Why Russia is INCAPABLE of Air Superiority in Ukraine
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- Russia, the offender with the larger military, has been unable to achieve air superiority in the 2022 invasion of Ukraine. But why?
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I worked with a former Wild Weasel pilot who flew in Iraq and Afghanistan. He told me that there was a message they'd broadcast to tell each other that they'd fired the missile. Eventually they realised they could broadcast this message on open frequencies, and the enemy SAMs would turn off their radars to hide. So they would fly around broadcasting the message without actually firing the missile, and the enemy would keep turning off their radars, suppressing themselves!
"Magnum" is the word no one working SAMs wants to hear.
@@thetrainshop
The word my girlfriend was hoping for
lol thats big brain
That was smart weasel.
@@freedfree7933 She's probably hoping for a large bottle of Champaign🍾🥂
Thank you for pointing out why NATO won't set up no fly zone for Ukraine.
Military Aviation History did a decent video on that very subject
Nah that would definitely trigger ww3
And precisely because the Ukrainian army is doing a great job, President Zelensky is constantly whining about the no-fly zone and blaming NATO for his mistakes?
If we do that we declare war with Russia I would figure if they could they would
that'll definitely would trigger WW3 tbh simple answer to that
I used to work with an AE-6 EWO and he would talk about his SEAD missions over North Vietnam. One such was seeing a SAM-2 launch and turn toward them, guiding.
After a bit watching it apparently not move - meaning you were looking right at it and it was heading directly for you - he nudged his pilot who snapped back irritably, "I see it! I see it!"
The ending cracked me up hahaha
“Everything is going to plan” 🤣
One thing to note: I have seen a lot of people in the media using the term air superiority for situations that would better fit the definition of air supremacy. Air Supremacy would be what the coalition air forces had during the ground phase of the First Gulf War. Air Superiority is when air space is dominated by one force, but the opposing force still has the capability to contest local air spaces for a limited time, otherwise put, the ability to achieve temporary local air parity.
Well said
Actually i think you mixed those two up.
In my experience, the term air superiority is used for when air space is dominated by one force, but the opposing force still has the capability to contest local air spaces (Mainly through ground-to-air missiles).
While air supremacy goes further, wherein the oppsing force is incapable of effective interference.
I hope i could help clear that up.
@@henrikreiter5662 i think the same, according to NATO, air supremacy is the highest one
@@henrikreiter5662 Yes I agree. Air supremacy is total control and air superiority is major control.
@@henrikreiter5662 from NATO themselves Air supremacy Aerial incapability
Aerial superiority Aerial denial
I wonder how many FUNCTIONAL planes they actually have. With the rampant evidence of neglect and disrepair on ground vehicles it would not surprise me if the majority of the aircraft were out of service. With the decades of corruption and neglect I would not surprise me if they they only kept enough functioning to maintain appearances while pocketing much of the air forces budget.
They literally release reports on number of aircraft that are combat ready
@@PAllen74 You mean the same reports also would have said that the wheeled vehicles were being moved enough so their tires didn't dry rot. Russia's military has a well known culture of corruption and skimming wherever possible then falsifying reports. There is also a culture of punishing the messenger so no one wants to be the one who tells their boss that the reports are wrong.
Jet aircraft are extremely complex machines that can go bad just from sitting around. Military fighter jets are even worse. Any corner cutting could easily lead a large portion of the airforce grounded.
It's not the aircraft it's the pilots. My Russian is a bit rusty, but I was reading a discussion between Russians and more than once I saw that they were estimating that Russia only had between 300 - 500 trained combat pilots at the outset of the war. Now I'm not sure if that is fixed wing pilots or both fixed wing and rotary pilots. If it's both, then it is entirely possible that Russia has lost 20% of their trained combat pilots in the last two weeks.
Of all Russian military branches, the Air Force is the most impacted by alcoholism, their personnel have free access to a vast amount of alcohol for braking and electronic systems. The Mig-25 was know inside the Air Force as the “flying Restaurant”, because it needed a lot of alcohol to flight.
The problem was so bad, that the crew’s wives protested, asking for a substitute of alcohol in the avionics systems.
@@freedomloverusa3030 Yeah, alcohool was used as coolant in many bombers. The pilots and technicians smuggled, used and sold plenty of reserves.
Unlike the US, Russia doesn't have an airpower-centric philosophy of warfare. Their air force serves mainly defensive purposes, i.e. denying the enemy use of the airspace overhead their army. Even then, they're acutely aware of their technological inferiority, so they've built sophisticated air defence systems like the S-300 and S-400 to defend against superior Nato air forces.
I don't understand the Russian reluctance to improve on their technology. They do in some areas, and abandon others. For example the Su-25 Frogfoot isn't as good as an A-10 Warthog as far as power and efficiency, but it's still a pretty mean armor buster in its own right and it seems they could update something like that.
@@robwalsh9843 It's a command economy. Nothing happens unless the president or some general orders an update of existing hardware.
what if killing modern AA-missiles is easier said than done. When the US attacked a Nation it typically had outdated second class AA.
@@christofincognito4530 Do you honestly believe that S-400 is any good? I don't think so, the Ukrainian Air Force is still fighting and they are shooting down Russian jets with old Buks and S-300. It's less about the systems than their employment, but Russia isn't good in either of those categories.
@@nobodynoname6062 evidence for that? Let me guess, you believe that Ghost of Kiew shot down 9999 enemy jets and destroyed all S400 SAM sites. S400 is probably decent, since USA always heavily intervenes when a country wants to buy it
I personally attended the Dubai Airshow in the late 90's. During the 5 days of display flying the F-16, flown by a General Dynamics test pilot, amazed crowds. The plane seemed to defy gravity and actually pulled up into a near hover and accelerated vertically. The soviets brought a MiG 29 to the show and over the course of 5 days the flight crew was only able to manage one of the demonstration flights, and that was on the very last day. The plane was amazing and the pilot skills were world class [Even got to see the Cobra maneuver first hand] but the fact that the aircraft was only able to make 20% of its demonstration flight schedule spoke volumes. Of course there was one other thing that was super odd to me. As an aircraft mechanic I had to marvel at the fact that the majority of the close out panels on the tail were fastened with straight slot screws. Seemed odd.
Russian planeta Are war planes,cooldown of f16,f18ect,Is 12-16 hours
About the straight-slot screws. This might be less of a problem if the air in that region is already turbulent wen the airflow gets to it. You see this on riveted planes as well. During the laminar flow part rivets are neatly worked away while at the part of the aircraft where the flow is turbulent anyway its not worth the trouble.
Not sure but that might be the reason.
hey ivan, we forgot the screws
just jam something in it comrade XD
What kind of screws supposed to be on the tail? Rivets? Welds? We don’t know because we’re not mechanics for planes but would like to know. Thanks 🤝
@@justsomecoolprayingmantisd6422 Since the late 50's most US aircraft are outfitted with some form of tri-wing or quad-wing screws. Lockheed used a tri-wing screw we called Lockheed tips and the quad wings I have used on Gulfstreams for four decades are hi-torques. straight slot screws are sometimes used for access panels but the ones I mentioned were on closeout panels.
6:06 A Wild Weasel pilot once described his job as, "Hunting Elephant Guns with Elephants."
I mean thats *exactly* what it is.
Plane vs Anti plane
HaaaHaaaha !🙂
One other factor is that most SEAD missions undertaken by Air Force Units over Iraq were actually DEAD missions. Once the weasels had disabled the radars additional planes were sent in to bomb the launchers and other vehicles. This eats up a LOT of sorties (this is where that 30% number comes from). But it means that launcher unit is GONE. Knocking out a radar may help today, but that can be fixed. The Russian sortie count has been too low to really remove much in the way of defenses.
The complication is both the Ukrainian’s and the Russians are using exactly the same equipment. Target differentiation is a nightmare.
I wonder if knowledge of SEAD/DEAD missions could make it harder to perform them, like for example stacking air defenses in-depth and waiting for the planes to push in deep before ambushing them.
@@oscaranderson5719 makes sense
Plus Ukraine has far more mobile, and thus harder to find and kill systems.
@@alexdunphy3716 yeah manpads are a gamechanger, especially against anything performing CAS.
I’m not too sure how effective they’ve actually been though, it’s hard to get a feel on, well, anything air-related really.
Great info about the unfortunate and horrible situation in Ukraine . Keep up the good work and may the force be with the courageous Ukrainian forces!
No.
I agree! We have 2 labs just south of Ukraine and they are our buffer zone! Unless you want Putin getting his greedy hands on our biological and chemical weapons labs? That and the real reason Putin wants Ukraine is so he can have a straight line to Europe for an oil pipeline!
Wonderful video and explanation. The Wild Weasels part was great to know about, and the no-fly explanation at 12:10 profound.
Thank you for bringing Wild Weasel aircraft to my attention. The fact that this idea is so suicidal that the pilot who was told he'd be the weasel for the first ever WW op said "you've gotta be shitting me" in response to it and it became the motto of Wild Weasel pilots from then on is hilarious
Wild Weasel is also known as Iron Hand (started as Operation Iron Hand during Vietnam). "You ever fly Iron Hand?" "NO! No, I don't let people shoot rockets at me for sport." ~Flight of the Intruder.
YGBSM
@@chrisneumann4202 no that was the A3D job
You know the Japanese had REAL suicide pilots
@@tokumei1282 Yeah, who doesn’t know that
Fact is, despite having way more aircraft, the quality of both sides makes only air parity possible. That coupled with enough manpads to make Kyiv look like Sam City means they won't achieve it.
They could at least missile it to soften the resistance a bit.
@@meferswift Ukrainian air defense based on currently available information is almost entirely based on MANPADS. the only way missile strikes would soften air defenses in any significant way would be if the Russians had a complete disregard for all human life (though they don't seem too far off) and quite literally flattened Kiev and the other major population centers, which require a major expenditure of Russia's already fairly limited cruise missile stocks and make it more likely that the West intervenes in a more direct manner.
@@andrewmoore7022 they were dumb enough to invade, I’m worried they’re dumb enough for that too.
@@andrewmoore7022 Nobody will intervene, why are dreaming for ww3?
@@andreksjour iff ww3 means we take it to moscow i love itt
Top thank you for giving out (suggestions) important/interesting info to the enemy?
2:00 never get old
I doubt they “overestimated” their power so that’s the reason they didn’t use many air attacks. America used air power in the Middle East even though they obviously had a superior ground force. It’s just common sense and prudent to use your Air Force alongside your ground force.
It might be that they expected to take Kiev fast with an fast attack of light forces and that an large initial strike would not be needed in an 3 day war.
It might also be an lack of training taking out air defense systems as the video discus.
Its an common critic that US and NATO focus to much of fighting terrorists making them weak in an conversational war.
And its true same for Russia, but Russia has fought Ukraine before so they should have some experience.
But thats not what he's saying. They sent their airforce to bomb enemy troops instread of doing dedicated SEAD anti-AA missions first. This is because they under estimated ukranian AA.
instead of quickly destroying or stealing Nazi leaders or bomb NATO objects in Ukraine, the army of RF is conducting a ground operation. All superiority in armored vehicles loses all meaning If you get bogged in urban battles; also, the mobilization potential in Ukraine is obviously huge! Strange war...
@@magnemoe1 True. But experience goes both ways. The longer you fight someone, the more they can learn from your actions and mistakes.
@@magnemoe1 But few of these soldiers are still alive. They mostly used cannon fodder in the Donbas war, such as Donbas prisoners, conscripts and mercenaries.
Ukrainian here. My dad is an ex-officer, my mom worked 10 years at a military air base.
What I will tell you about Ukrainian Air Force (from late 90s, early 2000s) probably applies x10 times to Russian Air Force:
1. Lack Training (as you mentioned). This stems from lack of funding (direct), corruption, general disorganization in the military force.
2. Bad Equipment. People are often tasked with fixing their own equipment; buying their own equipment; using partially broken systems.
3. Legacy Methods. I saw people reading manuals that were 20-30 years old. Sometimes more. I mean, we can all appreciate some von clausewitz from time to time but not when we're talking about aviation.
4. Drinking issues.
5. Exhaustion. Either from unrealistic expectations or because pilots would work a second job to make their ends meet.
6. Inexperienced high command. People like generals would have only bureaucratic experience, no war experience in managing real operations.
This is only a portion of stuff. You can add general technical backwardness to this too.
Now Ukraine had a big wake up call in 2014 so we started changing a lot of things. We didn't have enough budget & you cannot modify the whole military/country structure in 8 years but the progress is obvious. Nice work on the vid.
also in russia bein general doesnt mean he has skill in doing so but he knows someone higher up...
Yeah, 4 is a big one. 6 too. I think the only major modern military with multi-generational combat experience is the USA.
Besides that, when you are fighting in DEFENSE of your homeland - you are motivated moreso so the "von clausewitz" is less likely to appear in the defenders when both sides have been trained using the SAME EQUIPMENT. (so you got a fighting chance.) IMHO
30 year old manuals are the best, what you on about
"Some Von Clausewitz from time to time" I laughed at loud. Great comment!
Excellent analysis and discussions.
Educational and helpful. Thanks.
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Finally someone explained this no-fly zone practically and in very simple terms. Thank you.
Except the west could also move it’s Sam units to boarder of Ukraine and do the same thing to the Russians
@Mike Pearce cept Biden CAN'T. We are in end times Biden doesnot have control of military. We have as Kim predicted long ago have 2 Presidents of the United States of America
@@Zabzim We're trying to NOT go to war with Russia - as long as that's true shooting down their planes directly is off the table.
There is another reason why the NATO countries are avoiding placing a no fly zone over Ukraine.
What happens if an aircraft enters the no fly zone and refuses to reverse course? Well, to enforce a no fly zone you have to shoot down (or at least try to) such an aircraft. NATO firing on a Russian aircraft would be essentially a declaration of war. That then brings all NATO countries into the conflict. But NATO has already said they will not get involved in Ukraine with military action …
As for Russia and Belarus - you could tell them to just no shoot into Ukrainian airspace (in theory)... But it's not just that. There is an even worse and more likely scenario in which NATO planes shoot down Russian planes within Ukraine's airspace (there are plenty), with NATO being the one triggering the cascade of aggression.
Russia considers their troops to be more expendable than it’s jets/pilots
History shows this to be true.
“DIMITRI! WE USE TANK THIS TIME!”
“NYET NYET! WE THROW MORE MEN AT IT, SOLVE PROBLEM!”
I mean its much more easier to learn how to shoot a rifle than to learn how to fly a flying chunknof mettal that moves at speeds twice the speed of sound like thats a rule for every millitary the most basic thing are the infantry unfortunatly they are liek the pawns on the chess board, expendable.
Isn't that every military?
That's every military
Pilots are more harder to train so that's excusable (not supporting Russia)
To those than know- does SEAD still work against more modern air defense systems with multiple radars stationed miles apart from both each other and the actual missile launchers? Not to mention how do they defend against multiple missiles, when shaking off one already takes a few years of you?
I’m gonna go with yes and the tactics evolve and change to adapt to the threat.
The us still devotes a lot of effort into having pilots able to do this, they ain’t doing it for fun
The jets have evolved with the times. the F-35 isn’t just stealth, it’s senors and data fusion will make it a beast in any SEAD mission it may end up being tasked with
I do _not_ know, nor am I an expert, but my best guess would be that modern countermeasures now involve heavy amounts of ECW (Electronic Countermeasure Warfare) to blind and confuse the defense systems, while better sensor suites and targeting systems give the attacking aircraft or missiles better target solutions at longer ranges.
If you’re just going with the blitz-type method of Wild Weasels in this day and age, modern systems- especially the mobile ones -are more than likely to smoke you before you can get to them.
The amount of money these companies are making from this war is staggering. Alot are even "no bid contracts" which should be illegal. Opens up way too much temptation for corruption , but that is the way of this world unfortunately.
It seems likely that they are very worried about a nato response and are afraid to deplete strategic material. It becomes the example of how expensive it can be to only partially commit.
Yeah, those munitions are a limited resource. They won't be able to buy advanced microchips due to sanctions and hyperinflation of the ruble. What they have now will meed to last the forseeable future.
There is no strategic material except low yeld nukes. And we don't even know if it still works. Putin somehow believed he would be welcomed as a liberator by Ukraine citizen's. The whole plan was Baltic states, Moldova and Georgia.
of course they are worried about the Nato response. this whole damn war is about Nato fucking around politics they have no business fucking around with. Russia was the first to invade but the war was started by Nato. so yeah they it's pretty obvious that they are worried about the entire reason they are fighting in the first place. also consider this if the world actually gave a fuck about Ukraine and not just their own stupid politics then Ukraine would have already had all the help they needed. now that i actually think about it this could even be because they are just trying to get Russia to spend a bunch of resources and shit before all the other countrys step in. but who knows. politics is impossible to actually understand because no Mather what there's always a hidden agenda
@@rampage3337 I guess according to you Georgia in 2008 was also NATO's fault
@@santivargasf those evil NATO states giving poor Russia no other option than illegally invading Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea, Ukraine.
True underdog story
This makes me appreciate how disciplined and trained the U.S. military and other NATO Allies are. I’m almost all areas like air, land, and sea operations.
Yea people talk shit about teh USA but they are CLEARLY a better/much MUCH more professional army. I just wish the US would just go beat them down. If our country was that good I'd want us to just take them out.
Was not always like that..WW2 it was very good course army and Airforce where one unit, but Korea, Vietnam not as much, better communication and settling of inter forces rivalries and disagreements helped ..
I found hilarious that just a few months ago everyone was praising Russia for its cool war commercials and communists memes, looks like memes and “testosterone” are not enough to move your tanks and planes after all.
@@d.olivergutierrez8690 Indeed. People were going crazy of how good their ads were lmao. But turns out like all their military is just shit.
@@SM-nz9ff that won’t ever play out as long as Russia has nukes. That’s basically their ace in the hole to ensure their survival for forever
Literally LOL'ed with the Wild Weasels' slogan.
Glad to see this videos back
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Its important to note that the US has such a massive military budget in can subsidize all its major allies and that the only real bottleneck when it comes to training and equipment is man power, Russia has an infinitesimal budget in comparison and so the effects of mismanagement or high cost training hits a lot harder.
Thats right, Italy has a higher GDP than Russia.
Its embarassing that they went to war. Besides evil.
Russia sepnds 4.3% of its GDP on defense while the U.S only spends 3.7%. For such a small Economy, Russia really spends a lot of money on its military
Well they might have a large economy if the oligarchs would stop stealing all the goddamn money.
@@FloofyMinari That’s still a very little amount of money, even with how much more purchasing power money has over there. Considering nuclear submarines, missiles, a million soldiers, etc is very thinly spread.
Define subsidization.
So much appreciation for an actual critical analysis of the conflict. Thank you, keep it up!
Its a shame it was bullshit
The Wild Weasel Patch - YGBSM 😄😄
I'm confident that would've been pretty close to my response too!!
Good info Keep it up
Ending the analysis with a Russian minister assuring an irritated Putin is just comedy gold. The whole world is watching what an abysmal failure their "special military operation" has been, I just wish more Russian people had the knowledge of what is going on.
yes yes yes, what else
Sadly with internet backbone companies pulling out it is getting harder to get true information to the Russian people.
Russia is actually playing in ukraine...if russia wants to destroy Ukraine completely they can do it in 1 day...
@@chrisc9769 yes yes yes, they are misinformed already that Putin has destroyed the US, twice, they don't get the correct info, yes
@@commanderaram of course they do not want to destroy the country, irrespective of what western media show, and we know what they show, for example yesterday the were showing Kharkov being levelled, and the city on the video was Beirut, they even forgot that Beirut has a sea and Kharkov is not anywhere near the sea, yes, they make nice video for both idiots to point the finger and for a bit smarter to laugh
Bro, I'm amazed about how well explained you made this video, I didn't expect it. Here on TH-cam it's difficult to find complex analysis about this crisis, most of the content I found were not technically explained.
Or biased
Great video!!!
Finally some answers, that make sense. Thanks
When building your army's ability to deter with lies, you must not make the mistake of believing your own lies.
well said
Wow, what a great saying. I think you have the greatest saying that I have read anywhere. Best wishes to you.
That wisdom could be applied not only to Russia.
Airforce: 200 flight hours per year
Navy: you gotta bump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers right there
Air Guard - double those numbers
Thank you! Greetings from Kyiv!!
Thank you
You make some very good points, all valid. But you miss on very basic point for which the evidence is right there. That is the condition of the equipment. There is no doubt that the ground equipment that the Russians are using is suffering from long term lack of maintains obvious in leaking oil seals destroyed tires and completely abandoned vehicles. Aircraft need 4 or 5 times the maintains of ground equipment and why should they be any different to their army in that respect
You quote the Russians as having 923 multi roll and 467 attack aircraft and I have no doubt of your numbers but even in a well maintained airforce there will be around 20% of the aircraft grounded at any given time and given what we now know about the level of maintains that number is very likely to be much higher and could well be as high as 50%. Put on top of that the fact that Russian pilots get less than half of the training that their equivalent US or NATO pilots would there will be a tendency to give their aircraft a much harder time and that their ground crew will correspondingly less experienced meaning that their combat capable level could easily be as low as 25%. All of a sudden you are talking about 230 Multi roll and 116 attack aircraft capable of actual combat and now you have a completely different picture, one that fits what we are seeing. The fact is that what we thought as one of the strongest militaries in the world is proving to be a house of cards.
☝️This. Although a rough estimate you could very well be right on the money. Also, with sanctions their ability to do any of the needed maintenance will now be even further hindered.
@@fit_man_cam1713 Not only that Russia is considered by many to be one of the most corrupt countries in the world and part of what we are seeing is in part a result of that corruption and yes you are right it is a rough estimate but it is backed with the experience of running a military heavy service workshop.
I'd be surprised if the proportion of aircraft grounded was only 50% given the level of corruption. I'll bet it's higher. Aircraft parts are expensive.
@@S0ulinth3machin3 You ay well be right but one thing is very clear in that the west over estimated their operational strength and ability by quite a margin.
Something tells me that maintenance of their nuclear arsenal takes priority
Well, Russia has partially taken air superioty. This was evident after the 17 kilometer long convoy heading to Kyiv had received little to no air bombardment, and most of the air attacks are from remote controlled drones and small ground missiles
That convoy was stopped and they were forced to spreed out because they were getting bombed
@@lonemaus562 and your view of war is the convoy would have formed a long line to reach kiev?
@@lonemaus562 bombed by artillery and few drones. if the Russians didn't have limited air superiority, then that entire convoy would have been a smoldering wreck by now.
They didnt bomb the convoy because it's low priority. The convoy is out of fuel and food and are slowly dying to the cold. Supply truck going to the convoy are a high priority to the Ukranians and so many of them have been shot down that Russia had to suppliment the modern military supply truck with old soviet trucks. So Ukraine doesnt need to waste time on the convoy when it's needed else where.
I think the Nato term would be favourable air situation, the tier below air superiority.
Excellent review, and good news for the free world!
4:35 DAMN!! that's badass
I love this channel. Great info. I'm appreciative of any insight into this conflict.
USAF has stopped using the Wild Weasel tactics and specific platforms to execute SEAD and DEAD missions. USAF's modern tactical aircraft are almost entirely composed out of multi role platforms which are capable of executing SEAD, anti air and air interdiction missions simultaneously. The only difference is that during the first days of war you would see F-15/16/18/35s loaded with more MALDs and AARMS.
@Dan Cooper NATO SEAD tactics were developed to be used against Soviet/Russian tactics and capabilities in the first place.
This is awesome, I didn't know any of this! Thank you for sharing! Happy New Year 🥳
great explanation!
13:30 Yes! PLEASE keep telling him that!
They do have air superiority, but not air supremacy.
And by (probably) using NATO intel, Ukraine can still fly sorties and deny Russia the air supremacy it desperately needs.
Yes!! as explained to me by an experience NATO F18 pilot "Air Superiority" and "Air Supremacy" is not the same.
Both starts with an S and is used interchangably by the media all the time so it gets mislabeled by everyone
@@GeorgeVenturi how did he explain it?
Nah, we can just call it Slight Air Advantage
I hesitantly clicked on this video and was pleasantly surprised with its quality! Found it very informative and enjoyable to watch... Thank you!
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to Heroes!
I love this channel. The research that this would have required must have been enormous.
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775 missiles and estimating that each can cost 2 million dollars or more so I think from the cost perspective it explains why they are not firing much more of them
Limited sorties of the RU airforce could be because: Lack of pilots (or willing pilots), lack of maintenance which generates lack of readiness, fear of losing pilots, fear of fuel shortage, lack of spare parts, etc...
There are reports from the Ukrainian goverment of Russian pilots ejecting and their parachutes not working: Could be deliberate sabotage by RU so pilots aren't captured (which I think is unlikely as there are pilots which the chute worked) or lack of maintenance..
There are reports of widepread corruption in RU goverment which diversed funds that were supposed to modernize the military forces
Most of the videos and news are based on the assumption Noone really know what the real scenario is.
also looks very possible that decisive point is american MPADS as Stinger. Missiles are expensive, and bombing from over 4000m is very inaccurate, and lower 4k all aircraft can be bring down by Stinger; so there is air domination, but it gives nothing to ground forces
JEEZUS AND HERE I THOUGHT PUTIN WAS TRYING TO BECOME THE NEXT ALEXANDER THE GREAT OR GENGHIS KHAN, NOW HE'S GONNA BE KNOWN AS PUTIN THE BUNKER.
I feel bad for the poor saps whose parachutes malfunctioned, they probably didn't even want to be there anyway and dying from a parachute malfunction after ejecting is probably one of the worst nightmares for a fighter pilot.
@@Sierra-208 Correct. If that information gets back to Russia it is going to seriously errode the confidence of the Russian pilots.
Don’t forget that the Serbians managed to keep some of their SAMs operational against NATO for the whole conflict by using clever tactics.
Yes, allow constant attacks against their military and keeping their systems off. Not the best way to fight a war.
Very convining analysis
The fact a giant convoy was allowed to be that congested and relatively uncontested to the point a supply depot has been setup due west of Kiev...should be the only deciding factor in judging whether or not Russia has dominated the skies.
Yeah, there is a long Convoy heading to Kyiv that can be seen from space yet where is the Ukrainian Airstrikes.
It is quite literally impossible to destroy a 50km or however long that convoy is unless you have complete air supremacy, and yet the artillery and drone strikes still took some pieces of that convoy out. Ukrainians are playing defence right now and trying to stretch and wear out the Russian forces before they could launch counterattacks, which they have started doing recently, freeing up some of the cities/towns/villages that the Russians have initially captured and even pushing Russian troops as far as to the border in some cases. That convoy is mostly dispatched into smaller groups now. Also, the coalition of nations during the Gulf War consisted of some 36 nations fighting a single enemy, while the war in Ukraine is basically Ukrainian army vs Russian army that is being backed by Belarus. Yes, the help from the West helps Ukrainians a lot, but in the end it is a 1v2 fight so obviously it is not going to be as shiny and flashy as during the Gulf War or Iraq.
Nope, it's not because of dominating Ukrainian sky but because of air defense in this column. Ukrainians can't afford heavy attacks from the air on targets like that and risk they limited forces. It's not about Russians having air supremacy or not.
@@SquattingSamurai As pathetic as the Russian military currently seems, they are certain to take Ukraine in the next few days/weeks. Ukraine can't possibly stop the entire Russian military. I just can't imagine Putin's long term plan tho. If every citizen wants him and his regime out, it will become more like the US Iraq war. Russia will just be fighting insurgents for the next few decades until they give up and go home.
@@drengr2759 their occupying forces are already preparing to hold “referendums”, probably to create more breakaway republics. The truth is, Russian economy is due to collapse in a matter of months. Putin never expected such swift and devastating sanctions, and much of their tech is imported. Their own manufacturing industry has been gutted since the 90s by their oligarchs, so they can’t replace what they use up. They might be able to get some more on the black market, but companies will be wary of selling to them since they might get sanctioned for that. And something like 2/3 of their government assets are tied up in other countries and have been frozen by sanctions. Add to that a costly war…
Can you do a video on different types of doctrines
what kind of doctrines do you mean?
I was also amazed by the fact that even after this much time they still didnt have air superiority over a much much weaker airforce and AirDef/SAM system
Maybe we all over estimated the Russian Military
This puts into question what equipment they are selling in exports
Its all western propaganda.
@@parallax9084 lmao?
@@parallax9084 sure bud keep believing what Papa Putin is telling you
Maybe they are purposely making themselves look weak, underestimating the enemy is a big risk.
@@griseld This is my greatest fear. I simply can't wrap my head around how incompetent the russians are being. The Ukrainian defiant struggle is brave and awe-inspiring, but the Russians aren't fighting as well as expected.
Really good video, I was wondering about the air superiority situation. It has asked another question though, surly you have 5 dummy radar systems for each real SAM system? It does not even have to be useless, it could have a basic radar that could even detect aircraft but no weapons and a single crew who would not stay close to the system and maybe have a remote control so could move it into a safer location once it had been targeted. For anti radar missiles I would consider a system that could launch the radar into the air if a missile came close as to avoid the system being destroyed. You may end up needing two or more radars to replace ones launched but I would expect this is already the case. Most likely it's the case just classified. If I was making missile's for DEAD it would be a stealthy, quiet missile that glided about until it found a radar emitter and just dropped a bomb on it and kept going. You would need to equip your own radar systems with something to let them know there not a target but that's got to be easier. I mean just 200 with 4 bombs or missiles could deal with up to 800 SAM sites. Don't need to risk any piolets and it's just cheap and safe. Maybe I should work in this field, I would love to see my latest design fly, it is a plane that has a range of 11020KM one way but can not be shot down by any missile. Sorry can't give more details about that. Doesn't even use stealth either.
"Everything is going to plan" at the end made me laugh how politics work.
Circa 1945: Nuclear weapons invented to end/deter conventional warfare.
2022: Fear of Nuclear War allows conventional warfare to Rage On without international opposition.
Until it's not. Then game over.
The footage of tractors dragging away missile systems and tanks makes me laugh so hard. The Ukrainian people are goddamn hero’s.
I agree. It sums up their spirit of resistance. I get to listen in to a friend in Kyiv's social media. They can't wait for the Russians to make an attack. But that's why Russia is unable to surround Kyiv. The resistance they are meeting there is fierce and the Russian soldiers don't know what their cause is.
Uhh it's not that hard to tow unmanned vehicles.
Saw a video of a guy filming aftermath of a Russian tank thank tank over a car, this one looked like a woman with her head smashed and brain smeared all over the road around her head, I turned off that video 5 seconds in, this shit is enough to make any viewer go insane, one good think TH-cam does is not allow super graphic content.
@@benjaminpadilla1464 The tank that drove over the car that old guy driving it survived.
Some video clips were severely outdated, -did you notice the red hammer-and-sickle flag on one of the tanks? Stock footage, perhaps? Outdated.
This is a classic example of total assets a state possesses versus what it can actually bring to bear on a particular confrontation.
A point Von Claudwitz makes explicitly in "On War". The reality is that unless Russia is prepared to uncover itself elsewhere, and be willing to trust that it won't be attacked elsewhere, it can only employ a tith of its actual strength.
Please keep this vid up so we can see how it ages.
Conclusion: Russia just gave some military stuff to ukrainian farmers as a gift
Russia loves those farmers.
Ironically, many tanks were shipped to the Soviet Union in the 1930s after being labeled as "farm equipment" to get around trade embargoes.
Sounds friendly to me
Putin is just a mastermind. He want to show the world how
Russia suck-ass in any combat situation so NATO would decide there is no danger is such a weak country and dissolve itself.
The best joke of all is that the Ukraine Government has told their people that any tanks (and other equipment) they get hold of does not need to be declared in their tax returns. Funny, but it also subtly points out that Zelinskyy and his Government intend to be around in the future to sort out tax returns next year...
Anyway thanks a lot for the hard working on these amazing videos 👍
Ukraine has a lot of anti air defense systems that can run on optic scanning only or manpads that give almost no notice before impact. This is the first war I think that such vast numbers of these weapons are being deployed.
IIRC, we pushed more manpads to Ukraine in one week than we did to the Mujadeen in ten years.
And these handheld AA systems will bring joy to airports in europe for decades to come... It was such a stupid decision.
@@vendomnu ?
@@TheMan83554
There is a video of the ukrainian nationalists basically saying that they well be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Think of a javelin fired from a residential building at Boeing 737 during take off.
You can't safeguard against that.
I served as an ADA Officer. I cannot understand how you don't conduct SEAD operations in the first stages of a modern war. It will be interesting to read the papers that will come out of this conflict in 10-20 years.
I doubt it will take that long. There may be some channels eve here on TH-cam that offer up hints. In the meantime, I wouldn't assume it's even true given some of the other claims put forward in this video; which I will accept are errors.
I really wish I weren't living through a major historical event RIGHT NOW
Welcome to reality.
Why do people keep saying this
Wake up, it's 2012 and nothing major is happening, let's play counter strike instead.
@@CasperTheGhost64 Over the last 3 years, a ridiculous amount of globally notable events have affected pretty much everyone. Compare that to the last decade, where like 3 things happened.
@@hueghh3775 It's just the West really. The world has been suffering for a long time
wild weasel tactis is a staple in strategy games too. You use one plane to take the damage, and then pull them back before its destroyed and repair them. same goes to starcraft stalker micro.
yep, I use it in Conflict of Nations WW3
what's the point of destroying sam, when the west will supply more once they are destroyed, it's a black hole
Ah yes. Me half the time in warthunder when playing as Germany or USSR
It's probably less fun in real life than in a video game, given that a single hit may kill you.
@@gadaadhoon at least they don't have to deal with players sniping from half across the entire map
All i was thinking when you gave the numbrrs of aircraft, was: "well not anymore"
Your voice is interesting enough to stay awake when I want, but monotone enough for me to fall asleep listening to it
This is a really excellent video with great analysis!
Notice the red Soviet Union flag, not the Russian flag 🇷🇺 on the tank. That says a lot about former Soviet KGB officer now Russian President Vladimir Putin's goals in invading Ukraine.
Or they probably just pulled that tank right out of storage and didn't even bother lol.
@@kars372 that's a T72B3 russia tank upgrade with new toys from 2014 so wdym
@@hecunotmakingalogisquad5785 I said probably pulled that tank right out of storage, if what you said is true then dope, unfortunately I don't know.much about tanks to tell. Soviet Flag still is cool to me.
They are trolling Ukranians, because UA hates SSSR
dude.... his country is being surrounded by troops missiles weapons in a preparation of most likely the invasion of Russia or at least the bullying of Russia to fall in line or get exterminated. this war started not because of Putin but because of the fact that Nato and EU are trying to place a bunch of troops and fancy weapons next to the Russian border. this war is about defense of Russian borders and has ben for a long while. this aint nothing new. remember the cold war? yeah remember that little country called Cuba and how there was a cuban missile crisis. yeah this is the exact same thing happening.
Nice presentation
Not all SEAD missions involve Wild Weasels. I don’t know but I would imagine most do not nowadays with IMINT and ELINT aircraft able to pinpoint SAM locations
Good video. I don't think most people realize that a no fly zone would require attacks on Russian or Belarusian soil. I know I hadn't thought of that, and I consider myself very well informed.
A simple compromise would be to give the Ukrainian forces multiple type of sam batteries, and also to train them in their use (obviously if these were from local eastern european countries then the likelyhood is that its more likely they will not require training, this would assist in closing off the airspace without NATO aircraft being used (Although I would ship as many aircraft as possible to neighbouring countries because if Ukraine were to fall, they are not going to stop)... Id also permit a HUGE loan from the central european bank to assist in defending Ukraine, and the promise of another to assist in the re-building after the russian forces are dispatched.. we in the west seem to be terrified of putin, no point really as we are going to have to deal with this criminal regime eventually, I'd rather do it before more Ukrainians are slaughtered...
@@johnward2488 agreed. Although training may be a bigger hang up than we realize. And we're probably not going to hear about it, but American UAV's flown by American pilots could be a big help. We'd have plausible deniability because the Russians would never know who were flying them or even where the pilots were.
A no fly zone wouldn't "REQUIRE" attacks on Russian or Belarusian soil - but it wouldn't work very well without it. The U.S. has fought wars in the past where there were invisible lines in the air which they could not cross and had to watch as enemy aircraft flew in when it suited them and skip right out again whenever they wanted to break contact. "Limited" is no way to fight a war, which is why WW2 had everyone pulling out all the stops and why most wars conducted by the west since have been such fiascoes. Russia is learning that lesson now as they try to bend Ukraine to their will rather than conquering them outright. They've already lost as far as I'm concerned, but their ego won't let them just give in, so Ukraine must now suffer so Putin can attempt to save face. Pathetic wretch that his is.
Look at the 70-something day NFZ operations against Serbia, and multiply that by 10 to get an idea of what might go into SEAD/DEAD operations against Russia if we were to try and establish a NFZ.
@@JohnLoMonaco that's entirely possible, I imagine that number could go up too, but it is totally within our capabilites, and to be fair every russian aircraft destroyed is one less that will be holding Europe at risk, I have no doubt putin is trying to return to the ussr days, we either give Ukraine the ability to stop him or we will have to do it after he manages to starve them out..
We thought Russia was a superpower but that isn’t true anymore, they are more about numbers then combat effectiveness and survivability rates
Morale of the troops counts.
that's what im thinking too
Their breathtaking incompetence in this war makes me question whether Russia/the USSR was EVER a superpower.
Russia has been third world shithole since forever, its not great leap to assume that the military is at same level. Russians are just pretty skilled with propaganda. Smoke and mirrors.
@@haxney
Russia (USSR not included) was never a superpower to begin with.
Nice analysis
Exactly the look of that Weasel in the logo. You Gotta Be Shitting Me.
A year ago, the Russian military was so damn feared and respected. It obviously inherited that reputation from the USSR, but it's been so long since they fought anything tougher than third-world rebels, it hasn't been so obvious that their military is just as rotten as their government.
It's now crystal clear that the only scary thing about Russia is their nukes. Given their commitment to maintenance and procedure, I seriously doubt all or even most of them are functional. But only a dozen or so need to function to ruin the world.
Russia has used about 15 percent of its military might on Ukraine so far dont kid yourself
@@MICHAEL-wg2lh Sure mate, any day now the real show will start. 🙄
I would assume that Russian submarines get the best of the best, but every assumption has been wrong so far. I wouldn't be surprised if the USA knows where every single Russian sub is and has had constant torpedo lock since Feb 24th
@@nommchompsky given the reportedly horrible condition of Russian subs I doubt even they get "the best of the best". Their entire joke of a military is on full display for the world to laugh at
@@nommchompsky The crew of the kursk tells otherwise, they even needed the British and Norwegians to find the sub.
No other videos I have watched about enforcing a no fly zone have mentioned that NATO would need to attack Russian air defence systems inside Russia! It is a very good point and is another reason it makes it completely unworkable.
0:33 That's about the same number of aircraft as Singapore's air force I estimate
Love the final 3 seconds, showing the nature of a corrupt regime.
also valuable point is that we got a lot of trophy war machines including antiair. that means our antiair is getting even stronger
Ive always loved the History channel grade arguements about a potential clash between neer peer forces. Even in its current ... state... the US armed forces are hugely superior to any in terms of training, research, doctrine, officers, logistics and personnel. Comparing numbers of printed figures and force strength assessments have always been a poor indicator of reality.
I know right? Who would have thought that a bunch farmers with AK-47s would have sent the US out on their ass.
@@danielkrcmar5395 anybody who has ever studied insurgencies would have thought it.
@@danielkrcmar5395
And don't forget those Afghan goat herders who also sent the US out on their ass.
@@JB-yb4wn tbf those afghans kicked everyone's ass that came there
Im guessing you mean Vietnam? I'd half agree. Unfortunately the tradition of excellent generalship within the armed forces didn't rub off on Westmoreland. Operationally though, the USA endured about 58,000 KIA, while the North Vietnamese lost nearly 1 million.
The Wild Weasels. Balls of steel 😀😀
The heavy use of MANPADS makes things kinda tough. It’s not a large group of vehicles, or even a single vehicle. It’s a dude with a missile. And there’s lots of em.
It's said, that the problems the ground units of the Russian Military such as bad tires, poor maintenance, and overall lack of supplies...Extends to the air force. Also communications between the ground and air assets, and the experience that kind of training is almost non-existent. And all of that...adds up fast, faster in war.
Proof?
Everyone saying, but no-one can show proofs
It''s going on as I expected. Don't forget there military budget is still very limited.
In recent years they have indeed developed and produced some very impressive weapons, but mainly for defence and for heavy strikes vs American military bases and especially aircraft carriers, formidable missiles and platforms like nuclear powered submarines. Pretty useless stuff for invading a country.
There obviously was no plan for entering Ukraine - otherwise they would have produced their T-14 tank in greater numbers.
I've been waiting for an onslaught from the Russian airforce. But it looks like it's not going to happen.
I guess you’re limited to state ran Russian media. It’s all rainbow colours, right?
Nice video. Russia also does not use advanced computerized simulations which train pilots to operate in complex situations. They also lack an equivalent to U.S. joint terminal attack controllers (JTACs) and Special Operations Command Combat Controllers to coordinate larger strike packages.
Seeing how badly their command, communications, and control have been degraded probably explains some of these failures.
Anybody know where 8:52 clip comes from? (black/grey/white fighter)
Thanks for the video I was wondering why the Russian airforce was slacking, I just thought they were saving their good planes and using the old ones, never thought of this!
The whole equipment they use is from the 80's it looks like, their tanks, trucks, helicopters, troops, rifles etc looks like early 80's. It's obvious they are saving their best equipment
@@restlessactivity8696 Using old equipment isn't a bad thing as long as it is well maintained and gets modernized from time to time. Most of the gear that the west uses is also stuff from the late cold war era. A good example being the the M2 browning. This heavy machine gun is 100 years old and still gets used in almost every western military.
@@restlessactivity8696 i’m starting to think new equipment might all not truely be ready/good/useable for some reason
Although a valid point, SEAD is really not effective against manpads and I think most of Russian aircraft losses lately are due to manpads rather than the large TEL type SAMs.
Manpads don’t shoot as high as SAMs and the SAMs are keeping the planes low
No, its defence in depth. Its the Ukranian longer range fixed installations that are forcing the Russian bombing aircraft missions to fly lower and therefore into the range of manpads.
Helicopters are a different matter as they will always fly lower, but even they are effectively in the same situation as they are being used in an odd way.
They should be used to support mechanised infantry close to the front, but hlicopters seem to be used here as a replacement for bombing missions far from the combat front line and into heavily contested space (because the Russians are not committing high flier bombers... because of Ukranian SAMS, etc)
@@shambhangal438 I also watched somewhere that the Russians lack of Precision Guided Munitions are forcing their aircraft to fly lower to hit their targets. It can't be the Ukrainians use of SAM (fixed or mobile) as I haven't really seen any from their side in any of the videos shown so far. Doesn't mean they don't exist just that they could be a rare sight. In fact I see more Russian SAMs stuck in the mud and/or abandoned than Ukrainian ones.
@@TheF22a Yeah but the russians are flying low,your point?
@@shambhangal438 Those are largely destroyed by now
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I think I just saw the numbers drop as I was watching the counts!!!
Judging from captured soldiers and those stranded due to lack of fuel, they expected a lot less resistance, to be hailed as liberators and Kyiv to fall in under 48 hours, 72 max.
Things did not go that way.
Maybe they did not expect to be hailed as liberators but it seems that they planned for a largely unopposed occupation.
They never even tried to or planned to invade and occupy Kiev. They sent a small force north of Kiev to pin the Ukrainian units in the city, so that those forces could move to where the Russians were intent on assaulting and maneuvering through. Try to keep up, this stuff isn't hard to grasp if you're not getting your brain fried by legacy western media.
@@asnark7115 If that were remotely true, they would not have dropped those troops on Hostomel like that. Only reason for that is to take it and fly in troops and supplies to siege Kyiv. Expecting it to fall mostly if not completely unopposed, really fast.
Not with the goal of taking the whole place, just the seat of government, get any demand you want no problem. Easy end to the war.
Meanwhile ukrainian AA vehicles are increasing thanks to russian donations
Russia is really generous giving equipment to ukraine to help fight russia.
How usable is the equipment that is left behind? In most of the videos it looks like it's been completely neglected and been there for ages. Almost like a booby trap that will malfunction whenever it's used.
Ungrateful Ukrainians are angrily complaining about quality of tires ;)
@@bigpal8games Russian army are weak now
Finally no fly zone scene explained well, don't get it's technicality until now..
great content. big issue explained .NFZ... etc, friendly fire SAM problem, besides NATO/RU direct combat trigger issue , air to air and Surface to air etc
There is a youtube channel called "The Operations Room" and they do videos on how modern battles went down, and their series on Desert Storm shows just how beautifully the US led coalition took air superiority in the first few days of combat. True air power is insane and Russia does not have that.
Bro Iraq didnt have 50 countries arming it. IF it wasn't for the foreign arms supplies Ukraine would have surrendered in the first week. I think Russia did a lot better in Ukraine that the US coalition did in Iraq considering the amount of civilian deaths US caused there.
@@dracoboomin6511 Hes right and you are mistaken.,. The US and allies caused almost no civilian deaths in Iraq also they lost less of their own troops. Russia is actively targeting civilians now, that's something the US and allies never did. The civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by Iran's proxies and Islamic extremists. Most normal Iraquis were very happy to see the end of Saddam and his evil sons.
Ukraine certainly doesnt have 50 countries arming it. There are a couple of dozen sending defensive small easy to use weapons only. If the west actually did arm Ukraine they would be sending b2 bombers, f35s, eurofighters, aircraft carrriers, apaches, abrams, tanks etc And can you imagine what this stuff would have done to the Russians!!!
@@jonathanbowen3640 erm..bro...USAAF literally bombed a civilian air raid shelter killing over 400 men women and children taking cover there in Iraq war in baghdad. 1993.
RAF dropped over 500 clusterbombs on yugoslavian civilians during the war 1999. and in the same war USA bombed a convy of albanian refugees killing over 70 and injuring dozens.
the war in ukraine would be over by now if not for US/Israeli and western arms being sent there and officers from said nations training ukranians how to use them.
western statemen want this to be a long and horrible war because they do not care about civlians at all.
@@Oscar-ds2vb 1993 is a long time ago dude! 400is an exaggeration anyway. 400over 30years isnt too bad
@@dracoboomin6511 nothing you said was true.
The "50 countries" happened affer the invasion and it takes a loooong time to send equipment and train people to use them.