Trying to SMiLE - Understanding a Weird Beach Boys Album

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  • @mjhilps
    @mjhilps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    I was only a casual Beach Boys fan until I discovered Smile, that's what made me a diehard. The album changed me and I don't know why but it resonates with me on a level I could never dream of articulating why.

    • @matthewrider5906
      @matthewrider5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Same. Except it was Pet Sounds that turned me on to them. And that led me to Good Vibrations & SMiLE.

    • @telsutton
      @telsutton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'd discovered Pet Sounds in 1991. Then, just a few months later, someone handed me a bootleg of SMiLE made from various sources. It was a quest for the Holy Grail from that day... my own favourite SMiLE being one I made from the Unsurpassed Masters/Audiogalaxy sources in 2001.

    • @Yuoskalola
      @Yuoskalola ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

    • @bobbyd7524
      @bobbyd7524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Sunflower" made me a diehard.

  • @Providence..
    @Providence.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    God, I haven't even finished watching this video yet and it's giving me chills, it's gonna be a good one. I believe the loss of Smile back in 1967 was probably one of the biggest tragedies in music history. We can only imagine what that world would've been like, had it came out as planned...

    • @waboom248
      @waboom248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I wish more than anything that Smile was released in '67.

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s a horrible shame what the music industry did to one of the greatest American musical geniuses of the 20th century.

    • @RiccoHavocco
      @RiccoHavocco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it would’ve tanked. I love the album to death but it is too bizarre for the masses

    • @griffinnovie4921
      @griffinnovie4921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it would have been a tragedy but it ended up being a triumph. I'm almost totally satisfied with the Smile Sessions box set. Sure, it might not be as it was originally intended but it's still such an incredible work of art. Brian and Darian Sahanaja did an amazing job sequencing the 2004 album and having the mostly completed Beach Boys recordings is heaven.

    • @martyjansing2675
      @martyjansing2675 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/8UbNwhm2EX8/w-d-xo.html

  • @beep200
    @beep200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    i think the theme of this album is "madness" in a way. it almost has the same vibe to me as the scene in willy wonka and the chocolate factory where they're going over the chocolate river. at times it feels uncomfortable, sometimes melancholy, sometimes deliriously silly. it's my favourite beach boys album and i think if you listen carefully you can hear the same feelings through some of the earlier beach boys works, Smile is like Brian finally coming into his own creatively. Brian has a real knack for capturing melancholy in music, but also for capturing happiness in music, I think this speaks a lot to his character and his soul.

    • @matthewkiss4089
      @matthewkiss4089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I couldn't have said it better, Renae............. This is Brian's swansong........ his masterpiece........ His soul............

    • @johnpolitis9060
      @johnpolitis9060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it's an autobiography of Brian's life using the Americana theme as a metaphor.

    • @johnpolitis9060
      @johnpolitis9060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matthewkiss4089 I think it's an autobiography of Brian's life using the Americana theme as a metaphor.

    • @gerrydooley951
      @gerrydooley951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kind of..... I think Brian became obsessed with it but also lost focus, especially when Van Dyke left to do his own album

  • @bryanfahey3144
    @bryanfahey3144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I think the biggest tragedy was that the Beatles fans were willing to jump on their creativity but The Beach Boys fans were not on board. I think this was a big contribution to SMiLEs downfall. Which could have been a historic landmark.

    • @davidnissim589
      @davidnissim589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Plus John Lennon and Paul McCartney had each other as reliable songwriting partners, whereas Brian was the only songwriter. The other Beach Boys (mostly Mike) were very hostile to Smile at first.

    • @garrethboland
      @garrethboland ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@davidnissim589 Yea. I think even George Martin mentioned being blown away that Brian was essentially doing everything himself. The Beatles had the 4 of themselves AND Martin.

    • @gerrydooley951
      @gerrydooley951 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@davidnissim589 not true that the other Boys were hostile to the project they were always working on vocals .It was Brian himself who finally decided not to put the album out

    • @gerrydooley951
      @gerrydooley951 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes and I think part of the problem was the BB's lack of personality, unlike the Beatles nobody could name a Beach Boy. John , Paul, George and Ringo: it's like Jesus, Mary and Joseph. To this day few people could name a Beach Boy. Fans loved the Beatles because they felt they knew them. Fans of the BB's only really knew the music and when it got "weird" they didn't care for it.

    • @johnwhat5398
      @johnwhat5398 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe the myths from reality is a myth itself. Carol Kay who worked with Brian on a lot of his studio work, states he was a generous man,totally focused and alert in the studio and no sign of substance interference . More than likely Mike Love wanting to be the lyricist and his involvement in Van Dyke leaving, immense pressure from Capitol records and little support, lead to Brian's breakdown. I don't think Beach Boys fans at the time were to blame for anything

  • @johnmavroudis2054
    @johnmavroudis2054 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with Brian's brothers. I think SMiLE is every bit as good as, if not better than, PET SOUNDS. Complex, quirky, poetic, haunting, beautiful.
    It's a masterpiece.

  • @daledavidson8242
    @daledavidson8242 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The folks that collected the bootleg Smiles modules and assembled them in the myriad of possible compilations make up one of the greatest artistic cults to ever surf the underground. Much as it was a great joy to witness Brian’s live show when he finally got the moxie and support to complete A version of it, I don’t think it was better than some of the CDs distributed by some hard core fans. To me, THEIR pursuit of the lost masterwork was its greatest testimony.

  • @Fool3SufferingFools
    @Fool3SufferingFools 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The only thing I would add is that “Brian Wilson Presents Smile” is definitely worth listening to as well. Everything’s re-recorded, but very much in the spirit of the original, and you get to hear how a more mature Brian Wilson and Van Dyke Parks finally finished what they started so long ago.

    • @joegordon2915
      @joegordon2915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i absolutely love Brian Wilson Presents Smile and prefer it to the Beach boys version

    • @NostalgiNorden
      @NostalgiNorden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer the Smile Sessions.@@joegordon2915

    • @allenjones3130
      @allenjones3130 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@joegordon2915The 2004 version of "Smile" is a masterpiece.

    • @davidbaise5137
      @davidbaise5137 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a great live show, back in ‘04!

  • @jakemitchell1671
    @jakemitchell1671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pro musician and lifelong BB fan here. This is excellent. You did this difficult topic great justice. Thank you.

  • @keroroclaptrappikachuanimation
    @keroroclaptrappikachuanimation ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If Brian Wilson completed Smile, the album would have been a critical acclaim from music critics!

  • @Greg-lw4zb
    @Greg-lw4zb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "How could you take my sunshine away?"
    I'm not really sure how to say this, but I feel legitimate pain when I think about how this record was prevented from being released. No other event in contemporary music history makes me angry; this one does though. The loss of Smile's artistic influence upon the world is difficult to measure, but the loss is significant. The music is so wondrously beautiful that I think it's fair to say that Brian's achievement is a legitimate exemplar of the extraordinary things that human beings are capable of achieving when in their finest moments. It is truly sad to me that Brian never got to hear the accolades that he would have received for making this, and I very much hope that in his heart, that loss does not cause him too much pain. Thank you for existing, Mr. Wilson, and for giving us the gift of your finest moments; you truly are a genius, and I never use that word lightly.
    Also, I politely disagree with the author about the album lacking a concept or theme. In fact, I bet it could be argued that it is the tightest concept album of all time. The concept is felt, though; it is not necessarily a literal idea that can be discussed concretely. (Although I am perfectly open to the idea that there is a literal concept, too.)

    • @luizansounds
      @luizansounds ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honestly, the fact the 2004 album managed to come out and still live out the hype is nothing short than a miracle,
      even more amazing is how The smile Sessions mop the floor with all beach boys albuns but pet sounds (which they are on par bcs smile wasnt completed) and its not even close, it would not have been a best seller probably, BUT it would surely make a huge impact in music and popularize modular recording way before borhap and the rise of the digital recording and editing

  • @brainscott8198
    @brainscott8198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Smile" sounds as if Brian Wilson, in a manic phase of his bi-polarism, was answering The Beatles "Sgt Pepper", like Jack Nicholson's Joker character: "OK, Beatles, u wanna get nuts!!???..let's get nuts!!!!"

  • @pedrorocha9722
    @pedrorocha9722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Or... there is a third path: an album released before May 67, abandoning the SMiLE concept, called Surf's Up (not the 70's one) or Wonderful or whatever, containing the main songs recorded and more or less completed from the SMiLE sessions and new ones. It would have still be a better record than Smiley Smile and preceded Sgt Pepper in groundbreaking production. By the way, I listened recently to the BW Presents SMiLE and I finally understood it. It's all about how America lost it's way and Nature is the ultimate answer. A view very much of those times.

    • @RiccoHavocco
      @RiccoHavocco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And still a very valid point even more today

    • @gerrydooley951
      @gerrydooley951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the other story here is Smiley Smile which, next to the Party album is their worst album of the '60's. SS is Brian saying "I give up, I can't compete with the Beatles or anyone else " . It took the Beach Boys years to recover from SS, if they ever did.

    • @pedrorocha9722
      @pedrorocha9722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gerrydooley951 Well... S.S. has Good Vibrations and Heroes and Villains. Its more underwelming and unbalanced. And after all the bicthing from the Boys about the weirdness of the SMiLE music, they come up with something really weird and clearly under the influence, in total disrespect for BW, the band's provider.

    • @hwgavin
      @hwgavin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah the maker of this video really didn't seem to get the point of the lyric theme of SMiLE

  • @jorob46
    @jorob46 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smile is Brian"s masterpiece. I listen to Smile more than Pet Sounds. If you listen carefully, it has 3 themes americana, the elements and Water movement. It is Brian at at his peak. I never get tired of hearing Smile.

    • @hwgavin
      @hwgavin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's so much better than Pet Sounds, the obvious biographical lyrics of Pet Sounds kind of make it a chore sometimes to revisit. Smile is never a chore, always a joy. Someone fucking make a time machine and make Capitol release it 57 years ago

  • @mikeg5280
    @mikeg5280 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's the deal. At that time every Beach Boys album was different with its own personality, pretty much starting with Today and continuing through about Love You. After Love You the artistry faded away with periodic exceptions.

  • @admiralkrankandhismightyba158
    @admiralkrankandhismightyba158 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, the beach boys released alot if weird tracks before the smile recordings were done. Brian wilson is an odd ball with a delightfully bizarre sense of humor.

  • @nazfrde
    @nazfrde ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not a theramin on "Good Vibrations". It's an "electro-Theramin", which was created to sound as much like a Theramin as possible, but be easier to play. Instead of being controlled exclusively by waving your hands around its antennas, it had a ribbon keyboard, which made it easy to slide up and down and hit the notes. You can see Mike Love playing it in the GV TV performance.

  • @charliestoops8815
    @charliestoops8815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a Beach Boys super-fan, I LOVE this, thank you!

    • @charliestoops8815
      @charliestoops8815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also in my opinion, in particular Heroes and Villains and Surf’s Up are two of the greatest songs ever written

  • @MrKenichi22
    @MrKenichi22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I consider this, probably their greatest album

    • @rocknroll_jezus9233
      @rocknroll_jezus9233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I consider this the greatest album of all time

    • @luismaldonado4989
      @luismaldonado4989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rocknroll_jezus9233 you've heard every album of all time??

    • @jonnobloggs8642
      @jonnobloggs8642 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luismaldonado4989 You completely own the entire Internet for that comment .I hope you get asked to write Wayne's World 3 😁

  • @Fatherjohn76
    @Fatherjohn76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As a 7 year old kid hearing my mum play I Get Around for the first time = this is great
    As a teenager hearing Pet Sounds for the first time = this is amazing
    As an adult hearing SMiLE Sessions for the first time = holy shit this might just be the greatest album never made

  • @Superluckyhappytime
    @Superluckyhappytime ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The original “Smile” album is the epitome of genius. The Beatles (and Stones and everyone else, for that matter) had producers and others writers to work with. Brian did it all; better than anyone else. He was the last man standing after the British Invasion. If it weren’t for his mental health issues, there’s no telling what might have been. As it is his legacy is cemented. “Surfs Up”, “A Day In The Life Of A Tree”, “Til I Die” and “Sail On Sailor” (to name a few), show that even as debilitated as he became, he was always a master craftsman. I don’t believe that there’s ever been anyone else in pop music before or since who could hold a candle to him. Produce, write, arrange, sing and play. There was nothing musically that he couldn’t do.

  • @hwgavin
    @hwgavin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    your summary at the end kind of makes me feel, you kind of don't get Smile. It would have landed at the time with the general public had it had been completed. You only have to look at the mass success of Sgt. Peppers, Dark Side, psychedelic music in general at the time to see why. The abstract nature of the lyrics are also the appeal of Smile. And given how renown the album is now - it's pretty easy to see that it would have been a massive success and influence then, just as it is now after having finally been completed

  • @omnifuturistic
    @omnifuturistic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The album is about change and what happens when you get lost on the way. It's a reference to the american dream told through some personal experiences of Brian growing up, with a touch of spirituality, ie the elements suite. The getting healthy aspects are just referencing this. It's Americana (which we know because Brian has said it as such), but also how the world is changing very fast and the problems coming along with this. And the thing is, Brian was wanting a new audience. So no the typical american surf rock fan probably wouldn't be into it, but fans of the beatles would.

  • @timlove1
    @timlove1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the SMiLE album. This is what happens when you make a record 50 years before as time. I am so glad though that Brian got to live to see the Love that people give this music. I also love the fact that he was able to release it as a solo record first and then made even more money when the Beach boys released it. I bought both. Congratulations Brian I’m being the genius that you are and always have been.

  • @shkeni
    @shkeni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you're someone who enjoys great singing and instrumentation Smile is absolutely recommended. Not a knock on their other stuff (which I adore), but this and Pet Sounds are the best stuff they ever made and their other songs might feel a bit diminished if you come to know them after listening to Smile Sessions.

    • @gerrydooley951
      @gerrydooley951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also think the BB's Today is a fantastic album, full of great pop songs and the doorway to Pet Sounds

  • @henrikseglemgrydeland6490
    @henrikseglemgrydeland6490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a huge Beatles fan, but when I first heard Smile, it was like going thorugh a time capsule. If it had come out in 67 it would have been considered one of the greatest albums of all time, right up with Srgt. Pepper. It is even more beautiful then Pet Sounds, so sophisticated, so musically complex, yet very listenable and fun. It is just a magic peace of work. It would have shook the world, that´s what I think, at least in Europe. It is a mystery that Pet Sounds never made it huge in US, but time has certainly redeemed it as a classic. Smile is another perfect work, and Mr. Wilson is a true magician and genius. You don´t find to many of those. Thank you for this wonderful film!

  • @Yuoskalola
    @Yuoskalola ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TO WHOEVER MADE THIS VIDEO. You did a wonderful job explaining smile which happens to be my favorite album. Thank you

  • @JohnBrinkman-x8e
    @JohnBrinkman-x8e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    oh dear Lord......Mike Love arguing with the genius of Van Dyke Parks?? I wish Van would have slapped the s--- out of him....but of course, Van is so full of love and peace and patience to do something like that. so....all love to Van and thank you for sharing your genius....you're an inspiration to music and how to appreciate life.....love you

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your comment about the balance between artistic growth and commercialism, I found to be quite interesting. "Good Vibrations" alone achieved both in spades! Commercially, I think "Smile" would have done well on the strength of "Good Vibrations" alone, just as two albums prior, "California Girls" did for "Summer Days and Summer Nights". For the simple fact that GV served as a "teaser" preceding the album, would have made people curious to buy the album to hear the rest of the stuff on there

  • @aerialtour
    @aerialtour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well first off nice video on Brian Wilson’s /Beach Boys “Smile” album that never came to be. I first became aware of this unreleased Lp back in the mid 1990’s (pretty late on hearing of it) caught my full attention after reading about it & immersed myself in the Smile tracks from the 30 Years of Beach Boys box set & then went out & bought a 2 cd bootleg deluxe set and was hooked ever since. I found the sessions fascinating- unusual ( I will leave out weird)complex w/beautiful harmonies. Putting aside Brians’s drug & mental state/ the tensions in the studio & the lyrics which weren’t all that complex (but artful/Americana/earth elements/health/spiritual) and quoting Brian a teenage symphony to God. The crusher was that Brian knew where music was going in late 66-67 especially the Beatles & knew he had to top it or at least stack up to it & could have. Good Vibrations/ Heroes & Villains was Brian’s Strawberry Fields/Penny lane which preceded the Beatles Sgt.Peppers album. The Beatles released no other singles from SPLHCB & had Brian been able to stay focused(and more time given)would not have had to release anything else to promote Smile. Had things gone right Brian’s master piece would have been released first before Pepper/Surrealistic Pillow/ The Doors 1st Lp ect. And that was the killer to Brian -my opinion of course. Smile would have lead the pack, with more encouragement & less pressure which I’m sure would have helped but wasn’t to be. So Brian hit a wall & shelved it all and had to stew about it for all these years!

  • @lowenbad
    @lowenbad ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smile is one of my top 3 favorite albums of all time.

  • @waffles6589
    @waffles6589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    with me when i hear smile it feels like the songs are coming from a person with a personality disorder. weird, crazy but happy all at the same time. i have adhd when i listen to Theis's songs i feel connected to it in some way. i don't know how to explain it but i feel like that's where the songs are coming from. and its asome.
    edit: i just realized who the person with the disorder is. it's Brian what if Brian wanted to make smile to show us how he sees the world, how chaotic his mind is. smile is a doorway into Brian's Mind.

  • @davidaston5773
    @davidaston5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video. Smile if released would've fitted in with the summer of love. Promoted properly it could've been a hit with the hippies and creative side of music.
    Even if it hadn't it would've been a success in Europe. Either way it was a great loss for music and it's great that it does exist in an original form. It's rock and roll with brains. A classic.

  • @jonnobloggs8642
    @jonnobloggs8642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bryan Wilson and Van Dyke Parks should have sneaked into Mike Love's room in late 1966 and bound ,tied and gagged him and locked him up until Smle had been released in 1967 .

  • @tommyjames3105
    @tommyjames3105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genuinely one of the best videos I've seen on the topic

  • @theeternaldreamer4411
    @theeternaldreamer4411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Psychedelic masterpiece. If you know, you know.

  • @charliestoops8815
    @charliestoops8815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honestly keep coming back to this again and again, one of my favorite’s of yours

  • @EditUnivers75
    @EditUnivers75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very informative as someone who is very knew to this band. I actually became interested in them after hearing some of their more avante garde works and learning about Paul McCartney's respect for them. I'm very much interested in these Smile sessions, and I would have never known the nuances unless I watched this video. Thank you for this!

  • @harvey1954
    @harvey1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Smile was the Boys trying to top Revolver. The fact that it didn't come out is part of the reason why Sgt. Pepper's seemed so revoluntionary.

    • @brainscott8198
      @brainscott8198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Smile" sounds as if Brian Wilson, in a manic phase of his bi-polarism, was answering The Beatles "Revolver", like Jack Nicholson's Joker character: "OK, Beatles, u wanna get nuts!!???..let's get nuts!!!"

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho ปีที่แล้ว

      the reason why Sgt Pepper's seemed revolutionary was because of the media, because it wasn't, there were other recordings from that time much more interesting and revolutionary

    • @harvey1954
      @harvey1954 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JulioLeonFandinho Like Pet Sounds.

    • @direkramseychikboy9102
      @direkramseychikboy9102 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were Beatles in there most cohesive years. They also had George Martin, Geoff Emerick, Brian Epstein and EMI with all out support. While The Beach Boys only had Brian Wilson alone.

    • @harvey1954
      @harvey1954 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@direkramseychikboy9102 Yes, I often wonder if Brian had had someone like George Martin whether that would have helped or hindered him. He was rather headstrong and I could see him clashing with Martin.

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Funny thing about Capitol records is nearly all my favourite bands were on that label--but they were hard, "old school" taskmasters that never changed their ways, even in the 70s and the advent of FM radio. This is the label that forced bands to put out THREE ALBUMS a year! Okay--as soon you get off this tour, you WILL go back into the studio and record another album. And as Brian so famously once said--"Creativity cannot be forced".

    • @jerrysimon6938
      @jerrysimon6938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's Capitolism for you... put out more and more product to get more and more profit :(

    • @impalaman9707
      @impalaman9707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jerrysimon6938 That was clever the way you said "Capitol-ism"😂

  • @ChristopherElli-cc1ly
    @ChristopherElli-cc1ly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Smile came out on January 15 1967 like Brian promised Capital Records, music of the 60s might have been different. Weird album? More like brilliant album

  • @pphaguss
    @pphaguss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the more fascinating theories about SMiLE is that it functions as a zen koan, or a type of riddle. There's a website dedicated to explaining the theory but I don't know if TH-cam will let me send it.

    • @nicorion-m9j
      @nicorion-m9j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just say what site very interested

    • @jkb1O5
      @jkb1O5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool! Thanks

    • @barstow_
      @barstow_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the website?

  • @ryuunosuk3
    @ryuunosuk3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this album. Smile and Pet Sounds are what got me into progressive/baroque pop. Cabinessense is my favorite track from Smile, but I can understand that it's lyrics are way too abstract, it just don't make any sense even though it sounds good. I listened to Song Cycle and I still don't know if Van Dyke Parks is a genius, very conceited or I'm just way too dumb.

  • @yansa1966
    @yansa1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a remarkably well put together video. Thanks.

  • @monkee5th
    @monkee5th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Brian was allowed to finish SMiLE in 1967 we would be calling The Beach Boys a major influence to music along side the Beatles but Micheal Love was a big reason for it not being finished as well as LSD and mental health issues sparked again by Love.

  • @ericengblade
    @ericengblade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To say the song surfs up is about nothing is super insulting to Van Dyke Parks and good songwriting in general. The words paint a picture and give a feeling. I don't understand why people don't get this. If you want to take them on a more literal level Van Dyke himself said that the first verse is about poverty and wealth. Also its about the loss of innocence (a big theme of the record). Thematically this collection of songs are super connected ... lyrically and musically (I would add, however, that BWPS does a much better job connecting the dots musically then the original record would have done...had it been released). I let the comment of vega-tables being just a song about good health slide (dude the song title gives it away that it is a play on words...vega tables are from Hinduism....also it fits with the theme of American history...think the chicago world's fair in 1893). But as soon as you said that you thought the lyrics of surfs up didnt mean anything you lost me.

  • @vincevirtua
    @vincevirtua 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brian could have absolutely put it out in 1967. It’s weirdness is fairly tame compared to some stuff from the time, Frank Zappa Freak Out, Beefheart etc. The music scene was getting far out and they could have been part of that. Besides, they put out Smiley Smile anyway which was weirder than Smile imo.

  • @Fontsman-14
    @Fontsman-14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mike Love should've been fired. He's always been an asshole.

  • @matthewrider5906
    @matthewrider5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brian, himself, has expressed that it was an Americana, "railroading across America" kind of album. Thought it was worth a mention 🤷

  • @petebest3609
    @petebest3609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should do a video on the other cancelled beach boys album, Adult/ Child 1978

  • @SeltaebEht
    @SeltaebEht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:17 So ... Brian asked Paul McCartney to chew on a celery for this track; Paul agreed but Brian actually never recorded him, and, somehow this myth still hasn't been debunked ????? :/

  • @davidschecter5247
    @davidschecter5247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most amazing "album" ever. In a class by itself, even in its bits and pieces.

  • @MrLandlocked
    @MrLandlocked 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This makes me want to tell you my favorite vegetable.

  • @tonyspoetry
    @tonyspoetry ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had Smile for years. Dont think I've ever listened to it properly. Must give it a spin.

  • @ErsatzMcGuffin
    @ErsatzMcGuffin ปีที่แล้ว

    NIce post! Enjoyed it. IMHO the way to hear SMiLE is to realize what it is. It is a "Beat Opera". The Beach Boys were ALWAYS reflecting, or maybe inspired by the art of the Beat Literary Movement. I Get Around to me sounds like it came from someone who read On the Road, same holds true for California Girls. God Only Knows is somewhat of a tribute to Kerouac's upbringing in the Catholic Church and the time he spent at the Grotto in Lowell Mass. Van Dyke Parks knew all the Beats work and reflected back to others really well. SMILE is a combo of novels from Kerouac, Maggie Cassidy, Big Sur and On The Road mostly. The Beatles did were doing the same thing. Creating art that reflected the Beat Movement. As far as the music goes it is widely accepted that Brian was a genus. The Beach Boys weren't the only band who were channelling the ideals written about by Kerouac and others. Their entire musical career has depended on reflecting back to us the idea's in Kerouac's art. Again IMHO. I am aware that art is in the eye, or ear of the beholder.

  • @jbarnes2288
    @jbarnes2288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is NO SUCH THING as an "urban legend"
    There are simply Legends
    or a Legend

  • @KRAZEEIZATION
    @KRAZEEIZATION ปีที่แล้ว

    This answered every question I had on the album in question. Well done. Excellent job.

  • @bluecalix
    @bluecalix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blaming his mental illness, anxiety and depression mostly on drugs is misplaced. He was mentally and physically abused by his father, bullied by Mike, and already unable to fly due to an anxiety induced nervous break down. He started using drugs to self medicate in a pressure filled environment absent any therapy to help him address these long standing issues. Absolutely his drug use made it worse, but it was not the cause.

  • @matthewrider5906
    @matthewrider5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this as a super-huge Brian Wilson fan, & to a slightly lesser degree, Beach Boys fan, as well! I'd love to have an album of SMiLE, templated after BWPS, consisting of the SMiLE sessions in every place possible, only filling in w/BWPS when absolutely necessary! I'd absolutely love that!
    But as for the theme, it was Americana, travelling from Plymouth Rock all the way to Hawaii, & many stops in between. Parks & Wilson have said that. And as for Mike killing SMiLE, Brian Wilson, himself, has said that Mike hated the record & helped kill it, so....

  • @imhappy5266
    @imhappy5266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    oddly enough, smile was my introduction to the beach boys. I was watching an interview many years ago of a trans women talking about finally getting gender affirming surgery. At one point she was talking about why she loves Surfs up so much, and I was just sucked into the album. An incredible unreleased treasure.
    (if anyone has a link to that video, I've looked for years and havnt found it, it would be much appreciated)

  • @rangergrrrl
    @rangergrrrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your vid is so good it almost makes me want to weep...but I'll SMiLE instead.

  • @ALittleBitCheesy
    @ALittleBitCheesy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23:25 this is a time stamp just for me to continue

  • @brodonamus
    @brodonamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it hurts me that we’ll never hear smile as it was originally intended to be released

  • @briancastillo5106
    @briancastillo5106 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the day I that I became a beach boys diehard fan was I was listening to pet sounds a 3rd time in a row while working as a day-porter for bk.

  • @jimhoelscher4444
    @jimhoelscher4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think your review is a fair and objective look at perhaps the most famous unreleased album of all time. I too love certain aspects of the album and it definitely showcases their talent for beautiful harmonies, melodies, and arrangement. I agree, the lyrics were a bit bizarre, eccentric, and unconventional. I think Brian would have been better served to work with someone else as a writing partner, perhaps Paul Simon, Burt Bacharach, Carole King or Mike Love. Brian and others say it was a three-part rock opera with an American manifest destiny and elements of the earth theme. Maybe Van Dyke's original thought was music that highlighted how American manifest destiny oppressed the Native Americans but there is Wonderful, Child is Father of the Man/ Surf's Up, You Are My Sunshine/Workshop, Good Vibrations etc... that doesn't really seem to fit that theme. I honestly believe it was an attempt to explain that there was a plan and a cohesive fabric that was holding this album together. I believe the original intent was that Good Vibrations would be on Pet Sounds but given the fact that Brian was constantly rearranging and splicing the song together looking for perfection and Capital Records demanding the release, it was left off of Pet Sounds. Once they released Good Vibrations and the huge success that followed, it was determined that Good Vibrations was the future model for million-selling Beach Boys records. As you stated very well, Smile was supposed to be an album full of Good Vibration like recordings, Heroes and Villains followed that formula but again the lyrics were as aforementioned, unconventional, and Avant Gard. Other groups of the day could get away with strange and weird but the Beach Boys ... not so much. Lastly, I actually enjoyed the Brian Wilson 2004 Smile release and with the assistance of Darian Sahanaja, it was put together in a way that flowed pretty well. Is it a three-part rock opera? Probably not, but still an enjoyable record albeit a strange diversion from the Beach Boys' signature music.

  • @iAmNovaFilms
    @iAmNovaFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Music history nerd in me must say that Our Prayer is not Gregorian chant, it’s much more similar to baroque era chromatic harmony

  • @beyondobscure
    @beyondobscure 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine what he'd be able to do if he had Audacity or something like that. Personally I feel that SMiLE would have never been finished, growing more ambitious constantly and would've collapsed no matter what, but it's nice to think of what could've been.

  • @garrethboland
    @garrethboland ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a friend say, "Pet Sounds is the greatest album ever recorded. SMiLE is the greatest THING ever recorded". hahah

  • @SuperHorseSense
    @SuperHorseSense ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, I just looked up Desbutal and holy shit. The stuff that used to be legal lol.

  • @familydogg1234
    @familydogg1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently you bought all versions of Smile?

  • @paulamiles9559
    @paulamiles9559 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ever notice how some of the best Beach Boy songs are bass driven? And who played the bass? Oh, yeah , Carol Kaye. Bob Lizik, Carl Wilson, Al.Jardine, Blondie Chaplin. Glen Campbell. And...Brian.

  • @danielsantana9448
    @danielsantana9448 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm lucky to say that I have scene Brian play both Pet Sounds and Smile . Amazing shows

  • @sheiladobbins1293
    @sheiladobbins1293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🌿❤️🌿 Brian Wilson is a creative masterpiece.

  • @THECLARENCES
    @THECLARENCES ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Smile” rules…period.
    xoxo The Clarences

  • @waffles6589
    @waffles6589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think the way to understand smile is that you can't understand it at all. it's supposed to be weird and random it's supposed to make you smile Heces the name. i feel like Brian made this Album for a select few of people only those people can understand the Album. the people that are as crazy as Brian. which is why i think it flopped among other reasons.

  • @mountart2
    @mountart2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a shame Van Dyke Parks and Brian didn't stick with the "American" theme from songs like Heroes & Villains, Cabin Essence, Our Prayer, Wind Chimes and Good Vibrations to create a more unified theme and a forbearer of things to come right around the decades corner with the "back to nature" Americana craze of the Band, Grateful Dead and Dylan.

  • @edwardking1312
    @edwardking1312 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smile is amazing ! So glad we have we have all the outtakes. Drugs really ruined the whole scene

  • @robertsteinberger5667
    @robertsteinberger5667 ปีที่แล้ว

    The interesting thing is that you can put your own Smile album together and choose which one you like most. For instance I prefer the Surf's up version a the end and with an instrumental intro. Unfortunately that version is hard to find, it is not on spotify for instance. And for me the cantina version of heroes and villains is the best. doo, doo, doo, heroes and villains!

  • @Blackadder75
    @Blackadder75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an European growing up with mostly UK artists I never cared much for American bands, except for two: The Doors and the Beach Boys, which I rate as highly as the many British well known rock bands like Queen, Zeppelin, Stones or those Insects from Liverpool . oh and Roy Orbison obviously, the greatest singer ever...
    I really love Smile, I find it better than any beatle album

  • @SamParker321
    @SamParker321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If this album came out music itself would be totally different today imo

  • @Icecreamforcrowtoo
    @Icecreamforcrowtoo ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't say they were "every bit as good as Brian." But they were good, yes. Especially Carl and Dennis.

  • @wow13rocks
    @wow13rocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video was in my recommended after clicking on a meme video of the beach boys. This was amazing and I am super interested in diving into the Beach Boys discography now. Great Video!

  • @surfohio
    @surfohio ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Vibrations alone would've at least carried the record commercially. But I believe SMiLE as a soundtrack paired with an artistic visual film in the vein of Pink Floyd's The Wall would've been a resounding success. Their trajectory would've skyrocketed.

  • @ethanht9668
    @ethanht9668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, this is a great video. Congratulations!

  • @louisskulnik7390
    @louisskulnik7390 ปีที่แล้ว

    SMiLE is the American Psychedelic Pastoral. Piper at the Gates of Dawn was the British.

  • @jladams85
    @jladams85 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should've used the original Smile track listing when dissecting the l.p. That 12 track basis was what it was intended to be, the layer sessions comp splits shit up to make it more in-depth I get it but y'know what I mean¿

  • @angelajones4193
    @angelajones4193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'To a handsome mannered baton...'

  • @zacthesnacdavidson
    @zacthesnacdavidson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my personal opinion, ‘Brian Wilson Presents: SMiLE’ is the greatest album ever made. In my personal opinion, it’s better than Sgt Peppers, Dark Side of the Moon, hell, even Pet Sounds. In my personal opinion of course

  • @truebeatlepeople
    @truebeatlepeople ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT DOCUMENTARY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. I AM A BEATLES FREAK BUT THE BB COME IN 2ND AND PET SOUNDS, SUNFLOWER AND SMILE ARE RIGHT UP THERE WITH REVOLVER AND PEPPER TO ME. HELL, THE WHITE ALBUM HAD SUPER WEIRDNESS AT TIMES ( WHAT WITH WILD HONEY PIE?) SO I THINK IF CAPITAL HAD ENLISTED SAY GEORGE MARTIN and paul mccartney to help finish it off, maybe adding musical interludes to tie it all together.... it might have worked that smile album. aLTHOUGH, 1966-67 IS NOT 2023 AND MOST KIDS STILL HAVE MILITARY CUTS LETS NOT FORGET. BRIAN WAS WAY AHEAD OF HIS TIME AND HE TOOK WAY TO MANY DRUGS AT THAT TIME AS WELL. NOT THE BEST COMBINATION. TO ME, SMILE IS A ALICE IN WONDERLAND AND/OR MEETS THE WIZARD OF OZ COMBO ( BUT WITH NOT THE SAME PROMOTION OR MASS APEAL). PERHAPS, IT WAS MEANT TO BE RELEASED 40 ODD YEARS LATER ..... PERHAPS ONLY NOW CAN WE YOUNGER DUDS APRECIATE SUCH A MASTERPEICE OR MASTERBATE... WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO TITLE IT. SURFS UP AND GOOD VIBRATIONS ARE STILL THE GREATEST SONGS EVER WRITTEN AND THATS ENOUGH FOR ME. HELL, WHY DIDENT THEY MAKE AN EP OF THE PROJECT INSTEAD? 5 SONGS MAX WITH SIDE TWO BEING THE LIVE LEID IN HAWAII THAT CAPITAL RECORDED IN 1967 MUST PRIOR TO SMILE RELEASE DATE? THAT MIGHT HAVE SOLD LIKE HOTCAKES. YES????

  • @Keining71
    @Keining71 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it odd you compare Heroes & Villans to I get Around. It's like comparing She loves you by the Beatles to Revolution no 9 on the white album. Interesting analogy.

  • @olzyolzmobile
    @olzyolzmobile 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, nice work, thanks!

  • @sugarsore
    @sugarsore ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To label Smile as "weird" is just inaccurate.

  • @pauldiffin4726
    @pauldiffin4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a milestone.

  • @Paul-dw2cl
    @Paul-dw2cl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:24 look at how perfect Bruce’s hair is there

  • @leesykes2839
    @leesykes2839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    weird in who's eyes? Mike Love no doubt !

  • @peggyannbreathe
    @peggyannbreathe ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this💗

  • @vertievertigoz
    @vertievertigoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome! This is a nice informative video! You should make a Beach Boys iceberg!

  • @stevenfunderburg1623
    @stevenfunderburg1623 ปีที่แล้ว

    Friendly suggestion? You should spend much more time on brilliant rock docs like this than children's television analysis. I do appreciate how your masterful use of graphics was clearly developed in the other videos, but man, I hope you will consider a hard pivot to Rock Town , cuz this was awesome sauce personified🤘🤘🤘 Or how about a compromise between the 2, like how the first 4 Carpenter's albums are pure whitebread genius with strong undercurrents of jazz fusion know how and how Steely Dan and The Carpenters were actually very similar (2 sides of a coin) but differed mostly in Steelys embrace of cynical hipster darkness and the Carpenters defiant (for that period) and sincere embrace of the Light Side! There's your whole outline 😉

    • @planetaryiam954
      @planetaryiam954  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your suggestion. I don't plan on dedicating my whole channel to one single topic, because that would limit the amount of content I could create. I like to think of this as a variety channel where I can cover multiple topics. That being said, I don't want this to be the only rock and roll history video I make. There's definitely more I can cover there. I'm not sure about the Carpenters or Steely Dan, but there's bound to be another subject like this one I can cover! Stay tuned.

    • @stevenfunderburg1623
      @stevenfunderburg1623 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@planetaryiam954 Right on!

  • @MrKenichi22
    @MrKenichi22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Video

  • @whatwilliswastalkingabout
    @whatwilliswastalkingabout 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn you sound like JP Sears!!
    Great video

  • @steven_uk
    @steven_uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In your intro, the volume of I Get Around is far louder than everything else.