Yo man! Quick request. When you make optic focused vids, can you please show the reticle of the optic in the video please, even if it’s just a picture from online? Thank you! Great vid.
For budget lpvo I really like Swampfox, for pistol red dots I prefer Holosun even over the expensive brands, I'd be really interested to see what Holosun could do for a lpvo
I have the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10 and it's a pretty good budget LPVO as well. I do think I would have maybe been better off spending the same amount on the 1-6 Vortex. The 1-10 magnification is probably more than I really need.
Check out the Vortex Strike Eagle 1x8 FFP .. little bit more money than what you have in this video, but its still budget friendly and power packed! New optic released 2022, you won't be disappointed
Just picked up Monstrum 1x6x24 for my Brigade 9mm carbine . I needed magnification at 100yds and up. For the target shooting I do it’s more than enough….thanks for the video
Just pre ordered the Nova SLX 1-6 ACSS scope and really interested to see how she is compared to even the more expensive LPVO such as Credo, Steiner, and even a Razor. As someone mentioned earlier, I would love to see Holosun dive into LPVO. They really are my preferred RDS for pistols over most others.
@@ElliottDelp 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 thanks for your engagement with your supporters. I really appreciate you taking the time to even read and comment back. It’s things like this we love about your channel
I have both vortex strike eagle and primary arms and I think they’re identical minus the reticles. I actually heard,not sure if true or not,that they’re made in the same factory in the Phillipines…🤷♂️….Both are great choices though…
Looking at one from them. Thanks for the shout out of the PA SFP SLX LPVO! I'm checking the 5.56/5.45+ ACSS SFP SLX and another... Also one he mentioned above. The SOUSA seems okay for the money, I'm looking for 2, anyway. How is the eve relief? Hopefully 3-6" (forgiving)!?
@@GmanGSW 3.5 inches for eye relief on 1x which is very doable. Add an off set RDS that’s reliable and you got the “everything GPR” set up if you can afford it! Honestly, I prefer the 1-8x SLX SFP ACSS cuz it works for me much better than the 1-6x ACSS SFP 5.56 reticle….
@@joquin4618 Thank you for the honest info! I appreciate the response! Unless I'm firing a .308 or what not, I'm good with a 1-6x, but if the 1-8x were on sale, you've sold me! Really, thank you!
@@GmanGSW they’re literally just having a warehouse sale on their website and some of these scopes can be had 20%-30% off…. Most of them probably gone by now!!
Does it work? If yes then don't worry about it. Being effective doesn't always count on what you spend. It may not last as long or be built with the same quality material but that's the trade off with cheaper optics. And some are just crap. That being said, you can pay hundreds for crap as well. 🤣 If it works then run that sh!t till you can't run it no more. 🤣👍
I have new Rock River Arms Predator signature AR this is a work of art. I have Zeiss V6 3x18x50 on this rifele. It will hold 1 inch at 200yds. Can you imagein the the assholes I can drop at 300yds with this.
I picked up vortex 1-6x on sale with mount for $350. I have it on a 18” heavy barrel .223w build. It works fine, not crazy about the reticle but it works. Advice would be get a good trigger and lot of ammo to practice.
I have the firefield 1-6 and thats a decent one too. Was going to get the sig tango 1-8 but comparing the two the sig had significantly less features with little to no difference with glass, magnification and eye relief. Both are still made in china so I went with the budget optic. No regrets
I had the same scope too after 1000 rounds it broke the inside of the scope lens and flipped it to the side. I was really sad because it was a great scope.
I’ve been running a SWFA 1-4x24 for a couple decades. Very clear glass and built like a tank. I have no complaints. It has a great etched reticle plus daytime bright red triangle. Just my favorite LPVO.
I have 2 different SWFA fixed 10x scopes…. I’ve been running them for 15-20 years each as well!! Love them! Very clear glass and were totally worth the money! I had an army ranger friend that purchased 3 or 4 for his personal rifles when he got out of the service (or no longer active duty)
+1 tango msr, was released at like 250 and is still one hell of a value given the reticle and glass quality beating out all the other entry level optics while having a solid mount, caps and levers. Level line like the gucci tango6t is great too. I honestly feel sig sold these optics at break even or at a loss just to grab market share from the early bird PA and strike eagles. Also comes in 1-8 and 1-10 though they’re getting pricey. I’d honestly not go lower than this, and it’s the new budget lpvo king taking it from the strike Eagle and PA Chineseium optics.
@@mylesharvey6488 they’re all Chinese glass at this price point, the only difference is that msr has the most quality considering that it’s the newest release. The gen 2 strike Eagle does look pretty good to edge it out though
@@travisstorbakken1737 How is it? 1-6 seems golden despite being a budget option but I'm kinda skeptical about the 1-10 even with the 34mm tube at that price. Even razor's FFP 1-10 gen 3's aren't as good as the gen 2e's when it comes to light transmission, reticle brightness and eye box and relief at a superbly high price point. Was hoping that maybe the lesser known 1-8 is a better middle ground.
@@gob7116 not sure yet... I'm messing around with it (not shooting) I'm not sure I like the eye box/eye relief when at max power. 6 and lower is noticeably better but literally just put it on last night. Seems if I leave it at 3.5/4 power it's great for quick target acquiring. As of now I'm pretty ok with all of this as each power is going to be used in different scenarios. Longer range needing higher power I'm probably not looking for as fast target acquiring and can get lined up correctly on the gun. I have different scope mounts at different heights I will try before I say to much negative about it.
Just keep using your iron sights and keep saving your money for a higher quality scope, your life could depend on it. What I always think about is, what will the other person have on their rifle. What I need is, better tracking, better glass for low light and it has got to hold up to absolutely anything.
I was thinking like that..... until I realized.... I don't have the money to do that with all my guns. I'm very certain I won't need to worry about what the other guy is running because odds are in my favor there won't be that other guy....ever. I have a nice .300 blackout with a nice red dot. That's all I "need". Everything else is going to the range for fun and tacticool.
@@largelarry2126 I have a lot of guns by some people standard. I can't feasibly equip all of them with high quality components. I can do a couple but when shtf is my high dollar scope going to take anyone out if there is no ammo left to put in the gun it sits on?
I feel like the Primary Arms and Sig run neck and neck and to be honest I think the Sig has better glass though the ACSS on the Primary Arms reticle is cleaner.
I just missed the same deal from PSA! Congrats on the deal. Let me know how the eye relief is, if you would! Thanks! I'm looking for 2 scopes, as is...
Bet... not much difference in all of them except for glass clarity if the brand names were all removed. Even then... clarity probably isn't far off as well.
There are no stupid questions. If you don't ask questions you'll never get answers. 👍😁 for me not asking and assuming sounds stupid. Stay safe my friends.
If you want the best budget 1-6x LPVO with an etched reticle, go with the Burris RT6. It has better glass than all of these. No questions asked, lifetime transferable warranty, and you can find them new for $240-$300. The best 1-6x above the RT6 would be the Vortex Viper PST for around $500
WOW just watched what I would describe as a fanboy commercial. Reviewers should be completely impartial but you used the fact that your favorite lpvo was the one you paid the most for. The problem with that is your opinion is now worth nothing when you've proven not to be neutral. Do not recommend.
Specific magnification is a great feature in LPVO due to the fact they hit a broader market for hunters now and honestly if sh1t hits the fan be good to try to reach and hit a target
All of these scopes are marketed to novice shooters, and thus, all have reticle and dial adjustments which serve rangefinding and bullet drop compensation functions that the novice shooter demands but does not know how to use without training. That's the rub, this clutter of functions just serves to subvert the utility of these scopes, which would better serve shooters with a simple second plane post reticle, 1 to 4 power magnification, and MOA graduated elevation/windage dials. Creds: Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Courses.
I ended up with the bushnell illuminated 1x6. Does the job and it’s held up over the past year with no issues. The illumination is a little dim in direct sun light and the battery life isn’t the best but I love it so far.
I use a Bushnell, but looking to add 2 more and I'm glad to hear the endorsement of Bushnell. No problems with mine, either, but not illuminated! Moving up to illumination and a BDU reticle or a BDU and an MOA. I'm buying 2...
Dang, I will consider my self lucky. Got my 2 strike eagles for $200 each new about 3yrs ago and I just got 2 mantis for $100 each from Botach to check them out.
Just want to mention that the term "budget" is thrown around to essentially mean.. "if your broke.. this MIGHT work". Not always the case. But if your into shooting a LOT and dont focus on what everyone dreams of in a strictly "i gotta big D and look at what i got.. im better".. ive seen and use some "budget" scopes that function amazingly at 3-400 yards that are quite fine and do the job. Americans get caught up in the glitz and glammer. They like lookin cool and dont want that "image" that a "budget" scope seems (at least to some) to offer. Id say that most people that buy high end gear hardly know what they are doing to begin with. Some of my buddies are absolute savages while running drills and shooting distance. The moral if this story? Look at as many reviews as you can.. and make a decision. You dont need to be wealthy or make the connection that simply paying a lot more cash = better. It doesnt. There is no shame in my game using "budget" anything. When sh*t goes down.. i will say there will be a ton of high end gear left on the battlefield. And if a "budget" thermal sends your soul into the clouds.. the cost of that optic matters not. God bless and get ready🎉🎉
Show what you got at work talks cheap show it in action ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS show the reticle the clarity of glass show the features in action
Vortex is still a Chinese scope acting like it's not!!! Arken for example is definitely better scopes even though they are also manufactured in China!!!! if I can go get me a used Leopold, for less for example (which I CAN!!!) there is no way I am going to get a Vortex!!! the Quality is simply not there for that price demand!!! it's not, not at all!! sellers get kickbacks from Vortex, it don't mean its the better scope it just means it's promoted more because people get paid to promote them..! there are far better budget scopes then this
I got my Vortex SE at about the time of this video on Gun.Deals for $269 with the Vortex mount. I was torn between the Sig and Vortex but opted for the lifetime warranty that Vortex has.
Little advice if you want to be the type of reviewers you are trying to act like. 1. Stop looking at each other and look at the camera. 2. Guy in the blue shirt, stop squeaking your voice. 3. Take time show the scopes glass, reticle, individually, and comparatively. People want to know what they will see looking through that. Didn’t even finish this video, but I want the youth to succeed, so practice making good, interesting, quality videos.
Im in the market for an LPVO... i am tired of red dots. My advice as someone who dove head-first into AR's in 2016... buy once, cry once. It's a tired phrase by now, I undrrstand... but doing the math, all the cash i spent experimenting with sub-par shit... had i saved it and bought good shit... I'd be ahead as far as my budget.
Guy on the left was confused on 1st and 2nd focal plane he thought it had to do with the magnifier going 1/1.5/2/ 2.5 etc, other guy recovered well kept on talking 👍🏼
Cheap scopes just lend you to spending 2 to 3 times as much till you get the one you need. If you want a durable optic and can't save up for a $1800+ LPVO you shouldn't look at anything under that $250 price point. Vector makes 3 of the scopes you have there. Vector has been under Sig international's interest for decades. The MSR should be at the bottom of anyone's list of budget optics. It's decent enough to to shoot out to 400yds in 6x, but daily cary in a vehicle or if your into practical shooting matches they don't hold up long to abuse. Monstrom is a range toy class optic that even the Chinese parent manufacturers won't bother to market. It's bad advice for anyone, stay away from Monstrom, Aim, Leapers and budget companies that offer all the features of a high end optic at 1/10th the price. Your getting 1970 cheap .22lr nylon turret technology for that $150 bucks....leave it in the sun for a couple of hours in the western states and see how good it holds zero. Iron sights are really a better option out to 500 meters than a monstrom optic. Light Optic Works of Japan/Taiwan manufacturers scopes and parts for pretty much everyone. Vortex, Primary Arms, USO, Leupold, Nightforce, Trijicon, EOTech, Nikon/Cabela's and Bushnell....I'm sure I missed a bunch. Burris makes one of the most bullet proof LPVO's under $400, and it's still made mostly in the USA. It's one that should be on anyone's budget list Currently your best emmiter and retical component's come from Taiwan with a lot of German and Japanese backing. The great Japanese optics people have been loving for years have been using component's machined in Taiwan. Now China owns most of Japan and physically trying to take Taiwan. You don't have to spend $1200 to get into a decent optic, and American owned companies like Swampfox and Arken are putting out some of the best scopes for your dollar if you're on a tight budget. Check out Joe the Cyclops and the Dark Lord of optics here on TH-cam. They do comparisons threw the optic so you can actually see glass clarity and tracking.
Funny, I got the vortex crossfire BECAUSE it's a 1-4. Took forever to find it but I didn't want more than 4x for the range the ar15 is capable of. Love the crossfire. Bought it over the strike eagle and would do it again.
When children express their opinion, they talk about optics, about weapons, even if they have a written text, it doesn’t look serious to me, it’s not reliable at all🙈
Decent video brining up the optics that are affordable but no show of reticle view, comments of FOV or eye relief or mention of haze/distortion on any of the optics. just mentioned a couple and said yeah these are good budget LPVO's. Could have put a little more effort into explaining the reasoning behind each. This video is only good for doing more research on each.
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Did you know it's a federal crime making scopes videos and do not show the reticles??
Yes yes yes yes yes
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A little slide into SBR classification at th-cam.com/video/Keq-r1CdeF0/w-d-xo.html as well. ;)
Yo man! Quick request. When you make optic focused vids, can you please show the reticle of the optic in the video please, even if it’s just a picture from online? Thank you! Great vid.
Reticle selection is definitely one of the most important parts on an LPVO or any scope really. It's such a personal preference.
@@chatnasty yeah I agree. Unless the price is just unbeatable, it all comes down to how the reticle and glass look
Also maybe talk about the glass quality, eye box and maybe any fish eye the optics give.
They did say "hashmarks", lol.
I mean, I get that BUT you could just Google the name of the optic and then put reticle too
For budget lpvo I really like Swampfox, for pistol red dots I prefer Holosun even over the expensive brands, I'd be really interested to see what Holosun could do for a lpvo
Yes, I want solar charging for sure.
I own a bunch of swampfox optics. I love them
Why wouldn't you show the reticles? That's kind of insane doing a review on a scope and not showing what the reticle looks like.
Mine is Illuminated Reticle :Red/Green ,6 levels of brightness
Swampfox should be in the list amazing lpvo and great price especially for Leo/military individuals
No reticles shown... Literally a pointless video my friend.
Every scope should definitely come with a mount. Sucks they dont
I have the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10 and it's a pretty good budget LPVO as well. I do think I would have maybe been better off spending the same amount on the 1-6 Vortex. The 1-10 magnification is probably more than I really need.
I would take my Victoptics S6 1-6x for $100 over the SOUSA and the Monstrum.
Check out the Vortex Strike Eagle 1x8 FFP .. little bit more money than what you have in this video, but its still budget friendly and power packed! New optic released 2022, you won't be disappointed
Just picked up Monstrum 1x6x24 for my Brigade 9mm carbine . I needed magnification at 100yds and up. For the target shooting I do it’s more than enough….thanks for the video
Just pre ordered the Nova SLX 1-6 ACSS scope and really interested to see how she is compared to even the more expensive LPVO such as Credo, Steiner, and even a Razor. As someone mentioned earlier, I would love to see Holosun dive into LPVO. They really are my preferred RDS for pistols over most others.
Holosun is literally perfect, unfortunately they’re made in China but the luck I’ve had with their quality seems great for most people
@murkyturkey5238 wish they made a "made in America" line up. Even if it's $60-70 more for the exact same thing it would be a nice option.
About to finish a 308 build and dont have a ton of money left to spend thanks for the video.
What did you end up getting. Tryna put a 1x6 on an FAL
How’d it go?😜
Just got a Vortex Crossfire 2 from optics planet for $169 on a clearance sale, seems pretty nice.
What size and power??
I just bought a Crossfire 2 for my 350 Legend.
You should do a total budget mod video. Like laser, stock, light, foregrip, etc
I can add it to the list
@@ElliottDelp 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 thanks for your engagement with your supporters. I really appreciate you taking the time to even read and comment back. It’s things like this we love about your channel
I clicked on this video to hopefully learn something about lpvo but have of the video is commercial.
I have both vortex strike eagle and primary arms and I think they’re identical minus the reticles. I actually heard,not sure if true or not,that they’re made in the same factory in the Phillipines…🤷♂️….Both are great choices though…
Elliot, when’re you gonna drop some hats? I’d buy some from ya (as long they ain’t $25+)
Sig tango msr is very nice, I have the 1x10
Good choices. Got the primary Arms LPVO SFP SLX and they are great for the $$$…
Looking at one from them. Thanks for the shout out of the PA SFP SLX LPVO! I'm checking the 5.56/5.45+ ACSS SFP SLX and another... Also one he mentioned above. The SOUSA seems okay for the money, I'm looking for 2, anyway. How is the eve relief? Hopefully 3-6" (forgiving)!?
@@GmanGSW 3.5 inches for eye relief on 1x which is very doable. Add an off set RDS that’s reliable and you got the “everything GPR” set up if you can afford it! Honestly, I prefer the 1-8x SLX SFP ACSS cuz it works for me much better than the 1-6x ACSS SFP 5.56 reticle….
@@joquin4618 Thank you for the honest info! I appreciate the response! Unless I'm firing a .308 or what not, I'm good with a 1-6x, but if the 1-8x were on sale, you've sold me! Really, thank you!
@@GmanGSW they’re literally just having a warehouse sale on their website and some of these scopes can be had 20%-30% off…. Most of them probably gone by now!!
Its not a basement. Its a command center.
Interesting..
Die hard quote lol
The Sig is also available in FFP and something I also like about it is the lay flat lens covers.
Lost me at exposed turents. What is a turent? Did they mean turrets? If they don’t know that how can I trust anything else they say?
The Primary Arms FFP 1x6 is an excellent version of the scope mentioned here.
Why? I’m considering it too.
Little late to the party. The FFP raptor can get a little annoying at 1x outdoors.
I have the sig and i love it
It’s great!
Yeah I’m down with primary arms ANY DAY! I will not use monstrum, worst crap out there in my opinion. Bought a 1-6x24 and it was CRAP
Guess I’m too poor. Tacticon is all I got lol
Does it work? If yes then don't worry about it. Being effective doesn't always count on what you spend. It may not last as long or be built with the same quality material but that's the trade off with cheaper optics. And some are just crap. That being said, you can pay hundreds for crap as well. 🤣 If it works then run that sh!t till you can't run it no more. 🤣👍
Have y'all done a review of the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-6×24? Nice video guys👍
I have new Rock River Arms Predator signature AR this is a work of art. I have Zeiss V6 3x18x50 on this rifele. It will hold 1 inch at 200yds. Can you imagein the the assholes I can drop at 300yds with this.
I picked up vortex 1-6x on sale with mount for $350. I have it on a 18” heavy barrel .223w build. It works fine, not crazy about the reticle but it works. Advice would be get a good trigger and lot of ammo to practice.
What about the Burris RT6 1-6?
Should of brought in the TruBrite TruGlo 1×6×24. ....nice reticle and Day Time Bright !
Man y’all about put me to sleep with all that yappin
Yip yip
I have the firefield 1-6 and thats a decent one too. Was going to get the sig tango 1-8 but comparing the two the sig had significantly less features with little to no difference with glass, magnification and eye relief. Both are still made in china so I went with the budget optic. No regrets
I had the same scope too after 1000 rounds it broke the inside of the scope lens and flipped it to the side. I was really sad because it was a great scope.
You can also order a throw lever for the primary arms, and it's like 15 bucks or something. Just clamps over the knurling that's already there.
1x8 Strike Eagle with mount to my door for $333.00 from Palmetto State.
I’ve been running a SWFA 1-4x24 for a couple decades. Very clear glass and built like a tank. I have no complaints. It has a great etched reticle plus daytime bright red triangle. Just my favorite LPVO.
I have 2 different SWFA fixed 10x scopes…. I’ve been running them for 15-20 years each as well!! Love them! Very clear glass and were totally worth the money! I had an army ranger friend that purchased 3 or 4 for his personal rifles when he got out of the service (or no longer active duty)
Lost interest when you guys kept talking over each other. Big no-no in an EDUCATIONAL video
Why does vortex do 1/2 MOA adjustments on a ton of their optics? It’s such a deal breaker for me for otherwise great optics
+1 tango msr, was released at like 250 and is still one hell of a value given the reticle and glass quality beating out all the other entry level optics while having a solid mount, caps and levers. Level line like the gucci tango6t is great too. I honestly feel sig sold these optics at break even or at a loss just to grab market share from the early bird PA and strike eagles. Also comes in 1-8 and 1-10 though they’re getting pricey.
I’d honestly not go lower than this, and it’s the new budget lpvo king taking it from the strike Eagle and PA Chineseium optics.
The SIG MSR is Chinese Glass!
@@mylesharvey6488 they’re all Chinese glass at this price point, the only difference is that msr has the most quality considering that it’s the newest release. The gen 2 strike Eagle does look pretty good to edge it out though
Just picked up the 1-8 tango... excited to try it on the range.
@@travisstorbakken1737 How is it? 1-6 seems golden despite being a budget option but I'm kinda skeptical about the 1-10 even with the 34mm tube at that price. Even razor's FFP 1-10 gen 3's aren't as good as the gen 2e's when it comes to light transmission, reticle brightness and eye box and relief at a superbly high price point. Was hoping that maybe the lesser known 1-8 is a better middle ground.
@@gob7116 not sure yet... I'm messing around with it (not shooting) I'm not sure I like the eye box/eye relief when at max power. 6 and lower is noticeably better but literally just put it on last night.
Seems if I leave it at 3.5/4 power it's great for quick target acquiring.
As of now I'm pretty ok with all of this as each power is going to be used in different scenarios.
Longer range needing higher power I'm probably not looking for as fast target acquiring and can get lined up correctly on the gun.
I have different scope mounts at different heights I will try before I say to much negative about it.
Just keep using your iron sights and keep saving your money for a higher quality scope, your life could depend on it. What I always think about is, what will the other person have on their rifle. What I need is, better tracking, better glass for low light and it has got to hold up to absolutely anything.
I was thinking like that..... until I realized.... I don't have the money to do that with all my guns. I'm very certain I won't need to worry about what the other guy is running because odds are in my favor there won't be that other guy....ever.
I have a nice .300 blackout with a nice red dot. That's all I "need".
Everything else is going to the range for fun and tacticool.
@Travis Storbakken Tell that to people of Ukraine, I bet they wished had top quality equipment and a lot more ammo.
@@largelarry2126 I have a lot of guns by some people standard. I can't feasibly equip all of them with high quality components. I can do a couple but when shtf is my high dollar scope going to take anyone out if there is no ammo left to put in the gun it sits on?
@Travis Storbakken I understand and also have both. I have things like Sig, Trijicon, Holosun, Aimpoint, Leopold plus some others.
OPPS....... also buy more ammo first. Keep in mind that the Grate Depression lasted ten years. Next time, it will most likely be thirty on more.
I feel like the Primary Arms and Sig run neck and neck and to be honest I think the Sig has better glass though the ACSS on the Primary Arms reticle is cleaner.
Just ordered the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 from PSA. Comes with the Vortex base for $399 less $120 on a daily deal.
I just missed the same deal from PSA! Congrats on the deal. Let me know how the eye relief is, if you would! Thanks! I'm looking for 2 scopes, as is...
@@GmanGSW Eye relief is great. A week after I got the 1-6, they had the 1-8 at the same out the door price.
@@Cope1024 Thank you, much!
@@GmanGSW Sorry to be so late; glad I could help you.
Bet... not much difference in all of them except for glass clarity if the brand names were all removed. Even then... clarity probably isn't far off as well.
I just did a Primary Arms review on the scope I just got. It was a 2 star. They didn't use it. Primary arms is not that good.
SPARKY SOME DAY YOU WILL UNDER STAND THE 1.5 OR 3 AS YOU GET OLDER THAT LITTLE .5 HELPS YOU SEE... NOT YELLLLLLING ONLY HAVE ONE ARM...
Do a drop test to see if they still hold zero
You guys throw around a bunch of letters like everyone knows what the heck your talking about
You should check out the Tacticon Apex Falcon 1-6 LPVO
y'all left out the Victor optic 1x6x LPVO and you can usually get them for roughly $89 to $129. and in my opinion they are better then Monstrum
This is probably a stupid question are any of these etched recitals if so which? And great video as always!
I am not sure if these are wire or etched reticles.
There are no stupid questions. If you don't ask questions you'll never get answers. 👍😁 for me not asking and assuming sounds stupid. Stay safe my friends.
If you want the best budget 1-6x LPVO with an etched reticle, go with the Burris RT6. It has better glass than all of these. No questions asked, lifetime transferable warranty, and you can find them new for $240-$300.
The best 1-6x above the RT6 would be the Vortex Viper PST for around $500
What is a Turent?
gave me a damn heart attack with that record skip
WOW just watched what I would describe as a fanboy commercial. Reviewers should be completely impartial but you used the fact that your favorite lpvo was the one you paid the most for. The problem with that is your opinion is now worth nothing when you've proven not to be neutral. Do not recommend.
Specific magnification is a great feature in LPVO due to the fact they hit a broader market for hunters now and honestly if sh1t hits the fan be good to try to reach and hit a target
Right now the Primary Arms are on sale for $199 with free shipping and free mount. I bought one.
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Just went to PSA and $299 for vortex and mount 🤯
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All of these scopes are marketed to novice shooters, and thus, all have reticle and dial adjustments which serve rangefinding and bullet drop compensation functions that the novice shooter demands but does not know how to use without training. That's the rub, this clutter of functions just serves to subvert the utility of these scopes, which would better serve shooters with a simple second plane post reticle, 1 to 4 power magnification, and MOA graduated elevation/windage dials. Creds: Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Courses.
Cool way to flex n make it seem like ur a pro !! Faggot
Show the reticles!!!
I’d put the arken over 4/5 of those.
❤ the Sig tango!
I can't find that Sig for under 330, anybody have any suggestions?
Battlehawk armory for $235
I bought a Monstrum at Target love the 1 - year warranty
I ended up with the bushnell illuminated 1x6. Does the job and it’s held up over the past year with no issues. The illumination is a little dim in direct sun light and the battery life isn’t the best but I love it so far.
I use a Bushnell, but looking to add 2 more and I'm glad to hear the endorsement of Bushnell. No problems with mine, either, but not illuminated! Moving up to illumination and a BDU reticle or a BDU and an MOA. I'm buying 2...
I never use the illumination during the daytime it's just a wast of battery's.
What the hell is a turent? I believe the word you're looking for is TURRET. 🤭 Still subscribed though. 👍
That's how they say it in the Hood turnt up!!@😂
Gross dude you needed to feel better than someone that day lol
2:10 It’s hard to assign any value to this overview with features such as exposed T U R E N T S highlighted.
Would be nice to show the reticle
Burris and primary arms are the only budget LPVO’s id go with
What's a turent?
Dang, I will consider my self lucky. Got my 2 strike eagles for $200 each new about 3yrs ago and I just got 2 mantis for $100 each from Botach to check them out.
Dang those strike eagles were a good deal
Just want to mention that the term "budget" is thrown around to essentially mean.. "if your broke.. this MIGHT work". Not always the case. But if your into shooting a LOT and dont focus on what everyone dreams of in a strictly "i gotta big D and look at what i got.. im better".. ive seen and use some "budget" scopes that function amazingly at 3-400 yards that are quite fine and do the job. Americans get caught up in the glitz and glammer. They like lookin cool and dont want that "image" that a "budget" scope seems (at least to some) to offer. Id say that most people that buy high end gear hardly know what they are doing to begin with. Some of my buddies are absolute savages while running drills and shooting distance. The moral if this story? Look at as many reviews as you can.. and make a decision. You dont need to be wealthy or make the connection that simply paying a lot more cash = better. It doesnt. There is no shame in my game using "budget" anything. When sh*t goes down.. i will say there will be a ton of high end gear left on the battlefield. And if a "budget" thermal sends your soul into the clouds.. the cost of that optic matters not. God bless and get ready🎉🎉
You should review Vortex's new Strike Eagle 1x8 FFP scope
I agree
Show what you got at work talks cheap show it in action ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS show the reticle the clarity of glass show the features in action
Since you like that POS vortex strike Eagle so much I'll trade ya mine it's brand new for that sig msr. I absolute despise that strike Eagle.
The Vortex came down a lot in price. Optics Planet has it for $210. If you want the 8X Strike Eagle... you can get that for $270 right now.
Vortex is still a Chinese scope acting like it's not!!! Arken for example is definitely better scopes even though they are also manufactured in China!!!! if I can go get me a used Leopold, for less for example (which I CAN!!!) there is no way I am going to get a Vortex!!! the Quality is simply not there for that price demand!!! it's not, not at all!! sellers get kickbacks from Vortex, it don't mean its the better scope it just means it's promoted more because people get paid to promote them..! there are far better budget scopes then this
I got my Vortex SE at about the time of this video on Gun.Deals for $269 with the Vortex mount. I was torn between the Sig and Vortex but opted for the lifetime warranty that Vortex has.
I believe Sig offers the same lifetime warranty
Little advice if you want to be the type of reviewers you are trying to act like.
1. Stop looking at each other and look at the camera.
2. Guy in the blue shirt, stop squeaking your voice.
3. Take time show the scopes glass, reticle, individually, and comparatively. People want to know what they will see looking through that.
Didn’t even finish this video, but I want the youth to succeed, so practice making good, interesting, quality videos.
Im in the market for an LPVO... i am tired of red dots.
My advice as someone who dove head-first into AR's in 2016... buy once, cry once. It's a tired phrase by now, I undrrstand... but doing the math, all the cash i spent experimenting with sub-par shit... had i saved it and bought good shit... I'd be ahead as far as my budget.
Guy on the left was confused on 1st and 2nd focal plane he thought it had to do with the magnifier going 1/1.5/2/ 2.5 etc, other guy recovered well kept on talking 👍🏼
Cheap scopes just lend you to spending 2 to 3 times as much till you get the one you need.
If you want a durable optic and can't save up for a $1800+ LPVO you shouldn't look at anything under that $250 price point.
Vector makes 3 of the scopes you have there. Vector has been under Sig international's interest for decades. The MSR should be at the bottom of anyone's list of budget optics. It's decent enough to to shoot out to 400yds in 6x, but daily cary in a vehicle or if your into practical shooting matches they don't hold up long to abuse.
Monstrom is a range toy class optic that even the Chinese parent manufacturers won't bother to market. It's bad advice for anyone, stay away from Monstrom, Aim, Leapers and budget companies that offer all the features of a high end optic at 1/10th the price. Your getting 1970 cheap .22lr nylon turret technology for that $150 bucks....leave it in the sun for a couple of hours in the western states and see how good it holds zero. Iron sights are really a better option out to 500 meters than a monstrom optic.
Light Optic Works of Japan/Taiwan manufacturers scopes and parts for pretty much everyone. Vortex, Primary Arms, USO, Leupold, Nightforce, Trijicon, EOTech, Nikon/Cabela's and Bushnell....I'm sure I missed a bunch. Burris makes one of the most bullet proof LPVO's under $400, and it's still made mostly in the USA. It's one that should be on anyone's budget list
Currently your best emmiter and retical component's come from Taiwan with a lot of German and Japanese backing. The great Japanese optics people have been loving for years have been using component's machined in Taiwan. Now China owns most of Japan and physically trying to take Taiwan. You don't have to spend $1200 to get into a decent optic, and American owned companies like Swampfox and Arken are putting out some of the best scopes for your dollar if you're on a tight budget.
Check out Joe the Cyclops and the Dark Lord of optics here on TH-cam. They do comparisons threw the optic so you can actually see glass clarity and tracking.
Funny, I got the vortex crossfire BECAUSE it's a 1-4. Took forever to find it but I didn't want more than 4x for the range the ar15 is capable of.
Love the crossfire. Bought it over the strike eagle and would do it again.
You must’ve not tried the Viper PST 1-4x24 Gen 2. They can be found close to the price of the strike Eagle if you look in the right spots
@@cole3078 is it better?
What does lpvo stand for
I’ve discovered something new, cheers for keeping the video on point and spending just the right amount of time explaining each. Good vid guys!
Junk. Get a good Zeiss you will never buy anything elese. That's what happened to me.
No Swampfox?
When children express their opinion, they talk about optics, about weapons, even if they have a written text, it doesn’t look serious to me, it’s not reliable at all🙈
Where’s the Burris RT6 1-6??
I want to like vortex but that optic is about as long as a shoe box
Decent video brining up the optics that are affordable but no show of reticle view, comments of FOV or eye relief or mention of haze/distortion on any of the optics. just mentioned a couple and said yeah these are good budget LPVO's. Could have put a little more effort into explaining the reasoning behind each. This video is only good for doing more research on each.
SupersetCA here on TH-cam has some excellent reviews of optics
The sad thing is the video is only 10 months old and the prices I’ve been finding for at least the sig is up to like 360-400.
Swampfox really should have been included in this video!
I like the Sig and it comes with flip up covers, throw lever, and a mount. Can't beat it.
Good video, thanks for sharing your opinions. 👍
uh oh 3:58. the alphabet mafia ATF is gonna knock at your door now. lol
Turrets , not turnets
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