Fun fact about all the cars in the movie. Several manufacturers (Nissan and Infinity I know for sure) were sponsors for this movie. I guess having their cars being animated into it was a form of product placement.
And that scene at the hospital was a giant tribute to the same scene, with the same kids, owned by government, in the original manga! Also, overweight major with sexbots was from original manga! I loved it!
I don't think that's what happens at the end. It's not a copy of the original ending, it's actually a reversal of that; it's about Motoko spawning another conscience through her interactions with the net (whereas the original ending was about a fusion with the Puppetmaster). The Puppeteer is not a computer program that acquires self-awareness. The movie is deliberately trying to set parallels with the original movie to prepare for that ending, and I think they were very clever in that regard, although I agree that they went a bit overboard sometimes and it's far from a perfect movie overall.
How does she know that's HER shell she walks by in the elevator. For someone who apparently HATES that they reference the first film, you forget the scene wherein she sees another person with HER body!
The Top Gear clip was genius and has layers. Not only because his car was stolen, but also because the car Jeremy was talking about in the clip _was also a Ford GT._
Hey, Scott Pilgrim didn't cling to dear life to the source material. They wrote the finale of the film BEFORE the author even wrote the final volume, and both he and the screenwriter deliberately didn't inform each other about how they'd conclude their respective entries! And they left out a HUGE subplot! XD
To answer why Togusa went unconcious. Simply put, concussion. A revolver THAT close, with THAT heavy of a caliber is gonna rattle your brain something fierce.
I can almost FEEL the director and the writers being on separate pages for the upcoming movie. The director obviously has love for this world and has painstakingly recreated it (questionable casting aside) while the writers saw that GITS is about a person in a robot body and decided to rewrite robocop. Ugh.
I know I’m replying to a 6 year old comment, but still: Agreed. Except with the “questionable casting” thing. I think the cast is quite good as usual. But I definitely see where you’re coming from about the director and writers feeling like they’re not on the same page.
Loki and Konan are the names the Tachikoma have called themselves. As well as Max and Musashi, referenced later. Its a reference to the second Ghost in the Shell Manga, as its the name of the AI that appear every now and then.
Okay everyone confused over how Togusa was hacked, THIS is for you. In the series Togusa had a cyberbrain meaning he could always be hacked. However that was it. THIS is something The Major and the other members of Section 9 made fun of him for... along with the fact that he packed a revolver instead of an automatic supposedly for reliability. However the fact is his choice was entirely sentimental, much like his choosing to remain natural other than his cyberbrain augmentation. However inbetween Second Gig he cast aside his sentimentality and went full cyborg (full body prosthesis). This is hinted at by the change in hair color. Motoko/The Major even comments on this fact in the movie by complimenting him on the fact that he gone full cyborg and switched to an automatic.
28:30 -- Sage, this "boy" is not a boy. It's the "Little Motoko"-body from the end of the first season of SAC. And it's neither Loki nor Conan running it, but Motoko herself, the entire time. Loki and Conan are Tachikomas working in the network side of things, they're not physically present. And Motoko is indeed able to consciously only control two bodies at the same time, but the Puppeteer-body is moving on its own accord without her knowledge, thus keeping everything consistent, albeit confusing. She doesn't freak out over this because she doesn't know that this body is one of hers, as it's technically not -- it belongs to the designer who died two years prior. The Puppeteer is holding fort in Motoko's base of operations, but is so great a hacker that even she's not aware of it.
I still really like this movie despite the myriad of flaws pointed out. It's still Ghost in the Shell and, though I admittedly haven't seen the newer stuff, that's a franchise that has yet to show me anything really truly bad. There were a lot of things the review pointed out to me that I missed, but there's one tiny little thing I wanted to mention: When you brought up the scene where Motoko mentions how many prosthetic bodies she can control, the impression I got was that Loki and Conan weren't two of them (after all why would she need to tell herself something) but rather two of the Tachikomas. Part of the point of the main series after all was that they had achieved individuality, so naming them seems like an obvious next step. She also refers to one as Musashi during the ending raid on the hospital. So yeah, admittedly not enough to balance out a lot of the bad, but I felt it worth mentioning.
It was a good season/series but it was during a time where us as people were sick and tired of politics and it nearly shoved it down our throats at the time. Now that feeling is lesson as more and more people are watching it. Hell it's on Toonami already.
I find the 1st gig had a better mystery and antagonist but 2nd gig had better action and drama (and Gouda even gets taken down a peg by Sec 9 with his overly elaborate but heavy handed planning).
@@TedShatner10 plus he was a much better villain than most sci-fi ones. He was incredibly conniving and malevolent without being cartoons. Considering he wanted to start ww4
2nd GIG is still pretty good but for me at least, the main story is harder to follow than the Laughing Man plot (not that it's bad), and it's heavy with politics. At the same time, the "Stand Alone" episodes in 2ng GIG generally weren't as strong as the ones in the first season (but there were still a couple good ones, like Saito's backstory and the one taking place in Germany).
The only thing I can think of is that the puppeteer was controlling this shell that looked like him, and had some form of filter or hack in place to keep the Major from doing much to notice, or that that he has an autonomous program that can run basic functions and social interactions when all that's needed is a body in place somewhere, and not active investigation. For instance, we know that there's all manner of android that also populate hte GitS world, and some of these have very relatable and humanlike characteristics that help them blend into their given role, so it's not far fetched to believe that if Makoto can somehow have a giant body storage and dive complex, that she could also have access to basic AI for hte purpose of slipping some of her shells into places where direct intervention may not be needed, with the option to sync with them later to gain possible intel. WHat could have surprised her is that one of her shells was possessed by the puppeteer program at that point in the story.
the ford gt thing gets me because technically it's IS less standout then what batou canonically drives which is a lotus esprit which not only being more noticeable it's also most likely a second or third gen which means it's more expensive.
13:00 -- Amusingly, psychics do exist in the GitS-universe, at least in the original manga. Its sequel, Man-Machine Interface features a psychic side character who occasionally projects herself to the Major's daughter's head without using cybernetics.
At the time, it was the best looking cg anime had to offer. Sure it doesn't look as good or impressive now, but they looked amazing when the movie first released.
Some of the car scenes were brand integration with Nissan. In the scene where Togusa arrives in the black SUV, you might notice the Infiniti badge I'm the grille, with a license plate 3923 (San Kyu Ni San). In later scenes, Togusa can be seen driving a white hatchback that resembles the final design of the first generation Nissan Versa. So they may not have been necessary, but there was a reason why they existed.
Actually it makes sense, the puppetmaster must've still have some connection to the body when the major took it and the puppetmaster manipulated the major into not being fully aware of its autonomy. Think of it as like a shadow following the main character everywhere she went with her not being fully aware of it the whole time. So why do all this? I think that the a I wanted to measure an aspect of humanity and used Motoko as the measuring stick
The funny thing about togusa's hack scene, is That he didn't have to shoot himself at all. He could have just discharged his weapon, and he would have been immediately arrested. No more doctor's appointment, and his friends would have shown up to bail him out.
Remember how long he has been a part of the show, he hosted the second episode after all. How many combined hours of his life has he spent hanging around just off camera waiting for any chance to pipe in and say something. How many days worth of time has had him standing there?
Or you could think about it in reverse - that Suave only appears when he's hanging around (there's a lot of episodes without him). As a useless, bathrobe-wearing, mom's-basement-dwelling man-child, it's quite logical that he'd hang around Sage quite a bit. He's got nothing better to do ^_^
It seems like the identity of the Puppeteer would have been smarter/easier to understand if it took a bit from Holokara from AT4W, an A.I. based on the hero (Motoko) that diverged and became someone else entirely but one the viewer could see was possible for her to become. That was one of the best bits of acting I saw from Lewis, where he admitted he could easily have become that angry and bitter if he hadn't changed what he was doing.
Oh hey, I didn't realize they Hobbit-style turned opening chapter of a manga, kidnapped children working for the government, into entire movie. Thank you for amazing episode, Sage
Aaaaaaaah finally wer're back to the natural non-over saturated hyper uber HDR lightning, thank the mother modem! For the last year or so my eyes have been bleeding everytime I've watched anime abandon but at last i can enjoy it without severe eye trauma!
Thank you for going back to is intro. The other one I hated because it didn't look right. Felt something out of a middle school film project gone wrong.
I feel like me and Bennett are not on the same page with this, no wait, not even the same book. I mean really, the less said about season 2 the better, what does that mean.
Yeah I know what you mean, apart from that *_ONE_* episode, I've always thought 2nd Gig had a stronger overarching narrative with the Individual 11 case than what 1st Gig had with the Laughing Man phenomenon. That said I'm sure he has his reasons, since I did find myself agreeing with him on the climax of Solid State Society despite having a higher opinion of it overall.
Episode 2 of 2nd Gig, "Night Cruise". That's the one set from the perspective of the war veteran turned helicopter pilot's delusional, withdrawn mind. It was entirely pointless (something that even Section 9 laments), had no deeper message to share, didn't further the overall plot and was honestly boring to watch. Stand Alone Complex is above making such superfluous fluff, so how this episode got greenlit is beyond my comprehension 😕.
First time I saw this movie and the car shots I immediately discerned they are for product placements, you can clearly see Infinity, Nissan, Ford and Porshe cars and/or logos.
I know this is 3 years old and I'm not expecting a response, it just annoyed me enough to comment. Sponsorships aside, the car scenes are either plot relevant, character quirks, or to avoid messy jump cuts that make it look like Togusa lives next door to both wherever he was when he got the call his daughter was missing and the cyberbrain hospital. Also, it's just easier visually to establish where characters are and how many will be in subsequent scenes. The scene with Batou and barely important sniper guy following Raj Putah was plot relevant because it established the setting for the final confrontation as the story threads were tying up in the background. Batou in Aramaki's car is an established character interaction between them, made all the more "special" because I believe Mokoto used to do it too until Aramaki got cyberbrain implants. The scenes with Batou commenting on the expensive car in the hospital lot IS a little clunky if only because it shouldn't be weird to see an expensive car in the staff lot of a hospital, honestly it was weirder that the place was CLOSED, but it did clue the character in that this female cyborg isn't just using a similar model. Her taking his car after establishes that the body of the assemblyman is HER before the big reveal and she's forgotten selectively how many bodies she has on tap, not just her neighbor using a body charging port.
i really enjoyed this movie but this is a completely fair and justified review of it. plus sages seizure was priceless... and perfect use of top gear =D
Wait, wasn't it established in the first movie that Togusa didn't have a cybernetic brain that could be Ghost-hacked? Wasn't that the entire reason the Major brought him onto her team in GitS?
You know, I genuinely like Dark Hero and the Speed Racer adaptation. If you ever revisit something, I think it would be so cool to see a Sage and Egoraptor crossover where you have a hilarious feud over Speed Racer. Since I've already mentioned Dark Hero, I'd love to see just about any reviewer do a crossover with David Hayter focusing on Dark Hero. I dunno how he feels about it as a film, but I'm sure he'd have some excellent reactions to his own performance.
Well... given that he made a TH-cam channel to upload a video celebrating MGS's 20th anniversary and named it "GuyverSnake" I'd say he's rather proud of that fact.
Are you absolutely right about the cars being unnecessary bits of technofetishism? Yes; but as a car guy anime lover, it’s another aspect of Ghost in the Shell that I love
SAC there is a brief line in one of the early episodes where the major says he has a slight brain augmentation. part of the reason why he can use cybercoms and jack into things
If it had been multiple movies, it would have been unforgivable to change things as much as they did. As a stand alone movie? If they hadn't changed things, it would have been too long and probably unwatchable. The movie is amazing and does a really good job of creating a concise adaptation of the source material. Would it have been better as a mini-series? Maybe. WIll we ever find out? Probably not. There just isn't enough of a fan base (or interest, as the box office of the movie shows) to warrant it. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is my favorite movie and it is one of the only times I saw a trailer and not only did I want to see it immediately, every friend I was at the theater with wanted to as well. The movie did not disappoint and it got me interested in the comic that preceded it, so win/win. Plus that sweet video game.
I actually liked the Scott Pilgrim film... but then I haven't read the comic. Though I really would have been interested in a Scott Pilgrim TV series... though I probably would have been more interested if it had been transplanted from Canada to the UK (somewhere other than London, like Glasgow, Cardiff or Newcastle, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol, Plymouth... anywhere but that fuckin' London!)
1:00 I kinda liked Guyver 1 & 2. 23:55 And after hearing all that, I've gone cross-eyed. While the sniper duel and gunfights were exciting, and that bit with Togusa and his daughter harrowing (which also tells me Motoko and Batou are her honorary Cool Aunt and Fun Uncle), yeah, there's a lot going on here that doesn't make much sense.
14:16 "Well, I can't complain about the nurse uniforms here." I felt compelled to watch this one on 2/3/2024, the date (according to SAC) of The Laughing Man Incident.
Look, sage, I love you man, but this review was really really bad. Everything you complain about are either massively minor nitpicks that no-one NO-ONE would care about, something that's part of the whole reason anime fans like this series/this movie in particular, or stuff that is really not worth talking about, like the cars thing. I do love this movie, but I'm almost always willing to admit the failings of even something I like, including in this case. I will totally admit solid state society has flaws, but almost none of them are ANYTHING you mentioned in this review.
Uhh no I think my points are actually pretty legitimate. Like I said, I never claimed Solid State was anything close to perfect, I just don't see the things he brought up specifically as actual flaws. Sometimes people try to read into stuff specifically to find things that aren't there and that's what I feel like he's doing. I feel that Solid State has some quite flat dialogue, the art style and colour palette isn't as vibrant and interesting to look at as the other gits movies and series and the audio mixing is kind of inconsistent. I do, however, think most of the complaints about the actual plot and flow of the anime are unjustified, especially the Togusa fake out. Sure it would be interesting to go the direction he suggested, but the fact that they didn't go in that direction is just as important as the fact they could have.
FrankFerret that doesn't mean he's trying to find bad things about it. he would've preferred something different and considering how stupidly that scene was handled I don't blame him for saying that. and I'm just gonna say this, the only time I've ever seen people who try to find reasons to hate something are trolls like Gligar13vids that only exist to piss off fans of the games he talks about. No one legitimately tries to do that.
557deadpool no... he's just leaving out/misrepresenting key plot points the entire movie hinges on, in order to create plot holes in order to bash the movie with while using a double standard in order to bash this movie for doing the exact same things the previous Ghost in the Shell movies did.
@@557deadpool Sage is a goddamned moron who doesn't get even the basic plot points of GITS. Rewatching the movie and a TVtropes search to prove I wasn't alone in my interpretation only serves to prove that Bennet can't handle anything that doesn't hold you by the hand.
For 2nd Gig the Major saved one of their brains and their original creator was able to rebuild their AI ghosts and for Solid State Society the Tachikoma had backed up their consciousnesses to the net before they destroyed their own satellite. In a sense the originals died and the clones got revived (similar to how things worked in Soma if you've ever played that).
I don't know, but this series has a really good soundtrack. The song you mention sounds like Stamina Rose from the first episode of SAC, and it's even used in a similar context.
The entire premise of ghost in the Shell comes down to the simple question, what does it mean to be human? But another way to look at it is the question, who is Motoko Kusanagi? Because she is the embodiment of the question of what it means to be human. No matter what the continuity as a child she had everything taken away from her including her own body and consequently, became one of the first cyborgs. Not just any cyborg, but one that is over 90% mechanical. She is a observer of the human race who constantly asked the question, when any part of your body can be replaced with machinery, when the human brain can be mimicked by computer, when your memories and sense of self to be altered with a press of a button, what does it mean to be a human? What is the nature of oneself or the soul? Can such a thing be quantifiable? Reason why people love her is because while she is an embodiment of the question, she is also the answer. An answer that comes in the form of her actions. She lives in a world that is constantly on the edge of war, a place where one could easily sell their humanity for convenience, a place where one can lose one's sense of self and have everything about them altered in the instant. So what does she do? She may think of herself as a cold-blooded killer or somebody does completely detached from humanity. But it couldn't be followed from the truth. The simple reason why she keeps fighting is because she can't turn away from a situation that's going south. It was a court law is so she will be willingly become a criminal to bring them to justice. If she sees a child being harmed she will endanger our own life to save it. Think of the most iconic scene in all of the movie, when the puppet master was running amuck in the only way to stop it was behind a impossible to open door she proceeded to use everything she had to try to ter the door open to a point of destroying her own body. Why would she do this? For knowledge? For power? Or was it just just stop a weapon of war from harming innocent people? Reason why people love her so much is because despite how mechanical she is in body, she is very human spirit. For all the strengths and weaknesses that come with it.
Damn, that's pretty sad for this movie. I was hoping this would be something, but it's pointless. Can't wait for April! First NC, Suede w/ Linkara and JewWario (god rest his soul), and now you? Sweet. Can't wait for your take on Pokemon.
Hmm, hope you will not end up reviewing the first pokemon movie by 'adult' standards as frankly put, that movie was really meant for kids. Back then there were no big groups of adult fans, now there are as those are the kids from then grown up.
Higher standard is not the same as looking at it with adult values. But yes, I agree, kids shows should hold up to better scrutiny then even adult shows.
Well the original Japanese was created with both children _and_ adults in mind (Takeshi Shudo cared about it that much), so technically, if you review that copy, it can be reviewed by adult standards. 4KIDS only kept maybe one of those original mature points in the film when it came to Mewtwo, but watered it down with the character. (Had Kids WB allowed them to keep in the first ten minutes with Amber-two, it might've helped the dub a little bit.)
even for kids there are still some pretty ridiculous things in this movie.....like team rocket dressing up as vikings and the comment about vikings living in minnesota.
Eucep the "meant for kids" excuse is total garbage. I'm sick of people using that excuse when we have shows like Avatar The Last Airbender, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Legend of Korra, Gravity Falls and the films from Pixar animation studios and Studio Ghibli prove you can make animation that appeals to all ages. This age old excuse has been used to lazily justify shoddy writing by people who can't admit they just aren't very good writers. Pokemon has proven that it can be something so much deeper with stuff like the Adventures manga, Origins and Generations. But they never try and just stick with Ash and never evolve him as a character using him simply to promote the games and not giving a single flying fuck about him or any character in the anime.
Who watches Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex on Adult Swim on Saturday nights at 3 AM? ME!
I remember when it used to come on at 12:30 am on Saturday nights.
This is the life, congratulations
Fun fact about all the cars in the movie. Several manufacturers (Nissan and Infinity I know for sure) were sponsors for this movie. I guess having their cars being animated into it was a form of product placement.
Actually it's just Nissan who sponsored this movie. Infinity is owned by Nissan, kinda this Lexus is owned by Toyota
24:36 "Which means the Tachikomas are back! ... I'm sure someone is excited."
And that someone is me. ' w'
And that scene at the hospital was a giant tribute to the same scene, with the same kids, owned by government, in the original manga!
Also, overweight major with sexbots was from original manga! I loved it!
...if your serious...
*Then how'd you emotionally fare with the End of Season 1 of Stand Alone Complex lol?*
@@KOTYAR0oh, that's my comment from 2020. Jesus Christ
I don't think that's what happens at the end. It's not a copy of the original ending, it's actually a reversal of that; it's about Motoko spawning another conscience through her interactions with the net (whereas the original ending was about a fusion with the Puppetmaster). The Puppeteer is not a computer program that acquires self-awareness.
The movie is deliberately trying to set parallels with the original movie to prepare for that ending, and I think they were very clever in that regard, although I agree that they went a bit overboard sometimes and it's far from a perfect movie overall.
I could listen to batou give exposition all day. His voice is just too relaxing!
How does she know that's HER shell she walks by in the elevator. For someone who apparently HATES that they reference the first film, you forget the scene wherein she sees another person with HER body!
All things considered, this film had great music
The Top Gear clip was genius and has layers. Not only because his car was stolen, but also because the car Jeremy was talking about in the clip _was also a Ford GT._
Hey, Scott Pilgrim didn't cling to dear life to the source material. They wrote the finale of the film BEFORE the author even wrote the final volume, and both he and the screenwriter deliberately didn't inform each other about how they'd conclude their respective entries! And they left out a HUGE subplot! XD
To answer why Togusa went unconcious. Simply put, concussion. A revolver THAT close, with THAT heavy of a caliber is gonna rattle your brain something fierce.
Hey, at least Batou's epic jump didn't end with him landing in the driver's seat of a convertible and speeding off.
Motoco didn't notice the Puppeteer because he obfuscated himself. The whole reason she went rogue is because the Puppeteer got inside her head.
I can almost FEEL the director and the writers being on separate pages for the upcoming movie. The director obviously has love for this world and has painstakingly recreated it (questionable casting aside) while the writers saw that GITS is about a person in a robot body and decided to rewrite robocop. Ugh.
I know I’m replying to a 6 year old comment, but still: Agreed. Except with the “questionable casting” thing. I think the cast is quite good as usual. But I definitely see where you’re coming from about the director and writers feeling like they’re not on the same page.
@@cloudstrife4534 I agree, Takeshi Kitano KILLED as Aramaki in that movie. I would love to see him in it again, but alas
Loki and Konan are the names the Tachikoma have called themselves. As well as Max and Musashi, referenced later. Its a reference to the second Ghost in the Shell Manga, as its the name of the AI that appear every now and then.
Thank you very much, and I thought I knew everything to know about Gits manga
Okay everyone confused over how Togusa was hacked, THIS is for you. In the series Togusa had a cyberbrain meaning he could always be hacked. However that was it. THIS is something The Major and the other members of Section 9 made fun of him for... along with the fact that he packed a revolver instead of an automatic supposedly for reliability. However the fact is his choice was entirely sentimental, much like his choosing to remain natural other than his cyberbrain augmentation. However inbetween Second Gig he cast aside his sentimentality and went full cyborg (full body prosthesis). This is hinted at by the change in hair color. Motoko/The Major even comments on this fact in the movie by complimenting him on the fact that he gone full cyborg and switched to an automatic.
28:30 -- Sage, this "boy" is not a boy. It's the "Little Motoko"-body from the end of the first season of SAC. And it's neither Loki nor Conan running it, but Motoko herself, the entire time. Loki and Conan are Tachikomas working in the network side of things, they're not physically present. And Motoko is indeed able to consciously only control two bodies at the same time, but the Puppeteer-body is moving on its own accord without her knowledge, thus keeping everything consistent, albeit confusing. She doesn't freak out over this because she doesn't know that this body is one of hers, as it's technically not -- it belongs to the designer who died two years prior. The Puppeteer is holding fort in Motoko's base of operations, but is so great a hacker that even she's not aware of it.
I still really like this movie despite the myriad of flaws pointed out. It's still Ghost in the Shell and, though I admittedly haven't seen the newer stuff, that's a franchise that has yet to show me anything really truly bad. There were a lot of things the review pointed out to me that I missed, but there's one tiny little thing I wanted to mention:
When you brought up the scene where Motoko mentions how many prosthetic bodies she can control, the impression I got was that Loki and Conan weren't two of them (after all why would she need to tell herself something) but rather two of the Tachikomas. Part of the point of the main series after all was that they had achieved individuality, so naming them seems like an obvious next step. She also refers to one as Musashi during the ending raid on the hospital.
So yeah, admittedly not enough to balance out a lot of the bad, but I felt it worth mentioning.
What was wrong with 2nd GIG? I enjoyed it, almost more than the first season. I also thoroughly enjoyed Solid State Society.
Halo Canon I agree heavily. Raycevick would also agree.
It was a good season/series but it was during a time where us as people were sick and tired of politics and it nearly shoved it down our throats at the time. Now that feeling is lesson as more and more people are watching it. Hell it's on Toonami already.
I find the 1st gig had a better mystery and antagonist but 2nd gig had better action and drama (and Gouda even gets taken down a peg by Sec 9 with his overly elaborate but heavy handed planning).
@@TedShatner10 plus he was a much better villain than most sci-fi ones. He was incredibly conniving and malevolent without being cartoons. Considering he wanted to start ww4
2nd GIG is still pretty good but for me at least, the main story is harder to follow than the Laughing Man plot (not that it's bad), and it's heavy with politics. At the same time, the "Stand Alone" episodes in 2ng GIG generally weren't as strong as the ones in the first season (but there were still a couple good ones, like Saito's backstory and the one taking place in Germany).
The only thing I can think of is that the puppeteer was controlling this shell that looked like him, and had some form of filter or hack in place to keep the Major from doing much to notice, or that that he has an autonomous program that can run basic functions and social interactions when all that's needed is a body in place somewhere, and not active investigation. For instance, we know that there's all manner of android that also populate hte GitS world, and some of these have very relatable and humanlike characteristics that help them blend into their given role, so it's not far fetched to believe that if Makoto can somehow have a giant body storage and dive complex, that she could also have access to basic AI for hte purpose of slipping some of her shells into places where direct intervention may not be needed, with the option to sync with them later to gain possible intel. WHat could have surprised her is that one of her shells was possessed by the puppeteer program at that point in the story.
the ford gt thing gets me because technically it's IS less standout then what batou canonically drives which is a lotus esprit which not only being more noticeable it's also most likely a second or third gen which means it's more expensive.
Solid STATE Society? Japan, who are you trying to fool? We all know you wanted to call it Solid Snake Society.
13:00 -- Amusingly, psychics do exist in the GitS-universe, at least in the original manga. Its sequel, Man-Machine Interface features a psychic side character who occasionally projects herself to the Major's daughter's head without using cybernetics.
Digibro's praise for these car scenes in his video on the series, was hilarious. He made out that it was a revolutionary feat of animation.
At the time, it was the best looking cg anime had to offer. Sure it doesn't look as good or impressive now, but they looked amazing when the movie first released.
Some of the car scenes were brand integration with Nissan. In the scene where Togusa arrives in the black SUV, you might notice the Infiniti badge I'm the grille, with a license plate 3923 (San Kyu Ni San). In later scenes, Togusa can be seen driving a white hatchback that resembles the final design of the first generation Nissan Versa. So they may not have been necessary, but there was a reason why they existed.
Actually it makes sense, the puppetmaster must've still have some connection to the body when the major took it and the puppetmaster manipulated the major into not being fully aware of its autonomy. Think of it as like a shadow following the main character everywhere she went with her not being fully aware of it the whole time.
So why do all this? I think that the a I wanted to measure an aspect of humanity and used Motoko as the measuring stick
The funny thing about togusa's hack scene, is That he didn't have to shoot himself at all. He could have just discharged his weapon, and he would have been immediately arrested. No more doctor's appointment, and his friends would have shown up to bail him out.
Who else didn't know this existed?
Such a glorious day when Bennett uploads another Anime Abandon!
Does suave just stand there? Is that what he does whenever an episode is being made and just hope he has something to do in this one?
Well, considering it's Bennet in a bathrobe, yeah I'd figure he's just standing there all day long in hopes of a line. :P
Remember how long he has been a part of the show, he hosted the second episode after all. How many combined hours of his life has he spent hanging around just off camera waiting for any chance to pipe in and say something. How many days worth of time has had him standing there?
Or you could think about it in reverse - that Suave only appears when he's hanging around (there's a lot of episodes without him). As a useless, bathrobe-wearing, mom's-basement-dwelling man-child, it's quite logical that he'd hang around Sage quite a bit. He's got nothing better to do ^_^
It seems like the identity of the Puppeteer would have been smarter/easier to understand if it took a bit from Holokara from AT4W, an A.I. based on the hero (Motoko) that diverged and became someone else entirely but one the viewer could see was possible for her to become. That was one of the best bits of acting I saw from Lewis, where he admitted he could easily have become that angry and bitter if he hadn't changed what he was doing.
My heart jumped a beat for the second I thought they killed Togusa
Oh hey, I didn't realize they Hobbit-style turned opening chapter of a manga, kidnapped children working for the government, into entire movie. Thank you for amazing episode, Sage
Very much enjoyed the episode. Enjoy your break!
Aaaaaaaah finally wer're back to the natural non-over saturated hyper uber HDR lightning, thank the mother modem! For the last year or so my eyes have been bleeding everytime I've watched anime abandon but at last i can enjoy it without severe eye trauma!
Nice TopGear UK drop! Love your work as always, good sir!
"More rare than ESP" would've meant "I can't even believe there's ONE like her."
If I had an emergency hatchet it would be a broadaxe.
Thank you for going back to is intro. The other one I hated because it didn't look right. Felt something out of a middle school film project gone wrong.
i loved the franchise, and all of the anime installations. pacing is fine to me.
I really wish that he would review the bastard!!! OVA
Hell ya!
And dirty pair
+Kosta Jovanovic yep expecially dirty pair!
I feel like me and Bennett are not on the same page with this, no wait, not even the same book. I mean really, the less said about season 2 the better, what does that mean.
Completely agree. The second season is BAE!
CornishCreamtea07 I assume that Bennett isn't a fan of 2nd Gig
Yeah I know what you mean, apart from that *_ONE_* episode, I've always thought 2nd Gig had a stronger overarching narrative with the Individual 11 case than what 1st Gig had with the Laughing Man phenomenon. That said I'm sure he has his reasons, since I did find myself agreeing with him on the climax of Solid State Society despite having a higher opinion of it overall.
Redux Which episode are you referring to?
Episode 2 of 2nd Gig, "Night Cruise". That's the one set from the perspective of the war veteran turned helicopter pilot's delusional, withdrawn mind. It was entirely pointless (something that even Section 9 laments), had no deeper message to share, didn't further the overall plot and was honestly boring to watch. Stand Alone Complex is above making such superfluous fluff, so how this episode got greenlit is beyond my comprehension 😕.
First time I saw this movie and the car shots I immediately discerned they are for product placements, you can clearly see Infinity, Nissan, Ford and Porshe cars and/or logos.
&We GAF becuz ????
Oh man...Pokemon the first movie review? This is going to be goooood.
I know this is 3 years old and I'm not expecting a response, it just annoyed me enough to comment.
Sponsorships aside, the car scenes are either plot relevant, character quirks, or to avoid messy jump cuts that make it look like Togusa lives next door to both wherever he was when he got the call his daughter was missing and the cyberbrain hospital.
Also, it's just easier visually to establish where characters are and how many will be in subsequent scenes.
The scene with Batou and barely important sniper guy following Raj Putah was plot relevant because it established the setting for the final confrontation as the story threads were tying up in the background. Batou in Aramaki's car is an established character interaction between them, made all the more "special" because I believe Mokoto used to do it too until Aramaki got cyberbrain implants.
The scenes with Batou commenting on the expensive car in the hospital lot IS a little clunky if only because it shouldn't be weird to see an expensive car in the staff lot of a hospital, honestly it was weirder that the place was CLOSED, but it did clue the character in that this female cyborg isn't just using a similar model.
Her taking his car after establishes that the body of the assemblyman is HER before the big reveal and she's forgotten selectively how many bodies she has on tap, not just her neighbor using a body charging port.
i really enjoyed this movie but this is a completely fair and justified review of it. plus sages seizure was priceless... and perfect use of top gear =D
10:36 BRING! BRING! Your cars been stolen
Wait, wasn't it established in the first movie that Togusa didn't have a cybernetic brain that could be Ghost-hacked? Wasn't that the entire reason the Major brought him onto her team in GitS?
You know, I genuinely like Dark Hero and the Speed Racer adaptation. If you ever revisit something, I think it would be so cool to see a Sage and Egoraptor crossover where you have a hilarious feud over Speed Racer. Since I've already mentioned Dark Hero, I'd love to see just about any reviewer do a crossover with David Hayter focusing on Dark Hero. I dunno how he feels about it as a film, but I'm sure he'd have some excellent reactions to his own performance.
Well... given that he made a TH-cam channel to upload a video celebrating MGS's 20th anniversary and named it "GuyverSnake" I'd say he's rather proud of that fact.
22:50 thanks for being one of the only reviewers i know of to use the princess bride boo scene
Bennet please dont start down the Pokemon road. It will just end in tears and possibly gunshots. Save yourself.
G.I.T.S.? Don't you mean G.I.T.S.S.S.S.?
G.I.T.S.S.A.C.S.S.S.
@@zsolthornyak8431 it's sounds like a British insult for a horrible persons testicals
Sage is reviewing Pokémon the first movie the day after my birthday. Best birthday present ever.
NICE! i was wondering when you'd review this.
The best part of this review, the top gear clip. God I miss those guys
Solid State Society was good tho
Darkside Hero I don't see why everyone bashes it. I really enjoyed this as well.
@@Ethan-jr3dz Because it's not the grand finale to Stand Alone Complex that everyone was expecting.
lol that wasn't a car seat for the kid, that was the actual car's seat, the driver side is the exact same
Are you absolutely right about the cars being unnecessary bits of technofetishism? Yes; but as a car guy anime lover, it’s another aspect of Ghost in the Shell that I love
How was Togusa hacked? It's been a long time since I watch GitS:SAC, but I though part of his deal was that he didn't have any cybernetics.
why he doesn't have cybernetics, he does have a cyberbrain, so hacking him is possible.
Yeah I was under the impression that he was "old fashioned." Hence, the revolver instead of a newer automatic.
Matthew Castillo iirc, hes lightly modded.
SAC there is a brief line in one of the early episodes where the major says he has a slight brain augmentation. part of the reason why he can use cybercoms and jack into things
he did but he had the bare minimum required to work there.
But.. Even if Scott Pilgrim managed to translate a good visual style and theme... The history were COMPLETLY changed o__o
Of course, it's a movie, it can't fit all of it, that's to be expected
If it had been multiple movies, it would have been unforgivable to change things as much as they did. As a stand alone movie? If they hadn't changed things, it would have been too long and probably unwatchable. The movie is amazing and does a really good job of creating a concise adaptation of the source material. Would it have been better as a mini-series? Maybe. WIll we ever find out? Probably not. There just isn't enough of a fan base (or interest, as the box office of the movie shows) to warrant it. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is my favorite movie and it is one of the only times I saw a trailer and not only did I want to see it immediately, every friend I was at the theater with wanted to as well. The movie did not disappoint and it got me interested in the comic that preceded it, so win/win. Plus that sweet video game.
kinnikufan I wouldn't even mind a multi Scott pilgrim movie series.
A Scott Pilgrim Trilogy.......... That would be Awesome.....😃
I actually liked the Scott Pilgrim film... but then I haven't read the comic.
Though I really would have been interested in a Scott Pilgrim TV series... though I probably would have been more interested if it had been transplanted from Canada to the UK (somewhere other than London, like Glasgow, Cardiff or Newcastle, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol, Plymouth... anywhere but that fuckin' London!)
This series was the GITS I first experienced, it was shown in Animax when I still live in mainland China, ah memories
1:00 I kinda liked Guyver 1 & 2.
23:55 And after hearing all that, I've gone cross-eyed.
While the sniper duel and gunfights were exciting, and that bit with Togusa and his daughter harrowing (which also tells me Motoko and Batou are her honorary Cool Aunt and Fun Uncle), yeah, there's a lot going on here that doesn't make much sense.
the counting gag returns, WITH A VENGIOUS
YES!!!! FINALLY! YOU'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE 1ST POKEMON MOVIE!!! HYPED UP AS SHIT!!!!!!
Damn you Sage! Guyver 2 was awesome!
14:16 "Well, I can't complain about the nurse uniforms here."
I felt compelled to watch this one on 2/3/2024, the date (according to SAC) of The Laughing Man Incident.
Enjoy your OdinSleep, Sage. We'll be here when you return.
23:50 had me in fucking tears! Best Sage Scene Ever!
22:40 Oh, gawd, the buildup to that slew me! I laughed so hard my ribs hurt XD
Little do you know, a main character in the current running manga is a psychic
*rubs hands together* Can't wait for that Pokemon Movie review. It gonna be goooooooood.
Sage reviewing Pokemon 1st Movie aka Sage tearing apart childhood. Someone get me some popcorn I can't wait XD
Hey I just wanted to mention the strobing light in the background on the too shelf of your collection. Maybe it's just me.
Sage is doing the first Pokemon movie? My body is ready.
OMFG! He's gonna cover the first Pokémon movie?
...Gabe, RUN!!! YOU DON'T HAVE ANYMORE EYES FOR HIM TO CLAIM!!! ONLY YOUR SOUL REMAINS!!!
The car scenes are there for promotional material. yep.
you're going to be gone a whole month? Have a good vacation, we'll miss you!
Sage your first Ghost of the Shell review is dead. Copyright nazis got ya?
Solid State was AWESOME.
A top gear reference never thought I'd see one of those done by an American reviewer
I’m happy the Tachikoma are back.
Look, sage, I love you man, but this review was really really bad. Everything you complain about are either massively minor nitpicks that no-one NO-ONE would care about, something that's part of the whole reason anime fans like this series/this movie in particular, or stuff that is really not worth talking about, like the cars thing. I do love this movie, but I'm almost always willing to admit the failings of even something I like, including in this case. I will totally admit solid state society has flaws, but almost none of them are ANYTHING you mentioned in this review.
FrankFerret or you're a whiny fanboy trying to discredit someone's opinion just because they disagree with you
Uhh no I think my points are actually pretty legitimate. Like I said, I never claimed Solid State was anything close to perfect, I just don't see the things he brought up specifically as actual flaws. Sometimes people try to read into stuff specifically to find things that aren't there and that's what I feel like he's doing. I feel that Solid State has some quite flat dialogue, the art style and colour palette isn't as vibrant and interesting to look at as the other gits movies and series and the audio mixing is kind of inconsistent. I do, however, think most of the complaints about the actual plot and flow of the anime are unjustified, especially the Togusa fake out. Sure it would be interesting to go the direction he suggested, but the fact that they didn't go in that direction is just as important as the fact they could have.
FrankFerret that doesn't mean he's trying to find bad things about it. he would've preferred something different and considering how stupidly that scene was handled I don't blame him for saying that.
and I'm just gonna say this, the only time I've ever seen people who try to find reasons to hate something are trolls like Gligar13vids that only exist to piss off fans of the games he talks about. No one legitimately tries to do that.
557deadpool no... he's just leaving out/misrepresenting key plot points the entire movie hinges on, in order to create plot holes in order to bash the movie with while using a double standard in order to bash this movie for doing the exact same things the previous Ghost in the Shell movies did.
@@557deadpool Sage is a goddamned moron who doesn't get even the basic plot points of GITS. Rewatching the movie and a TVtropes search to prove I wasn't alone in my interpretation only serves to prove that Bennet can't handle anything that doesn't hold you by the hand.
3:10 The link to the first GitS movie review says it's been removed. Has it been put somewhere else?
the clip that was in context literally about the gt40's shitty antitheft system for when she stole it killed me A+
you removed the ghost in the shell original movie review. will it be up loaded again?
I had forgotten I'd seen this movie until now.
Matthew Wells hi mxdan
Ghost in the shell a movie I can't wait ... to rent on Amazon.
the first ghost in the shell vid was taken down Y-Y
1:17, omg, I nailed "passable" right before you said it, which is what reminds me of 98% of media these 2010-2017 days.
15:00 How of curiosity, anyone can tell me if the Japanese dialogue is different ?
this is probably been asked a million times but what are the animes he uses in his intro?
There in their car
They feel safest of all
They can lock all their doors
It's the only way to live
In cars
question: how do they have the Tachikoma's when they killed themselves spectacularly in order to save Batou, and the series ends with new think tanks?
For 2nd Gig the Major saved one of their brains and their original creator was able to rebuild their AI ghosts and for Solid State Society the Tachikoma had backed up their consciousnesses to the net before they destroyed their own satellite. In a sense the originals died and the clones got revived (similar to how things worked in Soma if you've ever played that).
Motoko was on the crane to fill out the map.
What's the song in the opening called? The one she's standing on top of a building, listening to?
I don't know, but this series has a really good soundtrack. The song you mention sounds like Stamina Rose from the first episode of SAC, and it's even used in a similar context.
Ghostwriter That song is called Inner Universe and it's absolutely fantastic.
Meh, I preferred Rise
DigitalFulcrum
Thanks, mate, I was wondering about the same thing.
it's called zero signal
The entire premise of ghost in the Shell comes down to the simple question, what does it mean to be human? But another way to look at it is the question, who is Motoko Kusanagi? Because she is the embodiment of the question of what it means to be human. No matter what the continuity as a child she had everything taken away from her including her own body and consequently, became one of the first cyborgs. Not just any cyborg, but one that is over 90% mechanical.
She is a observer of the human race who constantly asked the question, when any part of your body can be replaced with machinery, when the human brain can be mimicked by computer, when your memories and sense of self to be altered with a press of a button, what does it mean to be a human? What is the nature of oneself or the soul? Can such a thing be quantifiable?
Reason why people love her is because while she is an embodiment of the question, she is also the answer. An answer that comes in the form of her actions.
She lives in a world that is constantly on the edge of war, a place where one could easily sell their humanity for convenience, a place where one can lose one's sense of self and have everything about them altered in the instant. So what does she do? She may think of herself as a cold-blooded killer or somebody does completely detached from humanity. But it couldn't be followed from the truth.
The simple reason why she keeps fighting is because she can't turn away from a situation that's going south. It was a court law is so she will be willingly become a criminal to bring them to justice. If she sees a child being harmed she will endanger our own life to save it.
Think of the most iconic scene in all of the movie, when the puppet master was running amuck in the only way to stop it was behind a impossible to open door she proceeded to use everything she had to try to ter the door open to a point of destroying her own body. Why would she do this? For knowledge? For power? Or was it just just stop a weapon of war from harming innocent people?
Reason why people love her so much is because despite how mechanical she is in body, she is very human spirit. For all the strengths and weaknesses that come with it.
Damn, that's pretty sad for this movie. I was hoping this would be something, but it's pointless.
Can't wait for April! First NC, Suede w/ Linkara and JewWario (god rest his soul), and now you? Sweet. Can't wait for your take on Pokemon.
Bato shaped hole in the ground did it for me
You know who could really sort out the GitS universe? Raiden.
Hmm, hope you will not end up reviewing the first pokemon movie by 'adult' standards as frankly put, that movie was really meant for kids. Back then there were no big groups of adult fans, now there are as those are the kids from then grown up.
Eucep children shows should be held to a higher standard than adult films.
Higher standard is not the same as looking at it with adult values. But yes, I agree, kids shows should hold up to better scrutiny then even adult shows.
Well the original Japanese was created with both children _and_ adults in mind (Takeshi Shudo cared about it that much), so technically, if you review that copy, it can be reviewed by adult standards. 4KIDS only kept maybe one of those original mature points in the film when it came to Mewtwo, but watered it down with the character. (Had Kids WB allowed them to keep in the first ten minutes with Amber-two, it might've helped the dub a little bit.)
even for kids there are still some pretty ridiculous things in this movie.....like team rocket dressing up as vikings and the comment about vikings living in minnesota.
Eucep the "meant for kids" excuse is total garbage. I'm sick of people using that excuse when we have shows like Avatar The Last Airbender, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Legend of Korra, Gravity Falls and the films from Pixar animation studios and Studio Ghibli prove you can make animation that appeals to all ages.
This age old excuse has been used to lazily justify shoddy writing by people who can't admit they just aren't very good writers. Pokemon has proven that it can be something so much deeper with stuff like the Adventures manga, Origins and Generations. But they never try and just stick with Ash and never evolve him as a character using him simply to promote the games and not giving a single flying fuck about him or any character in the anime.
Guyver Dark Hero was awesome. Watch it, mister.