@_ToastyTTV_ I know it wasn't said to me, but I would cry so bad bro. I'm VERY emotional for this game, and after getting back my world that I was playing 24/7 months ago I bursted with tears and couldn't stop, and the music helped my tears to fall even more
I personally like the expansiveness and abundance of resources in new caves with the added danger of swarms of hostile mobs. I like how there's no end cause it gives far more freedom to explore which that's what Minecraft is all about. It up to you to decide what to do. Will you build up to reach the ores on the ceiling? Will you explore the caves by flying with elytra wings? Will you build a massive base in one of the open caves? With the newer caves there's so many more options and that is why I think they're better.
The problem with that freedom is that all caves are like that, missing the feeling of novelty of finding a huge cave. In the old generation of caves we never realized the disadvantages of large caves in mineral mining because large caves were very rare. Now that huge caves are everywhere, we realize how uncomfortable it is to mine in them.
Yeah, old caves were cool. I'd seal off the paths I looted, and then I would put a sign outside the cave to label it as a tunnel or whether it's sealed.
I also hate new caves mining in old caves felt like going through a dungeon but now they are so big that I can't even get to the ores because they are higher or just invisible
I completely agree. But, we have to accept that the game in that state is long gone, and the route they are taking it is not for us old players, it’s for the next generation to come.
@@joffedy I am not even an old player I started playing in 2020 when caves were similar to the caves in beta, when mojang announced caves and cliffs update I was really excited for it but month before it realised I asked myself if I could imagine playing with the new terrain but I couldn't, then I started to play beta and I liked it way more than 1.18
@@Lucky_Pony1 Oh wow no way, that’s crazy to hear. It’s good to see though that new players also share the same sentiment I do toward the game and how great it used to be.
I like how a part of the community claims they're adding to much content and the other part says they're adding too little content. And both are right lol
I feel like a lot of the new caves still do end. And they still have a lot of caves that are like the old caves. I just really like the look of the caves and I just really like how it’s easier to get resources. It’s good for more inexperienced players. I really think they’re just better for different players then they were before.
I miss being able to mine tunnels somewhat fast with like iron or diamond pickaxe. Now once you get deep enough the deep slate and basalt mines so much slower than stone. I forgot to mention that in the video.
For me the old caves may be nostalgic but I always feel like I’m on more of a grand adventure now when I explore the updated caves and overall world generation. Older caves tended to feel pretty samey and boring after exploring just a few, and when I go back to pre-1.18 versions I just don’t feel as exited to go mining/caving as I do on versions post-1.18.
Imo the cave update would have been better if they had decided to build upon the old narrow caves instead of scrapping them for something totally different Just as an example maybe instead of caves being made of 100% stone from beginning to end, they'd only be so between y= 60 and y= 40, then change to polished granite between y= 40 and y= 20 and then change to polished diorite between y= 20 and y= 0. This goes a long way on making cave exploration feel fresh and exiciting (also btw I got this idea from the Better than Adventure mod lol, so I highly recommend checking it out) I feel like the update turned caves into something not necessarily worse, but still completely different. And I don't think it was necessary to change them that much
The part about the new caves being complex is kinda why I like the caves, but that's just me being biased (I started playing at the end of 2022). Also, I like going and finding a big cave with high ceilings. It just looks magnificent. (I also don't bother with stacking up to get ores on the ceiling unless it's diamonds lol). However I respect you senior players of the game. I'm sure if I started playing back when I first heard of the game, I'd probably feel the same way. Back then I judged it hard, because I didn't understand what could be fun about playing a game made of blocks. For me, it's something about building stuff around my world and making it look nice that's kinda therapeutic.
These new caves suck mostly because they're way too big, there's so many mobs that keep on spawning, and they're way too common. If there was like 5-10 of these caves in a huge chunk radius then it'd be fine, but jesus christ every single other time I go down I find a trillion of these huge caves.
Nowadays I spend more time mining coal for all those hundreds of torches (spawnproofing) than actually exploring caves. And yeah Netherite was a big mistake.... At the same time I can't truly warm up to beta 1.7.3 because it just lacks too many QoL features that were already there when I started playing (FOV slider, free buttonmapping, crouching while mining, all manner of accessibility settings, etc.) So I still stick to newer versions. The new ore distribution is cool, but it only works for iron, all the other ores are stuck either only low down or only high up - they should all be found on either side of the extreme at varying y levels imo. All in all my favourite version has to be 1.8, it still had the feeling of isolation and "Minecraft-iness while being more polished than Beta.
I think I might have to agree with you on 1.8 being my favorite. That’s the one I’ve spent by far the most time on, especially on servers like Hypixel and all of that. The last update before the combat update was implemented, it was so much fun.
I do agree, old cave generation was classic and nostalgic, but when I look at the new generation as a whole it just seems beautiful. Both above and below ground look so much nicer.
I agree looks wise, but conventionally, new caves just are so much more of a pain to navigate and have far too many ores in them to where you can’t appreciate the ones you do find anymore.
@@joffedy a pain to navigate? So a big open box is harder to navigate than randomly generated noodles?! Also "you cant appreaciate ores anymore" WTF DO YOU MEAN? "Ah yes back in the day i went on a romantic date with each and every piece of iron ore i found". Also I apreaciate iron way more than I used to because it has WAY more uses now than it did back then
9:45 A little mix up of the order of events: Microsoft bought Minecraft BECAUSE Notch wanted to leave first. He asked for somebody to buy it from him an Microsoft accepted HIS offer.
yeah I get it The thing about new caves that I don't like is that they are so big that you can very easily get lost and like you always feel bad when you leave a spot unchecked
So some counter points One: mending made diamonds useless not the cave update, once you made armor and tools you'd never need diamonds again. Point two: strip mining existed for ages that would last hours with infinity diamond that is just mining in a straight line, Third point it's impossible to get lost mining, place a Lodestone (even stronger point if you upgraded diamond then you should have one) then make a compass then click the compass on the Lodestone go mining then find a way or dig a way out and use the compass and boom never lost again 4th: diamond uses if you have so many, beacons, and even armor trims will eat up diamonds so quick that you will always have a use for them.
I get your points, it’s more of preference for me personally, and my own personal views on it all, as you have as well. Diamonds just lost a lot of their value in general since the old days and that’s just a fact, we will never get that same excitement we used to when finding diamonds ever again.
@@joffedy "it's more of preference for me", "that's just a fact". Pick one, is it your opinion or are you trying to state this as a fact? And how have diamonds lost their value? They have exactly the same amount of uses if not more than they did before. If anything there's vastly more things to use your diamonds on.
@@grimms8783 It’s a bit of both, not only do I prefer old caves, but diamonds have also lost value. They have been replaced completely by netherite, they are no longer the top commodity, nor are they rare enough for anyone to actually have excitement when finding them anymore. It’s like when anything loses value, there’s less of a desire for it.
@@joffedy my personal view people said that extract thing 2016 with mending then people got over it and moved on, and then in 2019 the pillage and village update made you able to just get infinite diamond tools that are enchanted from villagers before the cave update. Just to think about only 82 diamonds (barley over a stack) was all you needed for every diamonds item you'd ever need (tools & armor & enchanting table/jukebox,) then mend your gear and they will never break. then no more need for diamonds all before the cave update. From my experience I've been searching for diamonds all the time even yesterday because duplicating my template left me with none and that's only for 1 template style I found for my armor, and because of the reduced air exposure of diamonds they are still tricky to get a lot of unless you strip mine which has been a strat sence diamonds were added. And most of Minecraft direction with all of these updates was by Jeb who was leading the game mostly sence 2012.
@@DemonKonijntjeAsh I never had an issue with mending, as it’s not as easy to come by, most of the time I still had to mine more diamonds for a while to keep replacing tools and armor before I got mending on it all. Mending on every piece you owned was an endgame thing, so anytime before that you still had to keep finding diamonds. I think the argument of diamonds for armor trim is just unnecessary as well, trims are completely cosmetic. Useless. The only real use for diamonds that can be argued is for beacons and to make enchantment tables. Other than that they’ve lost all their value, they are no longer the best when it comes to armor or weaponry, and everything else you can do with them just has no point to it.
@@piotrprochot Nostalgia does play a factor to some degree, but when so many people are going back and staying there after playing the new game, many of which that have never even played the old versions, it starts to not become nostalgia anymore.
@@joffedy I get what you mean. Although I still think that new caves are great but it took too long to get them. They've just recently caught up with 1.17. We only are short of bundles now. But 3 years? seriously. That's outrageous
I hate how you can't just go strip mine at Y12 now. Iron, coal ans such are at different levels. And caves are so huge and never end. I miss old caves too. Good video :)
The new cave generation, I like it is cool and feels more real But I miss the old cave generation because it was easier to mine Now the caves are so massive. I have to build pillars to get the best resources, because always the best resources are on the top of the cave
Me too I miss old cave I miss old villager I miss zombie pigman I miss old bat I miss old fish I miss old rose I miss old vex and I miss old Minecraft 😢
Take a shot every time he brings up the past; it's a fun drinking game. You won't enjoy this game if you keep clinging to your nostalgia like that; you will never get back there. 'Oh no, the game is losing its simplicity! Minecraft is ruined!' is just an excuse to whine that a game you played as a kid doesn't feel the same. Move on.
Don’t know why you’re so angry, but I mentioned multiple times in the video on top of the nostalgia points that it wasn’t just nostalgia, players that never even played those versions are going back and also saying it was better.
Honestly Minecraft Survival has become less exciting, maybe because of the mechanics, even if i play Hardcore, i don't get that exciting feeling even if I beat the Dragon, because you could just literally finish the game within the first to the third day.
Yeah I know, and a lot of that stems from ores being way too easy to find too many of them, you get so geared up so quickly, there’s not really much of a point of playing for a long time through the whole cycle of the game, aside from just building of course
How is it easier to get diamonds now a days? They're further down in generation and if you want to bring up villager trading you'd need to level up a specific type of villager all the way and trade the emeralds to buy that suit of armour which also has a random enchant you might not even want. If anything it's vastly easier getting diamonds back in the day because all I need to do is mine down to lava lake level and walk around lava filled caves and I'll probably have half a stack by the time I leave. Now it's harder to get to the diamond level and because of the new cave generation doesn't always ensure that I'll be able to easily find said diamonds.
@@grimms8783 I don’t know what game you’re playing nowadays, but just because they are lower doesn’t mean they are harder to find. In any cave nowadays at diamond level you will come out of them with a minimum of a stack if you explore the whole cave. Caves back in the day weren’t even big enough most of the time to have 32 diamonds in them, you’d be lucky to even get a full set.
@@joffedy "Just because they're lower doesn't mean they're harder to find", yes it does, on a fundamental level. If something is further away from you it's harder to reach. It's a basic fact. Also you could most definitely get a lot of diamonds in old caves considering they didn't end either, they constantly looped into other cave systems and you just have to stay at Y=11 to get stack on stack of diamonds. The only difference in diamond generation between old and new is that old was consistent and regular with smaller yield while nowadays it's inconsistent with bigger yields, making finding diamonds statistically harder due to a lower mining level and sparser chances while giving a higher reward when you do find them.
@@grimms8783 Mining within tens of blocks down just to find a massive cave with hundreds of diamonds in it does not by any means make them harder to find. The difference between strip mining at Y=11 and a massive underground cave is the fact that you could get a decent amount of diamonds in a short time strip mining, but sometimes it takes forever to get any. Whereas any cave nowadays that is low enough will give you a guaranteed few hundred without you having to dump any time in. Strip mining was a gamble on if you were going to get diamonds, new caves are not.
8:00 maybe im just misunderstanding your point but did you just say that minecraft should have died because things are not the way you like it anymore? even though u can still play basically every single version?
I think the longer time goes on, the more tarnished the game’s legacy becomes. They had a perfect product and most would agree with that, the same cannot be said nowadays, I think most people have strayed away from the game that used to hold it so highly. At the end of the day it’s just my opinion, you can take it if you’d like, it’s not serious like that, I just wanted to rant a bit😂
I don’t know about you, but mining absolutely SUCKS. About a month ago I started a hardcore world in 1.8, because I was hearing about all the hype about old minecraft being better etc etc. and I played it for a while, but then realised I had literally spent half the time on the game mining, only to ever find one small vein of diamonds. Like seriously man, what the FUCK is fun about that. Either getting lost in caves for no reward or strip mining for hours for very little reward is shit. And I thought all this was fine until me and my friends started a server on the latest version, and I realised with the new caves there’s so much more to explore and mining no longer takes up your whole entire fucking life. Also no one mines until they finish the cave, they mine until they have the stuff they need, tbh I think you were just trying to think of an argument on that one
I love the boring painstaking parts of Minecraft. It’s good contrast to the rest of my life as everything is always moving so fast, there’s always so much going on. It’s nice to just sit down and be “bored” for hours on end. The “boring” parts are the most fun for me, and I wasn’t just making up an arguments, I did use to mine to the end of caves, and then I’d stop mining after I finished them. I can’t do that anymore, there’s rarely ever an end to a cave, and I can never mine every ore out of any of them.
@@joffedy its fine to feel that way but you phrase everything in your video as though it was a fact (thats really hammered home when you literally say "they should stop making new minecraft versions because the old ones are undeniably better"), when in reality, its probably just you and a very small handful of people that feel that way.
You’re goddamn right. Initially, for me, the Nether update was the worst update ever. That was until the caves and cliffs update, which made all current versions unplayable for me, and mainly due to a reason that no one seems to be touching on. Mining used to be simple; you would dig down to Y level 12 or thereabouts, and just dig. All the ores could be found at once. Nowadays however, I if one needs iron, he has to mine at a seperate level just for that, which has made mining much more inefficient and tedious. I have to mine more just to get the same amount of ores I used to get. When mining too, or even cave diving, you get to a depth where coal is rarer than diamonds. Usually, you would craft torches with the coal you would find along the way…but now? Like I’m sorry, I’m not setting up a mine just for coal. Worst update in history. I have rediscovered Beta 1.7.3 recently and I haven’t looked back. It is so much better than modern Minecraft. (I started playing in 2010)
My thoughts summed up perfectly, you are so right about everything you said, I didn’t even think about that part of mining when making the video but you’re so correct
@@an_mln I understand that, but from a conventional standpoint, I view the old caves as much better. I agree that they have more content and look very nice, I’m just a simplicity fan, I enjoy a more calming, somewhat bland gameplay loop.
@@joffedy then why'd you say they should stop updating the game? pick one. you can't say "its fine for people to like the new version" whilst also saying "they should stop making the new updates because the old ones are definitively better". that's just not how that works. you can't phrase everything in the video like its an undeniable fact and then walk it back in the comments when people call it out. its lame and proves that your not actually sure about what you're saying. if you're going to be saying the "modern versions suck and they should stop making them" then you can't also say "but its fine if people like the modern versions" - those two are complete opposites. just pick one opinion and stop being hypocritical of the other in the comments.
@@joffedyhe's right. The game was bland. You just prefer bland gameplay and that's your personal preference. Most people like the modern version a lot more.
@@joffedy well thats completely wrong. it has nothing to do with "old minecraft being better and having a better direction", and everything to do with Mojang having poor communication with the community. shit like mob votes and mediocre updates (1.20) was why the community was getting so mad, not the direction of the game. more people are playing the game than literally ever before, and its not 'bad direction" that's making people mad, its a lack of delivering on features that were promised and underdelivering features that they put in the game (archaeology). lots of people are going back to old versions for nostalgia, not gameplay. most people still think old minecraft is just a dumbed-down version of new minecraft, so its clearly not for "gameplay" that they're going back, its for the nostalgia. also the only reason "minecraft is the biggest game ever" is because people like the new direction more. most people who are currently playing the game started after microsoft bought mojang so its clearly not the old direction that got them playing the game.
New caves are better. The old ones are claustrophobic and harder to find ores. Finding stuff in new caves is easier after they made ores better and more efficient to find.
It’s too easy imo, too many ores, the game holds your hand to much and spoils you too often, the difficulty of finding ores back then made it so much more rewarding when you finally did.
@@joffedyyou being slow at finding ores is not my damn problem. Ores are only ever so slightly easier to find. Stop complaining because you can’t put effort into finding something.
Cave arent limited wtf you on about? Do you seriosly enjoy strip mining to get diamonds rather than exploring? The new caves are more fun to explore too, rather than just walking through the same tunnels that all look the same. You can still put torches as indicators of where you were, its just that you need more of them. Not to mention that even before the nether update the community was BEGGING for a cave update. You could always bumb up gamma so you didnt need torches, that was alsways in the game. Torches are still useful provided you dont outright cheat by changing the gamma settings. you are essecialy complaining that cheating makes a part of the game obsolete, DUH NO SHIT! "Boring in a fun way" care to explain how??? "so many people are going back to the old versions and staying there" *shows 1 clip from 1 guy* "It was a better game" are you high? There hasnt been a time in the history of this game in which exploring was more fun, in which resources werent a chore, but actually fun to collect (execpt netherite but even that is easier to collect than diamonds before the cave update) "people who are just now playing that version are saying its better" WHOOOOO????!!!!!!! "minecraft was better just being a simple game" yeah because god forbid we have better terrain generation now, its too complex it has... TALL MOUNTAINS?!?!?!?!?!? (ps: the only thing old generation had that was better where the occasional floating islands) "its should've" you want a game to die because it changed... bro... "it changed the industry" its still does. What do think sparked the idea of the "forever game". Minecraft did. Constant free updates created the idea that a game could be updated forever rather than just releasing sequels. "when minecraft started being everyone else we started loosing it" Guess what? Games like stardew valley also get regular updates. ":< i hate the new minecraft, i wish i could go back to mining in a straigh line for hours :
First of all, I’m not reading all of that, you are taking a video game far too serious. I made this video in like an hour total and just spoke my mind about a thought I was having in the moment. I still enjoy the old caves, I still play the old versions, it’s not just nostalgia, there are many others in the community right now doing the same. It’s okay that I don’t like the route they took the game, you’re entitled to think otherwise. It is genuinely not deep enough though to where it deserves a multi-page scripture in a TH-cam comment section. I can’t speak for everyone else in the community and what they are doing or what updates they wanted so badly, but I can speak for myself, I never wanted change.
@@joffedy 1. I made that in 15 minutes just following along with your video 2. my problem is that you are saying the old versions are BETTER (you never said thats just your opinion you stated it as fact) with reasoning thats pulled out your ass 3. its a 5 minute read
@@RandoART2023 1. Still not reading it. 2. You still care too much. 3. I don't have to say "in my opinion" for it to be my opinion. I believe it as fact, and I'm allowed to speak my mind on what I believe. It's not supposed to be an argument, it was just a short little video speaking my mind, and you typing pages against me isn't going to change the fact of what I believe.
@@joffedy ok so: 1. If you wont read my comment stop replying like you know what points you should be defending. You didnt address anything i said, instead you just pulled out the "its just my opinion" when the video is clearly saying that that opinion is fact. 2. You are allowed to speak your mind just as much as i am allowed to disassemble and critique every point you make while speaking your mind 3. If you belive something like its a fact (1.7.3 > than any new version) and then make a video saying that you are right, you cant just say "oh im just speaking my mind" to avoid all critisism. Also "It's not supposed to be an argument", then why do you have 2 arguements in the video defending your point? 4. "you care too much" I honestly dont give a shit about what version you like, everyone has a different preference. What I do give a shit about is you coming out and saying 1.7.3 is the only good version and that everyone elses prefered version is shit compared to yours and then on top of that using arguements so bad I can only compare them to arguements for flat earth. Your awful reasoning is whats firing me up so much, not your prefrence 5. The only reason I am typing "pages" isnt to change the fact you like 1.7.3, its to change the fact you think its objecticaly better in everyway to newer versions, which it isnt
@@joffedy i was being nice in my other comments i made but i just read this reply and realized that you're actually just being a piece of sh*t. the fact that you made a reply to someone with the most 12 year old "i ain't reading all that" response and then started trying to defend yourself about your points without even bothering to read the actual comment just proves your a bad human being. you think that you're always correct and that whenever someone disagrees with you that their opinion is invalid because of it. you put other people down and tell them that your opinion is fact because its your opinion and that their opinion isn't worth being seen because it disagrees with you. you then try and pretend like you value other peoples opinions by saying "well its just your opinion" but as soon as they start to disagree with you and try to validate their opinions you just tell them to go f**k themselves. i realize now that you're probably a narcissist and that you don't actually care what these people think, so thanks for "speaking your mind" and then telling other people that they can't because they disagree with you.
You can easily just play older versions. There is no point in not updating Minecraft when you can just do that and other players can enjoy modern Minecraft. You are basicly asking for the Mojang to to stop the fun for those players while youself gain nothing from it. Also, diamonds are less exciting now because of villagers. Diamonds have stopped feeling special long before Caves and Cliffs. Netherite actually made them somewhat more valuable again. Iron also became unintresting because of iron farms. Modern Minecraft is great, it just needs a rebalancing. A lot of things need to be rarer.
@@joffedy and that's because old minecraft wasn't better. its the version i go back to the most but it is undeniably not a "better version of the game". its an unfinished version and it is charming, but its shit as an actual "game". its still good as a sandbox but there wasn't really much of a "game" yet since it is (as it says in the version name) a BETA version
They’re not horrible it’s just nostalgia I mean sometimes it can be annoying. Think of this. If you’re having a cavern you could build an entire city underground you could build a giant cabin underground. You couldn’t do that when the old So I don’t hate them. I just think it’s nostalgia.
It’s not just nostalgia, it’s just a preference, I’ve been playing the old game and the new game recently and I just genuinely enjoy one more than the other.
This is what one flaw in the Minecraft community, EVERYONE wanted BIGGER and BETTER caves and now there are people wanting the old ones back? i dont get it. the community just wants more, and more, same with the mob votes.
I not really a part of the Minecraft community and haven’t been for a while, just a casual player who just wanted the game to stay the best it was, while being also open to new things to come
one of the worst takes ever, if you hate the newer updates, just play in the older versions my guy, saw this one comment stating the nether update was the worst despite it adding so much to the game but if all you love and enjoy is a bland experience in the name of "relaxation experience" then go ahead. And about the diamonds, i steel feel that they hold high value especially with the introduction of trims and their duplication so thats that. But the sole thing i agree upon in this video is the negative feeling of leaving some spots in the cave unchecked.
I never said I hated any version, and you didn’t watch until the end clearly as I said just that. I said it may be time for people like me to finally just hang up new Minecraft and take a trip back to order versions. Also, it’s not just a take, it’s just how I feel, you are more than allowed to feel however you’d like toward the topic, but don’t bring me down for feeling the way I do.
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There’s no worse feeling than leaving a cave and having no idea where you are
I’d always just make a new house somewhere else and give up on the last when that happened
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@@joffedy minecraft beta 1.7.3 is trash and buggy
@_ToastyTTV_ I know it wasn't said to me, but I would cry so bad bro. I'm VERY emotional for this game, and after getting back my world that I was playing 24/7 months ago I bursted with tears and couldn't stop, and the music helped my tears to fall even more
I actually like getting lost. It gives a sense of adventure.
Come on people we all wanted a cave update now we want the old caves back
I did not want the cave update, I never had a problem with the old caves.
@@joffedy the new caves suck so bad its so hard :/ i wish there was mod to bring old caves back
I personally like the expansiveness and abundance of resources in new caves with the added danger of swarms of hostile mobs. I like how there's no end cause it gives far more freedom to explore which that's what Minecraft is all about. It up to you to decide what to do. Will you build up to reach the ores on the ceiling? Will you explore the caves by flying with elytra wings? Will you build a massive base in one of the open caves? With the newer caves there's so many more options and that is why I think they're better.
I get that, there are definitely positives to the new update as well. It’s just more preference I presume.
@@joffedy yup, though the old caves do make me feel nostalgic. I like to go to older minecraft versions sometimes just to experience them again.
The problem with that freedom is that all caves are like that, missing the feeling of novelty of finding a huge cave. In the old generation of caves we never realized the disadvantages of large caves in mineral mining because large caves were very rare. Now that huge caves are everywhere, we realize how uncomfortable it is to mine in them.
i ca really relate to the point where you said something about satisfaction of clearing a cave in the old versions
I know right! It’s just the most tedious thing to do nowadays and leaves you more aggravated than full of joy.
Yeah, old caves were cool. I'd seal off the paths I looted, and then I would put a sign outside the cave to label it as a tunnel or whether it's sealed.
I would do the same exact thing too 😂
I also hate new caves mining in old caves felt like going through a dungeon but now they are so big that I can't even get to the ores because they are higher or just invisible
I completely agree. But, we have to accept that the game in that state is long gone, and the route they are taking it is not for us old players, it’s for the next generation to come.
@@joffedy I am not even an old player I started playing in 2020 when caves were similar to the caves in beta, when mojang announced caves and cliffs update I was really excited for it but month before it realised I asked myself if I could imagine playing with the new terrain but I couldn't, then I started to play beta and I liked it way more than 1.18
@@Lucky_Pony1 Oh wow no way, that’s crazy to hear. It’s good to see though that new players also share the same sentiment I do toward the game and how great it used to be.
I like how a part of the community claims they're adding to much content and the other part says they're adding too little content.
And both are right lol
It just needs to be the right content and they need to find what they originally founded the game on and lean more into that again.
I honestly feel like the excitement people would get from finding diamonds has completely vanished nowadays, it's insane.
That’s what I’m saying, and nothing can beat that dopamine rush we all used to get.
At least now we get excited after finding ancient debris
Why? There isn't less uses of diamonds and there is almost same amount od dia per chunk.
I feel like it was inevitable, regardless of who would’ve owned Minecraft eventually some update would bring items better than diamond
It's not really insane. There's only so many times you can experience something until it becomes dull.
I feel like a lot of the new caves still do end. And they still have a lot of caves that are like the old caves. I just really like the look of the caves and I just really like how it’s easier to get resources. It’s good for more inexperienced players. I really think they’re just better for different players then they were before.
I get that, I just think they are far too easy now and I do agree on the point of them looking good.
The only thing on my mind that i find annoying is mining a tunnel and running into water everywhere.
I miss being able to mine tunnels somewhat fast with like iron or diamond pickaxe. Now once you get deep enough the deep slate and basalt mines so much slower than stone. I forgot to mention that in the video.
For me the old caves may be nostalgic but I always feel like I’m on more of a grand adventure now when I explore the updated caves and overall world generation. Older caves tended to feel pretty samey and boring after exploring just a few, and when I go back to pre-1.18 versions I just don’t feel as exited to go mining/caving as I do on versions post-1.18.
Imo the cave update would have been better if they had decided to build upon the old narrow caves instead of scrapping them for something totally different
Just as an example maybe instead of caves being made of 100% stone from beginning to end, they'd only be so between y= 60 and y= 40, then change to polished granite between y= 40 and y= 20 and then change to polished diorite between y= 20 and y= 0. This goes a long way on making cave exploration feel fresh and exiciting (also btw I got this idea from the Better than Adventure mod lol, so I highly recommend checking it out)
I feel like the update turned caves into something not necessarily worse, but still completely different. And I don't think it was necessary to change them that much
I agree, and I will check out that mod for sure! Thank you for the recommendation!
Nope! You're biased and nitpicking. I win, bye bye!
The part about the new caves being complex is kinda why I like the caves, but that's just me being biased (I started playing at the end of 2022). Also, I like going and finding a big cave with high ceilings. It just looks magnificent. (I also don't bother with stacking up to get ores on the ceiling unless it's diamonds lol). However I respect you senior players of the game. I'm sure if I started playing back when I first heard of the game, I'd probably feel the same way. Back then I judged it hard, because I didn't understand what could be fun about playing a game made of blocks. For me, it's something about building stuff around my world and making it look nice that's kinda therapeutic.
I get all of that, the caves also definitely do look good, I’m just not a huge fan of the conventionality.
These new caves suck mostly because they're way too big, there's so many mobs that keep on spawning, and they're way too common. If there was like 5-10 of these caves in a huge chunk radius then it'd be fine, but jesus christ every single other time I go down I find a trillion of these huge caves.
And that was sort of my point when it came to them being “neverending”. There are just far too many
Geez. This video is so silly. How does it have so many bad arguments
ikr, he just makes up arguments so he can say "its not just nostalgia, old Minecraft was better" even though that makes literally no sense
Nowadays I spend more time mining coal for all those hundreds of torches (spawnproofing) than actually exploring caves. And yeah Netherite was a big mistake....
At the same time I can't truly warm up to beta 1.7.3 because it just lacks too many QoL features that were already there when I started playing (FOV slider, free buttonmapping, crouching while mining, all manner of accessibility settings, etc.) So I still stick to newer versions.
The new ore distribution is cool, but it only works for iron, all the other ores are stuck either only low down or only high up - they should all be found on either side of the extreme at varying y levels imo. All in all my favourite version has to be 1.8, it still had the feeling of isolation and "Minecraft-iness while being more polished than Beta.
I think I might have to agree with you on 1.8 being my favorite. That’s the one I’ve spent by far the most time on, especially on servers like Hypixel and all of that. The last update before the combat update was implemented, it was so much fun.
i miss the old times when u just mine straight for diamonds and then u get into a lava pool
y = 11😮💨
I do agree, old cave generation was classic and nostalgic, but when I look at the new generation as a whole it just seems beautiful. Both above and below ground look so much nicer.
I agree looks wise, but conventionally, new caves just are so much more of a pain to navigate and have far too many ores in them to where you can’t appreciate the ones you do find anymore.
@@joffedy a pain to navigate? So a big open box is harder to navigate than randomly generated noodles?! Also "you cant appreaciate ores anymore" WTF DO YOU MEAN? "Ah yes back in the day i went on a romantic date with each and every piece of iron ore i found". Also I apreaciate iron way more than I used to because it has WAY more uses now than it did back then
I still use torches in the same way.
I’m glad I have a world where the old caves still exist, and I can explore further to get to the new caves.
I understand that
9:45 A little mix up of the order of events: Microsoft bought Minecraft BECAUSE Notch wanted to leave first. He asked for somebody to buy it from him an Microsoft accepted HIS offer.
yeah I get it The thing about new caves that I don't like is that they are so big that you can very easily get lost and like you always feel bad when you leave a spot unchecked
That’s what I’m saying.
i miss old minecraft a lot but i think that at the end of the day i miss being a kid...
The new caves suck so much because I cant enter one without being jumped by mobs from all directions :((
I haven’t witnessed that as much, but I can see where that would happen
So some counter points
One: mending made diamonds useless not the cave update, once you made armor and tools you'd never need diamonds again.
Point two: strip mining existed for ages that would last hours with infinity diamond that is just mining in a straight line,
Third point it's impossible to get lost mining, place a Lodestone (even stronger point if you upgraded diamond then you should have one) then make a compass then click the compass on the Lodestone go mining then find a way or dig a way out and use the compass and boom never lost again
4th: diamond uses if you have so many, beacons, and even armor trims will eat up diamonds so quick that you will always have a use for them.
I get your points, it’s more of preference for me personally, and my own personal views on it all, as you have as well. Diamonds just lost a lot of their value in general since the old days and that’s just a fact, we will never get that same excitement we used to when finding diamonds ever again.
@@joffedy "it's more of preference for me", "that's just a fact".
Pick one, is it your opinion or are you trying to state this as a fact? And how have diamonds lost their value? They have exactly the same amount of uses if not more than they did before. If anything there's vastly more things to use your diamonds on.
@@grimms8783 It’s a bit of both, not only do I prefer old caves, but diamonds have also lost value. They have been replaced completely by netherite, they are no longer the top commodity, nor are they rare enough for anyone to actually have excitement when finding them anymore. It’s like when anything loses value, there’s less of a desire for it.
@@joffedy my personal view people said that extract thing 2016 with mending then people got over it and moved on, and then in 2019 the pillage and village update made you able to just get infinite diamond tools that are enchanted from villagers before the cave update. Just to think about only 82 diamonds (barley over a stack) was all you needed for every diamonds item you'd ever need (tools & armor & enchanting table/jukebox,) then mend your gear and they will never break. then no more need for diamonds all before the cave update.
From my experience I've been searching for diamonds all the time even yesterday because duplicating my template left me with none and that's only for 1 template style I found for my armor, and because of the reduced air exposure of diamonds they are still tricky to get a lot of unless you strip mine which has been a strat sence diamonds were added.
And most of Minecraft direction with all of these updates was by Jeb who was leading the game mostly sence 2012.
@@DemonKonijntjeAsh I never had an issue with mending, as it’s not as easy to come by, most of the time I still had to mine more diamonds for a while to keep replacing tools and armor before I got mending on it all. Mending on every piece you owned was an endgame thing, so anytime before that you still had to keep finding diamonds. I think the argument of diamonds for armor trim is just unnecessary as well, trims are completely cosmetic. Useless. The only real use for diamonds that can be argued is for beacons and to make enchantment tables. Other than that they’ve lost all their value, they are no longer the best when it comes to armor or weaponry, and everything else you can do with them just has no point to it.
No way. Guys I understand nostalgia, but we asked for caves update for so long. They eventually updated them and now you complain. Unbelievable
I did not ask for the cave update at all. I can’t speak for everyone in the comments, but I did not want any of this.
@@joffedy I mean, there's nothing stopping you from playing older versions. Everyone misses them but its nostalgic
@@piotrprochot Nostalgia does play a factor to some degree, but when so many people are going back and staying there after playing the new game, many of which that have never even played the old versions, it starts to not become nostalgia anymore.
@@joffedy I get what you mean. Although I still think that new caves are great but it took too long to get them. They've just recently caught up with 1.17. We only are short of bundles now. But 3 years? seriously. That's outrageous
@@piotrprochot Yeah the delays were insane considering how easy to code Minecraft is, kidders could’ve done it quicker
Nice vid, I used to scream when I finally find diamonds after tons if mining, now I can find stacks after like 15mins but I feel empty 😢
Completely agree, and thank you!
I hate how you can't just go strip mine at Y12 now. Iron, coal ans such are at different levels. And caves are so huge and never end. I miss old caves too. Good video :)
Thank you so much and agreed
minecraft players when they have to actually explore instead of stripmining at y 12 for 7 hours for 4 diamonds
@@darthmauve That’s the problem, you don’t have to explore anymore, there’s far too many diamonds now you barely have to walk in a cave to find them.
I actually never mine diamonds on the ceiling, it’s just not worth it.
Me either, you can find another 20 of them walking a few steps further anyways so there’s not much of a point.
old minecraft is kind of a relaxation game
My thoughts exactly
If i was minecraft i would make a menu selection of the cave system you want. Or even a mod idk
@@dantu1000 Sadly that won’t ever happen, modders will do it though
I don't think I'd go back to pre 1.12, but I can agree that the new caves are not good.
The new cave generation, I like it is cool and feels more real
But I miss the old cave generation because it was easier to mine
Now the caves are so massive. I have to build pillars to get the best resources, because always the best resources are on the top of the cave
Me too I miss old cave I miss old villager I miss zombie pigman I miss old bat I miss old fish I miss old rose I miss old vex and I miss old Minecraft 😢
Take a shot every time he brings up the past; it's a fun drinking game. You won't enjoy this game if you keep clinging to your nostalgia like that; you will never get back there. 'Oh no, the game is losing its simplicity! Minecraft is ruined!' is just an excuse to whine that a game you played as a kid doesn't feel the same. Move on.
Don’t know why you’re so angry, but I mentioned multiple times in the video on top of the nostalgia points that it wasn’t just nostalgia, players that never even played those versions are going back and also saying it was better.
@@joffedy can you write down each time stamp that you said that this wasnt just nostalgia
lots of people hated the old caves now lots of people hate the new caves.
Sometimes you don’t appreciate something until you’ve lost it.
@@joffedy nice quote.
@@joffedy nice quote
Honestly Minecraft Survival has become less exciting, maybe because of the mechanics, even if i play Hardcore, i don't get that exciting feeling even if I beat the Dragon, because you could just literally finish the game within the first to the third day.
Yeah I know, and a lot of that stems from ores being way too easy to find too many of them, you get so geared up so quickly, there’s not really much of a point of playing for a long time through the whole cycle of the game, aside from just building of course
I just feel like it's too easy to get diamonds now like back in the day was so hard
That’s what I’m saying
How is it easier to get diamonds now a days? They're further down in generation and if you want to bring up villager trading you'd need to level up a specific type of villager all the way and trade the emeralds to buy that suit of armour which also has a random enchant you might not even want.
If anything it's vastly easier getting diamonds back in the day because all I need to do is mine down to lava lake level and walk around lava filled caves and I'll probably have half a stack by the time I leave. Now it's harder to get to the diamond level and because of the new cave generation doesn't always ensure that I'll be able to easily find said diamonds.
@@grimms8783 I don’t know what game you’re playing nowadays, but just because they are lower doesn’t mean they are harder to find. In any cave nowadays at diamond level you will come out of them with a minimum of a stack if you explore the whole cave. Caves back in the day weren’t even big enough most of the time to have 32 diamonds in them, you’d be lucky to even get a full set.
@@joffedy "Just because they're lower doesn't mean they're harder to find", yes it does, on a fundamental level. If something is further away from you it's harder to reach. It's a basic fact.
Also you could most definitely get a lot of diamonds in old caves considering they didn't end either, they constantly looped into other cave systems and you just have to stay at Y=11 to get stack on stack of diamonds.
The only difference in diamond generation between old and new is that old was consistent and regular with smaller yield while nowadays it's inconsistent with bigger yields, making finding diamonds statistically harder due to a lower mining level and sparser chances while giving a higher reward when you do find them.
@@grimms8783 Mining within tens of blocks down just to find a massive cave with hundreds of diamonds in it does not by any means make them harder to find. The difference between strip mining at Y=11 and a massive underground cave is the fact that you could get a decent amount of diamonds in a short time strip mining, but sometimes it takes forever to get any. Whereas any cave nowadays that is low enough will give you a guaranteed few hundred without you having to dump any time in. Strip mining was a gamble on if you were going to get diamonds, new caves are not.
This man speaks the truth 🙏
8:00 maybe im just misunderstanding your point but did you just say that minecraft should have died because things are not the way you like it anymore? even though u can still play basically every single version?
I think the longer time goes on, the more tarnished the game’s legacy becomes. They had a perfect product and most would agree with that, the same cannot be said nowadays, I think most people have strayed away from the game that used to hold it so highly. At the end of the day it’s just my opinion, you can take it if you’d like, it’s not serious like that, I just wanted to rant a bit😂
This is why I only play 1.2.5 😂
I don’t know about you, but mining absolutely SUCKS.
About a month ago I started a hardcore world in 1.8, because I was hearing about all the hype about old minecraft being better etc etc. and I played it for a while, but then realised I had literally spent half the time on the game mining, only to ever find one small vein of diamonds. Like seriously man, what the FUCK is fun about that. Either getting lost in caves for no reward or strip mining for hours for very little reward is shit. And I thought all this was fine until me and my friends started a server on the latest version, and I realised with the new caves there’s so much more to explore and mining no longer takes up your whole entire fucking life.
Also no one mines until they finish the cave, they mine until they have the stuff they need, tbh I think you were just trying to think of an argument on that one
I love the boring painstaking parts of Minecraft. It’s good contrast to the rest of my life as everything is always moving so fast, there’s always so much going on. It’s nice to just sit down and be “bored” for hours on end. The “boring” parts are the most fun for me, and I wasn’t just making up an arguments, I did use to mine to the end of caves, and then I’d stop mining after I finished them. I can’t do that anymore, there’s rarely ever an end to a cave, and I can never mine every ore out of any of them.
@@joffedy its fine to feel that way but you phrase everything in your video as though it was a fact (thats really hammered home when you literally say "they should stop making new minecraft versions because the old ones are undeniably better"), when in reality, its probably just you and a very small handful of people that feel that way.
old caves are boring
I understand how you could feel that way
Me too buddy
You’re goddamn right. Initially, for me, the Nether update was the worst update ever. That was until the caves and cliffs update, which made all current versions unplayable for me, and mainly due to a reason that no one seems to be touching on.
Mining used to be simple; you would dig down to Y level 12 or thereabouts, and just dig. All the ores could be found at once. Nowadays however, I if one needs iron, he has to mine at a seperate level just for that, which has made mining much more inefficient and tedious. I have to mine more just to get the same amount of ores I used to get. When mining too, or even cave diving, you get to a depth where coal is rarer than diamonds. Usually, you would craft torches with the coal you would find along the way…but now? Like I’m sorry, I’m not setting up a mine just for coal. Worst update in history.
I have rediscovered Beta 1.7.3 recently and I haven’t looked back. It is so much better than modern Minecraft.
(I started playing in 2010)
My thoughts summed up perfectly, you are so right about everything you said, I didn’t even think about that part of mining when making the video but you’re so correct
Old caves objectively worse than new. They suck ass
What’s so good about the new ones?
@@joffedyhey have a good day
chill man people can have opinions@@joffedy
@@joffedy they bigger, they more beautiful, they have far more content, and they actually look like caves
@@an_mln I understand that, but from a conventional standpoint, I view the old caves as much better. I agree that they have more content and look very nice, I’m just a simplicity fan, I enjoy a more calming, somewhat bland gameplay loop.
Which version of Minecraft is he playing in this video? I wanna play it!
Minecraft Beta 1.7.3. You have to go in your Minecraft launcher settings, turn on show historic versions, then change the version to it.
Sad. :(
i dont agree with you one the "feeling of finding diamonds" change in mc. It still feels like super good 😊 it didnt lost its value for me
And that’s okay, I understand if people enjoy the new update, it’s all just opinion based
@@joffedy yes ik what u feel, dw
@@joffedy then why'd you say they should stop updating the game? pick one. you can't say "its fine for people to like the new version" whilst also saying "they should stop making the new updates because the old ones are definitively better". that's just not how that works. you can't phrase everything in the video like its an undeniable fact and then walk it back in the comments when people call it out. its lame and proves that your not actually sure about what you're saying. if you're going to be saying the "modern versions suck and they should stop making them" then you can't also say "but its fine if people like the modern versions" - those two are complete opposites. just pick one opinion and stop being hypocritical of the other in the comments.
i like the new updates
I dont agree really, the game was boring, empty and bland, not a really good game
Okay that’s sort of an outrageous thing to say considering it was the biggest game ever at the time I’m talking about in the video
@@joffedyhe's right. The game was bland. You just prefer bland gameplay and that's your personal preference. Most people like the modern version a lot more.
@@johnmitchek3183 I believe most people completely despise the route the game is taking actually, all I hear in that community is complaining.
@@joffedy that's just bulsh*t though and you know it
@@joffedy well thats completely wrong. it has nothing to do with "old minecraft being better and having a better direction", and everything to do with Mojang having poor communication with the community. shit like mob votes and mediocre updates (1.20) was why the community was getting so mad, not the direction of the game. more people are playing the game than literally ever before, and its not 'bad direction" that's making people mad, its a lack of delivering on features that were promised and underdelivering features that they put in the game (archaeology). lots of people are going back to old versions for nostalgia, not gameplay. most people still think old minecraft is just a dumbed-down version of new minecraft, so its clearly not for "gameplay" that they're going back, its for the nostalgia.
also the only reason "minecraft is the biggest game ever" is because people like the new direction more. most people who are currently playing the game started after microsoft bought mojang so its clearly not the old direction that got them playing the game.
New caves are better. The old ones are claustrophobic and harder to find ores. Finding stuff in new caves is easier after they made ores better and more efficient to find.
It’s too easy imo, too many ores, the game holds your hand to much and spoils you too often, the difficulty of finding ores back then made it so much more rewarding when you finally did.
@@joffedy in other words, not taking hours to find a small and useless amount of something. Grow up.
@@joffedyyou being slow at finding ores is not my damn problem. Ores are only ever so slightly easier to find. Stop complaining because you can’t put effort into finding something.
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#1 fan here
This is underrated
Thank you!
Cave arent limited wtf you on about? Do you seriosly enjoy strip mining to get diamonds rather than exploring?
The new caves are more fun to explore too, rather than just walking through the same tunnels that all look the same.
You can still put torches as indicators of where you were, its just that you need more of them.
Not to mention that even before the nether update the community was BEGGING for a cave update.
You could always bumb up gamma so you didnt need torches, that was alsways in the game.
Torches are still useful provided you dont outright cheat by changing the gamma settings. you are essecialy complaining that cheating makes a part of the game obsolete, DUH NO SHIT!
"Boring in a fun way" care to explain how???
"so many people are going back to the old versions and staying there" *shows 1 clip from 1 guy*
"It was a better game" are you high? There hasnt been a time in the history of this game in which exploring was more fun, in which resources werent a chore, but actually fun to collect (execpt netherite but even that is easier to collect than diamonds before the cave update)
"people who are just now playing that version are saying its better" WHOOOOO????!!!!!!!
"minecraft was better just being a simple game" yeah because god forbid we have better terrain generation now, its too complex it has... TALL MOUNTAINS?!?!?!?!?!? (ps: the only thing old generation had that was better where the occasional floating islands)
"its should've" you want a game to die because it changed... bro...
"it changed the industry" its still does. What do think sparked the idea of the "forever game". Minecraft did. Constant free updates created the idea that a game could be updated forever rather than just releasing sequels.
"when minecraft started being everyone else we started loosing it" Guess what? Games like stardew valley also get regular updates. ":< i hate the new minecraft, i wish i could go back to mining in a straigh line for hours :
First of all, I’m not reading all of that, you are taking a video game far too serious. I made this video in like an hour total and just spoke my mind about a thought I was having in the moment. I still enjoy the old caves, I still play the old versions, it’s not just nostalgia, there are many others in the community right now doing the same. It’s okay that I don’t like the route they took the game, you’re entitled to think otherwise. It is genuinely not deep enough though to where it deserves a multi-page scripture in a TH-cam comment section. I can’t speak for everyone else in the community and what they are doing or what updates they wanted so badly, but I can speak for myself, I never wanted change.
@@joffedy 1. I made that in 15 minutes just following along with your video
2. my problem is that you are saying the old versions are BETTER (you never said thats just your opinion you stated it as fact) with reasoning thats pulled out your ass
3. its a 5 minute read
@@RandoART2023 1. Still not reading it. 2. You still care too much. 3. I don't have to say "in my opinion" for it to be my opinion. I believe it as fact, and I'm allowed to speak my mind on what I believe. It's not supposed to be an argument, it was just a short little video speaking my mind, and you typing pages against me isn't going to change the fact of what I believe.
@@joffedy ok so:
1. If you wont read my comment stop replying like you know what points you should be defending. You didnt address anything i said, instead you just pulled out the "its just my opinion" when the video is clearly saying that that opinion is fact.
2. You are allowed to speak your mind just as much as i am allowed to disassemble and critique every point you make while speaking your mind
3. If you belive something like its a fact (1.7.3 > than any new version) and then make a video saying that you are right, you cant just say "oh im just speaking my mind" to avoid all critisism. Also "It's not supposed to be an argument", then why do you have 2 arguements in the video defending your point?
4. "you care too much" I honestly dont give a shit about what version you like, everyone has a different preference. What I do give a shit about is you coming out and saying 1.7.3 is the only good version and that everyone elses prefered version is shit compared to yours and then on top of that using arguements so bad I can only compare them to arguements for flat earth. Your awful reasoning is whats firing me up so much, not your prefrence
5. The only reason I am typing "pages" isnt to change the fact you like 1.7.3, its to change the fact you think its objecticaly better in everyway to newer versions, which it isnt
@@joffedy i was being nice in my other comments i made but i just read this reply and realized that you're actually just being a piece of sh*t. the fact that you made a reply to someone with the most 12 year old "i ain't reading all that" response and then started trying to defend yourself about your points without even bothering to read the actual comment just proves your a bad human being. you think that you're always correct and that whenever someone disagrees with you that their opinion is invalid because of it. you put other people down and tell them that your opinion is fact because its your opinion and that their opinion isn't worth being seen because it disagrees with you. you then try and pretend like you value other peoples opinions by saying "well its just your opinion" but as soon as they start to disagree with you and try to validate their opinions you just tell them to go f**k themselves. i realize now that you're probably a narcissist and that you don't actually care what these people think, so thanks for "speaking your mind" and then telling other people that they can't because they disagree with you.
What's the shader used in the thumbnail
It’s not a shader It’s just Minecraft Beta 1.7.3 with fog on near!
@@joffedy goddamn it looks beautiful
@@Viski982 I know right it’s so calming
You can easily just play older versions. There is no point in not updating Minecraft when you can just do that and other players can enjoy modern Minecraft. You are basicly asking for the Mojang to to stop the fun for those players while youself gain nothing from it.
Also, diamonds are less exciting now because of villagers. Diamonds have stopped feeling special long before Caves and Cliffs. Netherite actually made them somewhat more valuable again.
Iron also became unintresting because of iron farms.
Modern Minecraft is great, it just needs a rebalancing. A lot of things need to be rarer.
I’ve tried explaining this to my friend profusely but he refuses to admit older Minecraft is just better
It’s alright, some people won’t understand, but we will always know….
@@joffedy and that's because old minecraft wasn't better. its the version i go back to the most but it is undeniably not a "better version of the game". its an unfinished version and it is charming, but its shit as an actual "game". its still good as a sandbox but there wasn't really much of a "game" yet since it is (as it says in the version name) a BETA version
They’re not horrible it’s just nostalgia I mean sometimes it can be annoying. Think of this. If you’re having a cavern you could build an entire city underground you could build a giant cabin underground. You couldn’t do that when the old So I don’t hate them. I just think it’s nostalgia.
It’s not just nostalgia, it’s just a preference, I’ve been playing the old game and the new game recently and I just genuinely enjoy one more than the other.
This is what one flaw in the Minecraft community, EVERYONE wanted BIGGER and BETTER caves and now there are people wanting the old ones back? i dont get it. the community just wants more, and more, same with the mob votes.
I not really a part of the Minecraft community and haven’t been for a while, just a casual player who just wanted the game to stay the best it was, while being also open to new things to come
old minecraft doesnt really have that much content, you just play for a week or 2 then stop playing
one of the worst takes ever, if you hate the newer updates, just play in the older versions my guy, saw this one comment stating the nether update was the worst despite it adding so much to the game but if all you love and enjoy is a bland experience in the name of "relaxation experience" then go ahead. And about the diamonds, i steel feel that they hold high value especially with the introduction of trims and their duplication so thats that. But the sole thing i agree upon in this video is the negative feeling of leaving some spots in the cave unchecked.
I never said I hated any version, and you didn’t watch until the end clearly as I said just that. I said it may be time for people like me to finally just hang up new Minecraft and take a trip back to order versions. Also, it’s not just a take, it’s just how I feel, you are more than allowed to feel however you’d like toward the topic, but don’t bring me down for feeling the way I do.