The "hate" on the NC was driven from the fact hat it was a pretty big change from the NA/NB (which were essentially the same car). The NC was a fresh sheet of paper design, so Miata enthusiasts didn't like seeing their precious NA or NB get passed by a superior Miata, the NC. The NC was slightly bigger, slightly heavier so that was where the attacks were focused. But the reality is the car was a 8X Car and Driver Top 10, which is more than any other generation. Glad to see the car getting its due.
The NC is not superior to the NA and NB in any way that matters for a Miata. The reason enthusiasts didn’t like it is because it strayed from the focus and made too many concessions to comfort and civility. It catered to a different crowd, which is why most are automatic. And that’s exactly why the NC formula was dumped by Mazda when the ND appeared, which was more of a return to the previous recipe. The NA and NB by the way are very much related obviously, but not “essentially the same car”, and are still the most loved and supported generations. And the NC is still a big bastard for a Miata.
@@LateNightCable I've owned, daily driven, and raced all generations. NC is the superior car to an NA/NB. Full multi-link rear (which is what the ND uses as well), significantly more power from the 2.0L MZR, a bit more room inside from bigger/taller guys/gals. Let's be honest, a base model NC with a soft top is barely heavier than a NB2. Most of the hate comes from the PRHT model which adds an additional 70lbs or so. Put a set of coilovers and a decent wheel/tire combo and an NC will dominate an NA/NB with similar mods & driver skill. It's not even a contest. The NC is absolutely superior from a performance prospective and is just as fun to drive as the earlier models. All that being said, I understand where you coming from, and I do always have a special place for the NA/NB since they were so raw and simple. I love all the generations, but the hate the NC gets is mostly unwarranted and usually from people that have bought the narrative and never driven or experienced one. They are excellent cars. They are not that heavy. And they do feel like a Miata, with a bit more refinement.
I recently returned to the MX5 family after a few years without.....just bought a 2011 Touring NC2, 6 spd manual, LSD, suspension pkg. 55,000 miles. This is definately my favorite Miata. I previously owned a 2002 NB Special edition 6 spd manual, then a 2006 NC1 5 spd manual, then a 2016 ND 6 spd manual.
On scales, the MSM is heavier than a soft top NC and the NB2 is only about 50-75lb lighter. And the ND2 is wider. The bloat of these cars is exaggerated, but it makes for great memes. This is the performance sweet spot of the Miata generations at the moment. Crossed shopped with the ND1 and I’m forever grateful I went NC3 Club.
I’m 18 and got my second car which is an 08 nc, same color as yours but with the retractable hardtop. After driving an 06 Acura TL throughout high school and it also being automatic, the transition is absolutely crazy. I had a week long break for college and got to visit home and finally drive it. Took about the entire week to learn manual but by the end of it I was able to take it into the hills with my dad. We installed sway bars, new shocks/springs, lowered it, new exhaust, and pf01 rims and man.. the smile on my face when I drive it is the best. Looking forward to take it back with me to LA next year.
Please don't hate on the NC 1 all you need to do is upgrade that exhaust and intake and put a tune on it, you will have a blast, you could do the sway bar and suspension.
people complain about the weight, but at worst its about 40 lbs heavier than the mazda speed NB and a little more than the regular nb. Makes no sense. These are great value, handles, looks great, reliable, easy to modify, and relatively cheap. These come alive with a tune, and have a wealth of engine swaps if you're wanting for power
You keep disrespecting the nc1 like it was a piece of ... but it still can be fixed with a few bucks, Let's not kid ourselves, its a money pit. but I love it anyway! chassis braces $800. fab 9 tune $250. skunk2 alpha header $400. AEM cold air intake, Moreoso overflow tank and steering pump. olins .
I thought the same watching this lol. Nothing wrong with an NC1, I think a lot of the issues are exaggerated. Mines at 118,000 miles and has had no major issues. It has always got me home without fail and been a blast to drive. Looks are subjective but I prefer the more classic understated look of NC1 to the overdone smiley face of NC2/3.
Looks really, really fun! This is the gen car I’m always keeping my eyes out for them. I never understood why it wasn’t more liked….with the bulging wheel fenders, I always thought it made it look more aggressive. I even thought the interior looked really simple but almost with a European flare. Your car looks awesome. It looks so mischievous with that lowered suspension, going around corners. I mean it looks like zero body lean. Would love to spend a whole day in the Canyons with it!
its most hated because of the weight it comes from factory. Dont listen to the haters. Most of them are miata purist. Most of the miata purist i've seen cant even build a miata. Almost every miata purist i meet are arrogant and sometimes stupid in the head.
NC is the best of the Miatas. nicely sized and enough comfort and with a new head unit, the classic becomes a modern roaster without all the latest safety features.
Hey there love the videos and the car, my plan is to buy an NC2 so I'm getting a lot of useful info from you. One question, what size are your wheel including offset? The stance is perfect and exactly what I'll be looking for in mine. Keep up the good work!!
I’m 18 shopping for my 2nd car. My first was an e39 530 with a stick. Loved it, but I want something more tossable for my dad and I to take to the track. We’ve had our uncles nd2 rf grand touring so it doesn’t have the suspension pack or LSD. That being said when I take turns hard it doesn’t feel very confident and the tail likes to kick out. Would you say this is more planted. This Miata is at the top of my list. Thanks!
I got a deal on a 2012 with 13K on it. It is beautiful, fun, and it has an automatic,... I wish it was manual. So what I want to know is: "should I sell it for a car with a manual,..." I think yes -but now which one? ND? Or stick with NC? Or,... NA, NB? Problems problems problems,... Tell me oh wise Miata owners - 'what would you do"?
@@DriveBreakFixRepeat ... I bought it last year with 1600 miles. It was in a private auto collection indoors in Palo Alto, Ca. The only thing that needed to be changed were the fluids and tires. This NC2 will out last me.
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I love my 2008 NC. Best car I have ever owned.
Nobody calls the the BRZ/FRS a boat and they're 2 or 3 hundred pounds more. Decent engine in these too, tons of aftermarket, 2.5l swappable.
The "hate" on the NC was driven from the fact hat it was a pretty big change from the NA/NB (which were essentially the same car). The NC was a fresh sheet of paper design, so Miata enthusiasts didn't like seeing their precious NA or NB get passed by a superior Miata, the NC. The NC was slightly bigger, slightly heavier so that was where the attacks were focused. But the reality is the car was a 8X Car and Driver Top 10, which is more than any other generation. Glad to see the car getting its due.
The NC is not superior to the NA and NB in any way that matters for a Miata. The reason enthusiasts didn’t like it is because it strayed from the focus and made too many concessions to comfort and civility. It catered to a different crowd, which is why most are automatic. And that’s exactly why the NC formula was dumped by Mazda when the ND appeared, which was more of a return to the previous recipe.
The NA and NB by the way are very much related obviously, but not “essentially the same car”, and are still the most loved and supported generations. And the NC is still a big bastard for a Miata.
@@LateNightCable I've owned, daily driven, and raced all generations. NC is the superior car to an NA/NB. Full multi-link rear (which is what the ND uses as well), significantly more power from the 2.0L MZR, a bit more room inside from bigger/taller guys/gals. Let's be honest, a base model NC with a soft top is barely heavier than a NB2. Most of the hate comes from the PRHT model which adds an additional 70lbs or so. Put a set of coilovers and a decent wheel/tire combo and an NC will dominate an NA/NB with similar mods & driver skill. It's not even a contest. The NC is absolutely superior from a performance prospective and is just as fun to drive as the earlier models.
All that being said, I understand where you coming from, and I do always have a special place for the NA/NB since they were so raw and simple. I love all the generations, but the hate the NC gets is mostly unwarranted and usually from people that have bought the narrative and never driven or experienced one. They are excellent cars. They are not that heavy. And they do feel like a Miata, with a bit more refinement.
never driven one.@@LateNightCable
@@LateNightCable The gate-keeping continues…
I just picked up a blue 2008 NC1 grand touring, power hard top, LSD/suspension package with only 50,000 miles. Love it so far.
I recently returned to the MX5 family after a few years without.....just bought a 2011 Touring NC2, 6 spd manual, LSD, suspension pkg. 55,000 miles. This is definately my favorite Miata. I previously owned a 2002 NB Special edition 6 spd manual, then a 2006 NC1 5 spd manual, then a 2016 ND 6 spd manual.
On scales, the MSM is heavier than a soft top NC and the NB2 is only about 50-75lb lighter. And the ND2 is wider. The bloat of these cars is exaggerated, but it makes for great memes.
This is the performance sweet spot of the Miata generations at the moment. Crossed shopped with the ND1 and I’m forever grateful I went NC3 Club.
I’m 18 and got my second car which is an 08 nc, same color as yours but with the retractable hardtop. After driving an 06 Acura TL throughout high school and it also being automatic, the transition is absolutely crazy. I had a week long break for college and got to visit home and finally drive it. Took about the entire week to learn manual but by the end of it I was able to take it into the hills with my dad. We installed sway bars, new shocks/springs, lowered it, new exhaust, and pf01 rims and man.. the smile on my face when I drive it is the best. Looking forward to take it back with me to LA next year.
Lol in the same boat as you. I’m 18 buying my 2nd car right now nc being the top of my list. My first car was a 2001 530i w a manual
@@jrzeger if you end up buying one start by adding a sway bar as your first mod. It’s unbelievable the things you can do with it
You owe a debt of gratitude to your daddy that you’ll probably never realize.
@@LateNightCable pretty sure I realized it the day he handed me the keys
Awesome cars… track mine hard…!!! 👍😊👊💥
My man disappeared and came back bald with a bold car👍
NC1 is fine - just chsnge the plastic overflow tank and no engine worries.
NC2 is awesome. Anyone who hates on it, definitely has never driven one.
This
Have driven a few, it’s more fun than most cars, but it’s not awesome for a Miata.
@@LateNightCablelol
I have owned my 2011 since new. Still love driving it.
I just picked up an NC2 last week and saw your video today! Liked and subscribed, excited to follow along and get some ideas myself.
Please don't hate on the NC 1 all you need to do is upgrade that exhaust and intake and put a tune on it, you will have a blast, you could do the sway bar and suspension.
Exactly what I did.. sways, Goodwin Catted header, midpipe and exhaust, Dynotronics remap. Shocks/springs/rims/tires coming this spring.
people complain about the weight, but at worst its about 40 lbs heavier than the mazda speed NB and a little more than the regular nb. Makes no sense.
These are great value, handles, looks great, reliable, easy to modify, and relatively cheap. These come alive with a tune, and have a wealth of engine swaps if you're wanting for power
Awesome video been waiting on this one ! Enjoy your smiles per gallon.
You keep disrespecting the nc1 like it was a piece of ... but it still can be fixed with a few bucks, Let's not kid ourselves, its a money pit. but I love it anyway! chassis braces $800. fab 9 tune $250. skunk2 alpha header $400. AEM cold air intake, Moreoso overflow tank and steering pump. olins .
I thought the same watching this lol. Nothing wrong with an NC1, I think a lot of the issues are exaggerated. Mines at 118,000 miles and has had no major issues. It has always got me home without fail and been a blast to drive. Looks are subjective but I prefer the more classic understated look of NC1 to the overdone smiley face of NC2/3.
Exactly. The only significant difference is a slightly higher rev limit. Everything else is fixed by the same mods that are routinely done to all NCs.
Gorgeous color! And nicely modded already (I saw the Moroso tank also).
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Looks really, really fun! This is the gen car I’m always keeping my eyes out for them. I never understood why it wasn’t more liked….with the bulging wheel fenders, I always thought it made it look more aggressive. I even thought the interior looked really simple but almost with a European flare. Your car looks awesome. It looks so mischievous with that lowered suspension, going around corners. I mean it looks like zero body lean. Would love to spend a whole day in the Canyons with it!
its most hated because of the weight it comes from factory. Dont listen to the haters. Most of them are miata purist. Most of the miata purist i've seen cant even build a miata. Almost every miata purist i meet are arrogant and sometimes stupid in the head.
NC is the best of the Miatas. nicely sized and enough comfort and with a new head unit, the classic becomes a modern roaster without all the latest safety features.
I've had passengers say it's tons of fun, so that says a lot!
Best Miata ever! i have a NC 2012. True red. Best balance among price, fun and reliability!
NC is best miata, glad we finally got a video breakdown after seeing it on IG :)
I can also see you getting to grips with the worlds worst placed seatbelts...
Yup, they are awful. 😂
Subscribed for this build! Looking to get one myself pretty soon. What are those wheels?
I think they are Rota SS10. They're very convincing ZE40 reps.
what's your wheel and tire setup? the fitment is great
I have the exact same spec car. Really happy with it!
Hey there love the videos and the car, my plan is to buy an NC2 so I'm getting a lot of useful info from you. One question, what size are your wheel including offset? The stance is perfect and exactly what I'll be looking for in mine.
Keep up the good work!!
Flyin Miata have a very detailed video about fitment for NCs. Heaps of advice about what will fit with/without rolling the fenders.
I’m 18 shopping for my 2nd car. My first was an e39 530 with a stick. Loved it, but I want something more tossable for my dad and I to take to the track. We’ve had our uncles nd2 rf grand touring so it doesn’t have the suspension pack or LSD. That being said when I take turns hard it doesn’t feel very confident and the tail likes to kick out. Would you say this is more planted. This Miata is at the top of my list. Thanks!
The ND is definitely tuned for more oversteer out of the box. An LSD on any RWD car will help/control that sensation.
Thought the rear end was multi-link not double-wishbones.
You're correct, I misspoke. Both gain camber under compression so we're good. 💪
@@DriveBreakFixRepeat oh, the car already looks great by the way.
Am i the only one who thinks the NC2 and 3 are FAR uglier than the NC1? That daft looking grille haunts my nightmares and looks like a child drew it 😂
So you said ze40 replicas. Can you share who makes them and the wheels specs? They are beautiful. I want them for my black nc1
They are Rotas. Can't remember the model, but they are 17x9 +42 and it's a 235/40 tire.
2014 NC Grand Touring 🔥😝🔥
Who hates them seems like thats the only car people ralk about
I got a deal on a 2012 with 13K on it. It is beautiful, fun, and it has an automatic,...
I wish it was manual.
So what I want to know is: "should I sell it for a car with a manual,..." I think yes -but
now which one? ND? Or stick with NC? Or,... NA, NB?
Problems problems problems,...
Tell me oh wise Miata owners - 'what would you do"?
Just depends on your means and priorities, they are all great cars, but do feel different/represent their respective eras.
How much did you pay for it?
$9K
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But you like BMW? They are money pits.
"Thrash"??? Not sure you understand the meaning of that word...
Hmmm MX5 mate can’t see that stupid Miata badge thank god in Australia we don’t call them a Miata.
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@@DriveBreakFixRepeat 🤣🤣🤣 it’s still stupid even in your horrible twang accent 😝🤣🤣MX5 MX5 MX5 MX5 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
lol what's wrong with calling it a Miata? Its all the same Mx5/Miata/Eunos/Roadster whatever lol
@@Clones_and_coffee just never been a fan of it. Still don’t see that badge on it.
@@davidrome6066 From NC generation all names across all countries where standardised to MX5 even the USA. It won’t have a miata badge.
125000 miles? My 2010 has 5000 miles on it. I was just lucky.
Cars are meant to be driven.
@@DriveBreakFixRepeat ... I bought it last year with 1600 miles. It was in a private auto collection indoors in Palo Alto, Ca. The only thing that needed to be changed were the fluids and tires. This NC2 will out last me.