Phthalo Blues and Greens Compared

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  • @mikemanning8253
    @mikemanning8253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Greetings from Albany, NY. Thank you for taking the time to do these types of videos. They are very informative and useful. Stay safe.

  • @BeckyTregear
    @BeckyTregear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Phthalo blues, turquoises and greens are such happy colours; I always have at least one of them in my palette. I have so many things that have been permanently stained by them! 😂

  • @KimberlyCrick
    @KimberlyCrick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I absolutely love PB16 Phthalo Turquoise, Schmincke's helio is nice, but Holbein has a PB16 that leans a bit more green, and Daniel Smith just added a PB16 that is super intense. I think it's my favorite blue for a primary trio with PV19 and PY150 for florals and foliage. Thanks for the comparison of all these pthalos :)

  • @Donna_G
    @Donna_G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am still using my tube of DS Phthalo Blue. It is not labeled as green shade or red shade. The pigment number is the same as the Phthalo Blue (Green Shade). I use it most often to mix with Hansa Medium Yellow to make a vibrant green which is the same color as our grass on a sunny day. If I want to tone it down a bit, I can mix in a touch of Quin Red.

  • @awatercolourist
    @awatercolourist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks, Teoh, for this video :-). Regarding PB15:4, Maimari Blue has a Phthalo Turquoise made of PB15:4. It is greenish turquoise hue, more green than PB16. I have not used it myself but I have seen samples of it online, I think on Jane Blundell’s website.

  • @SarahAndBoston
    @SarahAndBoston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Teoh, I always learn so much from these color comparison videos. I love the phthalo colors!

  • @appleknocker56
    @appleknocker56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing these videos as in the Pthalo watercolors (with several different kinds) leans green, leans yellow, leans red (but just need certain one) but when do searching it can get confusing quickly and the companies #’s PB15.1,2,3 don’t always add the number behind the PB15 so getting lil tube as love using Pthalo colors but red shade like ultramarine & can add red myself if want to do so! Tyvm!

  • @notsogood_nsg
    @notsogood_nsg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as usual 😁 another phthalo color available out there is Winsor&Newton 's Aqua Green, made of "Palomar Turquoise" (proprietary pigment). It's a dark teal color in masstone that looks turquoise when diluted. One of my favorite colors in my current palette.

  • @DustyMusician
    @DustyMusician 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    manganese blue isn't toxic by itself, but the byproducts made when it's created are! that's why it was discontinued.

  • @PaulaBean
    @PaulaBean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video. For my split primary Daniel Smith palette, I went with the following choices (reflecting their 'essentials' set, if I remember correctly):
    Warm side:
    French Ultramarine - PB29
    Pyrrol Scarlet - PR255
    New gamboge - PY97, PY110
    Cool side:
    Phtalo Blue - PB 15:3
    Quina Rose - PV19
    Hansa Yellow Light - PY3
    I added these two earth colors:
    Natural Sienna - PBr7
    Burnt Umber - BBr7
    I'm still discovering new ways to use these colours! That's one of the nice things of watercolor painting, all this experimentation. I love it!

    • @PaulaBean
      @PaulaBean 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh BTW, I use the Natural Sienna often for skin tones.

    • @PaulaBean
      @PaulaBean 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will substitute French Ultramarine with Phtalo Blue (red shade). I don't like granulation at the moment.

  • @JKxox0
    @JKxox0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    that video was sooo helpfull for me. I love your whole channel, thank you for sharing your passion of watercolors with us!

  • @ss45247
    @ss45247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am new to watercolors. Very informative. Thank you

  • @Cananovella
    @Cananovella 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Out of all the watercolors I paint with, the Blue hues are my favorite. Pink is a close second.

  • @painovoimaton
    @painovoimaton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I quite like some phthalo colours, a blue-shaded phthalo green suits my style well and phthalo blues make for good skies as long as the heavy staining isn't a problem (for lifting clouds, for example)

  • @susanshirley823
    @susanshirley823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Teoh. I enjoy your videos.

  • @berika6
    @berika6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for these videos. I use White Nights phalto colors because of their price. They are also pretty good, I am not very picky when it comes to phalto colors. They are very similar across different brands 💙

  • @Christine_R
    @Christine_R 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Phthalo Blue Red Shade. It's a palette staple for me since I purchased it. I use Phthalo colors a lot lately and with a bit of mixing a Phthalo Blue can look similar to an Ultramarine Blue. But I really prefer the Daniel Smith Phthalo Green over the Schmincke Horadam one. I had some issues with their half pan version too.

  • @wholucy
    @wholucy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such pretty shades 🥺🎨
    I like a lot ultramarine blue but phtalo blues are my favorites!

  • @TsukabuNosoratori2
    @TsukabuNosoratori2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also love mixing the two colors for a wide variety of turquoise/teals. For a bright teal, I'll add a bit of yellow and white. I particularly love Pthalo blue red shade and have it in my main palette. For Pthalo Green I love Pthalo Green Yellow shade. Both have a glow to them that just is sooo pretty to me when I use them in galaxy/nebula paintings. I also got some pigment powder of this from Kremer and made my own stash so I won't have to keep buying tubes.

  • @Temajuki
    @Temajuki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fell in love with Phthalo Blue when I was learning oil paints in class. I have my tube of DS but I havent even made much of a dent in it with how few blue things I paint. Hope I can set aside time after exams to do more watercolour paintings

  • @EmmyMW
    @EmmyMW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for swatching these, Teoh:) I think that DS Manganese Blue Hue and Phtalo Blue (Red Shade) would be lovely to add to the palette coz they look like such great colours for the sky.

  • @jennw6809
    @jennw6809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All your videos are helpful, but this one is especially great. I have been wondering about Schmincke's PB 15:1... to me it looks in between their other two in terms of warmth. Interesting how Schmincke's 15:3 is so different than Daniel Smith's. I recently bought the Schmincke PB 16 Helio Turquoise and it is my favorite shade here on its own. Can't wait to try it more.

  • @PaulaBean
    @PaulaBean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:22 a non-granulating alternative for ultramarine, just what I was looking for! Thanks.

    • @olgahein4384
      @olgahein4384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or you can just use the Ultramarine finest by Schmincke. They just mill the pigments to the point that you can only see the granulation with a microscope. Unless DS is more affordable for you, then that color is a perfect fit.

  • @LeesChannel
    @LeesChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's also PB17, pthalocyanine cyan, which is a nearly perfect hue of cyan, however it is VERY difficult to find, most paint manufacturers have discontinued the usuage of that pigment and reformulated with mixtures....
    but it's still out there, I have a few tubes 🤫

    • @olgahein4384
      @olgahein4384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Schmincke that was replaced with 'Heliocerulian', the PB15:3. Because it's nearly perfect Cyan. The only one even closer is PB15:3 with PW4 (zink oxide), by the name Heliocerulian hue. That's what PB17 would look like, I think. It's not the best mixing color, thanks to the white pigment though.
      Haaah, whenever a grea and useful pigment is discontinued (either by art supply manufacturers or pigment factories etc) it's such a loss. Same story with quinacridone gold.

    • @PaintinHiding
      @PaintinHiding 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so where do you get yours? and what brand still has it? really wanna get it for my friend!

  • @nicholascaldwell6079
    @nicholascaldwell6079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Phthalo blue RS is a little less red and darker at the same saturation as ultramarine blue so it has its own character. It’s almost closer to indanthrone blue. A lot of hobby paint manufacturers use it as the base pigment for painting space marines...

  • @AlexYorim
    @AlexYorim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Phthalo Blue Red Shade. I say it's a gorgeous alternative to Ultramarine.💙
    Also, When I think of it, I think most "Viridians" are Phthalo Green. Not sure if the name Viridian has more appeal to me than Phthalo Green.
    Also, oil painter Bob Ross used Phthalo colors on his paintings.

  • @rebeccapage4411
    @rebeccapage4411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting! I love that Manganese hue.

  • @EstrafaDC
    @EstrafaDC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Teoh! Thank you for the video. You should try out Daniel Smith's Pthalo Turquoise. It's PB16 as well. I've used it and like it -- although after comparison I use Winsor & Newton's Pthalo Turquoise on my palette as I like it just a little better.

    • @appleknocker56
      @appleknocker56 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also like that pigment number in Da Vinci “artist grade” and quality wise see no difference!

  • @jukerdanz
    @jukerdanz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Phthalo blue and use it to mix vibrant greens and also shadow colours.

  • @jonmahashintina
    @jonmahashintina 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The : means what time the paint was made. So PB15:3 was made at 3:03pm. Im 87% sure Im correct on this.

  • @DesGardius-me7gf
    @DesGardius-me7gf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could take a shot for every time Bob Ross has used this color.

  • @dases1982
    @dases1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have The Phthalo blue green shade from Daniel Smit. Please tell me how to make the Phthalo green blue shade by mixing as you mentioned in the video. Thanks you are my Colour Guru!!

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just add Lemon Yellow or Hansa Yellow to Phthalo Blue and you can get a cool green. So Phthalo Green is not really necessary.

    • @dases1982
      @dases1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teohyc Thanks a lot.

  • @WalnutDave
    @WalnutDave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you recommend a few watercolour painters who do realism? even if they use in or gouache thats good too

    • @WalnutDave
      @WalnutDave 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ink or gouache*

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mary Whyte and Jenny Granberry
      www.marywhyte.com/
      th-cam.com/channels/m_k3B0UO4bw2pb8auT_Nbg.html

    • @WalnutDave
      @WalnutDave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks

  • @AzzieSempai
    @AzzieSempai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find that Phthalo green from Schmincke is not so good for glazing, I wish I could use it as a underlying colour, but it always reactivates!

  • @mapeandrews3951
    @mapeandrews3951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although the video is informative it is also very limited since you are only comparing between two brands.