIGHLY recommend for you: Not Me (you want politics and action? you got politics, action, and more!), and Manner Of Death (a murder mystery, need i say more). i hope you'll see this and i hope you'll consider reacting to them, or even just watching them on your own time some day :)

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the word spinster; I wrote an essay about it. But that's beside the point.

  • @shanecomeback8296
    @shanecomeback8296 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Inconceivable

  • @monio.9444
    @monio.9444 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I'm new here. I must have watched 10 reactions on this movie, but I wanted to say that I like yours best because I feel like you actually payed attention to the subtle things, the symbolism, the dragonfly, the 2 of them being presented as equals, by themselves, as if the entire world disappeared and so on. No wonder you studied literature. In many reactions people just talk over the most key parts and then ask what happened. Another movie similar with this is "Becoming Jane", that one is really really good too. It's inspired by Jane Austen's life, and even though a large part of it is speculation based on letters (or lack there of, because her sister burned a chunk of them so that they don't get published) it's good quality speculation and storytelling. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna take a look at your channel and see what other movies have you watched hehe :)

  • @Trulla-op4yb
    @Trulla-op4yb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I spit a little - I was excited
    I love it!!

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kelly Reilly, who plays Miss Bingley, has been in a lot of different things that I can't think of right now. She played Mary Morstan to Jude Law's Watson in the two Guy Richie movies.

  • @lindsaythemorallygay4586
    @lindsaythemorallygay4586 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think this takes around 100 years prior to the Edwardian era? They went through a lot of eras back then LOL I can barely keep track of all of them, but most of Jane Austen’s books sort of all take place in the 1810s in the Regency period. Those folks had weird social rules that stayed for a really long time though

  • @susanstein6604
    @susanstein6604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pride and Prejudice is set in around 1805. or 1820 in the Regency period.
    Women could not inherit property so Mr Collins will inherit the Bennett’s property.