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A common trend seen when discussing top tier characters is usually how unfair, overpowered or "DLC" they are. Yet strangely Wolf, despite widely being regarded as a top 10 character, garners more respect than disdain. So today we're gonna find out Why EVERYONE Plays Wolf, and more importantly why Wolf doesn't carry the same stigma that other top tiers like Steve, Kazuya, Pikachu, Aegis and Joker do.
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Basically while Wolf is a perfectly designed generalist, ROB is what you get when you push all of Wolf's factors to 101% to the point where he isn't actually a single archetype because he has the FULL capabilities of every archetype to the point where ROB is basically a transformation character that changes based on how you play him rather than being tied to a specific move. With Wolf they found the exact right point to cap his power so that you HAVE to use all of his traits rather than choosing which one you prefer.
i mean wolf can be dishonest but that's only really in online and well that's not very hard to do in online with any character
I think besides Mario, Wolf is the sort of character that will show you what kind of player you are through playing him.
I'm curious what you mean by that. I tend to play really safe and defensively. How would I find that by playing wolf?
@@stevepoper8073 Lots of Neutral B and F-Tilts, as well as a more grounded gameplay.
@@stevepoper8073 I think he means that you can play safe and spam lasers if you want, you can try to space people with fair or ftilt and play the "swordie game" or you can be aggressive and jump in and go for strings/combos. Wolf allows for a lot of different styles of play just like Mario
@@N12015 Wolf has a lot of fundamental play styles that you can lean on or mix into your own personal style like Mario. Wanna space? Go for it, wanna zone, sure. Wanna be aggressive, by all means.
@@stevepoper8073 Wolf is a pretty versatile character. You would be able to play him both agressive and defensively. My post was saying that you would be able to assess a player's tendencies and style of play better with a character like Wolf.
Like if you played Wolf you would probably favor his neutral options like the gun and his tilts. You might also prioritize his punish game more as well. As opposed to someone more offensive who would be more inclined to pressure opponents with a more in you face or harassing sort of style.
As a Wolf main, I can confirm with everything you said. I was really happy when he came back from Brawl and even with so many new characters since the Wii era, I picked him up because he was so easy to learn at first, but as I started becoming better at the game I saw his potential as a rushdown fighter with very precise but devastating combos. He really is THE jack of all trades of SSBU as he is also very versatile to be used in different playstyles. I like getting up-close and personal, but if my opponent has a playstyle that counters mine, Wolf allows me to re-adjust my playstyle to exploit my opponents' weaknesses. I find myself doing this more often against Sonic players, for example. It's quite hard (especially online) to get up-close with Sonic but Wolf has incredible tools to force the opponent to fight you up-close.
i would love to see a "Why no one plays Greninja". been playing him since smash4 and he's generally considered "strong" but I'd love to see your take on why his player base is smaller comparatively to characters like joker!
I agree. I use too strongly binge play with Greninja but honestly it’s his lack of safe options. Though quick on the ground and even has solid edge getup gimmicks his out of shield options are really limited. His side B is slow and it only good for the occasional mixup kill, his counter isn’t the best due too it’s start up and his weight hurts him more than helps. Granted even with those flaws I believe Greninja is top tier potential. We just have no representation on him
As someone who will play greninja casually, but never competetively, it's his shield. Greninja's shield is one of the worst in the game because of how bad his out of shield options are. Unless you are a parry god, almost everything is safe on greninja's shield unless the attacker does a rising aerial or a cross-up. He has no way of fighting back against someone who hits his shield from upfront. Most other characters who have comparable out of shield options in terms of speed and atleast have more kill power and coverage. For example, Ike has some slow out of shield options, but atleast his grab is a reasonable speed and, if he manages to hit you with his out of shield option (either up-b or backair), you are probably dead. Greninja hitting a rising backair isn't scary and he sure as hell isn't hitting any other out of shield options due to their lack of coverage (up-air & up-smash) or decade long start-ups without enough range to punish spaced moves.
greninja is very popular in Europe
A lot of it has to do with his moves occasionally not working properly like up smash and up air. He's also is a glass cannon similar to Fox. However, unlike Fox, he doesn't have a safe kill move he can just kinda throw out, meaning he has to look for more kill confirms (which are also sometimes inconsistent), or just raw reads. Which makes him a lot worse in those last hit situations. In short, he can be a very frustrating character to play at times and that's why he's not very popular.
Was just thinking about this! He’s such a cool character with really interesting tools but he’s also definitely one of the worst of the fast, high damage low-mid weights
I feel like literally everyone plays Wolf in some capacity. He's super simple and super effective.
I actively refuse to play wolf. He looks really off compared to brawl wolf.
I just don't like the star fox pgs
I played him once and never touched him again unless I needed him to clear something like the arcade mode, the multi-battles or home run contest
Wolf is one of my worst characters, but I hate fighting against him and consider him overpowered.
I want to quote a sentence from MoldyBagel's video about why Kid Buu has stood the test of time and remained a really solid character throughout the life of FighterZ: "Kid Buu is a generalist character, he has tools for all situations and he's really freaking good at them, he got nerfed in some aspects yet his tools remain fundamentally strong"
Wolf is pretty much the same, he's an all rounder character that has avobe average options for most inportant scenarios in this game, he could get nerfed but his versatility would remain there
I do not really feel like Wolf is well-rounded, but I do feel like Kid Buu is one of the most comparable characters to him outside of Smash.
@@sigurdthebluehow is he not well rounded?
The only actual cheese he had in the past was how absurdly early his down smash sweet spot used to kill, and how early his back air kills.
1.) That down smash kill power has already been nerfed
2.) Back air sweet spot is surprisingly difficult to land, has a slow start up, and isn't something you can just throw out without risk
the reason why I like Wolf is that there is no moment where Wolf can't do anything in an MU.
all of his tools are functional, he is easy to use, the percentages of his enemies are easy to keep track of for combos, his recovery is decent if not the most fair recovery someone like him can have. Even if an MU looks down on him, he isn't hopeless.
Idea for another series like this. Why Everyone Stopped Playing insert character here. Discussing why certain characters had major dropoff at top level play throughout the lifespan of the game. I think the poster child for this has to be Lucina
I agree ☝️ I still think Lucina is low key a busted character as well. Great fundamentals
cough cough pichu
You forgot to mention that Pikachu can use falling nair to true combo into down smash and up smash which both kill around 130/140%. This works at any percent btw, his nair is just that good. So just something to consider for his kill confirms.
Mercenary doesn't need specialties he needs to have no weakness.
2:37 I thought it was a bit more exiting when pichu was shown off but yeah Pikachu's cool too
Keep in mind that before Ult's release, nobody expected Pichu to be as good as he was on launch since he was originally designed to be a joke character but people didn't consider that Melee was the game where Pikachu was at his weakest and Pichu has most of his stats slightly altered from Pika, and if Pikachu is top tier in the game the Pichu returns, I think you can do the math.
Might as well cover Lucina, the other honest top tier
She's no longer top tier. Outclassed by Mythra and even Cloud.
@@N12015 lmao cloud is not even top tier. And having better swordies like Pythra or Roy doesn’t mean Lucina is not top tier anymore lol.
@@Ericspil790 cloud is so top tier man what you talking about?
@@gabrielmoravargas4728 cloud in the same tier as Steve, Pyra or joker? Absolutely no. Some few People just think he’s top tier cause online or because their characters lose the cloud matchup so bad, but this is offline and he’s not top tier definitely, too many flaws. Upper high tier tho
@@Ericspil790 bro, he is like a slightly less powerful Roy pretty much, he has good speed, absurd range, extremely safe on shield, and a pseudo bad recovery that is actaully good once every like 5 times. If you consider top tier to be top 20 or 15, he's definitely top tier for me
i would like to slightly disagree with the sugesstion at the beginning that in melee fox and falco had similar win conditions, while on the surface their kits were identical their win conditions couldnt be more different. falco's two strongest kill moves, down air and f smash are both either only alright on fox in the case of f smash or literally can never kill ever in the case of dair
When I got back into competitive Smash last year, I initially had a few doubts on Wolf.
Then I realized I live in the same region as CDK and I began to use the character more often.
Now I believe Wolf is Top 3 in Ultimate.
I think that, also from a viewership perspective for the more casual fanbase, people like Shofu had a large influence on building up hype for him ever since he wasn’t added in smash 4.
I agree that wolf is good at a lot of things, especially the things you mentioned (range, combos, stray kills, and mobility despite not being as fast Fox), but I wouldn’t say he’s a master, or even good, at everything.
My main thing is that I think his recovery is, at most, sub-par like many other top tiers, such as The Aegis and Kazuya. His up b is very short and suffers from the same charge thing as the up b’s of the other two in his franchise, Ridley, and Sephiroth. And wolf slash puts you in free fall so you can’t use it in conjunction with his up-b like the other two in his franchise can use theirs. Even Kazuya can atleast still use moves after u-b or side-b.
I think what makes him very respected (even more so than Cloud as far as I know) is the fact that he doesn’t use this weakness of recovery to justify making himself really good in one specific area or a few specific areas, and instead just uses it to justify making himself good at a bunch of things (as you said). Cloud also suffers from this recovery issue, and while Cloud is still pretty well-rounded in the rest of his moveset, Cloud uses this recovery weakness to justify having very good range without the significant tradeoff of killpower or frame data. He’s a tiny bit of a glass cannon, but instead of funneling all his power into one area like some other glass cannons (Mac and Sephiroth being notable examples), he evenly distributes it among the rest of his moveset. And of course, just like you said, the thing that separates him from many others that are similar to him in the previously mentioned ways is that he is objectively overtuned. But no one really cares, cuz at the end of the day, he’s just cool like that, and you gotta respect him for it.
His neutral is just too good. His only major weakness is his poor recovery.
Yeah, he wins a lot of matchup due to his combo and kill confirm game which isn’t that hard to get at all.
Hey nice video but just a quick remark, I’m kinda sick and have some headaches for context but in order to eat your voice I had to put the sound up but when an ad poped it was very loud and uncomfortable and same for the music at the end, I don’t think I’m alone in that case so just letting you know
How about why no one plays pit/dark pit? They're almost never seen neither in competitive nor online
This would be an AMAZING follow up to Wolf since they both are jack of all trades, yet one is very popular and the other one never played. I'm guessing it's inconsistency and lack of sauce.
Probably the most boring character to play in the whole game imo, they do nothing which some other character doesn't do better. Average or below average at everything. They suffer a bit as well from having ungenerous hitboxes like WFT.
I like to play Wolf because AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'd like to see you cover the other "fundamentals" characters like mario or lucina.
been praying this would be the next one
what a nice surprise
You and Professor Stick sound very much like each other... just a random thought
I used to play Ridley but now I use wolf
As a wolf main I appreciate this
Wolf becoming a top tier after being pretty below average in Brawl made me so happy. Plus them updating his design to be closer to Star Fox 64 than Star Fox Command was the icing on the cake.
I thought he was based on his Star Fox Zero design in Ultimate (though I don't blame you if you forgot that game existed)
I'm very sure he was an above average character in Brawl. Wolf isn't known for long combos but neither was Brawl.
Wolf is one of those characters that really reminds you when your playing a mid/low tier that your not playing a high tier.
Somewhat, but I feel like Terry, Roy, Lucina and Zero Suit feel that way the most.
Wolf is kinda weird but kinda fun.
Could follow this up with "Why no-one plays Fox"
Hes fun to play and watch.
Wolf is the one character i really want to get better at, but struggle to get wins with. My fundies aren't great, and ive only been playing for less than a year. It's actually sad my most successful characters against my friends is Isabelle and Incinaroar.
Everyone plays Wolf because he’s so adorable
Yes. Just yes
@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat Fun Fact: Wolf has the 6th best Air Speed in the game.
@@orangeslash1667 nice
I'm starting to see a trend among these top tiers... Consistency.
Fire Wolf can also 2 frame so that means he has 5 moves that can 2 frame :3
Your voice is soothing so I fall asleep to your videos but I always circle back for the godlike content. Plz keep it up.
Wait until why no one plays PAC man
You should do pyra/mythra next
Ah, yes. Mr. “What’s end lag?” himself.
There's gotta be two April Fool's videos where it's "Why EVERYONE plays Random" and "Why NO-ONE plays Random"
"Why No One Plays Random" would legitimately be a really funny April 1st video!
wolf always has been good in super smash. given that they are old and were good in most games people will complain less quickly about them. only exception is jigglypuff but wolf also has a cool design to boot
I like wolf cause he looks cool
If you're top tier isn't a space animal, people are going to complain about them.
Can the next video be why no one plays Pokemon Trainer?
CAn you make one on Banjo and Kazooie? they were very hyped and a lot of people asked for them to be in Smash but I don't see anyone even talk about them
Every fing player has a wolf in their backpocket! If you dont know the matchup you get rekt! Could you do a "Why no one plays kirbo"!
You know I might just pick up Wolf because almost every single character I play struggles against projectiles, fighting mfs that just spam projectiles then when you get close they run off to the other corner to continue spamming, they aren't hard to fight but they are annoying to fight. I told myself I need to look for a character that could handle them much better, I was originally thinking Palutena but Wolf looks to be more fun.
@@richardmorgan3665 True
Because Kirby is bad. Slow, terrible aerial frame data, no range, terrible recovery and is the only fighter without specials because all 4 are terrible. Also, there's no shortage of better floaty combo characters like half of the Mario Bros. cast, Ness, Pikachu, Game&watch, Ness or even Lucas.
@@N12015 damn thats rough I never thought about it that way, what is his archetype supposed to be anyway
@@N12015 Counter-Argument he's Poyo boy
I love how objective you are in your content. Never change! Don't become like other youtubers.
Question: does Wolf have a great grab or do all Wolf players just play bait and punish? Wolfs even at 3m GSP will grab punish and pummel everything
His grab game is pretty helpful.
2 combo throws good angle on F-throw and a mediocre but still functional kill throw,
Wolf is best played bait and punish style. He looks aggressive, but its mostly becauze he wants you to feel overwhelmed by the pressure he puts with his movement: shorthops, full hops, dash in dash out, fox trots, fakeouts/mix ups.
Wolf has a good grab but its essential for Wolf players to be good at tomahawk grabs, conditioning shields and optimizing throw combos since its his main mixup from assaulting someone's shield with aerials and dash attacks
Hey vars can you do a why no one plays terry
II'm realizing that riddles is technically the only major rep of the character and alternis with it as well but as a secondary other than that those are it
the character is really fun and really easy so this always confused me I would like to hear your points/beliefs on why this character has so little representation
Please do why no one plays duck hunt duo
Why does everyone play wolf? Easy, it's because he's hot!
It's simple, he can hit your shield 3 times with smash attacks and still not be punished because his frame data is that bullshit for his range. If he hits your shield you have to back off because even if you parry he can just down smash immediately and hit u anyways lmao
Only his F smash is -10 and can't be shield grabbed, you can pretty solidly punish his Up smash and down smash out of shield or at least force a defensive option like shield or spotdodge from the Wolf. His F smash is definitely his best Smash attack but things like Steve F smash are much much better in range, kill power, speed and safety. If a Wolf player is relying on F smash, spotdodge downsmash, just go for an aerial out of shield and do not shield grab
Can you do a WHY Nobody Plays (Dark)Pit & WHY Everyone Plays Palutena ?
Pit is ok in every stat as a character but extremely mediocre in all of his areas, making him come off as underwhelming and boring. contrast to wolf who is very solid in every area and has a more free flowing kit
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening Then Zackaray comes in
Yes! Was waiting for this one!
Please do Ike or hero i beg
3:56
when is why everybody plays kazuya
Hes cool, he has good kills, and he is very simple. Based
Quick answer: Because it's a baby-mode character.
do a duck hunt video I DARE you
i still cant believe that down smash got nerfed twice and is sill considered the best in the game by a lot of people
I'd say Game and Watch down smash is probably decently better but yeah it's probably Wolf's best move in a vacuum
@@elchupacabra1406 i agree
because he's hot that's why. not that hard
yesssssssssss
I mean not wrong lol
Wolf is more of a King of all trades (except recovery). I'd put someone like Pit as Jack of all Trades, and someone like Inkling as Queen.
Can you do Villager and/or Isabelle?
There's one simple reason no one plays Isabelle. She just freaking sucks. The only things keeping her better than Ganon are small hitbox and good recovery
I dont play Wolf
Ehhhhh....I do not really respect Wolf it is unfair how he could be great at everything and not have any real exploitable weaknesses
pac man next
Wolf is a funny story, I mained them in brawl but quit for a while, came back in ultimate and just picked them up and swept rounds until Nintendo dropped nerfs in a patch. I didn't even know what tier they were
I think Wolf is a great beginner character but if he gets hit he dies the same way Mewtwo does.
So many combo videos use Wolf for a reason…
I thought it was because he was the ultimate generic model: Middle weight with middle size.
So...Fox is good, but Wolf is better.
Ehh more of a Falco player.. Wolf was never a main for me..
Day 96 of asking Vars for a Why Everyone Plays Samus 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I use him because he makes me feel some typa way 🥴
Tl;dw Everyone playing Smash is a Furry
i need to see a mario video please!
I love how people complain about all the Marths (and unique Fire Emblem characters) while the Star Fox characters exist
The only reason we don't get more Star Fox characters is because there hasn't been a *good* Star Fox game released since the GameCube and the series is possibly dead at this point
bruh star fox character are 3 characters and none of them are echo fighters. FE characters are so similar it's the only franchise to have 2 echo fighters. Not only that but Starfox doesnt even get new characters anymore meanwhile FE got 2 new characters in the last two games which doesn't really happen for any other franchise.
I dont play him cause Im not a furry
I think Wolf Is not that strong.
I would always play big Daddy Wolfe 🐺
It's interesting how Wolf Fire has gradually gained traction in the Wolf meta as a kill move. People are starting to realize how deceptively low the endlag is, and how effective it is for tech chases.
Yep I'll generally bank on fire wolf after getting like a soft nair tech chase at the ledge instead of going for a hard read down smash or dash attack since its power is in between both of those options and is generally worth the risk with more options covered.
I don't play Wolf, but when I do, I use it more than most Wolfs I see. What really sucks about getting hit with it, is you don't know which direction you're getting sent
@magnum567134 it's a solid kill option if you can read your opponent, and as a wolf main, it's one that I use frequently. But it requires you to be able to read your opponent or simply wait for an opportunity to strike because it has a fair amount of beginning and end lag and can be easily countered or punished outright. Still though, I wish I got to see more of it in higher level game play.
Easy: Wolves are Better than Foxes
>:l
Both are awesome tbh
I like foxes better but i love wolves too... just look at my sona:
I think it's worth mentioning the fact that he is also a very good counter to zoners, not only because of his reflector, but his air mobility and safe moves.
I’ve been a wolf main for about 8 or so months now, and I have no regrets. This character is fun as hell, cool, strong, and is deserving of all the attention he receives
I thought I was so cool and special when I realized Wolf was top tier and started maining him week 1. Little did I know everyone had the same thought 😂
He's a cool character and fun to play with. Sadly, I'm not good with him, since I'm terrible using his side b.
When a villain is a much more respectable top tier than the rest who are heroes.
As someone who hates fighting Wolf, it comes down to his agency, as you said it's frustrating to fight someone who can always dictate the speed of the match. That and a lot of Wolf's moves are pretty spammy which is also pretty irritating
as a wolf main, i used to disagree with you. but then i started using fsmash -> dash back fsmash 😅
Do you play online mostly or offline? That makes a huge difference in... spamminess
That Shofu reaction is so goated I still watch it to this day. It's so hilarious
I like wolf because he is edgy and a furry😄
Wolf is strong enough for being well valued, but, not enough for being hated
I am trash at this game but even I feel like a pro when I pick up wolf!!!
Remember the real appeal to Wolf: the furbait
True lol
Can somebody tell me what he said at 12:32 right after "amazing two framing potential" it goes: "he has a (missing word) kick that kills" Thanks!. I hear "sex" but i don't think that the right word^^'
In my case, across most of my mains:
"Why I Hate Fighting Wolf"
Honestly I didnt know he was well known for being easy to use, I thought he was just easy for me cause I played him since Brawl lol
I absolutely hate fighting Wolf because he’s pretty much just everything you could ever want in a character. He beats other brawlers with his disjoints and Blaster (I HATE THIS MOVE UGH), he whiff punishes sword characters with his great aerial mobility, and he disrupts zoners with his reflector. He even has a last-ditch effort cheese kill that’s not too hard to land (landing F-air to Side B offstage).
Basically, I get skill checked incredibly hard against this character 😅
Wait till you hear face a good rob, wolf is a jack of all trades but rob is a master of all 😂
Yeah Rob legitimately does everything Wolf does but better with his main downside being a bit slower and bigger. Probably one of the reasons why Rob is one of Wolf's hardest MUs. If you struggle fighting Wolf, I legitimately recommend picking Wolf up and learning his facets since its a character that everybody should know how to fight against. I've been a Wolf main for 3 years and I don't lose to Wolf players because I understand his biggest weaknesses and common habits that most Wolf players have, including myself.
@@elchupacabra1406 whats his biggest weaknesses besides recovery
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening Genuinely I think he's one of the easiest characters in the game to parry with a complete lack of any multihits plus his main neutral tools (fair and nair) both being frame 7 (up air as well) and both being easy to shield grab if not spaced properly (or if you use sourspot nair). I also think this one factor is a big reason why he can struggle against FGC characters a lot since he has to commit a lot more to aerial pressure than like any swordie or Palutena. Obviously recovery is the most glaring weakness with him being extremely double jump dependant and having an awful airdodge, but I think he has a number of small weaknesses that hinder him from freeing up worse characters or having slight losing matchups to relevant characters. The fact that Wolf can't do two aerials in one shortop or even one full hop can make his aerial approaches very predictable and like I said earlier, makes him have to commit more for big callouts. Wolf also being the perfect combo weight and kill weight in addition to being a fast faller can put him in 50/50 situations where he can just plainly die at sub 50 or lose his double jump and play the offstage game. His out of shield game might also be his second worst trait since shield grab is generally his fastest option with nair and fair out of shield being really easy to punish due to the amount of airlag they have and up smash being really only viable out of parry on any non burst option move. This trait generally makes Wolf players have to jump or roll out of shield and respect pressure from swordies and brawlers with better frame data. When it comes to Wolf player weaknesses, I'd easily say that most Wolf players are really bad at using laser and rely on it wayy too much neutral where its best purpose is in safe whiff punishing, safe advantage (off of throws and tech chases) and burning an airdodge offstage. I've seen so many Wolf players lose sets from 1 or 2 bad lasers as against certain characters it can either cost you stage control or set you up for an easy aerial combo starter. I'm speaking from personal experience as I used to get destroyed by rush downs from relying on laser while I now rely on his best trait which is ambiguous movement and aerial drift. Last point, I think the actual main reason why Wolf can struggle to kill is due to his bair not autocancelling low to the ground like fair, making it only useful in pressuring at short hop and beyond height (unlike a Palu or Joker bair for example). This makes it so Wolf doesn't have a killing forward facing aerial at all and his only reliable killing aerial is bair specifically when catching jumps. In comparison to other top tiers, it makes Wolf have to work that extra bit harder and be more creative at high level in order to secure that kill post tech chase percents as he can't really rely on overwhelming someone with his frame data; even lots of low-mid tiers have better frame data with equal or greater kill power for a number of moves. There's a few other small weaknesses but they'd probably be considered more like nitpicks to most people lol. Sorry for the unintentional essay, been maining the character for 3.5 years and have developed a lot of thoughts on him and in the meta
Im sorry but as a wolf main Ive never seen a single wolff onlinee😂😂
"You're good, but I'm better."
At the end you reference that at no point was Wolf over the cusp of people complaining about him, but I definitely remember seeing people not like Wolf before a certain patch. That patch nerfed his blaster and (sorta) down smash, which were frankly kind of ridiculous back then. Great discussion on generalists tho.
I forgot blaster was nerfed, but I definitely remember having a lot of trouble with it. I remember up smash and dash attack being the biggest problem moves early on though. I think down smash was more of something you would experience in highly competitive matches.
Been a Wolf main pretty much since Smash Ultimate came out