If you want suspension like what I've got on the S2K, Evo, and all of the rest of my cars, Fortune Auto is offering 5% on a bunch of their models with the code GEARS, along with free shipping with the code FREESHIP. They want to do something for our fans, and we're huge fans of them, so if you want to save like $200 on a set of 510s, hit them up!
for the idle control/compensation for the A/C , you can get the old school diaphragms (the ones that are used with carburetors) that works with engine vacuum, to pull a little bit the throttle lever (they are adjustable)
@@falkor3865 they don't need a lot of vacuum, and during idle is where most of the vacuum occurs I mean is worth trying for an easy fix. They use a little bypass solenoid to activate the diaphragm only when the ac is on, so you can control it with the haltech
7:14 depending on how many vacuum ports you have on your ITB's you can run a line from each throttle body into a collector and then an old-school bleeder style Idle air control valve which almost all stand-alone ECU's support. It basically creates a controlled vacuum leak to speed up or slow engine idle (also good for de-acceleration and popping conditions)
I actually did this with a street driven ITB motor. It worked great. BTW you can also get your MAP signal and brake booster vacuum from the vacuum collector.
@@michaelblacktree Thats a good point too, you can use a separate vacuum collector for your MAP which helps calm down some of the vacuum reference flutter you see on ITB's + aggressive cams. Helps to get a steady reading as each Throttle body pulses its intake cycle. (helps for daily driven ITB's)
I love watching your videos with Ronnie building engines. The older I get the more I appreciate my stock low RPM torque, K24 grocery getter. Just the thing for surprising the German sports cars at the stop lights. Watching Ronnie doing one-stop shop builds brings a smile to face every time. Great video!
I have an f20c in my Corolla, It revs to 10,600, and makes 192kw atw (257hp). Currently has 110,000km's on the engine and still going strong. I run ITB's. 145mm trumpets in an inclosed box, with a 4.5" feed to an airbox and a 5" feed to the front bar. It runs 13.2:1 comp, forged internals, 1mm oversized valves and custom exhaust manifold into a 3.5" exhaust, dropping down to a 3" rear and 3" straight through muffler. Very quick little car, weighing in at 1050kg. Timing well is all you need for idle, i can jump off the clutch at the lights with no throttle and the car will idle up and drive.
amazing. love to see all the work going into such a project. not the normalized b roll builds. love the twice a week schedule too, i used to watch older longer videos in 2 sessions!
EFI hardware sells a device that will let you convert the ITBs to dbw activation. It's really nice. A few people use it on the BEAMS 3SGE engine (formula 3). Driftworks used it on their Lamborghini.
If you guys put a vacuum port on each intake runner, and run a vacuum hose into a common vacuum manifold, you can put an IAC valve on that vacuum manifold to do fine idle control and AC idle boost. Its also a good place to put a MAP sensor. I have typically seen IAT sensor strapped in front of one of the trumpets, probably about the best you can do.
I learned about ITBs a few months ago, and now I am really really excited to see how this is going to drive, to live with, etc. One of the most elegant modifications one can do to a car, in my opinion.
If I may make a suggestion, ITBs can still be housed in an airbox/intake manifold with a big air intake tube. It's not gonna restrict the air flow, it may even streamline it. That's how the E46 M3 CSL gets its air intake. Trust me, I'm a mechanical engineering specializing in fluid and thermal sciences.
Idle control with ITBs is do-able, if your ECU can support an old school ICV. Drill a port in each intake runner, and run them to a vacuum manifold. Then you can attach an ICV to the vacuum manifold. It's also a convenient place for your MAP sensor and brake vacuum line. I had to do that with a street driven ITB motor, ironically.
I’m 100% all here for replacing the bushings. It’s a street car. Make it comfortable and exactly how you want it to feel you already spend enough time in track cars make a car you’ll enjoy
Yeah those sphericals will get a bit harsh if you just want a fun street cruiser. If/when you do swap back to rubber I'd recommend origin fab offset upper bushings for front to help get more camber and keep a spherical bushing in the front compliance bushing spot (the big inner one). It's common for the Oem and aftermarket rubber ones to fail after a bit
Should build an air box for the ITB's especially sense it will be street driven. It wont be as cool when you open your hood, but it will allow you to get cold air from out of the engine bay. But i'm sure you know this already.
could drill out the runner behind the throttle blades and install a IAC valve in each runner. then program the ECU to operate the duty cycle to maintain the desire rpm, option b drill and plumb a 1/2 line between all the ITBS and connect a single IAC valve to the end of the line
Love the build lads, the s2000 is iconic the only thing that gets me is you had the engine out of the car, why didn't you get the engine bay sprayed. All those excellent new shiny parts and a tired rusty-looking engine bay.
People in the miata community just hook up the iacv to a vacuum collector block. You can pretty easily make a blanking plate with fittings in it to connect up the iacv to the block.
you can use a stock IACV!, just create a vacuum block/ manifold running to all 4 runners post throttle bodies and mount the iacv port to that, there are also remote iacv plates you could use...
I LOVE those brackets on the coil overs. All companies should do that. I hate using the cheap tool they give you that ends up coming off and making you hit your hand really hard somewhere. Also OEM fuel pump for E85? I thought you needed a special pump that won’t breakdown and have the correct vanes for the ethanol?
If you really want to run idle control there are multiple ways to do it. I run the Toda ISCV kit on my S2000 with ITBs. You'll need to give it a vacuum source, but it works great.
Can I hire this genius of a man to work on my accord genuinely I would sell my kidneys to have him work on my car he has so much knowledge and expertise.
Tuning 10k RPM is going to be a bit of a mission I expect. At that many revs your exhaust manifold is going to make a big impact on its power due to all the exhaust pulses.
I think we can all agree, this car must present a serious level of personal attachment as this car is a pure basket case. But I am sure it will be nice when he is finished.
@@HeyItsRyuY Yeah I commented as soon as I opened the video :P Also this is without a full exhaust system etc.; I am looking forward to sound w/ a full system
Instead of killing the battery cranking it over and over again trying to get sync, pull the plugs out so there's no compression. No reason to have them in when you're not trying to start it and just troubleshooting trigger issues. Anywho, looking forward to the next episode.
Something seems off. VTC is reporting that you are getting cam advance I am sure.. I wonder if there is something faulty with the VTC sensor. It falls off after 8K, I wonder if it is holding your pre-vtec advance command and sticking rather than dialing back as RPM builds. 3.2s, added compression, and itbs should carry/peak well into the 9s. If it is still falling off after 8, once get the 4-1 header on it and on a 3 inch + exhaust, check to make sure that your VTC values through the sweep are hitting targets. If so, test the voltage on that sensor just to make sure it is operating properly through the rpm sweep.
Why didn’t you have the intake set up for their IAC system? Also, it’s semantics, but it’s an individual runner system and not ITB’s. But Kinsler definitely does offer IAC for their electronic injection IR manifolds.
For AC and cold idle up control, I've seen an idea floating around where a solenoid, probably very similar to a boost control solenoid, is connected between the vacuum distribution block and open filtered air. When the ECU requests more air for idle, it can open the solenoid or increase it's duty cycle, increasing the engine idle by a controlled vacuum leak. Seeing that you're running a Haltech ECU, I don't see why it can't be done for your S2K.
Does K20 have a balance shaft? If you delete the balance shaft is it possible to balance the engine up to 10k? Or does it have a shaft and you keep it? I have a Mazda B2600i and I'm considering deleting the balance shaft. It's a 2.6L I4. I'm installing an Eaton M62 supercharger on it. Should be fun. Toyota Rear axle with Toyota Supra LSD.
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If you want suspension like what I've got on the S2K, Evo, and all of the rest of my cars, Fortune Auto is offering 5% on a bunch of their models with the code GEARS, along with free shipping with the code FREESHIP. They want to do something for our fans, and we're huge fans of them, so if you want to save like $200 on a set of 510s, hit them up!
Too bad fortune auto doesn't make a coilover for the AW11 MR2 or I might.
Sucks they don’t ship to Singapore
Nice job🔥💪👍💯
Damn just got some a month ago 😂
@@seansmile i have eg turbo swap H22a7
I'm always bummed when the episode is over. Appreciate the longer ones.
Especially when the dyno is next
The fact that Jackie had one off rally suspension for the S10k made me laugh
Sorry😅
@@JackieDing86 no I think it's really cool that you could get one off custom suspension for the car
Jackie has me dying 😂😂😂
I know they're probably sponsored for this build by fortune auto but I wish he'd left the rally suspension on. I'm glad Jackie got them back though
I hope they bring back more Jackie Ding content to the channel.
I love the shot of the fuel line coming up into the engine bay at 10:42.
Amazing work
Don't know why, reminds me of The Thing.
Hmmm... that remind me of some Japanese cartoon
for the idle control/compensation for the A/C , you can get the old school diaphragms (the ones that are used with carburetors) that works with engine vacuum, to pull a little bit the throttle lever (they are adjustable)
It's don't have a lot of manifold vacuum; could run an external canister
@@falkor3865 they don't need a lot of vacuum, and during idle is where most of the vacuum occurs
I mean is worth trying for an easy fix.
They use a little bypass solenoid to activate the diaphragm only when the ac is on, so you can control it with the haltech
Or just use a modern ecu with a stepper motor
@@ricardocasalkamu also need the canister if u want to run power brakes
@@nedyahyakcama 20v 4age iac could be retrofitted
He had me at "and we're at Starbucks", amazing.
The engine is lookin fantastic too! Great stuff!
7:14 depending on how many vacuum ports you have on your ITB's you can run a line from each throttle body into a collector and then an old-school bleeder style Idle air control valve which almost all stand-alone ECU's support. It basically creates a controlled vacuum leak to speed up or slow engine idle (also good for de-acceleration and popping conditions)
I actually did this with a street driven ITB motor. It worked great. BTW you can also get your MAP signal and brake booster vacuum from the vacuum collector.
@@michaelblacktree Thats a good point too, you can use a separate vacuum collector for your MAP which helps calm down some of the vacuum reference flutter you see on ITB's + aggressive cams. Helps to get a steady reading as each Throttle body pulses its intake cycle. (helps for daily driven ITB's)
Yeah it smooths out the pressure pulses. But it's still responsive enough to give good readings.
I know a lotta guys do this with dcoe carbs too. Granted those setups don't really need vacuum advance, but I've heard it helps
Was about to go to sleep then I saw this so sleep can wait.
Same here XD
Same here 😂
Same, man.
Me too man
Wake up!
Loved the choice of music in this video whoever chooses the music for the videos is always keeping it fresh with new genres/styles
I love watching your videos with Ronnie building engines. The older I get the more I appreciate my stock low RPM torque, K24 grocery getter. Just the thing for surprising the German sports cars at the stop lights. Watching Ronnie doing one-stop shop builds brings a smile to face every time. Great video!
Needless to say we’re gonna need a road trip with the k-swap rx7 when they’re both sorted
I have an f20c in my Corolla, It revs to 10,600, and makes 192kw atw (257hp). Currently has 110,000km's on the engine and still going strong. I run ITB's. 145mm trumpets in an inclosed box, with a 4.5" feed to an airbox and a 5" feed to the front bar. It runs 13.2:1 comp, forged internals, 1mm oversized valves and custom exhaust manifold into a 3.5" exhaust, dropping down to a 3" rear and 3" straight through muffler. Very quick little car, weighing in at 1050kg.
Timing well is all you need for idle, i can jump off the clutch at the lights with no throttle and the car will idle up and drive.
All this work to put a huge smile on your face with great ITB noises. So worth it
amazing. love to see all the work going into such a project. not the normalized b roll builds. love the twice a week schedule too, i used to watch older longer videos in 2 sessions!
I comment every week that I love to see the MR2 content, but honestly I'll take the S10K build any day too. Keep it up guys!
I love the diverse music choice in this video. Yall never disappoint. 👌
i am indiaaaaaa
EFI hardware sells a device that will let you convert the ITBs to dbw activation. It's really nice. A few people use it on the BEAMS 3SGE engine (formula 3). Driftworks used it on their Lamborghini.
G&G camera work and editing are awesome, just makes the videos easy and enjoyable to watch.
If you guys put a vacuum port on each intake runner, and run a vacuum hose into a common vacuum manifold, you can put an IAC valve on that vacuum manifold to do fine idle control and AC idle boost. Its also a good place to put a MAP sensor. I have typically seen IAT sensor strapped in front of one of the trumpets, probably about the best you can do.
I learned about ITBs a few months ago, and now I am really really excited to see how this is going to drive, to live with, etc.
One of the most elegant modifications one can do to a car, in my opinion.
I live for these build series. I cannot wait to hear that thing rev at 10K
The Miata’s coming along Ben!
If I may make a suggestion, ITBs can still be housed in an airbox/intake manifold with a big air intake tube. It's not gonna restrict the air flow, it may even streamline it. That's how the E46 M3 CSL gets its air intake. Trust me, I'm a mechanical engineering specializing in fluid and thermal sciences.
I've had owned an s2k with a very similar setup. Hands down the most fun car I've ever had. Can't wait to see you smile down the road
Really looking forward to this build, when its done take it on a road trip :D
I'm surprised nobody was talking about the music( I think it's a Sitar). Really neat choice for music, loved it!
Idle control with ITBs is do-able, if your ECU can support an old school ICV. Drill a port in each intake runner, and run them to a vacuum manifold. Then you can attach an ICV to the vacuum manifold. It's also a convenient place for your MAP sensor and brake vacuum line. I had to do that with a street driven ITB motor, ironically.
Awesome! Glad we got to hear her fire up on this episode! Cant wait till the next one!
Beautiful build and I am excited to see where it goes.
My guess is to the dyno from the teaser video.
But then I am guessing racing?
So glad y'all sticked with the A/C. Currently doing something similar to my FC and I neeeeeed A/C in Arizona lol
Me with my E46 M3: *Happy ITB Noises*
I’m 100% all here for replacing the bushings. It’s a street car. Make it comfortable and exactly how you want it to feel you already spend enough time in track cars make a car you’ll enjoy
I'll admit, I wasn't surprised when Andy mentioned the exhaust header after seeing some exhaust suit above the engine bay after the initial fire up.
Man I hope they do another S10K video back to back. This was great not having to wait 2 months for one of these :D
I love your teams Videos and how down to earth they are. Wild builds can be fun, but these "everyman's" builds are really entertaining.
Love what you guys do! I wish more of your videos emphasized the raw sound effects of parts coming together like at 16:16
All those sensor plug clips *chefs kiss*
andy is such cool dude. always great seeing him and his team on the channel.
For the filing of the car you could just put a hold in the bottom of the itb and thread it and run some hose from there to a external idle valve
Clicking in the wiring harness was so satisfying
Thanks for the tease for the week. I really appreciate it 🤯
Keep on keeping 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fantastic content guys! Really loving the longer episodes
Yeah those sphericals will get a bit harsh if you just want a fun street cruiser. If/when you do swap back to rubber I'd recommend origin fab offset upper bushings for front to help get more camber and keep a spherical bushing in the front compliance bushing spot (the big inner one). It's common for the Oem and aftermarket rubber ones to fail after a bit
Should build an air box for the ITB's especially sense it will be street driven. It wont be as cool when you open your hood, but it will allow you to get cold air from out of the engine bay. But i'm sure you know this already.
And stop dirt from immediately ruining the engine
Cirquit Garage wide bodykit would look nice on this S2000.
This series is amazing and agonising. Now the wait begins all over again for the next episode.
Im really enjoying this S2K20 build, can't wait to see you drive the nuts off of it
Editing on this one was top notch! Super enjoyable watch!
the editing and music on this video are seriously on point
Music selection for this one is awesome.
could drill out the runner behind the throttle blades and install a IAC valve in each runner. then program the ECU to operate the duty cycle to maintain the desire rpm, option b drill and plumb a 1/2 line between all the ITBS and connect a single IAC valve to the end of the line
Andy is the man. Really cool to see him work.
Love the build lads, the s2000 is iconic the only thing that gets me is you had the engine out of the car, why didn't you get the engine bay sprayed. All those excellent new shiny parts and a tired rusty-looking engine bay.
People in the miata community just hook up the iacv to a vacuum collector block. You can pretty easily make a blanking plate with fittings in it to connect up the iacv to the block.
The music in this video is just *chef's kiss*
Exciting build thus far Ben and ASM! Looking forward to the next episode :)
Cool music this video
Last video's music was really good! I love the music that I can jam along to the build with XD
I can smell a Big Ben's 2k and Small Ben's evo road trip.
They usually do road trips that play off of eachother, S2K and Evo seems like an odd pair.
you can use a stock IACV!, just create a vacuum block/ manifold running to all 4 runners post throttle bodies and mount the iacv port to that, there are also remote iacv plates you could use...
I can’t wait for the next episode. Thank you!
I LOVE those brackets on the coil overs. All companies should do that. I hate using the cheap tool they give you that ends up coming off and making you hit your hand really hard somewhere.
Also OEM fuel pump for E85? I thought you needed a special pump that won’t breakdown and have the correct vanes for the ethanol?
My coilovers have that hex key clamp style too…enough road use they gum up and have to hammer em around too
Andy is the best !!! Where about in the states is he situated?
oh man i can tell that the next road trip is gonna be with the s2000
I really like Andy's Thursday boots. I'm jealous and I want a pair.
That teaser at the end. WWAAAHHHHHH
Having a tiring day when Gears and Gasoline upload it made my day
If you really want to run idle control there are multiple ways to do it. I run the Toda ISCV kit on my S2000 with ITBs. You'll need to give it a vacuum source, but it works great.
I have been wanting a supercharger for a wee while now... But the more I see ITBs the more I'm feeling an all NA build.
Yes!! On a Wednesday with a new video, thank you!!!
Can I hire this genius of a man to work on my accord genuinely I would sell my kidneys to have him work on my car he has so much knowledge and expertise.
Tuning 10k RPM is going to be a bit of a mission I expect. At that many revs your exhaust manifold is going to make a big impact on its power due to all the exhaust pulses.
I think we can all agree, this car must present a serious level of personal attachment as this car is a pure basket case. But I am sure it will be nice when he is finished.
Cannot wait to hear what this sounds like
shut up
What do you mean? You can hear it right here 20:11
@@HeyItsRyuY Yeah I commented as soon as I opened the video :P
Also this is without a full exhaust system etc.; I am looking forward to sound w/ a full system
Instead of killing the battery cranking it over and over again trying to get sync, pull the plugs out so there's no compression. No reason to have them in when you're not trying to start it and just troubleshooting trigger issues.
Anywho, looking forward to the next episode.
Something seems off. VTC is reporting that you are getting cam advance I am sure.. I wonder if there is something faulty with the VTC sensor. It falls off after 8K, I wonder if it is holding your pre-vtec advance command and sticking rather than dialing back as RPM builds. 3.2s, added compression, and itbs should carry/peak well into the 9s. If it is still falling off after 8, once get the 4-1 header on it and on a 3 inch + exhaust, check to make sure that your VTC values through the sweep are hitting targets. If so, test the voltage on that sensor just to make sure it is operating properly through the rpm sweep.
You know, Tall Ben... "The S10k" implies a 10 liter displacement s2000 based on Honda's logic, and I'm absolutely here for it.
Yup, high revving engines likes the short 4-1 headers instead of the 4-2-1 used for mid range torque
That is a masterpiece can't wait to see it on track very nice
Why didn’t you have the intake set up for their IAC system?
Also, it’s semantics, but it’s an individual runner system and not ITB’s.
But Kinsler definitely does offer IAC for their electronic injection IR manifolds.
DAMNNNN THE ITBS ARE SCREAMING!!!!
When It blows up, play rage your dream
Awesome, you got it fired up! What ended up being the issue?
ASM continues to deliver on these builds.
For AC and cold idle up control, I've seen an idea floating around where a solenoid, probably very similar to a boost control solenoid, is connected between the vacuum distribution block and open filtered air. When the ECU requests more air for idle, it can open the solenoid or increase it's duty cycle, increasing the engine idle by a controlled vacuum leak. Seeing that you're running a Haltech ECU, I don't see why it can't be done for your S2K.
20:10 What kinda header he usin'?! BraBraBraBraBraBra BRAAAAAP! He makes like 1000 throatpower at the tonsils...
I'm really looking forward to the new j35y8 engine I want to put one in my S2000 project car
Andy's sense of humor is unmatched
keeping the AC is what I come for... it makes everything harder, i don't wanna be a simp with no AC
Does K20 have a balance shaft? If you delete the balance shaft is it possible to balance the engine up to 10k? Or does it have a shaft and you keep it? I have a Mazda B2600i and I'm considering deleting the balance shaft. It's a 2.6L I4. I'm installing an Eaton M62 supercharger on it. Should be fun. Toyota Rear axle with Toyota Supra LSD.
Those itb’s are so sick!!!
This engine sounds beautifull!!!
interested to see the results of the dyno tune
Didn’t miss the only fan joke! 👌
9:09 vibe music
Maybe noob question , but what about air filter when running ITB ?
Music in this one is extremely nice
So sick... Can't wait for the next one.
Did you know, when pouring oil, if you put the spout up (vs down) it will not "gurgle" and help prevent spills?
ITS THE MANUAL VIDEO GUY!!!!!!!