Steelers died with Dan Rooney. We are a kingdom with no king. No one at the top holding people accountable. Dan Rooney straightened out Ben and made him a champion.
The problem starts with the definition of a "winning season". Their definition is - More wins than losses. My definition - Making the playoffs via a divisional champion and winning 2 or more of them.
The STEELERS is one of the MOST REVERED and HONORED FRANCHISES IN ALL OF SPORTS ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS ARE THE REAL "AMERICAS TEAM". THE STEELERS ARE WORTHY OF A HEAD COACH BEFITTING SUCH AN ORGANIZATION
I feel like I’m beating on a dead horse every time when stuff doesn’t go our way, but everything that the twins have said in this video is 1000% spot on. I’m very appreciative that I’ve got to see the cowher days in the 90s and early 2000s and seeing the Tomlin years but as of now the Steelers need a fresh coat of paint, a new scenery. It’s time to move on from Tomlin. The season overall was mediocrity.
The big boss already said a year or 2 ago Tomlin has a job hear as long as he wants. It's got to change it's ashame to what's happening to this organization.
No, not enough to make you happy: enough to survive... and the problem is what happens if you get off of foodstamps? Are you going to be able to eat if you go to someone else?
Steelers fans dont forget, Tomlin never wanted to get rid of Canada. He said out of his own mouth "the only reason we let Canada go was because he couldnt be himself". He saw nothing alarming about Canada's OCing of the offense for two years. Let that sink in and then ask yourself is this really the best for both parties to continue with him being the head coach. Edit - Oh yea the Pass coverage in Pittsburgh has been awful for 8 years in the playoffs, you get smoked by air yards since the Brady days...isnt that Tomlin's calling card?
EXACTLY! I see these retards up and down Twitter saying, "this team looks so bad. Mike Tomlin is such a great coach for getting them to 10 wins," as if he has no hand in why they've looked so bad
I been thru chuck noll, bill cowher, and now captain word salad, and the standard is the substandard is the worst coach, and he needs to step down hes failed the team and the community with his ineptness., he got rid of anybody he felt was a threat to him, thats why he hired from within so he has a finger to put on the fall guy. He takes no responsibility for his failures.
Quit blaming Tomlinson, the Steelers need a franchise qb to make a deep playoff run or to be a Superbowl winner. I thought he did a tremendous job considering what he had to work with at the qb position.
Fuck cowher he walked out on the team after the big ben accident with his suspect superbowl title thank the refs tomlin won his straight up and it was a better game ben to santonio back of end zone priceless
I just read where he was given credit for getting his team into the playoffs, despite having one the worst offenses (statistically) in the NFL. But, here is the rub, IT IS HIS OFFENSE! He built it, he hired the coaches who coach it! He is the most influential voice over player personnel and scheme. Incredible, he starts the fire and then gets the credit for putting it out. It is amazing how dumb the national media talking heads can be.
I was born in 1990. My first Steelers game was the 1995 Super bowl lost to the Cowboys. The Cowher Era was the best! Cowher was the Man! He was a defense coach who knew how to hire good OC. The Cowher Coaching Tree became a thing cause other teams kept taking are good OCs to be Head coachs not us firing guys. If Cowher had Ben early he would of won more Super bowls. Tomlin inherited Cowhers team and won a ring that Cowher would of won for us too if he didn't retire.
Stop with cowher shit yeah he lost a lot of playoff games to got lucky in the bowl with seattle with a little help from the refs and i am a steelers fan
@@garyodom6301 to get lucky in the Superbowl. And your a Steelers fan lol get out of here ! Tomlin is good at what . Being a cheerleader like Bradshaw said. Let me guess Bradshaw sucked and is dumb. Btw I'm a Steelers fan lol get out of here 🤡
The sad thing is that we can exactly pinpoint where the 14 point swing occurred and what led to it. If we’re being honest, the team had the capability to win today and strangely enough it was the offense that gutted it out and made it close. Yet again though, we probably wouldn’t be playing in Buffalo as the 7 seed if we had simply started Mason Rudolph earlier. Tomlin’s clock management was poor as ever, and some of the playcalling was terrible such as ruining a great drive with consecutive Najee runs down 14 and going 5 wide on the goal line. I’m scared they might just keep Faulkner/Sullivan as OC when in reality the offensive turnaround wasn’t because of them, it was the absence of Canada, Mitch, and Kenny to a lesser extent
Tomlin really needs to re evaluate himself. He needs to be honest with himself. For me, it was the Matt Canada debacle. Matt Canada should never have been brought back for a third season. Pretty much everyone could see that. Then...He keeps Trubisky going for 3 straight games as our playoff hopes were evaporating. It's like "here, give me that gun so I can shoot myself in the foot and see if I can still have a winning season and make it to the playoffs to lose". I'm worried about him bringing KP back as starting QB as well as you guys. It would be a disaster. It's bad enough we don't have the salary cap, nor the place in the draft to get another QB, and Rudolph has actually performed pretty well. All he wants is a chance to start for a season. He'll give up money to start this team, guarantee it. But he'll bring back KP and let Rudolph walk, and we'll end up with a sucky KP, and no back up. Then there's the issue of OC. Is he going to bring in another Matt Canada type? Are we going to get someone who is even worse? Sad thing is, he has the talent and skill, and potential to take a team to the Super Bowl. But he just doesn't put his "all" into it. He's a "winning season" HC. Maybe it really is time.
The Cowher era was great. Cowher would mix things up & keep the opposition on its heels. Take today’s game. Steelers kept running into a brick wall repeatedly for 1 yard to try to establish the run. Cowher would want a run game too but he’d mix it up. He’d throw a pass to set up the run. Sometimes he’d hit you with an intermediate route to a TE or a skinny post, or a short pass for a 5yard gain. Then say he had you in 2nd medium, he may go run then or hit you with playaction. And if he had to he’d run on 3rd or do playaction then. It was rarely run, run, pass, punt. He also had a formula for winning. If he was in the lead, he would sit on the ball & squeeze the life out of the clock. It was a thing of beauty to watch. He got the most out of his players. He had some of the worst QBs in NFL history to work with & they were still competitive. He lucked into getting Ben & walked out when he shouldn’t have. If he had stayed, we’d be talking 3 more SBs with Ben. He’d have never let Ben get super pass happy playing five wide all the time. That’s what did Ben in & ended the championship way. Cowher was a master strategist & I will always prefer him to MikeT. Mike T just seems haphazard & forced in his approach. I just don’t get the allure with him, never have & never will. His playoff record says it all. And the game unfolded like I expected today.
Cowher wasn’t afraid to have coaches that knew more than him in certain situations run the game plan that’s how we ended up with Dick Lebeau and a defense that was historical under Cowher and an offense that was balanced. Cowher had his closer in Bettis a guy who chewed up the clock to close out games and he was recorded time and again giving his man that power.. he was able to allow coaches to control things, same with Belichik. Tomlin tried to control every single thing and has hired a bunch of yes men on his staff after getting rid of the ones that fought him tooth and nail on what should be done. Ben too.. many times he and Tomlin had disagreements caught by the cameras it just shows why the team wins under tomlin and loses under tomlin. But tomlin never takes any blame for the results he likes to blame players as if he’s unable to make bad choices putting them in situations that set them up to fail. Coddling star plays as admitted by tomlin himself created a culture of divide and lack of leadership. The core mechanics of a team that soldiers a group into a winner is always missing vs Cowher that would create that as his culture that would succeed in ways not expected.
Well said. This made me miss cowher. Cowher had slash, O'Donnell, tomzack, I think Miller. NO business being there amd we were constantly competitive. How many afc championships? Playoff record? Division championship s? Damn. And tomlin had ben basically the whole time
I like Tomlin to but he has to step down. Enough is enough. .. there so many things wrong with this team and it all starts with Tomlin. I'm sure Tomlin only has 4 seasons with a playoff wins. WE NEED A CHANGE
Tomlin ran Munchauk & LeBeau out of town; he likes WEAK coaches that don't challenge his crown. Vrabel would be a great choice for HC; let him build a new CULTURE...17 years is enough
Couching problems, poor tackling, poor play calling, poor drafting, promoting in-house coaches, poor time management and I could go on. Maybe having some losing season sprinkle in we would of had better draft position to draft better plater.
Man it's even Black Steeler fans saying it's time for this dude to go! The same bullshit every year. I don't know where you from but where I'm from MFs will clown and clown about your team getting whooped. Get what the Steelers do every year under Tomlin!??? GET WHOOPED!
Tomlin should leave but he had a lot of street level players on defense. Terell Edmunds was cheap why did we let him walk kazee keanu neal bad move. Both tight ends blew up the middle linebackers and safeties
@@VonPitt84I’m with you bro as a Steelers fan Lamar will fuck up again next week watch Last time I checked the pats was whipping y’all ass before 2012 when you played the 49ers and won ever since then haven’t done anything! But fail year after year
@@thekingassassin7992 we pulled Lamar - don’t even try it. After demolishing the Jags/Lions/49ers/Fins, do you really think you’d a won the last game in Baltimore?
GUYS.....SALUTE!!!!! TOMLIN DEFINITELY HAS TO GO NOW!!!!! THE STEELERS WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL UNDER HIM !!!!!!!!!THIS WAS A PATHETIC LOSS TODAY FOR PITTSBURGH!!!!!!!!💯💯💯💯👎👎👎👎👎👎😰😰😰😰🏉🏉🏉🏉🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
These #2 are indicators of a socital undercurrent of TERRIBLE analytics seen in youth. The fantasy football era has Rotted their brains where they OVERreact to every situation
@@VonPitt84right y’all got blown out yesterday as well 😂 yall had an 0-16 year before and DW isn’t even a good quarterback anymore!! He has to prove that again. We as Steelers fans are sick of the bs
@@VonPitt84The Steelers is like the Browns but in reverse. From 1933 to 1969, the Steelers sucked and couldn’t find a decent and effective coach. Since 1970 you guys have only had 3 coaches which means stability. The Browns on the other hand from 1946 to 1974 had only 3 coaches and was considered a stable franchise. Since 1975, my Browns have had 16 head coaches. You don’t want to be the Browns.
I absolutely feel so bad for Cameron Heyward i really don't know what to say about how much i appreciate him he's the heart and soul to this i really want him to get one shot one shot in his career at becoming the Super Bowl Champions Mr.Heyward will be pro football hall of fame but not just yet he needs a ring really really badly i absolutely hate to see his career go do wrong although we may have finished a winning year non-loosing season but that's nothing for him he needs a ring now and i can't believe I'm saying this but if a coach will pick up the phone like Dan Campbell Demeco Ryan's or John Harbaugh and say hey Mr.Heyward you wanna come play for me so we can get you that super bowl ring you wanted?he has no choice or no option
I've been following this team before both of you guys were born when they couldn't win a game so and was a joke of a team until Noll was hired so be happy for what you have because I've seen the other side of this .
They(these #2 & their ILK) WILL NOT heed ANY warnings... These types will BRING on generational Cleveland Browns results in Pittsburgh.. TERRIBLE... The things that made this franchise special...THEY revolt against.. Indicative of society as a whole.
Let's hope that we will find a worthy legitimate coaching veterans who will make the Steelers into winners while we move on from Tomlin but i will say this i do respect and appreciate the contributions to the team when he did win a super bowl ring 2002 Buccaneers getting his 1st coaching job 2007 but in 2008 he won the super bowl ring after 2 appearances but ever since we haven't been back to the big game since then even after 17 years of a non-loosing season but if he can't change the standard is the standard bullshit i rather change it into a new one Level up Step up Man up Raise up Look up Get up Stand up Grow up Show up and Don't Give Up Don't Ever Give Up Whatsoever so rather he stays or he'll leave we deserve better then that better offense and better defense that is all we SteelersNation
I've been a Steelers fan since 1978.. I'm tired of these Tomlin fanboys... I totally agree with you 💯.... this is not the Steelers organization that I grew up watching... we had coaches that showed emotion and didn't put up with any of this bullshit you see in the locker room and on the field... I'm done until he's gone
I can live with Tomlin and Mason for one year and see what happens. But if they roll out Tomlin, Pickett, Teryl Austin, Mike Sullivan, and Eddie Faulkner again I don't think I will watch next year. Some form of high level change needs to happen. Coordinators. Qb. HC. Something.
Completely disagree with you guys. The last few years we have simply been out gunned in most important position in sports. We don’t stand a single chance when we match up against these elite qbs in the AFC. They need to find an established franchise qb if we want any hope at making playoff runs.
If Steelers fan still believe Mike Tomlin can take them to the Super Bowl. They must be very delusional. He’s a joke. I can’t wait for him to leave the city of Pittsburgh. I will be counting down the days‼️
Regardless of how uncomfortable or difficult a question might be, as a head coach you have an obligation to stand there and take it from the media. Their questions, their prodding and their annoying statements. That’s part of the job as a leader, being the face of the team and speaking on their behalf. Instead, in the most childish fashion, he storms off because he didn’t like the question. Homie, YOU put yourself into this situation now reap what you sow.
Can’t agree fellas ngl. I see everything. Old enough to remember Cowher and tommy Maddox and Charlie batch and just a tad of slash. The Steelers have always played a certain style of football. The seasons they didn’t win it all, a lot of them were just like these, 10 win seasons and blow out in the playoffs, 8-8, losing seasons. Glad you admitted you don’t know about those times because we’ve been here and seen this before. Coach T didn’t bring an unready team to play in buffalo, the problems we’ve ignored for so long have come to roost. You guys grew up like me in the days of the bus porter Foote Troy Clark Taylor Ben ward Hampton and one of the best o lines in the league for a long time. We could win every way with that cast and two hall of fame coaches. We don’t have those guys now and we don’t have those things. We need to build an o line and we started that with Broderick. Got some new talented receivers just gotta learn to use them. Build the team and then get the qb that’s how it rolls. We got a qb first and you can’t do that for a feel good story. We have to face these simple facts and work to address them which we are on the right track. I’m gonna ride and see the next few years.
As Pittsburgh fan I want a superbowl appearance. Being a 1 or 2 seed every couple years would be nice? Being a competitor in the playoffs when we get there
I start watching 15 minutes of the game still in the first quarter and I sat there and I said about to lose this game and I wind up turning it and never cut it back on I was listening two Big Ben's podcast and that's what I said everything else so I don't know what happened woke up this morning and found that they lost they got a good old ass whooping
When they said that they were too young to know any other coach that hit the nail on the head. These kids just don’t understand. Bill Cowher lost countless of playoff games to the patriots that is when Tom Brady earned the nickname the Steeler killer. it wasn’t Tomlin’s fault or defense forgot to tackle. It wasn’t Tomlin‘s fault. George Pickens fumbles the ball. It wasn’t Tomlin‘s fault. Mason threw a interception in the end is in zone. It wasn’t Tomlin‘s fault. Mac was getting stupid penalties this one is on the players. But I know I know fire Tomlin.
Here’s what I’ll say, if Mike Tomlin stays then he needs to have no say on who the Steeler’s GM and owner brings in as OC. If he leaves the Steelers need to hire an Offensive head coach from the Kyle Shanahan Sean Mcvay tree. There is no defensive coach that will be an upgrade over tomlin
Im tired of being called racists just because i been wanting a change for 7 years! Tomlin will be back and we will suck again and we are stuck with pickett too! Should trade JT FOR NUMBER 1 PICK AND DRAFT A REAL QB THAT CAN GROW FAST WITH THE TEAM!
Not only Tomlin need to go but a complete rebuild!!!! 8-8 may not be a loosing season but it’s not a winning season either. The only way the make it into playoffs is on the hopes of other teams loosing! Sad part of this whole drama show with the Steelers is; they will never be another steel curtain or run the ball team. Steelers are yesterday’s news.
I wish you guys would quit saying you love tomlin HE RUINED THIS FUCKING TEAM PERIOD and I will never say thanks for what you did thats like asking the arsonist for a light
What games are you watching the only blowout we have the chiefs. Todays game we was in it till the last 8 minutes. The jaqs game we lost by 3. Browns game we lost by 11. Our problem is we need to start off good. And we are under staffed on the defense. Low tier corners and linebackers. Look what we been through all season bad oc injuries multiple qb changes. Like damn give him some props.
Would you rather rebuild every year like the commanders or the jets or would you be consistent and be a consistent playoff team or are they about the same?
The Steelers would never end up like the Jets or the Commanders because, unlike those two organizations, the Steelers are vastly superior at evaluating talent, excluding linebackers and safties to a degree. The only things the Steelers need is a better punter, a better center, one more offensive tackle, one more safety, and maybe one more defensive lineman. Also, it is a common misconception to fans that making the playoffs with a new head coach is that much harder than a head coach who coached for 17 seasons. They may not make it the first year, but over time, the new head coach develops a team identity, which, once in place, can generate several seasons of perennial contendors after a couple of years. The key is to hire someone good for head coach. It's not always sunshine and rainbows, and it may take 2 or 3 different hires to get the right one. But that's the problem. This organization is unwilling to go out of their comfort zone and make sweeping changes once and a while, and I'd argue Mike Tomlin has more than earned a firing from the organization after several seasons of mid football that hasn't achieved any meaningful results. If you keep hanging on to the same thing over and over again, it runs its course eventually. It's really not a hard concept to understand.
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Steelers died with Dan Rooney. We are a kingdom with no king. No one at the top holding people accountable. Dan Rooney straightened out Ben and made him a champion.
This team sucks! Are you still a fan of this loser team?
Yea
They was cheating bro fuck bills
@skeetaman3049. Yes. There is no other team.
@@steelersaiyanjedi3034 they be cheating bills be cheating for real
An offensive minded coach is what Pittsburgh needs.
@YinzBurgh99 No shit asshole . We need an offense of coordinator and a QB .
@YinzBurgh99 No shit asshole . We need an offense of coordinator and a QB .
They need an offensive minded head coach and a young defensive coordinator that knows his stuff
Nothing will change with the Steelers until the team plays in an empty stadium. The only way to get the Rooney 's attention is to affect his money
Totally agree...AR2 could care less.
We need a new owner that wants to field a championship team.
EXACTAMUNDO
We have allowed over 200+ points in our past 5 playoffs WTF it's been time
The problem starts with the definition of a "winning season". Their definition is - More wins than losses. My definition - Making the playoffs via a divisional champion and winning 2 or more of them.
True
The STEELERS is one of the MOST REVERED and HONORED FRANCHISES IN ALL OF SPORTS ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS ARE THE REAL "AMERICAS TEAM". THE STEELERS ARE WORTHY OF A HEAD COACH BEFITTING SUCH AN ORGANIZATION
THE STEELERS WORTHY OF A QUARTERBACK
Mason is the guy@@arthurtreadwell4241
His run is simply over. It’s time to step away. Best wishes to Mike
All the REFS need to step down
And the NFL shouldn't be involved with sports betting.
Anyone that couldn't win a Super Bowl with the killer bees we should know there is something wrong!!
I would love to bring in Mike Vrabel as well he was a Steelers in 1996 to 2000 until he won all 3 super bowl's with the Patriots 2001 2003 and 2004
He did not bring the titans anywhere please look for a young oc period
@garyodom6301 Agreed
I feel like I’m beating on a dead horse every time when stuff doesn’t go our way, but everything that the twins have said in this video is 1000% spot on. I’m very appreciative that I’ve got to see the cowher days in the 90s and early 2000s and seeing the Tomlin years but as of now the Steelers need a fresh coat of paint, a new scenery. It’s time to move on from Tomlin. The season overall was mediocrity.
The last half decade has been mediocrity
@@chuckyjamesamartin1968 no question about it and it’s true
The big boss already said a year or 2 ago Tomlin has a job hear as long as he wants. It's got to change it's ashame to what's happening to this organization.
Tomlin is like a food stamp card.. gives you just enough to be happy
😂🤣😅
You would know & I say all these types of reactions are from ya'llz ILK.
No, not enough to make you happy: enough to survive... and the problem is what happens if you get off of foodstamps? Are you going to be able to eat if you go to someone else?
That’s a shitty azz comment . Racist huh?
@@gamera5160 you get off food stamps by getting g a mother fucking job. Aka a new head coach
SteelTwins- This sucks...
I was looking forward to seeing a rematch with the Baltimore Ravens.
Steelers fans dont forget, Tomlin never wanted to get rid of Canada. He said out of his own mouth "the only reason we let Canada go was because he couldnt be himself". He saw nothing alarming about Canada's OCing of the offense for two years. Let that sink in and then ask yourself is this really the best for both parties to continue with him being the head coach. Edit - Oh yea the Pass coverage in Pittsburgh has been awful for 8 years in the playoffs, you get smoked by air yards since the Brady days...isnt that Tomlin's calling card?
Here are some stats in last 5 playoff games we have lost the opponents scored 66-0 in first quarter. We are never prepared
Yes and those games ended in 5 losses and 30+ points per opp.
We are the east coast version of the cowboys. Mediocreity is our standard
ya he finds a way to finish with a barely above record what people dont say is ITS HIS FAULT THEY HAVE TO SCRAPE TO GET TO 500
EXACTLY! I see these retards up and down Twitter saying, "this team looks so bad. Mike Tomlin is such a great coach for getting them to 10 wins," as if he has no hand in why they've looked so bad
Thanks for a great season Steel Twins , i agree Tomlin needs to go !!!
I been thru chuck noll, bill cowher, and now captain word salad, and the standard is the substandard is the worst coach, and he needs to step down hes failed the team and the community with his ineptness., he got rid of anybody he felt was a threat to him, thats why he hired from within so he has a finger to put on the fall guy. He takes no responsibility for his failures.
Quit blaming Tomlinson, the Steelers need a franchise qb to make a deep playoff run or to be a Superbowl winner. I thought he did a tremendous job considering what he had to work with at the qb position.
Well,it's a good thing u not part of the organization, because u r either blind or don't know football
He is the one who drafted Pickett, and signed Trubiski. C'mon the buck stops with Tomlin. It's time for a change.
He chose trubisky and pickett over Rudolph yea he's such a great coach 🤡
never been a tomlin fan he shoulda been gone a decade ago he would be a position coach with cowher/noll
That last sentence means you’re just a pure hater
get a life dont hate the guy just think he is very overrated but you go ahead and keep drinking the koolaid sucker@@mrman3523
Fuck cowher he walked out on the team after the big ben accident with his suspect superbowl title thank the refs tomlin won his straight up and it was a better game ben to santonio back of end zone priceless
@@garyodom6301, He left the team because his wife was dying. 🙄
have another drink@@garyodom6301
The Steelers mystique is gone?
He only gets his teams ready to win when his record is in jeopardy
Look back you’ll see
It’s all that matters to him
Yeah… he needs to go and has needed to for a while
Always the same crap with mediocre Mike, lack of preparation and not being able adjust during the game. He should have been gone 7 years ago.
I just read where he was given credit for getting his team into the playoffs, despite having one the worst offenses (statistically) in the NFL. But, here is the rub, IT IS HIS OFFENSE! He built it, he hired the coaches who coach it! He is the most influential voice over player personnel and scheme. Incredible, he starts the fire and then gets the credit for putting it out. It is amazing how dumb the national media talking heads can be.
@hdmetzger So asshole was it Tomlin decision to keep a Ben with a no arm who wasn’t allowed to draft a QB .
@hdmetzger So asshole was it Tomlin decision to keep a Ben with a no arm who wasn’t allowed to draft a QB .
Excellent sign of Step Down Tomlin
Tomlin needs to step down
I was born in 1990. My first Steelers game was the 1995 Super bowl lost to the Cowboys. The Cowher Era was the best! Cowher was the Man! He was a defense coach who knew how to hire good OC. The Cowher Coaching Tree became a thing cause other teams kept taking are good OCs to be Head coachs not us firing guys. If Cowher had Ben early he would of won more Super bowls. Tomlin inherited Cowhers team and won a ring that Cowher would of won for us too if he didn't retire.
Stop with cowher shit yeah he lost a lot of playoff games to got lucky in the bowl with seattle with a little help from the refs and i am a steelers fan
Fuck cowher he thought ben was going to be a problem he left fuck him
@@garyodom6301 to get lucky in the Superbowl. And your a Steelers fan lol get out of here ! Tomlin is good at what . Being a cheerleader like Bradshaw said. Let me guess Bradshaw sucked and is dumb. Btw I'm a Steelers fan lol get out of here 🤡
@@garyodom6301you got 1 like lol
When the bills scored their first TD i sadly realized it was gonna be that type of game😢
The sad thing is that we can exactly pinpoint where the 14 point swing occurred and what led to it. If we’re being honest, the team had the capability to win today and strangely enough it was the offense that gutted it out and made it close. Yet again though, we probably wouldn’t be playing in Buffalo as the 7 seed if we had simply started Mason Rudolph earlier. Tomlin’s clock management was poor as ever, and some of the playcalling was terrible such as ruining a great drive with consecutive Najee runs down 14 and going 5 wide on the goal line. I’m scared they might just keep Faulkner/Sullivan as OC when in reality the offensive turnaround wasn’t because of them, it was the absence of Canada, Mitch, and Kenny to a lesser extent
Tomlin really needs to re evaluate himself. He needs to be honest with himself. For me, it was the Matt Canada debacle. Matt Canada should never have been brought back for a third season. Pretty much everyone could see that. Then...He keeps Trubisky going for 3 straight games as our playoff hopes were evaporating. It's like "here, give me that gun so I can shoot myself in the foot and see if I can still have a winning season and make it to the playoffs to lose". I'm worried about him bringing KP back as starting QB as well as you guys. It would be a disaster. It's bad enough we don't have the salary cap, nor the place in the draft to get another QB, and Rudolph has actually performed pretty well. All he wants is a chance to start for a season. He'll give up money to start this team, guarantee it. But he'll bring back KP and let Rudolph walk, and we'll end up with a sucky KP, and no back up. Then there's the issue of OC. Is he going to bring in another Matt Canada type? Are we going to get someone who is even worse?
Sad thing is, he has the talent and skill, and potential to take a team to the Super Bowl. But he just doesn't put his "all" into it. He's a "winning season" HC. Maybe it really is time.
Khan doesn't need to let Mason walk .He has plenty of say .They need to draft other really important positions
The Cowher era was great. Cowher would mix things up & keep the opposition on its heels. Take today’s game. Steelers kept running into a brick wall repeatedly for 1 yard to try to establish the run. Cowher would want a run game too but he’d mix it up. He’d throw a pass to set up the run. Sometimes he’d hit you with an intermediate route to a TE or a skinny post, or a short pass for a 5yard gain. Then say he had you in 2nd medium, he may go run then or hit you with playaction. And if he had to he’d run on 3rd or do playaction then. It was rarely run, run, pass, punt. He also had a formula for winning. If he was in the lead, he would sit on the ball & squeeze the life out of the clock. It was a thing of beauty to watch. He got the most out of his players. He had some of the worst QBs in NFL history to work with & they were still competitive. He lucked into getting Ben & walked out when he shouldn’t have. If he had stayed, we’d be talking 3 more SBs with Ben. He’d have never let Ben get super pass happy playing five wide all the time. That’s what did Ben in & ended the championship way. Cowher was a master strategist & I will always prefer him to MikeT. Mike T just seems haphazard & forced in his approach. I just don’t get the allure with him, never have & never will. His playoff record says it all. And the game unfolded like I expected today.
Cowher wasn’t afraid to have coaches that knew more than him in certain situations run the game plan that’s how we ended up with Dick Lebeau and a defense that was historical under Cowher and an offense that was balanced. Cowher had his closer in Bettis a guy who chewed up the clock to close out games and he was recorded time and again giving his man that power.. he was able to allow coaches to control things, same with Belichik. Tomlin tried to control every single thing and has hired a bunch of yes men on his staff after getting rid of the ones that fought him tooth and nail on what should be done. Ben too.. many times he and Tomlin had disagreements caught by the cameras it just shows why the team wins under tomlin and loses under tomlin. But tomlin never takes any blame for the results he likes to blame players as if he’s unable to make bad choices putting them in situations that set them up to fail. Coddling star plays as admitted by tomlin himself created a culture of divide and lack of leadership. The core mechanics of a team that soldiers a group into a winner is always missing vs Cowher that would create that as his culture that would succeed in ways not expected.
cower also lost a lot of AFC championship games 4 or 5 right ? many of those were at home
Well said. This made me miss cowher. Cowher had slash, O'Donnell, tomzack, I think Miller. NO business being there amd we were constantly competitive. How many afc championships? Playoff record? Division championship s? Damn. And tomlin had ben basically the whole time
he doesnt want to rebuild cause he doesnt know what the f he is doing where would this team be if he played mason when he should have
I concur Tomlin should step down
He walks away when ask about his contract.
That was perfect , too funny
I would have too- pathetic question.
Fine to ask NEXT week
I like Tomlin to but he has to step down. Enough is enough. .. there so many things wrong with this team and it all starts with Tomlin. I'm sure Tomlin only has 4 seasons with a playoff wins. WE NEED A CHANGE
Tomlin ran Munchauk & LeBeau out of town; he likes WEAK coaches that don't challenge his crown. Vrabel would be a great choice for HC; let him build a new CULTURE...17 years is enough
Arians too was also run out of town.
@@johnnypastrana6727 Great point ! The Cardinals became Steelers West ( Whisenhut, Arians, and a boatload of ex-Steeler talent...
Couching problems, poor tackling, poor play calling, poor drafting, promoting in-house coaches, poor time management and I could go on. Maybe having some losing season sprinkle in we would of had better draft position to draft better plater.
Joey Porter Jr, Broderick Jones,.Keanu Benton, and Nick Herbig was not a poor draft at all.
I've been here for all 3 coaches. Believe me y'all barking up the wrong tree here!
What does tomlin do good?
@@willr4880his job
Coach
Man it's even Black Steeler fans saying it's time for this dude to go! The same bullshit every year. I don't know where you from but where I'm from MFs will clown and clown about your team getting whooped. Get what the Steelers do every year under Tomlin!??? GET WHOOPED!
For the good of the team, step down please 🙏🏻.
Thts the nfl script writing for u cant tell me they dnt rigg thier games
MIKE T IS DONE FOR I BELIEVE
STEEL TWINS YOU R TRULY RIGHT !!!!!GETTING OLD ALREADY ...TOMLIN HAS TO STEP DOWN
Tomlin should leave but he had a lot of street level players on defense. Terell Edmunds was cheap why did we let him walk kazee keanu neal bad move. Both tight ends blew up the middle linebackers and safeties
Ravens fan here; I hope Tomlin stays
Ravens fan ya say...well, we are gonna laugh when the Texans whip yo azzz in Charm City
@@VonPitt84I’m with you bro as a Steelers fan Lamar will fuck up again next week watch
Last time I checked the pats was whipping y’all ass before 2012 when you played the 49ers and won ever since then haven’t done anything! But fail year after year
Because you guys can’t beat him that makes sense
@@thekingassassin7992 we pulled Lamar - don’t even try it. After demolishing the Jags/Lions/49ers/Fins, do you really think you’d a won the last game in Baltimore?
@@Lawson2212 Lamar will win next in the Divisional Round
I know it's a long shot but Jim Harbaugh would be the guy. Even though the Rooneys may not agree with his politics.
He needs a qb like Ben
Being too young to witness the Cowher era is a blessing in disguise fellas. To see this shit vs then is really disgusting
I saw plenty to be disgusted at under cowher. Cut it out
GUYS.....SALUTE!!!!! TOMLIN DEFINITELY HAS TO GO NOW!!!!! THE STEELERS WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL UNDER HIM !!!!!!!!!THIS WAS A PATHETIC LOSS TODAY FOR PITTSBURGH!!!!!!!!💯💯💯💯👎👎👎👎👎👎😰😰😰😰🏉🏉🏉🏉🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
WHY BECAUSE HE DON'T QUARTERBACK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE
Exactly Steelers will never see a Super Bowl with him smfh‼️🤦🏽♀️ that game had me mad asf pathetic and embarrassing this has gone on for too long
As a 58 year old Browns fan who goes all the way back to the Chuck Knoll days, be careful what you wish for.
These #2 are indicators of a socital undercurrent of TERRIBLE analytics seen in youth.
The fantasy football era has Rotted their brains where they OVERreact to every situation
As a 62 year old lifetime Steelers fan, we really don't care what a Browns fan has to say...Nuff said
@@VonPitt84right y’all got blown out yesterday as well 😂 yall had an 0-16 year before and DW isn’t even a good quarterback anymore!! He has to prove that again. We as Steelers fans are sick of the bs
@@VonPitt84The Steelers is like the Browns but in reverse. From 1933 to 1969, the Steelers sucked and couldn’t find a decent and effective coach. Since 1970 you guys have only had 3 coaches which means stability. The Browns on the other hand from 1946 to 1974 had only 3 coaches and was considered a stable franchise. Since 1975, my Browns have had 16 head coaches. You don’t want to be the Browns.
Chuck Knoll the hallfamer got shown the door with 4 Super Bowls. Tomlin isn’t close to that.
Its not workin no more IT NEVER DID
I absolutely feel so bad for Cameron Heyward i really don't know what to say about how much i appreciate him he's the heart and soul to this i really want him to get one shot one shot in his career at becoming the Super Bowl Champions Mr.Heyward will be pro football hall of fame but not just yet he needs a ring really really badly i absolutely hate to see his career go do wrong although we may have finished a winning year non-loosing season but that's nothing for him he needs a ring now and i can't believe I'm saying this but if a coach will pick up the phone like Dan Campbell Demeco Ryan's or John Harbaugh and say hey Mr.Heyward you wanna come play for me so we can get you that super bowl ring you wanted?he has no choice or no option
He said he doesn't want to play unless it's Tomlin as his coach .You all are tone deaf unfortunately
@@balayagesalon
Well, they can both ride off into the sunset together.
Cam is WARSHED.
The time has come...he is burnt out
im not afraid to lose tomlin just like im not afraid to lose a freakin toothache
You guys are spitting facts
I've been saying this 4years ago steel twins
I've been following this team before both of you guys were born when they couldn't win a game so and was a joke of a team until Noll was hired so be happy for what you have because I've seen the other side of this .
They(these #2 & their ILK) WILL NOT heed ANY warnings... These types will BRING on generational Cleveland Browns results in Pittsburgh.. TERRIBLE... The things that made this franchise special...THEY revolt against.. Indicative of society as a whole.
What? So signing a new head coach after 17 years automatically turns us into the Browns? When its time for a change, its time for a change.
Let's hope that we will find a worthy legitimate coaching veterans who will make the Steelers into winners while we move on from Tomlin but i will say this i do respect and appreciate the contributions to the team when he did win a super bowl ring 2002 Buccaneers getting his 1st coaching job 2007 but in 2008 he won the super bowl ring after 2 appearances but ever since we haven't been back to the big game since then even after 17 years of a non-loosing season but if he can't change the standard is the standard bullshit i rather change it into a new one Level up Step up Man up Raise up Look up Get up Stand up Grow up Show up and Don't Give Up Don't Ever Give Up Whatsoever so rather he stays or he'll leave we deserve better then that better offense and better defense that is all we SteelersNation
A young oc period an old veteran is not going to get it done
I've been a Steelers fan since 1978.. I'm tired of these Tomlin fanboys... I totally agree with you 💯.... this is not the Steelers organization that I grew up watching... we had coaches that showed emotion and didn't put up with any of this bullshit you see in the locker room and on the field... I'm done until he's gone
I can live with Tomlin and Mason for one year and see what happens. But if they roll out Tomlin, Pickett, Teryl Austin, Mike Sullivan, and Eddie Faulkner again I don't think I will watch next year. Some form of high level change needs to happen. Coordinators. Qb. HC. Something.
Completely disagree with you guys. The last few years we have simply been out gunned in most important position in sports. We don’t stand a single chance when we match up against these elite qbs in the AFC. They need to find an established franchise qb if we want any hope at making playoff runs.
You know they wont do jack squat this offseason right? Because "Oh we made the playoffs. All is well."
Fire Tomlin.
If Steelers fan still believe Mike Tomlin can take them to the Super Bowl. They must be very delusional.
He’s a joke. I can’t wait for him to leave the city of Pittsburgh. I will be counting down the days‼️
Regardless of how uncomfortable or difficult a question might be, as a head coach you have an obligation to stand there and take it from the media. Their questions, their prodding and their annoying statements. That’s part of the job as a leader, being the face of the team and speaking on their behalf. Instead, in the most childish fashion, he storms off because he didn’t like the question. Homie, YOU put yourself into this situation now reap what you sow.
Honestly i wish we had a perfect coach like Dan Campbell Eric Bieniemy Bill Belicheck or maybe Pete Carroll too ya dig?
Eric Bieniemy a perfect coach? Washington did really well!
These two "dig" a CLEVELAND sized grave... Attempting to thrust the franchise into it...
@@jamy8575its time to move on, you need to wake up. Signing a new HC doesn't mean we are going to dump him after 3 years.
Stop with the bullshit
I like Mike, but just like your kids when they turn 18 it's time to go.
I Love You Guys And This Channel. It's Awesome. I Am A Steelers Fan Too. It's Time For Changes With This Team. You Guys Tell It Like It Is.
Affirmative action coach
OUCH
As a Steelers fan i stick with and support Mike Tomlin he still is a better coach than half of the league.
I love Tomlin but sometimes you have to learn to step away for this team’s sake
Y'all shouldn't have put that sign up that's ridiculous Mike Tomlin is glad that the season is over with he's probably ready to go anyway
Glad he's gonna. Would rather move on, start fresh
The refs turned the game for offenses to win need a younger offensive minded coach. Highest paid defense 😆
Mike vrabel for HC
What has he done in Tennessee nothing get the hell out of here
@@garyodom6301 got first seed better season than we had in last like 6-7 years
Can’t agree fellas ngl. I see everything. Old enough to remember Cowher and tommy Maddox and Charlie batch and just a tad of slash. The Steelers have always played a certain style of football. The seasons they didn’t win it all, a lot of them were just like these, 10 win seasons and blow out in the playoffs, 8-8, losing seasons. Glad you admitted you don’t know about those times because we’ve been here and seen this before. Coach T didn’t bring an unready team to play in buffalo, the problems we’ve ignored for so long have come to roost. You guys grew up like me in the days of the bus porter Foote Troy Clark Taylor Ben ward Hampton and one of the best o lines in the league for a long time. We could win every way with that cast and two hall of fame coaches. We don’t have those guys now and we don’t have those things. We need to build an o line and we started that with Broderick. Got some new talented receivers just gotta learn to use them. Build the team and then get the qb that’s how it rolls. We got a qb first and you can’t do that for a feel good story. We have to face these simple facts and work to address them which we are on the right track. I’m gonna ride and see the next few years.
Love the channel. You guys are awesome. Love the sign. Screw you Tomlin!!
As Pittsburgh fan I want a superbowl appearance. Being a 1 or 2 seed every couple years would be nice? Being a competitor in the playoffs when we get there
We had that with the Killer Bees and Tomlin couldn't even put together a mid defense, so we never made it out of the AFC
MIKE TOMLIN GO AWAY MANNNNNNNN.................YOU ARE WEARING OUT YOUR WELCOME IN PITTSBURGH.
I start watching 15 minutes of the game still in the first quarter and I sat there and I said about to lose this game and I wind up turning it and never cut it back on I was listening two Big Ben's podcast and that's what I said everything else so I don't know what happened woke up this morning and found that they lost they got a good old ass whooping
Guys, just remember when we had a #1 defense, the killer B's and all of that going our way, and we still never won a championship.
Leave Tomlin.
When they said that they were too young to know any other coach that hit the nail on the head. These kids just don’t understand. Bill Cowher lost countless of playoff games to the patriots that is when Tom Brady earned the nickname the Steeler killer. it wasn’t Tomlin’s fault or defense forgot to tackle. It wasn’t Tomlin‘s fault. George Pickens fumbles the ball. It wasn’t Tomlin‘s fault. Mason threw a interception in the end is in zone. It wasn’t Tomlin‘s fault. Mac was getting stupid penalties this one is on the players. But I know I know fire Tomlin.
Until tomlin is gone we will never win another playoff game
Yinz guys are fucking GREAT!!! 😂
Here’s what I’ll say, if Mike Tomlin stays then he needs to have no say on who the Steeler’s GM and owner brings in as OC. If he leaves the Steelers need to hire an Offensive head coach from the Kyle Shanahan Sean Mcvay tree. There is no defensive coach that will be an upgrade over tomlin
I love this episode.. I’m glad you said it.. fuxk his none loosing season
God Bless Chuck, Bill and Mike
Who the fk is gonna coach the steelers
Im tired of being called racists just because i been wanting a change for 7 years! Tomlin will be back and we will suck again and we are stuck with pickett too! Should trade JT FOR NUMBER 1 PICK AND DRAFT A REAL QB THAT CAN GROW FAST WITH THE TEAM!
Not only Tomlin need to go but a complete rebuild!!!! 8-8 may not be a loosing season but it’s not a winning season either. The only way the make it into playoffs is on the hopes of other teams loosing! Sad part of this whole drama show with the Steelers is; they will never be another steel curtain or run the ball team. Steelers are yesterday’s news.
Im so sick of hearing about no losing seasons! No big winning seasons either! Mr. 8-8!
I wish you guys would quit saying you love tomlin HE RUINED THIS FUCKING TEAM PERIOD and I will never say thanks for what you did thats like asking the arsonist for a light
What games are you watching the only blowout we have the chiefs. Todays game we was in it till the last 8 minutes. The jaqs game we lost by 3. Browns game we lost by 11. Our problem is we need to start off good. And we are under staffed on the defense. Low tier corners and linebackers. Look what we been through all season bad oc injuries multiple qb changes. Like damn give him some props.
Niners. Texans
For the majority of the season we couldn't get a 1st down till half time
Tomlin showed his true colors yesterday walking out of his presser. He's an arrogant privileged baby !!!!!!!!
Hey Twins,
What kind of extension do you guys think Tomlin would get?
You would never see that again that old Steelers football that is gone
Mike tomlin walking out the presser was really unprofessional
Would you rather rebuild every year like the commanders or the jets or would you be consistent and be a consistent playoff team or are they about the same?
The Steelers would never end up like the Jets or the Commanders because, unlike those two organizations, the Steelers are vastly superior at evaluating talent, excluding linebackers and safties to a degree. The only things the Steelers need is a better punter, a better center, one more offensive tackle, one more safety, and maybe one more defensive lineman. Also, it is a common misconception to fans that making the playoffs with a new head coach is that much harder than a head coach who coached for 17 seasons. They may not make it the first year, but over time, the new head coach develops a team identity, which, once in place, can generate several seasons of perennial contendors after a couple of years. The key is to hire someone good for head coach. It's not always sunshine and rainbows, and it may take 2 or 3 different hires to get the right one. But that's the problem. This organization is unwilling to go out of their comfort zone and make sweeping changes once and a while, and I'd argue Mike Tomlin has more than earned a firing from the organization after several seasons of mid football that hasn't achieved any meaningful results. If you keep hanging on to the same thing over and over again, it runs its course eventually. It's really not a hard concept to understand.