LUMO - FIRST LOOK & REVIEW: Edinburgh to London from just £20!
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- Hello, and welcome back to another train trip report on my channel.
In this video I will be travelling on-board a Lumo UK Class 803 electric unit from Edinburgh Waverley to London King's Cross, aboard the inaugural public service of Lumo.
Lumo is an open-access rail operation, and part of FirstGroup, which launched in October 2021 on the route between Edinburgh and London. One of the main selling points is the service's low cost, which has led to it being a sell-out success.
Enjoy the video. :)
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Journey Details:
Origin: Edinburgh Waverley
Destination: London King's Cross
Company: Lumo
Train: UK Class 803
Accommodation: Standard Class Seat (2nd)
Distance: 393 miles / 632 kilometres
Price: £13.10 (€15.55 / $18.00)
Time: 4h37m - 5E
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PLEASE NOTE: If you require subtitles to view this video, I will add those as soon as I have the chance. Thanks for your patience. 🙏
I don't need this,but it helps me. I can have these,but no need
The seats look like the ones on LNER 225 sets
The auto-generated ones are already very good with just a few misunderstandings 😅
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You are exceptionally well spoken. It is a pleasure listening to you.
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Thank you! :)
I was thinking that.
Using M&S food makes perfect sense as you are plugging into an organisation that is delivering a quality and level of choice in far greater volumes than a relatives small train operator could ever command, thus offering a much more reliable supply.
When Superalbs likes an IET, you know it's a good video.
This is very true 😅
Very true :))
This isn't an IET. It's a Class 803. IET's only operate with GWR
@@jmgrahit26 LNER?
@@ConfusedOxygen LNER operate Azumas, not IETs. They are similar, but not identical, trains.
As one of five who semi-frequently travels to Dundee to visit relatives, this is a game-changer. Ticket prices for five of us have always been annoying, and the level of comfort offered on these trains seems to be far better than that of LNER. It would be far cheaper for us to get a Lumo service to Waverley, and then complete the last hour leg to Dundee with Scotrail.
That makes sense, hope you enjoy it!
Low cost carries are always appreciated and Lumo, for now ticks all the boxes in terms of service and comfort nevertheless, let's observe how long they will be able to maintain the price, service and comfort.
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I love and hate Europe. I was fascinated by the stunning scenery and rich history, but I was overwhelmed by the high cost. I think TRIP's discount coupon saved me.
Due to a bug, Morpeth is the only station that generates lumo departures on google maps. I think the purpose of Morpeth is for passengers getting picked up, and driver’s convenience. Morpeth is the closest station to the motorway, at least in the north. It also allows drivers to bypass all the Newcastle traffic to board/disembark lumo trains without first taking another train to Newcastle, and changing there.
Your videos are so much improved by voice over , it allows the subscriber to fully concentrate on watching the action instead of being distracted by reading the screen words .
Thanks, I really agree, hoping to do more in the future. :)
Have you seen my other voiceover video? 😁
personally i prefer with subtitles because i find the station and train sounds extremely relaxing (and as i’m not english i understand way much better when i read)
Ended up being recommended this today. I recently did my first journey on the operator.
As with all AT-300s, the train is not one I want to like, but when its valued so low in ticket price, and is the best seating the type has in the UK, despite no First Class being provided, it speaks volumes.
Then again, when you refuse to let the DfT affect your interior (because they spec'd the 803s to be the same as the others initially, but Lumo wanted better), that's what happens.
But I wanted to say, you hit the nail on the head when you said how Lumo clearly understand what passengers WANT from a train service. That is something I think should be adopted by all TOCs, rather than charging folks upwards of 150 quid for on the day returns across the UK, when that could get you a month's travel in Europe
Did you travel with Dylan? The opening photography was nearly identical to his video which was released yesterday. I also recognize the parent telling their child to say bye bye to Edinburgh.
I noticed that as well and thought I was watching a video I’d seen before!
Me too !
I'd just watched Dylan's report and and recognised that same parent :)
The two are friends, so wouldn't surprise me if they caught the first Lumo train together.
And I believe Nonstop eurotrip is also friends with them
It's good to see that lumo got the seats right. I like the class 800s/802s in some ways, but the seats really let them down, despite fire regulations, good seats are still possible. The other day when I was coming back to Bath from London, the little cushioning in the seat has pretty much collapsed, leaving me with hard horizontal bar pressing into my thighs. Come on GWR, sort it out!
They are so much better on Lumo than the other terrible ones.
@@SuperalbsTravels though I think the choice to order 5 coach trains is questionable to say the least. GWR short-forms trains heading out of London quite a lot and this is very annoying. It also limits they're room to grow and it seems like a short-term cost-cut which could easily come back to bite them when they can't capitalize on as much of the market as they would otherwise be able to. I wish there was an open access operator operating along the Great Western Mainline, GWR is one of the most expensive operators and while it's not the worst, I think it's a below average service
Good to see a new budget train company. Lets hope they start offering services on the West Coast line from Euston.
That would be interesting, maybe after HS2 there will be more room.
ye we can hope but a operator did try to get a franchise for that but got rejected so its not sure it can happen.
this is only the beginning. if lumo's business model is proved successful then it can start competing against planes on all sorts of domestic routes
Lumo is operated by First Group who already run (badly) the services on teh West Coast Main Line (& TPE) - they will hardly start a service in competition to themselves
@@SuperalbsTravels lol
Another lovely, professionally done video. You do a wonderful job of covering all the options for services offered and more. Thank you so much for creating these videos!
This is an informed guess: there's a major speed restriction through Morpeth because of the sharp curve in the line so the increase in journey time from adding a stop is almost negligible.
I used Lumo in January 2024 when visiting Newcastle. Sure enough, the lack of luggage luggage space seemed to be an issue. The train filled almost to capacity at Kings Cross, being a detriment to the trains short length, but the shortage of space for luggage nearly resulted in fisticuffs breaking out between other passengers over the use of the luggage space. Credit to the onboard staff though, they resolved the situation, as far as I could tell
The lady with bagpipes was amazing.
It was such a nice touch! 🤩
It stops at Morpeth (and I think Stevenage too - in the future) because one of their aims is to call at stations which would usually not be served by most operators giving the places with little rail service an improvement. Stations such as Morpeth and Stevenage don’t receive as many stopping services as other stations so I can understand why they would do this.
It was a condition of their franchise not to take existing customers from LNER. They are offering an alternative to flying between London and Edinburgh hence why there are few stops
@@benalowery I wasn’t comparing the two, all I was simply saying was (from what I’ve heard) why they call at the additional stations.
@@benalowery ye but really thats inevitable as Lumo is much better with seats and as you say is much faster so ye ofc LNERp assengers might use Lumo as an alternative.
Morpeth is the county town of Northumberland and should have a decent rail service.
@@jonathanoldfield869 good thing they’re bringing more services to it!
You look handsome.
18:24 Well, I think in the last decade low-cost train operators were created & they're now blowing up in terms of passengers (SNCF's Ouigo in Spain & France, Renfe's Avlo in Spain, Izy in the Paris-Brussels-Amsterdam line & Flixtrain in Germany) like low-cost airlines (Ryanair, for example) in the early 2000s.
P.S: Video's score: 8.1
Thank you Pedro, very sweet. 😍
I think Lumo is gonna attract lots of passengers, as their trains are a massive step up to Lner small touches like the reading light above the seat table is lovely. Nice lumo! Thanks for the review albs!
I agree, it certainly is successful so far. Thanks. :)
Hmmm... Are you and Dylan low-key collaborating? I'm here for it! I'm a subbie of you both anyway! 😄
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Definitely a good looking train and smart as well.
The seats certainly look an improvement over the first three 800 classes.
Don't get me wrong I also like those engines but the seats on them pale in comparison to them.
I've never been on any of those three or the lumo 800 but the seats always looked a bit stiff on the first 800 classes.
The TPE 803 nova 1 Seats were pretty good for an 800 class but this is definitely an improvement.
Hopefully the future 800s get seats like this.
I heard the former three 800 classes may be getting overhauls at some point to hammer out any problems they have and improve them, if they do this they should add these seats to them.
If they do get overhauls and are improved maybe you could review them and see what you think.
Good video & featured what looks like a grand service . I was surprised by the low price of the journey & impressed by the offerings on board . Look forward to seeing some more videos .
One technical difference between the 801s used by LNER and the 803s used by LUMo are the emergency option, the 801s having a backup diesel engine and the 803s having battery power
The extra batteries are only for control circuits - not traction.
@@robertmorley9748 didn't know that, but now I do
My biggest issue is the lack of a stop at York. LNER will never improve unless there's true competition. In fact Lumo trains now use the York avoider (mixed in with the freight) to avoid embarrassing LNER.
True, but I don't think they would be allowed to stop there for the sake of preventing competition... :(
I am sure Lumo would be happy to stop at York, but LNER and Network Rail do not want direct competition.
that Ambassador service is definitely inspired by air travel !
I’ve been on LNER first class to Scotland and back to London I was very impressed with the service I received and loved the train too plus hot meals on board!
Nice work - makes me miss the UK. Quite interesting to compare different trip reports on Lumo ... first Dylan, then Simply Railway, now yours and I believe Geoff Marshall's is coming too. :)
Thank you, come back soon! :)
@@SuperalbsTravels Hopefully … Australia’s borders are gradually reopening so it should be possible. 🥳
@@FromtheWindowSeat I saw in the news, it's good to see at last!
This was exactly the sort of service that was envisaged when we privatised the railways, sadly the Government colluded with the main operators monopolistic practices and there have been as a result very few open access services and those are achieved only after years of negotiation with Network Rail, by which time the main operator has changed it's timetable and pricing to squeeze out the open access operation.
Beautiful New Blue Train... Very Clear Narration, thanks. Fantastic trip..!
Thanks, really glad that you enjoyed.
Morpeth is an 'upper-crust' commuter dormitory for Newcastle . . . PS pronounced 'morpth', not 'morepeth'. Pleasant place.
Really enjoyed with the voiceover! Would be happy for it to be a permanent fixture of the videos! Keep up the good work :)
Thank you, eventually it will! :)
Great video and good to see what you look like in person !
Definitely going to booking a trip on a LUMO
Hope you enjoy it then, let me know how it goes!
@@SuperalbsTravels probably won’t be until January 2022 now
Fair enough. I saw £20 available last night for today actually!
@@SuperalbsTravels ahh that’s a really good price if you can travel with that much notice
Thank you so much for this vídeo. It is all I needed to decide how to Go to London from Edinburgh.
I'm going to use the service next spring and summer hopefully I can get a good deal excellent video allbs nice to see a Face to the video and actuall commentary is better than the words on screen keep up the excellent work and stay safe
Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Very fair video, pointing out some of the downsides as well as the Lumo pluses. The lack of luggage space is a real problem if you are going for more than a day return. Some of us oldies haven't the strength to lift heavy luggage onto the overhead racks. Aeroplanes also have massive luggage holds, so can minimise the cabin luggage. Having mainly airline style seating loses much of the luggage capacity. I was on the inaugural run as far as Newcastle, and the delay in departure was mainly people trying to lodge their luggage when space had run out.
It was okay for me, as I just had a small bag, but not everyone travels light.
Hi Superalbs Travels, there is no First Class and no Cafe Bar buffet counter aboard Lumo Hitachi Class 803 trains. The interior layout of the seating seems to virtually be the same as First Great Western/GWR former High Density Mark 3 trailer vehicles in the High Speed Train/InterCity 125 sets. It is nice to finally see an improved seat design aboard the Hitachi Class 800 family.
Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce, St Albans. Hertfordshire.
Agree that the layout is similar. Thanks for watching.
I love how, at 0:54 the train was on the road. Dangerou
That’s a tram, mate. Clearly you’re from Leeds
That’s a tram, and darkly I’m from Leeds and I know that’s a tram 🙄
Nice blue train!
Gorgeous train in they deep blue color.
Let's hope with the way Indian railways are being upgraded and we see such things in India.
There are several high density routes within 250 km between capitals of various states in India
Trains make more sense in Europe because the distance aren't that much so you'll actually spend more time reaching and checkin at airport than actually flying
It doesn't actually rain much in Yorkshire, at least relatively. The West side of the Pennines is very wet, and most of the rain on the prevailing SW wind is precipitated there, leaving the East side much drier. That's generally true of this island anyway - wet West, dry East. Not as dry as the Sahara, but I did say relatively,
I have hardly watched your video but like the channel but none the least great video and I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and happy and safe new year .
Seems to me that, apart from the lack of an adjustable seat, the Lumo service knocks GWR First Class into a cocked hat!
100% agreed!
Enjoyed your video, Lumo looks interesting. We will consider next time my wife and I are travelling to and from Edinburgh. Suggestion: it might be helpful to also quote the non discounted regular rail fares that a traveler from outside the UK (such as myself) would pay if visiting.
I look forward to watching more of your rail journeys.
Kind regards, Angus.
Hi Angus.
It depends how far you book in advance.
The cheaper fixed Advance Singles go very early on in the booking period, trains generally open up for booking 3 months before, so the most reasonable fares will be found then.
At 12;53, when you comment on the stunning views of Newcastle, you are actually pointing the camera at Gateshead. Beware of marauding Geordies 😀.
Uh-oh, that sounds worrying haha!
I Love Lumo!!!
Me too! 🥰
'The Booking Office' at Waverley is worth a visit. It's a very historic building (big crest inside the doors) and now a useful Wetherspoon's pub.
I wish it stopped at Durham… it would make a lots of students happy!
Nice review. I'm tempted to try out the service at some point. The seats look quite comfortable with plenty of legroom. The only thing I wouldn't like is if I ended up in one of those seats between the windows where you can't see a thing. Often the case with modern rolling stock and one of the reasons I travel in first class for long distance journeys if I can get a good deal by booking in advance. I have a break in Edinburgh planned for next year so I may do one way with LNER and return with Lumo or vice versa.
Thanks! I suppose you could always sit in the unreserved carriage to find a better seat?
3:55 Well, from the looks of it the steps into the train look disfunctional. Not being at half the difference between floor and platform levels and then even not level with the carriage floor. Are they defect? Or a bad design?
Yes, a face reveal!
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So, just looked at the cost of a return ticket for 2 departing Newcastle to King’s Cross - erm £278!!
Thank you for sharing. I haven't ridden on a Lumo train yet❤ By the way I know a discount can find cheaper tickets, if someone needs, I am happy to share ❤
Haha, you should let us know! :)
Cool voiceover and face reveal aswell you're growing fast keep it up and I hope you become the most popular one day like I pledge to be a well know train driver and youtuber xd
Thank you lol!
Yes it looked good
As I go kinks-cross to Newcastle upon Tyne
First class enjoyed Resturant both leaving
With breakfast and return
Dinner comfortable way to travel I did this quite a bit as to visit family
Coffee and tea served in cups saucers not plastic
This was fantastic… keep it up! Could this be the rail of the future?
Thank you so much, glad you liked it!
Sad not first class inspite of that looks good offering guess it will be pretty full on those Prices great Offering Lumo
I'm sad to report that the tickets have now risen. Cheapest ticket on the Lumo website was £46. Those prices couldn't have been that dreamy forever :(
We will be traveling to Edinburgh from Toronto this summer. We'll take the train to London after a few days. Is there room for our luggage close to the seats? Thank you for this video. It's perfect and just what I needed to see 😀
I wrote that before the end of the video. I was reading that there is a size restriction on the size of the luggage hmmm
You’ll be glad to know that Avanti have opted for the same style seating as Lumo for their 805/807 fleet.
Yep, a big relief to everyone!
@@SuperalbsTravels I Hope GWR & LNER, Transpennine Express & Hull Trains Replace Their Seats With Lumos Seats
Nice review! Many thanks 😊
Thanks, hope you enjoyed it. Will you consider using Lumo? 😃
Looks great!
I find train travel (even HS) very relaxing. I love seeing the stations in the UK, they are always picturesque. If you can find a train station in the US, they look like rubbish. Dirty, poorly maintained, designed by a Soviet 5-year planner whose only design tools were a straightedge and concrete, no appeal whatsoever.
It's time for a cheap train service from North to South we need more of these trains for example a train from Cambridge to London King's Cross or Liverpool Street I think one way ticket peak time is around £40
Wow, that's crazy!
Nice vid keep it going
I agree about the price but on the few occasions I have travelled with them I feel passengers are packed in like sardines which for me makes it an uncomfortable journey. You are not wrong about luggage space you have to be the first on the train if you want to use the luggage rack. You need minuscule luggage if you want to use the overhead racks, as for food I always bring a meal deal with me. Overall I prefer LNER and only use lumo when money is tight.
man I wish lumo would serve Devon
Lumo sounds like a really odd name for a open access operator run by First Group. Will some of the Class 803s stop at Stevenage northbound and southbound. Despite LNER, Thameslink and Great Northern mostly serve Stevenage.
It stands for Luminous and Motion I think
@@cmtransportvids its luminosity i think
i think they will do especially when they increase the number of trains..thats the plan..... although for me personally this kinda defeats the object of a direct train service..
Thanks for the interest information.
I wasn't expecting such a good review. There could be opportunity for Lumo me thinks. James Galliel.
Looks good to me
man I remember your old profile the class 755 :D memories
Ah yes! It was a 745 at Stratford, taken 3rd March 2020, if I am not mistaken.
@@SuperalbsTravels nice! :D
I'm sorta surprised you didn't mention the IET when comparing the seats to lumo 😅
Also the reason lumo stops at morpeth is because only a few LNER services stop there and that's it. I also wish it stopped near Leeds (maybe like Harrogate) so i could experience it but I would have to go all the way for Newcastle.
Btw I know I am saying a lot but on Google Maps I see that lumo MIGHT stop at Doncaster so that might make the first station in the UK to have 8 operators in a single station
A stop at Harrogate would probably add an hour maybe 2 to the journey time as it’s not on the ECML.
Well they're all the same terrible seat, except this one which is good. :)
And thanks for the tip about Morpeth. Lumo stop at Doncaster on a few weekends in the future due to diversions.
@@SuperalbsTravels the seats on the 803s are better than the ones on 800s and 802s
@@Cactus732 tbh I'm not bothered about what mainline it's on I'm bothered about the comfort and where it stops 4 me
@@uzmaullah1432 it would make it really annoying for other people though, with the increased journey time you’d be better off just getting the LNER service
Is there an efficient way to find/buy the cheapest or best train ride between London and Edinburgh (or any other UK train trip) or do you have to go manually shop & compare?
I have to tell you all, as an American I would pay the low fairs of Lumo, but I would also pay the prices for LNER as Amtrak most often is a lot more expensive. As an example; Boston to Washington DC is as much as $78 for a coach class, (second/economy class) ticket, and as much as about $260 for the cheapest sleeper ticket.
The low fares mentioned are only an introductory offer until the end of November and they have already sold out. If you try and book now you will find that their prices are more or less the same as LNER
True Mr. Lowery, but still as I mentioned, a lot better than Amtrak which is $78 for coach/ second/economy.
USA🤝U.K. 🤝Shit rail systems
safe to say the prices havent aged well
Enjoyed the video I recommend doing LNER longest route to London from Inverness
Blimey, that sounds horrible! Maybe. 🤔
hi, love the electric loco on the other side of the platform..lumo is just firstgroup in disguise which has a reputation for packing them in,passengers do not want these airline style seats,did anyone ask us what we wanted?just look at a mk1 open coach thats what we call a good design.no buffet car and pre ordered food that takes the P. great video, thanks for warning us about this train
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed. To be fair, it is a budget service, so I am happy with the standards for the price.
I was surprised to see many American restaurants and snacks that were available.
Hey, "Superalbs"! How's it going? I've seen you on Dylan's video!
So, are you also making voiceover videos? Man, it's absolutely great! I'mma use your voiceover videos to practise listenning to reach the fluency in British English, like as I do with Dylan's Travel videos... It's fantastic, cheers a lot!!
Apropos of nothing, I understand all words that you've spoken, it's amazing, because I don't need subtitles, which shows me that I'm doing up and reaching the goals, bloke!! One more time, cheers for it!!
Awesome video! Success for you, ever!! Regards from São Paulo City, Brazil.
P.S.: Songs brought more life for your videos, I like it! Thumbs up!
Hi, thanks for the comment! I'm glad you understand my voice, I have tried to speak clearly to improve accessibility globally. :)
These voiceover videos will be the future of my content, as I find it easier to express myself in them, and feel I can make a more immersive video as a result.
However, they will not happen immediately, as I am still learning, so it will be a bit of both until then. :)
Thanks again!
How about the bike spaces? You mentioned them on the GWR IETs
Were they any better?
They are of the same design unfortunately.
A very good idea to travel to Edinburgh at a reasonable train fare
13:10 Grand Central doesn't stop at Darlington
I like how you and the other train reviews are different on the same lines.
Thanks, would be boring if we all did the same thing! :)
an overall excellent travel option
I have to agree! Thanks for watching.
The pricing is outstanding! An equivalent trip from Boston to Washington DC costs $319USD.
Woah that’s a large sum.
Would u like to experience the metropolitan commute train service especially in Europe , north-eastern america and Australia, hope u do this after just focusing on the long distance rail, btw Europe railway is fantastic, much better than my country does
Cheap travel, is ON TIME. Plus luggage space, Charging ports and padded seats. Clear winner over LNER for me.
train companies are really missing a trick of partnering with nearby restraunts or chains to provide meals on board
The seats are deffo the BIG selling point for Lumo succeeding as an operator
I wish Lumo would operate on the West Coast Main Line. They would wipe the floor with the awful Avanti.
Hi which side of the train going to Edinburgh has nice view? Left or right?
I'd probably choose right.
Impressive value for money
Certainly, thanks for watching. :)
I’m in Australia trying to find a price from Kings Cross to Wavered. It does my head in. They vary so much. I can’t book in advance either.
Great video. I like the lumO trains they look fantastic in blue livery and very interesting the lumO only have standard class not first class
It's certainly a different service to what we're used to in the UK!
Hi , Dose the same train bring you back the same day with no change overs , take care .
Hitachi rolling stock says it all.
I'm an American. I am on their site testing to book a ticket. I'm confused because a price up top in purple gives a cheap price but I cannot fins that price anywhere as I scroll down. Any help is appreciated.
The only reason for me to travel by flight to Edinburgh is how late I could leave from London, unfortunately all trains leave quite early from London.
So a 'budget' train is more comfortable than the legacy inheritors
Bizarre, but true! Lumo would be my preferred option, even if they cost more... 😅
I could tell you were in the same coach as Dylan's travel reports from the kid saying bye to Edinburgh
Thanks for letting me play!