Breeding the Best German Shepherds with Johannes Grewe and Avi Cohen - EP 102
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- If you want to know about German Shepherds, you want to talk to an expert. In Germany this is called a Körmeister. This person is an authority on breeding. Johannes Grewe is a Körmeister and Avi and I ask some tough questions on the topic of showline and working line German Shepherds.
The questions of what makes for a good German Shepherd and what dogs should we be breeding is always at the top of everyone's list. Talking with Johannes is talking to one of the foremost experts on the breed. Johannes has bred, trained, judged and lived with German Shepherds for most of his life.
Avi and I get down to the serious issues. It's a long podcast but we cover a lot of topics including the evolution of the angulated German Shepherd, the sports of IPO, IGP, Schutzhund... and so much more.
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Overall, this is one of the most informative videos you will ever see on the topic of working line and showline German Shepherds. Whether you LOVE the breed, are interested in buying a puppy or just want some really great information, this will be a valuable podcast for any lover of German Shepherds.
Johannes Grewe's resume is simply amazing...
1964 Member of the SV and OG Dorsten 23
1969 President OG Dorsten 23
1970 Kennel Name "von den weissen Bergen"
1970 Graduated State Police Canine School
1972 Graduated as SV Youth Dog Evaluator
1974 SV Leistungsrichter License
1977 Founded OG Wulfen
1977 Stephanitz Urkunde by Dr. Runawael
1978 SV Forderabzeichen by Dr. Rummel
1981 Immigration to the USA
1981 Member of Schutzhund USA
1981 Resignation as SV Leistungsrichter
1983 WUSV European Champion Ship Belgium
1984 WUSV European Champion Ship Italy
1985 WUSV European Champion Ship Hungary
1986 North American Schutzhund Champion Ship
1987 Founded Sunland Schutzhund Club
1988 WUSV World Championship Germany
1990 Kennel Name "vom Sunland"
1993 Chairperson Regional SchH Championship
1993 Chairperson USA Siegershow
1993 Breeding Award "Born in the USA"
1995 Breeding Award "Born in the USA"
1995 Chairperson Regional Conformation Show
1995 Regional Breedwarden
1996 Breeding Award "Born in the USA"
1997 Chairperson USA Siegershow
Served for 6 years at Board of USCA
1997 Appointed as first show judge for USCA
Appointed in 2002 as IPO Judge for USCA
Appointed as Koermeister for USCA
Trial Chairman and director for the 2008 WUSV World Championship Event in Cincinnati
Check out Johannes Grewe on Facebook: / johannes.grewe.39
#germanshepherd #gsd #schutzhund
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where are the pictures of avi's dog from back in the 90s?
It’s in the front. The dog that jump in front of Johannse face
This is by far my favorite podcast to date. I truly believe Mr. Cabral that these podcasts are just as valuable for German Shepards themselves as reputable breeders. The information coming from these podcasts are gold! I am new to German Shepards. I have done 3 years of research before buying my guy, but have learned more watching your podcasts than I did with independent research for 3 years. They are great to listen to in the car!!!!
I did about 5 years of research. Put a deposit for a Czechoslovakian line GSD then saw one of Roberts videos and bought a Seiger GSD instead which has working ability. This saved me a lot of heart ache.
@@Bababui69how much
Johannes back in early 90's we acquired Hondo from you, a son of your stud Don. Hondo was always a joy, the best temperament and beautiful. Thank you for the pleasure of him.
I'd like to echo Robert's sentiments Johannes, thanks for all you do for the GSD breed.
I love seeing you continue to bring Avi and Johannes onto your podcast and channel! Hearing about Johannes’ medical situation, it made me wonder if he would benefit from a customized wheelchair. Although we don’t have the same conditions, my conditions can cause very similar difficulties with mobility, holding or grasping items (like a leash), and balance difficulties (I have constant vertigo and perception issues). If he still wanted to work with dogs, at least to some degree, this could potentially allow him to heel the dog and not have to hold the leash, but, still be able to supply corrections.
Although I don’t have a wheelchair fitted to me, we were able to find one for sale that was a better fit, compared to the standard hospital wheelchairs I’ve been in. On SSI, I’m saving up for a custom wheelchair, as insurance will not cover it. Wheelchairs give me enough independence to work with animals and be outside again (I’ve been 90-100% bedridden since 13-14 years of age, and I’m 21 currently). A custom wheelchair goes a much longer way at providing that independence. I don’t know if it would work for his situation, because what benefits us are all different, but, I thought it may be worth mentioning, if it could allow him to hold onto his passion for a little longer.
I always learn so much from the guests & from the questions asked by RC. Thank you to both of your guests not only for sharing their knowledge but for also having the integrity to be honest about how they see things. I hope for improved health for Johannes. And wish Avi safe travels as he moves to his new home. May it bring him as much joy as he has brought so many of us watching these podcasts. Thank you, Robert, for all you share with us in YT-land & for sharing with us in your membership, as well. Take care, all.
it's really a pleasure. I love the work, love the videos and LOVE doing the podcasts. Glad so many enjoy them!!!
Fabulous!! I could listen to this all day!! Avi’s sense of humor is the best!!
Thank you so much for having Avi back on! I love listening to his knowledge. Best guest by far.
Center heeling is really nice for every day situations. I keep my 2 working line shepherds inside. For sure you need to keep an extra eye in the puppy stage or put them into a crate. But I feel the same for any puppy. Every content about Shepherds (German, Dutch, Belgian) is appreciated
That's a whole lot of wisdom and knowledge in one podcast!
Thanks so much for the experience..
Thank you Mr Cabral, I love when Mr. Cohen on the show good people 💪🏽💪🏽
I remember Bill Santisco and Johannes watching the world cup between Brazil and Germany back in the 90s
Been waiting for this one, thank you Avi and Robert ❤️
Not that my opinion really matters because I don’t breed GSDs… I agree 1000% with everything Mr Grew and Mr Cohen said on this podcast. It was the foundation of everything I’ve been taught with working dogs.
Tremendous !!
Thank you all 🙏
Great chat guys, thank you all. Always good to see Avi again. Sorry to hear about Johannes health, I can relate.
Robert with another fantastic Podcast. Breeding no doubt something that should be left for highly qualified professionals! 🙏
🙌 Oh my daisy's!! What a wonderful suprise 😃 Great to see /hear you Mr Avi Cohen.
Mr Johannes, 🙌 you have left me with a desire to delve more into the genetics of the working line gsd & to strive to fullfill my dogs life. Thank you. Sending you cyber hugs from 🏴👍
Mr Cabral, wowser what an episode 🙌 thank you so much 🤗👍
Great podcast, very cool to hear three very intelligent men discuss a great dog breed that holds a special place in all of our hearts.
AVI is back!!!! YEY!!!!!!! So much to learn. Let me grab a mezcal this needs to be celebrated. THANKS ROBERT, for making it possible and for sharing it with us. THANKS AVI for sharing so much from your knowledge.
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Really great podcast! Thanks to Robert’s podcast and advices I managed to get my Ferrari GSD from Germany! Finding the right breeder is so important and this really help people!!
Until traits are mapped, this is all a best guess. You can breed for looks because they are typically single gene traits. Temperament, biddability etc are complex multi-gene traits.
How far are we from having dogs built in a lab by a geneticist? Gotta be within 20 years.
@@jfkst1 They have been cloned...a lot of the 'genetics" people are talking about are probably not germ line anyway. There are a lot of other factors like maternal imprinting and epigenetic changes that really can't be bred for.
@@johniac7078 if only they could clone their life span
@@johniac7078 Even with the cloned dogs, they found that the temperament, drives, etc. were not the same, although there were some discrepancies with the physical characteristics as well.
🤣👍👍👏🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡 I listen to this like 3 times already, great info!
the podcast are getting better n better. And Avi always lights up everything around. Love his energy
I agree that beauty is subjective. And I think the working lines look better than the show lines for most if not all working dog breeds.
Love you guys talking serious business but with humility, very entertaining!
What a surprise! I've just scanned Johannes' CV and see he must come from Wulfen near Dorsten in North-Rhine Westphalia. And I am watching it right here in ... Wulfen. Grüße aussem Pott!
Thanks for podcast.
Thanks for listening
this was an excellent podcast,thanks to everyone.
I had the privilege of working with Johannesburg when he first came to this country
Love Johannes.
Amazing podcast, learned so much! I have a Border collie and a high drive 8 month old GSD female pup. They both have off switches after meals for two hours, and lay around at night with the family, but definitely spend most hours running around, working, wrestling, training or on long walks. Definitely no 🛋️ 🥔 here 😅
German Shepherds rock.
Great podcast. Tks from Brazil.
If possible topic for next podcast with Johannes: what are the best bloodlines for igp ? Which male’s are producing consistently and which females bloodline are recommended.
Would be great if you could put in the screen the working dog screen for Johannes comments.
German shepherd. My favorite dog. Thank you Avi.
Avi Cohen, The Legend 🙌 👏 💪
Thanks for your kind words 🙏🏻
It has always been the goal of Johannes to improve the breed. This man is the real deal as is Bill Santisco, his best friend.
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Great video. Very informative.
Im not sure what the odds are in America for sourcing a successful GSD. Here in AUSTRALIA the breed is absolutely destroyed. Between back yard breeding huge HD RATES there barely capable of being a pet let alone a working dog. They are driverless, nervey, and very weak temperaments.
I really enjoyed listening to you guys talk. Such an informative watch. Literally confirmed everything I think about the GSD.
I used to love the breed now i detest it. Not because of the dog but what the breeders have done to it. You can’t beat a Mali. I absolutely love the breed.
we love Avi!
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You guys are killing me.. I'm dying laughing about Avi will take the dogs with strong drive and bad nerves.. and Johannes said he had them before.. 🤣
Great show.. Thanks .. I learned a lot..
Loved it. So much respect you all folks.
My hobby breeder in Ireland has been breeding working line Shepherds for over 30 years. She has a working pack on her farm. Her dogs are absolutely stunning with great health and temperament. The are sturdy boys and girls. I researched for a long time before settling on this breeder and she vetted me as I would have hoped.
I went to Del Cono Sur in the Salt Lake area, they have GS from all around the world..curious to know your breeder and the lines they carry. I learned my boys granddads both won a VA1 award in Serbia and Argentina..he’s a serious little guy at 15 weeks, great at meeting new ppl and dogs, I’m hopeful for the future.
Great podcast, best yet.
Could you ask Johannes next time if a female GS has a small litter first time is she likely to have further small litters ? Many thanks from Ireland 🇮🇪 👍
I “went local” to a German shepherd breeder, but they seem quite ethical, and have sourced quality animals. I drove and met the mother, the father, (sire/dam) played with all the sibling puppies for an hour. I asked the breeder for advice, he liked the second most dominant pup at that time, I did too. I wasn’t looking for the biggest and most savage, (regular residential w large yard, Intermountain west area, access to wilderness) I’m going to train to the dog’s abilities and happiness and mine too. I’ve been looking at pics of my pup’s grandparents and other relatives and maybe I’m falling victim to “pretty” dogs, but they all seem fairly accomplished at various show and events. My boy at about 15 weeks is a naughty little pill, training w pros also, good food motivated sit, down, touch, place, stay, good greeting strange dogs and ppl, but I’m taking the long view as the work is an investment for a companion for the future.
I’m not understanding the “dissing” of the show line dogs, I mean, aren’t these the ones we see winning at the Schutzen events? My boy has national champions in Serbia and Argentina in his ancestors, at 15 weeks he seems great at meeting new dogs and ppl, energetic, wants to do the tug/biting stuff (I’m not trying to do that though myself, especially as he’s getting ready to teethe and I want a pro I’m already training with to help me..definitely don’t want to screw that up..) maybe it’s because I have no “true working dog” to compare him to..
Question for Joahnnes:
What are the different Feno- & Genotypes in German Shepherds?
What do you think about testing puppies for work?
In the excersise hold and bark, does the barking increase the drive or decrease stamina before the bite?
I don’t think Johannse checking on TH-cam you will have to find him on Facebook
@@avicohen6112 Thank you will do. I think your opinion also holds value. What do you think?
Avi, what were the names of the kennels you were mentioning around the 22 min mark? Thank you!
Always great content
Avi is baaaaaack!!
Wish i had 10 percent of Avis knowledge...im 52 and had GS since i was 9 yrs old...looking for my next one soon...Avi help me get a good pup lol
Great podcast, Avi is always great to listen to. My question for Avi and Johannes, Have the German Shepherds improved for police dogs as much as they have for the sport? I have found it really hard to find one for police work, as the environmental soundness is not very strong. Yes, I have had pups from 8 weeks up getting the exposures, but still find some major issues. I have tried pups from some of the "top" sport kennels and people you mentioned in this podcast, and not much luck. This is not a breed specific problem, just wondered if you could steer me in the right direction for certain bloodlines to look for.
Mike you have to look a lot or you do what all of us doing. Getting 1 year old and knowing for sure that he is perfect for what you need. I can get you some names and contact in Europ
@@avicohen6112 I understand and agree with what you are saying, my question then is why is it one should have to look at a lot with all the breeding that has been done, why is there so much inconsistency? I am not talking about the backyard breeders, I have had pups from Bundessieger winners, and same thing--WEAK nerves. Dogs that can't go into a dark room, have problems with stairs, gunshots, etc...
@@mikestogsdill7353 this is the same question that we all have.
It is a deep knowledge shared. Congratulations
These guys would love my dogs and when they have pups ill sell you guys one and you will see how amazing these gsds are! I love your videos always watching
Yes I the German Shepherd may not be as aggressive as the Malinois I feel the Shepherd is a better all around dog.
I would personally love to see a podcast with you two and Marko Koskensalo and Sarah Prelle! That would be awesome!
Hi Robert,
jetzt habt ihr mal über den Rücken der DSH's gesprochen. Könnt ihr bei nächster Gelegenheit über DDR bzw. ostdeutsche Schäferhunde sprechen?
Auf den Meisterschaften sehe ich tatsächlich nur die Westdeutschen. Ich würde gerne von euch hören, ob es nur Politik und Geschmack ist, oder ob es eurer Meinung nach tatsächlich andere Gründe hat, warum man nur Westdeutsche auf den Meisterschaften sieht. Mein Stand ist, dass die DDR Schäferhunde grundsätzlich robuster sind. Daher find ich es zumindest fragwürdig warum nicht mehr der erfolgreichen Wettkämpfer auf solche Linien zurückgreifen.
Grüße aus Deutschland :)
I think when we talk about Bob vd Wilddieben who is Henk von Gut Korten son the typical phenotype is in the line. Henk produced females mostly looking like him. My female out of Henk has big strong head, typical shape.
"You cut your loofa!" What a Crack up!
Good luck with your move Avi
Thanks 🙏🏻
Avi is the best!!
Thanks for your kind words 🙏🏻
I'm overwhelmed with dad jokes😭😅
Another great interview Robert. I have a question for you, what is the most durable flex leash to use? I am currently training a 60 pound Pitbull.
Beauty is as beauty does. Form and function! The GSD is first and foremost a working dog. The show dogs and the working dogs of the breed should not be as separated as they have become.
Fantastic podcast! Question: Will a show shepherd still be a good personal guard dog? For example: when in the house will they bark when a stranger comes to the door or on your property? Or have their temperaments drastically changed (more placid) in the past while?
Of course 100%
@@avicohen6112 Thank you so much Avi! I love it when you are on the podcasts because I learn something new every time. 👍🏻
Barking doesn’t mean it’s good protection dog at all. Scared dogs also bark.
100% truth!!!
We are seeking two of the Best German Shepherds puppies in the world. Can have Johanas Cohen give us some recommendation. Thank you for your assistance.
Johannes, you mentioned " thank God". I encourage you to read Romans chapter 1 in the bible
Both male and female need to have a good temperament and be healthy without any mental illness. Also have engery or prey drive that you want.
“Mickey mouse” 😂
Ah............the character of the dog................oh the GSD has SO MUCH CHARACTER, DRIVE, INTEREST in LEARNING and INCREDIBLE STABILITY and NERVES.
Angulation isn’t a normal characteristic. When you distribute structural balance weighted to the front and not equal to the rear you loose power in the dog. In my opinion a strong ass In balance to the front with a more level top line is proper structure. Go to the wolf for your answer.
What is his kennel called?
Del Alemania
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Estructura, caracter, drives y nervios :o)
Genetics can only succeed in the right hands and correct environment. I was personally told by the breeder, "Don't take that dog, he's too friendly" So called "soft" He has become the most powerful personal protector. In certain conditions, genetics can be awakened by perfect union. Science is part of life: vision is what guides science. The perfect dog doesn't exist. The perfect relationship, and ability is key. I remember Avi saying one day, "He tried to breed with one top rated bitch in the world, unfortunately the off spring had hip problems" Genetics without sensing the bitch's emotions can give an unstable litter. Our neighbour purchased a top dog from a reputable breeder. That dog is highly reactive. He thought it was protection, until I came in front of her and worked her. She became tame. Knowledge and intuition goes hand in hand.
Money corrupts everything
Years ago, I was once kindly asked to leave a dog store in LA. I had a German working breed with me but was told that it was giving an Auschwitz survivor a panic attack. I immediately complied but felt bad...as if I was being looked at as a Nazi simply for having a German dog.
Johannes is my ex father in-law. It's heartbreaking to me, to see his health condition. If you can read this comment Johannes, I encourage you to study the bible for yourself and remove anything you've been taught. Revelation 14:12 keep the commandments of Yah and have faith in the Messiah.
roach back - so sad to see GSD looking like that
Great video