Melodicas duet Yamah p37D Suzuki M 37C contrasting phrases.
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- When I made my previous comparison video the M-37C was not readily available where I lived. I've since found it to be a superior instrument to the Pro37V2 and it costs less. I contrast it here with the Yamaha p37D. taking turns playing phrases of a traditional song.
The Suzuki is nearer to the screen. The Yamaha is the maroon colored one nearer to me.
The Yamaha sounds darker to me, less like a harmonica more like an accordion. From what you say though, the Suzuki has the edge in playability. Thanks for taking the time to compare.
You're welcome. The Suzuki does have a smoother keyboard but is a little bit less sensitive to the breath than the Yamaha. It can depend on your playing style and whether you have had experience with wind instruments.
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Is it means that it is easier to trigger the sound in Yamaha p37d than suzuki m37c?
@@chuzackieification579 Air pressure the Yamaha is easier. The keyboard is smoother on the Suzuki.
@@phlattgetit thank you!!
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Thank-you very much. I hope it helps people choose.
My conclusion after a long research:
Suzuki: Better build quality, metal body, standard-sized keys, better playability, heavier but with a better case. reasonable price, Says it's Made in Japan and will be shpped from Japan.
Yamaha: To my taste better tone, plastic, Cramped keyboard, easy with air but hard with keys, lighter, solid plastic case. rather expensive. Made in Indonesia. (Still a Japanese brand.)
I just ordered the Suzuki btw.
Btw I ordered the Suzuki.
And for you guys who come here, I found two other sound tests:
But I do think the sound has received effects.
Suzuki M-37C
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Yamaha P-37D
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Купил - Yamaha p37D. Строит хорошо! Звук мне нравится! Но! Когда я поиграл на инструменте,
после хорошо продул инструмент от влаги! Каково же было моё удивление когда я через сутки
открыл инструмент на платах были капельки влаги! За сутки инструмент не просох!
Это я проверял несколько раз, хорошо продувая инструмент после игры! И результат был один-
платы за сутки не высыхали! Переделал продувной клапан! Теперь его можно оставить отрытым после
игры! Не знаю поможет ли это-
- отверстие, где сливается влага - очень маленькое!
В этой связи мне кажется очень хорошо сделан клапан на Suzuki - его можно открутить и оставить открытым
для просушки инструмента! Данный недостаток считаю очень серьёзным, так как инструмент практически
не будет высыхать!
A posição das escaletas atrapalhou, pq a Suzuki estava mais próxima do microfone da câmera. Mas essa ideia de tocar exatamente em sequência foi boa. Só precisa dar um jeito nessa questão do microfone.
Good work Brother. Thanks.
Your welcome, thanks for watching.
Hello. The fact that the Suzuki M-37C is made out of metal,,,and not plastic ,, seems to be a better idea.
Danny Boy. Beautiful song.
Thank-you, I wanted to play something many people would know.
i am leaning towards the suzuki, which do you prefer?
It can sometimes depend on what instruments you are playing with.
They each blend in a different way.
Lately I find the Suzuki's key size and shape to be ever so slightly smoother and more elegant to play. I make less fingering flubs with it.
Suzuki Best melodica
Both seem good, is it me or the yamaha has got better dynamics?
You have a sensitive ear. Yes that is my experience of playing. The Yamaha can go from a whisper to a honk and is very responsive to breath pressure. The Suzuki I have to keep a more full column of air to get it to sound it has less subtlety.
One reason I think is because the Suzuki has a rubber gasket inside. It expands when you blow hard. You have to fill the space and the gasket before the air hits the reeds with more of an even pressure. Sort of like a bagpipe compared to a clarinet.
@@phlattgetit : The older model Suzuki Melodion M-37 has that gasket--a patch of rubber covering a hole in the reed cover, which is in all early model metal tray Melodions (I also have an old model S-32 with the same rubber patch). From what I hear it acts as an air bladder for extra air for those hard-to-produce notes. I have torn down both the older and newer M-37, the newer one doesn't have it.
@@kenshinflyer My S-32 from a few years ago doesn't have it. I tried by-passing it in the M-37 by putting tape over the hole on the inside. It actually effected a couple of notes right above it. The C mostly I believe. It caused it to lose air and sound sour. Interesting I didn't expect that.
@@phlattgetit : I actually NEARLY eliminated that air bladder myself by planning to plug it with duct tape, thinking it's some sort of damage, until I came across a post online stating it actually was put there on purpose. Whew, it would've been a big mistake.
Many thanks for your melodica reviews. Have you tried the latest version (V3) of the Suzuki Pro37? Do you know if there's any difference between the M-37C and M-37C Plus?
You're welcome. No I haven't tried the Suzuki + from what little I've seen there doesn't seem to be much difference. I think Suzuki also has an all wooden melodica now. Yamaha came out with a slightly updated melodica that seemed to be marketed to adults. I haven't tried it either but the reviews on melodicaworld.com were less than exciting.
Which is which? I don't see any label, and I haven't seen either one in person. I can see little differences in shape, but nothing identifying either.
Sorry about that Keith, I will edit the description. The Suzuki is nearer to the screen. The Yamaha is the maroon colored one nearer to me.
Thanks. Based on this, and some other reviews, I'll probably get the Suzuki, but it's a near thing. I'm a pianist looking for something to play at jam sessions when there are lots of other pianists.
Me encantó el final 🤣🤣🤣. Yamaha me gusta más. Gracias
Even the Suzuki Melodion M-37 is mellower than the Yamaha Pianica P-37.
A different timbre definitely.
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what are the polyphonic abilities of those two melodicas? which one would enable me to play more keys at once, and hear them all at once, with equal volume?
I must have missed this. All notes are capable of playing at the same time if you have enough air. equal volume will always be a problem as the larger reeds rob more air from the smaller.
@@phlattgetit thanks for the explanation
@@sexypoetry You are quite welcome. Good luck in your exploration of melodicas.
@@phlattgetit Thanks
Possibilities are few.
Try to play the A low octave with F# next octave or with a Eb and observe the impossible resonance.
Duets of thirds are okay but in 6ths or 5ths dim (a B with an F up) it becomes frustrating.
When the instrument was called "Melodica" it was already know as an instrument just for melodies, not for harmonies.
Since the special phosphorus brass used in the reeds to be humidity resistent it has a flat sound that it doesn't adapt to multiple resonants.
Harmonicas don't have that negative resonance, I don't know why.
Usefull comparison, thank you. What's the name of the song you played?
Thank-You. The song is called "Danny Boy" also known as "Londonderry Air" .
Oh Danny boy! I forgot it... thank you.
Thanks for the comparison! The Suzuki seems to have a more full and mature sound, perhaps mic positioning might have some affect on that?
You're welcome Brandon. What your hearing isn't a result of mic placement. The Suzuki does sound "darker"in person. A part of that is because the Suzuki has a lot more material between the reeds and the outside. However the Suzuki does have a different reed design that I think adds to the sound. I think you have inspired me to do a comparison video without the shells on.
suzuki is the clear winner in the sound of the highest keys ....but
what are the polyphonic abilities of those two melodicas? which one would enable me to play more keys at once, and hear them all at once, with equal volume?
Can you give us an idea of the key/keybed size? I have not been able to find measurements of these two models to compare.
White key on both models are approximately 3 1/2 inches long by 3/4 ths inches wide.
White key on both models are approximately 3 1/2 inches long by 3/4 ths inches wide.
@@phlattgetit Thanks. I have heard from several people that the Yamaha feels more cramped than the Suzuki. I have wondered if this is because the keys are shorter, narrower, or both. (Or perhaps because the gaps between the keys are bigger on one vs. the other.)
@@ZogarSag i'm one of those same people that will tell you the Yamaha feels cramped. I would have sworn the keys were narrower. Now I'm really wondering what it the difference?
@@phlattgetit I picked up a P-37D. I don't have a Suzuki M-37C to compare it to, but the keys are definitely bigger than my old MX-32C. The keybed is only slightly shorter than the three-octave minikeyboards on Yamahas Reface line. However, I have found the same issues with the keys feeling sticky and also notes hesitating to speak when blowing, which is not a problem on my little green Suzuki.
To me, no one of both sounds the same. Suzuki is darker kinda sweet mellow sound, Yamaha is brighter although colorful sound.
Good comparisson, here are the chances to chose a melodica according the type of music.
Now, making chords or combining more than one note simultaneously in a melodica is not really recommendable, few combinations may be acceptable, others horrible.
For the most part I think that's why they used the name melodica.
@@phlattgetit yes, you're absolutely right.
I have been doing several experiments and I found that combinations are really few and so frustrating.
The only way to combine notes is using two melodicas simultaneously.
Honestly I don't get why that acoustic phenomenon happens.
I tried same combinations in the accordion or the harmonium and the sounds never hit each other or create a cacophonic resonance.
Although these disadvantages, I still love the melodica so much, I already have five melodicas and I reserve time for everyone.
Perhaps one day some specialized scientific engineers may find out how to solve that inconvenient, possibly a new material or metal, who knows.
I heard Ena Yoshida with a wooden hand made one, she plays beautiful harmonies and sounds really clear.
Later I heard the wood made Yamaha and the negative resonance still appears like in the plastic one with just a little difference.
The vintage Czechoslovakian Bohema with its individual reeds per key is the unique melodica that respond without any clash but they are very hard to find, only in Europe.
@@oscarcaviglia5640 I think it could have something to do with air pressure changes inside the air chamber from the different sized reeds. Also the larger reeds air-robbing the smaller ones. Maybe developing a melodica where the air comes in at the center of the chamber instead of the low end. Or maybe a design where air comes in evenly at both ends.
Im have bohema. The Best sound @@oscarcaviglia5640
so let say if i can somehow tune one melodica to like lower octave to play with left hand and play other one with my right than i can play like a organ right.
No, you wouldn't be able to realistically lower a free reed an octave. They are made a certain length with a matching space underneath.
Your best choice to play like an organ would be the big Suzuki Hammond 44 which is almost four octaves. Or I think the Suzuki Bass melodica starts where the soprano ends if you wanted to play two of them.
There are also some reed organs powered by an electrical fan motor around. The Hohner Organa or Koestler Harmophone. These are all vintage instruments and may not be in great shape.
@@phlattgetit thanks for information
Definite difference. Yamaha is good for pop music and jazz.I think Suzuki is better for classical and gospel.
Perhaps so, but I've seen quite a few classical performances on the Yamaha. For instance look for Masa Matsuda's performance of the Bach Cello Suite #3. John Batiste favors the Suzuki and he is known as a jazz performer. So it's all good really.
@@phlattgetit thats good to know. I really want to get one and Yamaha seems more readily available right now. Thank you for the information.
@@Iceland874 You're welcome. Most people seem to like the Yamaha. Hopefully it will inspire you.
So which one do you personally like more in terms of sound and in general?
They both are sort of a compromise to each other's weak points. I really prefer the Andes 25 but wish it had more range.
@@phlattgetit Thank you for your reply! But after all, Suzuki Andes 25F has a completely different sound - it squeaks like a bird, only 2 octave and it is more bulky (not so convenient to hold in your hands when playing)! And yet Yamaha or Suzuki?! It seems to me that the Suzuki build quality is more solid.
@@alexseybekmurzin9565 All true. I think I prefer the flute sound to the reed. Suzuki more solid, in some ways I suppose. I wouldn't worry about traveling with either one. The Yamaha has a stronger carrying case.
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I think yamaha is better .what do you think ?
If I could only afford one I'd probably get the Yamaha.
What song is the first one?
It's all "Danny Boy" .
Where does the sound come out on the Suzuki?
That's a good question. Most melodicas are designed for the sound to be diffused through the entire instrument.
The holes you see on most melodicas are sort of an illusion as the actual sounding reed is inside an air-tight box inside the shell. If you watch one of mine or someone else's video where the shell is off you will hear a more open direct sound mostly from the back and underneath.
Ok thanks, I was just trying to consider which harmonica would be better for mic placement.
@@Hey_you_guys In that case either model would record about the same.
Most people look like they point the mic at the top . Over the keyboard. Where more sound comes out.
Thank you very much for the info!