Raptor Offroad Reliability - & a Weak Aluminum Bed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Here is a video of all that has gone wrong with my 2017 Gen 2 Raptor since I've owned it.
I've put 60,000 miles on her mainly on Dirt or getting to Dirt. I work from home so she only goes out to play. Check out the Video and let me know how well your Raptor is doing?
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Recommend You consider a switch to a bed rack that is mounted to the bed bolts. I have a rack that is larger and weighs more than yours, but because it’s bolted directly to the bed bolts and therefore (directly to the the frame) it is withstood thousands off Offroad miles. Having that rack up on the bedsides raises the center of gravity to an extent which the bed was not designed, it appears.
Matt Lake check out my chase racks videos. Went from rail to full on chase rack mounted to the bed. The aluminum bed cannot handle any eight offroad and mine cracked badly
Bro, You are da man!!! Ford never saw you coming and using a Raptor to what they planned it to be used for.
I hope to do some runs with you soon!
SoCal Trail Trekkers we need to finally figure it out man.
I agree. As for now, we are setting up a run to Eagle Mountain Railroad Bridge if your down to join us, that would be bad ass!
Ouch man that sucks. I’ve got 1300 miles on mine and videos like this make me nervous. I had a small lawn dart impact with 300 miles on it. Broke the radar cruise and it’s heading to the dealer tomorrow.
Overall the truck is very reliable when you consider I beat mine up almost every weekend. A crash is a crash though. My lawn dart caused a lot of damage but the body shop was blown away but how little damage I suffered and how she was stroll drivable. Any other truck would have been toast.
You are the Patron Saint of Raptor's Helio! My suspension upgrades are supposed to arrive tomorrow and will be installed this weekend. New rear leaf springs and front progressive springs for an overall lift of 2.5". Lastly a hydraulic bump stop kit to round it out. I'll prob make a video of the instal for my channel too.
TheWhalen you should man. Install video do goon on TH-cam and grow great overtime
What did you use to cover the vapor canister?
We used a piece of aluminum we had. It was meant to be a sacrificial piece of metal that will take a hit.
do you think the CV axles went because of the increased increased operating angle caused by the Geiser springs?
I'm right at the limit of what is an acceptable angle of the front end so it's something I keept an eye on. The only thing that failed was the boot. Axels themselves were fine but when the boot fails they have to be replaced or re-packed because any dust can destroy the joins. Dealers prefer replace. I think the springs may have contributed, but I used 4wd in Baja mode a lot and put 35k-40k miles on the truck with those Geiser springs. If it was the angle, it would have failed much sooner. On the new truck, If the angle is close again, I'll probably look at options to add replacing the boots are regular internals to avoid it in the future. maybe at every 25-30k miles.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Thank you for the reply! i'm currently struggling with my suspension setup. It is good enough all year around except when we take our yearly road trip with 400-500 pounds in the back and it sags allot. i was thinking Geisers and HD Deavers however i think this wouldn't be a good setup with an empty bed (empty bed all year). www.izzyfab.com/product-page/gen-2-raptor-tow-assist-kit this is the only decent solution i have found. However i'm worried about torsional forces (downwards pressure from an angle) and the price of course. Have you found a better solution? Thanks in advance!
bart k there are far better options than a 2nd shock like that. It will limit your ability to offroad the truck. I usually carry about 600-800 lbs of gear and saw some sagging, but not crazy. Your problem is the geisers don’t settle much. So you need to be 2-3 inches over stock for the truck to look right. So +4 Deavers or HD+4 minimum to handle the weight better. And at around $1400 it’s a more cost effective solution. But when fully empty, that back end May feel a little high. As long as you do geisers up front, it will look OK.
Was the bent bed noticed after the lawn dart?
We didn't really notice it right after the lawn dart till way later when we broke the rack tabs. The stock aluminum bed has way too much flex in it. but honestly, the steel bed would not have faired any better. Ive seen others with Gen1 raptors having similar issues with the bed bending and falling apart.
Ugh sorry brother. I would be sick to my stomach
SMEACRaptor yeah I sucks but she’s all fixed now
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Awesome! Love your vids keep em coming! Learning a lot
SMEACRaptor thanks man
We have run together twice and you were lead both times...A big thanks for being the trailblazer!!
Titantramp4u thanks man 🙏🙏 I’ve been helping out a few guys get more experience with their trucks and how to lead. Hope to enable more guys to be lead trucks and do runs on their own.
6,000 + pounds flying through the air landing on the ground will bend any type of alloy lol guaranteed. Glad your having fun with it though, great channel by the way!
Ed Meyer so true. I really don’t jump that much. At least not intentionally. Little bunny hops on the trails all the time.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad based on the video clips that you posted in this video, if youre hitting any jump at those kind of speeds you need to have a full cage with frame tie ins and a reinforced bed cage. All the frame and bed issues you have are from your abuse of the vehicle. The raptor is not meant to be hitting hard whoops at 40+. this is race truck territory
Ryan Boyce nah man. The bed problems are from the rack sitting on the really weak bed. The aluminum has very little strength and I’m not the only one having problems with it. Only way to resolve it is direct tie my rack directly into the frame. The frame stuff won’t be helped by cage. A bed cage will help reduce impact to the frame yes, but there are always surprises offroad that just can’t be avoided at speed. I scout trails all the time and surprises just happen.
FYI, The 2018 Raptors, about mid-way through production, in February 2018, switched to a metal oil pan with a traditional metal drain plug.
Fully aware. Was going to upgrade my truck with it but the work involved is ridiculous. The steering rack has to be removed just to replace the oil pan.
Dam, bummer bud! I appreciate you leading the runs though! Hope to see you back out soon! You can always run shotgun with the Mexican Aussie, Jon in Baja! Ha Ha!
Thanks man. She’ll be back soon.
Great Job and very Informative, keep the Raptor videos rolling!
Tony Spano thanks man
At 37000kms my engine was replaced, then just this month they had to replace the cam phasers and a cracked valve cover.I don`t even go offroading that often.
Do you spend a lot of time in traffic? I’ve noticed a trend with folks that have problems. They either have really short commutes where the engine can’t properly heat up, or they sit in traffic everyday. The truck sitting and not getting a chance to use it’s full potentials tends to cause the most problems. Had a buddy that went out about half the time I did, but we had similar mileage because of his commute and he had a ton more problems than I did abusing mine
It`s my daily and average around 10 kms a day. If this engine can`t handle that kind of “abuse" they should have used a different motor for the raptor.
Kotevee K most high performance engines don’t do well when they can’t properly heat up or just sit in traffic. Opening up that throttle sometimes goes a long way. As for my truck I tell people that when she sits is when a problem usually pops up. Most of the recent problems all happened after I got sick and had to get surgery. She barely got driven and when we did it was slow and she had problems. She prefer to be screaming down the trail getting her hair pulled.
Maybe it`s time to get that first jump.
Kotevee K get her out on the trails and open that throttle up a bit man and you’ll see she’ll be much happier.
Considering you drive the truck ,in my opinion it has been a very reliable truck I’m surprised it still goes down a road !
Lol
MrZolanvar 🤣🤣 thats the message I was trying to convey. I was hard to that truck and she treated me well.
For how hard those are punished based off some of the videos it's not insanely terrible but hope Ford pays attention to these videos to make the next gen even better. Hope I can go on a trail run with you one day and that my truck holds up to my abuse. Knock on wood no issues on my end at 19k miles on my 2017.
Hope to see you on the trails man. Overall I think my truck has been very reliable for the abuse I put her thru.
I've driven a few raptors, and hated the breaks on all of them. You should do a video on what you think are a good, but affordable, brake kit, for the gen. 2 raptors.
Erik Racz this is something I’ve struggled with on the Raptor. Unfortunately there are affordable options. They all start high at over $1000 and only offer minimal improvements. The cheap options I tried on the last truck and they offered no benefit. And the big brake kits are super expensive and none of them have a kit for the rear. Very limited options to improve braking withou investing a lot of money.
@@billadams4434 that kit is very similar to R1s kit. Initially they felt much better. But they did not perform well overtime with the abuse and constant breaking needed for high speed off-roading. Stopping perform and feel was still the same as stock. There was less fade for sure, but I saw much quicker brake pad wear with R1s HD pads. I’ve also read that drilled and slotted on an off-road truck can reduce breaking performance. That’s why most kits are just slotted. For now I’m sticking with the stock brakes and eventually I will be upgrading the lines and looking into a front big brake kit
Aluminum does not have an endurance limit such as ferrous metals. Aluminum will fail if it goes though enough stress cycles. However, it may be thousands or even millions of cycles before it fails (all depending on the loads/ cycles). Ferrous metals, for example, steel does have an endurance limit - Google (Aluminum Fatigue life)
Yeah, very much aware of the limitations of aluminum. My bed is falling apart because of it
I thought it was military grade aluminum?
Ed Meyer it is, but aluminum has inherent properties that can’t be avoided.