What I love about Dean Z, is that she doesn’t give off that plastic smell that other people do when they are coming from top schools. I’m from poor farm country, I like dirt, I love canals, I love almond blossoms and allergies. I don’t wanna go to trust fund land, but Dean Z gives me hope of real people existing in those top schools.
Thank you so so much for this! I have a 4.0 currently but with how crazy everything has been right now and with the LSAT-Flex, I don’t feel as if I have been doing the best I could on my LSAT. Thanks for this helpful information!
This video (along with all the other videos posted by Dean Z) was super helpful and informative! I'm taking the July LSAT this Sunday, and Michigan is one of my top choices.
This should be taught to every student applying to law school. Very informative and helpful in an admissions world of uncertainty and stress. Thank you for this!
Thanks for the video. Very informative! I want to ask a question about GPA. I am a CS student from a university in Taiwan with a GPA around 3.7(subject to change since I am still taking courses.) I heard about that US law schools don’t really take GPA from universities outside US or Canada into consideration. Is that a common practice or a variable discretion? If it really goes that way, how would the metric of LSAT/GPA be for foreign students? Thanks a lot! BTW hope that there could be a video talking about adopting GRE for admission!!
How do you consider students who have an average LSAC UGPA (like in the 3.4-3.6 range) but a high overall GPA? For example, a student with a few failing grades where classes were retaken and thus the failing grade is not calculate into their institutional GPA, or a student who failed a few classes and took time off before returning to school later in life and graduating with latin honors?
This is a great, but complicated, question! The very short answer is that the GPA we use for calculating our data is the LSAC cumulative GPA, and therefore, as a piece of data, that is the one that carries the most weight. The less-short answer is that there are a whole lot of reasons why GPAs are low, and I would encourage very strongly to talk about that in an addendum to your application. But-there is a much longer answer that I’d like to give, and so you have inspired me to do an episode on this.
If I get an offer from one Law school then can I wait for the offer of the other law school without accepting the offer of the first one and keeping it in wait as an International Student?
Interesting focus, but isn’t some of the importance of medians (vs. means) lost given that 25th percentiles are also reported? Meaning I assume there is a lesser penalty to law schools for admitting someone just below a median vs. very far below it.
Not really, no-traditionally, the only thing that the various rankings outfits have taken into account is the median, even though the 25th percentile is also an available bit of data.
This was so helpful and reassuring to hear. I also respect the dislike for the word "preventative" -- I'll probably think twice before saying it again haha
when they have thousands of below median (both UGPA & LSAT) I highly doubt they're going to read every single one of them and say "yeah, they can definitely "do the work" when they already use lsat/gpa as the only metric to decide whether you will succeed in law school. I commend Dean Z's kind words, but thats all they are-just kind words. T15's are the way they are because they want to keep their rankings-so they only admit high scores. period. thats why you always hear them say "yeah, we dont have a min score requirement" yet, why are majority of your admits 169+? its nonsense. T15s and USNWRs have rigged the game so bad. This is a great LSAT scenario: see if you can spot dean Z's NA and SA=with all this in mind, youre applying with a GPA of 3.8 from Yale and have an 179 LSAT.
Is the major GPA, as opposed to the overall GPA, given any special weight/consideration? Also, love these videos and your sense of humor! Please keep them coming. :)
What I love about Dean Z, is that she doesn’t give off that plastic smell that other people do when they are coming from top schools. I’m from poor farm country, I like dirt, I love canals, I love almond blossoms and allergies. I don’t wanna go to trust fund land, but Dean Z gives me hope of real people existing in those top schools.
Dean Z is a national treasure. God bless her. Go Blue!
Anyone else just come here to soothe themselves while they wait for decisions? 🥺
Because of her, I applied to Michigan law school! It looks like people at this institution care about their students more than anyone else. Go Blue!
So much stress for taking the LSAT just rolled off! Thank you for making this video Dr. Z!
Thank you so so much for this! I have a 4.0 currently but with how crazy everything has been right now and with the LSAT-Flex, I don’t feel as if I have been doing the best I could on my LSAT. Thanks for this helpful information!
I am gonna apply to this school for fall 2021. I am a Linguistics Major at Berkeley and I love words too!
This video (along with all the other videos posted by Dean Z) was super helpful and informative! I'm taking the July LSAT this Sunday, and Michigan is one of my top choices.
Grades from decades ago are not predictive of my ability to do excellent academic work.
This should be taught to every student applying to law school. Very informative and helpful in an admissions world of uncertainty and stress. Thank you for this!
You are amazing. I am now very inspired to start my futures education. Thank you.
Extremely informative!
Thank you for illustrating medians so positively. This episode's word usage tip reminded me of all the times I have said, "irregardless." Go Blue!
Dean Z, I just want to give a shout out and say thank you for these videos.
They've totally changed how I'm going about my application process.
i don’t quite understand the last point about preventive vs preventative… perhaps i missed it completely.
I like preventative. "Preventive" just doesn't sound as good. Point about the extra syllable is well-taken, though.
Dean Z this vid is both helpful and funny, thank you so much!
This may sound dumb but UGPA is overall college GPA not the LSAC gpa right?
It’s the cumulative GPA across ALL undergrad institutions you’ve attended, as calculated by LSAC.
Thanks for the video. Very informative!
I want to ask a question about GPA.
I am a CS student from a university in Taiwan with a GPA around 3.7(subject to change since I am still taking courses.)
I heard about that US law schools don’t really take GPA from universities outside US or Canada into consideration.
Is that a common practice or a variable discretion?
If it really goes that way, how would the metric of LSAT/GPA be for foreign students?
Thanks a lot!
BTW hope that there could be a video talking about adopting GRE for admission!!
How do you consider students who have an average LSAC UGPA (like in the 3.4-3.6 range) but a high overall GPA?
For example, a student with a few failing grades where classes were retaken and thus the failing grade is not calculate into their institutional GPA, or a student who failed a few classes and took time off before returning to school later in life and graduating with latin honors?
This is a great, but complicated, question! The very short answer is that the GPA we use for calculating our data is the LSAC cumulative GPA, and therefore, as a piece of data, that is the one that carries the most weight. The less-short answer is that there are a whole lot of reasons why GPAs are low, and I would encourage very strongly to talk about that in an addendum to your application. But-there is a much longer answer that I’d like to give, and so you have inspired me to do an episode on this.
@@umichlaw Thank you for the reply and I look forward to seeing that episode!
If I get an offer from one Law school then can I wait for the offer of the other law school without accepting the offer of the first one and keeping it in wait as an International Student?
Interesting focus, but isn’t some of the importance of medians (vs. means) lost given that 25th percentiles are also reported? Meaning I assume there is a lesser penalty to law schools for admitting someone just below a median vs. very far below it.
Not really, no-traditionally, the only thing that the various rankings outfits have taken into account is the median, even though the 25th percentile is also an available bit of data.
This was so helpful and reassuring to hear. I also respect the dislike for the word "preventative" -- I'll probably think twice before saying it again haha
when they have thousands of below median (both UGPA & LSAT) I highly doubt they're going to read every single one of them and say "yeah, they can definitely "do the work" when they already use lsat/gpa as the only metric to decide whether you will succeed in law school. I commend Dean Z's kind words, but thats all they are-just kind words. T15's are the way they are because they want to keep their rankings-so they only admit high scores. period.
thats why you always hear them say "yeah, we dont have a min score requirement" yet, why are majority of your admits 169+? its nonsense. T15s and USNWRs have rigged the game so bad. This is a great LSAT scenario: see if you can spot dean Z's NA and SA=with all this in mind, youre applying with a GPA of 3.8 from Yale and have an 179 LSAT.
This is great, thank you so much for this video :)
This video is so helpful. Thank you.
Best explanation on the matter! Thank you!
Thanks Dean Z! You are the best!
This was great!!!!
Bravo.
Is the major GPA, as opposed to the overall GPA, given any special weight/consideration?
Also, love these videos and your sense of humor! Please keep them coming. :)
Thanks! Check this episode out for answers about your GPA: th-cam.com/video/BetTGPuQeBc/w-d-xo.html