Whirlpool Dishwasher Pump Motor Repair (And Upgrade?)
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Our Whirlpool WDT790SLYM3 dishwasher has been a constant source of frustration, especially since the pump motor started working only intermittently. Rather than contribute to the Replacement Parts Mafia, I decided to tear down the pump, figure out what went wrong, and fix it better-than-new. As for the longevity, we shall see. If it fails, I will post an update video. If you don't see an update, it means it's still working.
Dishwasher model number: WDT790SLYM3
Motor part number: AP6039091
Complete pump/motor assembly: AP6023350
Bearing part number: 6455K2 from McMaster-Carr (trade # R4)
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Just to let you know the bushing by the impeller is easy to get off the impeller is threaded on the shaft I thought I was going to break mine until I twisted it and wala. I will be making new bushings out of oilite material I fixed it last year with belzona epoxy and drilled back out to 3/16 I didn’t do anything with the cap bushing at that time this time I am just making both new as well as a spare set
Ryan Wolosek , thanks for the tip!!
@Guillaume Monette Probably too late, but I just ordered these: www.bearingscanada.com/Plastic-Bearing-POM-R4-Glass-Balls-1-4-x-5-8-x-p/plastic-pom-r4-glass-1-45-8019.htm
I have the same problem with a 2 yr old qhirlpool dishwasher. Brand loyalty is a concept manufacturers do not seem to understand. I am using a maytag washer and dryer that are over 30 yrs old. Manufacturers seem to want to exploit brand loyalty but have no concern on how to develop it. Loyalty happens when someone comprehends the good value they get from a product. This cheap bushing is an example of saving a dollar or so to possibly have a product to intentionally fail to early. I would be interested to find out if whirlpools higher end brands have the upgraded parts in them.
@@osyrass Danny B - did the bearing fit or did you have to machine it?
@@mindgrudge it did, but I had to drill out a bit just like in the video. I had bearings for front and back and had to drill both sides.
thanks for not playing any annoying music
So glad I found your video before ordering a new motor. Thank you.
Self-repairing the motor: $5
Sticking it to the parts mafia: Priceless
I'm pretty sure I have the same problem.
Thanks for letting everybody know how pieces of s*** Whirlpool are.
Thanks for letting everybody know how crap are this Brand.
Big savings in your way. Thanks.
"Appliances that live as long as a gerbil". Legit spit coffee. Got a lot of money. Still wanna try this.
You’d think with so many of the same issue, there would be a recall!!!
Anyways, this was great! Thank you so much for the video. Finally got my first perfect cycle in a year!!!
It’s a scam by manufacturers to rip off consumers by having a seemingly insignificant, difficult to access/replace, but essential part that reliably fails shortly after the warranty is expired. It’s called “planned obsolescence “. With improvements in materials and design technology vastly improved over several decades, the manufacturers could produce products with regularly increasing life-expectancy for similar cost. Instead they deliberately make products that last 1/3 as long to artificially increase demand so that you have to buy something 3 times as often increasing industry profits (and resource extraction, waste, energy consumption, consumer cost, pollution, time to purchase, deliver and install) by 3. It should be criminal, it meets the criteria for what we criminalize, which is willfully causing harm to another. Causing a person to be deprived of their property, inflicting loss, compelling unnecessary costs are harms. Designing a product to have a short life span when a product of superior function and longevity can be made for substantially similar cost IS a deprivation of property, it IS a harm on the individual as well as society collectively, and it is theft by fraud.
We as people do not deserve this, it’s time to do something about these crimes we suffer from, that victimize us. The worst criminals of all, are the ones that steal the most from us, and do it with a smile under a guise of respectability due to the prestige that’s been inflated for businessmen.
Fuck them. It’s a crime.
Cant thank you enough for this video. Saved me $170 for the part alone. I was skeptical after removing the graphite spacer and seeing it was in much better condition than the one in the video. Went ahead and replaced with the bearing, using heat shrink to fill the gap. Its in the kitchen running again as I type this.
I discovered this video after already buying and installing a new circulation pump. I decided to take the old pump apart, as per your excellent video, with the thought of replacing the bushing and keeping it as a spare. My pump has none of the scoring you showed and the bushing looks round and true. It is not ovalled out like yours was. Do you have any thoughts on why the pump may have stopped working. Do you think it is worth trying to fix and keep as a spare?
I don’t know how comfortable you are around electricity, but you could bench test it. Give it 110v from the wall and see if it moves. If not, try giving it a spin by hand and see if that gets it moving. If not, the motor could be fried. You could also check the resistance across the motor windings. You should read some small impedance. If you get zero or infinity, it’s shot.
Dishwasher fills with water/drains but won’t clean. Started TH-cam research and found this gem. Thank god people take the time and energy to make videos sharing their finding. I have a diff model than you but i took it all apart. Motor had a hairball. Reassembled and it works great. Thanks again, you are a hell of a guy I don’t care what they say about you.
Manufacturer: Shaving pennies to make a buck
Phil: Using pennies to shave a hundred bucks
Thank you so much for the video. 3 year old appliance set from Whirlpool... Small piece of hard plastic preventing the impeller from spinning. I'm so happy right now. Almost as happy as when my kids were born. Very close.
For anyone who is reading I used this same fix for Washe model# is WDT720PADM2 and pump part number is W11032770. Thanks for posting this video!
Hello Antonio, I have the exact same pump part # and I am having that issue. Can you please help me find out what exact bearing to buy, in order to replace the worn out one ? I am in Canada and it's my first time trying to fix these things, so I can't buy from McMaster-Carr like the OP suggested. Thanks in advance for your help and thanks for posting this :)
This was a real lifesaver. I found the problem exactly as you described it. Cheapass 'bearing' wore out within 2 years allowing the motor field to contact and seize the armature. My solution was to install a $7.49 ball bearing. It took a bit of research for the small bearing and a cut up old credit card for a shim (probably any .030" hard piece of plastic will work) and a drilled out bushing over the armature shaft. Working perfect! Thanks......
Repairman says $540 to repair. I paid $450 for the dishwasher less than 2 years ago ( BLEEP ) anywho I will look into this repair thank you so much
I just finished doing your upgrade. I used a 5mm ID x 16mm OD bearing, the ID was perfect, but I had to ream out the OD slightly. Not too difficult. I was also tired and frustrated with the annual pump replacement. Thank you!
Great video bud im in the middle of tearing in mine now i will try to get back on here. Usually i f up things so bad ill have to buy a new one.
Thank you for the video! I just replaced the same crap circulation pump on our kitchenaid (also made by whirlpool) after 3 and a half years.
I did buy the whole bottom plate with the switch-over motor since the price was actually less than just the pump (pretty ridiculous but whatever).
I took the non-working pump apart and same issue but a lot less wear on the bearings, they don't seem oval.
There is one section inside the barrel where the rotor lives that has some scuffing.
There is also some wear between the top of the rotor cylinder and the bottom of the top graphite bearing as it left some grooves in it.
It almost seems like the barrel is not perfectly round anymore.
Maybe it got deformed from heat.
In my case the dishwasher would circulate in the beginning and then stop somewhere early in the cycle.
I'm a bit surprised that the insides of the pump are exposed to the dirty water circulated through the dishwasher.
This has planned obsolescence written all over it..
Totally. If someone was designing a piece of equipment that they were going to be responsible for repairing, they never would have done it that way. Obviously the boss said to the designers, "Make the pump cheap for us to make, expensive for the customer to replace, and make it last roughly 2-3 years with normal use." I wish there was a way to hold them accountable for our landfills that are visible from space and that huge plastic garbage island in the ocean.
@odousa I had this exact problem just last week. The barrel was not perfectly round and it looked like the permanent magnets were trying to poke out of the plastic they were enclosed in. This was causing the scraping on the housing. I filed the barrel down a bit and it's now working. Not sure how that happens. Heat? Weakening plastic / epoxy that houses the magnets?
I love that you punched it, and it's started working!!
This same dishwasher pump motor is is in my Gold Series Whirlpool Dishwasher. The dishes would not get cleaned after the cycles. Found this vid on TH-cam. I decided to try this same repair on my dishwasher's circulation pump motor. What do I have to lose? The graphite bushing at the bottom of the pump motor housing was worn out (elongated) and the inside of the impeller shaft housing was scored same as indicated in the video. This elongated hole in the bottom bushing was creating uneven circular travel of the impeller shaft causing it to not spin when power is applied to the pump motor. The impeller shaft is operated using electro-magnetic power.
So I ordered a couple of plastic ball bearing racers with glass ball bearings from a bearing company in Canada. The shipping cost was more than the cost of the bearings. (typical). The order cost me around $32. I couldn't find a 21/32 inch twist drill bit in my town, so I had to settle for 5/8 drill bit which was a bit too tight of a hole for the ball bearing to seat properly. I ended up gluing a piece of 120 grit sandpaper around a 5/8 dia. wooden dowel and twisted that into the hole until the ball bearing housing fit. I messed up the hole drilling of the motor housing by drilling too deep to the point where the drill bit almost came out through the motor bottom. If you try this repair, set up a drill depth gauge on your drill bit for a more precise drilling depth. I did the drilling by hand as recommended in the video but did not check my drilling depth until almost coming through the motor housing bottom. (I was watching TV whilst hand drilling and lost my concentration). I had to use a shot of JB Weld two part plastic epoxy to fill the void and then I tamped in the old graphite bearing into the epoxy as a filler. I let the epoxy cure overnight and in the morning, re-assembled the pump motor and re-installed it into the dishwasher. I reconnected the dishwasher wiring, drain hose and hot water supply line and fired the beast up for a test run on the 1 hour cycle.
Lord have mercy, the damn thing works again! No leaks or anything.This repair really works! saved me over $250 bucks by not having to replace the pump motor. We'll see how long the repair lasts.
Thanks TH-cam, for archiving this info and a loud shoutout to the dude who posted this really great repair video. Like I always say, "knowledge is power".
First of all, THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO! You saved me at least $350!!!! I live overseas for work, in a small country, dishwashers are rare and the cost of repairing and parts is literally double or 3x the cost in the USA. My bushings were just a little worn, but there were little pieces of plastic that had jammed up the impeller. I also cleaned out the magnet area while I was at it. When I called the a-holes at Whirlpool they wanted me to order the entire assembly, which with the weight and the customs taxes, would have been $350 to $400. I can't thank you enough! Awesome job man!
Bro, thank you. I'm not sure if this is my issue, but I'm going to look at it today. You're my type of repair guy. The stick it to the greedy shitheads who design these to be replaced for almost as much as a new damn appliance. Keep up the great work. New home owner and house poor means I need these types of lessons on how to fix shit rather than just replace it whenever possible.
Thank you for posting this! My WP had the same failure after 2.5 years. I used J-B weld to fill in the gap and drilled out the centers, I'll see how long that holds up. Thanks for mentioning that tapping on the motor caused it start up, that helped me pinpoint that this was my problem.
That was key for me as well!
is the JB weld epoxy solution to fill the sloppy hole still holding up?
How is the JB doing?
JB Weld for the win!!!
@@nidusa1
look for a knockoff brand made for other dish washers. they all are the same part just with different part numbers. i just found the alternate version from amazon for $52 instead of the original part number for $110.
ok, so my pump has the exact same issue shown in this video. My Dishwasher is Whirlpool and the model # is WDF760SADM2.
The pump part number is W11032770.
Upon researching online I found a 3d printing model for this part (that fits my own pump model #W11032770) on this website:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:4007657
I found someone in my area that is printing it for $10 on industrial grade PETG plastic, and I am hoping this will solve my problem. I am currently waiting for the part to print, so haven't tried this solution yet, but I wanted to throw this information out there in case someone has the same issue and can try to use the same solution.
Thank you for your video, it solved the problem with my dishwasher. the bearing was also worn out and the motor was working intermittently. Now, so far, it runs like new. it did save me a bundle. Thanks again.
The carbon bearing is available at schunk carbon technology it sucks though that they don't sell to public. Nice video btw imma try this method.
Great vid, you are true mechanic. My Dad and I would use lathe to make parts to fix things. Lost art today
I have exact same situation. Found pump on amazon for 50 w next day. Dishwasher runs every day here and new machine is a grand, so.... but I like your comparison. Hate spending money on dishwashers, wish I had a 53 Chevy to spend money on.
Thank you so much for this awesome video! Gave me the confidence to rip apart my pump motor and found the culprit!
Carrie, my wife loves to tell me, it's not working now, you're not going to break it!
@@johnrankie4004 That's pretty much how I see it! If I can't fix it, I was going to have to replace it anyway so what do I have to lose! I've now repaired my fridge 3 times, a lawnmower, the dishwasher, a carpet shampooer, and the vacuum!
I never post comments on videos but I wanted to say thank you i used your video and links for the bearing and my dishwasher is now running like new! I hope yours is still working great also!
That's great to hear! I honestly didn't think anyone else would ever try this, but I'm so glad the video was worth it. Mine is still running great, so you should get at least a few months out of it. ;)
Thanks for the videos! You gave me the courage to not get a new dishwasher (was going to be approx $1k), and I just got the non-Whirlpool motor on EBay (approx $60)… my 20 year old son changed it out and now my dishwasher is working great!
Same issue on our unit, fills and drains, but no startup to clean. I found water/moister inside the top of the electrical board under the black cap(green sticker) No conductivity. I need to replace mine.
I opened it up and found the bushing worn exactly the same way as yours, Whirlpooh!
This was exactly my issue. I had been dealing with the whirlpool dishwasher not running for a year now... Been replacing parts here and there trying to get to work. Finally stumbled across this video, ordered the washers and put them in... Washer now working!!!
FYI and I know you already know, I was pulling my hair out and ready to just buy a new DW until I saw your video. Didn't take it all apart, but I did give it a good shake, and it might only be a temporary fix, but the DW is now working
You are a lifesaver. Watched your video and found it was the exact problem with mine. Thank you. BTW, yes, all these new appliances are junk and usually all made out of the same parts bin. No difference between the brands. Unless you wanna spend triple what one should cost.
I have a Kitchenaid dishwasher which cost twice as much as the whirlpool but has the same motor. I changed the whole assembly but I appreciate the video. I will attempt a repair to have a back up. Great Job
Thanks I didn’t do all the steps that you did. But I was able to take apart my pump and clean it out. Now it’s working again. Saved myself about $200 bucks on a new pump.
Wohoo! Thank you soooooo much. My dishwasher is under warranty and they will replace the wash motor as soon as they can get the backordered part. Could be months until it gets here. I took a dowel, put it against the motor you hi lighted, tapped the dowel with a hammer and voila, motor has worked for 10 wash cycles and the motor is not voided by me pulling it out!
You saved Christmas in my house.
Good video, thank you. I'm into the same problem and was just looking for disassembly video. This was much better! Now onto patr II.
Viewed this repair almost three years ago. 3d printed the bearings. They lasted almost three years with no issues. Reprinted new bearings and the dishwasher is up and running again.
How did you do that.
I mean how did you manage to print it.
Is there a video?
I think he meant bushing.
My pump just needed cleaned out and this video was invaluable, dishwasher fixed with nothing more than I had at hand. Awesome!
Dude, awesome video, We have a Kenmore with the same pump and problem, bearing in order.
Where did you order the bearing, i didn't see it in his comment section...thanks
Fantastic video. After years of frustration, we were on the cusp of buying a whole new dishwasher and this saved us. :D Here’s my story & modified solution.
The lower bearing was in tolerable shape... but I didn’t trust it to stay that way. The upper bearing was my presenting issue-terribly ovaled. In fact the scoring on the housing was so bad, light was clearly visible through the wall: I’m probably .5mm or less from a breach and nasty leak. :-\ But it’s solved now!
I got the lower bearing out with a dental pick: I tried a long screw but it chipped the graphite. Not having a lathe or any such skills, I reviewed the other comments and purchased “uxcell 685 Plastic Bearings 5x11x3mm Glass Ball Nylon Cage 685 Bearings 5pcs” from [Prts_Mfia_AMZN]… but it only set me back $9 or so. These bearings are only 1mm high, so they actually fit beautifully *underneath* the black plastic (silicone?) retainer rings. The ID is a nice fit on the shaft, with insignificant play.
For the bottom bearing, a thin ring of aluminum HVAC tape (“mastic sealant”; super sticky; not duct tape) brought the OD up to being snug. For the upper bearing, the OD of 11mm was rattling around in a hole of about 14mm; a *careful* application of JB Weld solved this and centered it firmly. (Yeah, so, I did get a touch of the stuff into the bearings and had to chip it out with my dental pick when half-solid, an hour or two later. Check for smooth movement before it sets.) This then had to dry for 24 hrs. When I reassembled, there was enough “vertical” play-due to the thin depth of my bearings-that I was afraid the shaft might jump out of the bottom bearing and hit the walls again. I solved this with two more bearings stacked on top of the magnet to keep it away from the lid. Perfect fit; glad I had the extras.
Everything went back together and the dishwasher has now completed a couple of cycles with no issues. Thanks to all here who helped, and I hope this extra detail can be of service!
Family of 4, state of emergency due to Covid-19 so all at home, under warrantee but the guy cant get here for 2 weeks, we have the broken pump from the first time it went....2 bearings arrived 2 days after ordering, a bunch of F*ckery, and we have a dishwasher again. My whole family thanks you from the bottom of our empty sink!!!
Same issues here! Whirlpool dishwasher is crap, Whirlpool fridge is crap (broken wire harness on door), microwave is crap (constant clicking sound). I just replaced the sump & motor assembly, pulled the old one apart and same issue as you! Dishwasher started giving us problems at 4 years old. I will never buy another whirlpool appliance.
I agree it is a POS. The pump leaked and ruined my floors. thousands of dollars in damage. The design has many points of failure that could cause leaks. Very bad design IMHO.
You totally rule . i am so sick of the obvious 'planned obsolescence. I have GE products and am seeing the same problems with my alliances.
Thanks for sharing your experience, i share your frustration on this particular issue and whirpool in general, i am having the same issue with my dishwasher and the weird thing is handyman in my area are charging $220-240 for replacing the motor which would be 350-400 so first get over charged for the spare part and then labor. I will surely try fixing the motor once with your guide and some other guides on how to remove the motor. Overall the market is priced to force the consumer to get a new dishwasher or high mark ups on spares, consumer looses anyway.
I agree, I also have 4 shitty whirlpool appliances. currently working on my dishwasher. I will probably just purchase the dam part! FYI I had the same issue with my gas oven. Fortunately it was still under warranty, the repair guy just moved the ignitor closer to the gas outlet.
Great video - thanks! The bushing in my motor turned out to be ok, but the permanent magnet on the rotor was cracked, split down the middle. I glued it back together with epoxy and it's running like a champ!
any pics ?
@@mjacobm No, sorry. Also, the epoxy fix didn't last :-), I ended up replacing the dishwasher.
Kitchenaid DW not washing. Just-Ask pointed me to a blown micro fuse on the logic board. New board was C350. Bought replacement fuses from the UK for C0.12 each. Blew the first one which sent me looking at the motor. replaced it and then got curious about what went wrong. SAME FLIPPING BUSHING. but a chip had broken off and it had disintegrated and jammed the motor. Really pissed! What a racket. C250 for a new motor. because of a failed 10 cent piece of graphite. Outrageous!
Exemplary production You have inspired me to work on my channel, thanks. 🐼
Whirlpool parts prices are such BS. I had to replace the shocks in my washing machine and official parts are like $300. It's literally a piece of felt in a greased tube, probably costs $2 to manufacture and I've seen guys hack it by putting some card stock behind the felt to tighten it up.
The big thing you're describing is the sump assembly, it's just a piece of plastic so it probably adds almost nothing to the price (the magnets in the motor are the main expense).
Appliances are not all made in the same factory. US appliances are just crap (I hear KitchenAid is a little less garbage than most American brands). It's really sad because American appliances were once quality, now they're the worst in the world.
LOL same scenerio here at my house I bought all new Whirlpool appliances prepping for retirement. Fridge, 4 yr mark had to replace control board, Whirlpool dishwasher same model as yours pump dead, Electric Range the oven thermostat 30 degrees off, takes 30 minutes to get a 2 quart pot of water to boil on the largest burner. Top load washer so bad we junked it after 2nd bearing and seal failure. They make pure crap.
I feel your pain. We bought a brand new house from a national builder with all the same crappy contractor grade appliances. I jokingly say, "We bought a brand new fixer-upper." 😂
Some ask me why I don't hire a professional plumber, electrician, etc. and my response is, professionals built this crappy house 🏡 and I can do the same crappy work for one-fourth the price. 😂!!
The old bushing looks like Delrin or some other polymer like nylon or nylok . I thought you were going to use your lathe and machine another Delrin bushing . Cool that you found a bearing race the right size .
All the best to you and your loved ones . Thanks for your video Mark .
After I replace my pump then all this information comes up. My motor was really beaten up with a lot of wear on the magnet and had lots of play in the bearings so I replaced it with a similar unit. There are many equivalent model numbers and you can get a generic for just under $50. My graphite bearings were mounted with a rubber o-ring behind them. I didn't bother to try it but eBay had Oilite Bronze bushings that were comparable. 5mm ID x 10mm OD + a 12.5 mm OD flange AKA 3/16 IN x 3/8 OD x 1/2 OD flange. I could give an exact link today listed as $7 but I think it will age quickly. The "store" is called industry_x and they had ones without the flange too. You will need to get the pump in your hands to really be sure. Anyway mine was a KitchenAid KDTE104ESS1 and is exactly the same pump.
I have a KitchenAid KDTE104ESS3 with motor part number w11032770. Amazon sells an interchangeable part for $52, part number W10510667. Money aside, I find it wasteful to throw away a perfectly good motor because two one cent bushings have gone bad, and for an identical motor that’ll have the same quick failure. Thank you for this video and the follow up video. Very helpful.
You are a man after my heart. I have a machine shop and I will be following your advice and trying to repair my pump if it turns out it is the problem. I don't have a wiring diagram but I think you said the motor runs on 120 Volts, so I think I will hot wire it before taking it apart. I like you, am sick and tired of buying junk and paying many bucks for it. It seems like I have to repair everything I buy. We have a Kitchen Aid (about 3 years old) which like you say uses the same parts. I will save this page and when I get it done I will contact you.
Thanks guy Tony
Thank you man ,that's some pure motivation
World Genius Prize to the guy who decided to install this motor horizontal. The magnet weighs on the bearings/bushings while turning: graphite or not, it's going to wear through. I have three aquarium pumps with the same kind of motor and they're vertical. The bushings are plastic/rubber and those pumps are immortal.
In my hoover dishwasher? Horizontal. It stops randomly, then starts again if you hit the machine or turn it off and on again. Yep, guess Im' going to thank you for this video :)
Same deal here, took apart motor and came across your video. I wonder if it has anything to do with using the kirkland brand dishwasher tabs with the powder? It must get passed the filters as I can audibly hear the grinding of granular debris from the shaft and bushing....
I'm using the same dishwasher detergent .and wondered the same thing.
Brilliant job man. You save me so much aggravation and save my marriage! We have a kitchen aid with this symptom for the past year. Luckily we have 2x dishwashers so the other one is still working 100%. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. You should add kitchen aid to your title or keywords so we can find it easier. Thanks buddy!
About to work on my pump!! GREAT JOB!!
Hey, wanted to give you a shout out, thanks, and toss in a little extra info for anyone looking to repair this. Had this exact same problem, and it turns out that enough people have the same problem that someone has created a 3D printer model that is on thingiverse repair this.
I just installed a set of upper and lower bushing bearings printed from ABS, used a little food grade silicone lubricant, which quite possibly will get washed away, but still, it's running way quieter now and actually washing dishes!
So thanks very much for this. Totally helped me hone in on the diagnosis. Here's the link to the model...
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3960628
Great job. I think your a pretty smart guy. Very good video
Your video helped one guy in Romania , thanks for your effort
Awesome video, this helped me a lot. My pump was completely clogged with hair so the motor couldn't spin. It looked like the bushing was still in okay shape though. Appreciate your video!
I was just fixing this and got stuck trying to get that damn bushing out. Your lag bolt trick was the answer I came here for. Thank you!!
Makes sense that your married , you’re a hard worker and you fix stuff. No homo
But REAL MEN prefer BOSCH!
thanks you very much for the great idea and video to help me repair a dishwasher with a bad sump pump. A word of advice to others that i learned from my repair...don't assume your dishwasher uses the same size bearing just because it is a whirlpool and it looked identical to the pump in the video. If you do, you may have to reinstall dishwasher and wait for correct bearings to arrive. My dishwasher is a 3 year old Whirlpool WDT720PADM2, my pump had a 3/16" diameter shaft and a 1/2" bore, so i need the 6455K1 bearing from McMaster-Carr. My pump didn;t have a model number clearly marked on the pump, just a bunch of numbers "C35-3A 20min on 10in off cod.W10816492 HANYU Made in China 120 Vac 60 Hz 0.9A 55W cl 155 230516 02 06000.
My bottom bushing on my pump was not worn oblong, just the top bushing or impeller side was worn into an oblong shape and had scoring on the motor surface near the impeller. I am going to replace both top and bottom though as soon as i get my new bearings.
McMaster-Carr is a great source for ordering bearings too, I would highly recommend them to anyone, 2 day shipping, they promptly sent me two new bearings and told me to keep the old bearings and they gave me credit for future bearing purchases, which they didn't have to do since it was my mistake. thanks again for the great idea/video!
I'm glad you could take inspiration from my silly video and make it work with a different model!
And McMaster is the best. Period. Every site that sells industrial-type goods could take a few pointers from them. Their website and app are perfection, their specification listings are thorough, and their selection is second to none. If you try to find a part at MSC, Zoro, Grainger, etc, it's frustrating as hell. Let's say you need a 1/4" drill bit, so you search for 1/4" drill bit, you'll get results filled with drill bit cases, bits of every size that contains the numbers 1 and 4, hand drills, drill chucks, 1/4" bolts, and stuff you wouldn't even associate with a drill bit.
Using the 6455K2, he was able to shim out the shaft and expand the case for a tight fit. I think I need the K1 as well, but I'm not sure if it will be tight. I'll see when it gets here. Maybe need to use gasket sealer to tighten the fit
Jay, you had a very comprehensive reply. Did you get this bearing to work properly. I took the measurements of the shaft and they are the same as yours. I was wondering, as how, Maurice suggested,would it be better to go with the bigger size and get a tight fit. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
Using the 6455K1, I ended up needing to bore out the center a little (very difficult, not sure I'd do it again). Also, I had to 3D print some shims for the outer race to fit snug in the case. Got it all tight, and its going on a month now working good. I didn't need to modify the case, but If I had to do it again, I'd use the 6455K2 like in the video.
@Jay Parsons thank you so very much for posting this. My pump is the same and thanks to you now I can see the actual specs of the bearing I need! I can't buy from McMaster-Carr since I live in Canada (and they don't ship to Canada), but now I can find a similar product in a Canadian store with the specs :)
I appreciate it!
Love this. I kid you not, several years ago Shark sent me a COMPLETE new upright vacuum cleaner in a box when a tiny little easily replaceable plastic clip piece cracked on mine while it was still under warranty.
Hey bro, thank you for this video. You saved me so much time and money. I didn’t have to replace my bushing but taking it apart and putting it back together somehow made it start working again.
Was it full of grease like the one in the video?
Cool video. It shows that the motor twists off the L-shape rubber hose, and I used that info when I replaced mine.
Man thank you for making this video. I was shocked to have found it. Thank u for taking the time to make it.
I found a brass water fitting that had the perfect size hole for the shaft. Shaped it by hand to be the exact size as the og bushing pressed right in with the og o-ring. Washer is spraying some serious water now!
I made kind of a panic purchase and bought the whole assembly for $300 because the $100 pump wasn't available. It will be installed this weekend - then I'll investigate the old parts to see what caused the problem. Thanks for the video.
2:46 Why is the inside so dirty!!
I have a similar problem here with a different, simpler Whirlpool pump. But, grit returns within a week and stalls the motor. Next time I take it apart I will check the bushing.
Our Whirlpool diswasher (Model WDT780SAEM1) is also a piece of crap. Sold by the pricks at Home Depot. Also the place which sold us the equally crappy Samsung clothes washer. Proof that capitalism began it's inexorable decline in the late 1970s. That post-war expansion and profit orgy had to end sometime and now we are in a downward spiral. Welcome to 1914 and 1937. So, I already did the thorough clean of all the filters and screens-no help. Replaced the inlet valve-no help. BTW-You have the exact combination of appliances we bought from Home Depot 4 years ago. True scumbags; sales people will tell you ANYTHING to make a commission.
Very interesting. I'm having trouble with my Whirlpool dishwasher . Took the drain hose off and looked inside the pump, and didn't see anything. Put back together, and the dishwasher ran one time and hasn't worked since. Probably will be replacing it along with the fridge and stove eventually. Stove has some problems too. They sure dont make appliances😮😂 like they used to. My Whirlpool appliances are 6 years old.
Have to say this is a very good video well worth the time to watch!
Well, I have a kenmore dishwasher, I’ve had at least 20 years still pretty modern with all the bell and whistles. If finally when up about a year or so ago just replaced the pump $150.00 about a month ago. I couldn’t stand it any longer not having my DW! I’m really surprised it lasted this long since I’ve read the comments and everyone else seems to have or had trouble with in a few years of purchase. My sisters went up about the same time as well “Maytag”. We could still use it but not load the top rack! Enough is enough! I wish I would of seen this video back then but didn’t thing about rebuilding the pump! I did save my pump and as have it her is the same model pump! So I’m going to give it a shot. At least one of can make out then I can rebuild hers too! I love TH-cam TG. It’s made my life so much easier Repairing, fixing and installing all kinds of things. Just put in a tankless water heater myself and did all the electrical myself, replaced a fuel pump in my vehicle, back splash in my kitchen and the plumbing, oh the list goes on!
I have same problem in my sisters Hotpoint. Same bushing. Can be bought for $10 per set of two, but I replaced the pump and took it for repair. Going to fit full ceramic bearings from Ali. This should make this pump eternal :).
Circulation Pump. Genuine OEM Part #: Repairclinic Item #:4383614 cost $120 order it and by magic, get it in the mail, the next day!
Install it and the pump only pulsates, it only spits intermittently a littlewater. Go on line to RC they send a replacement, no issue no fuss, just had to wait in line for about 1/2 hour till someone connected with me. Again got it
this time from Fed-ex the next day, great!! This replacement did the same as the first replacement, pulsed water.
After examining the old pump and the new ones found both replacements had a yellow marker line down the motor identification label the original one did not. I saw it was quite easy to remove the motor portion from the old pump
and install it on to one of the yew pump housings, so I did and the pump rums like new.
Dishes are now very clean.
So the issue was a worn out bearings/pump and the repair parts had weak motors.
Amazon has the pump currently for $109.00.
This is W11032770, the circulation main pump & motor assembly.
I applaud your ingenuity to replace the bearings. I didn't see what you did to fix the bearings near the impellor, but the impellor just unscrews from the shaft. It is easiest to replace just the motor by twisting it off/on, similar to the drain pump motor.
I'm very disappointed in whirlpool. We did our research to buy a reliable dishwasher and it already crapped out. Working on the same project, nothing like planned obsolescence to show your consumers how much you care.
Thanks for the video. Six years later, I believe the same pump assembly is $50 on Amazon. It's probably not worth the effort to try to fix these anymore. But I do appreciate your efforts and your video.
Great video. The repaired pump with the bearing is certainly better than the original. The problem I see is that the bearing (from McMaster) costs almost as much as a new pump... I just got a new OEM pump for $50 delivered on ebay and left the housing in the washer and clicked the new pump motor and impeller in place... no risk of leaks and literally 5 minutes to do. Simple. I kept the old motor and impeller... which, like the one in the video, failed because the back bushing is not up to the stress of the motor's torque. I'll repair that unit with a bronze bushing (as in your 2nd video) for the inevitable failure of the new pump in about a year. ;-) Whirlpool clearly has designed this part to fail in a relatively short period of time... shame on them!
Good job. I've seen many poorly designed weak point failures on many consumer products, too many to believe they're unintentional.
One comes to mind is a Ford motor that used a rubber belt for the internal oil pump drive. No one would check or replace a cheapo belt bc it cost hundreds of $ to get to it. When it fails you need a new motor.
Great video. I’m no expert but this pump seams to be designed to fail before 4 years. Of course this part worth $10 costs $150. Enough for me to never buy a whirlpool again. My bushings where so worn the motor wore through the housing and was leaking water.
Yikes! I'm wondering if CPSC needs to be involved? While mine wasn't that bad, a failure like this could lead to fire if the motor overheats.
well shoot, just yesterday I ordered a new lower assembly for $180 ($150 + tax and shipping). Thats the "big round thing" you talked about, its the Pump, motor, and sump. I may have to pull the existing motor out and see if it has the problem you just demonstrated here. If it does, I'll re-build it :D stay tuned. maybe I can return the new part I got? hmm I'll have to see if the pump is scored badly enough.
This is exactly what my dishwasher has been doing. It’s almost 2yrs old, but has been doing it for at least the last year. I assumed the kids were coming along behind me or I had only imagined that I had turned it on.... Already had to fix the control on it. Husband followed your video and ours is worn down really badly. Thank you for saving us $150!
Thanks for the video you did a great job explaining everything.... I took mine apart and didn't see any junk or Muck in the impellor and my bearing looked great no play (I know all about this type of pump I have fixed many plug and play hottubs) so I was ready to buy a new pump and on closer inspection the little mesh inside the pump was clogged ..we have pretty hard city water so it was calcium not food ..took a while to soak the mesh but I finaly got it free flowing ..pretty sure it will happen again but next time I will prob just go for the new pump....check the mesh folks I fixed mine for about 2 hours worth of pain in the ass time .... and Yes they are junk this was a very high end unit part of a package the fridge is junk I have fixed it twice and all the paint is comming of the stove top 4 yrs old
I'm sitting here staring at the circulator pump from my 3 year old POS Whirlpool dishwasher. I bench tested it today and it will spin, but stutters and hesitates on start-up. I'm sure when under load it simply won't start. You aren't the only one who will go to this length. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $140 + for the want of a bushing!
I'm working on this fix now. Can anyone please tell me/link me a spot for the Plastic bearing used? (Phillips...you really should be using affiliate marketing links for income, good stuff)
Thank you, this worked for us too! Soaked the part in vinegar because it was coated with soap deposits.
Thank you for posting this! Just ran into this issue and would have replaced the motor if I didn't find this. It was really nice that you put the part number for the bearing in the video, it made it really easy to go to McMaster-Carr and grab what I needed.
I used .17 ID 1/4 OD tubing. It ended up being a little thick once it was on the motor shaft, so I needed to shave it down a little.
Thank you for creating this video! The pump on my WDT720PADM stopped working, I had whacked it with a screwdriver and it started up again, then I found your vid. Because of you, I was able to take apart the motor and found tons of scoring along one side of the chamber in which the impeller sits. The bushings weren't oval, so I sandpapered the scoring mostly smooth, cleaned everything out, reassembled it, and it came back to life. That lasted about a month, then it stopped working again. Pulled the pump apart, and saw some little black shavings inside the chamber. The top bushing had some slop to it, too -- far more slop than the new pump that I had purchased and was about to return. I guess the bushings were getting ground down and the shavings ended up inside the pump (maybe contributing to the scoring?). I ended up replacing the pump because we really needed the dishwasher working, but I'm still going to do your repair to the original pump as a backup for when the new one dies. The extra month of life we got just from cleaning out the pump was easily worth the time spent in tinkering with it.
I’ve got a junky ass whirlpool too. Wdt720padm2 and I had to reach under the machine and whack it with a hammer handle to get it to start. Thanks for you video. Even if I fix this pump there will be another worthless mechanism to fail.
That little part is called "Planned Obsolescence". There is a science that goes into calculating how long a part will last before the customer needs a repair or replacement. That bushing was purposely designed to fail just out of warranty. Sometimes the engineer screws up and the part fails to quickly costing him/her their job and the company big bucks. Some would say that that the company will lose the customer but there are only a couple company that makes all the brands out there. The days of buying an appliance and having it last for decades like they did 20 years ago are gone forever.
Thanks for sharing your experience and all the great tips. We also have a kitchen full of shitty KA appliances. None of them all work at any given point in time. We even have a KA range hood which is super finicky. I finally threw out the fridge after fixing it a few times. Just total garbage!
Thanks for the video helped me fix same issue. Found two bearings that fit pretty close to perfect. Cost $10 will see if it lasts as long or longer than the whirlpool option
Link please? Did you have to do any alterations to the bushings?
@@robertj.993 www.grainger.com/product/TRITAN-Bearings-49DD41
These are the ones I used for both ends. I added some foil duct tape to snug the outside
fits. The fix didn’t last very long only a couple months. The bearings are exposed to too much water and seized. It ended up ruining the rotor shaft because it was spinning freely in the inner bearing surface. I replaced with new dishwasher. I wondered after if I had added marine bearing grease if it would have kept them protected but I guess a more water durable bearing would be a better choice. They also have this www.grainger.com/product/TRITAN-Bearings-49DD53 but the outer diameter is going to be a bit too big probably. 49DD53 is a sealed bearing which might help keep water out? You would need to modify the housing with a drill press or something but could be a better option. Good luck!