YEs - but these mics have been around for ages. They are just TOO noisy for me. I really tried to gain stage then to eliminate it, but for acoustic instruments they are, too noisy and brittle. Knocking off that Brittleness which is almost like hearing digital clipping, also takes the brightness away. I beleive there are better for the price. Do some looking if you want these. There ARE defo better ones for the same price. I will post that when I find them.
This is one of the best microphone reviews I have seen so far. And I truly I have seen a lot. Very helpful for someone who is looking for good instrument recording on a budget!
My jaw dropped when I heard the price. That's insane how cheap it is. I am tempted to pick up a pair but they aren't available right now. One day I will pick them up because that price is too good to pass on. I feel the loss of sound in proximity is a good thing. Especially if you are using it in a TH-cam talking head style. Great review, it was very informative!
Yes, they are insanely cheap… but wait for the others I will compare in this series as well - the next one is a set of 2 mics + 3 capsules each (basically a clone of the Oktava MK-012 set with 3 capsules) for… wait for it… 66€ or something around $70 🙈. But then again… also wait for the review between them all to see how they sound compared to each other.
This was fantastic! I've been looking at a pair of these microphones for precisely the same use case - going into a Zoom H6, to record vocals. Everything I needed to know was covered! Thank you so much.
Can I ask if you have an opinion on the use of cheap versus 'pro' XLR cables. On the one hand, it's a shame to spoil a decent microphone with a poor quality cable, on the other hand, why pay double the price just because some marketing guy put the word 'pro' or 'premium' in the advert...? Do you have any evidence as to what difference it makes? Can you, in fact, really HEAR any difference? Thanks.
@@bretagnemaison5455 Thanks for your comment and appreciation. Around cables: I personally do not care to buy "pro or premium" cables. I do not believe that they significantly change the sound. But I also do not buy the cheapest possible cables. However, that has more to do with the fact that I prefer braided cables for their look and feel 🙈.
I have these, and love them. I love their sound so much, I've equalized my dynamic microphones to sound like them. Yes, I think they're that good. In fact, they're the only microphones I have, save for the Behringer C-1, that I use just as they are. All my other mics (except for the C-1) are equalized to match them. No, I haven't experience with more expensive mics, but for their price, the matched pair of C-2s are perfect for me.
The C2 really is remarkable for the price. However, I can confirm your point, that the volume drops quite fast when you move away from the mic. I’m using it standing on my desk, around 30-40cm from my mouth and I feel that I have to increase the gain quite a lot to get a decent volume. Sadly this introduces quite a lot of self noise. What is your experience with the required gain? Comparing the initial segment from the Okatava to the C2, it seems like the C2 is lacking a lot of the low end. Looking forward to the full review on the Oktava!
Hi Jannik, thanks for your thoughts about the video. I was also really surprised with the drop off in volume with distance… especially compared to other microphones. And being close up on it, it's pretty sensitive to wind / plosives. In terms of gain required, you are right. As soon as I moved away a little more I would need to add a lot of gain. Now, the Zoom F6 is incredibly low in self noise and with the 32bit float recording adding gain in post is possible pretty easily, however with this mic… I needed to add 13db of gain to the 30 cm version to get to the same level as the proximity test, for the 1m version it was about 20db and that introduces self noise to a basically unusable level. I may include this comparison with the final review. Thanks for the idea and I hope you will enjoy the other videos coming up.
Depends on your country, and length of the cables. I really like braided XLR cables but those are usually a bit more expensive. Maybe these are interesting suggestions for you: crsp.li/xlrcable3m
meine idee ist mit 4 von diesen, einen Raum mit ca 20 Personen dauszurichten. Die Personen sind in einem Seminar und antworten vereinzelt. oder gibt es eine bessere Idee?? das Seminar wird per video aufgezeichnet und es wäre nicht so cool wenn ständig jemand rum läuft der ein boomstick hält. Lg Andi
Hey man great video ... I have a question - Does the gain structure on these mics also match? I got new ones for my Church and noticed that one of them works fine with only a quarter of the trim knob opened but the other one doesn't respond well even if the trim knob is around the 2 o clock position. Could it be that one of my mics is defective? Thanks in advance for the help.
I tested a new pair today. Great sounding but the switches on both mics were extremely noisy - sounded like a bad switch. Anyone had a similar experience?
I bought some even cheaper microphones about a year ago: The Superlux Sonata 88s dynamic vocal mic. The price was about $50 ... for a sixpack! Are they any good? Yes - apart from crazy handling noise, they're, well, not stellar, but quite alright.
There are adapters (but they are usually not great). What you want is an Audio Interface with XLR like the Røde AI-1 ( th-cam.com/video/XbmI-Hc5AF4/w-d-xo.html ).
Muy buen trabajo, tengo la siguiente duda que diferencia existe entre el c4 con el c2 de berhinger y cual es la mejor opción para grabar guitarra clásica
Hello Adrian, I sadly do not speak Spanish that well and it would be easier if you would ask in english. I used a translate tool and my response would be something like this: Looking at the two microphones on an online store, I would guess they are the same based on the pictures. But the description is slightly different. So I am not sure if they actually are different. Please read the details on the Behringer.com page if you want to make sure which is the right for you.
I am not really very well versed in the mic requirements for this use-case. Especially with echo cancelation and such things. I would recommend talking to the support from Thomann.de for example and ask them for this kind of information.
Why would you want that? If you're planning to do hand-held recordings, you might as well use the inbuilt mics. The handling noise would probably be very similar. To avoid handling noise, Rycote makes a Zoom H5 Audio Kit with a furry windscreen, handling bar and shock mount. Unfortunately it's much more expensive than a pair of C-2. But my guess is that it isn't possible to stick the mic in directly. But there are very short cables on the market: 1m, 50cm or even 30cm (1foot).
I would guess you may be forgetting that these need Phantom Power? Maybe that's the issue? Other than that, I'd send them back if they keep on not working.
We’ve tried turning it on but no sound is picked up from the mics. I think they’re just broken. They were bought a long time ago and they never knew how to use them so they were put in their case again.
@@j_valladares_/videos Sounds a bit strange. Mics don't usually just break like that. Hope you can figure it out, get them checked by someone locally, or something.
From what I remember: the technical specs say it's cardioid, but then the print on the mic itself shows a hyper cardioid capsule design. It's a bit confusing. But you can hear for yourself in the tests if you would call it hyper-cardioid or cardioid.
@@ChrisSpiegl might pick up a pair these days. I have high end gear and mic, but these days I'm into the thinking :let's make music with the cheapest gear and devolop my fully potential with it. Cause with good gear is easy. I firmly believe a great talent can shine trough any type of gear, in this case budget and still get the message across.
@@savanaviolenta That's a great idea to test out. I myself am experiencing similar situations. Having an audio recorder, camera, XLR mic, and all; and sometimes wondering; how easy things would be if I would just take the camera put a mic on top and be done 🙈. Sometimes, higher quality adds to the work and makes the process less fun. And other times it's the opposite.
Thank you for sharing your insight. It's always great to hear from others. At the time of making these videos, I tried to get a Samson as well but did not find any for testing and Samson also did not respond to my requests. Maybe I can test them in the future.
The Samson C02 is twice the price of the Behringer C-2 here in Europe. I own the Samson, but I do not own the Behringer, so I can't compare. But judging from on-line audio samples I would have thought the Beringer C-2 was better. (I'd better buy a pair, I guess). But the Samson probably has a more focused, almost super cardioid polar pattern, which would help the audio quality if you're at a distance from the microphone.
@@dipoput maybe, maybe not. I don’t think one could say that generalization about Germans. Something I found online: Europeans, for example, tend to begin counting with the thumb of their left hand. People from the Middle East, however, often begin counting with the little finger of their right hand. If you hail from China, or North America, you're more likely to begin counting on an index finger. Now, why did I? Not really sure. Just to mix things up maybe?
Behringer is one of the most exciting companies to observe these days. They only get better
YEs - but these mics have been around for ages. They are just TOO noisy for me. I really tried to gain stage then to eliminate it, but for acoustic instruments they are, too noisy and brittle. Knocking off that Brittleness which is almost like hearing digital clipping, also takes the brightness away. I beleive there are better for the price. Do some looking if you want these. There ARE defo better ones for the same price. I will post that when I find them.
@@willb1157 can you post these better sounding mics with similar price?
This is one of the best microphone reviews I have seen so far. And I truly I have seen a lot. Very helpful for someone who is looking for good instrument recording on a budget!
Thank you, I appreciate that - despite not covering instrument recording 🙈. Hope you find the mic that fits your needs best 👍.
My jaw dropped when I heard the price. That's insane how cheap it is. I am tempted to pick up a pair but they aren't available right now. One day I will pick them up because that price is too good to pass on. I feel the loss of sound in proximity is a good thing. Especially if you are using it in a TH-cam talking head style. Great review, it was very informative!
Yes, they are insanely cheap… but wait for the others I will compare in this series as well - the next one is a set of 2 mics + 3 capsules each (basically a clone of the Oktava MK-012 set with 3 capsules) for… wait for it… 66€ or something around $70 🙈.
But then again… also wait for the review between them all to see how they sound compared to each other.
You did a great job, brother. . . Thank you. I appreciate this review. Thank you so much.
This was fantastic! I've been looking at a pair of these microphones for precisely the same use case - going into a Zoom H6, to record vocals. Everything I needed to know was covered! Thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful and thank you for your comment 🌸.
How’s ur experience till now??
Quality made video, thanks for the detailed insight!
Glad it helped! 🌸
Hi Chris, what a fantastically thorough and informative video 👍 EXACTLY the sort of analysis I was looking for. Thankyou. 🙂
regards , Mark
Can I ask if you have an opinion on the use of cheap versus 'pro' XLR cables. On the one hand, it's a shame to spoil a decent microphone with a poor quality cable, on the other hand, why pay double the price just because some marketing guy put the word 'pro' or 'premium' in the advert...?
Do you have any evidence as to what difference it makes? Can you, in fact, really HEAR any difference?
Thanks.
@@bretagnemaison5455 Thanks for your comment and appreciation.
Around cables: I personally do not care to buy "pro or premium" cables. I do not believe that they significantly change the sound.
But I also do not buy the cheapest possible cables. However, that has more to do with the fact that I prefer braided cables for their look and feel 🙈.
Amazing quality review, thank you for your effort.
Thank you. I appreciate that a lot. 🌸
Helps me to continue. ☺️
For the distance recordings it would have been nice if you had turned up the gain, so that we might hear how much noise there would be.
Thanks for your feedback. Would be a good idea indeed.
I have these, and love them. I love their sound so much, I've equalized my dynamic microphones to sound like them. Yes, I think they're that good. In fact, they're the only microphones I have, save for the Behringer C-1, that I use just as they are. All my other mics (except for the C-1) are equalized to match them. No, I haven't experience with more expensive mics, but for their price, the matched pair of C-2s are perfect for me.
That's awesome, knowing what you can do with mics and working with what you got is the most powerful thing!
The proximity drop is really weird, but could be useful. Very nice test video dude!
Very helpful, Thank you.
I just bought a pair 😊
Glad this video was helpful for you. Happy recording. 👌
Very nice video !thank you!!!!😊😊😊
Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate your comment here. 🌸
@@ChrisSpiegl 👍👍👍
awesome video bro, helpedv heeps
Thanks, I appreciate that 🌸.
The C2 really is remarkable for the price. However, I can confirm your point, that the volume drops quite fast when you move away from the mic. I’m using it standing on my desk, around 30-40cm from my mouth and I feel that I have to increase the gain quite a lot to get a decent volume. Sadly this introduces quite a lot of self noise.
What is your experience with the required gain?
Comparing the initial segment from the Okatava to the C2, it seems like the C2 is lacking a lot of the low end. Looking forward to the full review on the Oktava!
Hi Jannik, thanks for your thoughts about the video. I was also really surprised with the drop off in volume with distance… especially compared to other microphones. And being close up on it, it's pretty sensitive to wind / plosives.
In terms of gain required, you are right. As soon as I moved away a little more I would need to add a lot of gain.
Now, the Zoom F6 is incredibly low in self noise and with the 32bit float recording adding gain in post is possible pretty easily, however with this mic… I needed to add 13db of gain to the 30 cm version to get to the same level as the proximity test, for the 1m version it was about 20db and that introduces self noise to a basically unusable level.
I may include this comparison with the final review.
Thanks for the idea and I hope you will enjoy the other videos coming up.
This seems observe the law of inverse square:each doubling of distance from sound source, spl decrease by about 6 DB.
Nice one. Do you have any specific recommendations for XLR cables that would not break the bank to use with these?
Depends on your country, and length of the cables.
I really like braided XLR cables but those are usually a bit more expensive. Maybe these are interesting suggestions for you: crsp.li/xlrcable3m
meine idee ist mit 4 von diesen, einen Raum mit ca 20 Personen dauszurichten. Die Personen sind in einem Seminar und antworten vereinzelt. oder gibt es eine bessere Idee?? das Seminar wird per video aufgezeichnet und es wäre nicht so cool wenn ständig jemand rum läuft der ein boomstick hält.
Lg Andi
how did you get the hypercardioid capsules? thanks, nice vid
I wonder if this mic could be used to record the Hi-hat and Ride.
Hey man great video ... I have a question - Does the gain structure on these mics also match? I got new ones for my Church and noticed that one of them works fine with only a quarter of the trim knob opened but the other one doesn't respond well even if the trim knob is around the 2 o clock position. Could it be that one of my mics is defective? Thanks in advance for the help.
100% YESZ - DEFECTIVE. (8 months ago)!
Los compré y estoy feliz con ellos!!!
That's awesome. Happy creating 🌸.
Is it good for choir or ukulele instrument on performance ?
Based on the reviews / comments I have read about these, I'd say yes. But I generally do not do choir recordings.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you for your sharing! Have a great time!
I tested a new pair today. Great sounding but the switches on both mics were extremely noisy - sounded like a bad switch. Anyone had a similar experience?
Can it be used for choir or group singing in live stage performances?
Sute, just a question of which quality level you need for the performance recording.
I just need best microphone for student's choir group singing live stage performances in schools.
I just purchased a $20 stereo bracket.........If I subtract that from the price (as it is included), then the mics come out to $14 each...LOL
It's crazy for sure.
I bought some even cheaper microphones about a year ago: The Superlux Sonata 88s dynamic vocal mic. The price was about $50 ... for a sixpack! Are they any good? Yes - apart from crazy handling noise, they're, well, not stellar, but quite alright.
Not an expert asking: is it possible to connect/use C-2 on a PC via the USB?
_(which adaptor?)_
There are adapters (but they are usually not great).
What you want is an Audio Interface with XLR like the Røde AI-1 ( th-cam.com/video/XbmI-Hc5AF4/w-d-xo.html ).
I Have the c4 set, what's the difference?
This or the Samson C02?
is it good for choir?
Muy buen trabajo, tengo la siguiente duda que diferencia existe entre el c4 con el c2 de berhinger y cual es la mejor opción para grabar guitarra clásica
Hello Adrian, I sadly do not speak Spanish that well and it would be easier if you would ask in english. I used a translate tool and my response would be something like this:
Looking at the two microphones on an online store, I would guess they are the same based on the pictures. But the description is slightly different. So I am not sure if they actually are different. Please read the details on the Behringer.com page if you want to make sure which is the right for you.
@@ChrisSpiegl very good job thanks for the reply
Hii. Can we use this mic for chruch choir?
I am not really very well versed in the mic requirements for this use-case. Especially with echo cancelation and such things. I would recommend talking to the support from Thomann.de for example and ask them for this kind of information.
can you plug these two pairs directly into Zoom H5 without using XLR cables? Are the bottoms of mics narrow enough to squeeze into? Thanks a lot
I have never tried that 🙈 and sadly can't test it now because I don't have access to the mics and the recorder any more.
Why would you want that? If you're planning to do hand-held recordings, you might as well use the inbuilt mics. The handling noise would probably be very similar. To avoid handling noise, Rycote makes a Zoom H5 Audio Kit with a furry windscreen, handling bar and shock mount. Unfortunately it's much more expensive than a pair of C-2. But my guess is that it isn't possible to stick the mic in directly. But there are very short cables on the market: 1m, 50cm or even 30cm (1foot).
I’m trying to use these at my church but is not working can you help me?
I would guess you may be forgetting that these need Phantom Power? Maybe that's the issue? Other than that, I'd send them back if they keep on not working.
We’ve tried turning it on but no sound is picked up from the mics. I think they’re just broken. They were bought a long time ago and they never knew how to use them so they were put in their case again.
@@j_valladares_/videos Sounds a bit strange. Mics don't usually just break like that. Hope you can figure it out, get them checked by someone locally, or something.
Halloo is that used a phantom power....??
Thanks....
@@etsoncaminha9286 we did have that on
are they hypercardioid or just cardioid? I cant find anywhere saying it is hypercardioid.
From what I remember: the technical specs say it's cardioid, but then the print on the mic itself shows a hyper cardioid capsule design. It's a bit confusing. But you can hear for yourself in the tests if you would call it hyper-cardioid or cardioid.
can i use this for field recording and foley works?
Probably.
Unfortunately they are 60 euros in my country. Still very cheap.
Definitely still a consideration. I would say. 👍
@@ChrisSpiegl might pick up a pair these days. I have high end gear and mic, but these days I'm into the thinking :let's make music with the cheapest gear and devolop my fully potential with it. Cause with good gear is easy. I firmly believe a great talent can shine trough any type of gear, in this case budget and still get the message across.
@@savanaviolenta That's a great idea to test out. I myself am experiencing similar situations. Having an audio recorder, camera, XLR mic, and all; and sometimes wondering; how easy things would be if I would just take the camera put a mic on top and be done 🙈.
Sometimes, higher quality adds to the work and makes the process less fun. And other times it's the opposite.
but averything is possible
I think Samson C-2 is slightly better and also slightly more expensive
Thank you for sharing your insight. It's always great to hear from others. At the time of making these videos, I tried to get a Samson as well but did not find any for testing and Samson also did not respond to my requests. Maybe I can test them in the future.
The Samson C02 is twice the price of the Behringer C-2 here in Europe. I own the Samson, but I do not own the Behringer, so I can't compare. But judging from on-line audio samples I would have thought the Beringer C-2 was better. (I'd better buy a pair, I guess). But the Samson probably has a more focused, almost super cardioid polar pattern, which would help the audio quality if you're at a distance from the microphone.
He counts from his pinky finger first. I've never seen that
Switching things up every now and then… always a good idea 🌸.
What? You never seen that? Man, it's a basic stuff. If someone counts from his pinky finger first, meaning he's German!
@@dipoput maybe, maybe not. I don’t think one could say that generalization about Germans.
Something I found online:
Europeans, for example, tend to begin counting with the thumb of their left hand. People from the Middle East, however, often begin counting with the little finger of their right hand. If you hail from China, or North America, you're more likely to begin counting on an index finger.
Now, why did I? Not really sure. Just to mix things up maybe?
You are not filming. You are VIDEOING.
Ok, I'll take it.