James Baldwin: White supremacy was born in Europe

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  • This is an extract from a 1976 interview in French. It was during the release of the French translation of James Baldwin's If Beale Street Could Talk, interviewed on May 29th 1976 for the Sillages program.
    This video was originally published by ' COLLECTIF JAMES BALDWIN' on TH-cam. I only added the English subtitles here.
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  • @khayalethumakosi6678
    @khayalethumakosi6678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    this is extremely beautiful seeing him speaking french

  • @yungjmoney8352
    @yungjmoney8352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "For us, black Americans - we had to find a way to live there and within and overcome it all. Because we could not go backwards. We don't have a dream for a country somewhere, where we could go one day to die. This goes on to this day for that matter."

    • @VictorLdVS
      @VictorLdVS 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷

  • @VENUS.SE7EN
    @VENUS.SE7EN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I watched this twice in a row: once to admire his diction, even in a foreign language, although I'd have expected nothing less from him. And once to go back and read the subtitles. 🤣❤ He was a king. 🔥

  • @jessicasager72
    @jessicasager72 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "If you pay a high enough price for something, it is yours." Paid in blood, sweat and tears. Freedom and equality, liberty, earned.

  • @BrettHeth
    @BrettHeth 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As always, he speaks the truth with great clarity and imagination. Also one of the world's best writers, unfairly overlooked too often.

  • @WhatIThink45
    @WhatIThink45 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, I didn't know he spoke French.

    • @CC-Tron
      @CC-Tron 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He lived in Paris for 9 years.

  • @velociraptor3313
    @velociraptor3313 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Also I don't know much about James Baldwin but he sounds like a good and wise man, does anyone know which of his books I should start with? I've been reading the histories by Herodotus, I've also been getting into classical literature and wish to explore more of ancient greek and roman philosophy.

    • @kodyb5869
      @kodyb5869 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The fire next time and notes of a native son are great books! He also has a lot of fiction books he’s written too like go tell it on the mountain

    • @velociraptor3313
      @velociraptor3313 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kodyb5869 Thank you, I shall add them to my list of books to read.

    • @hectorrico7267
      @hectorrico7267 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He made a documentary called "I am Not Your Negro" its fantastic and still stands true till today.

  • @horsymandias-ur
    @horsymandias-ur 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    But he was wrong. The people could not, in fact, live without Coca Cola

    • @JAHLEADINI
      @JAHLEADINI 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      hey that's addict shaming bro, you know they had tons of coke in that coke😂😢😅😮

  • @velociraptor3313
    @velociraptor3313 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If I may be honest mate I never understood the concept of White supremacy, why would I ever consider myself part of one "race" because of the colour of my skin? It's ridiculous, I've always considered myself Australian/American with a mix of European heritage. Regardless of whatever your skin colour is or what your ethnic background or religion we are all human beings trying to live our lives in this world that we call home. And no matter where you go there are good and bad people in the world. So if I may suggest instead of focusing on race or other petty nonsense we should strive to help our fellow man for the betterment of all of humanity. "All men are created equal." that's a motto that I'll follow till the day I die and the principles of democracy. Always keep an open mind, don't let politics or whatever cloud your judgement and always do what's right. Thank you for sharing this video mate and greetings from Australia.

    • @Jamluji
      @Jamluji 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As Kamala says, "you did not just fall out of a coconut tree. You exist in the context of that which came before you." White Supremacy is what grants you the label of American/Australian. Because in reality, you are neither of those things. Those who came before you commited genocide so you can enjoy what you enjoy. Whiteness is inescapable. You can be nice, civil and cordial in person but so we're many space owners, their kids and their grand kids. Your task may be to actually understand 2White Supremacy. Those who are not White have had to understand it, and more have died because of it.

    • @ChipDouglas-lw9xh
      @ChipDouglas-lw9xh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Jamlujibut ur also enjoying what they built so ur not any different.

    • @ChipDouglas-lw9xh
      @ChipDouglas-lw9xh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s collectivism vs individualism. Whites are are in general inherently individualistic, other groups struggle with it. They’re projecting when they talk about whites because they’re assuming they’re basing everything off of a group racial identity.

    • @TedATL1
      @TedATL1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's not color it is culture, which is sometimes consonant with a skin color or ethnicity.
      Cultures do differ. And yes, some are better than others. Individuals are equal, but cultures are not.

  • @kittymuse4005
    @kittymuse4005 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    He was everything America hated: brillant; well spoken; Author; Gay; Black man.

    • @OfficialKiwiFrankencop
      @OfficialKiwiFrankencop 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      More like their biggest fears came true, finally someone came along that could articulate the subject matter in a way that could convince the most deeply racist person into thinking “hey maybe “I” have been the problem here.”

    • @ChipDouglas-lw9xh
      @ChipDouglas-lw9xh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@OfficialKiwiFrankencopa country that has legalized gay marriage and that African immigrants flee too definitely doesn’t fear that.

    • @TedATL1
      @TedATL1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dont be stupid.
      Moreover, Americans were never any more "anti-gay" nor "anti-black" than Europeans. They just didnt have any blacks! So the few that came over were exotics, like mascots. Look at Europe now that they are getting some real minorities for the first time. They are falling apart.

  • @AnBarbarossa
    @AnBarbarossa 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ridiculous. He says he was forced to partake in American culture. He was not forced to anything. He was just being treated like everybody else who was being born and raised in America. Would he prefer to be treated differently? Pathetic.

    • @filazkeita2272
      @filazkeita2272 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Treated like everybody else in America? A black, gay, treated like everyone else? You should think more than twice before speaking

  • @TedATL1
    @TedATL1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    His extreme bitterness became toxic. Black Americans arent the only people in America, much less the world, to have
    awful problems. In fact, black Americans are some of the richest, most privileged, most free people in world history.
    Yes, there are a few people who are EVEN richer and more privileged, but you have a choice to see the glass 95% full or 5% empty.
    He chose the latter.
    Contrast his attitude to another poor boy from Harlem --- Professor Thomas Sowell, now 94.

    • @Ryan-on5on
      @Ryan-on5on 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Where is your proof that "black Americans are some of the richest, most privileged, most free people in world history." Until you can back your bold claim with pertinent statistics and other objective evidence (preferably from sources other than Sowell), I will remain a skeptic!

    • @carljones9640
      @carljones9640 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why is it that the first thing you think when someone talks about their difficulty is "But other people have it just as bad or worse!" instead of listening to them honestly and fairly? If you believe this, you don't know what poverty in the rest of the world looks like and how similar the poverty of black Americans is to the worst parts of the world. A significant portion of black America lives in legitimate third-world conditions. And that's even worse precisely because they live in the richest country in the world. You have no clue how poverty works if you don't understand it's easier to be poor where everyone is poor than it is to be poor where your neighbors are rich. I grew up poor. My family never felt any of the economic crises of the early 21st century. The only thing the Great Recession and housing crisis of the 2000's caused was putting other people on our level. An economic downturn in the US doesn't hurt the poor anywhere as much as the well off, precisely because the poor are already poor.
      And don't even bother pearl-clutching Sowell. Thomas Sowell literally sells a revisionist, short-sighted interpretation of the causes of poverty, relying on a convenient misinterpretation of statistics (in that regard, he's the Darrel Huff of race). In Sowell's world view, if the government built a road through your living room and then let live traffic run through it, it'd be your fault if you got run over because you shouldn't have stood in the road. If you asked the government to move the road they put there, he'd label you dysfunctionally lazy for not moving it yourself. If the government moved the road and destroyed your house in the process and then refused to rebuild it, he'd blame you for having asked the government to move it.

    • @Janibek35
      @Janibek35 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      At least in the US, I think the indigenous people are the most hard done by.

    • @WhatIThink45
      @WhatIThink45 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No matter what you and others think about Black people in this country, we're not going make light of the horrible racism from whites that we've experienced in this country. And wet won't forget. The past and wrongs can't be erased by a few rich Black people. White people literally enslaved people to enrich themselves and because they thought, and still think, they're better than everyone else. That's their superiority/inferiority complex. Seriously disturbing.

  • @elpablo2747
    @elpablo2747 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The godfather of black fragility

    • @anonymouslakernerd7214
      @anonymouslakernerd7214 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Say more.

    • @elpablo2747
      @elpablo2747 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@anonymouslakernerd7214 no thanks. Nailed it the first time 😂

    • @filazkeita2272
      @filazkeita2272 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@elpablo2747Nailed what?Showcasing your stupidity?

  • @johnduffin9425
    @johnduffin9425 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    ashamed of nothing. offended by everything. wakanda forever

    • @famuyiwaolukayode8
      @famuyiwaolukayode8 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      small boy, look for something original. This has been played out. #ridiculous

    • @johnduffin9425
      @johnduffin9425 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@famuyiwaolukayode8 I’m sure you meant to say Leroy
      And NOT BOY!

    • @garyspence2128
      @garyspence2128 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not just that, but added small, just for spiteful intent. Talk about played out cliches. Silly anglo fool. Some folks never change. Still afraid of us after all these years...almost comical. Almost...

  • @joemaxfield6978
    @joemaxfield6978 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Complainer-in-Chief: James Baldwin