VTOL VR - Weapon systems and how to use them
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we look at the available weapons on AH-94 and how to use each one. I also look at the different tactics to employ the gun, which is the most effective weapon on this aircraft.
I am sorry, I lost my head a few times (literally) as my GoPro decided to stop shooting the video and do some photos and bursts, for no good reason. I salvaged what I could. - เกม
Learning how to play this with my cousin and son. I’m a real pilot and I’ve played a ton of MSFS and some DCS over the years and I’m having more fun with this then I can remember. Simplicity is king. Just wanted to say thanks for some fantastic tutorial videos. You have a real gift for teaching. 👊🏼
Thx man, I really appreciate the comment. As you said, VTOL’s key USP is its simplicity. Just hop in and fly :)
One of the coolest things I discovered is you can lock onto targets with the radar and use the cannon to shoot em. It will actually lock onto the Target and adjust the cannon. Pretty cool!
That’s a great hint, didn’t know that!
Do you mean you can lock onto targets with the radar and shoot them without slaving the TAD, it only slaves the gun?
@@burgertanker7970 This is how I understood ShiitakeTV - I will have to test it myself in the next mission. It does make sense and I wonder if it would work the same for air targets
@@burgertanker7970 I believe u don't need the tads as long as the radar is the SOI. Give it a try!
@@kruger78 yes! 👍
Very well made and clear guide...I managed to watch this while bouncing around in an armored truck and working a few stops between. Understood clearly and even enjoyed watching how smooth your skills are.
Many thanks Harry. That must have been a very bouncy experience 😁 You must be in theatre somewhere?
@@kruger78 Actually I'm just an armed security guard and messenger, nothing fancy. Actual vets have a lot more to worry about on the daily than I probably ever do
@@ScarryHarry93 Nothing routine about a job where you have to carry a weapon sir. Keep doing the good work 👍🏻
in my experience, the ah-94 never really gets to the airspeed in which the m230 will lock unless it's diving. if you're loitering, you can employ the chain gun no problem.
Shoggo, after this video I tested both guns a bit more and found them both speed-locked at around 400 km/hr. You are right, I can reach that speed when travelling greater distances and I would not be expected to be using the gun gimbal.
Good info on the use of weapons. Very helpful. Thanks for that!
Cheers Mike, glad you found it useful.
I've found the AGM-114s are incredibly useful with the ground radar. You can fire them from behind a ridge and they will pop up over it and strike your target.
I believe you mean AGM-145s? They have the ability to lock on after launch (LOAL) and can avoid obstacles in most cases. 114s are laser guided and in my experience, rather useless as you have to keep the target in optical/laser sight until it hits the target. Just make sure to send the memo to the enemies not to shoot you as you are pampering a missile 🙄
@@kruger78 Ah yes, I did mean the 145s, I got them confused lol. I agree, the 114s are kind of useless when the 145 exists.
Great stuff, I've had this game for over a year, and have all the DLC (even the EF-24G) but I'm still a massive noob haha, couldn't fly for the longest time due to health issues but love what I have played and appreciate any videos for us noobs! Thanks!!
Good stuff. I'm working with the modder to perfect the use of a physical flight stick for the Ah94. Lots to go but so far its useful.
Great video!
Very helpful, especiallu GBU and laser guided stuff. Thanks for good vid!
Cheers Tauront, thank you for the feedback 👍🏻
GREAT tutorial!!! Thank you
Another great video. Did you know that you can press the thumbstick to enable auto rotate for the pylon?
Thanks Ed. Someone in the VTOL discord channel told me about the pylons but I haven’t figured it pit yet. Will make sure to try it next time around 👍🏻
I always switch into hover auto pilot for landing. So much easier to make small adjustments to the aircraft in HVR mode.
I would encourage anyone to practice landing without it - it very quickly becomes a second nature and is much faster and infinitely, more fun :)
@@kruger78 eventually. Gotta get the basics down first. This game is a 'minute to learn, lifetime to master' kind of game. :)
@@crooker2 Well said mate 👍🏻
After recently getting into this game the only thing I don't like is the absolutely bonkers indicated speed vs how fast it feels you're flying. They could probably cut the indicated speed in half and it would feel more reasonable.
I have to agree that the speed indicated is way off, you can see this especially when landing with helicopter - I didn’t pay attention to it until you mentioned it. I doesn’t take away from the enjoyment though and at higher altitudes, its imperceptible.
Cool vid! :) How do you keep the helicopter so stable when switching off AP? For me, as soon as I switch off AP, the chopper just rotates/banks/drops with no inputs whatsoever (and no trim). This is the one thing I really struggle with. I get everything lined up, switch off AP then it's a roller coaster for 30 seconds trying to get the damn thing straight again using manual control (Quest 2 tracking controllers).
Hi Wesley, thank you for the comment. I don’t think there is a particular way to do it successfully every time (none that I discovered). I still sometimes experience the same as you described but maybe less often than before. I make sure to grab the right stick and try to centre it as much as possible (observing the input indicator bottom right on the hood) and reset the trim on every axis as this was countering the offset before so it would now be pulling to one side. There should be no need for any trim when hovering. Also, reducing the angle on the rotor blades by dropping the collector a bit, tends not to exaggerate the imbalance as much as when fully engaged. In other words, try an mimic the hover mode before disengaging, if that makes sense 🤔
@@kruger78 Great, thanks. I'll give those ideas I try when I next jump in. Cheers!
I think I read somewhere, that when disabling Auto Hover or Auto Pilot, you can counter the rotation/banking by lowering the collective completely, and raising it again very slowly...
@@LarsZulfoDKJensen Agreed, I found that lowering the collective helps in most situations where you lose control of the heli, which makes sense as you are effectively depowering it. Going from hover to normal flight is also about anticipating what the heli will do once it goes to manual control and countering with your input, mostly yaw control.
Same here. Before i thrn off autopilot i make sure i am slighty high up and not over smth pike a building. Them i disable it and let it spin for like half a sec. This way i can see which way the helicopter spins and autoyaws. Then i counter it. I sort of do it naturally. I am a terrible pilot lol. If its uncontrollable, i will put it back in ap. Raise the altitude and try again. I only turn off ap when i want to go fast. If i try to hocer in 1 spot without ap i just spin lol. Anyways hope it helps. I cant figure out how people do insane tricks and stuff in it lol.
Anyone know where they hid the countermeasures button in this particular vehicle?
LoL, indeed, everyone was at one point looking for it - its on the combat collective, you have to press the trigger as a shift button and then click the upper Y button to release CMs
Also, a lot of people are complaining about head movement, but they must have never really watched VR footage or recorded themselves in VR. The only reason you don't realize how much your head moves constantly, is because you eyes counteract movement and can remain locked on a picture - making you think you are still.
Recording raw VR footage on a square screen that can't gimbal will make you realize quickly that your head is never really that still, especially with an unnatural weight putting you off-balance while in VR
That is very true, VR makes for a very difficult 2D watching. Some tubers have really nailed it with the head stability and I am doing my best but its difficult when I’m actually flying and it doesn’t quite work just to move the eyes around as the FOV is rather limiting. But watching VR, just like playing VR, is not for everyone and with some it does induce nausea 🤷🏻♂️
How do you change HMD to TADS without using front screen button? I assume you do it with your Cyclic controller, but no more than that.
I just click the joystick that normally controls the TADS. By doing that, you select a target or a point on the landscape and you can fine tune with the joystick. I hope this answers your question, let me know if I misunderstood the question and point to a specific second on the video when that happens.
@@kruger78 thank you. That's exactly what I wanted to know.
Do you have any info on the max ranges of the different weapon systems? So far when using the 114s it seems like the in game max range is about half of their real life counterpart from my experience
This is entirely possible. I never compared the range of in-game missiles to their real counterparts and its possible that the developer has reduced both, the range of missiles and the range of enemy radars, probably in order to bring us closer to the action and reduce the map size for better performance. I can only assume that both ranges were reduced proportionally.
Yeah, no, the AMRAAMs have an effective range of about 8 miles, when IRL, or from my experiences in DCS, if you are fast and high enough, your AMRAAMs can reach 40 miles.
I'm curious about the control tip text overlays that display when you grip the stick and throttle. I can't find any way to enable that in game, is it some kind of mod?
Definitely not a mod. Look through the options when in cockpit, I can’t remember exactly where but its definitely there.
Thanks for responding, I love your vtol vids! I enjoy watching them while working and unable to play myself 🙂@@kruger78
Is it a setting or mode that shows the function of each button when you hold the joystick?
Not a mod - built in setting within a game, available only for the heli. Search through the MFD menu whilst in cockpit and you’ll find it. Something like “show key” but can’t remember exactly
@@kruger78 Thank you. I think it'll help me adjust to the helicopter
@@yhkim0966 Oh, it’s a life saver, especially when you’re just starting out. Let me know if you need any more help.
Can you show us the Ballista used in Untargeted mode? They're SUPPOSED to be able to be employed without prior lock, capable of selecting their own targets?! I've never seen anyone use them this way.
Michael, I don’t think Ballistas work that way, at least not in VTOL. The in-game description is a bit misleading and I see why you would think that. You will see in my last video where I used the LOAL functionality, when I forgot to slave the gps point to TADS, the missile did not hit the target even though it was pointed in the close vicinity of the targets. They do automatically lock on to the target locked on by TADS and LOAL simply delays the target lock until the missile has a visual. I also never saw anyone use them as you described but I’m curious, I’ll give it a try with and without TADS just to see what happens.
I really like your vids but they are a bit hard to watch as you move your head a lot. If you could please try not to shake your head so much in your future vids they would be much easier to watch...
Hey Owl, thanks for reminding me again 😉 I switched back to using the VR mirror again so there is less smoothing of the motion. I’ll have to remember and control the head movement, remark is on point.
I was about to write this - I would love some more guides as I have just started playing VTOL again with the introduction of the AH-94, but the head shaking is making it hard to watch :D
@@LarsZulfoDKJensen Point taken, I’ll switch back to the smooth first-person camera, that helps a lot.
Why does the game look so much better in your videos?
I guess you are comparing the VR view with the screen view? If that is the case then its just a matter of OBS capturing the video feed from the graphics output, which comes out with a much better resolution whereas your VR view will be a bit more “meshy”, if I can put it that way 🤔 It will be off course, very much headset dependent. I’m using Rift S and it has some screen door effect but I’m used to it now and barely notice it. But you are right, it does look so much better with this resolution 😱
Oh, yes, I forgot, I also did some image processing in Premiere Pro and added some colour 😉
@@kruger78 Thanks for the quick responses! Just curious if you're running any mods then? The environments seem to look more detailed than they do for me. Less so much a colour/resolution thing and more looks like things are just... more interesting looking in your gameplay. Is this vanilla VTOL and vanilla map?
@@paulgannon3261 No problem buddy, I’m home recovering from back surgery so got lots of time. Good thing is, I can do a bit of VTOL otherwise I’d die of boredom!
To answer your question, I got no mods on and graphics are pretty much default. Never touched them. So regular VTOL out of the box and the map is the stock target practice map from AH-94 quick flight menu. The only thing I can think of is how your graphics are set based on your PC performance. I never fiddled with it at all but most games when you run them first time will set graphics based on benchmark performance. My pc isn’t really top of the crop but it ain’t bad either. I would check that and see if some of the details are lowered to
Improve performance (honestly, never checked the graphics section so no idea if you can do any tweaks. Will check next time I go in and maybe send a screenshot). Also, try the usual fixes, update graphics drivers, reinstall VTOL etc.
@@kruger78 oh god that's tough. My wife fell over 3 days ago and she has broken her arm and shoulder socket and ball so I am head chef and carer. But my old Vive was a pain in Vtol as the base units kept losing track of the collective so I would suddenly plummet. So stopped playing it but just got a Pico 4 which so far seems so much better. Hope the recovery goes well
wait... so how do you have two different camera angles?
The FPV is actually a VR Mirror, Win app that allows you to see VR views and small screen is VTOL’s S-CAM. I just capture both with OBS
@@kruger78 aaah alr thanks man
@@kruger78 Care to share which app? I'm interested in this. Thanks!!!
@@PorkleakerVR mirror is not an external app, it is just a diagnostic .exe that allows you to see what is in the headset even when not in the game. It sits in the Oculus installation folder. Very useful.
Is it possible to reload the AH-94? Flying back to base and reloading armaments?
Dave, yes, as long as the landing site is capable of reloading (can be marked as such in mission editor). I believe the requirement is engines off and rotor almost at standstill, weapons disarmed - you call it as usual by requesting rearm from the ground in the comms menu or by audio command.
@@kruger78 ok. Thanks. I'll have to try that. I was trying a 'magical reload' by simply landing on an "H"... but nothing was happening. I guess magic isn't a thing in VTOL. :)
In the stock missions, is there a way to know if a particular landing site is reload-capable?
I'll play around with it. Thanks for the response!
@@crooker2 In my experience with VTOL, you should be able to reload at any allied airbase, carrier or cruise ship, unless the mission briefing states otherwise (i.e. the stealth mission with F-45 where it states you start off from FARP and you will have no reloading or refuelling). Other times, you could be able to reload from an airbase that you’ve seized and cleared of enemies (i.e. last mission with AV-42C). In stock missions for AH-94, there aren’t many opportunities to reload apart from where you take off. I didn’t try the airport in Sudden Strike but I doubt it would be possible. In on of the steamwork missions, Basra in Iraq, mission developer has set a number of friendly reload points so you go wherever is the closest.
You raise a very good point though - how to know where you can reload? I didn’t find any tbh, once you touch down at helipad, you hear “the ground crew is ready for you” but it would be nice to have a similar feature to Fuel where it would point you to the closest re-load point 👍🏻 or means to ask through the comms.
how do you use the flares, still cant figure that out
Catches most people out. On your combat collective, hold trigger and then press the upper joystick button.
nice vid butt its hard to watch due to your head moving too much..
How to get two different recordings?
One is VR Mirror output, the other VTOL VR output which you control with S-CAM option on your MFD
Hey mate thx for this tuto...im chopper pilot on Dcs..usine trackir+hotas the rhino x-56+rudder pedals from saitek...could u met me know je it could be enable on vtolvr....and secondly = are they any real challenge To have S-300....tor system...pantsir...shilka....tunguska....implementing in that simulation...because when watching ur vidéo i just see no réaction from AI ...so its so much easy To destroy all AI units
Hi Jamila, VTOL VR was developed around the VR, not just the visual representation but the interaction in the cockpit which depends on the VR controllers and virtual hands they create. This is why it doesn’t have any HOTAS support as it would be impractical - unless the controllers in the future could be replaced by haptic gloves. For the time being, there are no plans to introduce HOTAS support but I believe that the external rudder is supported, though I didn’t try it myself.
The way it is designed though is incredible and very intuitive and you do have a feeling of working the actual controls, if you can try it yourself.
Regarding the AI response - this is just a target practice map and enemies do bot fire back. This is so you can practice various weapon systems without any pressure. In any normal mission, AI does react, is organised and will shoot you down if you are not careful.
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Good fkn God. Keep you head still!!!!!!!!??
There is a VR headset on the head and it works by moving your head to see stuff around you. Now, I’m happy to take any feedback, already have on this very topic, if it is delivered in a respectful manner, which yours isn’t.
You do understand the concept of vr?
Shut up. Nobody can keep their head perfectly still, especially not when there's a miniature plant pot strapped to their fucking face.