he doesn't really call anything pays for a 65mph fleet truck doesn't pick his own loads has to run whatever tires prime says thats not a owner operator
@Carlos-ce7qg Chemical tanker, hazmat tanker, loboys still hauling great. Rates aren't affected. Rookie door swinger. 😆 🤣 😂 that's when you know. You don't know anything about the industry.
It keeps you with a bill which sucks. Like a hamster on a wheel it will never end. A paid off truck could also mean more home time which I think prime doesn’t want. They want to keep those wheels moving.
I agree it should be set in stone. It needs to be an objective standard and as long as that standard is met then prime should let the older trucks stay.
@@carlroop2674 you mean have a load guarantee with the market the way it is ? Driving a new truck and having a second truck producing money front the load board with another driver ?
Grandfathering in the trucks used to be the way it was when I was with Prime up until this new stipulation. The way I see is if they’re going to limit the truck age, let the owner ops who bought their truck through Prime run it for 10 years.
Seems like they need to have a company standard on documented/recorded maintenance , people own/fly airplanes that are over 20 years old still going strong. Imagine if airlines had to buy a new plane every 5 years to keep Boeing in business
If Prime doesn't allow you to purchase your own truck and allow you to bring it into the fleet, red flag #1. If they force you to upgrade a "lease to purchase" truck, red flag #2.
In other words, it’s not written in your contract when you lease to purchase. And in other words, this is a new policy that could change tomorrow and then be re-implemented in the year from now and then change again a year later.
Negative. They say it plain as day on their website under the section for owner operators wanting to bring their truck to prime. This also includes drivers currently at prime as well. The truck can’t be more than 4 years old. On the 5 year it will be under review if they want to keep it in the fleet or not. They don’t hide the fact they do this.
Yeah. It cracks me up when drivers proclaim they have paid off equipment. But their equipment is held together with tape and wire. Not all. But most are. The maintenance cost increases as it ages. The answer to that is refreshing the truck as part of PM. Not when it breaks down.
Yep You’re right!!..I gave up on my 2015 Volvo 780 in this Truck I had around 900,000 miles and the last repaired that I did I spend around $10,900 so I didn’t have another choice to sell it and get as much as I could for the my next Truck so with my saving from the bank and the money that I got from my truck I bought a real nice 2024 Volvo 860 big difference to me
Life DOES NOT care why you think. The only thing that MATTERS is what is in the contract and/or TOS. This policy makes leasing a truck from prime a horrible idea.
I have only seen a few videos from you so far (I literally just found your channel this morning) but I think you are on your 3rd lease (or truck) what did you do with the other 2 trucks you paid off?
Hey man I appreciate you so much for taking the extra time to ask questions before putting on the video.. and in general you're honest but positive approach.. I was wondering if you had clarification on whether this includes or power
u got to think about marketing to customers...they want to tell the customer they have later equipment..the customer like that....also, lot of drivers probably dont keep maintanence up like they should
I'm definitely with you on the objective approach and allowing for Primes POV. Ppl do need to understand they are out for themselves first. Now I'm speaking from ignorance but from over here I think Prime offers one of the best company offers for brand new drivers and also offers a fair overall trade/deal for leasing your first truck. I just think after that ppl should think hard about did you lease to be your own boss or are you a co.oany many in a owner operators clothes. The dictating of some things only goes so far before your just doing as your told like everyone else. I am here cause I am looking to come back to trucking from some time off. I would have gladly worked with prime if I lived inside their hiring area. Idk If I'd be there on my 3rd truck. But maybe
So in that case it’s better to just do a lease program where you have no attachment to the semi’s if you plan on being with prime 5-7 years plus but if your planning on branching out shot for a owner ope program where you end up keeping the truck, sounds like now an days how the trucking market is so unstable its better to own nothing while you reach as close as you can to get to that owner operator money
It shouldn’t be the age it should be the miles. They should tell everyone that once a truck reaches 800k miles it is no longer eligible to run for prime.
Company drivers generally don’t get much choice in the matter. I know when I was a company driver in 2016 there they gave me what was first available at the time my name got to the top of the list for truck assignment. Once that truck is in the chopping block to be sold then you end up with a new truck usually. Leasing is completely different. You get to pick from what they have available from the leasing department when it comes your turn.
@@johnblevins3034 If you have experience go to JB. JB bought BNSF brokerage which makes them number one. Answers why I saw a JB pulling a Prime Inc. can last week.
Don't the older trucks usually go to Wil-Trans or did they change that? I will say. The only company besides Prime ive ever been happy with is Landstar.
Bro prime is a starter company, get your experience and get a truck from a private seller or dealership yourself and lease on with a %100 owner op company as Landstar/mercer/arcbest/booker Hope all is well my brother
Hi Freight.. Even if we had to get rid of our truck after 5 years, we r still ahead of the game. If a driver is driving junk, it should be put out of the fleet. It’s all about MONEY. Stay Safe
Your totally wrong. You should have already your maintenance fee saved up your first year and if nothing happens you can continue using after you pay off your truck and what you make is pure profit. I don't recommend anyone listen to you bad advice
Do you know what you guys should’ve done your due diligence prime has always been a scam anybody that didn’t do the research and least on with prime guess what they deserve
Instability of any type in this market is a deal breaker, even perceived. I 💯 support any driver/team that wants to stay with Prime, leave Prine, go flip burgers, whatever. Forcing you to keep upgrading traps a O/O L/O in perpetual payments. A policy like this will doom a Company to failure over time, this is how you end up like some of the lesser carriers with fancy shiny trucks and very little experience and ability behind the wheel.
if its all about appearance and maintenance on the paid off tractors.... Why dont they just come out with a policy on appearance of the paid off tractor? If the paid off truck is in the shop all the time or not being able to deliver on time then Prime needs to notify the owner to make the decision to sell the tractor and get into a new one. To me it dont seem right to lease a truck with $15K down for three years have it paid off and forced to sell it 2 years later. Can customers tell what year the tractor is when pulling in the gate to deliver?
@fr8sk8r......its not necessarily a benefit for prime or profit for prime.....take prime out of the equation and just goto pete yourself and finance your own and then leaese to prime.....eliminating the benefit you said they have from it
They might not accept outside trucks. You gotta buy it from them so they can keep their contract/ buying power with freightliner, pete..and so on.... so it is beneficial to prime
@@Kep1804 biggest bunch of bs I’ve read all day, as long as the truck met the specs required to be leased on here no reason for them to not allow it, and even if they didn’t just work somewhere else, prime isn’t the only carrier out here🤷🏻♂️
They want drivers to have a newer truck because they can make more money off the payments 💰💰💰The newer the truck the higher the note
This is why you finanace your own truck & run your own authority because you actually call your own shots.
he doesn't really call anything pays for a 65mph fleet truck doesn't pick his own loads has to run whatever tires prime says thats not a owner operator
@@JASONHJEFFERSON That's basically what I just wrote. -__________-
Bro in this market😂😂 who wants their own authority. Fkin rookie
@Carlos-ce7qg Chemical tanker, hazmat tanker, loboys still hauling great. Rates aren't affected. Rookie door swinger. 😆 🤣 😂 that's when you know. You don't know anything about the industry.
It keeps you with a bill which sucks. Like a hamster on a wheel it will never end. A paid off truck could also mean more home time which I think prime doesn’t want. They want to keep those wheels moving.
I'll be honest..... not having a truck payment in this economy is a blessing! Even in the specialty side, not with prime, freight is slow.
A paid off truck, is a trucker with a home life!
I agree it should be set in stone. It needs to be an objective standard and as long as that standard is met then prime should let the older trucks stay.
One more thing providing what a scam Prime is. Keep you in debt to them. Everything is designed to benefit Prime not the driver
You can do a lease and get a new truck and then give the old truck to a driver and dispatch him at side
@@CamioneroblWand continue being a slave to Prime
@@carlroop2674 you mean have a load guarantee with the market the way it is ? Driving a new truck and having a second truck producing money front the load board with another driver ?
@@CamioneroblW I mean not being a sharecropper
@@Thatguy_29 If you doing a Flease you are in debt to them
most customers probably don’t care how new the truck is they just want their freight
Grandfathering in the trucks used to be the way it was when I was with Prime up until this new stipulation. The way I see is if they’re going to limit the truck age, let the owner ops who bought their truck through Prime run it for 10 years.
Seems like they need to have a company standard on documented/recorded maintenance , people own/fly airplanes that are over 20 years old still going strong. Imagine if airlines had to buy a new plane every 5 years to keep Boeing in business
Control control control! THATS ALL CORPORATIONS WANT in every dynamic
If Prime doesn't allow you to purchase your own truck and allow you to bring it into the fleet, red flag #1. If they force you to upgrade a "lease to purchase" truck, red flag #2.
You can buy your own truck just can bring a 2001 year truck to a mega carrier
In other words, it’s not written in your contract when you lease to purchase. And in other words, this is a new policy that could change tomorrow and then be re-implemented in the year from now and then change again a year later.
Negative. They say it plain as day on their website under the section for owner operators wanting to bring their truck to prime. This also includes drivers currently at prime as well. The truck can’t be more than 4 years old. On the 5 year it will be under review if they want to keep it in the fleet or not. They don’t hide the fact they do this.
Thanks for info, the video claimed otherwise. @@Shivris
Yeah. It cracks me up when drivers proclaim they have paid off equipment. But their equipment is held together with tape and wire.
Not all. But most are. The maintenance cost increases as it ages. The answer to that is refreshing the truck as part of PM. Not when it breaks down.
Yep You’re right!!..I gave up on my 2015 Volvo 780 in this Truck I had around 900,000 miles and the last repaired that I did I spend around $10,900 so I didn’t have another choice to sell it and get as much as I could for the my next Truck so with my saving from the bank and the money that I got from my truck I bought a real nice 2024 Volvo 860 big difference to me
Life DOES NOT care why you think. The only thing that MATTERS is what is in the contract and/or TOS. This policy makes leasing a truck from prime a horrible idea.
Not sure about less breakdowns on newer equipment. My 2017 spent far less time at the dealership for electronic breakdowns.
I have only seen a few videos from you so far (I literally just found your channel this morning) but I think you are on your 3rd lease (or truck) what did you do with the other 2 trucks you paid off?
How many of the older trucks do ya see broken down theres more newer trucks that brake down more
One point you’re missing is you can keep it longer if you get your own authority. That rule is just if you are running under their numbers.
Mine is a 2017 looks as good as it did when I bought it and was told next December is it and I stay up on all my maintenance
If you get your own authority and do the power only program with prime there isnt any truck age rule. Food for thought...
Hey man I appreciate you so much for taking the extra time to ask questions before putting on the video.. and in general you're honest but positive approach.. I was wondering if you had clarification on whether this includes or power
u got to think about marketing to customers...they want to tell the customer they have later equipment..the customer like that....also, lot of drivers probably dont keep maintanence up like they should
I'm definitely with you on the objective approach and allowing for Primes POV. Ppl do need to understand they are out for themselves first. Now I'm speaking from ignorance but from over here I think Prime offers one of the best company offers for brand new drivers and also offers a fair overall trade/deal for leasing your first truck. I just think after that ppl should think hard about did you lease to be your own boss or are you a co.oany many in a owner operators clothes. The dictating of some things only goes so far before your just doing as your told like everyone else. I am here cause I am looking to come back to trucking from some time off. I would have gladly worked with prime if I lived inside their hiring area. Idk If I'd be there on my 3rd truck. But maybe
Lol long winded way of say A+ job mate
So in that case it’s better to just do a lease program where you have no attachment to the semi’s if you plan on being with prime 5-7 years plus but if your planning on branching out shot for a owner ope program where you end up keeping the truck, sounds like now an days how the trucking market is so unstable its better to own nothing while you reach as close as you can to get to that owner operator money
It shouldn’t be the age it should be the miles. They should tell everyone that once a truck reaches 800k miles it is no longer eligible to run for prime.
Can company drivers order new trucks or do they get the less driven ones?
Company drivers generally don’t get much choice in the matter. I know when I was a company driver in 2016 there they gave me what was first available at the time my name got to the top of the list for truck assignment. Once that truck is in the chopping block to be sold then you end up with a new truck usually. Leasing is completely different. You get to pick from what they have available from the leasing department when it comes your turn.
I was just asking that's all I have my things going in my mind right now either going to prime or another company
@@johnblevins3034 If you have experience go to JB. JB bought BNSF brokerage which makes them number one. Answers why I saw a JB pulling a Prime Inc. can last week.
really this is nothing new most fleets want 5 years or newer. I think it will depend like you said how the trucks look and if maint. has been kept up.
Don't the older trucks usually go to Wil-Trans or did they change that? I will say. The only company besides Prime ive ever been happy with is Landstar.
PRIME INC… Please. Remember. I. Mortgaged. Everything. I. Need. Cash.
They H8 us Cuz They Ain’tUS Episode #1
Bro prime is a starter company, get your experience and get a truck from a private seller or dealership yourself and lease on with a %100 owner op company as Landstar/mercer/arcbest/booker
Hope all is well my brother
🥕 on a stick. Save money get a used truck and own it never lease from company.
A trade in at least
No one she lease a truck from a mega carrier! just drive their truck for free duuuh!!!
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Hi Freight.. Even if we had to get rid of our truck after 5 years, we r still ahead of the game. If a driver is driving junk, it should be put out of the fleet. It’s all about MONEY. Stay Safe
Well then I suggest nobody taking an engine that ain't a detroit then
well take your truck some where else like flatbed
Prime owner op is clearly a scam, why anyone would put themselves in the lions mouth is beyond me.
Your totally wrong. You should have already your maintenance fee saved up your first year and if nothing happens you can continue using after you pay off your truck and what you make is pure profit. I don't recommend anyone listen to you bad advice
They H8 us Cuz They Ain’tUS Episode #1
Do you know what you guys should’ve done your due diligence prime has always been a scam anybody that didn’t do the research and least on with prime guess what they deserve
Terrible 🤦🏽
Instability of any type in this market is a deal breaker, even perceived. I 💯 support any driver/team that wants to stay with Prime, leave Prine, go flip burgers, whatever. Forcing you to keep upgrading traps a O/O L/O in perpetual payments. A policy like this will doom a Company to failure over time, this is how you end up like some of the lesser carriers with fancy shiny trucks and very little experience and ability behind the wheel.
if its all about appearance and maintenance on the paid off tractors.... Why dont they just come out with a policy on appearance of the paid off tractor? If the paid off truck is in the shop all the time or not being able to deliver on time then Prime needs to notify the owner to make the decision to sell the tractor and get into a new one. To me it dont seem right to lease a truck with $15K down for three years have it paid off and forced to sell it 2 years later. Can customers tell what year the tractor is when pulling in the gate to deliver?
@fr8sk8r......its not necessarily a benefit for prime or profit for prime.....take prime out of the equation and just goto pete yourself and finance your own and then leaese to prime.....eliminating the benefit you said they have from it
They might not accept outside trucks. You gotta buy it from them so they can keep their contract/ buying power with freightliner, pete..and so on.... so it is beneficial to prime
@@Kep1804 biggest bunch of bs I’ve read all day, as long as the truck met the specs required to be leased on here no reason for them to not allow it, and even if they didn’t just work somewhere else, prime isn’t the only carrier out here🤷🏻♂️