"If these alleged 'civilians' are so civil, why are they in the middle of a warzone?"--- Brother Childbombicus, Captain of the battlebarge "The Expendable Orphan"
I have a homebrew world that had a chaos rebellion at one point and the Marines Malevolent were sent to aid and command 4 imperial guard regiments stationed on the planet. After being witnesses and purpotrators to civilian casualties and victim to friendly fire by the demigods they believed to be "The Emperor's own angels" 3 of the regiments had a mass mutiny of troops that defected to chaos and the 4th were given medals from the planetary government just for putting up with the Marines Malevolent without any rebellion.
“It’s not friendly fire if I don’t like them” --Brother Warcrimicus, recognised by the administratum for killing the fewest allied guardsman and civilians of any Marines Malevolent at 563.
Given how the Marines Malevolent harbor a genuine hatred for humanity I'm genuinely curious how they reconcile the fact they ultimately need humanity to provide more marine recruits.
My headcanon is that they are just how marines end up when they're disconnected from the rest of Imperial society: no homeworld to have ties to, no great legacy to live upto, no primach to guide them, no weird shame to hide. Just super soldiers with nothing but endless war and centuries of largely pointless death dealing to occupy them. They're the purest expression of what a Space Marine is: uncaring death and destruction metered out by orphans raised without culture or society beyond their own brotherhood.
I do love the "Savior Types". The darker the setting, the more I love those random "NobleBright" characters that get scattered in to give some hope spots here and there. On the other hand, you can go to such ridiculous exaggeration in either direction that it becomes fun again. And, as a lot of people have said before "Warhammer 40K used to not take itself very seriously and was almost a self-parody" so something like the Marines Malevolent fit in PERFECTLY with that vibe.
These guys are pretty much what the Iron Warriors would look like if they stayed Loyalist. They fall squarely within the “you love to hate them” slot for me.
@@discountplaguedoctor88 During the heresy as well, the Iron Warriors did not take part in Istvaan III which is where the culling of loyalists took place
Aw man, is that art of the Abominable Intelligence? (In all seriousness, TH-cam creators might really need to scrutinize their art sources more heavily)
My favourite part of the iron kingdom book is when a group of imperial historitors (or guardsmen, can't remember) are out with the marines malevolent quelling small rebellions. *major spoilers for the dawn of fire novel "iron kingdom"* so when the queen betrays the imperium and red-wedding's the entire imperial diplomatic party and the imperial knights start attacking the imperial forces, it describes the hum of engines in the distance getting closer over the hills. One of the marines says to the historitor "you should get behind me now." because they know exactly what it is with their space marine senses. Its so badass. Then they proceed to start climbing the imperial knights with their combat knives like a swarm of ants. Edit: it was the storm reapers, not the marines malevolent who fought the imperial knights. Thanks @haydenkinney5318.
That was the other space marine chapter who said that. They were probably a white scars successor and the woman the marine was speaking too was a quartermaster. But yes the Marines were the first ones to jump onto the knights.
@@haydenkinney5318 I have only read it once and can't remember everything exactly, I just remember Mordians, Historitors, And marines malevolent. I think it was the storm reapers climbing the knights. I get confused because the storm reapers were the ones who got merk'd by the knights, it was the marines malevolent who teamed up with the sisters of battle near the end of the battle of Kamidar and literally burned everything down, even prison cells holding their own allies. Very on-brand for the marines malevolent.
As a bloke that's fielded Orks since 1st Edition, these guys are maybe the only chapter of Marines I'd consider making an army of... they just represent that black-comedy, satirical aspect the game had back in the day; comedically-mean-spirited and inflexible, 100% ends-justify-the-means jerks that are apparently on the side of right and justice... it's like something from an old 2000AD strip. Like so much of 40k was and still is.
Except there are multiple chapters which still embody that cruel brutality PLUS other characteristics that make the legion stand out and look cool. The only unique thing about the Malevolent is that they're coloured like hornets. Shitty awful hornets thay nobody (not even the admech or inquisition) want around. They're baggage at best and traitor bait at worst.
I can definitely see the Marines Malevolent as an "Untouchable" chapter narratively, because it would be hard to write a story from one of their perspectives, at least, writing a long form story, and have the audience sympathize or empathize with them. On the other hand, I'd love to see them show up in a Ciaphas Cain story.
@@klaykid117 True. The one difference I see is the Night Lords are villain and occasional anti-villain protagonists. They can be psychopaths with dark humor and occasional kinda-sorta sympathetic or heroic moments yet still remain villains with a bit of tragedy behind what they were, what they are now, and how many of their better members end up. With the Marine's Malevolent, their whole thing is being on the "Good Guy" side, but still being unsympathetic and enjoyably hateable. If there were a book of them, I think it would have to be dark comedy the whole way through.
When you have an organization comprising of over a million worlds and a quadrillion people, there will be a few jerks in the bunch, pardon my sailor talk.
I like the marines malevolent. I used to think they were just assholes but as my understanding of 40k grew I have come to realize they are perfect. They always have a reason to fight. In a wargame some people like to at least imagine a reason why the little men are fighting. The marines malevolent are so hated by everyone that you don't even really need to think of a reason. You never once have to question why an imperial faction would be fighting the emperors avenging angels. The guard/sisters/mechanicus/custodes were probably just sick of friendly fire.
The fact that they haven't been hunted down after killing a Custodes, and stealing the geneseed he was guarding is honestly surprising. Granted that Custodes was all alone, but still its amazing they're still around.
I love the M&Ms. The Iron Warriors are such a vibe and to have loyalists Iron Warriors that one would assume only didn’t betray because “Traitors are weak” is nice. Plus I love the idea of the guys who have figured out how to game the imperial system without getting declared traitors. Who refuse to give up even if they have no support what so ever. Who are smart enough to loot, patch up, pirate and steal to keep fighting. They’re one of the only chapter who’ll get it done no matter the cost
I heard a funny fanmade lore bit about the Marines Malevolent that amused me and lives rent fre as my head canon: Its that all their ships have seperate walkways for mortals and marines because the marines never tell anybody to get out of the way and just walk through/over them, injuring, crippling and killing people through that and when asked why, they simply say: "If you dont scatter out of our path, its your fault for beeing suicidal." At a certain point a Marine Malevolent grows so contempt from interacting with mortals that they simply ceise all communications with them if they dont have the badges and medals to show they are worthy of the Astartes attention. Any mortal on their ships without a rank of at least a captain or above is completely invisible to them and only ranks way above that paygrade can expect to hear answers when asking them questions. The mortals on the other hand have adapted to that life by creating a completely seperate society inbetween their paths, so they can continue on living and serving the emperor. When talk to lower ranking mortals is necessary, the Malevolents use their new Aspirants as diplomats for they are also pretty "green" and worthless until they have proven their metal, meaning their time is less important and can therefor be wasted on talking with humans. And since the Aspirants want to be seen worthy in their brothers eyes, you can imagine their communication with mortals is also only reduced to a minimum. And thats how mortal life with the marines Malevolent is: Your superior gets a spartanic order: "Go there and do that." and that commander then relays it down his chain of command. when the task is accomplished there is no praise, or positive word. Its simply noted and then comes a new order "Go there do that." And you should never usher any kind of complaint to the Marines because their answer will always be: "Make due. If you cant do it, die trying." And if the mortals die on their task, its simply getting noted like a bag of missing screws and they get replaced on the next occasion.
Love this chapter, ive painted my kill team in their colours. Read the short stories enjoyed them. They are marines with grit, i like how they are the space marines that scavqnge for parts and armour weapons and equipment. Flawed heroes are more interesting than perfect poster boy Ultramarines
Chaos Worshippers: Wait, WE'RE supposed to be the Bad Guys right? Marines Malevolent and Blood Ravens: *Laughs in War Crimes and Thievery* Can you cover the Black Krakens (I think that's what they're called), a Successor Chapter of the Salamanders that are from a Water World that hunt Monsters?
Oh yeah these guys, I hear they also use high pressure water weaponry in conjunction with their standard equipment. I mean high pressure shooting water gun which can cut metal and flesh alike is awsome already, but nope these guys pumps it to another knot by having the water being hot boiling water as well. So in short, prepare to hear a lot of sauna jokes when fighting with these guys.😂
I think I found my new favorite chapter. I’ve solely been using this channel to learn about warhammer. I won’t ever play the tabletop game, but this whole sci-fi thing is badass af. But I also like them because They also don’t feel edgy. Just really really cruel. And I love their colors.
I highly recommend a video on the Celestial Lions. They are a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists, have great lore, and an amazing aesthetic. 10/10 recommendation.
I think the idea is great. A space marine chapter who not only views humanity as lesser, but actively views civillians as worthless? A space marine chapter that will not blink on blowing up a refugee camp if it takes out a horde of orks, so devoted to their task of killing the Emperor's enemies that even the Black Templars tell them to watch the friendly fire is interesting. I feel they're freat as a foil to the more idealistic chapters. Stick a Marine Malevolent and a Ultrasmurf in the same room and some refugees among whom may be a Chaos cultist, then watch the Smurf try to sus out which one is the traitor while the Marine Malevolent wants to just skip tbe whole thing and vent the civs so they dont have to risk Chaos spreading among the crew. Thatd be good. But they seem to, a lot of times, be relegated to "bully."
My homebrew chapter has a company captain (7th company specifically) that considers the Marines Malevolent as hostile combatants unless the marines Malevolent activity attempt to seek peace. Which they haven't. He considers them hostiles because 7th company sent an armor column with knight support to exfil civilians before an artillery bombardment would begin. Needless to say the CO of the marines Malevolent ordered to bombardment to begin anyway while 7th was in danger zone killing a non-negligible amount of armor and marines... So 7th captain (Kelephon) beat the MM CO into a bloody pulp.
I think a good way of writing the Marine Malevolent is as an antagonist, where the novel is from the perspective of a rebelling planet or system and you just read as the Marines Malevolent stampede through their planet to the horror of the main character
The MnMs might be nightlords successors, with the "only degrees of guilt" and all that... (Also civs are the Emperor`s must abundant currency, Mavs really are spending it in the best possible way)
As we can see, the Marines Malevolent are not liked, so much so to the point where they don’t have proper supply. I get Space Marines we’re originally intended to be more like them, but the imperium wouldn’t be able to stand if all the Space Marines acted like the MMs.
My head cannon for them is they are a Blood angels' descended chapter similar to the Lamenters. Similar to the Lamenters (Till it was retconned at least.) They do not suffer from the Black Rage or Red Thirst; however, they do have a very Jeckel and Hyde type personality going on. During peace time they are actually quite nice and like to do art, poetry, helping civilians and the like. But once they are sent into battle any amount of love and empathy just turns off and the turn into the total assholes we know and love.
Hi im the friendly, "you should read Dawn of Fire guy" Dawn of Fire The Iron Kingdom while a great Knight World book on sadness loss and betrayal... secretly a Marines Malevolant book. A Captain in the Indomitus Crusade Picked up and was secreting around a detachment of Marines Malevolent exchanging their loyalty for him supplying them with the Primaris Process and new patterns of war gear. He instructs them the prosecute a Guerilla Campaign on this Knight world to break their will to resist his commands, or kill their Command structure and gives them full rights to do whatever they want in that process. They make Planet fall near a small town and decide that their dropship being POSSIBLY spotted would harm mission security sooo itd be better if that town didnt have a population to possibly report the sighting. It only escalates from there. Really good read
okay in the badab war the salamanders have an almost identical color scheme so i see them as either a salamanders successor or an iron warriors successor
I genuienly love The Marines Malevolent. I'm so tempted to play them on Tabletop. I love the whole idea they may be Iron Warrior's successor due to their unknown gene linage,that and I like the idea the main reason they haven't been declared as Renegades or Traitors is beacuse their combat record is really good on paper,and have been declared as uncorrupted by The Inquisition.
Efficient and does not care about civilians isn't a monopoly of the Iron Warriors. This could also describe the Imperial Fists, the Iron Hands, and their successors.
The Marines Malevolent view on warfare kinda makes me wonder what it is that keeps them from falling to chaos. Seems they should be quite easy to influence 🤔
There really should be a space marine chapter that's obviously another major faction in shoddy "how do you do, fellow humans of the Imperium?" disguise, but the official lore won't come out and state this. Maybe several.
Do you guys know the anime/manga/short novel series Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki)? The Marines Malevolent are essentially what would happen when you made a space marine chapter out of exclusively Tanya clones.
I mean, the competition that comes to mind are a blood angels that takes the people they rescue to use as food and drink, or that one chapter out in the halo stars...
Would be funny if they are Salamanders successors ,just a chapter that is the complete opposite of the parent chapter. Seems to be the shtick for Salamander successors. But i can see them being one of ours.
To be fair, Perturabo and Mortarion during the Great Crusade had VERY similar battle doctrines and legion mentality that was passed onto their legions: social darwinist-esque "survival of the fittest", victory by grueling attrition at any cost (Iron Warriors - Siege & Trench Warfare, Death Guard - Heavy Assault + Biochemical Warfare), complete apathy if not disgust for civilians and non-combatants for being "weak", generally antisocial towards other Space Marine Legions, cold heartless pragmatism that becomes brutish self-sabotage because they don't know when to stop... The Malevolent Marines could be descendant from either or even BOTH of them on some level. The fact that they and the Salamanders hate each other is doubly symbolic and ironic then, because A) Perturabo actually respected Vulkan for his mechanical & engineering prowess a lot and B) Mortarion considered himself a champion of the people in Barbatus, much like Vulkan ACTUALLY was in Nocturne. Both of these Primarchs, unlike Vulkan, became utterly consumed by resentment and hatred, which the Marines Malevolent embody. Effectively, the MM are what the Iron Warriors and/or Death Guard would be like if they had remained loyalists but the Horus Heresy carried on as it did: obsessed with victory against the enemies of the Imperium and utterly consumed by hatred of everything around them over perceived weakness and failure by the people of the Imperium and their own Astartes brethren. The fact they ALSO have a sigil that is... disturbingly similar to the Emperor's Children also brings up many implications. They could be a Blackshield company composed by many deserter Marines from the Traitor Legions, thought with an Iron Warrior majority, who rejoined the Imperium but utterly shed their legions' original identity and heraldry but remained full of resentment for humans and their enemies both.
Im starting an MM project alongside another project im doing, just for some variety. Im putting them on nice pretty bases with static grass and flowers. The contrast is funny to me.
It’s important to remember that the early depictions of Space Marines being ruthless and savage was just 80s edginess. 40k was HEAVILY influenced by Dune, and the Space Marines were strongly inspired by the Sadukar and the Fedaykin, who were savage ruthless killers and the strongest fighters in that setting.
They're kind of how my homebrew operates. (Come to think of it their chapter symbol is also similar) Except mine see guard as tools. Not entirely useless and wasteful to destroy. They have more self-control basically. That said, they burned down an entire agri-world that was supplying a whole system just to keep tyranids away from the crops.
"dad dad! Look the lamenter space marines has come to save us!" "God emperor gracious son we are saved!. But. why do they look a bit off... Wait why are their chestplate isnt yello-" *Famous last word*
"They aren't hertics, they're just assholes" - the Inquisition, probably.
How is it that this video was posted an hour ago, but your comment says it was posted 7 days ago?? Weird...
Yep
Pot calling the kettle heretical here 🤣
no even the inquisition thinks they are ass@#les
Inquisition would know everything about being an asshole...
"If these alleged 'civilians' are so civil, why are they in the middle of a warzone?"--- Brother Childbombicus, Captain of the battlebarge "The Expendable Orphan"
😂😂😂😂😂
Sgt RoadKill tracking down the wahmen and the children to "evacuate" in his Rhino.
@@BillGoreArt "Beneath" his Rhino
@@bbbbKeJodddd Redundant statement. All orphans are expendable
And if they are our allies why don't they fight the enemies
Inside you, there are two yellow space marines.
One is a Lamenter.
One is a Marine Malevolent.
You should probably see a therapist.
There’s only one yellow space marine in me:
An Imperial Fist
@@LordCrate-du8zmwait if you have a space marine inside than you’re a heretic!
@@LordCrate-du8zm phrasing
Fabius Bile: "There are two wolves inside of you...
The operation was a success."
@@LordCrate-du8zmah a scammer
I have a homebrew world that had a chaos rebellion at one point and the Marines Malevolent were sent to aid and command 4 imperial guard regiments stationed on the planet. After being witnesses and purpotrators to civilian casualties and victim to friendly fire by the demigods they believed to be "The Emperor's own angels" 3 of the regiments had a mass mutiny of troops that defected to chaos and the 4th were given medals from the planetary government just for putting up with the Marines Malevolent without any rebellion.
That’s some great homebrew
“It’s not friendly fire if I don’t like them” --Brother Warcrimicus, recognised by the administratum for killing the fewest allied guardsman and civilians of any Marines Malevolent at 563.
Given how the Marines Malevolent harbor a genuine hatred for humanity I'm genuinely curious how they reconcile the fact they ultimately need humanity to provide more marine recruits.
It’s simple. You see a nearby planet. You know what you want. You take it.
Because that isn't productive.
Well if they succed they aren't humans anymore.
They are literally “I am not your savior, I am a weapon meant to kill anything in my path….you are in my path”
*"But I'll also dick over the killing machines that are on my team because Im a lil quirky today"*
Angry Marines mentioned!
SCREAMS WITH POWERBATS AND POWER BOOTS!
ALWAYS ANGRY, ALL THE TIME!
I believe in Commissar Jon Fuklaw
Everyones asking "Who are the Marines Malevolent?" but the real question is "Why are the marines malevolent?"
My headcanon is that they are just how marines end up when they're disconnected from the rest of Imperial society: no homeworld to have ties to, no great legacy to live upto, no primach to guide them, no weird shame to hide. Just super soldiers with nothing but endless war and centuries of largely pointless death dealing to occupy them. They're the purest expression of what a Space Marine is: uncaring death and destruction metered out by orphans raised without culture or society beyond their own brotherhood.
I do love the "Savior Types". The darker the setting, the more I love those random "NobleBright" characters that get scattered in to give some hope spots here and there.
On the other hand, you can go to such ridiculous exaggeration in either direction that it becomes fun again. And, as a lot of people have said before "Warhammer 40K used to not take itself very seriously and was almost a self-parody" so something like the Marines Malevolent fit in PERFECTLY with that vibe.
Bravo! Bravo sir! 🎉
These guys are pretty much what the Iron Warriors would look like if they stayed Loyalist.
They fall squarely within the “you love to hate them” slot for me.
I think they are loyalist Iron Warriors.
@@ElJorro Them, The Silver Skulls, The Minotaurs. Did you know that the Iron Warriors had the most loyalists of all the traitor legions?
@@priinceoftiime As far as SURVIVING loyalists go, true.
@@discountplaguedoctor88 During the heresy as well, the Iron Warriors did not take part in Istvaan III which is where the culling of loyalists took place
@@priinceoftiimeAlso it helps that the 4th has stable geneseed
9:29
That Astartes has six fingers on his right hand. Five fingers and a thumb.
That is a sure sign of Tzeentchian corruption.
Aw man, is that art of the Abominable Intelligence?
(In all seriousness, TH-cam creators might really need to scrutinize their art sources more heavily)
Could be artistic mistake I've done it before.@@SWProductions100
Same on his right nad.
@@BrickyMySticky You can see that, through the armor? Do you have X-Ray vision?
Inquisitor! Inquisitor!
Marines malevolents have a lot of mutants among their ranks. Having a sixth finger makes sense.
"the angry marines are a bit of a meme"
a bit
a BIT
JUST A LITTLE BIT
"Man, liking the black templars are kinda of a red flag"
>Marines Malevolent joined the chat.
My favourite part of the iron kingdom book is when a group of imperial historitors (or guardsmen, can't remember) are out with the marines malevolent quelling small rebellions. *major spoilers for the dawn of fire novel "iron kingdom"* so when the queen betrays the imperium and red-wedding's the entire imperial diplomatic party and the imperial knights start attacking the imperial forces, it describes the hum of engines in the distance getting closer over the hills. One of the marines says to the historitor "you should get behind me now." because they know exactly what it is with their space marine senses. Its so badass.
Then they proceed to start climbing the imperial knights with their combat knives like a swarm of ants.
Edit: it was the storm reapers, not the marines malevolent who fought the imperial knights. Thanks @haydenkinney5318.
That was the other space marine chapter who said that. They were probably a white scars successor
and the woman the marine was speaking too was a quartermaster. But yes the Marines were the first ones to jump onto the knights.
@@haydenkinney5318 I have only read it once and can't remember everything exactly, I just remember Mordians, Historitors, And marines malevolent. I think it was the storm reapers climbing the knights. I get confused because the storm reapers were the ones who got merk'd by the knights, it was the marines malevolent who teamed up with the sisters of battle near the end of the battle of Kamidar and literally burned everything down, even prison cells holding their own allies. Very on-brand for the marines malevolent.
Good to know
Marine Malevolent… Malevolent Marines? Coincidence? I think NOT!
As a bloke that's fielded Orks since 1st Edition, these guys are maybe the only chapter of Marines I'd consider making an army of... they just represent that black-comedy, satirical aspect the game had back in the day; comedically-mean-spirited and inflexible, 100% ends-justify-the-means jerks that are apparently on the side of right and justice... it's like something from an old 2000AD strip. Like so much of 40k was and still is.
Except there are multiple chapters which still embody that cruel brutality PLUS other characteristics that make the legion stand out and look cool. The only unique thing about the Malevolent is that they're coloured like hornets. Shitty awful hornets thay nobody (not even the admech or inquisition) want around. They're baggage at best and traitor bait at worst.
THIS IS WHAT PEAK PERFORMANCE LOOKS LIKE
PEAK MALE PERFORMANCE.
👁️👃🏻👁️
When you absolutely have to get the job done, no matter how complicated or confusing or contradicting the battle space may be!
They killed an injured Custode captain who destroyed a tyranid invasion and took their equipment.
@@patrickiamonfire965 can't blame them, nice bit of kit that is.
You know it's bad when the Inquisition themselves was like "no they are just assholes"
I can definitely see the Marines Malevolent as an "Untouchable" chapter narratively, because it would be hard to write a story from one of their perspectives, at least, writing a long form story, and have the audience sympathize or empathize with them.
On the other hand, I'd love to see them show up in a Ciaphas Cain story.
By the Emperor, that would be SO annoying for him. MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I think the writers can make it work. I mean we got an excellently reviewed Nightlords trilogy
@@klaykid117 True. The one difference I see is the Night Lords are villain and occasional anti-villain protagonists. They can be psychopaths with dark humor and occasional kinda-sorta sympathetic or heroic moments yet still remain villains with a bit of tragedy behind what they were, what they are now, and how many of their better members end up.
With the Marine's Malevolent, their whole thing is being on the "Good Guy" side, but still being unsympathetic and enjoyably hateable. If there were a book of them, I think it would have to be dark comedy the whole way through.
I am now submitting my 3rd request for a Red Scorpions video.
With love,
cool dude
I second the request.
Hear! Hear!
Who are the marines malevolent? MY HEROES OF COURSE.
0:55 The Angry Marines might -beg to differ.-
Scratch that, they don't beg.
Marine Malevolent: civilians I don’t see any civilians, all I see is good bait.
Civilians? Never heard of 'em.
When you have an organization comprising of over a million worlds and a quadrillion people, there will be a few jerks in the bunch, pardon my sailor talk.
I like the marines malevolent. I used to think they were just assholes but as my understanding of 40k grew I have come to realize they are perfect. They always have a reason to fight. In a wargame some people like to at least imagine a reason why the little men are fighting. The marines malevolent are so hated by everyone that you don't even really need to think of a reason. You never once have to question why an imperial faction would be fighting the emperors avenging angels. The guard/sisters/mechanicus/custodes were probably just sick of friendly fire.
The fact that they haven't been hunted down after killing a Custodes, and stealing the geneseed he was guarding is honestly surprising. Granted that Custodes was all alone, but still its amazing they're still around.
The custodes was trying to get them the geneseed. They can just say the things that killed his crew, killed him. No evidence.
its called bad writing. nothing amazing, no neat potential trick. no logic. just bad writing.
I love the M&Ms. The Iron Warriors are such a vibe and to have loyalists Iron Warriors that one would assume only didn’t betray because “Traitors are weak” is nice.
Plus I love the idea of the guys who have figured out how to game the imperial system without getting declared traitors. Who refuse to give up even if they have no support what so ever. Who are smart enough to loot, patch up, pirate and steal to keep fighting.
They’re one of the only chapter who’ll get it done no matter the cost
I heard a funny fanmade lore bit about the Marines Malevolent that amused me and lives rent fre as my head canon:
Its that all their ships have seperate walkways for mortals and marines because the marines never tell anybody to get out of the way and just walk through/over them, injuring, crippling and killing people through that and when asked why, they simply say: "If you dont scatter out of our path, its your fault for beeing suicidal." At a certain point a Marine Malevolent grows so contempt from interacting with mortals that they simply ceise all communications with them if they dont have the badges and medals to show they are worthy of the Astartes attention. Any mortal on their ships without a rank of at least a captain or above is completely invisible to them and only ranks way above that paygrade can expect to hear answers when asking them questions. The mortals on the other hand have adapted to that life by creating a completely seperate society inbetween their paths, so they can continue on living and serving the emperor. When talk to lower ranking mortals is necessary, the Malevolents use their new Aspirants as diplomats for they are also pretty "green" and worthless until they have proven their metal, meaning their time is less important and can therefor be wasted on talking with humans. And since the Aspirants want to be seen worthy in their brothers eyes, you can imagine their communication with mortals is also only reduced to a minimum. And thats how mortal life with the marines Malevolent is: Your superior gets a spartanic order: "Go there and do that." and that commander then relays it down his chain of command. when the task is accomplished there is no praise, or positive word. Its simply noted and then comes a new order "Go there do that." And you should never usher any kind of complaint to the Marines because their answer will always be: "Make due. If you cant do it, die trying." And if the mortals die on their task, its simply getting noted like a bag of missing screws and they get replaced on the next occasion.
I would even make the guess that they're night lords. As in that they're belcher's glands are still in tact as opposed to iron warriors
Unrepentant assholes who get off on the fact? Yeah, that tracks for the VIII.
The Scythes, aren't those the lads who have to wear Magneto helmets because they got infected by Genestealers?
Yep their homeworld was taken over by the bugs
Love this chapter, ive painted my kill team in their colours.
Read the short stories enjoyed them. They are marines with grit, i like how they are the space marines that scavqnge for parts and armour weapons and equipment. Flawed heroes are more interesting than perfect poster boy Ultramarines
The Iron Warriors would look at these guys and go "Ok you're taking it a bit too far."
Chaos Worshippers: Wait, WE'RE supposed to be the Bad Guys right?
Marines Malevolent and Blood Ravens: *Laughs in War Crimes and Thievery*
Can you cover the Black Krakens (I think that's what they're called), a Successor Chapter of the Salamanders that are from a Water World that hunt Monsters?
Dark Krakens
@@drunknnirish Thank you!
Oh yeah these guys, I hear they also use high pressure water weaponry in conjunction with their standard equipment. I mean high pressure shooting water gun which can cut metal and flesh alike is awsome already, but nope these guys pumps it to another knot by having the water being hot boiling water as well. So in short, prepare to hear a lot of sauna jokes when fighting with these guys.😂
Marines Malevolent are a problem because they have their time and place, but we tend to hear of them when its not their time and/or place
12:45 I HATE them as characters but I love them as a worldbuilding device.
They're by far my favorite, there's always a reason to fight anyone when I'm playing them.
11:26 Bro must have been fighting Slaaneshi cultists, why else would there be a mark on his codpiece 💀
HAIL THE MALEVOLENCE!
I think I found my new favorite chapter. I’ve solely been using this channel to learn about warhammer. I won’t ever play the tabletop game, but this whole sci-fi thing is badass af.
But I also like them because They also don’t feel edgy. Just really really cruel. And I love their colors.
I think these guys would look more the part of their armor. was kinda mitch matched from scavenged different marines
The perfect successor chapter doesn't exi... Oh snap, I stand corrected. Essentially Loyalist Iron Warriors how can you go wrong.
Give me a Marines Malevolent as a Death Watch Captain and I would be so happy.
“Hate is the surest weapon!”
I highly recommend a video on the Celestial Lions. They are a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists, have great lore, and an amazing aesthetic. 10/10 recommendation.
Marines malevolent is just the chapter that confirms early space marine lore, shitty space pirates
Requesting Doom Eagles for the UltraMarine episode if they haven’t been covered.
They should adopt the new Chapter Battlecry - "You're jealous because it works!! 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥💦💦" this would definitely trigger any salamander
The answer is the best Chapter. If they were Death Guard that would make sense to me I Loyalist Death Guard in Heresy.
All chapters are Dark Angels….
Marines Malevolent are the first edition marines that didn't got updated
I think the idea is great. A space marine chapter who not only views humanity as lesser, but actively views civillians as worthless? A space marine chapter that will not blink on blowing up a refugee camp if it takes out a horde of orks, so devoted to their task of killing the Emperor's enemies that even the Black Templars tell them to watch the friendly fire is interesting.
I feel they're freat as a foil to the more idealistic chapters. Stick a Marine Malevolent and a Ultrasmurf in the same room and some refugees among whom may be a Chaos cultist, then watch the Smurf try to sus out which one is the traitor while the Marine Malevolent wants to just skip tbe whole thing and vent the civs so they dont have to risk Chaos spreading among the crew.
Thatd be good.
But they seem to, a lot of times, be relegated to "bully."
Love you broski ❤ been here since 20k subs
They are like a loyal chaos warband
10:00 what do you mean theyre not branded as renegades? This one is a mutated freak with six fingers, for gods sake
My homebrew chapter has a company captain (7th company specifically) that considers the Marines Malevolent as hostile combatants unless the marines Malevolent activity attempt to seek peace. Which they haven't. He considers them hostiles because 7th company sent an armor column with knight support to exfil civilians before an artillery bombardment would begin. Needless to say the CO of the marines Malevolent ordered to bombardment to begin anyway while 7th was in danger zone killing a non-negligible amount of armor and marines... So 7th captain (Kelephon) beat the MM CO into a bloody pulp.
I appreciate the sanctioned war crimes part. I think the exact same. They are indeed quite neat.😊
I think a good way of writing the Marine Malevolent is as an antagonist, where the novel is from the perspective of a rebelling planet or system and you just read as the Marines Malevolent stampede through their planet to the horror of the main character
when you said "they re not evil, they re just mean" i tought "wow that s me " lol
I love the marines malevolent in the same way I love Shao Kahn, it’s just unbridled brutal fun to see these guys do their thing.
The MnMs might be nightlords successors, with the "only degrees of guilt" and all that...
(Also civs are the Emperor`s must abundant currency, Mavs really are spending it in the best possible way)
There is a small lore tidbit about them almost being extincted by the star phantoms. I wish that was detailed
As we can see, the Marines Malevolent are not liked, so much so to the point where they don’t have proper supply. I get Space Marines we’re originally intended to be more like them, but the imperium wouldn’t be able to stand if all the Space Marines acted like the MMs.
My head cannon for them is they are a Blood angels' descended chapter similar to the Lamenters. Similar to the Lamenters (Till it was retconned at least.) They do not suffer from the Black Rage or Red Thirst; however, they do have a very Jeckel and Hyde type personality going on. During peace time they are actually quite nice and like to do art, poetry, helping civilians and the like. But once they are sent into battle any amount of love and empathy just turns off and the turn into the total assholes we know and love.
i mean, being a filthy nurglelite, i am 100% down with the war crimes
Hi im the friendly, "you should read Dawn of Fire guy" Dawn of Fire The Iron Kingdom while a great Knight World book on sadness loss and betrayal... secretly a Marines Malevolant book. A Captain in the Indomitus Crusade Picked up and was secreting around a detachment of Marines Malevolent exchanging their loyalty for him supplying them with the Primaris Process and new patterns of war gear. He instructs them the prosecute a Guerilla Campaign on this Knight world to break their will to resist his commands, or kill their Command structure and gives them full rights to do whatever they want in that process. They make Planet fall near a small town and decide that their dropship being POSSIBLY spotted would harm mission security sooo itd be better if that town didnt have a population to possibly report the sighting. It only escalates from there. Really good read
Aren’t they credit card/ cryptocurrency scammers as well as killers
Sure. But Space marines have no real need for money. They take the money because it’s fun.
"The malevocoin is now available at all good exchanges" - Brother Fraudulus and Sgt Scammulus
I don't know, but they should be.
okay in the badab war the salamanders have an almost identical color scheme so i see them as either a salamanders successor or an iron warriors successor
I genuienly love The Marines Malevolent. I'm so tempted to play them on Tabletop. I love the whole idea they may be Iron Warrior's successor due to their unknown gene linage,that and I like the idea the main reason they haven't been declared as Renegades or Traitors is beacuse their combat record is really good on paper,and have been declared as uncorrupted by The Inquisition.
I had no idea who their primarch was. Peter turbo made soooo much sense now.
Efficient and does not care about civilians isn't a monopoly of the Iron Warriors. This could also describe the Imperial Fists, the Iron Hands, and their successors.
The Marines Malevolent aren't mean, they're just straight up evil. And that's why I love em.
The Marines Malevolent view on warfare kinda makes me wonder what it is that keeps them from falling to chaos. Seems they should be quite easy to influence 🤔
When it comes to Marines Malevolent, I agree with the Salamanders. And it's not just because I play Salamanders on the tabletop.
“Damn civilians we have another name for them, insurgents.”
There really should be a space marine chapter that's obviously another major faction in shoddy "how do you do, fellow humans of the Imperium?" disguise, but the official lore won't come out and state this. Maybe several.
I really like the way you narrate.
Do you guys know the anime/manga/short novel series Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki)?
The Marines Malevolent are essentially what would happen when you made a space marine chapter out of exclusively Tanya clones.
So, is this the most comically evil, Loyal Chapter?
Yes?
I mean, the competition that comes to mind are a blood angels that takes the people they rescue to use as food and drink, or that one chapter out in the halo stars...
I think there a iron hands successor but that’s just me cause I like the iron hands and the marines malevolent
Would be funny if they are Salamanders successors ,just a chapter that is the complete opposite of the parent chapter. Seems to be the shtick for Salamander successors. But i can see them being one of ours.
I feel like they have the most honest reaction to 40k's grimdark. They just go f*ck everything and give the entire galaxy the middle finger
To be fair, Perturabo and Mortarion during the Great Crusade had VERY similar battle doctrines and legion mentality that was passed onto their legions: social darwinist-esque "survival of the fittest", victory by grueling attrition at any cost (Iron Warriors - Siege & Trench Warfare, Death Guard - Heavy Assault + Biochemical Warfare), complete apathy if not disgust for civilians and non-combatants for being "weak", generally antisocial towards other Space Marine Legions, cold heartless pragmatism that becomes brutish self-sabotage because they don't know when to stop...
The Malevolent Marines could be descendant from either or even BOTH of them on some level. The fact that they and the Salamanders hate each other is doubly symbolic and ironic then, because A) Perturabo actually respected Vulkan for his mechanical & engineering prowess a lot and B) Mortarion considered himself a champion of the people in Barbatus, much like Vulkan ACTUALLY was in Nocturne. Both of these Primarchs, unlike Vulkan, became utterly consumed by resentment and hatred, which the Marines Malevolent embody. Effectively, the MM are what the Iron Warriors and/or Death Guard would be like if they had remained loyalists but the Horus Heresy carried on as it did: obsessed with victory against the enemies of the Imperium and utterly consumed by hatred of everything around them over perceived weakness and failure by the people of the Imperium and their own Astartes brethren.
The fact they ALSO have a sigil that is... disturbingly similar to the Emperor's Children also brings up many implications. They could be a Blackshield company composed by many deserter Marines from the Traitor Legions, thought with an Iron Warrior majority, who rejoined the Imperium but utterly shed their legions' original identity and heraldry but remained full of resentment for humans and their enemies both.
i adore the phrase "oops all warcrimes"
These guys make inquisiters look reasonable.
the Malevolent is probably the closest you can get without going rogue.
Top Contenders for the title of "Galaxy's Biggest Assholes."
Im starting an MM project alongside another project im doing, just for some variety. Im putting them on nice pretty bases with static grass and flowers. The contrast is funny to me.
w chapter
10:04 That marine has 6 fingers on his right hand, the one holding the bolter.
They're something like canonical angry marines
The marine in the artwork at 10:39 has 5 fingers and a thumb on each hand🙃
Ah, the Marines Malevolent; or as I like to call them, "The closest thing in Modern 40k to the original 1st edition Rogue Trader Space Marines.".
It’s important to remember that the early depictions of Space Marines being ruthless and savage was just 80s edginess. 40k was HEAVILY influenced by Dune, and the Space Marines were strongly inspired by the Sadukar and the Fedaykin, who were savage ruthless killers and the strongest fighters in that setting.
I had no idea about these guys. Pretty neat! Speaking of chapters that are relatively niche, you should make a video on The Exorcists!
I like to think, there actually salamander successors. It would just be funny.
It is my chapter. In 40k, they make the most sense...
They're kind of how my homebrew operates. (Come to think of it their chapter symbol is also similar) Except mine see guard as tools. Not entirely useless and wasteful to destroy. They have more self-control basically. That said, they burned down an entire agri-world that was supplying a whole system just to keep tyranids away from the crops.
"dad dad! Look the lamenter space marines has come to save us!"
"God emperor gracious son we are saved!. But. why do they look a bit off... Wait why are their chestplate isnt yello-"
*Famous last word*
So never let them and the Salamanders meet