You must make a video of it in operation with the final output product. BTW. I is great seeing you assist others in their endeavors first hand. You and your love fr others and teaching make this a very special channel.
I've watched your vids for YEARS now - and I hadn't the faintest idea that you had a brother - let alone one that had a photography channel on TH-cam 😂
Rob,, I noted that you have progressed to being able to weld with the full length of rod, single-handed😊 it's difficult to steadily control the arc at the tip of a long wobbly rod but you've gained skill with practice.
Nice press. I have a similar press that I was lucky enough to buy 2nd hand a few years ago but I was preparing to build one prior to that. The fun part was moving it as they're a tad heavy as I am shortly about to rediscover. Good luck :)
The profit markup on things these days is atrocious really. It goes to show the greed that this world revolves around. It's great to see people like you rehabilitating others to share freely with others so that they won't have to be stuck in the money wheel we revolve around.
You are making a false judgment out of ignorance. The mark up may seem exorbitant, but you don't know what the actual manufacturing cost is. Rob was able to build it for the cost of his time, but Rob did not tell us how long it actually took him to build the thing. In addition, we do not know how long it took to manufacture all the parts for the press. We do not know what the pay is for the employees that manufacture those presses. We do not know what the market will bear. The so called markup may be necessary because people won't buy the press at a lower price. Yeah, believe it or not; having too low of a price on a product can hinder you sales of said product, even when the product is the higher quality, and the manufacturer knows that their is no need for the higher price to stay in business. When you have a product that you can price at $20 but won't sell at $20, but will sell at $50; do you keep your price at $20 dollars and let your kids go hungry; or do you raise the price to $50 dollars and feed your family? The only thing you can do when the market does weird stuff like this is let the market have it's way and earn the extra profit. If you don't want the extra profit, then give it to a charity that actually does feed and cloth the poor in your country, or give your employees a raise.
@@scotttovey i really don't believe in the 'whatever the market will bear' mantra applied to all things irrespective of however essential they are to serving people's needs (food, housing, child care etc.) - but for more luxury items it's necessary to charge the people who can afford it because it's an equation of recycling capital to grow in the economy in relation to the value of of each working person's time - trading should be done to essentially lower the cost (but that cost is much lower for thrifty people like Rob and Dave who are willing to put their minds to work and invest their time for great results like this press :D
The other thing is volume of sales. It's not an item that everyone needs. For a manufacturer to actually have a business making these, maybe they would only sell a couple each month, and a few £k is not exorbitant to make it worthwhile to even produce it and cover overheads (supplies, factory, payroll & taxes, insurance, etc) that the backyarder doesn't have.
Fantastic lateral thinking and DIY workaround on the rollers but are the "agricultural" tolerances good enough? The printing might require very accurate spacing to ensure proper, even pressure on the paper to transfer the image. Not that it would be a problem to take the conveyor roller to an Engineering workshop and have it trued up on a lathe to within a few thou. Still way cheaper than buying the press!
just had a look and the guy twirling the bit in the vice looks like the guy on that last posted video of the above link, so I am guessing I found him :)
You should have included a link to your brother's YT Channel. Nobody will go and look for it. Clicking it is much easier. I always assume that people are lazy. ;-)
When you said your bro came to you for 'welding' expertise, I can't remember the last time I laughed so much. But don't mind me, keep at it; just don't do anything structural yet. no offence meant. ;-) nice job on the press. 10/10.
@@ThinkingandTinkering angle-grinder, lol ;-) don't misunderstand me, i'm not criticising 'sparrow-poop' appearance, that'll improve as you go. grinding for appearance is way down the list of welding 'fit for purpose'. keep at it, but please do a short course with someone who will explain 'inclusions/penetration/compatibility/heat-zones/thermal-cracking/under-cutting (those last two can be a bitch)' because they can really bite your arse later/unexpectedly. once your welding skill/understanding kicks in you'll not need to grind anything. a good bit of single-pass welding is really satisfying. thanks for sharing. presently i'm interested in 'peltier effect' electrical generation, using/extracting heat stored in solar heated water tanks. do you have any insights or diy ideas? ta.
I've done some printing and I noticed a Heidelberg Windmill printing press in an earlier video. Is that your brothers or were you going to use it to print some conductive ink project?
Pretty sure it would cost a small fortune in the US to get the parts cut for you. Especially for a good job from a decent shop. Not to mention the price of the steel itself. But its cool. But you'd probably pay as much as to get a preassembled one here, unless you know a shop you can get a good deal with. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.
@@ThinkingandTinkering maybe, but to get an accurate assessment you need details. And I dont have a project in mind at the moment. I am however going from past experience. Most of the projects I've priced out, before the inflationary costs kicked in lately, would have cost just as much to get the shop time, as to just buy the projects already made. Can't Imagine its any cheaper now. Could be wrong, but.. there ya go.
I wonder if you have considered making an aluminum extruder system, as I think the most challenging bit to be made is your die to squeeze the cold pressed aluminum through, and maybe the thing needs to be a bit complex if you are doing what I am wanting to do, making T-slot like made by 80/20 even with out a center hole, lol but still seems like you are not far from it at this, XD
ooh, extruded aluminiyum. stupendous pressure needed for a cold press. the 'die' is only part of the problem. good luck with it, but be safe, those things can be lethal.
If I hadn't watched you build it. I'd say it looks like a bought one. I love the ingenuity with the lathe and the castors.
wow - that is praise indeed mate - cheers
@@ThinkingandTinkering reminds me of the best praise you can give a FX guy on a movie, "I didn't know there were any FX in that movie."
What are brothers for,eh? Helping each other out? Big thumbs up!
Amazing build! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you like it!
its awesome!
You must make a video of it in operation with the final output product. BTW. I is great seeing you assist others in their endeavors first hand. You and your love fr others and teaching make this a very special channel.
I am sure Dave will be using it and will likely post a vid on his channel mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering I like it!
Nice. reminds me of a green Graphene process that uses 3 rollers some honey and graphite.
Rob, that's really nice helping your brother like this! Be sure he posts a video of him priting on the press. I'd like 50s and 100s please! lol
I've watched your vids for YEARS now - and I hadn't the faintest idea that you had a brother - let alone one that had a photography channel on TH-cam 😂
I guess I never thought to mention it before - cheers mate
I love watching you creating, keep up the good work bro
Glad you enjoy it! - cheers mate
Great video! Many thanks for the help with this, It will be fully assembled here in my workshop tomorrow
Dave
Really cool Robert!
cheers mate
Really good build and how smooth that thing is
Rob,, I noted that you have progressed to being able to weld with the full length of rod, single-handed😊 it's difficult to steadily control the arc at the tip of a long wobbly rod but you've gained skill with practice.
he's slowly getting the idea. ;-) welding is just as much an art as a science. some have it, some don't.
I agree mate everyday I get a bit better - practice practice practice - cheers
Yes, I go by sound and his welding is sounding much better. Nice sizzle.
Truly amazing, super cheap for the average DIY guy
for sure mate -opens up doors I think
Impressive!
cheers mate
Nice bit of lateral thinking with the resizing of the roller shaft.
cheers mate
Nice press. I have a similar press that I was lucky enough to buy 2nd hand a few years ago but I was preparing to build one prior to that. The fun part was moving it as they're a tad heavy as I am shortly about to rediscover. Good luck :)
lol - yes they are lol - master of understatement love it
The profit markup on things these days is atrocious really. It goes to show the greed that this world revolves around. It's great to see people like you rehabilitating others to share freely with others so that they won't have to be stuck in the money wheel we revolve around.
You are making a false judgment out of ignorance.
The mark up may seem exorbitant, but you don't know what the actual manufacturing cost is.
Rob was able to build it for the cost of his time, but Rob did not tell us how long it actually took him to build the thing.
In addition, we do not know how long it took to manufacture all the parts for the press.
We do not know what the pay is for the employees that manufacture those presses.
We do not know what the market will bear.
The so called markup may be necessary because people won't buy the press at a lower price. Yeah, believe it or not; having too low of a price on a product can hinder you sales of said product, even when the product is the higher quality, and the manufacturer knows that their is no need for the higher price to stay in business.
When you have a product that you can price at $20 but won't sell at $20, but will sell at $50; do you keep your price at $20 dollars and let your kids go hungry; or do you raise the price to $50 dollars and feed your family?
The only thing you can do when the market does weird stuff like this is let the market have it's way and earn the extra profit. If you don't want the extra profit, then give it to a charity that actually does feed and cloth the poor in your country, or give your employees a raise.
@@scotttovey i really don't believe in the 'whatever the market will bear' mantra applied to all things irrespective of however essential they are to serving people's needs (food, housing, child care etc.) - but for more luxury items it's necessary to charge the people who can afford it because it's an equation of recycling capital to grow in the economy in relation to the value of of each working person's time - trading should be done to essentially lower the cost (but that cost is much lower for thrifty people like Rob and Dave who are willing to put their minds to work and invest their time for great results like this press :D
The other thing is volume of sales. It's not an item that everyone needs. For a manufacturer to actually have a business making these, maybe they would only sell a couple each month, and a few £k is not exorbitant to make it worthwhile to even produce it and cover overheads (supplies, factory, payroll & taxes, insurance, etc) that the backyarder doesn't have.
@@nil5221
Valid points. 😎👍
they are pretty expensive things
it looks nice rob i like your lathe also i have done things like that
if it works mate lol
Your brother high jack you. lol Love it hi Dave.
my brother really is an awesome guy
Nice.
Fantastic lateral thinking and DIY workaround on the rollers but are the "agricultural" tolerances good enough? The printing might require very accurate spacing to ensure proper, even pressure on the paper to transfer the image. Not that it would be a problem to take the conveyor roller to an Engineering workshop and have it trued up on a lathe to within a few thou. Still way cheaper than buying the press!
check out the separate vid I did on building this little jig mate - the tolerance are actually pretty awesome - I true up flywheels the same way
👍👍👍
get Dave Etch Pressing a simple A4 battery stack, hAl 'you *can* do that Dave' ^_~
lol
Can you put in a link for Dave's site? Thanks for the upload
dave smith photography
just had a look and the guy twirling the bit in the vice looks like the guy on that last posted video of the above link, so I am guessing I found him :)
th-cam.com/channels/EOJ-08wqmVuTAsiWlOgzpw.html there you go mate - I also added it to the description bar
I believe I’ve spoken to Dave!
Many, many years ago, I worked for BikiniLists and later FileFx.
Shucks, I misread the title & clicked on this because I thought it was plans to make an Etch-a- *Sketch* !.. 😉
haha i think he has actually done this if i'm not mistaken? might have imagined it though
lol - curses!
This is amazing thank you. Is there a way to get the design file?
Hahaha I'm sure you're bro will enjoy it 👍
I hope so too
Where do you get the rollers?
You should have included a link to your brother's YT Channel. Nobody will go and look for it. Clicking it is much easier. I always assume that people are lazy. ;-)
th-cam.com/channels/EOJ-08wqmVuTAsiWlOgzpw.html lol
Where there's a Rob, there's a way.
lol - awesome - cheers mate
disassemble and paint?
When you said your bro came to you for 'welding' expertise, I can't remember the last time I laughed so much. But don't mind me, keep at it; just don't do anything structural yet. no offence meant. ;-)
nice job on the press. 10/10.
none taken mate - I am by no means an expert but I do have an angle grinder lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering angle-grinder, lol ;-)
don't misunderstand me, i'm not criticising 'sparrow-poop' appearance, that'll improve as you go. grinding for appearance is way down the list of welding 'fit for purpose'. keep at it, but please do a short course with someone who will explain 'inclusions/penetration/compatibility/heat-zones/thermal-cracking/under-cutting (those last two can be a bitch)' because they can really bite your arse later/unexpectedly.
once your welding skill/understanding kicks in you'll not need to grind anything. a good bit of single-pass welding is really satisfying.
thanks for sharing.
presently i'm interested in 'peltier effect' electrical generation, using/extracting heat stored in solar heated water tanks. do you have any insights or diy ideas? ta.
I've done some printing and I noticed a Heidelberg Windmill printing press in an earlier video. Is that your brothers or were you going to use it to print some conductive ink project?
Wait a minute! Rob putting on goggles 6:48 ??? What happened to the safety squints?
ahh my brother is here and I am showing off lol
Pretty sure it would cost a small fortune in the US to get the parts cut for you. Especially for a good job from a decent shop. Not to mention the price of the steel itself. But its cool. But you'd probably pay as much as to get a preassembled one here, unless you know a shop you can get a good deal with. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.
might be worth asking rather than assuming mate?
@@ThinkingandTinkering maybe, but to get an accurate assessment you need details. And I dont have a project in mind at the moment. I am however going from past experience. Most of the projects I've priced out, before the inflationary costs kicked in lately, would have cost just as much to get the shop time, as to just buy the projects already made. Can't Imagine its any cheaper now. Could be wrong, but.. there ya go.
I wonder if you have considered making an aluminum extruder system, as I think the most challenging bit to be made is your die to squeeze the cold pressed aluminum through, and maybe the thing needs to be a bit complex if you are doing what I am wanting to do, making T-slot like made by 80/20 even with out a center hole, lol but still seems like you are not far from it at this, XD
I haven't considered it - until now lol - I'll give that some thought mate - cheers
ooh, extruded aluminiyum. stupendous pressure needed for a cold press. the 'die' is only part of the problem. good luck with it, but be safe, those things can be lethal.
Not far off a 3roll mill for carbon !
not far at all - nice one mate
Rob, you didn't manage to name your brothers' TH-cam site, -did you? What kind of brother are you?!
dave smith photography
lol - a mean and selfish one clearly lol - I just add him to my description section and th-cam.com/channels/EOJ-08wqmVuTAsiWlOgzpw.html here he is
Hi,
May I know your brother youtube channel ?
th-cam.com/channels/EOJ-08wqmVuTAsiWlOgzpw.html
Im press ive
lol - saw what you did there mate lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering 😁