Yepppp, listen to him. Lesson learned, got hit twice this year. When I get the next job, I'll be a job/financial prepper...plan for uncertainty - keep saving, and always looking.
Last 1.6 years, got hit hard twice. Been four months trying to get back to the grind, this time I am nobody's "family". Edit : Patience paid off on August 12th, joined an org that's got people I know since my time in school. It is 18th September now, man feels like a dream to be respected for the work and skills I have.
Something I recommend to people I mentor is to start a job search every 6 months or so and only do it for a few weeks. This is so they can see what the Market is like and can see if they are undervalued by their employers (I mainly mentor junior engineers so they often end up underpaid if they can progrss fast). A general task I think all tech people should be doing is cultivating a personal brand. This doesn't have to be producing content or going to networking events either. But, you must be seen by people to have certain skills and qualities and maintaining relationships with people that are in positions that could be helpful to you (recruiters, hiring managers, technical experts). With both of these, if you end up in a situation where you are out of work, you already have warm leads to hit up for new opportunities and potentially a way to gain traction in the hiring pool. Ultimately, having a skill is meaningless if you cannot market it or find an audience for it.
Hard lesson I learn the hard way this year. Applying for jobs is the only way to know how good your "job liquidity" is. Even if you don't want the job, even if you like your current job, you need to apply to know how fast you can get a new one. Luckly, I had money for this, but I forgot to test the water and study how the market was going to be in the next few years. Bad mistake.
Complete BS. Look for a job WHEN you need it. Why would you search for a job while you already have one. That’s a waste of time, energy, and makes it harder for everyone else too. You’re basically encouraging everyone to waste 45 mins a day to flood the market with applications that just makes it harder for people to get hired. Imagine a Million people applying jobs even when they are all employed and unlikely to even take the interview or accept the job because they’re already busy. Why??? It’s different responding to recruiters for new opportunities. But not cold applying. At will employment doesn’t mean you get hired on Tuesday and are out in 2 weeks. Projects have schedules. Pick companies that have long-term projects.
I respect your opinion, and I could be wrong, however I'd argue that based on the logic stated in the comment, the only time an individual would be allowed to apply is when they're out of a job, or out of work, because that's when they actually need the employment. I argue instead that it's dangerous to wait to entertain other opportunities until the individual is in a state of need. Moreover, I think if most people would be given the option, they would rather apply and interview for jobs when they don't have the desperation of being financially insecure because they're unemployed. Next, if you're taking interviews at all, what's the difference between taking an interview that you generated by applying for a job, and taking an interview that a recruiter set up for you? I could also be wrong on this, but I don't think the majority of people keep applying after they've been hired, so the idea that they're saturating the market with their applications doesn't hold weight as far as I can see. Finally, I'm not advocating taking a job and quitting in two weeks, I'm advocating being proactive in the job search instead of being reactive.
@@TechIndustryAnalysis I understand your point. It makes sense for those facing job uncertainty or PIPs or potential business disruption. But I think your advice is too sensational. Tech (startups and risky ventures) definitely fall into this category where you should be wary of sudden job loss if the business owner’s dreams aren’t panning out. But not all jobs and industries are equal. There’s lots of advice that you should switch jobs every few years because companies are unwilling to match or even keep up with inflation. That’s fine. But it’s beyond ridiculous to be doing interview prep on a regular basis on top of a demanding job. This is very dystopian. Focus on getting an income to support your life. But don’t live to work (or constantly search for work). Search every once in a while when a job disruption is going to occur. But if that’s every few weeks or months, you’re simply choosing bad employers. Are you a contractor by any chance?
Absolutely, the official line should always be "everything's going great", until the day you voluntarily leave. -Because that's the HR playbook being used against you!
Yepppp, listen to him. Lesson learned, got hit twice this year. When I get the next job, I'll be a job/financial prepper...plan for uncertainty - keep saving, and always looking.
Minor set back for major comeback
Last 1.6 years, got hit hard twice. Been four months trying to get back to the grind, this time I am nobody's "family".
Edit : Patience paid off on August 12th, joined an org that's got people I know since my time in school. It is 18th September now, man feels like a dream to be respected for the work and skills I have.
@@atz1091 the next opportunity is right around the corner
Something I recommend to people I mentor is to start a job search every 6 months or so and only do it for a few weeks. This is so they can see what the Market is like and can see if they are undervalued by their employers (I mainly mentor junior engineers so they often end up underpaid if they can progrss fast).
A general task I think all tech people should be doing is cultivating a personal brand. This doesn't have to be producing content or going to networking events either. But, you must be seen by people to have certain skills and qualities and maintaining relationships with people that are in positions that could be helpful to you (recruiters, hiring managers, technical experts).
With both of these, if you end up in a situation where you are out of work, you already have warm leads to hit up for new opportunities and potentially a way to gain traction in the hiring pool. Ultimately, having a skill is meaningless if you cannot market it or find an audience for it.
Spot on
Hard lesson I learn the hard way this year. Applying for jobs is the only way to know how good your "job liquidity" is. Even if you don't want the job, even if you like your current job, you need to apply to know how fast you can get a new one. Luckly, I had money for this, but I forgot to test the water and study how the market was going to be in the next few years. Bad mistake.
Wise statement bro, I've made this same error as well
Complete BS.
Look for a job WHEN you need it.
Why would you search for a job while you already have one. That’s a waste of time, energy, and makes it harder for everyone else too.
You’re basically encouraging everyone to waste 45 mins a day to flood the market with applications that just makes it harder for people to get hired. Imagine a Million people applying jobs even when they are all employed and unlikely to even take the interview or accept the job because they’re already busy. Why???
It’s different responding to recruiters for new opportunities. But not cold applying. At will employment doesn’t mean you get hired on Tuesday and are out in 2 weeks. Projects have schedules. Pick companies that have long-term projects.
I respect your opinion, and I could be wrong, however I'd argue that based on the logic stated in the comment, the only time an individual would be allowed to apply is when they're out of a job, or out of work, because that's when they actually need the employment.
I argue instead that it's dangerous to wait to entertain other opportunities until the individual is in a state of need. Moreover, I think if most people would be given the option, they would rather apply and interview for jobs when they don't have the desperation of being financially insecure because they're unemployed.
Next, if you're taking interviews at all, what's the difference between taking an interview that you generated by applying for a job, and taking an interview that a recruiter set up for you?
I could also be wrong on this, but I don't think the majority of people keep applying after they've been hired, so the idea that they're saturating the market with their applications doesn't hold weight as far as I can see.
Finally, I'm not advocating taking a job and quitting in two weeks, I'm advocating being proactive in the job search instead of being reactive.
@@TechIndustryAnalysis I understand your point. It makes sense for those facing job uncertainty or PIPs or potential business disruption. But I think your advice is too sensational. Tech (startups and risky ventures) definitely fall into this category where you should be wary of sudden job loss if the business owner’s dreams aren’t panning out.
But not all jobs and industries are equal. There’s lots of advice that you should switch jobs every few years because companies are unwilling to match or even keep up with inflation. That’s fine. But it’s beyond ridiculous to be doing interview prep on a regular basis on top of a demanding job.
This is very dystopian. Focus on getting an income to support your life. But don’t live to work (or constantly search for work). Search every once in a while when a job disruption is going to occur. But if that’s every few weeks or months, you’re simply choosing bad employers. Are you a contractor by any chance?
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Keep those eggs in multiple baskets and keep ur cards close to your chest.
Absolutely, the official line should always be "everything's going great", until the day you voluntarily leave. -Because that's the HR playbook being used against you!