Being a precessional DJ for 20 years and IEM nerd in terms of sound quality, THS REVIEW nailed this description perfectly. i tested these out in the shop 2 seperate times before committing to them. The sound is better than the sennheiser momentum 2 and 3 (which i currently use) The bass and sound space on the 8000's are way better but the deal breaker for me was the lack of volume on both of my DAP'S. If they update the firmware with 20% more volume ill buy them immediately..
@@5DLit thanks. I just ordered them but I am now concerned because I like my music to be loud. One thing about TH-cam reviewers is they rarely mention volume. I think only one does is Floss. Thanks for the heads up. At least I can return them if the volume is not up to par.
Still thinking about these but; while they do support Snapdragon Sound, they don’t appear to go the full nine yards by supporting aptx lossless. The same can be said if the Sfax Spirit S3 headphones, which still sound terrific when paired with the Zenfone 9. Never the less it was not great to discover aptx lossless is missing and my enthusiasm has dipped since finding out.
Thank you guys for saving me A$500 as I was literally in my way to the store to get them but figured to check your channel and I am very glad I did. Although I am a collector of TWS and invested heavily in Apple eco system your unbiased review just saved me A$500 for SE8000 with let’s say primitive amenities virtually in every department and trivial sound at best unless you have a snap dragon phone or DAC audio player that’s a deal breaker for me for that kind of cash despite having a snap dragon dedicated DAC I can and have found no compromise much better even at audiophile sound quality level TWS in my collection that does not feel like I have a pair of chopsticks stuck in my ears just because final want to cash in the growing TWS market banking on their name. Red flags for me everywhere thanks to Rohan no nonsense review. Thanks again Rohan and Kevin keep up the great work you guys.
I saw these in person when I was abroad (from the US) in May this year. They were pretty nice. The tech there was also so cool. I wanted to buy so much headphones and earbuds lol some were for aesthetic reasons, and then functional ones. I ended up landing on in-ear earbuds from audio technica. I was looking for something domestic made, company wise I guess. The tech with it is great, and the sound is also nice. I think I paid around 150-200 usd. Standard touch on the outer shell, by tapping. They come with an accompanying app, that is also pretty nice and impressive. Honestly didn't think the earbuds did a lot of features it has lol til I started the app and connected them. I don't think you'd need to get the app (it's free), but it would enhance the experience. But, I wanted these other ones I saw. They were like double and a half of the cost, almost 300-400 usd, for in ear buds... I decided against them to buy other things, but I also wanted to wait for the Sony xm5's to go on sale, which should be soon for "cyber Monday" 🤷
Seems like a niche use TWS, there is plenty of room in the market for products like this. There are no shortage of cheaper buds with a full range of features, those will be right for some people but not all TWS need to have the same feature set.
It's like this video was made for me! Thank you!! I have a pair of IE 200's that I use with an S22 Ultra that doesn't support Snapdragon Sound because Samsung is scummy and only wants you to buy earbuds in their ecosystem. Love love love my IE 200's and wanted a wireless alternative -- I think I'll skip this one. Even if the MK2's came out, I am waiting for the day when I don't need to spend more than $150 for wireless audiophile sound **with LDAC**
In Canada, if I wanted to buy them, I couldn't. As usual, Canada gets hosed for new product - what's new eh? 😉. Great critique lads! I would have watched it live but TH-cam thought it would be cool to send me a notification for the new content twenty minutes after you had literally finished the live portion. Freaking TH-cam lads. Freaking TH-cam.
i own galaxy buds pro and i like them very badly and i broke them sadly . now i am planning to get me a sennhiser ie200 . can you tell me that can i get similar sound like galaxy buds pro by sennhiser ie200 because i want the same sound like galaxy buds pro in wired earphone . i will use it for movies and music listning [not an audiophile]
Oh man, i thought mine was defective when I first heard that waterfall sound from my earbuds during in transparency mode all this time. Finally cleared out, thanks buddy!
When I see this kind of earbuds at this kind of price (for only 2-3 hours of battery 🔋 life , so 1-2 hours max after 1 year of use), I think that, you really have to have a lot of money and above all be a real sound snob 🤧 If people were really looking for hifi sound first and foremost over tws, Airpods would never have sold 🤷🏽♂️ It's true that tws it's for music, but it's also and above all for convenience that people use them, and for 99.99% of people, the audio quality of $50-$80 earbuds like, Earfun Air S, JBL Live Pro 2, Tozo Nc2... is more than enough, and mostly have a much better🔋.
Wow, what a shame they seem to be such a let down! It seems to be so hard to find a good pair of wireless earbuds these days. Cambridge Audio Melomania were my first, and they were disappointing all round. Sony WF-XM003 or whatever they're called had a terrible fit. Samsung Galaxy Buds Pro had a great sound and ANC but terrible fit, even with aftermarket tips. Sennheiser Momentum 3 had amazing sound and decent ANC and great fit, but terrible connection issues. Finally on the market for some, see these Finals, seeing as I really like the E5000s, I thought I'd research these. Turns out they're naff. Brilliant...
Man, these sounded so promising but as your video progressed the more I was turned off. That much white-noise, lack of non-anc, locked into snapdragon sound, etc make them pretty useless for most audiophiles, even if they are flat. I've been using Sony's NW-A306 DAP the last month and wired IEMs. I was really hoping these would give me a wireless alternative but I'll pass. Thanks for your usual honesty. It saves a lot of money and mistakes.
BOOOO. I perked up when I heard Final had earbuds, but alas. For that price, the call function sounds tedious..and no multipoint ! Waaaat?? But thank you Mr Pop Pop Popsicle. I only discovered your channel 3 days ago, but I am diving through most of your earbuds reviews at the moment. It's time to upgrade from my 3 year old Lypertek L3.
Audiophile: def: a hi-fi enthusiast. Anyone listening to music is an audiophile. Now that we got the mystery out of the word, these are the butt ugliest buds since the Microsoft Surface buds. It's like you can stand on the corner and people use you as a traffic light. lol. Hard pass
"Anyone listening to music is an audiophile". As an audiophile and speaker builder, I couldn't disagree more. I know many people who listen and enjoy music more than me and most of them simply do not care about sound quality. I call them lo-fi enthusiasts.
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Being a precessional DJ for 20 years and IEM nerd in terms of sound quality, THS REVIEW nailed this description perfectly. i tested these out in the shop 2 seperate times before committing to them. The sound is better than the sennheiser momentum 2 and 3 (which i currently use) The bass and sound space on the 8000's are way better but the deal breaker for me was the lack of volume on both of my DAP'S. If they update the firmware with 20% more volume ill buy them immediately..
Did you end up buying them? You said you committed to them but then mention deal breaker because of volume
@@badbeatking80 right , no.... what i meant to say was i tested them out thoroughly before i decide to commit. dont buy
if you need decent volume.
@@5DLit thanks. I just ordered them but I am now concerned because I like my music to be loud.
One thing about TH-cam reviewers is they rarely mention volume. I think only one does is Floss.
Thanks for the heads up. At least I can return them if the volume is not up to par.
@@badbeatking80 yes i agree the volume is usually overlooked.
let me know what you think when you get to listlen.
Still thinking about these but; while they do support Snapdragon Sound, they don’t appear to go the full nine yards by supporting aptx lossless. The same can be said if the Sfax Spirit S3 headphones, which still sound terrific when paired with the Zenfone 9. Never the less it was not great to discover aptx lossless is missing and my enthusiasm has dipped since finding out.
Use LDAC, way better
@@skankhunt420 LDAC Jones would not disagree!👍🏽
Donkeys have ridiculously magnanimous ears DHRME ❤
Looks like Final Audio needs some new engineering blood on there staff.
I don't think you need another channel for topics like codecs, you know what you're talking about and people wanna hear it right here 😘
Thank you guys for saving me A$500 as I was literally in my way to the store to get them but figured to check your channel and I am very glad I did. Although I am a collector of TWS and invested heavily in Apple eco system your unbiased review just saved me A$500 for SE8000 with let’s say primitive amenities virtually in every department and trivial sound at best unless you have a snap dragon phone or DAC audio player that’s a deal breaker for me for that kind of cash despite having a snap dragon dedicated DAC I can and have found no compromise much better even at audiophile sound quality level TWS in my collection that does not feel like I have a pair of chopsticks stuck in my ears just because final want to cash in the growing TWS market banking on their name. Red flags for me everywhere thanks to Rohan no nonsense review.
Thanks again Rohan and Kevin keep up the great work you guys.
A lot of other reviewers have recommended though…
Yeah you should do video about codec!
Damn, I love the UX3000 and got interested in other Final Audio products, but that's a bummer.. gonna stay with my headphones for now sadly
I saw these in person when I was abroad (from the US) in May this year. They were pretty nice. The tech there was also so cool.
I wanted to buy so much headphones and earbuds lol some were for aesthetic reasons, and then functional ones. I ended up landing on in-ear earbuds from audio technica. I was looking for something domestic made, company wise I guess. The tech with it is great, and the sound is also nice. I think I paid around 150-200 usd. Standard touch on the outer shell, by tapping. They come with an accompanying app, that is also pretty nice and impressive. Honestly didn't think the earbuds did a lot of features it has lol til I started the app and connected them. I don't think you'd need to get the app (it's free), but it would enhance the experience.
But, I wanted these other ones I saw. They were like double and a half of the cost, almost 300-400 usd, for in ear buds... I decided against them to buy other things, but I also wanted to wait for the Sony xm5's to go on sale, which should be soon for "cyber Monday" 🤷
You guys do great in depth reviews keep up the great work, cant wait for your Raycon ear bud review
How do these compare to the Devialet Gemini 2?
Seems like a niche use TWS, there is plenty of room in the market for products like this. There are no shortage of cheaper buds with a full range of features, those will be right for some people but not all TWS need to have the same feature set.
It's like this video was made for me! Thank you!! I have a pair of IE 200's that I use with an S22 Ultra that doesn't support Snapdragon Sound because Samsung is scummy and only wants you to buy earbuds in their ecosystem. Love love love my IE 200's and wanted a wireless alternative -- I think I'll skip this one. Even if the MK2's came out, I am waiting for the day when I don't need to spend more than $150 for wireless audiophile sound **with LDAC**
My puny IEM cable clip is inadequate, I want a better one with audiophile grade and hires sticker.
Budget is around $500, any idea?
Love the merch! Great video..
Thanks! :)
Hey friend. How much better do you guys think the IE200 is better than the best TWS like the Beoplay ex in terms of sound😊?
I got the beoplay ex the best earbuds i ever heard but ima try the sennhieser ie 200 hope they dont dissapoint since they are wired
@@briannunez3841 I got the ex too, they are very nice. That why I am afraid the ie200 will not exceed the ex much. The price is right there.
@5:44 when in doubt pull out 😂😅yea that’s what she said 😂 Gooo Rohan !!!
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A video about codec fragmentation seems like a great idea!
What about the new one mk2
I hope you guys reviewing Jbl tour one m2 (the headphones not the earbuds), anyway, keep going guys I like what you’re doing❤
In Canada, if I wanted to buy them, I couldn't. As usual, Canada gets hosed for new product - what's new eh? 😉. Great critique lads! I would have watched it live but TH-cam thought it would be cool to send me a notification for the new content twenty minutes after you had literally finished the live portion. Freaking TH-cam lads. Freaking TH-cam.
Haha. No problem, we'll try and go live more often!
They’re available at Bay Bloor
Also Headphone Bar now, CA$469. Businesses catching up with the hype lol.
@@marsenark which ones? The final audio is a few thousand.
Canada computers carry them
Please, review the final z8000 MK2!
i own galaxy buds pro and i like them very badly and i broke them sadly . now i am planning to get me a sennhiser ie200 . can you tell me that can i get similar sound like galaxy buds pro by sennhiser ie200 because i want the same sound like galaxy buds pro in wired earphone . i will use it for movies and music listning [not an audiophile]
Oh man, i thought mine was defective when I first heard that waterfall sound from my earbuds during in transparency mode all this time. Finally cleared out, thanks buddy!
That would be a good idea
When I see this kind of earbuds at this kind of price (for only 2-3 hours of battery 🔋 life , so 1-2 hours max after 1 year of use), I think that, you really have to have a lot of money and above all be a real sound snob 🤧
If people were really looking for hifi sound first and foremost over tws, Airpods would never have sold 🤷🏽♂️
It's true that tws it's for music, but it's also and above all for convenience that people use them, and for 99.99% of people, the audio quality of $50-$80 earbuds like, Earfun Air S, JBL Live Pro 2, Tozo Nc2... is more than enough, and mostly have a much better🔋.
Agreed! Convenience of multipurpose use is a huge factor. Use it for music, for calls, to cut out background noise etc.
Wow, what a shame they seem to be such a let down! It seems to be so hard to find a good pair of wireless earbuds these days. Cambridge Audio Melomania were my first, and they were disappointing all round. Sony WF-XM003 or whatever they're called had a terrible fit. Samsung Galaxy Buds Pro had a great sound and ANC but terrible fit, even with aftermarket tips. Sennheiser Momentum 3 had amazing sound and decent ANC and great fit, but terrible connection issues.
Finally on the market for some, see these Finals, seeing as I really like the E5000s, I thought I'd research these. Turns out they're naff. Brilliant...
If momentum 3 had “amazing” sound, your taste is pretty ignorable 😅
I love the ie200
I thought this was the final review 😭, and my dumb ass started look for what headphones you're comparing.
🤣 You're not getting rid of us just yet!
@@DHRME haha I thought it was the final review of the product not the channel
I have them a day now but it has not impressed me yet.....the app is not ...ehhr...Soundcore level.
Yawning or chewing is bloody annoying with these.
Man, these sounded so promising but as your video progressed the more I was turned off. That much white-noise, lack of non-anc, locked into snapdragon sound, etc make them pretty useless for most audiophiles, even if they are flat. I've been using Sony's NW-A306 DAP the last month and wired IEMs. I was really hoping these would give me a wireless alternative but I'll pass. Thanks for your usual honesty. It saves a lot of money and mistakes.
The white noise tbh is present but not terrible - this sample was just illustrative
😂😂😂😂😂 you featured my comment!
It was a good one!
@@DHRME you're a good one!
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BOOOO. I perked up when I heard Final had earbuds, but alas. For that price, the call function sounds tedious..and no multipoint ! Waaaat?? But thank you Mr Pop Pop Popsicle. I only discovered your channel 3 days ago, but I am diving through most of your earbuds reviews at the moment. It's time to upgrade from my 3 year old Lypertek L3.
Cheers! Enjoy the binge!
Good review (inverse)
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nah 5 taps is crazy 💀
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Is this a toothpaste or a toothbrush commercial
Good review of a very bad product. I hope you didn't have to buy these with your own money exclamation wait
Pls share your experience with this product.
Audiophile: def: a hi-fi enthusiast. Anyone listening to music is an audiophile. Now that we got the mystery out of the word, these are the butt ugliest buds since the Microsoft Surface buds. It's like you can stand on the corner and people use you as a traffic light. lol. Hard pass
"Anyone listening to music is an audiophile". As an audiophile and speaker builder, I couldn't disagree more. I know many people who listen and enjoy music more than me and most of them simply do not care about sound quality. I call them lo-fi enthusiasts.
DHRME: Durrr Hurrr ARRRRR Murrr Eeek!
A quality expansion of the highest pedigree ol' chap
@@DHRME Indeed, I have clearly peaked and am now finally ready to go into retirement.
what a disappointment after their iems
this is expensive.
Again a misleading review