BEST way to fletch ARROWS?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2022
- Travis takes you through his methods of fletching arrows to get the best flight possible. He goes over how to nock tune and get proper vane adhesion. Using the AZ E Z Fletch Mini Max, he gets the TAC Vanes glued up with a crazy amount of helical.
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Nock tuning is a very overlooked aspect of the arrow build process. Very thorough video. 👌🏻
Glad it was helpful!
How did they come out in the end? Victory spine aligns their shafts, so I’m wondering how the final Nick tuning differed from their marked spine align(?)
@@hoganfan2006 they run about 60% accurate
@@DeadHeadArchery Regarding 60% accurate ( I agree ) Spine align, is probably just, a "Gimmick" to Sell more Arrows ,..
personally, I try make the Most accurate Arrows ( ALL the same ) THEN, I "Nock Tune" the Fletched Arrows individually for accuracy, "Perfection" and Mark the Cock Vane.
Learned this from, the Ranch Fairy,.. 5-6 Years, ago AND,. IT,.. "Works"
@@douglash.8862 it is a gimmick created by Easton years and years ago to sell more arrows. I have since learned to nock tune after fletch because it makes the arrow react differently. Gotta keep learning.
Building the same arrows, huge help with all the tips!
Glad we could help, I noticed this helped the most when tuning fix blade broadheads.
Awsome video, exactly what I was looking for. I have the same arrow and was having a hard time getting a helical on it using the tac driver 2.75. only at best a slight offset. I was told that the ez fletch minimax would get me the helical that I was looking for and your video helped out. Also good point about checking for spine align, I thought they were all true!
Ya it definitely gets an insane amount of helical for sure. I never thought about the spine align also until I decided to test it out and found out how many were off. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel Steve.
Excellent video man! Very helpful
Glad you liked it, we just posted another arrow build video a couple days ago. That has some helpful stuff in it as well.
I totally nock tune all my shafts also. Great video!
I definitely notice a difference in my groups.
Glue bottle and Vista tips, AWESOME idea. Ordering mine right now, thank you!
No problem. Glad the video was helpful.
Where do you order the bottle and tips from? Thank you in advance!
@@DarinWheeler1967 Lancaster archery
Next video should be explaining how to group tune. What do you think?
I think that would be a good one.
That would be a great idea!
Wow, I have been bowbunting and shooting bows since 1988 or 89 and never heard of the nock tuning. I certainly am gonna be trying it before next season. Thanks for that. And I also always have about 2 flyers I call them out of a fresh dozen even back in my aluminum arrow days.
Glad we showed you something new, let us know if the nock tuning fixes those couple flyers.
@@DeadHeadArchery will do
Thanks for the tip on the adjusting the nock position on the jig.
No problem, I had to learn the hard way unfortunately 🤷🏼♂️
@@DeadHeadArchery I would have never known.
Good video for beginners to understand
thank you, there are some things I would like to go more in detail with but those would be their own videos.
Great Video
Thank you Glenn
Very good video
Thank you 🙏
Use gorilla glue and forget about the primer!!! Gorilla glu all the way. My vains do not come off.. 4° left helical tacs on easton axis match grade , iron will single bevel . Clock tuning is a must to find out witch direction to fletch the vains and match your broadheads if using single bevels. Great video 🍻
I agree, I think it’s extremely important especially with fixed blades. I’m gonna do a video on vane clocking and see the effects of clocking it both ways and how it affects fixed blades
@@DeadHeadArchery nice. I can't wait to watch.. should be cool to see the effects of a single bevel broadhead fletched w the wrong direction vains. I bet the arrow would fly all wonky. Cheers mate
I’ve been trying to find someone that uses Tac vanes with the max jig, do you have any issues with it? I was curious if they were too stiff to throw that much helical and have good adhesion. I’ve been thinking about trying out Tac drivers. Been using the max stealths but want something lighter and quieter.
Haven’t had any issues with them but I recommend as much prep as you can do. Scuff the arrow, prime the vane, and add extra pressure when first applying the vane.
I thought victory had a spine alignment mark? Great idea on the glue bottle that is super!
Also hang your jig each time by the wire and the glue runs away from the hinge points. Also put the jig in acetone for a little bit and then shake it out. Yeah I've broke a jig too...
Thanks for good vid
They do but I’ve found that it’s not always accurate. For the most part it is tho.
Curious why you decided to go with a right hand helical. Did you check the spin off your string and found it was naturally right? Ive seen some guys on TH-cam say that most bow strings force a left hand spin (something about a clockwise wind with the string and serving), and going with a left hand helical preserves a slight amount of energy. Trying to decide if its worth the time to test if my bow is left vs right and buying the accompanying e-z fletch
Curious as to which broadhead you're shooting with these vanes? I shoot a 150 grain Magnus Stinger four blade (bleeder blades), the exact same arrow and tune the arrow as you do but I bought a Bitzenberger and hung up the EZ Fletch so I could four fletch the 2.25 drivers because Tac told me they wouldn't work well with my broadhead, well I had already bought them because I like their stiffness and weight compared to most vanes.
That’s odd, I prefer their vanes with fixed blades BECAUSE they are so stiff and don’t collapse when the arrow is shot. I shoot the tooth of the arrow 4 blade
I am doing some driver 2.75 in a left hand mini max had great results with the boning heat vanes in it victory rip xv arrows
I couldn’t get the heat vanes to fly good for some reason.
@@DeadHeadArchery I can’t get the tac driver 2.75 vanes to stick I am using a prep pen and 2 different types of glue the heat vane turn out perfectly every time
@@duke1386 are you etching the surface and acetone the shaft?
@@DeadHeadArchery no I just scraped it then used rubbing alcohol to wipe the shaft I used the prep pen on the shaft and the fletching.
@@duke1386 try a scotch brite pad or fine sand paper
Not a professional nor am claiming to know anything, just curious. But would spine aligning work the same way as nock tuning or is it something that you need to do in addition to spine aligning? Or am I dumb and nock tuning is another way to ensure a spine alignment?
It’s the same thing. Spine align seems to be inconsistent especially since I don’t care where a machine says the stiffest spot is, I want to see how my arrow reacts to being shot out of my bow. Stick to nock tuning and group tuning and you’ll have a 99.5% complete tune.
I never nock tuned till I started building my own arrows this year. Plenty of people think it's still a waste of time. Vanes are masking how bad your form is, under or over spined, grip, or a arrow that just won't tune. It's no different than hand loading for my rifles. I don't want my bullets starting off crooked when I pull the trigger.
it's crazy how much of a difference it can make with such a small change
Any videos coming out on leveling 1,2,3rd axis on a sight?
Yes, very near future
Do you have a link to that glue bottle with fine tip? I tried to get one off Amazon and it was definitely not the right thing.
see if these work
lancasterarchery.com/products/bohning-glue-dispenser-bottle-w-regular-cap
lancasterarchery.com/products/vista-glue-tips-2pk
Where you get little tip for glue bottles
Bro, that TAC primer pen lasts like 10 seconds. This is a reason they recommend the Bitzenburger over the EZ Fletch.
who recommends it? TAC? So far, I haven't had any adhesion issues running the EZ Fletch but I'll give the Bitz a try.
Does Willowcreek sell a deadhead archery fletching kit with all the stuff you mentioned?
No but the should
@@DeadHeadArchery if you can get a “Dead Head bundle” setup for sale and Bret of Kasey can help me figure out what way my arrow spins out of the bow. I’ll buy a kit.
you know, you are supposed to put the retainer cap on first, then gently let the base of the jig come up. it really smacks them on the shaft when you do it your way, i would bet it throws some of them up a bit higher on the arrow too. ✌
I guess I've been doing it wrong then lol. I haven't seen adhesion issues so maybe it didn't affect it too bad. I'll try it this way next time I use the jig. Thanks for the comment.
I was wondering about that, seems easier to close the arms and lock them in before releasing the spring part. Drawback to these jigs is limited adjustability for offset: what do you do if you want 1° less offset for a particular vane. I like the glue tip thing though, don't really like the pour glue from one bottle to the other one. Bob Smith industries glue bottle has a nice sharp tip on it that when cut at an angle is pretty precise for applying glue to vane. And ironically it looks like the same glue that Easycare uses for glue on horse shoes, if it holds horse shoes on it should be good for arrow vanes 😅😅
@@madman432000 i just use what ever degree offset or helical the jig is set up for, never had a bit of problem with arrow flight from the jigs. even with large broadheads.
I haven’t seen anyone make a video about how close/ or not a nock tuned arrow is to the indicated spine on a spine tested arrow( not a factory indicated spine*)
I always nock tune. I found that they are about 50-60% accurate from where the factory mark is.
So you nock tuned but did you clock and determine the natural rotation? Or that isn’t a factor for you?
I don’t worry about clocking it Bareshaft. In the end I’m shooting it with vanes and they will determine the spin.
@@DeadHeadArcheryreally? Ok. I do and want the best velocity and KE down range. Don’t need my arrow starting one way and fighting to get back the other. Just my opinion.
it's not fighting, the vanes become the dominant force in rotation. And it all happens in a millisecond and then it's over.@@mattguzman73
@@DeadHeadArchery sure. Whatever you say.
Are you using field points?
Yes
Shoot themin cold wreather much and watch them fall off. Happened to alot of my friends and they prepped like supposed to
Well that’s not good. What fletch did your friends end up going with?
Float test in a tub, will get a constant spine
Would top or bottom be spine?