Redeeming Myself At the Track
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Probably because I spend so much time filming time attack, the mentality of "needing to be the fastest" seeps into my driving when I go on track. Earlier this year, that mentality bit me. But I got to go back and redeem myself.
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Boi Evo probably just missed his home, the dirt.
Lmaooo
I wonder if the Forester does too
Made for the dirt, yet Ben manages to break it on the dirt
@@jdmes4586 I can break darn near anything
@@GearsandGasoline lol. But I'm a huge fan of your work so it's all okay for me as long as you'all are okay
“Defeat is not the act of falling down, but staying down”
Holy shit I’m glad you didn’t dig into the grass and rolled
Saaaaaaame
That was *exactly* my fear when I saw that clip, legit gritted my teeth. Glad that didn't happen!
I've had that happen and it absolutely sucked.
@@Flowermouth Happened to me too when avoiding a deer. Fucking sucks....
Villkar damn sorry that happened to you guys :(
Happened to my friend while we were at a trackday @Thunderhill West. Soft dirt can get you killed. He managed to get out alive but with a broken neck. My advice: A ROLL CAGE IS WORTH IT if you’re tracking often
lets take a moment to appreciate big wide run off areas in purpose built racetracks
such a contrast from the NE tracks. Watkins Glen's walls are vicious
@@z33taxi60 palmer motorsports park is downright sketchy, 10 feet of grass then a wall of granite. most of the track doesnt even have tire walls.
@@stephendeben1590 Idk when the last time you were there was, but I loved Palmer. I heard it used to be bad, but I really enjoyed it 2 months ago
definitely not the Nürburgring here, which is a good thing, mind...
God bless VIR
Gears and Gasoline. Super underrated channel 👍
who underrates it
@@marunero3 the views ratio to subscribers.
So...500k+ and growing is super underrated
@@AutomotiveAnatomy almost 49mil views with 550k subs... yes i dont watch every video they upload because im not interrested in some but i dont see them as underrated
I was at my first big track event in my EVO years ago. I had done a bunch of autocross events. My first hot lap with an instructor and cold tires I went into a corner a little quick and got some lift off oversteer. I kept maintenance throttle and dialed in some opposite lock and my instructor yelled "Lift! Lift! Lift!" I didn't lift. Once things settled down I explained that EVO's (at least mine) have lots of lift off oversteer and you can pull out of minor over steer by adding a little throttle. I didn't get off line at all but if i had fully lifted we would have spun 100%. I ended up being cleared for solo driving by the end of the day, great experience.
"Fastest shift of my life" that sent me lmao
Use throttle to save oversteer moments in awd vehicles. Practice on the auto cross corse, the physics are the same no matter what speed
11:39 seems he learned that lesson
@@gixer912 I couldnt tell if he figured it out or if it was just his wider tires allowing him to go foot to the floor and not spin, he wasnt loose after his tire change at all
Alvin Tan what does that have to do with anything in this comment thread
@@robertpayne5499 nah he didnt learn because he did it again. the tires are a bandaid for his inexperience with AWD. go a little faster and watch the same thing happen
@@GARAGESZERO my thoughts exactly
All that grass in the car was very triggering for me lmao
You forget the Evolution is born to ride on all terrains and eat it too.
@@Saabotag3 Still, the interior is supposed to be half-clean. Rally car may have plastic bendable windows that still let in dirt and stuff, and windshield may break during the stage and thrash the inside but after it, the car is made half-presentable again. And you obviously can drive with the Exterior almost covered in shit (Except when it seeps inside the car i.e. Intake, Exhaust, Suspension and other), but not when the Interior is rubbing your eyes
just some thoughts
Never about the power, always about the tires and proper suspension setup. Also good to have an experienced driver :)
I'd put the priority on driver yet a bit more than you did. Number 1 performance mod: getting good as a driver.
Love the way you are down to earth and realistic about your driving skills, and not afraid to show a mishap. Makes your channel that much more accessible to common (non Tsuchiya skill level) folk like me... Big thumbs up!
VIR is such a good track. Never been but I've done thousands of laps in sim racing lol. Huge improvement and props for getting back out there
Really nice video.
Nice car.
Nice guy.
Nice track.
This is what we want.
Really good attitude to have with the tires. Rather than just upgrading, see how far you can get them to go first. It’ll make you a much better driver in the long run.
That was definitely a 5-skidmark type of off-track excursion.
everytime i watch a G&G video, music, film, content is always all top tier and blows me away. Even from the story telling of a track day. Also RPF1s are my favorite wheels, seeing them on a evo is so nice.
Intial D gone wrong turns to (arguably) the internets greatest comeback drive?
You guys are inspiring. Way to keep trying, great job and awesome video!
Well.. I just spun out yesterday and now this video is here. thank you.
This video means a lot. I think a lot of people have been there, having a close call and losing your confidence. I had gotten my new suspension setup and was being cocky on some mountain roads and spun out at eighty on a sweeper. I came out clean, but it was too close to not coming out of it at all. I consider myself lucky as hell to have had me and my car unharmed. It was a much-needed reality check. Its been a battle building back up my confidence, but I take it all a lot more seriously now and wanna push myself in a safe environment. Keep fighting the good fight, and keep knocking off those seconds 💪💪 fantastic video as always!
when we gonna see the escort again?
Hey man I know the feeling. I used to race dirt bikes and when I would fall it would just ruin the rest of the day. Good for you to keep at it tho!
"OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS"
Ben youre adorable
RPF1 and an evo is the perfect pairing. Crazy that you made up so much time by changing the tyres too!
I was so damn anxious on that lap, im sitting in my computer chair at work leaning into the corners with you watching that!
I always enjoy the quality of the video and sound track that accompanies them. Please continue doing what you love it reflects in your end product. I thank you for your hard work.
Whooaa. Tall ben just slide men I'm glad the EVO is ok and tall ben.
Tall ben just slide men!
I love how much tires make a difference. I drive a low mileage miata with bad tires, and i drive a high mileage civic with good tires. Even though the civic’s suspension is almost 4 times as old and worn out as the miata’s, the civic gives me so much more confidence through corners.
I felt your joy. Congratulations Ben!
You paused too long before attempting to correct when you went off track. Also both feet in once you are going to go off. Don't try to save it at that point. Just try to slow down. You lucked out with the amount of runoff! Maybe try pushing 10/10th at autocross to learn the feel at the limit then work your speed up gradually at track days.
Also, what are you running for rear toe? Consider a tiny bit of rear toe in for stability.
Edit: Just watched the second half of the video. You might still be pushing the car beyond your skill set at this point. I'd be careful with going to wide tires so quickly - yes the limit is higher with wide sticky tires but it's just going to mask any driver errors and communicate less/require a faster reaction if one gets past the limit. Might be better to learn on the old set.
Yep, that just comes from inexperience. Gotta have quick hands when driving fast!
The classical music was a nice touch. This was probably my favorite editing you’ve done in any of your videos. Thank you for the quality content!
arabesque #1, debussy ;) one of my personal favorites.
Stoked on this video. Seeing you build confidence again makes me want to hit the track again too
The music you guys always choose for your videos takes me to a weird place of nostalgia. Love the stuff!
Yup, this checks out. Biggest times gains: Driver mod. Next biggest time gains: Tires. Good job on a very respectable time on street tires at VIR!
way getting back on the horse......I really enjoy this channel. Great editing, but not overdone and nice people, great message to the masses.
Been fun to watch you track! Ran across your channel and love it. Myself I've always want to do a track day. I'm 56yrs young and always ran sport bikes. After a few gnarly crashes on them. I've hung up my cycle helmet. I've recently purchased a 09 Subaru STI hatch. I've slowly been putting together the right components to do some track Days. Suspension, wheels & tires. I'm in the process of putting a IAG stage 2 block in it. Going to run a stage 2 tune as of now but the block is capable of 550 to the wheels. I'll be around 320hp to the wheels when done I think. Hope I can get to a track day this fall. My track is Mid-Ohio. Thanks again for the inspiration 👏🏼👌🏼👍🏼
Some of the best edited evo content out there. May be the best!
These videos only get better and better. Well done!
*Your camera skills and editing are unmatched.* Brilliant as always.
love the look of rpf1's on en evo
the hood cam is amazing!!! and the whole video too, of course...
If you feel unsure about high speed oversteer try dailing out some negative camber on the front. This will create earlier understeer. Another way to get rid of early oversteer is removing(!) the rear Sbar and slightly lowering rear tire pressures. All these tweeks will make the car more predictable on the limit.
Hi from the Camaro guy behind you in the paddock. You and that AMG were so so fast!
Hi from the other guy in a silly hat on day 1
Was just looking to see if you guys uploaded and 30 minutes later I get the notification
Maybe I'm old, but I appreciate the calming music overlaying this video vs. most of the crap people put over their videos.
hey Ben, have you taken the rear diff apart and rearranged the lsd clutch pack? They are built incorrectly from the factory on US cars. There's a youtube video on it. That will help with rotation.
The fact that you can push the car to the limits and still drive it home right after is awesome. I love it. Awesome vid, keep up the quality work. And grats on the 2:15
Congrats bro I'm in the same boat with tire growth started with stock size did ok several years back bumped up to 225 it's alright now in a few weeks can't wait too try my new Toyo proxes r1r 275
You make a great point. Too many people go out there trying to set personal bests before building the basics (i.e. improving the driver). It is important to remember HPDE - high-performance driving education - not time attack 👍
Also Ben - you need quicker hands at 80+mph. Try some drifting, rally, or a lot of autox to build those skills. Hope you don't take offense to this; glad you are putting yourself out there and working on yourself!
PS: love that you gave ride-alongs. It's so fun to share the sport
HOLY SHIT man
But you know what, at least you're okay bro.
Cars can be fixed, rebuilt or replaced.
I got a set of Bridgestone RE-71 tires! I use them for Autocross and time attack! They are the grippeist tire I've ever had on my Evo 9 MR! You should be in the 2:10 range with these tires
Good to see you get back out there and try to learn from your mistakes!
W00t! Great work, Flexible Ben! Deb is now relabeling your orange juice to Faster Ben 😄
The drink of champions.
Coming off of a hill is when you lose all the down force you had when you were climbing, many drivers have a issue when the car becomes unloaded. This is why we have hill climbs not descents, gravity is a great friend when you want to go fast as it pushes down on the car.
I could feel the excitement of trying to get that PB. I noticed that I saved time just focusing on braking harder both hands on the wheel, rather than down shifting into each gear when down shifting more than one gear. Shifts your focus and makes you braked earlier and lose a bit of time. Good luck man you defiantly got a 12 in you.
As another Evo MR owner, this is inspirational af
Tires are of utmost importance, as you discovered. The lighter wheels didn’t hurt, either. I have the same wheels in my Evo. Excellent choice. 👍
legit the best car channel on youtube hands down, keep it up boys !
@0:36 I remember when that happened to me. Only I was in a NC Miata, with 2 luggages in the passenger seat, driving from Fort Sill Oklahoma to Dublin California, and it was 3am and I was falling asleep from driving 12 hours straight. Good thing I only spun out onto grass in the highway divider; but shit, did I watch my whole life pass me.
Thanks for bringing us along on another great video, and huge congrats on regaining your confidence! If YOU don't believe you can, you can't!
God, the editing on these videos is absolutely beautiful
Looked like a good amount of time still there on working on the exit onto the back straight. Carry 2-3 more kph out of that turn and you have it for the whole backside, as well as braking probably 100ft later at the end, but most importantly is carrying as much speed as possible onto the longest straights.
nice drive! those warmed up tires really gave that needed "boost"!
Congrats on the PR man! This really makes me miss my Evo IX. Had this exact car with the SSL package from 2006-2016 and it was such a blast to drive. Never got it out on the track though.
I love the quality in these videos.
I flipped a car at a track day with an off that looked a lot like yours. My wheels dug in and the car started tumbling. If it’s clear that you’ve lost it, immediately go both feet in. Also consider not hooking your thumbs in and around the steering wheel like that, because if the front wheels catch something it’ll break one or both of your wrists (one of mine broke). Instead of looping them around the wheel, point your thumb “up” in relation to the wheel and use the bulge on the wheel at the 9 and 3 position for grip.
Well done bro!!!! Best channel on TH-cam or at least my favorite!!!
I’m taking my Evo to the track next month hoping to be faster than my Honda
Literally grinding my teeth to dust watching you skid sideways. Thank god those tires didn't dig in and send you a'rollin.
As always, production and video quality is top notch. Keep it up! You might see my 3000GT out there this year!
Right on guys
its alotve trail and error finding the right tyre combination that works especially on all wheel drive vehicles for the track
This made me really want to go and do a track day. Great video guys 👍👍
I just came from a AD08R 245/40r/18 to Hankook RS4 in 265/35r/18 on my Evo 8MR. I'm pretty keen to get back to the track and test them out. Definitely feeling a bit more grip on the street so will be interesting to compare tyre life with the Yoko
Congrats on the PB, everyone makes mistakes and you learnt from yours which is the most important bit. If I may suggest something, try find a driver limits course, skidpans and the like. Track tuition is great and all but its when it gets out of shape you cant buy enough experience! As some have said before and as you now know, oversteer can so easily be caught in an awd car if you know to keep your foot in and know to not overcorrect with too much counter steer. Thanks for sharing your failures as well as your success, not alot of people would do that 😊👍
Instructor always said don't worry about power. The first thing you want to invest in is suspension and tires. Know your car first then worry about power later once your dialed in.
I've done just the south course at VIR on a motorcycle, and it was a heckuva track. Crashes happen, and I lost a motorcycle the first weekend at VIR through turns 4-5 (just before the bridge that says Nissan). Good on you to get back out there. Sliding like that is scary scary scary stuff. You'll be faster and faster with more seat time.
Glad you didn't roll. I was on the edge of my seat that whole slide haha. sometimes you have to push your car harder than it should to understand what kind of potential it has. We've all been there.
Love the Jackie Ding style of content when you're focusing on driving. Hoping to see more from you and Lana!
Half roll cage minimum
And run a 5 point harness set up
+2 confidence
+10 safety
Awesome!
I love this channel so much, it makes me wanna get into racing!
REDEMPTION!! Those Enkei’s are nice dude👌🏼
Nice shout out to MAPerformance
Love this channel!!! This Evo got me hooked to watch you guys.
Your filmography is second to none. Felt like David Attenborough would start talking.
Ambient background music was on point in this vid.
Those esses look like loads of fun!
Love the grandma hat.
Tires are definitely in the top 5 important criteria for a car’s performance and safety !
Fantastic video, you captured the feelings of racing so well; my heart beating fast just watching this. I just recently started autocross'ing my Fiesta ST after doing the octane academy. Can't recommend it enough. I'm still very slow, but there is nothing like racing against the clock.
What a satisfying episode. I felt like I was watching an anime character defeat his problems especially with that soft soundtrack. Good stuff
Great video as always. Why you don't have millions of subscribers yet beyond me.
Those RPF1 looks good on your Evo. Great drive though.
Congrats!!!!
Love these videos! More Evo video please! Much love from Australia
The most underrated channel, Gears and Gasoline literally make the best car videos out there!🔥
By far my favorite evo and my favorite channel! Keep up the great work my dudes!
Love this video, very informative from both driver and car perspective, keep pushing on bro.
Here are some tips if you dont mind:
Try using a lower gear for those slower corners. By the sound of the engine youre way too low on revs. You will feel the engine come to life. Especially because its a turbo. Turbos hate low revs.
Try working on quicker shifts. I have a low hp car and chase more powerfull cars, quickshifting is what gets them. Also being in the right gear more often.
Start practicing left foot braking on the street. When you get a feel for it start using it on the track on those one gear corners instead of lifting off. No releasing throttle mean no losing boost. When you release the brake youll feel a slingshot.
Try rolling up those windows. You cannot comprehend how important aero is.
Almost forgot, someone in the comments mentioned tire pressures. Try going lower but only to a point where you still have good feedback. Youd be supprised how low race tires are driven on tracks. Google it, and try it on your own by feel.
And great driving by the way. Respect for your faster every time mentality.
1. EVO's with stock turbos make tons of torque as low as 3000 RPM. 2. Quicker shifts are well and good but EVO's also require a little mechanical sympathy, especially the 6 speed in his car, 3. rolling up the windows is not allowed at MANY HPDE events. I'm sure they require windows down at this event.
@@WTFNoNamesLeft2 All cars lose power as the revs drop, especially turbos. The car goes to almost 3000 RPM when a downshift would put it in ~5000 when the evo goes to 8000. That is way off toque range.
@@fromthegods78 Yep, but on a race track it's very frequently faster to NOT downshift especially in a car with a power-band like a stock turbo evo.
@@WTFNoNamesLeft2 those evos were notorious for having massive turbo lag.
@@fromthegods78 I had one for 10 years. Redline is at 7k and they make tons of torque at 3k and are fully spooled up at 3500 to 4000 with a stock turbo. Modern turbo cars are making full torque at sometimes under 2500 so by comparison the evo spools late but go check out some dynos... the 4g63 makes great torque way below 4k on a stock turbo.
Tyres make so much difference but i also think you need some more aero to help that downforce. especially on the front.
Like your personality! Compare to those 2 guys in other youtube Chanel! Stay humble.more power!