Sardonicast 118: Jurassic World: Dominion, Heat
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I like Ralph’s energy lately. A bit ramble-y, but it’s fantastic to see him more engaged, especially when it comes to movies he knows so much about.
I think sardonicast cast fans should stop hyper analyzing the hosts and their behavior.
Yeah like people have been saying it every day for a year now but he actually seems better now
@@larpfeeder5419 usually I’d agree but Ralph seemed like he was fucking dead inside for the longest time, which arguably is very noticeable and very much impactful on the show
Might be because of the copystrike fiasco
@@larpfeeder5419 yeh usually id agree but this is a fairly tame take from op, also ralph has said in the past he reads comments, and a bit of positivity isn't awful imo
Timestamps!
0:00 Intro, literal heat
1:52 Jurassic World Dominion (spoilers)
48:25 Heat (spoilers)
1:25:02 Pizza Time! I mean Question Time!
1:25:12 Are actors hypocritical for working with problematic directors?
1:42:26 Reacting to the highest grossing films in France
1:46:33 Must you do research after watching a film to truly understand it?
1:51:57 Thoughts on Marvel fatigue?
2:01:39 Alex recommends Brokeback Mountain!
Thanks boys :) Shrek
Yeah Iam seeing ppl who are really getting tried of marvel. Too bad I wanted to see Dr Doom or Sentry
I want your convenient commenting babies
And Shrek to you too sir
Thanks for the time stamps!
Pizza
The ending of Heat is one of my favourite movie endings ever.
That final shot brings me to tears every single time.
So good
Same!
Did anybody else notice the sound editing error when they faced off against the feathered raptor? On one shot, it's roaring at them and before it hits the peak of the roar, it cuts away to the human characters and the roar is completely cut off. That's the level of care in this film
Shoutout to Jurassic World Dominion for somehow making the first fully feathered raptor in the series completely underwhelming
Choosing to believe you're talking about the Sardonicast episode itself and not Jurassic Park
Heat is one of my favorite movies. A near 3 hour movie that felt like an hour and a half. Just so interesting throughout and great performances by everyone involved.
This episode was so much fun! A lot of fun, interesting discussions not just with the movies, but with the questions as well. Episodes like this are why I get excited every time a new Sardonicat episode gets dropped.
My fave is when they have an awesome guest on and Adum does zero research and embarrasses himself for two hours. (See: Jenny Nicholson)
Only Ralph can describe a film like one of the worst films he's ever seen but he still ends up giving it a 4/10
Nice contrast with Adum, who can describe a film like one of the best he's ever seen but he still ends up giving it a 6/10 😉
@@mabusestestament Closer to a 7 then a 5
I think of it like the intro to Alex's Search for the Worst, where he reiterates that he doesn't mean something like Grown Ups 2 or Transformers 2. As much as he disliked it, there's a difference between it and something like Birdemic. Movies like that get a 1.
A nice birthday gift from the Sardonicast crew! As a fan of this channel for close to 4 years, thank you for all that you do guys!!!
The final shot of Heat is one of the most emotionally powerful endings in cinema.
Jurassic Park III is still my favourite of the sequels because it's a schlocky B-movie and doesn't try to be anything more than that. And it's a tight 90 minutes. I still wouldn't call it GOOD per se, but by default I enjoy it the most.
That raptor saying - Alan! - makes it a 10/10
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 MASTAPEECE
JP3 also recreates some of the scenes from the Jurassic Park books. I think it was the last time the franchise bothered to reference the actual source material.
JPIII has some nice moments, but I always find it very anticlimactic, very disappointing. It's like it's setting up a T-Rex Spinosaurus rematch (as the T-Rex didn't appear to be conclusively dead and hey nobody wants the Spinosaurus to actually win) but instead of the rematch being the climax... it never happens and the movie just ends abruptly without there being an actual climax.
@@mabusestestament They relegated the T. rex VS Spino rematch to Camp Cretaceous where the T. rex does win in the end, although in the original ending for JP3 the raptors were going to kill the Spino
That Jurassic Park review, wow! This will be remembered as the epitome of movie reviews for generations to come 🙏
According to imdb, the only changes made for the director's cut of Heat were 2 minor audio changes.
1. Bass boosted the "GREAT ASS" line
2. Bass boosted again
@@HOTD108_ lol
If you like Heat you gotta watch Michael Mann's earlier Thief with James Caan. Thief is basically a beta version of Heat. The diner conversation in Heat is a remake of a scene in Thief that Mann wanted to redo. Very similar movie.
The best part of Heat was when Pacino fights Henry Rollins and somehow wins. Hilarious.
Seeing Henry Rollins in it made them the film just a little better for me. Everytime he pops up you know your in for a good time.
James Caan what Immanuel Kant.
Thief is pretty decent but man HEAT is just so much better, the fact Heat had 2 amazing main characters being potrayed by legendary actors is so much fun. James Caan (RIP) character is pretty good but the story eghh kinda sucks lmao
1:04:27 Almost sounds like Adum is saying "The GREAT ASSpect" without him realising what he said. Just me made chuckle
2:00:18 Ralph’s laugh is so contagious here 😂 Like he was really proud of that.
Insufferable is a far better word for it
@@johncra8982choke
Always time for Sardonicast. Thank you bois
I love the moment when Chris Pratt chokes a dilophosaurus so passionately you’d think they got Quentin Tarantino to do it.
Can’t wait for the next Fast and Furious when Dom tells the raptors they’re part of the family now
😂😂😂😂
Don't give them ideas. They're both Universal, it could happen.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who needed to get up and get a beer during the new Jurassic World in order to actually finish it
This is now Ralph’s podcast. Love to see him go all in on Jurassic World.
Alex nailed it with the Transformers comparison
Watching Heat after Basic Instinct was kinda intriguing. Just comparing the diner table in both films in which one was well written, very smooth and cathartic, while the other was just "i fucked her " every 5 seconds.
On top of that, Heat did the "unstable L.A detective" much better
Basic Instinct is awesome.
@@mabusestestament exactly. BASIC INSTINCT is going for a completely different vibe.
Comparing them is silly. They’re both great versions of what they were trying to do.
none compare to Naked gun
Basic Instinct, fantastic, hope they will discuss it on Sardonicast some day.
It's like a Hitchcockian detective sex comedy/thriller/satire
The ambiguous ending really is the cherry on the cake.
One of Verhoeven's most underrated Hollywood films.
""That magna cum laude pussy on her that done fried up your brain""
And the Jerry Goldsmith score!
Thank god, very grateful for this while currently at work
One big factor in the dynamic of people who work with problematic or outright criminal directors is how much easier it is for a company to get away with it than an individual actor, since most of the public can't really put a name or a face to a production company so nobody is putting their reputation on the line. Of course this is just an extension of the fact that companies very rarely have to answer for their actions in any meaningful way when it comes to dubious ethical decisions. We have laws and regulations to keep them in check from serious violations (at least in theory) but there's no moral accountability.
I refuse to watch anything explaining the story of Tenet because I've convinced myself that if I just rewatch it a bunch of times it'll finally click someday
Great conversations again.
I'm glad Ralph is back on form!
I can see ralph holding back angry tears for being told heat isn't tight enough
Heat is too long.
Still haven't seen Heat but I recall a friend playing a clip of a shootout that's alleged to be "the most realistic shooting scene ever" and being majorly unimpressed
@@Lifesizemortal That's what Ralph mentions here... I don't know, I watched it but I mostly sleepwalked through it. I didn't find the chases all that impressive, the dialogue wasn't interesting to listen to, the character weren't that deep and I thought it was overly long.
I find Heat to be overly hyped, Dog Day Afternoon, Inside Man and Stanley Kubrick's The Killing are way more exciting Heist films.
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 hard agree
@@Lifesizemortal its mainly the sound design. I had the pleasure of seeing Heat in theatres. It was an incredible experience
Check out The Driver (1978), directed by Walter Hill. You will see where Mann, Refn, and many others were influenced and the film is severely underrated.
Gotta say, this one was one of the best Sardonicast episodes so far!
I loved when Chris Pratt had this emotional moment with his friend the dinosaur and talks with it and it talks back and says: it's because... i always want to be with you
You guys missed the scene where the Giga Joker Dino mailed used condoms to Chris Pratt. He's just like the Joker.
To be honwst I think the visuel effects in The Lost World in many examples are better than the original Jurassic Park, specufically with how seemless the transitions between the Digital and Animatronic models are.
I also think a lot of the CGi overall is just as good if not better than the first, with a few acceptions.
Not sure why Ralph didn't watch the 2nd one beforehand, but then again this isn't a trilogy that's worth keeping up with, so I don't blame him.
Edit: Just got to the David O. Russell part and... Holy s**t, how is he allowed to continue working?
Heat also inserted the pay day series which is awsome BTW
I would like to attend SARDONICAST WORLD am I right fellow fans??!!
Dude, I can't wait for the Jenkem stands!
RalphLand is just him labeling if you're "interesting" or "not interesting".
Literally every prehistoric animal in the Jurassic franchise was real except Indominus Rex and Indoraptor. Giganotosaurus and Atrociraptors are actual animals
Even though in universe they’re not hybrids they might as well be because they neither resemble nor act like the actual animals they’re based off of.
I hope next episode they mention Armond White’s infamous claim that I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry helped the LGBTQ+ community more than Brokeback Mountain did
I didn't see Neil as the villain, actually I think he was better because he didn't allow his criminal life to hurt other people, while Vincent hurted everyone around him with his sick obsesion for his job.
"Higher than any temperature recorded in Las Vegas" there Adam goes again flexing his Canadian pride 🍁🍁🍁
Fallen Kingdom brought back a lot of practical effects due to criticism of the first JW and it’s a really fun film for that reason
It would probably never happen, but i would love to hear them talk about “the wire” series. Like what ralph said about the characters in heat not being black or white n more of a grey area, thats exactly what makes the wire such a fantastic series. To me its top 5 tv series of all time
41:05
To clarify on what Ralph said, Jurassic World Dominion doesn't have any hybrid or 'made-up' dinosaurs, although the way they are brought into the movie and used they might as well be fictional(laser targeting Atrociraptors, and Joker Giganotosaurus are the two best examples), every newly introduced dinosaur in the movie was a real animal, and even a few of them were in Prehistoric Planet(Atrociraptor, Therizinosaurus, and possibly Dreadnoughtus although this one wasn't mentioned by name in the show)
Ralph said a similar thing in his Review of the movie claiming them to just be making up dinosaurs, I do think this definitely highlights how little the movies really focus on the science of Paleontology anymore to the extent that the average audience member would just assume these are fictional animals.
I just want to clarify if this comment is seen by Adam, who I know sometimes checks statistics on whether people have commented before, I am a long time viewer of all three of you guys, and me leaving comments like this I only mean to inform about misinformation about this topic that I am deeply passionate about.
Oh hey, you're the guy who made the reddit post!
@@forestskilbred9461
Yes I cought this in the episode an I thought I'd make a more detailed reddit post.
I guess one could see this as spamming, but I just wanted to make sure more people didn't make the same easy mistake as ralph did.
Kind of neat that you found both posts though lol.
I think if you speak up about directors doing awful things, and then work with directors who have done those awful things it's very hypocritical.
Dominion would’ve been greatly improved if they brought back the taking raptor from JPIII.
Oh shit, I just watched Brokeback Mountain for the first time. Great timing!
And about the Marvel fatigue, with Ralph, Doc Strange and Thor I enjoyed. I keep seeing people who complain about the Marvel fatigue have a watchlist of only new Marvel movies and it’s extremely confusing.
Ralph: Your brain knows it's fake
You might not have noticed, but your brain did.
Thank you, Adum! The untouchebles is ungodly paint by numbers.
When he walks out on his girlfriend, I thought it was him not wanting her to be involved in this stuff. If he'd gotten into the car he probably would've succeeded.
But he also spotted Al Pacino's heat around the corner, so that principle he's been dedicated to for ages dictated his decision to leave Edie.
No one:
Ralph: "Well in Tenet...."
I probably like The Insider better, but Heat is for sure Mann's most iconic movie.
I'm of the unpopular opinion that Theif is better than Heat haha
Al Pacino is a cop, but he is bombastic, vain and impulsive. De Niro is a criminal, but he is stoic, composed and never yells. Two sides of the same coim indeed
Jurassic World - The dinos in broad daylight look stupid, make it dark and rainy.
Godzilla - I can't even see it, stop showing Godzilla at night and in the rain.
The Jurassic World films are very good SyFy films.
I’d unironically say the first Jurassic World has a lot of good parts and I’d actually give it a 6/10, no clue what the fuck happened afterwards though
I completely agree with this, well said. Just high budget syfy movies.
Heat is one of my favorite movies of all time, there are some others that I find funnier or more charming. But Heat has so many stellar performances and has such an amazing vibe. Forget the Dark Knight, this depicts the urban sprawl perfectly. Easily the best neo noir film made so far.
Plus, the bank robbery scene and following shootout is the most perfect 15 minutes of cinema. Immediately, it establishes stakes, keeps the pace up and is brutal, gritty and real.
Maybe the Heat was the friends we made along the way.
i haven't seen Book of Henry but i have seen Folding Idea's video on it like ten times now. i don't think i could finish the actual movie if i tried haha
Yesss, I love Brokeback so much
I think with some of their criticisms of Heat, they are missing the core theme of the film being about the damage crime does to relationships on all sides. I think the elements with Pacino's character's family are essential to the film.
I know the episode was recorded weeks ago, but I agree with Ralph here about the ‘Marvel Fatigue’. There is a lot of non-founded criticism online about the state of things, and while I understand it feels like it’s a chore to watch all these movies back to back; just stop, relax and take some time to do other stuff and come back whenever you want to, they’re not going anywhere. Also people overblow how much power Marvel Studios has on the pulse of filmmaking, when they are just trying to do their thing and other execs and studios profit on the bullshit they think sells.
I think Marvel is getting back on track again, from what was shown on SDCC. They have stated before that the phase we’re in was a prologue for what happened in Endgame, and the projects that have come out since has been developing a new status quo of things after all these characters we’ve known are gone.
I do have to admit that the only two projects that I think has suffered most have been Black Widow and Eternals. While I do think they could have been better, they were enjoyable still. But it does feel like they should’ve come out way before endgame, so it wouldn’t feel like a step down anyway.
MCU has a huge outsized place in film culture.
And they consume a lot of the conversation. Around movies as well.
I think a big factor that contributed to the Marvel fatigue is the lack of an overarching villain. Even by the end of Avengers 1, Thanos was introduced. Kang is supposed to be the next big bad but so far he only popped up in Loki. And even then it wasn't Kang exactly. It was a more peaceful variant
@@CoOlKyUbI96 I think it was a double edge-sword to call Phase 4 an “Epilogue”, since it is true that ends cycles and begins new ones, but I get it that the idea of the “Multiverse” as a villain is not a concept that normal viewers would get.
@@alansandoval1705 While I understand the reasoning of Phase 4 is that it's about the Multiverse. I still think it's not enough. People probably feel fatigue partly because there is no overarching goal or villain or objective. Aside from fanservice and added context, none of the conflict seems to be affecting other projects except for Loki. Almost all the big conflicts are self contained
@@CoOlKyUbI96 that falls on the umbrella that this new chapter is establishing a new Status Quo. The biggest heroes are gone (mostly) so I understand having more than a few new characters to fill in those spots.
People on Twitter complain about the MCU because they are passionate fans of these characters from comic and cartoons so they do want these movies to actually meet their expectations (not be shitty) so I think their criticism is reasonable.
great ep dudes. love Heat
the best part of the new jurassic wirld film wasnt even part of the film. Where are those 3 minutes of just dinosaurs without music from the trailer?
"Crime opera." Bravo, Ralph.
《I thought he was angry boi not a rapey boi》
-Adum 2022
'cause she's got a great Sardonicass
1:06:22
“But I guess it was like an autistic statement”
-Ralph Sepe Jr., 2022
Tom Noonan! We need more Tom Noonan!
They need to cover Manhunter now!
Also the Carnotaurus was the one that wiggled their arms in Prehistoric Planet
Book of Henry is WILD
Everyone please watch it
the scene where val kilmer runs out of ammo and reloads his gun early onto the shootout is actually so on point its used to teach reload technique to army and swat.
25:05 I get the video format and audio points, but I don’t quite understand the repeated emphasis on NowThis only covering police violence and racism, and it being the first time they would ever cover anything besides it. A quick search of the channel immediately disproves that
Ralph gushing a LOT this ep. 😂 Not saying it's a bad thing.
I was way into Heat and Michael Mann in high school.... Then The Dark Knight came out in 08, my junior year, and the rest is mf history.
I guess what I'm saying is The Dark Knight is the REAL Heat 2.
I hate bad movies that are especially 2 and a half hours long. They become so boring and bloated. Say what you will about Jurassic Park 3 and how bad it is, at least it was only 90 minutes.
Add a bit of Joker to that Dinosaur
1:59:45 Ralph must have been created in a lab using CRISPR to have the worst taste and the most shit takes ever
11:20 Jurassic Park has little to nothing to do with real paleontology or science tho, the DNA they use for the dinos is from fucking frogs (for the twist that they can change sex), most dinosaurs were inaccurate to the scientific understanding, manly T-Rex (apex predator with poor sight that actual had a fantastic sight) and the size and lack of feathers from Raptors. Spielberg is a amazing. director and those movies are great, but he never cared about portraying science in a real way.
If you are looking for more stuff like that check out my man Trey The Explainer, great paleontology content.
I love Book of Henry. Probably for the wrong reasons.
Day 30 of asking for an episode on the Evil Dead trilogy
I'm not on Twitter or anything so often out of the loop with this kind of thing - why did Ralph call Taika Waititi an idiot? I did a quick Google search and all I could find was that he made a joke about the VFX in the new Thor, which yes I can see why people are pissed about that, but it is just one comment and it wasn't THAT bad. Is there anything else?
To be fair, one moment of CG that really hasn't aged well in the original Jurassic Park is the Brachiosaurus scene. But like YMS said, it's because of the lighting. The Rex still looks pretty good, as do the raptors. The World trilogy is still worse than even Jurassic Park 3. Absolute trash
I’ve literally never seen a Marvel movie besides Spiderman
You should watch Infinity War.
Good for you?
You're so quirky and different
Good
@@luiginastro8831 why the need to be so condescending? I never said it made me quirky or different I mentioned it because they said people complain about Marvel but still support it.
I hope one day that they will watch more golden and silver age films. They would realize that Heat is standing on the shoulders of so many other great heist and noir films.
Jurassic Park should have ended after The Lost World, they never needed to make any more. Dominion is the worst one yet, because it just feels like nothing. At least Fallen Kingdom had some nice shots.
How did these sardonic boiz forget about the part where Jokersaurus talked about society?!?!
These Jurassic Park movies are so bad that I forgot the last one was the one with that idiotic mansion/clone plot rather than the first one. Literally forgot I saw it.
Good God, dominion was trash. Fell asleep on it in the theatre and fell asleep on it at home
I actually just watched Heat for the first time 2 weeks ago.
It was pretty good. Not great. I think I've listened to too many podcasts about it. Like The Rewatchables pod fucking loves Heat.
The police shootout was INSANE though. Geez, what wanton violence and destruction.
It’s great!
My favorite Parasocial relationship homies!
Very tempted to listen to this one since Heat is in my all-time top three, but I just can’t deal with Adum’s staggering ignorance anymore. He’s like the queen alien now; ensconced in his hive, gradually shitting out another slimy opinion on a movie he didn’t even watch, and growing fatter off the ad-revenue/Twitch stream dollars his drones feed him.
Honestly, I dont even think Emmerich likes destroying shit up anymore. I think its the only thing that gets him a paycheck. His set pieces have gotten short and too simple. Nothing like Independence Day laser scene of extended, pure destruction.
Pacino almost ruined Heat. I have seen him not suck in other movies, but I think it takes a director that suppresses his tendency to overact. Mann excels at a lot in his craft, but getting Pacino to not be an obnoxious melange of his previous roles was apparently beyond him.
Pacino fried his brain on coke during the filming of Heat
Theif is his best film!!!
oh shit i forgot to watch Heat
It's interesting that Ralph goes so hard on how terrible people are and how he would never work with people like that in one breath, and in the next says he would work with Allen and Polanski lol. CK is too much for you but you'd work with them? Jfc get off your high horse, it's embarrassing
Yeah, that part seemed a bit odd. He literally called CK evil in a previous podcast. Fucking evil. I think there’s something too close for home with the CK stuff.
13:34 8:59 5:29
Adam how can you say based france in front of Alex?!? you want to get stabbed?
I love Alex from I ate cheese
Say shlock one more time…
Ralph's read of Heat's ending is so off